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On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 10:06 PM, Mike Bishop <notifications@github.com>
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> Should we mint new scheme(s) that allows direct reference to a resource
> served exclusively over HTTP/QUIC?



I think the answer here is still no for scheme - we don't want 2 different
urls for resources that are supposed to be interchangable (and then the
caching rules are impacted, etc..).

But something like an authenticated SRV is an obvious path to go down
eventually.


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Is there even something like out-of-order STREAM delivery? Because my understanding is that if you want out-of-order you need to preserve message boundaries, which is called message-oriented delivery... 

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<p>Is there even something like out-of-order STREAM delivery? Because my understanding is that if you want out-of-order you need to preserve message boundaries, which is called message-oriented delivery...</p>

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If this is the worst we end up having to wear (not being able to immediately ACK 0-RTT), then everything is peachy.

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<p>If this is the worst we end up having to wear (not being able to immediately ACK 0-RTT), then everything is peachy.</p>

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I haven't worked out how to make this faster to install; so I'm going to abandon this.  Users who have xsltproc can still set USE_XSLT=true in their environment to get the fancy format.

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> WARNING: artwork line too long: '      alarm_duration = max(1.5 * smoothed_rtt, kMinTLPTimeout) << handshake_count;' (82 characters) (at line 261)
WARNING: artwork line too long: '        alarm_duration = max(kMinRTOTimeout, smoothed_rtt + 4 x rttvar);' (72 characters) (at line 261)
WARNING: artwork line too long: '     # TODO: Don't remove packets immediately, since they can be used for' (73 characters) (at line 364)
WARNING: artwork line too long: '           acked_packet.time_sent - kTimeReorderThreshold * smoothed_rtt):' (74 characters) (at line 404)

Build with `USE_XSLT=true` set to see these.

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<p>WARNING: artwork line too long: '      alarm_duration = max(1.5 * smoothed_rtt, kMinTLPTimeout) &lt;&lt; handshake_count;' (82 characters) (at line 261)<br>
WARNING: artwork line too long: '        alarm_duration = max(kMinRTOTimeout, smoothed_rtt + 4 x rttvar);' (72 characters) (at line 261)<br>
WARNING: artwork line too long: '     # TODO: Don't remove packets immediately, since they can be used for' (73 characters) (at line 364)<br>
WARNING: artwork line too long: '           acked_packet.time_sent - kTimeReorderThreshold * smoothed_rtt):' (74 characters) (at line 404)</p>
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While you can imagine doing 1 stream per video frame if designed especial=
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for quic, you can also imagine serving legacy video formats over a single=

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the framing you need - raster formats e.g...

this isn't a huge use case - but it seems that the protocol doesn't need =
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be prescriptive about in-order delivery to the application modulo anythin=
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we might want to say about flow control. (while at the same time it is
clear that the protocol deals in ordered byte streams).

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>  
 An endpoint that receives a RST_STREAM frame (and which has not sent a FIN or a
 RST_STREAM) MUST immediately respond with a RST_STREAM frame, and MUST NOT send
 any more data on the stream.  This endpoint may continue receiving frames for
 the stream on which a RST_STREAM is received.
 
 If this state is reached as a result of sending a RST_STREAM frame, the peer
-that receives the RST_STREAM might have already sent -- or enqueued for sending
--- frames on the stream that cannot be withdrawn.  An endpoint MUST ignore
-frames that it receives on closed streams after it has sent a RST_STREAM frame.
-An endpoint MAY choose to limit the period over which it ignores frames and
-treat frames that arrive after this time as being in error.
+that receives the RST_STREAM frame might have already sent -- or enqueued for
+sending -- frames on the stream that cannot be withdrawn.  An endpoint MUST
+ignore frames that it receives on closed streams after it has sent a RST_STREAM
+frame. An endpoint MAY choose to limit the period over which it ignores frames
+and treat frames that arrive after this time as being in error.

That would be a QUIC_STREAM_DATA_AFTER_TERMINATION error, right? Maybe we should specify that here explicitly.

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<p><b>@marten-seemann</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/254#pullrequestreview-19564416">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt;  
 An endpoint that receives a RST_STREAM frame (and which has not sent a FIN or a
 RST_STREAM) MUST immediately respond with a RST_STREAM frame, and MUST NOT send
 any more data on the stream.  This endpoint may continue receiving frames for
 the stream on which a RST_STREAM is received.
 
 If this state is reached as a result of sending a RST_STREAM frame, the peer
-that receives the RST_STREAM might have already sent -- or enqueued for sending
--- frames on the stream that cannot be withdrawn.  An endpoint MUST ignore
-frames that it receives on closed streams after it has sent a RST_STREAM frame.
-An endpoint MAY choose to limit the period over which it ignores frames and
-treat frames that arrive after this time as being in error.
+that receives the RST_STREAM frame might have already sent -- or enqueued for
+sending -- frames on the stream that cannot be withdrawn.  An endpoint MUST
+ignore frames that it receives on closed streams after it has sent a RST_STREAM
+frame. An endpoint MAY choose to limit the period over which it ignores frames
+and treat frames that arrive after this time as being in error.
</pre>
<p>That would be a QUIC_STREAM_DATA_AFTER_TERMINATION error, right? Maybe we should specify that here explicitly.</p>

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>      version-number = 1*8HEXDIG; hex-encoded QUIC version
 
-When multiple versions are supported, the "v" parameter MAY be repeated multiple
-times in a single Alt-Svc entry.  For example, if a server supported both
-version "Q034" and version 0x00000001, it would specify the following header:
+When multiple versions are supported, the "quic" parameter MAY be repeated
+multiple times in a single Alt-Svc entry.  For example, if a server supported
+both version "Q034" and version 0x00000001, it could specify the following

It's still there primarily because I wanted to be able to show the multiple-entry case.  However, it might make more sense to change that to a draft version and leave the ASCII-like versions out entirely.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/235">draft-ietf-quic-http.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt;      version-number = 1*8HEXDIG; hex-encoded QUIC version
 
-When multiple versions are supported, the &quot;v&quot; parameter MAY be repeated multiple
-times in a single Alt-Svc entry.  For example, if a server supported both
-version &quot;Q034&quot; and version 0x00000001, it would specify the following header:
+When multiple versions are supported, the &quot;quic&quot; parameter MAY be repeated
+multiple times in a single Alt-Svc entry.  For example, if a server supported
+both version &quot;Q034&quot; and version 0x00000001, it could specify the following
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<p>It's still there primarily because I wanted to be able to show the multiple-entry case.  However, it might make more sense to change that to a draft version and leave the ASCII-like versions out entirely.</p>

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>      version-number = 1*8HEXDIG; hex-encoded QUIC version
 
-When multiple versions are supported, the "v" parameter MAY be repeated multiple
-times in a single Alt-Svc entry.  For example, if a server supported both
-version "Q034" and version 0x00000001, it would specify the following header:
+When multiple versions are supported, the "quic" parameter MAY be repeated
+multiple times in a single Alt-Svc entry.  For example, if a server supported
+both version "Q034" and version 0x00000001, it could specify the following

Mm.  Except that the draft versions won't be in the final QUIC RFC, so there won't be any context for that reference once it's eventually published.  Maybe not.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/235">draft-ietf-quic-http.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt;      version-number = 1*8HEXDIG; hex-encoded QUIC version
 
-When multiple versions are supported, the &quot;v&quot; parameter MAY be repeated multiple
-times in a single Alt-Svc entry.  For example, if a server supported both
-version &quot;Q034&quot; and version 0x00000001, it would specify the following header:
+When multiple versions are supported, the &quot;quic&quot; parameter MAY be repeated
+multiple times in a single Alt-Svc entry.  For example, if a server supported
+both version &quot;Q034&quot; and version 0x00000001, it could specify the following
</pre>
<p>Mm.  Except that the draft versions won't be in the final QUIC RFC, so there won't be any context for that reference once it's eventually published.  Maybe not.</p>

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>  
-    Alt-Svc: hq=":443";v="x1";v="cQ034"
+    Alt-Svc: hq=":443";quic=1;quic=51303334

Basically, yes.  I've made that explicit in a9e47f2.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/235">draft-ietf-quic-http.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt;  
-    Alt-Svc: hq=&quot;:443&quot;;v=&quot;x1&quot;;v=&quot;cQ034&quot;
+    Alt-Svc: hq=&quot;:443&quot;;quic=1;quic=51303334
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>      version-number = 1*8HEXDIG; hex-encoded QUIC version
 
-When multiple versions are supported, the "v" parameter MAY be repeated multiple
-times in a single Alt-Svc entry.  For example, if a server supported both
-version "Q034" and version 0x00000001, it would specify the following header:
+When multiple versions are supported, the "quic" parameter MAY be repeated
+multiple times in a single Alt-Svc entry.  For example, if a server supported
+both version "Q034" and version 0x00000001, it could specify the following

We could add that context, or we could add a "note to the RFC Editor" to remove Q034 and the related text on publication.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/235">draft-ietf-quic-http.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt;      version-number = 1*8HEXDIG; hex-encoded QUIC version
 
-When multiple versions are supported, the &quot;v&quot; parameter MAY be repeated multiple
-times in a single Alt-Svc entry.  For example, if a server supported both
-version &quot;Q034&quot; and version 0x00000001, it would specify the following header:
+When multiple versions are supported, the &quot;quic&quot; parameter MAY be repeated
+multiple times in a single Alt-Svc entry.  For example, if a server supported
+both version &quot;Q034&quot; and version 0x00000001, it could specify the following
</pre>
<p>We could add that context, or we could add a "note to the RFC Editor" to remove Q034 and the related text on publication.</p>

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  Branch: refs/heads/v_quic
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>      version-number = 1*8HEXDIG; hex-encoded QUIC version
 
-When multiple versions are supported, the "v" parameter MAY be repeated multiple
-times in a single Alt-Svc entry.  For example, if a server supported both
-version "Q034" and version 0x00000001, it would specify the following header:
+When multiple versions are supported, the "quic" parameter MAY be repeated
+multiple times in a single Alt-Svc entry.  For example, if a server supported
+both version "Q034" and version 0x00000001, it could specify the following

But then we'd still have to give them something to replace it with, and keeping the "how to do multiple" is worthwhile.  I've expanded slightly, to refer to it as the version that would be rendered in ASCII as `Q034`.  Given that we allow pretty free-form experimentation in that region, I don't know that we need to elucidate *why* a server might support an experimental version.

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<p><b>@MikeBishop</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/235">draft-ietf-quic-http.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt;      version-number = 1*8HEXDIG; hex-encoded QUIC version
 
-When multiple versions are supported, the &quot;v&quot; parameter MAY be repeated multiple
-times in a single Alt-Svc entry.  For example, if a server supported both
-version &quot;Q034&quot; and version 0x00000001, it would specify the following header:
+When multiple versions are supported, the &quot;quic&quot; parameter MAY be repeated
+multiple times in a single Alt-Svc entry.  For example, if a server supported
+both version &quot;Q034&quot; and version 0x00000001, it could specify the following
</pre>
<p>But then we'd still have to give them something to replace it with, and keeping the "how to do multiple" is worthwhile.  I've expanded slightly, to refer to it as the version that would be rendered in ASCII as <code>Q034</code>.  Given that we allow pretty free-form experimentation in that region, I don't know that we need to elucidate <em>why</em> a server might support an experimental version.</p>

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We already have different URLs for things that might/might not be interchangeable.  When you use Alt-Svc between an http:// origin and an https:// endpoint, you're declaring that they're either interchangeable or you can properly process the distinction.

I can envision several scenarios where either server or client won't want to carry a full HTTP/TLS/TCP stack simply for bootstrapping, when they already know both peers will support HTTP/QUIC.  Maybe authenticated SRV is the path forward, but it seems like the simplest would be something like:

>    HTTP/QUIC is differentiated from HTTP and HTTPS URIs by using the 'httpq' protocol identifier in place of the 'http' or 'https' protocol identifier. An example URI specifying HTTP/QUIC is `httpq://www.example.com/~smith/home.html`.  Origins which serve the same content over HTTP/QUIC and HTTPS SHOULD provide an Alt-Svc header on the HTTPS endpoint declaring that the resource can be obtained over QUIC as well, and SHOULD NOT reference URIs with the 'httpq' scheme in responses to 'http' or 'https' requests.  Such origins MAY consider 'https' and 'httpq' to be equivalent while processing requests.

Note that I don't expect this to be used in browser-land anytime soon, if ever.  httpq:// would be inaccessible to legacy browsers, and you'd be cutting off a substantial portion of the web from following the link.  However, I think for non-browser scenarios and for testing, there should be a way to explicitly describe a QUIC endpoint.

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<p>We already have different URLs for things that might/might not be interc=
hangeable.  When you use Alt-Svc between an http:// origin and an https:// =
endpoint, you're declaring that they're either interchangeable or you can p=
roperly process the distinction.</p>
<p>I can envision several scenarios where either server or client won't wan=
t to carry a full HTTP/TLS/TCP stack simply for bootstrapping, when they al=
ready know both peers will support HTTP/QUIC.  Maybe authenticated SRV is t=
he path forward, but it seems like the simplest would be something like:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>HTTP/QUIC is differentiated from HTTP and HTTPS URIs by using the 'httpq=
' protocol identifier in place of the 'http' or 'https' protocol identifier=
. An example URI specifying HTTP/QUIC is <code>httpq://www.example.com/~smi=
th/home.html</code>.  Origins which serve the same content over HTTP/QUIC a=
nd HTTPS SHOULD provide an Alt-Svc header on the HTTPS endpoint declaring t=
hat the resource can be obtained over QUIC as well, and SHOULD NOT referenc=
e URIs with the 'httpq' scheme in responses to 'http' or 'https' requests. =
 Such origins MAY consider 'https' and 'httpq' to be equivalent while proce=
ssing requests.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Note that I don't expect this to be used in browser-land anytime soon, i=
f ever.  httpq:// would be inaccessible to legacy browsers, and you'd be cu=
tting off a substantial portion of the web from following the link.  Howeve=
r, I think for non-browser scenarios and for testing, there should be a way=
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Oh, and @LPardue:  RFC 2818 says in Section 2.3:

>  When HTTP/TLS is being run over a TCP/IP connection, the default port   is 443. This does not preclude HTTP/TLS from being run over another   transport. TLS only presumes a reliable connection-oriented data   stream.

