From cpignata@cisco.com Sun Dec 2 18:20:34 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pm-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pm-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1256721F896B for ; Sun, 2 Dec 2012 18:20:34 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -110.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-110.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PkLVGu2eGObe for ; Sun, 2 Dec 2012 18:20:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from rcdn-iport-4.cisco.com (rcdn-iport-4.cisco.com [173.37.86.75]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB17621F896A for ; Sun, 2 Dec 2012 18:20:32 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=7672; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1354501233; x=1355710833; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:references:mime-version; bh=ZlsvHx+vPlPWwNHmAIRzca6faIxZ1EfEXHkuQHs+sFQ=; b=W4aYIKw+PYZ+Nx5mDIQgPs31N3uHHVK8qKH8y5xXdAKVqB/UZJTHnj39 B7WmL2IlentC68uwpaw5/T+LGYcmKGA0/Ct8327zkyPMvljLOzdVIq4OO oNjOfph76b5d8NIqoS2xbCYEDA2H6zY7RCiyJMGvqP7ToEjZiCgshQYsK c=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AuULAHoLvFCtJXG8/2dsb2JhbABDAbZuAYkKFmwHghoEAQEBBAEBAWsbAgEZAwECCx0HJwsUBwIIAgQTCBOFLgeCIh4MvgeMQINgYQOSFYUIjyuCcoIh X-IronPort-AV: E=McAfee;i="5400,1158,6914"; a="148576853" Received: from rcdn-core2-1.cisco.com ([173.37.113.188]) by rcdn-iport-4.cisco.com with ESMTP; 03 Dec 2012 02:20:32 +0000 Received: from xhc-rcd-x14.cisco.com (xhc-rcd-x14.cisco.com [173.37.183.88]) by rcdn-core2-1.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id qB32KWJk029393 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL) for ; Mon, 3 Dec 2012 02:20:32 GMT Received: from xmb-aln-x02.cisco.com ([169.254.5.109]) by xhc-rcd-x14.cisco.com ([173.37.183.88]) with mapi id 14.02.0318.001; Sun, 2 Dec 2012 20:20:31 -0600 From: "Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)" To: "pm-dir@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [mpls] MPLS test session protocol Thread-Index: AQHN0PzELmSDjjSueUi1Z4HqXt0YmA== Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2012 02:20:31 +0000 Message-ID: <95067C434CE250468B77282634C96ED322747CE4@xmb-aln-x02.cisco.com> References: <50B4C34A.8070809@cisco.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.21.108.51] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_95067C434CE250468B77282634C96ED322747CE4xmbalnx02ciscoc_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [pm-dir] Fwd: [mpls] MPLS test session protocol X-BeenThere: pm-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Performance Metrics Directorate Discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2012 02:20:34 -0000 --_000_95067C434CE250468B77282634C96ED322747CE4xmbalnx02ciscoc_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable FYI -- see http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-frost-mpls-test-session-00 in s= upport of http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6374 Thanks, -- Carlos. Begin forwarded message: From: Stewart Bryant > Subject: [mpls] MPLS test session protocol Date: November 27, 2012 8:42:34 AM EST To: "mpls@ietf.org" > Reply-To: stbryant@cisco.com MPLS Working group, The authors of draft-frost-mpls-test-session-00 wrote this draft to provide a simple and general G-ACh protocol for the setup and control of test traffic streams over MPLS. Such test streams are required by the Inferred Loss Measurement (ILM) mode specified in RFC 6374, and are useful for other purposes. This draft was presented at IETF 85 and received two comments, from Lou Berger and Greg Mirsky. The authors would like to request feedback from other WG members as to whether this draft should progress in the MPLS WG. To summarize the brief IETF 85 discussion, Greg felt the work was important but proposed using RSVP-TE/LDP for test session signaling. Lou similarly felt that RSVP-TE should be used in IP environments and that static NMS control is sufficient for non-IP MPLS-TP networks. Note that to support Pseudowire we would also need to define and implement = an LDP signalling solution in addition to the RSVP-TE solution proposed by Lou. Further note that an LDP only solution is not an option in MPLS-TP because G-MPLS is the only control plane available for LSPs. In the view of the authors, it is important to have good protocol tools available to support OAM applications over the G-ACh in MPLS-TP networks with elements that do not necessarily support an IP stack. We do not find it convincing that a strictly NMS-based static configuration approach suffices to meet the needs of all such deployments. Also, in our view, even some IP network operators may be reluctant to deploy RSVP-TE between, for example, two adjacent nodes merely to get a packet loss measurement for a connecting link. We'd like to hear your views. Do you think the protocol described in the draft is a useful addition to the MPLS toolset? - Stewart & Dan (draft authors) _______________________________________________ mpls mailing list mpls@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls --_000_95067C434CE250468B77282634C96ED322747CE4xmbalnx02ciscoc_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <904E7E64FF42094A986EE9881EF057BB@cisco.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable FYI -- see http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-frost-mpls-test-session-00 in support of http://= tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6374