RFC 7230 updates this by saying:

>    The "https" URI scheme is hereby defined for the purpose of minting   identifiers according to their association with the hierarchical   namespace governed by a potential HTTP origin server listening to a   given TCP port for TLS-secured connections ([RFC5246]).
>
>   All of the requirements listed above for the "http" scheme are also   requirements for the "https" scheme, except that TCP port 443 is the   default if the port subcomponent is empty or not given....

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<p>Oh, and <a href=3D"https://github.com/LPardue" class=3D"user-mention">=
@LPardue</a>:  RFC 2818 says in Section 2.3:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>When HTTP/TLS is being run over a TCP/IP connection, the default port =
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ransport. TLS only presumes a reliable connection-oriented data   stream.=
</p>
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<blockquote>
<p>The "https" URI scheme is hereby defined for the purpose of minting   =
identifiers according to their association with the hierarchical   namesp=
ace governed by a potential HTTP origin server listening to a   given TCP=
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<p>All of the requirements listed above for the "http" scheme are also   =
requirements for the "https" scheme, except that TCP port 443 is the   de=
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Oh, and also in RFC 7230:

> Although HTTP is independent of the transport protocol, the "http"   scheme is specific to TCP-based services because the name delegation   process depends on TCP for establishing authority.  **An HTTP service   based on some other underlying connection protocol would presumably   be identified using a different URI scheme....**

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<p>Oh, and also in RFC 7230:</p>
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@MikeBishop thanks for these, really interesting food for thought

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<p><a href="https://github.com/MikeBishop" class="user-mention">@MikeBishop</a> thanks for these, really interesting food for thought</p>

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I suppose you could reserve a version for documentation purposes. E.g
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> ------------------------------
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> In draft-ietf-quic-http.md
> <https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/235>:
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> >      version-number =3D 1*8HEXDIG; hex-encoded QUIC version
>
> -When multiple versions are supported, the "v" parameter MAY be repeated =
multiple
> -times in a single Alt-Svc entry.  For example, if a server supported both
> -version "Q034" and version 0x00000001, it would specify the following he=
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> +When multiple versions are supported, the "quic" parameter MAY be repeat=
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> +multiple times in a single Alt-Svc entry.  For example, if a server supp=
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> +both version "Q034" and version 0x00000001, it could specify the followi=
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> But then we'd still have to give them something to replace it with, and
> keeping the "how to do multiple" is worthwhile. I've expanded slightly, to
> refer to it as the version that would be rendered in ASCII as Q034. Given
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I suppose you could reserve a version for documentation purposes. E.g<br>
DEADBEEF<br>
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&gt; In draft-ietf-quic-http.md<br>
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&gt; &gt;      version-number =3D 1*8HEXDIG; hex-encoded QUIC version<br>
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Think about it this way:  The bytestream means there are no boundaries internally **that are known to QUIC**.  If you know enough about the contained object to make sense of fragments, you might reasonably skip over missing pieces.  You might even do something really interesting, like early-sending the `moov` box of an MP4 even if it hasn't been web-optimized to place that region at the beginning of the file.  A client might reasonably read enough of the beginning to get the layout, know what offset to seek to, then ask QUIC whether it can read the byte at that offset.

However, doing something like this requires buffer the entire (potentially very large) object at the transport so that the application can seek as much or as little as it needs.

A more transport-friendly style is something like Jana's previous baby, [uTCP](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QUNT5wGUXw), which allowed the undeliverable-due-to-gaps data to be early-indicated to the application if it supported such things.  However, that still requires that there be enough internal context to make sense of it.  Some things, you can reasonably do that with.  An XML-like structure (HTML) could ignore everything until it finds the first open-tag, then parse until that tag closes or the end of the fragment; whatever pre-rendering it does can then be slotted in once it has the full document up to that point and knows where it fits.  There are efforts to do similar things with fragments of JS, images, etc. I believe.

An implementation could certainly choose to make these fragments available, as uTCP did.  Nothing in the protocol stops it, but I question whether there's enough general value to mandate that an implementation expose it.

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<p>Think about it this way:  The bytestream means there are no boundaries i=
nternally <strong>that are known to QUIC</strong>.  If you know enough abou=
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p over missing pieces.  You might even do something really interesting, lik=
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web-optimized to place that region at the beginning of the file.  A client =
might reasonably read enough of the beginning to get the layout, know what =
offset to seek to, then ask QUIC whether it can read the byte at that offse=
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<p>However, doing something like this requires buffer the entire (potential=
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much or as little as it needs.</p>
<p>A more transport-friendly style is something like Jana's previous baby, =
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There are efforts to do similar things with fragments of JS, images, etc. I=
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<p>An implementation could certainly choose to make these fragments availab=
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Agreed @MikeBishop .  That's why I think we should have wording that requires exposing an API for an in order of sequence of bytes, but neither require that is the only API, nor require that out of order delivery be made available in all implementations.

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>  
 An endpoint that receives a RST_STREAM frame (and which has not sent a FIN or a
 RST_STREAM) MUST immediately respond with a RST_STREAM frame, and MUST NOT send
 any more data on the stream.  This endpoint may continue receiving frames for
 the stream on which a RST_STREAM is received.
 
 If this state is reached as a result of sending a RST_STREAM frame, the peer
-that receives the RST_STREAM might have already sent -- or enqueued for sending
--- frames on the stream that cannot be withdrawn.  An endpoint MUST ignore
-frames that it receives on closed streams after it has sent a RST_STREAM frame.
-An endpoint MAY choose to limit the period over which it ignores frames and
-treat frames that arrive after this time as being in error.
+that receives the RST_STREAM frame might have already sent -- or enqueued for
+sending -- frames on the stream that cannot be withdrawn.  An endpoint MUST
+ignore frames that it receives on closed streams after it has sent a RST_STREAM
+frame. An endpoint MAY choose to limit the period over which it ignores frames
+and treat frames that arrive after this time as being in error.

This isn't new text in this PR.  I'll probably just make a separate change for that.

This paragraph is the source of a lot of issues.  Vague requirements like this is exactly why I would prefer to solve #175.

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<p><b>@martinthomson</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/254">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt;  
 An endpoint that receives a RST_STREAM frame (and which has not sent a FIN or a
 RST_STREAM) MUST immediately respond with a RST_STREAM frame, and MUST NOT send
 any more data on the stream.  This endpoint may continue receiving frames for
 the stream on which a RST_STREAM is received.
 
 If this state is reached as a result of sending a RST_STREAM frame, the peer
-that receives the RST_STREAM might have already sent -- or enqueued for sending
--- frames on the stream that cannot be withdrawn.  An endpoint MUST ignore
-frames that it receives on closed streams after it has sent a RST_STREAM frame.
-An endpoint MAY choose to limit the period over which it ignores frames and
-treat frames that arrive after this time as being in error.
+that receives the RST_STREAM frame might have already sent -- or enqueued for
+sending -- frames on the stream that cannot be withdrawn.  An endpoint MUST
+ignore frames that it receives on closed streams after it has sent a RST_STREAM
+frame. An endpoint MAY choose to limit the period over which it ignores frames
+and treat frames that arrive after this time as being in error.
</pre>
<p>This isn't new text in this PR.  I'll probably just make a separate change for that.</p>
<p>This paragraph is the source of a lot of issues.  Vague requirements like this is exactly why I would prefer to solve <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/175" class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/175" data-id="201719775" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-permission-text="Issue title is private">#175</a>.</p>

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Two points:
(i) I see the potential use cases, but I can easily see them all solved by
using streams as the framing for messages. Of course you'd need some logic
above in the application to figure out how to order across streams, but
I'll reiterate the point that QUIC streams are supposed to be lightweight,
and they are expected to satisfy the need for message framing.
(ii) I like the clarity of having streams be in-order delivery of bytes.
Not requiring it simply means that some implementations will support an
alternate delivery model making it the app developers' problem to figure
out what to do if the QUIC layer underneath doesn't support it.

uTCP solves a problem, hackishly, that TCP bytestreams are the only thing
we've got. Bear in mind that most of the complexity lies above uTCP (which
was so by design), and this basically duplicated much of the ordering and
de-duplication work that happens in TCP underneath. This requires a complex
data structure above the unordered byte-stream. I would not have done this
hack if we had lightweight streams in TCP.

I'd be much happier with having a clean abstraction that supports
out-of-order delivery of bytes if that's what we want, making it a clean
abstraction that apps can rely on. A USTREAM, if you will. The stream
abstraction is not ossified enough that we need to hack it.

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> we should have wording that requires exposing an API for an in order of
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  Branch: refs/heads/master
  Home:   https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts
  Commit: c385f4d313d46264e3683e604079272d6381b571
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c385f4d313d46264e3683e604079272d6381b571
  Author: Marten Seemann <martenseemann@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-01 (Wed, 01 Feb 2017)

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  handle reordered RST_STREAM frames and FIN flags


  Commit: 7f547bc49fe97648f017dac449a713d9a7fe5972
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/7f547bc49fe97648f017dac449a713d9a7fe5972
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  Date:   2017-02-01 (Wed, 01 Feb 2017)

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  allow reading from streams that a RST_STREAM has been received for


  Commit: c0edb3b6fd4ec1616162fec768613c02272076bb
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c0edb3b6fd4ec1616162fec768613c02272076bb
  Author: Marten Seemann <martenseemann@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-01 (Wed, 01 Feb 2017)

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  Revert "allow reading from streams that a RST_STREAM has been received for"

This reverts commit 782263a92e484a1d8036d39e8b2f8da716aac726.


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  Author: Marten Seemann <martenseemann@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-01 (Wed, 01 Feb 2017)

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  minor changes, fix typos


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  Rewrite final offset text

* Define final offset as the offset of the end of stream data
* Describe how the final offset is carried in RST_STREAM and STREAM frames
* Final offset can't change, describe the error to use
* Data can't be sent after the final offset, describe the error to use
* Update the field name in the RST_STREAM frame description
* Reference the relevant text in the closed state in both of the half-closed states


  Commit: 066c6e51692c6a4a1aca6766fbffd3999e35f255
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/066c6e51692c6a4a1aca6766fbffd3999e35f255
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  Date:   2017-02-01 (Wed, 01 Feb 2017)

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  Log Message:
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  Editorial pass after self-review


  Commit: f63f56ddf8ca84f60041da932a6397c42ac70745
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/f63f56ddf8ca84f60041da932a6397c42ac70745
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-02 (Thu, 02 Feb 2017)

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  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #254 from quicwg/mseemann_closing

Text on handling stream close and data that follows it


Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/7515ad7dc644...f63f56ddf8ca
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Merged #254.

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<p>Merged <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/254" class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/254" data-id="204490823" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-permission-text="Issue title is private">#254</a>.</p>

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We discussed this at the interim and the sense (myself excluded), was that adding the header to the AAD was desirable.  That's a relatively small change and I can take that on.

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<p>We discussed this at the interim and the sense (myself excluded), was that adding the header to the AAD was desirable.  That's a relatively small change and I can take that on.</p>

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OK, now this is actually a duplicate of #226.  I'll take that instead.

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<p>OK, now this is actually a duplicate of <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/226" class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/226" data-id="202992299" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-permission-text="Issue title is private">#226</a>.  I'll take that instead.</p>

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We didn't write this down, but it was discussed at the Tokyo interim.  I can take this one on.

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<p>We didn't write this down, but it was discussed at the Tokyo interim.  I can take this one on.</p>

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There are three cases of interest here: the initial handshake packet from a client (if lost retry on a timer), the version negotiation packet (send in response to every packet that arrives with the wrong version number ...maybe limiting it to those that are plausibly an initial handshake packet), and a public reset (I don't know what the rule might be here, but I suspect there is a timer involved as well).

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Currently, we aren't sure how many bits are going to be in initial packets.  When @ekr produces a proposal for the packet headers, I think that this should include a fixed-size slot for the packet number.  That will make this easier to write up.

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I think we merge the changes to keep our repo and CL stack sane. The chairs can call consensus and if there's no consensus, we can always roll back.

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<p>I think we merge the changes to keep our repo and CL stack sane. The chairs can call consensus and if there's no consensus, we can always roll back.</p>

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Yep, I'll press the button so that you can blame me when we realize that don't have consensus.

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  Branch: refs/heads/master
  Home:   https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts
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  Use quic= instead of v=


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  Incorporating feedback on quic= parameter


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  Broaden language to include alternate-host Alt-Svc uses


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  Making origin/alternative clearer


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  Clarifying example versions


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  Merge pull request #235 from quicwg/v_quic

Use quic= instead of v=


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Closed #229 via #235.

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<p>Closed <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/229" class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/229" data-id="203015531" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-permission-text="Issue title is private">#229</a> via <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/235" class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/235" data-id="203269625" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-permission-text="Issue title is private">#235</a>.</p>

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On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 7:11 PM, Mike Bishop <notifications@github.com>
wrote:

> We already have different URLs for things that might/might not be
> interchangeable. When you use Alt-Svc between an http:// origin and an
> https:// endpoint, you're declaring that they're either interchangeable
> or you can properly process the distinction.
>
Alt-Svc does not contemplate scheme or origins - it deals with routing and
protocol. Alt-Svc cannot change something from http:// to https:// (or vice
versa) nor does it imply anything about whether the content of those urls
differs if only the scheme is different.

I would say HSTS does come closer to what you're describing - but not
quite. It does nicely illustrate the problem of determining equivalence
(sometimes they are, sometimes they aren't) and for me is a pretty good
reason to steer clear. Things white and black lists that https everywhere
needs to deal with are another example.

I think quic would be much better off if it could just stick to the https://
train.

what if we added some 'prior knowledge' language here ala h2?

> I can envision several scenarios where either server or client won't want
> to carry a full HTTP/TLS/TCP stack simply for bootstrapping, when they
> already know both peers will support HTTP/QUIC. Maybe authenticated SRV is
> the path forward, but it seems like the simplest would be something like:
>
well, if they don't have a tcp stack, then they don't have to worry about
fallback.. so why not just try quic? I guess you don't know what versions
to try, but they are unlikely to be encoded in the scheme either..


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On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 7:11 PM, Mike Bishop &lt;notifications@github.com&=
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wrote:<br>
<br>
&gt; We already have different URLs for things that might/might not be<br=
>
&gt; interchangeable. When you use Alt-Svc between an http:// origin and =
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&gt; https:// endpoint, you&#39;re declaring that they&#39;re either inte=
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Alt-Svc does not contemplate scheme or origins - it deals with routing an=
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I would say HSTS does come closer to what you&#39;re describing - but not=
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I think quic would be much better off if it could just stick to the https=
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train.<br>
<br>
what if we added some &#39;prior knowledge&#39; language here ala h2?<br>=

<br>
&gt; I can envision several scenarios where either server or client won&#=
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like:<br>
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well, if they don&#39;t have a tcp stack, then they don&#39;t have to wor=
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fallback.. so why not just try quic? I guess you don&#39;t know what vers=
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The text says "This must be set in all packets until negotiated to a different value for a given direction.", but it does not say how or where, it is somehow incomplete (It irritated me first time reading). Just add reference to the subsection that explains that.
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  * Add reference how connId is negotiated.

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    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (5)

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<p>The text says "This must be set in all packets until negotiated to a different value for a given direction.", but it does not say how or where, it is somehow incomplete (It irritated me first time reading). Just add reference to the subsection that explains that.</p>

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<h4>Commit Summary</h4>
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  <li>Add reference how connId is negotiated.</li>
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On 2 Feb 2017 8:02 a.m., "Patrick McManus" wrote:


well, if they don't have a tcp stack, then they don't have to worry about
fallback.. so why not just try quic? I guess you don't know what versions
to try, but they are unlikely to be encoded in the scheme either..


But is that kind of behaviour prohibited by the sections of RFC 7230 that
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I'm thinking about this in terms of clients that don't have tcp support. If
we're really talking about origins that don't have tcp support instead,
then I think a new scheme makes more sense.

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>
> But is that kind of behaviour prohibited by the sections of RFC 7230 that
> Mike quoted?



I tihnk 7230 is defining what http and https schemes mean in terms of
namespaces and default reachability (which goes back to a origin does
indeed need to be able to publish a tcp version in order to use an https
scheme, but it don't require all accesses to happen that way)

This is sort of self evident even ignoring quic, we've already got alt-svc
changing routes and proxies obscuring DNS and addressing, caches which
don't need e2e transport at all , etc.. all of these things get data
identified by the same url via mechanisms that are bootstrapped (sometimes)
outside of the default interpretation..

I don't think a client that doesn't speak tcp is doing anything wrong by
just trying quic on an https url.. A more conservative reading of 7230
might indicate that QUIC for https:// even via alt-svc was non compliant
because it wasn't TCP and I don't think any of us believe that we need to
update 7230 to allow it.


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I&#39;m thinking about this in terms of clients that don&#39;t have tcp sup=
port. If<br>
we&#39;re really talking about origins that don&#39;t have tcp support inst=
ead,<br>
then I think a new scheme makes more sense.<br>
<br>
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&gt;<br>
&gt; But is that kind of behaviour prohibited by the sections of RFC 7230 t=
hat<br>
&gt; Mike quoted?<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
I tihnk 7230 is defining what http and https schemes mean in terms of<br>
namespaces and default reachability (which goes back to a origin does<br>
indeed need to be able to publish a tcp version in order to use an https<br>
scheme, but it don&#39;t require all accesses to happen that way)<br>
<br>
This is sort of self evident even ignoring quic, we&#39;ve already got alt-=
svc<br>
changing routes and proxies obscuring DNS and addressing, caches which<br>
don&#39;t need e2e transport at all , etc.. all of these things get data<br>
identified by the same url via mechanisms that are bootstrapped (sometimes)=
<br>
outside of the default interpretation..<br>
<br>
I don&#39;t think a client that doesn&#39;t speak tcp is doing anything wro=
ng by<br>
just trying quic on an https url.. A more conservative reading of 7230<br>
might indicate that QUIC for https:// even via alt-svc was non compliant<br>
because it wasn&#39;t TCP and I don&#39;t think any of us believe that we n=
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for #252 
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-- Commit Summary --

  * streams are ordered but maybe not delivery
  * address 2 more cases

-- File Changes --

    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (11)

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<h4>Commit Summary</h4>
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  <li>streams are ordered but maybe not delivery</li>
  <li>address 2 more cases</li>
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The PR #257  is meant to be modest in scope; I hope it reads that way. This is fun to think about, but isn't a big deal.

Based on some offline discussions I've had I think I have a better understanding for the different povs here.. to generalize, some people view a protocol definition as both the interaction between the peers and as an abstract api provided to the application.. a separate view (the one I share) is the definition of how two peers interact to exchange some data and semantics. 

So in the former case you've got a protocol that delivers reliable in order byte streams to applications, and in the latter you've got a protocol that reliably exchanges ordered byte ranges (for which one API would sensibly be a reliable in order byte stream with hol issues).

my thought experiment: if a client is interacting with a normal TCP server, but the client is built from some crazy pile of libpcap for reading and raw_sockets for writing directly to the ethernet driver - is the client still implementing TCP? I would say yes - that's the only way to speak with a TCP server.


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<p>Based on some offline discussions I've had I think I have a better under=
standing for the different povs here.. to generalize, some people view a pr=
otocol definition as both the interaction between the peers and as an abstr=
act api provided to the application.. a separate view (the one I share) is =
the definition of how two peers interact to exchange some data and semantic=
s.</p>
<p>So in the former case you've got a protocol that delivers reliable in or=
der byte streams to applications, and in the latter you've got a protocol t=
hat reliably exchanges ordered byte ranges (for which one API would sensibl=
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<p>my thought experiment: if a client is interacting with a normal TCP serv=
er, but the client is built from some crazy pile of libpcap for reading and=
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ill implementing TCP? I would say yes - that's the only way to speak with a=
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Agreed on the first two.

Public reset currently is, and I believe should continue to be, like the version negotiation packet.  Send (at most) one per packet received.  Public resets need to be stateless, and timers add state.

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<p>Agreed on the first two.</p>
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ianswett commented on this pull request.



> @@ -1370,8 +1369,8 @@ abstraction.  Streams can be created either by the client or the server, can
 concurrently send data interleaved with other streams, and can be cancelled.
 QUIC's stream lifetime is modeled closely after HTTP/2's {{?RFC7540}}.  Streams
 are independent of each other in delivery order.  That is, data that is received
-on a stream is delivered in order within that stream, but there is no particular
-delivery order across streams.  Transmit ordering among streams is left to the
+on a stream is ordered within that stream via the frame offset, but there is no particular
+order across streams.  Transmit ordering among streams is left to the
 implementation.  QUIC streams are considered lightweight in that the creation

Not your change, but it seems a bit verbose to talk about how lightweight streams are 3 times in one paragraph.  Maybe we can remove the last sentence("Implementations are therefore advised...")?

> @@ -1612,8 +1611,8 @@ sender or during delivery to the application at the receiver.
 When new data is to be sent on a stream, a sender MUST set the encapsulating
 STREAM frame's offset field to the stream offset of the first byte of this new
 data.  The first byte of data that is sent on a stream has the stream offset 0.
-A receiver MUST ensure that received stream data is delivered to the application
-as an ordered byte-stream.  Data received out of order MUST be buffered for
+A receiver MUST ensure that received stream data creates an ordered
+byte-stream.  Data received out of order may need to be buffered for

I believe the purpose of the MUST was to ensure that if a packet with a stream frame is acked, it's not discarded.  The new wording is somewhat ambiguous to me, though I know what you're aiming for.

Also, can we remove "as long as it is not in violation of the receiver's flow control limits."  That causes a connection close error, and mentioning flow control so briefly isn't that helpful.

> @@ -1370,8 +1369,8 @@ abstraction.  Streams can be created either by the client or the server, can
 concurrently send data interleaved with other streams, and can be cancelled.
 QUIC's stream lifetime is modeled closely after HTTP/2's {{?RFC7540}}.  Streams
 are independent of each other in delivery order.  That is, data that is received
-on a stream is delivered in order within that stream, but there is no particular
-delivery order across streams.  Transmit ordering among streams is left to the
+on a stream is ordered within that stream via the frame offset, but there is no particular
+order across streams.  Transmit ordering among streams is left to the
 implementation.  QUIC streams are considered lightweight in that the creation

Also, we don't mention flow control anywhere in this intro section.  Possibly it should be mentioned?

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<p><b>@ianswett</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/257#pullrequestreview-19829676">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -1370,8 +1369,8 @@ abstraction.  Streams can be created either by the client or the server, can
 concurrently send data interleaved with other streams, and can be cancelled.
 QUIC&#39;s stream lifetime is modeled closely after HTTP/2&#39;s {{?RFC7540}}.  Streams
 are independent of each other in delivery order.  That is, data that is received
-on a stream is delivered in order within that stream, but there is no particular
-delivery order across streams.  Transmit ordering among streams is left to the
+on a stream is ordered within that stream via the frame offset, but there is no particular
+order across streams.  Transmit ordering among streams is left to the
 implementation.  QUIC streams are considered lightweight in that the creation
</pre>
<p>Not your change, but it seems a bit verbose to talk about how lightweight streams are 3 times in one paragraph.  Maybe we can remove the last sentence("Implementations are therefore advised...")?</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/257#pullrequestreview-19829676">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -1612,8 +1611,8 @@ sender or during delivery to the application at the receiver.
 When new data is to be sent on a stream, a sender MUST set the encapsulating
 STREAM frame&#39;s offset field to the stream offset of the first byte of this new
 data.  The first byte of data that is sent on a stream has the stream offset 0.
-A receiver MUST ensure that received stream data is delivered to the application
-as an ordered byte-stream.  Data received out of order MUST be buffered for
+A receiver MUST ensure that received stream data creates an ordered
+byte-stream.  Data received out of order may need to be buffered for
</pre>
<p>I believe the purpose of the MUST was to ensure that if a packet with a stream frame is acked, it's not discarded.  The new wording is somewhat ambiguous to me, though I know what you're aiming for.</p>
<p>Also, can we remove "as long as it is not in violation of the receiver's flow control limits."  That causes a connection close error, and mentioning flow control so briefly isn't that helpful.</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/257#pullrequestreview-19829676">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -1370,8 +1369,8 @@ abstraction.  Streams can be created either by the client or the server, can
 concurrently send data interleaved with other streams, and can be cancelled.
 QUIC&#39;s stream lifetime is modeled closely after HTTP/2&#39;s {{?RFC7540}}.  Streams
 are independent of each other in delivery order.  That is, data that is received
-on a stream is delivered in order within that stream, but there is no particular
-delivery order across streams.  Transmit ordering among streams is left to the
+on a stream is ordered within that stream via the frame offset, but there is no particular
+order across streams.  Transmit ordering among streams is left to the
 implementation.  QUIC streams are considered lightweight in that the creation
</pre>
<p>Also, we don't mention flow control anywhere in this intro section.  Possibly it should be mentioned?</p>

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I think you're right, and I squarely fit in the first camp.

As experience with TCP has shown, you correctly point out that in-order
delivery is not part of the protocol, which is why Minion was able to do
what it did without violating the spec. The biggest problem with Minion
deployment however was that no OS implemented anything but an sequenced
delivery API. If the abstraction was a sequenced delivery one, the API was
therefore built around it. Historically, the API was attempting to mimic
UNIX file I/O, but the lesson here is that the API ended up defining what
was possible with the protocol. The way that uTCP (the kernel part of
Minion) worked around this was by opening a SOCK_STREAM, but setting a
TCP_UNORDERED socket option. This meant that an application could learn via
the socket option whether uTCP was supported or not. Basically, to get
unordered delivery with TCP, uTCP had to change the API.

We don't standardize APIs, but protocols ultimately define mechanisms for
carrying out those imperatives. The only signal we can provide to
implementers that an API function needs to be supported is by ensuring that
the protocol calls it out explicitly. Otherwise, you have a mix of
implementations that support it and those that don't.

Given that the QUIC protocol isn't ossified yet, I'd yet again strongly
argue for separating these two concepts -- ordered delivery vs. unordered
delivery of bytes -- explicitly. Separating them sends a signal to
implementers that a separate API for unordered delivery is useful, and
applications can then reliably  use it. This is important: effectively
changing a MUST to a MAY in a document technically allows for different
implementations to do different things, but in this case that seems like a
bug, not a feature.

Separately, I'm not convinced that we have an active use case yet. The
assumptions I'm operating on are different from those for TCP evolution
because we are anticipating version revisions and protocol changes to be
possible with QUIC in the future. Without an active use case, we're left
with implementations that are unlikely to support unordered delivery, and
I'd push back against having this in v1.