Thanks,

-- Carlos.

Begin forwarded message:

From: Stewa= rt Bryant <stbryant@cisco.com&= gt;
Subject: [m= pls] MPLS test session protocol
Date: Novem= ber 27, 2012 8:42:34 AM EST
Reply-To: stbryant@cisco.com

MPLS Working group,

The authors of draft-frost-mpls-test-session-00 wrote this draft to
provide a simple and general G-ACh protocol for the setup and control of test traffic streams over MPLS.  Such test streams are required by the=
Inferred Loss Measurement (ILM) mode specified in RFC 6374, and are
useful for other purposes.

This draft was presented at IETF 85 and received two comments, from Lou
Berger and Greg Mirsky.  The authors would like to request feedback fr= om
other WG members as to whether this draft should progress in the MPLS
WG.

To summarize the brief IETF 85 discussion, Greg felt the work was
important but proposed using RSVP-TE/LDP for test session signaling.
Lou similarly felt that RSVP-TE should be used in IP environments and
that static NMS control is sufficient for non-IP MPLS-TP networks.

Note that to support Pseudowire we would also need to define and implement = an LDP signalling solution in addition to the RSVP-TE
solution proposed by Lou. Further note that an LDP only solution
is not an option in MPLS-TP because G-MPLS is the only control
plane available for LSPs.

In the view of the authors, it is important to have good protocol tools
available to support OAM applications over the G-ACh in MPLS-TP networks with elements that do not necessarily support an IP stack.  We do not<= br> find it convincing that a strictly NMS-based static configuration
approach suffices to meet the needs of all such deployments.

Also, in our view, even some IP network operators may be reluctant to
deploy RSVP-TE between, for example, two adjacent nodes merely to get a
packet loss measurement for a connecting link.

We'd like to hear your views.  Do you think the protocol described in<= br> the draft is a useful addition to the MPLS toolset?

- Stewart & Dan (draft authors)



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--_000_95067C434CE250468B77282634C96ED322747CE4xmbalnx02ciscoc_-- From bclaise@cisco.com Mon Dec 10 16:07:14 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pm-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pm-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12A9F21F86BA for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 16:07:14 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.299 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.299 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.299, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xpQVpmBD12Yt for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 16:07:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from av-tac-bru.cisco.com (weird-brew.cisco.com [144.254.15.118]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6A3D21F844E for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 16:07:05 -0800 (PST) X-TACSUNS: Virus Scanned Received: from strange-brew.cisco.com (localhost.cisco.com [127.0.0.1]) by av-tac-bru.cisco.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id qBB073cY024995; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 01:07:03 +0100 (CET) Received: from [10.60.67.84] (ams-bclaise-8913.cisco.com [10.60.67.84]) by strange-brew.cisco.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id qBB070n1002070; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 01:07:00 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <50C67924.1000403@cisco.com> Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 01:07:00 +0100 From: Benoit Claise User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Thunderbird/17.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pm-dir@ietf.org References: <20121210235533.GA14938@sweet-brew-5.cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <20121210235533.GA14938@sweet-brew-5.cisco.com> X-Forwarded-Message-Id: <20121210235533.GA14938@sweet-brew-5.cisco.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------010005050105080807020204" Cc: Ron Bonica , Alan DeKok Subject: [pm-dir] Fwd: Performance metrics doctors generated email X-BeenThere: pm-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Performance Metrics Directorate Discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 00:07:14 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------010005050105080807020204 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear all, From the last IETF meeting minutes: ACTION Benoit: script to generate a weekly email with drafts containing "performance metric", "6390", etc.. Thanks to Alan Dekok, who runs a similar script for the AAA doctors, I have setup a similar script for the performance metrics directorate. Currently, the scripts checks for IETF internet-drafts that reference the PMOL RFC 6390, as a normative reference. If the script returns nothing, an email with "Performance metrics doctors generated email: nothing this week" will be generated. Otherwise, something such as the attached email will be sent. The part of the script that searches for "performance" and "metric" is not there yet. Regards, Benoit -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Performance metrics doctors generated email Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 00:55:33 +0100 From: Benoit Claise To: bclaise@cisco.com Dear all, This is an automatically generated email. It lists the IETF internet-drafts that reference the PMOL RFC 6390, as a normative reference. Regards, Benoit =========================================================== draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-discard-rle-metrics-04 Active --------------010005050105080807020204 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear all,