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> The PR #257 <https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/257> is meant to
> be modest in scope; I hope it reads that way. This is fun to think about,
> but isn't a big deal.
>
> Based on some offline discussions I've had I think I have a better
> understanding for the different povs here.. to generalize, some people vi=
ew
> a protocol definition as both the interaction between the peers and as an
> abstract api provided to the application.. a separate view (the one I
> share) is the definition of how two peers interact to exchange some data
> and semantics.
>
> So in the former case you've got a protocol that delivers reliable in
> order byte streams to applications, and in the latter you've got a protoc=
ol
> that reliably exchanges ordered byte ranges (for which one API would
> sensibly be a reliable in order byte stream with hol issues).
>
> my thought experiment: if a client is interacting with a normal TCP
> server, but the client is built from some crazy pile of libpcap for readi=
ng
> and raw_sockets for writing directly to the ethernet driver - is the clie=
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I think you&#39;re right, and I squarely fit in the first camp.<br>
<br>
As experience with TCP has shown, you correctly point out that in-order<br>
delivery is not part of the protocol, which is why Minion was able to do<br>
what it did without violating the spec. The biggest problem with Minion<br>
deployment however was that no OS implemented anything but an sequenced<br>
delivery API. If the abstraction was a sequenced delivery one, the API was<=
br>
therefore built around it. Historically, the API was attempting to mimic<br>
UNIX file I/O, but the lesson here is that the API ended up defining what<b=
r>
was possible with the protocol. The way that uTCP (the kernel part of<br>
Minion) worked around this was by opening a SOCK_STREAM, but setting a<br>
TCP_UNORDERED socket option. This meant that an application could learn via=
<br>
the socket option whether uTCP was supported or not. Basically, to get<br>
unordered delivery with TCP, uTCP had to change the API.<br>
<br>
We don&#39;t standardize APIs, but protocols ultimately define mechanisms f=
or<br>
carrying out those imperatives. The only signal we can provide to<br>
implementers that an API function needs to be supported is by ensuring that=
<br>
the protocol calls it out explicitly. Otherwise, you have a mix of<br>
implementations that support it and those that don&#39;t.<br>
<br>
Given that the QUIC protocol isn&#39;t ossified yet, I&#39;d yet again stro=
ngly<br>
argue for separating these two concepts -- ordered delivery vs. unordered<b=
r>
delivery of bytes -- explicitly. Separating them sends a signal to<br>
implementers that a separate API for unordered delivery is useful, and<br>
applications can then reliably  use it. This is important: effectively<br>
changing a MUST to a MAY in a document technically allows for different<br>
implementations to do different things, but in this case that seems like a<=
br>
bug, not a feature.<br>
<br>
Separately, I&#39;m not convinced that we have an active use case yet. The<=
br>
assumptions I&#39;m operating on are different from those for TCP evolution=
<br>
because we are anticipating version revisions and protocol changes to be<br>
possible with QUIC in the future. Without an active use case, we&#39;re lef=
t<br>
with implementations that are unlikely to support unordered delivery, and<b=
r>
I&#39;d push back against having this in v1.<br>
<br>
<br>
On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 5:53 AM, Patrick McManus &lt;notifications@github.co=
m&gt;<br>
wrote:<br>
<br>
&gt; The PR #257 &lt;https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/257&gt; is =
meant to<br>
&gt; be modest in scope; I hope it reads that way. This is fun to think abo=
ut,<br>
&gt; but isn&#39;t a big deal.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Based on some offline discussions I&#39;ve had I think I have a better=
<br>
&gt; understanding for the different povs here.. to generalize, some people=
 view<br>
&gt; a protocol definition as both the interaction between the peers and as=
 an<br>
&gt; abstract api provided to the application.. a separate view (the one I<=
br>
&gt; share) is the definition of how two peers interact to exchange some da=
ta<br>
&gt; and semantics.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; So in the former case you&#39;ve got a protocol that delivers reliable=
 in<br>
&gt; order byte streams to applications, and in the latter you&#39;ve got a=
 protocol<br>
&gt; that reliably exchanges ordered byte ranges (for which one API would<b=
r>
&gt; sensibly be a reliable in order byte stream with hol issues).<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; my thought experiment: if a client is interacting with a normal TCP<br>
&gt; server, but the client is built from some crazy pile of libpcap for re=
ading<br>
&gt; and raw_sockets for writing directly to the ethernet driver - is the c=
lient<br>
&gt; still implementing TCP? I would say yes - that&#39;s the only way to s=
peak with<br>
&gt; a TCP server.<br>
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On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 10:19 AM, Mike Bishop <notifications@github.com>
wrote:

> Oh, and also in RFC 7230:
>
> Although HTTP is independent of the transport protocol, the "http" sche=
me
> is specific to TCP-based services because the name delegation process
> depends on TCP for establishing authority. *An HTTP service based on so=
me
> other underlying connection protocol would presumably be identified usi=
ng a
> different URI scheme....*
>
> I read that as requiring a different scheme when the name delegation
process was different.  I don't see a different name delegation process a=
s
probably for names served over QUIC (or least I don't see it as required)=
.

If you dipped your toes into the "special use dns names" discussion, you'=
ll
probably also remember that one of reasons TOR wanted .onion was so that
the signal that something should be resolved via TOR could be used within=

the authority section of an HTTPS URL. That really did have a different
name delegation process for names below the .onion TLD, but that
consideration was ignored in favor of being able to pass "normal" (really=

normal-looking) URLs around.

That experience hints to me that our minting a new scheme for this will
just be ignored in the common case, and I don't see a good reason to
generate the potential confusion as a result.

Just my take on it,

Ted




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On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 10:19 AM, Mike Bishop &lt;notifications@github.com=
&gt;<br>
wrote:<br>
<br>
&gt; Oh, and also in RFC 7230:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Although HTTP is independent of the transport protocol, the &quot;ht=
tp&quot; scheme<br>
&gt; is specific to TCP-based services because the name delegation proces=
s<br>
&gt; depends on TCP for establishing authority. *An HTTP service based on=
 some<br>
&gt; other underlying connection protocol would presumably be identified =
using a<br>
&gt; different URI scheme....*<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I read that as requiring a different scheme when the name delegation=
<br>
process was different.  I don&#39;t see a different name delegation proce=
ss as<br>
probably for names served over QUIC (or least I don&#39;t see it as requi=
red).<br>
<br>
If you dipped your toes into the &quot;special use dns names&quot; discus=
sion, you&#39;ll<br>
probably also remember that one of reasons TOR wanted .onion was so that<=
br>
the signal that something should be resolved via TOR could be used within=
<br>
the authority section of an HTTPS URL. That really did have a different<b=
r>
name delegation process for names below the .onion TLD, but that<br>
consideration was ignored in favor of being able to pass &quot;normal&quo=
t; (really<br>
normal-looking) URLs around.<br>
<br>
That experience hints to me that our minting a new scheme for this will<b=
r>
just be ignored in the common case, and I don&#39;t see a good reason to<=
br>
generate the potential confusion as a result.<br>
<br>
Just my take on it,<br>
<br>
Ted<br>
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I'm now leaning towards the fact this is another special case, and special cases are bad unless there's a good reason for them. 

In normal operation, we expect this to not matter, and Marten made some fine arguments about how lack of flow control could cause issues without some careful implementation choices, so I lean towards keeping stream flow control for the crypto stream.  As such, I now also prefer it stay on stream 1, otherwise the window update frame has to change.

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<p>I'm now leaning towards the fact this is another special case, and spe=
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<p>In normal operation, we expect this to not matter, and Marten made som=
e fine arguments about how lack of flow control could cause issues withou=
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low control for the crypto stream.  As such, I now also prefer it stay on=
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Merged #256.

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  Add reference how connId is negotiated.


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Add reference how connection ID is negotiated.


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This was inspired by #257, but it will probably interfere with it.
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  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/258

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  * Split streams intro into smaller pieces, add flow control

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    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (25)

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<p>This was inspired by <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/257" class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/257" data-id="204869736" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-permission-text="Issue title is private">#257</a>, but it will probably interfere with it.</p>

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<h4>Commit Summary</h4>
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  <li>Split streams intro into smaller pieces, add flow control</li>
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> @@ -1370,8 +1369,8 @@ abstraction.  Streams can be created either by the client or the server, can
 concurrently send data interleaved with other streams, and can be cancelled.
 QUIC's stream lifetime is modeled closely after HTTP/2's {{?RFC7540}}.  Streams
 are independent of each other in delivery order.  That is, data that is received
-on a stream is delivered in order within that stream, but there is no particular
-delivery order across streams.  Transmit ordering among streams is left to the
+on a stream is ordered within that stream via the frame offset, but there is no particular
+order across streams.  Transmit ordering among streams is left to the
 implementation.  QUIC streams are considered lightweight in that the creation

I've opened #258 to address your comments.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/257">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -1370,8 +1369,8 @@ abstraction.  Streams can be created either by the client or the server, can
 concurrently send data interleaved with other streams, and can be cancelled.
 QUIC&#39;s stream lifetime is modeled closely after HTTP/2&#39;s {{?RFC7540}}.  Streams
 are independent of each other in delivery order.  That is, data that is received
-on a stream is delivered in order within that stream, but there is no particular
-delivery order across streams.  Transmit ordering among streams is left to the
+on a stream is ordered within that stream via the frame offset, but there is no particular
+order across streams.  Transmit ordering among streams is left to the
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  Branch: refs/heads/finished_in_every_packet
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I had the same concern when I read that text (and a few other bits of similar text, which need to get changed too if we do this).

Personally -- Jana, I hear your concern, but I think forbidding APIs from exposing out-of-order streams is going too far, and isn't enforceable. Just because we don't immediately see huge use cases doesn't mean they'll never emerge. 

What we want is to encourage convergence of APIs on a minimal set of functionality, and I think the proposed language does that; we needn't ban more exotic uses to achieve it. 

Unless we actually go and create an API (which is outside the scope of our charter), we're going to see some variance in capabilities anyway; consider the discussion on sender priorities and how that went.

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<p>I had the same concern when I read that text (and a few other bits of =
similar text, which need to get changed too if we do this).</p>
<p>Personally -- Jana, I hear your concern, but I think forbidding APIs f=
rom exposing out-of-order streams is going too far, and isn't enforceable=
. Just because we don't immediately see huge use cases doesn't mean they'=
ll never emerge.</p>
<p>What we want is to encourage convergence of APIs on a minimal set of f=
unctionality, and I think the proposed language does that; we needn't ban=
 more exotic uses to achieve it.</p>
<p>Unless we actually go and create an API (which is outside the scope of=
 our charter), we're going to see some variance in capabilities anyway; c=
onsider the discussion on sender priorities and how that went.</p>
<p>Just my .02.</p>

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...by sending the Finished in every packet.
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-- Commit Summary --

  * Avoid HOLB induced by a dependency on client Finished

-- File Changes --

    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md (6)

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<p>...by sending the Finished in every packet.</p>

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@martinthomson (too many martins on this repo!) -- 

`notify-consensus` is only a bookkeeping measure to remind us to tell the list that we closed an issue. 

I think the label you're looking for is `editor-ready`, and it should only be applied by the chairs. Mike did the right thing by pinging me on the issue, sorry I missed the notification.

This is all amenable to changes, of course, but let's see if we can all get on the same page first.

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<p><a href=3D"https://github.com/martinthomson" class=3D"user-mention">@m=
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<p><code>notify-consensus</code> is only a bookkeeping measure to remind =
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@mnot, this should do the trick.  See https://circleci.com/gh/quicwg/base-drafts/597 and the newly created [gh-issues branch](https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/tree/gh-issues) to see what this does.  I haven't written any HTML yet, but they are at least being saved.
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-- Commit Summary --

  * Test out saving of issues
  * Use master again

-- File Changes --

    M circle.yml (1)

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<p><a href="https://github.com/mnot" class="user-mention">@mnot</a>, this should do the trick.  See <a href="https://circleci.com/gh/quicwg/base-drafts/597">https://circleci.com/gh/quicwg/base-drafts/597</a> and the newly created <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/tree/gh-issues">gh-issues branch</a> to see what this does.  I haven't written any HTML yet, but they are at least being saved.</p>

<hr>

<h4>You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:</h4>
<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href='https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/261'>https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/261</a></p>

<h4>Commit Summary</h4>
<ul>
  <li>Test out saving of issues</li>
  <li>Use master again</li>
</ul>

<h4>File Changes</h4>
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  <li>
    <strong>M</strong>
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<h4>Patch Links:</h4>
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In the non-conservative case, this seems to me somewhat of an implementation choice. For a client that wants to retrieve https://www.example.org/example.txt:

## Zero knowledge of hqm availability

- Client supports hqm and HTTPS in preference order. Race the hqm and HTTPS connections to the same host:
    - If hqm fails, use the HTTPS connection
       - If the HTTPS connection includes Alt-Svc for hqm on the same host, ignore it. The client already knows that hqm connectivity is not achievable.
       - If the HTTPS connection includes Alt-Svc for hqm on a different host, intelligently decide if its worth setting this up in the background for switch-over (e.g if the host resolves to the same IP, chances are hqm would fail again)
    ii. If hqm succeeds, tear-down the HTTPS connection

- Client supports hqm only. Tries to connect to host using hqm:
    - If hqm fails, tough luck
    - If hqm succeeds, happy days

## Prior knowledge of hqm availability via Alt-Svc
A client that has received Alt-Svc indicating hqm for an alternative that is still fresh:

- Client supports hqm and HTTPS in preference order. Tries to connect to the alternative using hqm:
    - If hqm fails, invoke Alt-Svc fall back (origin or alternates, hqm or HTTPS)
    - If hqm succeeds, happy days

- Client supports hqm only. Tries to connect to the alternative using hqm:
    - If hqm fails, invoke Alt-Svc fall back (origin or alternates, hqm)
    - If hqm succeeds, happy days

## Prior knowledge of hqm availability by other means
I.e. managed networks, whitelists etc

- Client supports hqm and HTTPS in preference order. Tries to connect to the host using hqm:
    - If hqm fails, depend on prior knowledge to determine if the host supports HTTPS (or always try HTTPS fallback)
    - If hqm succeeds, happy days

- Client supports hqm only. Tries to connect to the host using hqm:
    - If hqm fails, tough luck
    - If hqm succeeds, happy days

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<p>In the non-conservative case, this seems to me somewhat of an implementa=
tion choice. For a client that wants to retrieve <a href=3D"https://www.exa=
mple.org/example.txt">https://www.example.org/example.txt</a>:</p>
<h2>Zero knowledge of hqm availability</h2>
<ul>
<li>
<p>Client supports hqm and HTTPS in preference order. Race the hqm and HTTP=
S connections to the same host:</p>
<ul>
<li>If hqm fails, use the HTTPS connection
<ul>
<li>If the HTTPS connection includes Alt-Svc for hqm on the same host, igno=
re it. The client already knows that hqm connectivity is not achievable.</l=
i>
<li>If the HTTPS connection includes Alt-Svc for hqm on a different host, i=
ntelligently decide if its worth setting this up in the background for swit=
ch-over (e.g if the host resolves to the same IP, chances are hqm would fai=
l again)<br>
ii. If hqm succeeds, tear-down the HTTPS connection</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>
<p>Client supports hqm only. Tries to connect to host using hqm:</p>
<ul>
<li>If hqm fails, tough luck</li>
<li>If hqm succeeds, happy days</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<h2>Prior knowledge of hqm availability via Alt-Svc</h2>
<p>A client that has received Alt-Svc indicating hqm for an alternative tha=
t is still fresh:</p>
<ul>
<li>
<p>Client supports hqm and HTTPS in preference order. Tries to connect to t=
he alternative using hqm:</p>
<ul>
<li>If hqm fails, invoke Alt-Svc fall back (origin or alternates, hqm or HT=
TPS)</li>
<li>If hqm succeeds, happy days</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>
<p>Client supports hqm only. Tries to connect to the alternative using hqm:=
</p>
<ul>
<li>If hqm fails, invoke Alt-Svc fall back (origin or alternates, hqm)</li>
<li>If hqm succeeds, happy days</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<h2>Prior knowledge of hqm availability by other means</h2>
<p>I.e. managed networks, whitelists etc</p>
<ul>
<li>
<p>Client supports hqm and HTTPS in preference order. Tries to connect to t=
he host using hqm:</p>
<ul>
<li>If hqm fails, depend on prior knowledge to determine if the host suppor=
ts HTTPS (or always try HTTPS fallback)</li>
<li>If hqm succeeds, happy days</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>
<p>Client supports hqm only. Tries to connect to the host using hqm:</p>
<ul>
<li>If hqm fails, tough luck</li>
<li>If hqm succeeds, happy days</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>

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janaiyengar approved this pull request.