From the last IETF meeting minutes:
    ACTION Benoit: script to generate a weekly email with drafts containing "performance metric", "6390", etc..


Thanks to Alan Dekok, who runs a similar script for the AAA doctors, I have setup a similar script for the performance metrics directorate.
Currently, the scripts checks for IETF internet-drafts that reference the PMOL RFC 6390, as a normative reference.

If the script returns nothing, an email with "Performance metrics doctors generated email: nothing this week" will be generated.
Otherwise, something such as the attached email will be sent.

The part of the script that searches for "performance" and "metric" is not there yet.

Regards, Benoit


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Performance metrics doctors generated email
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 00:55:33 +0100
From: Benoit Claise <bclaise@cisco.com>
To: bclaise@cisco.com 


Dear all,

This is an automatically generated email.  It lists the IETF internet-drafts
that reference the PMOL RFC 6390, as a normative reference.

Regards, Benoit

===========================================================


draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-discard-rle-metrics-04 Active


--------------010005050105080807020204-- From acmorton@att.com Mon Dec 10 18:35:32 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pm-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pm-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09F7E21F86B4 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 18:35:32 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -105.141 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-105.141 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_HTML_ONLY=1.457, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bi4JyD3MMCj6 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 18:35:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from nbfkord-smmo04.seg.att.com (nbfkord-smmo04.seg.att.com [209.65.160.86]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5114121F86AD for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 18:35:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from unknown [144.160.20.145] (EHLO mlpd192.enaf.sfdc.sbc.com) by nbfkord-smmo04.seg.att.com(mxl_mta-6.11.0-12) over TLS secured channel with ESMTP id 2fb96c05.0.516233.00-266.1434607.nbfkord-smmo04.seg.att.com (envelope-from ); Tue, 11 Dec 2012 02:35:31 +0000 (UTC) X-MXL-Hash: 50c69bf30575a60f-57af288f9ae3c7da2063e9e7bf5236f60963aa08 Received: from enaf.sfdc.sbc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mlpd192.enaf.sfdc.sbc.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id qBB2ZUtB021824 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 21:35:30 -0500 Received: from sflint01.pst.cso.att.com (sflint01.pst.cso.att.com [144.154.234.228]) by mlpd192.enaf.sfdc.sbc.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id qBB2ZSfH021820 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 21:35:29 -0500 Received: from alpd052.aldc.att.com (alpd052.aldc.att.com [130.8.42.31]) by sflint01.pst.cso.att.com (RSA Interceptor) for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 21:35:09 -0500 Received: from aldc.att.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by alpd052.aldc.att.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id qBB2Z8mh030663 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 21:35:09 -0500 Received: from mailgw1.maillennium.att.com (maillennium.att.com [135.25.114.99]) by alpd052.aldc.att.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id qBB2YtCu030210 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 21:35:02 -0500 Received: from lt-hp1044652.att.com (vpn-130-10-34-173.vpn.west.att.com[130.10.34.173](misconfigured sender)) by maillennium.att.com (mailgw1) with SMTP id <20121211023446gw1006321se>; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 02:34:48 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [130.10.34.173] Message-Id: <7.0.1.0.0.20121210213152.04b685a0@att.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.1.0 Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 21:32:42 -0500 To: Benoit Claise , pm-dir@ietf.org From: Al Morton In-Reply-To: <50C67924.1000403@cisco.com> References: <20121210235533.GA14938@sweet-brew-5.cisco.com> <50C67924.1000403@cisco.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" X-RSA-Inspected: yes X-RSA-Classifications: public X-Spam: [F=0.2000000000; CM=0.500; S=0.200(2010122901)] X-MAIL-FROM: X-SOURCE-IP: [144.160.20.145] X-AnalysisOut: [v=2.0 cv=Gb6ga3rL c=1 sm=0 a=ZRNLZ4dFUbCvG8UMqPvVAA==:17 a] X-AnalysisOut: [=Da7WD-Sv65YA:10 a=i3fBoA7exKUA:10 a=ofMgfj31e3cA:10 a=BLc] X-AnalysisOut: [eEmwcHowA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=zQP7CpKOAAAA:8 a=nOIBOEhG] X-AnalysisOut: [YYQA:10 a=WbAO4uIB5xojmCDSLW8A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=_W_S_] X-AnalysisOut: [7VecoQA:10] Cc: Ron Bonica , Alan DeKok Subject: Re: [pm-dir] Fwd: Performance metrics doctors generated email X-BeenThere: pm-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Performance Metrics Directorate Discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 02:35:32 -0000 Thanks, this should help when you configure as planned.