Let's submit this for now, but continue conversation. It'd be nice to remove this dependency on Finished if we can.



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<p>Let's submit this for now, but continue conversation. It'd be nice to remove this dependency on Finished if we can.</p>

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@mcmanus, I'd agree that we don't need to update 7230 to allow QUIC.  The *authoritative* endpoint for an https origin is a TCP port, and Alt-Svc allows that authoritative endpoint to delegate to different endpoints -- other hosts, other ports, other protocols.  But the authoritative endpoint is always TCP to the port given in the URL.  That's why we're able to use the same scheme and avoid all the branching of stuff underneath it; the origin hasn't changed.

But when there's a service in which the authoritative endpoint is over QUIC -- a device-to-device REST API, or a device's configuration page -- then that requires a different way to express it.  I'd be fine with something like https://www.example.com:q443/, except that RFC 2396 restricts the port number to digits only.  (It's a little odd, in retrospect, that 2396 describes things in terms of IP and port, with no notion of ports being specific to their transport.)  @hardie is right that we're not defining a different name-delegation process here.

I'm leary of saying that clients should (or SHOULD, or even MAY) guess that an origin might be available elsewhere without a way to know that.  That's a proposition we rejec

Sure, we could put a checkbox in the UI or a parameter in the config file that says "'https' doesn't mean what you think it means," then couple that with "prior knowledge" language in the spec.  But it just seems *cleaner* to designate a scheme that's semantically equivalent to 'https' except that the ports in the URI are relative to a different transport protocol.

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>authoritative</em> endpoint for an https origin is a TCP port, and Alt-S=
vc allows that authoritative endpoint to delegate to different endpoints =
-- other hosts, other ports, other protocols.  But the authoritative endp=
oint is always TCP to the port given in the URL.  That's why we're able t=
o use the same scheme and avoid all the branching of stuff underneath it;=
 the origin hasn't changed.</p>
<p>But when there's a service in which the authoritative endpoint is over=
 QUIC -- a device-to-device REST API, or a device's configuration page --=
 then that requires a different way to express it.  I'd be fine with some=
thing like <a href=3D"https://www.example.com:q443/">https://www.example.=
com:q443/</a>, except that RFC 2396 restricts the port number to digits o=
nly.  (It's a little odd, in retrospect, that 2396 describes things in te=
rms of IP and port, with no notion of ports being specific to their trans=
port.)  <a href=3D"https://github.com/hardie" class=3D"user-mention">@har=
die</a> is right that we're not defining a different name-delegation proc=
ess here.</p>
<p>I'm leary of saying that clients should (or SHOULD, or even MAY) guess=
 that an origin might be available elsewhere without a way to know that. =
 That's a proposition we rejec</p>
<p>Sure, we could put a checkbox in the UI or a parameter in the config f=
ile that says "'https' doesn't mean what you think it means," then couple=
 that with "prior knowledge" language in the spec.  But it just seems <em=
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tps' except that the ports in the URI are relative to a different transpo=
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  Avoid HOLB induced by a dependency on client Finished

...by sending the Finished in every packet.


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Avoid HOLB induced by a dependency on client Finished


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As @ekr observes, this violates the rules we've agreed to for TLS, the same applies here.

(This was a long and difficult conversation in TLS, we should probably just work out how to make the change.)

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<p>As <a href="https://github.com/ekr" class="user-mention">@ekr</a> observes, this violates the rules we've agreed to for TLS, the same applies here.</p>
<p>(This was a long and difficult conversation in TLS, we should probably just work out how to make the change.)</p>

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This is an issue we briefly discussed in a coffee break in Tokyo, that nobody has written up so far.

We currently don't have a definition of the number of concurrent streams that both peers agree on at every given moment. Chrome and quic-go solve this problem by allowing a higher number of open streams (10% or 10 streams more, whichever is higher, than the advertised limit). This seems to work fine for HTTP, but will probably break down when using many short-lived streams.

### Problem analysis

The main problem here is that it is very difficult for the sender to determine if the receiver considers a stream closed at any given moment. To do so, it would have to keep track of all packets containing stream data for that stream. Only when all of those packets have been ACKed (or retransmissions of those packets, if any packets were lost), it knows that the stream changed its state on the receiver's side.

I think there's a more fundamental problem hidden here: Receiving a FIN should not cause a state transition in the first place. The concurrent stream limit is supposed to protect a receiver from allocating to many resources. Therefore, a stream should only be considered closed once the application finished reading from that stream (which, if it is reading the whole stream data, is only possible after receiving the FIN, but might be an arbitrary amount of time later, if the application is reading slowly).

### Possible solution

There needs to be a way for the receiver to tell the sender that it considers a stream closed. We could introduce a CLOSED_STREAM frame type for that.
A peer would send a CLOSED_STREAM frame only after it closed the stream locally (i.e. only from the *half closed (locally)* state) and after it finished reading from the stream. 
A peer receiving a CLOSED_STREAM can immediately remove the corresponding stream from the list of open streams.


I can work out the details and provide a PR for this, but I'd like to discuss the proposal here first. It might make sense to finish the changes regarding the resetting of streams (related issues: #165 and #171), since this will already significantly change the stream state diagram.

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<p>This is an issue we briefly discussed in a coffee break in Tokyo, that nobody has written up so far.</p>
<p>We currently don't have a definition of the number of concurrent streams that both peers agree on at every given moment. Chrome and quic-go solve this problem by allowing a higher number of open streams (10% or 10 streams more, whichever is higher, than the advertised limit). This seems to work fine for HTTP, but will probably break down when using many short-lived streams.</p>
<h3>Problem analysis</h3>
<p>The main problem here is that it is very difficult for the sender to determine if the receiver considers a stream closed at any given moment. To do so, it would have to keep track of all packets containing stream data for that stream. Only when all of those packets have been ACKed (or retransmissions of those packets, if any packets were lost), it knows that the stream changed its state on the receiver's side.</p>
<p>I think there's a more fundamental problem hidden here: Receiving a FIN should not cause a state transition in the first place. The concurrent stream limit is supposed to protect a receiver from allocating to many resources. Therefore, a stream should only be considered closed once the application finished reading from that stream (which, if it is reading the whole stream data, is only possible after receiving the FIN, but might be an arbitrary amount of time later, if the application is reading slowly).</p>
<h3>Possible solution</h3>
<p>There needs to be a way for the receiver to tell the sender that it considers a stream closed. We could introduce a CLOSED_STREAM frame type for that.<br>
A peer would send a CLOSED_STREAM frame only after it closed the stream locally (i.e. only from the <em>half closed (locally)</em> state) and after it finished reading from the stream.<br>
A peer receiving a CLOSED_STREAM can immediately remove the corresponding stream from the list of open streams.</p>
<p>I can work out the details and provide a PR for this, but I'd like to discuss the proposal here first. It might make sense to finish the changes regarding the resetting of streams (related issues: <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/165" class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/165" data-id="201171466" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-permission-text="Issue title is private">#165</a> and <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/171" class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/171" data-id="201644609" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-permission-text="Issue title is private">#171</a>), since this will already significantly change the stream state diagram.</p>

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> The main problem here is that it is very difficult for the sender to
> determine if the receiver considers a stream closed at any given moment. To
> do so, it would have to keep track of all packets containing stream data
> for that stream. Only when all of those packets have been ACKed (or
> retransmissions of those packets, if any packets were lost), it knows that
> the stream changed its state on the receiver's side.
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So what's the problem?  Keep track of ACKs per stream.

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@Aron-Schats, if that were sufficient, you would also need to track an ACK of RST_STREAM in the case where the other side was already closed when you sent a RST_STREAM.

But that's not the issue @marten-seemann is talking about here.  He is asserting that the critical action on the receiver for releasing a stream is not acknowledgment of the packets, but the analog of opening the flow control window.  If a remote end sends data on a stream, then that data counts against the stream flow control budget until a WINDOW_UPDATE is sent.  However, as soon as the stream closes, that flow control budget is now void and the data only counts against the connection-level budget.

The problem here - if you accept that it is a problem - is that the application consuming that data might not finish consuming that data until some time after the stream is detected as "closed".  Any application-level resources allocated to that stream will still be occupied.  Applications (and application protocols) that require resource commitments on a per-stream basis now have to deal with the possibility that there are an unbounded number of streams they need to handle.

HTTP/2 has the same basic problem for server push streams.  In that case, it's probably worse because you don't have to worry about an acknowledgment before the stream is released.  In h2, the server can PUSH_PROMISE infinite times, and as long as the connection throughput permits it, fulfill every promise.  The only real backpressure in h2 is the TCP receive window.  The connection-level flow control only has an effect if there are bodies on the promised responses.

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<p><a href=3D"https://github.com/Aron-Schats" class=3D"user-mention">@Aro=
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<p>The problem here - if you accept that it is a problem - is that the ap=
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<p>HTTP/2 has the same basic problem for server push streams.  In that ca=
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  Branch: refs/heads/master
  Home:   https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts
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Save issues on gh-issue branch


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ianswett approved this pull request.

Nice, thanks!



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<p><b>@ianswett</b> approved this pull request.</p>

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The amount of state necessary to track streams that have been completely read, but are partially buffered doesn't seem that large compared to the amount of data in the stream, and the data in the stream would continue to consume flow control.

This is a particular problem if both the data takes a long time to consume(ie: a slow backend) and streams are tiny, so the amount of state per stream starts adding up.

This would seem to indicate a type of worst case scenario is HTTP GETs from clients.  However, those streams don't get closed until the server closes it's side of the stream, which presumably wouldn't happen in this case.  I believe the fact that both parties need to close the stream to allow it to be reused solves this in practice.

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<p>The amount of state necessary to track streams that have been completely=
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mount of data in the stream, and the data in the stream would continue to c=
onsume flow control.</p>
<p>This is a particular problem if both the data takes a long time to consu=
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<p>This would seem to indicate a type of worst case scenario is HTTP GETs f=
rom clients.  However, those streams don't get closed until the server clos=
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This is currently pretty badly bitrotten, we'll need to revisit this once we get some of the other work in place.  This is blocked on transport parameters and header changes.

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  Protected packets prior to handshake completion


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  Merge pull request #39 from quicwg/protected_pre

Protected pre-handshake packets


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#120 almost gets there, but it needs more details on the interface.

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<p><a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/120" class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/120" data-id="198673534" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-permission-text="Issue title is private">#120</a> almost gets there, but it needs more details on the interface.</p>

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And define how it interacts with TLS, if at all.

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<p>And define how it interacts with TLS, if at all.</p>

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  Branch: refs/heads/master
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  Rewrite the section on source address tokens for TLS


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  Merge pull request #120 from quicwg/source_address_token

Source address token


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  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Reference WINDOW_UPDATE properly


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  Branch: refs/heads/transport_parameters_mt
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Discussed with @janaiyengar, these are OK to remove (Google can use proprietary codepoints).  Will be addressed by #122 (once I clean it up).

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<p>Discussed with <a href="https://github.com/janaiyengar" class="user-mention">@janaiyengar</a>, these are OK to remove (Google can use proprietary codepoints).  Will be addressed by <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/122" class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/122" data-id="198678499" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-permission-text="Issue title is private">#122</a> (once I clean it up).</p>

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  Branch: refs/heads/transport_parameters_mt
  Home:   https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts
  Commit: 54b749aa530508734e05e20858a2cfa28ee7496e
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  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-07 (Tue, 07 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

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  Branch: refs/heads/transport_parameters_mt
  Home:   https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts
  Commit: bf61054170a4b0c2c2fee3854c9fed825482e25b
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/bf61054170a4b0c2c2fee3854c9fed825482e25b
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-07 (Tue, 07 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Add definition of transport parameters to -transport


  Commit: 13e482a1d6899a2f805fadf96ae83cafc40e85ce
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/13e482a1d6899a2f805fadf96ae83cafc40e85ce
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-07 (Tue, 07 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Define the extension in -tls


  Commit: 9e1da92db771fe5c65619c13ba66a421661908be
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/9e1da92db771fe5c65619c13ba66a421661908be
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  Date:   2017-02-07 (Tue, 07 Feb 2017)

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  Add a stub iana section, fix dead references


  Commit: 5cd6c889ce35d9dd59a26dc56b55c01019dc27ef
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/5cd6c889ce35d9dd59a26dc56b55c01019dc27ef
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-07 (Tue, 07 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Remove COPT, add rule about unknown extensions


  Commit: e1dcab22496d5bf4f0132d5dadcec8e471fc4471
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/e1dcab22496d5bf4f0132d5dadcec8e471fc4471
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-07 (Tue, 07 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Reference WINDOW_UPDATE properly


  Commit: 0f93362b14ebfab7f642b88f968288c40f95b9ca
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/0f93362b14ebfab7f642b88f968288c40f95b9ca
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-07 (Tue, 07 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Remove extra sentence on ignoring unknown parameters


  Commit: 557730025a8e0d29c9c6f5dc89d2c2ae9d588757
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/557730025a8e0d29c9c6f5dc89d2c2ae9d588757
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-07 (Tue, 07 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  editorial


  Commit: 4e55fc562c81ce744540b7e21ad73191ed3b52ff
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/4e55fc562c81ce744540b7e21ad73191ed3b52ff
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-07 (Tue, 07 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Correct reference


  Commit: 7f7bf2d20af5e7d3df90b1d8be90376df0fefb56
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/7f7bf2d20af5e7d3df90b1d8be90376df0fefb56
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-07 (Tue, 07 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Move crypto requirements to head of section


  Commit: fad710b07cd83b2969b1d6fa5033b19098fef073
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/fad710b07cd83b2969b1d6fa5033b19098fef073
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-07 (Tue, 07 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md

  Log Message:
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  Wrap note


  Commit: f8655e6910b8ea2421515c0ed8f00d5866571021
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/f8655e6910b8ea2421515c0ed8f00d5866571021
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-07 (Tue, 07 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Remove QUIC-Crypto reference


  Commit: 40a0d518b0ef50652c5a70689fe62358214cf0a2
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/40a0d518b0ef50652c5a70689fe62358214cf0a2
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-07 (Tue, 07 Feb 2017)

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  Log Message:
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  Transport parameter are available when the handshake completes


  Commit: 0e16cb456de3403e73218de511b1e96068a01931
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/0e16cb456de3403e73218de511b1e96068a01931
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-07 (Tue, 07 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Simplify the section on new parameters


  Commit: b219d0d6267b69bd85f66eb2aa83847b2cb403f1
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/b219d0d6267b69bd85f66eb2aa83847b2cb403f1
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-07 (Tue, 07 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Add IANA considerations


  Commit: b8a310f2f7051b47277697b9b115fda4822e3b24
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/b8a310f2f7051b47277697b9b115fda4822e3b24
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-07 (Tue, 07 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md

  Log Message:
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  Add transport parameters to the handshake interface in TLS


Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/54b749aa5305...b8a310f2f705
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  Branch: refs/heads/transport_parameters_mt
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  Commit: 9c2f2c1a8cb1bb041c02fc0379d99183394acee4
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  Proofread version negotiation and correct errors


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Why don't you use ALTSVC at the proxy?  It's not like proxy setup is a commonplace action.  A new scheme isn't something one does lightly.

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<p>Why don't you use ALTSVC at the proxy?  It's not like proxy setup is a commonplace action.  A new scheme isn't something one does lightly.</p>

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@ianswett, I'm not sure what you mean when you say "partially buffered".  I would caution about saying things like "doesn't seem that large" without knowing precisely what that state is though.  I know that at least in a browser, the state we generate for a response likely far exceeds the size of the bytes transferred.  And I can't think that browsers are special in any way here.

As you say, this isn't a problem for servers responding to GET requests.  At the server, those are strictly limited by the server concurrent stream limit.  The server is never over-committed.  Where it is a problem is at the side that receives the second close.  So clients are more likely to be affected, given that they tend to close first.

It's certainly an argument for keeping the requirement for the "pointless" FIN on server push streams.  At least that way clients can ensure that there is an upper bound on the number of active pushes.

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<p>As you say, this isn't a problem for servers responding to GET requests.=
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<p>It's certainly an argument for keeping the requirement for the "pointles=
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@janaiyengar to verify and merge.

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<p><a href="https://github.com/janaiyengar" class="user-mention">@janaiyengar</a> to verify and merge.</p>

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Since we have #122 and this is bitrotten, closing this.

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  Branch: refs/heads/transport_parameters_mt
  Home:   https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts
  Commit: 72920a7c9633eb1de39989921e3e5cce837b4e8c
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/72920a7c9633eb1de39989921e3e5cce837b4e8c
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-07 (Tue, 07 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

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72920a7  Use hex, add initial registry contents


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  Branch: refs/heads/master
  Home:   https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts
  Commit: a97fff74b366a0057a80f038ff60361da98920a2
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/a97fff74b366a0057a80f038ff60361da98920a2
  Author: Marten Seemann <martenseemann@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-01-13 (Fri, 13 Jan 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  window updates should be based on data consumed, not data received


  Commit: 1e839af1a2661edf47a30d583e1e8137987f5f93
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/1e839af1a2661edf47a30d583e1e8137987f5f93
  Author: Marten Seemann <martenseemann@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-01-14 (Sat, 14 Jan 2017)

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  Log Message:
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  specify error code for flow control violations


  Commit: 3697fe37eb1d9b6892f3c3ddad29d187f76b9d47
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/3697fe37eb1d9b6892f3c3ddad29d187f76b9d47
  Author: Marten Seemann <martenseemann@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-01-14 (Sat, 14 Jan 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  allow sending a WINDOW_UPDATE frame multiple times


  Commit: 7ded7534c44b042c3746f8ce44ac2c667a2153dc
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/7ded7534c44b042c3746f8ce44ac2c667a2153dc
  Author: Marten Seemann <martenseemann@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-01-14 (Sat, 14 Jan 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  correctly describe connection-level flow control


  Commit: a3695178f3315f4740e4c44a4e16e92faf8b9f57
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  Date:   2017-01-16 (Mon, 16 Jan 2017)

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  Log Message:
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  add missing comma


  Commit: c5f104920852ecd0a29cf83e61f70f2444ba7770
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  Date:   2017-01-16 (Mon, 16 Jan 2017)

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  Log Message:
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  improve condition when to ignore WINDOW_UPDATE


  Commit: 446d1bd2e2d1b1bb148b89f06dd449690f41e177
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  Date:   2017-01-16 (Mon, 16 Jan 2017)

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  Log Message:
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  clarify the purpose of sending a WINDOW_UPDATE more than once


  Commit: ec68a1eec5bc15dbf43115fbd122deb0a59610f4
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/ec68a1eec5bc15dbf43115fbd122deb0a59610f4
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-01 (Wed, 01 Feb 2017)

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    M README.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-http.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Merge branch 'master' into connection-flowcontrol


  Commit: 3e7364007e03bd7e3ca538d176f5a1d21a396497
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/3e7364007e03bd7e3ca538d176f5a1d21a396497
  Author: janaiyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-06 (Mon, 06 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #150 from marten-seemann/connection-flowcontrol

improve description of flow control


Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/72cac4e66b30...3e7364007e03
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  Branch: refs/heads/master
  Home:   https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts
  Commit: 7c41ea00b07e8c10fd29e5047f5f614e48b4597b
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/7c41ea00b07e8c10fd29e5047f5f614e48b4597b
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-01-24 (Tue, 24 Jan 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Use the VERSION flag to identify 0-RTT packets

This aligns the transport draft with the tls draft.

The primary reason for using this identification is that there are three types
of keys that are in concurrent use during a 0-RTT handshake: unprotected
(cleartext), 0-RTT and 1-RTT.  Identifying 0-RTT packets this way allows the
server to avoid trial decryption.


  Commit: 223fd75c121fcf3ffcb8eb7312034d617ac1b37b
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/223fd75c121fcf3ffcb8eb7312034d617ac1b37b
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-01-25 (Wed, 25 Jan 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Require both version negotiation AND 1-RTT keys


  Commit: a426fb34882a7e4ac3982d158d2bb4733488fb0d
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/a426fb34882a7e4ac3982d158d2bb4733488fb0d
  Author: janaiyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-06 (Mon, 06 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #207 from quicwg/0rtt_version_bit

Use the VERSION flag to identify 0-RTT packets


Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/3e7364007e03...a426fb34882a
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  Branch: refs/heads/consistent_offset
  Home:   https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts
  Commit: 4835d74450c99d145993418e067abe411e6bfac7
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/4835d74450c99d145993418e067abe411e6bfac7
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2016-11-28 (Mon, 28 Nov 2016)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md

  Log Message:
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  Protected packets prior to handshake completion


  Commit: 6b46c0b9d539115a012dfa7fd62a4c0319edc873
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/6b46c0b9d539115a012dfa7fd62a4c0319edc873
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2016-11-28 (Mon, 28 Nov 2016)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md

  Log Message:
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  Fixup a few gaffes


  Commit: 32dfeab698be86939ad2b7543df54dbc9e1eab8b
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/32dfeab698be86939ad2b7543df54dbc9e1eab8b
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2016-11-28 (Mon, 28 Nov 2016)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md

  Log Message:
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  Reflow


  Commit: efde8733a892775233a15d5f07d028d073d33b43
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/efde8733a892775233a15d5f07d028d073d33b43
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-01-09 (Mon, 09 Jan 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md

  Log Message:
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  Rewrite based on feedback from ekr


  Commit: d80c268f751ab04bbf00e75c8df9d181c3b66bc6
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/d80c268f751ab04bbf00e75c8df9d181c3b66bc6
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-01-11 (Wed, 11 Jan 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md

  Log Message:
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  TLS 1.3 is the minimum acceptable TLS version


  Commit: 8608ac1a626c0aa820eab89ce915216dca327fbd
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/8608ac1a626c0aa820eab89ce915216dca327fbd
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-01-11 (Wed, 11 Jan 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md

  Log Message:
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  Describe peer authentication


  Commit: 5402eb39946d2e6fcd974969dcd7ff7eba44827c
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/5402eb39946d2e6fcd974969dcd7ff7eba44827c
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-01-11 (Wed, 11 Jan 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Rewrite the section on source address tokens for TLS


  Commit: 48cd6b953547b52710dfa4a1607952398a9c4ec4
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/48cd6b953547b52710dfa4a1607952398a9c4ec4
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-01-11 (Wed, 11 Jan 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md

  Log Message:
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  Remove the redundant section from the -tls draft


  Commit: c6eba13ff4de2c480afc41862ffb0a43b8bf910e
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c6eba13ff4de2c480afc41862ffb0a43b8bf910e
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-01-11 (Wed, 11 Jan 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md

  Log Message:
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  Fix dead reference


  Commit: 2351733f31c390940f404027e9ecf2cc3a32db96
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/2351733f31c390940f404027e9ecf2cc3a32db96
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-01-11 (Wed, 11 Jan 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md

  Log Message:
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  Grammatical corrections


  Commit: ff1faa2503e42040d4f95b69a8644523ac684b31
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/ff1faa2503e42040d4f95b69a8644523ac684b31
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-01-11 (Wed, 11 Jan 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md

  Log Message:
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  Another


  Commit: 9657bcce12b8a129d18bbb2cdea730f2a887f1f0
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/9657bcce12b8a129d18bbb2cdea730f2a887f1f0
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-01-12 (Thu, 12 Jan 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md

  Log Message:
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  Remove redundancy


  Commit: a97fff74b366a0057a80f038ff60361da98920a2
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/a97fff74b366a0057a80f038ff60361da98920a2
  Author: Marten Seemann <martenseemann@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-01-13 (Fri, 13 Jan 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  window updates should be based on data consumed, not data received


  Commit: 1e839af1a2661edf47a30d583e1e8137987f5f93
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/1e839af1a2661edf47a30d583e1e8137987f5f93
  Author: Marten Seemann <martenseemann@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-01-14 (Sat, 14 Jan 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  specify error code for flow control violations


  Commit: 3697fe37eb1d9b6892f3c3ddad29d187f76b9d47
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/3697fe37eb1d9b6892f3c3ddad29d187f76b9d47
  Author: Marten Seemann <martenseemann@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-01-14 (Sat, 14 Jan 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  allow sending a WINDOW_UPDATE frame multiple times


  Commit: 7ded7534c44b042c3746f8ce44ac2c667a2153dc
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/7ded7534c44b042c3746f8ce44ac2c667a2153dc
  Author: Marten Seemann <martenseemann@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-01-14 (Sat, 14 Jan 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  correctly describe connection-level flow control


  Commit: a3695178f3315f4740e4c44a4e16e92faf8b9f57
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/a3695178f3315f4740e4c44a4e16e92faf8b9f57
  Author: Marten Seemann <martenseemann@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-01-16 (Mon, 16 Jan 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  add missing comma


  Commit: c5f104920852ecd0a29cf83e61f70f2444ba7770
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c5f104920852ecd0a29cf83e61f70f2444ba7770
  Author: Marten Seemann <martenseemann@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-01-16 (Mon, 16 Jan 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  improve condition when to ignore WINDOW_UPDATE


  Commit: 446d1bd2e2d1b1bb148b89f06dd449690f41e177
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/446d1bd2e2d1b1bb148b89f06dd449690f41e177
  Author: Marten Seemann <martenseemann@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-01-16 (Mon, 16 Jan 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  clarify the purpose of sending a WINDOW_UPDATE more than once


  Commit: b5cff05f12115fbdc0d110525fdc9ee426772b8b
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/b5cff05f12115fbdc0d110525fdc9ee426772b8b
  Author: ianswett <ianswett@users.noreply.github.com>
  Date:   2017-01-19 (Thu, 19 Jan 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Clarify the ack frame section

Clarifies how to populate the STOP WAITING frame and removes inconsistently used double quotes.


  Commit: 01f0441b77de243c5ffd1f14ed0488ee33bd81b2
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/01f0441b77de243c5ffd1f14ed0488ee33bd81b2
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-01-20 (Fri, 20 Jan 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Remove unbalanced double quote


  Commit: 818c9a89fbe76632db2db9cb78f2326461f0b2dc
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/818c9a89fbe76632db2db9cb78f2326461f0b2dc
  Author: Alessandro Ghedini <alessandro@ghedini.me>
  Date:   2017-01-21 (Sat, 21 Jan 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Frame type is already defined, don't repeat


  Commit: 30370d14e419ca61ef3bebd2b9110b50d6919ee6
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/30370d14e419ca61ef3bebd2b9110b50d6919ee6
  Author: Alessandro Ghedini <alessandro@ghedini.me>
  Date:   2017-01-21 (Sat, 21 Jan 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Don't repeat how StreamID len is determined (other fields don't)


  Commit: 8da04f771ef656a5d8416c5c9a176bb2579d45f0
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/8da04f771ef656a5d8416c5c9a176bb2579d45f0
  Author: Alessandro Ghedini <alessandro@ghedini.me>
  Date:   2017-01-21 (Sat, 21 Jan 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md

  Log Message:
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  Fix a bunch of typos


  Commit: 17fcc77431d9e048863e59ed9e458a5d6f724a15
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/17fcc77431d9e048863e59ed9e458a5d6f724a15
  Author: Alessandro Ghedini <alessandro@ghedini.me>
  Date:   2017-01-21 (Sat, 21 Jan 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Use "a RST_STREAM ..." for consistency


  Commit: 8c52cfd9efe956276d44ae7929fa89e128025db3
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/8c52cfd9efe956276d44ae7929fa89e128025db3
  Author: Alessandro Ghedini <alessandro@ghedini.me>
  Date:   2017-01-21 (Sat, 21 Jan 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md

  Log Message:
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  Fix grammer by adding some words


  Commit: 509d3a813e5dcc13f94250b62b9b8659eb33ba11
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/509d3a813e5dcc13f94250b62b9b8659eb33ba11
  Author: Alessandro Ghedini <alessandro@ghedini.me>
  Date:   2017-01-21 (Sat, 21 Jan 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md

  Log Message:
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  Don't repeat subject


  Commit: e1146e48821bc3b02415c78429046a4067469721
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/e1146e48821bc3b02415c78429046a4067469721
  Author: Alessandro Ghedini <alessandro@ghedini.me>
  Date:   2017-01-21 (Sat, 21 Jan 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Fix more typos


  Commit: ea53fa88a8564a000793c63cb48dae006615041c
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/ea53fa88a8564a000793c63cb48dae006615041c
  Author: Alessandro Ghedini <alessandro@ghedini.me>
  Date:   2017-01-21 (Sat, 21 Jan 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Somehow this sentence sounds weird, improve wording


  Commit: e8e6e66a458bf73f8f707c0fa285ebbeea1b2491
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/e8e6e66a458bf73f8f707c0fa285ebbeea1b2491
  Author: Alessandro Ghedini <alessandro@ghedini.me>
  Date:   2017-01-21 (Sat, 21 Jan 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Saying "cumulative" once is enough I reckon


  Commit: 89846118ae85ae5366d273f2e765bb7f021bff59
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/89846118ae85ae5366d273f2e765bb7f021bff59
  Author: Alessandro Ghedini <alessandro@ghedini.me>
  Date:   2017-01-21 (Sat, 21 Jan 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md

  Log Message:
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  Fix pseudo-code indentation


  Commit: 7c41ea00b07e8c10fd29e5047f5f614e48b4597b
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/7c41ea00b07e8c10fd29e5047f5f614e48b4597b
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-01-24 (Tue, 24 Jan 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Use the VERSION flag to identify 0-RTT packets

This aligns the transport draft with the tls draft.