Al

At 07:07 PM 12/10/2012, Benoit Claise wrote:
Dear all,

From the last IETF meeting minutes:
    ACTION Benoit: script to generate a weekly email with drafts containing "performance metric", "6390", etc..
From bclaise@cisco.com Tue Dec 11 00:21:06 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pm-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pm-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BE3221F86FE for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 00:21:06 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.306 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.306 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.293, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jc2hMfzf9ryy for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 00:21:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from av-tac-bru.cisco.com (weird-brew.cisco.com [144.254.15.118]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A78B621F86FB for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 00:21:05 -0800 (PST) X-TACSUNS: Virus Scanned Received: from strange-brew.cisco.com (localhost.cisco.com [127.0.0.1]) by av-tac-bru.cisco.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id qBB8L13d013029; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 09:21:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from [10.60.67.84] (ams-bclaise-8913.cisco.com [10.60.67.84]) by strange-brew.cisco.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id qBB8KxIR016565; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 09:21:00 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <50C6ECEB.7000106@cisco.com> Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 09:20:59 +0100 From: Benoit Claise User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Thunderbird/17.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Al Morton References: <20121210235533.GA14938@sweet-brew-5.cisco.com> <50C67924.1000403@cisco.com> <7.0.1.0.0.20121210213152.04b685a0@att.com> In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.0.20121210213152.04b685a0@att.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Ron Bonica , pm-dir@ietf.org, Alan DeKok Subject: Re: [pm-dir] Fwd: Performance metrics doctors generated email X-BeenThere: pm-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Performance Metrics Directorate Discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 08:21:06 -0000 Alan DeKok will improve his script. Two new feature requests will be implemented: - the informative references addition - keyword-based addition This will be done in January. Thanks Alan. Regards, Benoit > Thanks, this should help when you configure as planned. > > Al > > At 07:07 PM 12/10/2012, Benoit Claise wrote: >> Dear all, >> >> From the last IETF meeting minutes: >> ACTION Benoit: script to generate a weekly email with drafts >> containing "performance metric", "6390", etc.. From dromasca@avaya.com Tue Dec 11 02:05:24 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pm-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pm-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91EC921F8765 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 02:05:24 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.938 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.938 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.339, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dJ23IrGc7Ohc for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 02:05:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from p-us1-iereast-outbound.us1.avaya.com (p-us1-iereast-outbound.us1.avaya.com [135.11.29.13]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60D2A21F8738 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 02:05:23 -0800 (PST) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhcFAAEvoFCHCzI1/2dsb2JhbABEgmy5KIdBgQiCHgEBAQEDAQEBDyg0CwwEAgEIDQEDBAEBAQoUCQcnCxQJCAIEAQ0FCBqHaAEKniaMZI8ZBIwVhWlhA5wJijaCb4FkFx4 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.80,759,1344225600"; d="scan'208";a="39949182" Received: from unknown (HELO p-us1-erheast.us1.avaya.com) ([135.11.50.53]) by p-us1-iereast-outbound.us1.avaya.com with ESMTP; 11 Dec 2012 04:56:16 -0500 Received: from unknown (HELO DC-US1HCEX4.global.avaya.com) ([135.11.52.35]) by p-us1-erheast-out.us1.avaya.com with ESMTP; 11 Dec 2012 04:41:12 -0500 Received: from AZ-FFEXHC03.global.avaya.com (135.64.58.13) by DC-US1HCEX4.global.avaya.com (135.11.52.35) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.3.83.0; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 05:05:21 -0500 Received: from AZ-FFEXMB04.global.avaya.com ([fe80::6db7:b0af:8480:c126]) by AZ-FFEXHC03.global.avaya.com ([135.64.58.13]) with mapi id 14.02.0318.004; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 05:05:20 -0500 From: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" To: Benoit Claise , Al Morton Thread-Topic: [pm-dir] Fwd: Performance metrics doctors generated email Thread-Index: AQHN1zOBzgeBOJnZKEur0xRye+TI45gTNQEAgABhT4D//8jqcA== Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 10:05:20 +0000 Message-ID: <9904FB1B0159DA42B0B887B7FA8119CA03AA16@AZ-FFEXMB04.global.avaya.com> References: <20121210235533.GA14938@sweet-brew-5.cisco.com> <50C67924.1000403@cisco.com> <7.0.1.0.0.20121210213152.04b685a0@att.com> <50C6ECEB.7000106@cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <50C6ECEB.7000106@cisco.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [135.64.58.46] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: Ron Bonica , "pm-dir@ietf.org" , Alan DeKok Subject: Re: [pm-dir] Fwd: Performance metrics doctors generated email X-BeenThere: pm-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Performance Metrics Directorate Discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 10:05:24 -0000 Hi, I believe that adding informative references is very mandatory, otherwise r= elevant documents risk to be left out.=20 Regards, Dan > -----Original Message----- > From: pm-dir-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:pm-dir-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf > Of Benoit Claise > Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 10:21 AM > To: Al Morton > Cc: Ron Bonica; pm-dir@ietf.org; Alan DeKok > Subject: Re: [pm-dir] Fwd: Performance metrics doctors generated email >=20 > Alan DeKok will improve his script. > Two new feature requests will be implemented: > - the informative references addition > - keyword-based addition >=20 > This will be done in January. Thanks Alan. >=20 > Regards, Benoit > > Thanks, this should help when you configure as planned. > > > > Al > > > > At 07:07 PM 12/10/2012, Benoit Claise wrote: > >> Dear all, > >> > >> From the last IETF meeting minutes: > >> ACTION Benoit: script to generate a weekly email with drafts > >> containing "performance metric", "6390", etc.. >=20 > _______________________________________________ > pm-dir mailing list > pm-dir@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pm-dir From dromasca@avaya.com Tue Dec 11 02:16:49 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pm-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pm-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98ECE21F87F2 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 02:16:49 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.419 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.419 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.180, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BzXAV4s4RRFE for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 02:16:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from de307622-de-outbound.net.avaya.com (de307622-de-outbound.net.avaya.com [198.152.71.100]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6141B21F87EB for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 02:16:47 -0800 (PST) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhcFAKUvoFDGmAcF/2dsb2JhbABEgmy5KIdBgQiCHgEBAQEDAQEBDyg0CwwEAgEIDQQEAQEBChQJBycLFAkIAgQBDQUIGodoAQqeJoxkjxgEjBWFaWEDnAmKNoJvgWQXHg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.80,759,1344225600"; d="scan'208";a="335884575" Received: from unknown (HELO co300216-co-erhwest.avaya.com) ([198.152.7.5]) by de307622-de-outbound.net.avaya.com with ESMTP; 11 Dec 2012 05:10:28 -0500 Received: from dc-us1hcex2.us1.avaya.com (HELO DC-US1HCEX2.global.avaya.com) ([135.11.52.21]) by co300216-co-erhwest-out.avaya.com with ESMTP; 11 Dec 2012 05:14:01 -0500 Received: from AZ-FFEXHC04.global.avaya.com (135.64.58.14) by DC-US1HCEX2.global.avaya.com (135.11.52.21) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.3.106.1; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 05:16:41 -0500 Received: from AZ-FFEXMB04.global.avaya.com ([fe80::6db7:b0af:8480:c126]) by AZ-FFEXHC04.global.avaya.com ([135.64.58.14]) with mapi id 14.02.0318.004; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 05:16:40 -0500 From: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" To: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" , Benoit Claise , Al Morton Thread-Topic: [pm-dir] Fwd: Performance metrics doctors generated email Thread-Index: AQHN1zOBzgeBOJnZKEur0xRye+TI45gTNQEAgABhT4D//8jqcIAAA3+A Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 10:16:39 +0000 Message-ID: <9904FB1B0159DA42B0B887B7FA8119CA03AA46@AZ-FFEXMB04.global.avaya.com> References: <20121210235533.GA14938@sweet-brew-5.cisco.com> <50C67924.1000403@cisco.com> <7.0.1.0.0.20121210213152.04b685a0@att.com> <50C6ECEB.7000106@cisco.com> <9904FB1B0159DA42B0B887B7FA8119CA03AA16@AZ-FFEXMB04.global.avaya.com> In-Reply-To: <9904FB1B0159DA42B0B887B7FA8119CA03AA16@AZ-FFEXMB04.global.avaya.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [135.64.58.46] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: Ron Bonica , "pm-dir@ietf.org" , Alan DeKok Subject: Re: [pm-dir] Fwd: Performance metrics doctors generated email X-BeenThere: pm-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Performance Metrics Directorate Discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 10:16:49 -0000 I meant 'very desirable' - of course :-) > -----Original Message----- > From: pm-dir-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:pm-dir-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf > Of Romascanu, Dan (Dan) > Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 12:05 PM > To: Benoit Claise; Al Morton > Cc: Ron Bonica; pm-dir@ietf.org; Alan DeKok > Subject: Re: [pm-dir] Fwd: Performance metrics doctors