The primary reason for using this identification is that there are three types
of keys that are in concurrent use during a 0-RTT handshake: unprotected
(cleartext), 0-RTT and 1-RTT.  Identifying 0-RTT packets this way allows the
server to avoid trial decryption.


  Commit: 223fd75c121fcf3ffcb8eb7312034d617ac1b37b
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/223fd75c121fcf3ffcb8eb7312034d617ac1b37b
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-01-25 (Wed, 25 Jan 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Require both version negotiation AND 1-RTT keys


  Commit: e3caeaf94da75cf6a3cdd6548aa9094bfcaed4c9
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/e3caeaf94da75cf6a3cdd6548aa9094bfcaed4c9
  Author: Mike Bishop <michbish@microsoft.com>
  Date:   2017-01-25 (Wed, 25 Jan 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-http.md

  Log Message:
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  Use quic= instead of v=


  Commit: 684ca6e6256f082636fe3c8f14bef4fa4df806e7
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/684ca6e6256f082636fe3c8f14bef4fa4df806e7
  Author: Mike Bishop <michbish@microsoft.com>
  Date:   2017-01-26 (Thu, 26 Jan 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-http.md

  Log Message:
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  Incorporating feedback on quic= parameter


  Commit: e1431f8b3730a6da280f4944b26aa6ba9bdceb21
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/e1431f8b3730a6da280f4944b26aa6ba9bdceb21
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-01-31 (Tue, 31 Jan 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #189 from ghedo/misc

Misc. small fixes


  Commit: 8c288c26755037147282aa1fb3e9a7ae27e25383
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/8c288c26755037147282aa1fb3e9a7ae27e25383
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-01-31 (Tue, 31 Jan 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M .travis.yml
    M CONTRIBUTING.md
    M Makefile
    M README.md
    R draft-ietf-quic-http-mapping.md
    A draft-ietf-quic-http.md
    R draft-ietf-quic-loss-detection.md
    A draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md
    R draft-ietf-quic-transport-protocol.md
    A draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Merge branch 'master' into protected_pre


  Commit: 900adf8fb30fdb72584cd114feb64fc5b8201e01
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/900adf8fb30fdb72584cd114feb64fc5b8201e01
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-01-31 (Tue, 31 Jan 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md

  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #138 from quicwg/tls13plus

TLS 1.3 is the minimum acceptable TLS version


  Commit: 3695d359b66816f854434329f1b9133bf7a460fb
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/3695d359b66816f854434329f1b9133bf7a460fb
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-01-31 (Tue, 31 Jan 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M CONTRIBUTING.md
    M Makefile
    M README.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-http.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Merge branch 'master' into client_auth


  Commit: 94d0a16a539970fe1272282162bd9f13443d3c60
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/94d0a16a539970fe1272282162bd9f13443d3c60
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-01-31 (Tue, 31 Jan 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md

  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #140 from quicwg/client_auth

Describe peer authentication


  Commit: ce77aac945042e080fc23b9b5c9344450b403628
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/ce77aac945042e080fc23b9b5c9344450b403628
  Author: Patrick McManus <mcmanus@ducksong.com>
  Date:   2017-01-31 (Tue, 31 Jan 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  clarify connection termination text

This particular sentence always confused me - it read as if it specified than an initiating peer had to send a close message to itself.


  Commit: a6e7d47151aa0dbbb2172602baaeb375df847d14
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/a6e7d47151aa0dbbb2172602baaeb375df847d14
  Author: Mike Bishop <michbish@microsoft.com>
  Date:   2017-01-31 (Tue, 31 Jan 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-http.md

  Log Message:
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  Broaden language to include alternate-host Alt-Svc uses


  Commit: 6b1b10d3eb02a471214dc507d491402318e724a0
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/6b1b10d3eb02a471214dc507d491402318e724a0
  Author: Mike Bishop <michbish@microsoft.com>
  Date:   2017-01-31 (Tue, 31 Jan 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-http.md

  Log Message:
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  Making origin/alternative clearer


  Commit: aae6fb13d0c05fa993e5ca63b41b1be43517bd07
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/aae6fb13d0c05fa993e5ca63b41b1be43517bd07
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-01 (Wed, 01 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #250 from mcmanus/patch-2

clarify connection termination text


  Commit: ec68a1eec5bc15dbf43115fbd122deb0a59610f4
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/ec68a1eec5bc15dbf43115fbd122deb0a59610f4
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-01 (Wed, 01 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M CONTRIBUTING.md
    M README.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-http.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Merge branch 'master' into connection-flowcontrol


  Commit: 7515ad7dc644495bcebe22076c32911bbda77df3
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/7515ad7dc644495bcebe22076c32911bbda77df3
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-01 (Wed, 01 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #180 from quicwg/ianswett-patch-1

Clarify the ack frame section


  Commit: c385f4d313d46264e3683e604079272d6381b571
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c385f4d313d46264e3683e604079272d6381b571
  Author: Marten Seemann <martenseemann@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-01 (Wed, 01 Feb 2017)

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  handle reordered RST_STREAM frames and FIN flags


  Commit: 7f547bc49fe97648f017dac449a713d9a7fe5972
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/7f547bc49fe97648f017dac449a713d9a7fe5972
  Author: Marten Seemann <martenseemann@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-01 (Wed, 01 Feb 2017)

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  allow reading from streams that a RST_STREAM has been received for


  Commit: c0edb3b6fd4ec1616162fec768613c02272076bb
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c0edb3b6fd4ec1616162fec768613c02272076bb
  Author: Marten Seemann <martenseemann@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-01 (Wed, 01 Feb 2017)

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  Revert "allow reading from streams that a RST_STREAM has been received for"

This reverts commit 782263a92e484a1d8036d39e8b2f8da716aac726.


  Commit: ff1578ca443168d47d7be97f598466f3f17cb4de
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/ff1578ca443168d47d7be97f598466f3f17cb4de
  Author: Marten Seemann <martenseemann@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-01 (Wed, 01 Feb 2017)

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  Log Message:
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  minor changes, fix typos


  Commit: 8c8e5ec8868b5f73ecd82d3f647155466ec22434
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/8c8e5ec8868b5f73ecd82d3f647155466ec22434
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-01 (Wed, 01 Feb 2017)

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  Rewrite final offset text

* Define final offset as the offset of the end of stream data
* Describe how the final offset is carried in RST_STREAM and STREAM frames
* Final offset can't change, describe the error to use
* Data can't be sent after the final offset, describe the error to use
* Update the field name in the RST_STREAM frame description
* Reference the relevant text in the closed state in both of the half-closed states


  Commit: 066c6e51692c6a4a1aca6766fbffd3999e35f255
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/066c6e51692c6a4a1aca6766fbffd3999e35f255
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-01 (Wed, 01 Feb 2017)

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  Log Message:
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  Editorial pass after self-review


  Commit: a9e47f2b4b83adbbdbe434b103c307a99a53ab96
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/a9e47f2b4b83adbbdbe434b103c307a99a53ab96
  Author: Mike Bishop <michbish@microsoft.com>
  Date:   2017-02-01 (Wed, 01 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Clarifying example versions


  Commit: f63f56ddf8ca84f60041da932a6397c42ac70745
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/f63f56ddf8ca84f60041da932a6397c42ac70745
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-02 (Thu, 02 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Merge pull request #254 from quicwg/mseemann_closing

Text on handling stream close and data that follows it


  Commit: 6b9bbc6205d2a252eef4b6d1fab5066f628978cb
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/6b9bbc6205d2a252eef4b6d1fab5066f628978cb
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-02 (Thu, 02 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Merge pull request #235 from quicwg/v_quic

Use quic= instead of v=


  Commit: 48b3f4591e46817cdace3558c2963c539aae00a1
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/48b3f4591e46817cdace3558c2963c539aae00a1
  Author: Dragana Damjanovic <dragana.damjano@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-02 (Thu, 02 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Add reference how connId is negotiated.


  Commit: 8bff0020323072d1e3cccbe08f8eef03e627624b
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/8bff0020323072d1e3cccbe08f8eef03e627624b
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-03 (Fri, 03 Feb 2017)

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  Merge pull request #256 from ddragana/ver1

Add reference how connection ID is negotiated.


  Commit: 319df0e66dd447846ac4796e2d65e2ff46fee0ed
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/319df0e66dd447846ac4796e2d65e2ff46fee0ed
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-03 (Fri, 03 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Avoid HOLB induced by a dependency on client Finished

...by sending the Finished in every packet.


  Commit: 486728eef7196e1642cb49434ea15d26f53c72f7
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/486728eef7196e1642cb49434ea15d26f53c72f7
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-03 (Fri, 03 Feb 2017)

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  Commit: 77e695b028c0aab751c717ed1cf0b9d936c9366c
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/77e695b028c0aab751c717ed1cf0b9d936c9366c
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-03 (Fri, 03 Feb 2017)

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  Use master again


  Commit: 7f7b58b548fc54bb65a47152be8b187112ea4e86
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/7f7b58b548fc54bb65a47152be8b187112ea4e86
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-04 (Sat, 04 Feb 2017)

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  Merge pull request #260 from quicwg/finished_in_every_packet

Avoid HOLB induced by a dependency on client Finished


  Commit: 42ab2c2001813939fd8091523047e0a79c96f51e
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/42ab2c2001813939fd8091523047e0a79c96f51e
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-06 (Mon, 06 Feb 2017)

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  Merge pull request #261 from quicwg/save_issues

Save issues on gh-issue branch


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      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/ef1ac73ed7c506b1b4d0bfdd01c3d1e56e4550f3
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-07 (Tue, 07 Feb 2017)

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  Merge pull request #39 from quicwg/protected_pre

Protected pre-handshake packets


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  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-07 (Tue, 07 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Merge pull request #120 from quicwg/source_address_token

Source address token


  Commit: 3e7364007e03bd7e3ca538d176f5a1d21a396497
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/3e7364007e03bd7e3ca538d176f5a1d21a396497
  Author: janaiyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-06 (Mon, 06 Feb 2017)

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  Merge pull request #150 from marten-seemann/connection-flowcontrol

improve description of flow control


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      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/a426fb34882a7e4ac3982d158d2bb4733488fb0d
  Author: janaiyengar <jri@google.com>
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  Merge pull request #207 from quicwg/0rtt_version_bit

Use the VERSION flag to identify 0-RTT packets


  Commit: 761038d5f4fd47ba5c71287a01c90d8858760e9b
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/761038d5f4fd47ba5c71287a01c90d8858760e9b
  Author: janaiyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-06 (Mon, 06 Feb 2017)

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  Merge branch 'master' into consistent_offset


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761038d  Merge branch 'master' into consistent_offset


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  Branch: refs/heads/master
  Home:   https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts
  Commit: c78460a2a56fea8b7aa0fc26ccb614a0c104acad
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c78460a2a56fea8b7aa0fc26ccb614a0c104acad
  Author: Mike Bishop <michbish@microsoft.com>
  Date:   2017-01-30 (Mon, 30 Jan 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Put Error Code at a consistent offset


  Commit: 761038d5f4fd47ba5c71287a01c90d8858760e9b
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  Author: janaiyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-06 (Mon, 06 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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    M draft-ietf-quic-http.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Merge branch 'master' into consistent_offset


  Commit: 617b0121e3a950103a98c2f067f96a8e0c4bc19a
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  Date:   2017-02-06 (Mon, 06 Feb 2017)

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  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #249 from quicwg/consistent_offset

Error Codes at a consistent offset


Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/a426fb34882a...617b0121e3a9
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Yup, much clearer. Thanks!

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<p>Yup, much clearer. Thanks!</p>

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Merged #251.

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Thanks for teasing that spaghetti apart.

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<p>Thanks for teasing that spaghetti apart.</p>

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  clarify 5.2.2 frame type enumerations

I've always found 5.2.2's use of 1fdoooss and 01nullmm more confusing than helpful when trying to figure out what the frame type enumerations are. They are well defined later on in the STREAM and ACK frame definitions, but in the general frame type section it reads a bit unclear to me. This PR just enumerates the type ranges of each frame type and forgoes the bit level definitions.


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clarify 5.2.2 frame type enumerations


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Split streams intro into smaller pieces, add flow control


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  Branch: refs/heads/transport_parameters_mt
  Home:   https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts
  Commit: c3d7e70e4c61215f747ffebacd849359de538546
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c3d7e70e4c61215f747ffebacd849359de538546
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-07 (Tue, 07 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
  -----------
  Transport parameters during 0-RTT are either remembered or defaults

This changes the definition for transport parameters from "MUST remember"
as I originally wrote up, to the frankly insane consensus position from
the Tokyo interim.

Closes #126



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@mnot, support for doing what?

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<p><a href="https://github.com/mnot" class="user-mention">@mnot</a>, support for doing what?</p>

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@janaiyengar, I think that this is basically there.  I had to pick some defaults for transport parameters in order to deal with the conclusion to #126.  I think that's a terrible decision, but I'm clearly in the rough.  I picked very conservative defaults (gmail-level concurrency, yay) so that constrained servers don't get too badly screwed by this decision.

I moved the transport-requirements up and scrubbed it a little.  As a result this also fixes #9.

This is now getting too big - at the point that this starts fixing multiple issues, I think that we have to either commit to fixing niggles in follow-up changes, or abandon all the work.  I'd rather go with the former if at all possible.