generated email >=20 > Hi, >=20 > I believe that adding informative references is very mandatory, > otherwise relevant documents risk to be left out. >=20 > Regards, >=20 > Dan >=20 >=20 >=20 > > -----Original Message----- > > From: pm-dir-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:pm-dir-bounces@ietf.org] On > > Behalf Of Benoit Claise > > Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 10:21 AM > > To: Al Morton > > Cc: Ron Bonica; pm-dir@ietf.org; Alan DeKok > > Subject: Re: [pm-dir] Fwd: Performance metrics doctors generated email > > > > Alan DeKok will improve his script. > > Two new feature requests will be implemented: > > - the informative references addition > > - keyword-based addition > > > > This will be done in January. Thanks Alan. > > > > Regards, Benoit > > > Thanks, this should help when you configure as planned. > > > > > > Al > > > > > > At 07:07 PM 12/10/2012, Benoit Claise wrote: > > >> Dear all, > > >> > > >> From the last IETF meeting minutes: > > >> ACTION Benoit: script to generate a weekly email with drafts > > >> containing "performance metric", "6390", etc.. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > pm-dir mailing list > > pm-dir@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pm-dir > _______________________________________________ > pm-dir mailing list > pm-dir@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pm-dir From bclaise@cisco.com Tue Dec 11 09:50:32 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pm-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pm-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F80B21F8625 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 09:50:32 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.322 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.322 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.276, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BYSk0UMYsFzx for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 09:50:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from av-tac-bru.cisco.com (weird-brew.cisco.com [144.254.15.118]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B71121F860F for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 09:50:29 -0800 (PST) X-TACSUNS: Virus Scanned Received: from strange-brew.cisco.com (localhost.cisco.com [127.0.0.1]) by av-tac-bru.cisco.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id qBBHoQUE019359; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 18:50:27 +0100 (CET) Received: from [10.60.67.84] (ams-bclaise-8913.cisco.com [10.60.67.84]) by strange-brew.cisco.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id qBBHoOmf019951; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 18:50:24 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <50C77259.8070604@cisco.com> Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 18:50:17 +0100 From: Benoit Claise User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Thunderbird/17.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pm-dir@ietf.org References: <20121211174832.GA25320@sweet-brew-5.cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <20121211174832.GA25320@sweet-brew-5.cisco.com> X-Forwarded-Message-Id: <20121211174832.GA25320@sweet-brew-5.cisco.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------090208090807030608020400" Cc: Alan DeKok Subject: [pm-dir] Fwd: Performance metrics doctors generated email X-BeenThere: pm-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Performance Metrics Directorate Discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 17:50:32 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------090208090807030608020400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear all, Thanks to Alan Dekok, who improved the script to include the informative references. Regards, Benoit -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Performance metrics doctors generated email Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 18:48:32 +0100 From: Benoit Claise To: bclaise@cisco.com Dear all, This is an automatically generated email. It lists the IETF internet-drafts that reference the PMOL RFC 6390, as a normative or informative reference. Regards, Benoit =========================================================== Normative References -------------------- draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-discard-rle-metrics-04 Active Informative References ---------------------- draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-burst-gap-discard-08 Active draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-burst-gap-loss-06 Active draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-concsec-03 Active draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-decodability-02 Active draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-delay-12 In IESG processing - ID Tracker state draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-discard-09 Active draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-jb-02 Active draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-loss-conceal-03 Active draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-qoe-03 Active --------------090208090807030608020400 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear all,

Thanks to Alan Dekok, who improved the script to include the informative references.

Regards, Benoit


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Performance metrics doctors generated email
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 18:48:32 +0100
From: Benoit Claise <bclaise@cisco.com>
To: bclaise@cisco.com 


Dear all,

This is an automatically generated email.  It lists the IETF internet-drafts
that reference the PMOL RFC 6390, as a normative or informative reference.

Regards, Benoit

===========================================================

Normative References
--------------------
draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-discard-rle-metrics-04 Active	
    
Informative References
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draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-burst-gap-discard-08   Active	
draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-burst-gap-loss-06      Active	
draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-concsec-03             Active	
draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-decodability-02        Active	
draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-delay-12               In IESG processing - ID Tracker state <RFC Ed Queue>	
draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-discard-09             Active	
draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-jb-02                  Active	
draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-loss-conceal-03        Active	
draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-qoe-03                 Active


--------------090208090807030608020400-- From aland@freeradius.org Tue Dec 11 07:06:06 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pm-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pm-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB3F521F885A for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 07:06:06 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id h2TgDwANt7SG for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 07:06:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from power.freeradius.org (power.freeradius.org [88.190.25.44]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32A7521F8857 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 07:06:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by power.freeradius.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26DB822404D8; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 16:06:03 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at power.freeradius.org Received: from power.freeradius.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (power.freeradius.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hRyJQEawmTcJ; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 16:06:00 +0100 (CET) Received: from Thor-2.local (bas1-ottawa11-1176121028.dsl.bell.ca [70.26.46.196]) by power.freeradius.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id F290B224045A; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 16:05:59 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <50C74BD4.1020906@freeradius.org> Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 10:05:56 -0500 From: Alan DeKok User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Macintosh/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" References: <20121210235533.GA14938@sweet-brew-5.cisco.com> <50C67924.1000403@cisco.com> <7.0.1.0.0.20121210213152.04b685a0@att.com> <50C6ECEB.7000106@cisco.com> <9904FB1B0159DA42B0B887B7FA8119CA03AA16@AZ-FFEXMB04.global.avaya.com> In-Reply-To: <9904FB1B0159DA42B0B887B7FA8119CA03AA16@AZ-FFEXMB04.global.avaya.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 14:23:02 -0800 Cc: Benoit Claise , Ron Bonica , "pm-dir@ietf.org" , Al Morton Subject: Re: [pm-dir] Fwd: Performance metrics doctors generated email X-BeenThere: pm-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Performance Metrics Directorate Discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 15:06:07 -0000 Romascanu, Dan (Dan) wrote: > Hi, > > I believe that adding informative references is very mandatory, otherwise relevant documents risk to be left out. Added: $ ./ietf-tech-report -h ietf-tech-report [-h] [-i] [-n] [-r LIST] [-W EXCLUDE] -h print this message -i include informative references, too -n include normatice references (default) -r LIST comma-separated list of key RFCs -W EXCLUDE comma-separated list of working groups to exclude See the file 'tech.txt' for more configuration The updated code is on github: https://github.com/alandekok/ietf-tech-report Alan DeKok.