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<p><a href=3D"https://github.com/janaiyengar" class=3D"user-mention">@janai=
yengar</a>, I think that this is basically there.  I had to pick some defau=
lts for transport parameters in order to deal with the conclusion to <a hre=
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rible decision, but I'm clearly in the rough.  I picked very conservative d=
efaults (gmail-level concurrency, yay) so that constrained servers don't ge=
t too badly screwed by this decision.</p>
<p>I moved the transport-requirements up and scrubbed it a little.  As a re=
sult this also fixes <a href=3D"https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issue=
s/9" class=3D"issue-link js-issue-link" data-url=3D"https://github.com/quic=
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<p>This is now getting too big - at the point that this starts fixing multi=
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ow-up changes, or abandon all the work.  I'd rather go with the former if a=
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To be clear, I *think* that this means that we will fix the crypto to the QUIC version (each QUIC version defines exactly one cryptographic handshake protocol), but that discussion was such a mess that I'm not sure that this just personal bias or not.

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When I say partially buffered, I'm thinking of streams that have all their data delivered, but the thing consuming that data has not finished consuming it.  In the case of servers, that's a slow backend.

To focus on the client side, this would specifically be a problem for streams which are opened by the server, and are never truly open on the client side, correct?  But the client needs to send a "pointless" FIN to properly close it's side? 

If so, I think we're ok because one of two cases is always true:
 1) Locally initiated: Solution is to not open more streams.
 2) Remotely initiated: Don't send a FIN until you're willing to deal with more streams.

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<p>When I say partially buffered, I'm thinking of streams that have all the=
ir data delivered, but the thing consuming that data has not finished consu=
ming it.  In the case of servers, that's a slow backend.</p>
<p>To focus on the client side, this would specifically be a problem for st=
reams which are opened by the server, and are never truly open on the clien=
t side, correct?  But the client needs to send a "pointless" FIN to properl=
y close it's side?</p>
<p>If so, I think we're ok because one of two cases is always true:</p>
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<li>Locally initiated: Solution is to not open more streams.</li>
<li>Remotely initiated: Don't send a FIN until you're willing to deal with =
more streams.</li>
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On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 8:12 PM, Martin Thomson <notifications@github.com>
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> Why don't you use ALTSVC at the proxy? It's not like proxy setup is a
> commonplace action. A new scheme isn't something one does lightly.
>
> (Perhaps I used scheme in the wrong way?) We have support for "proxy",
"socks", "socks5" proxy schemes, so adding "quic" was quite straightforward
and is not user visible (though it is visible in the pac file, of course).
In any case, it's not clear to me that Alt-Svc applies to proxies. As I
read the spec, Alt-Svc defines a mechanism for an origin to specify a
different server. I don't think of a proxy as an origin, though I guess one
could? I'd be curious to hear more about this! That being said, in the
context of proxies it seems desirable for users to be able to deploy a QUIC
proxy without needing to also deploy an https proxy.


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  Branch: refs/heads/master
  Home:   https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts
  Commit: c6661243a3834fb0642fed2e71cd5241d01ff8db
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  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md

  Log Message:
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  Move references to informational references (#190)

* Move references to informational references

Moves references to informational references, clarifies that SRTT and RTTVar are computed based on an RFC, and adds todos for the congestion control section for anything formerly in the references section.

* Fix informative references (#218)

* This should fix your build errors

* Fix the TLP reference as well



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Adding unidirectional streams to the protocol seems like something we could=
 consider, but removing bidirectional streams seems a bit rash. Bidirection=
al streams are a protocol mechanism provided by any number of different tra=
nsports (TCP, SCTP, SST, etc) and have a long history of deployment success=
. Bidirectional streams provide an automatic mechanism for marrying a reque=
st and response together. Without this, applications (or the transport) wil=
l need some additional mechanism to associate requests with response. Since=
 we have no experience with QUIC or HTTP/2 over QUIC using only unidirectio=
nal streams, I fear that there are unexpolored dark corners which we will o=
nly discover once we try to start using them. Open stream limits seem like =
one such corner. Currently with QUIC, each endpoint can specify the total n=
umber of open streams that the peer is allowed to create. If both sides set=
 a limit of, say, 10 streams then this allows the client to issue 10 reques=
ts and for the server to provide 10 response while at the same time, it all=
ows the server to push 10 additional responses. If all streams were unidire=
ctional, you might imagine and a client issuing a single request and the se=
rver responding with the response + 9 pushes, hence exhausting the open str=
eam limit. If the client opened another request, the server would not be ab=
le to open a stream to respond. Now, you could imagine that we could change=
 the way the stream limits apply so that "response streams" don't count in =
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<p>Adding unidirectional streams to the protocol seems like something we co=
uld consider, but removing bidirectional streams seems a bit rash. Bidirect=
ional streams are a protocol mechanism provided by any number of different =
transports (TCP, SCTP, SST, etc) and have a long history of deployment succ=
ess. Bidirectional streams provide an automatic mechanism for marrying a re=
quest and response together. Without this, applications (or the transport) =
will need some additional mechanism to associate requests with response. Si=
nce we have no experience with QUIC or HTTP/2 over QUIC using only unidirec=
tional streams, I fear that there are unexpolored dark corners which we wil=
l only discover once we try to start using them. Open stream limits seem li=
ke one such corner. Currently with QUIC, each endpoint can specify the tota=
l number of open streams that the peer is allowed to create. If both sides =
set a limit of, say, 10 streams then this allows the client to issue 10 req=
uests and for the server to provide 10 response while at the same time, it =
allows the server to push 10 additional responses. If all streams were unid=
irectional, you might imagine and a client issuing a single request and the=
 server responding with the response + 9 pushes, hence exhausting the open =
stream limit. If the client opened another request, the server would not be=
 able to open a stream to respond. Now, you could imagine that we could cha=
nge the way the stream limits apply so that "response streams" don't count =
in some way, but that sounds treacherous.</p>

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  Branch: refs/heads/ianswett-patch-3
  Home:   https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts
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Add details about handshake retransmissions for issue #169 
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  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/266

-- Commit Summary --

  * Add handshake retransmissions

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    M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md (126)

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<p>Add details about handshake retransmissions for issue <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/169" class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/169" data-id="201369214" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-permission-text="Issue title is private">#169</a></p>

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<h4>Commit Summary</h4>
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  <li>Add handshake retransmissions</li>
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    <strong>M</strong>
    <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/266/files#diff-0">draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md</a>
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>  
+Servers MAY continue processing data from clients which conform to these
+defaults during the initial flight, even if the client behavior exceeds its
+current configuration.  If the connection is closed because these or other
+constraints were violated during the 0-RTT flight, clients MAY retry using the
+settings sent by the server on the closed connection.

Silly thought:  It would be nice if we could get QUIC to guarantee delivery of a certain payload that explains the connection close.  This feels very close to the reason phrase, but isn't just human-readable text.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/236">draft-ietf-quic-http.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt;  
+Servers MAY continue processing data from clients which conform to these
+defaults during the initial flight, even if the client behavior exceeds its
+current configuration.  If the connection is closed because these or other
+constraints were violated during the 0-RTT flight, clients MAY retry using the
+settings sent by the server on the closed connection.
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<p>Silly thought:  It would be nice if we could get QUIC to guarantee delivery of a certain payload that explains the connection close.  This feels very close to the reason phrase, but isn't just human-readable text.</p>

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martinduke requested changes on this pull request.

I think the logic is fine, though there are some fairly significant editorial comments.

I don't believe this fully addresses #169, although from Tokyo I gather that some of the things I was worried about are actually application-layer actions.

> @@ -414,6 +445,15 @@ acknowledged.  DetectLostPackets is called every time there is a new largest
 packet or if the loss detection alarm fires the previous largest acked packet is
 supplied.
 
+### Handshake Packets
+
+The receiver MUST not trust an unencryped ack for encrypted packets.  The receiver

what does it mean to "trust" an ack? Perhaps " the receiver MUST ignore any acknowledgment of an encrypted packet that occurs in an ACK frame in an unencrypted packet"?

> @@ -392,6 +357,72 @@ Pseudocode for OnPacketAcked follows:
      sent_packets.remove(acked_packet);
 ~~~
 
+## Setting the Loss Detection Alarm
+
+QUIC loss detection uses a single alarm for all timer-based loss detection.  The
+duration of the alarm is based on the alarm's mode, which is set in the packet
+and timer events further below.  The function SetLossDetectionAlarm defined
+below shows how the single timer is set based on the alarm mode.
+
+### Handshake Packets
+
+The initial client hello has no prior RTT sample.  A client SHOULD remember
+the previous RTT it observed when resumption is attempted and use that for an
+initial RTT value.  If no previous RTT is available, the initial RTT defaults
+to 200ms.  Once an RTT measurement is taken, it MUST replace initial_rtt.
+
+The client hello is retransmitted via a timer, similar to a tail loss probe, but

Some issues with the client and server paragraphs:
- I think all the language about tail loss probe and delayed ack confuses it.
- I'm afraid "client hello" is handshake specific
- Separating out client and server behavior is also unnecessary, as the psuedocode is the same
- This doesn't totally reflect the pseudo code. 

So how about striking these two paragraphs and replacing with the following:
"Endpoints MUST retransmit handshake packets if not acknowledged(1) within a time limit. This time limit will be the largest of the rtt value and MinTLPTimeout. For each previous handshake timeout on this connection, the timeout doubles."

"Endpoints MUST(?) also retransmit handshake packets if they receive a packet from earlier in the handshake, indicating loss of the local packet."

(1) I don't remember, must we ack the client hello, or is the server hello sufficient?

> +
+The initial client hello has no prior RTT sample.  A client SHOULD remember
+the previous RTT it observed when resumption is attempted and use that for an
+initial RTT value.  If no previous RTT is available, the initial RTT defaults
+to 200ms.  Once an RTT measurement is taken, it MUST replace initial_rtt.
+
+The client hello is retransmitted via a timer, similar to a tail loss probe, but
+it is expected client hellos will be acked immediately or a handshake packet will
+be sent immediately, so delayed acks do not need to be compensated for.  As such,
+it is always retransmitted at 2x the initial_rtt or smoothed_rtt.
+
+Server handshake packets may be sent based on a similar timer, or triggered by
+receipt of another client hello.  
+
+Version negotiation packets are always stateless, and MUST be sent once per
+client hello, and may be sent in response to 0RTT packets.

...per handshake packet that uses an unsupported QUIC version,...

s/may/MAY

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<p><b>@martinduke</b> requested changes on this pull request.</p>

<p>I think the logic is fine, though there are some fairly significant editorial comments.</p>
<p>I don't believe this fully addresses <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/169" class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/169" data-id="201369214" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-permission-text="Issue title is private">#169</a>, although from Tokyo I gather that some of the things I was worried about are actually application-layer actions.</p><hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/266#pullrequestreview-20621785">draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -414,6 +445,15 @@ acknowledged.  DetectLostPackets is called every time there is a new largest
 packet or if the loss detection alarm fires the previous largest acked packet is
 supplied.
 
+### Handshake Packets
+
+The receiver MUST not trust an unencryped ack for encrypted packets.  The receiver
</pre>
<p>what does it mean to "trust" an ack? Perhaps " the receiver MUST ignore any acknowledgment of an encrypted packet that occurs in an ACK frame in an unencrypted packet"?</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/266#pullrequestreview-20621785">draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -392,6 +357,72 @@ Pseudocode for OnPacketAcked follows:
      sent_packets.remove(acked_packet);
 ~~~
 
+## Setting the Loss Detection Alarm
+
+QUIC loss detection uses a single alarm for all timer-based loss detection.  The
+duration of the alarm is based on the alarm&#39;s mode, which is set in the packet
+and timer events further below.  The function SetLossDetectionAlarm defined
+below shows how the single timer is set based on the alarm mode.
+
+### Handshake Packets
+
+The initial client hello has no prior RTT sample.  A client SHOULD remember
+the previous RTT it observed when resumption is attempted and use that for an
+initial RTT value.  If no previous RTT is available, the initial RTT defaults
+to 200ms.  Once an RTT measurement is taken, it MUST replace initial_rtt.
+
+The client hello is retransmitted via a timer, similar to a tail loss probe, but
</pre>
<p>Some issues with the client and server paragraphs:</p>
<ul>
<li>I think all the language about tail loss probe and delayed ack confuses it.</li>
<li>I'm afraid "client hello" is handshake specific</li>
<li>Separating out client and server behavior is also unnecessary, as the psuedocode is the same</li>
<li>This doesn't totally reflect the pseudo code.</li>
</ul>
<p>So how about striking these two paragraphs and replacing with the following:<br>
"Endpoints MUST retransmit handshake packets if not acknowledged(1) within a time limit. This time limit will be the largest of the rtt value and MinTLPTimeout. For each previous handshake timeout on this connection, the timeout doubles."</p>
<p>"Endpoints MUST(?) also retransmit handshake packets if they receive a packet from earlier in the handshake, indicating loss of the local packet."</p>
<p>(1) I don't remember, must we ack the client hello, or is the server hello sufficient?</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/266#pullrequestreview-20621785">draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +
+The initial client hello has no prior RTT sample.  A client SHOULD remember
+the previous RTT it observed when resumption is attempted and use that for an
+initial RTT value.  If no previous RTT is available, the initial RTT defaults
+to 200ms.  Once an RTT measurement is taken, it MUST replace initial_rtt.
+
+The client hello is retransmitted via a timer, similar to a tail loss probe, but
+it is expected client hellos will be acked immediately or a handshake packet will
+be sent immediately, so delayed acks do not need to be compensated for.  As such,
+it is always retransmitted at 2x the initial_rtt or smoothed_rtt.
+
+Server handshake packets may be sent based on a similar timer, or triggered by
+receipt of another client hello.  
+
+Version negotiation packets are always stateless, and MUST be sent once per
+client hello, and may be sent in response to 0RTT packets.
</pre>
<p>...per handshake packet that uses an unsupported QUIC version,...</p>
<p>s/may/MAY</p>

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015ddc7  Strict default in 0-RTT; you really oughta cache


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+Servers MAY continue processing data from clients which conform to these
+defaults during the initial flight, even if the client behavior exceeds its
+current configuration.  If the connection is closed because these or other
+constraints were violated during the 0-RTT flight, clients MAY retry using the
+settings sent by the server on the closed connection.

I think there are actually two categories here.  Exceeding max header size, for example, only causes your request to be refused, not the entire connection to be reset.  You can tolerate that and retry.  (If, that is, you can programmatically reduce the size of your header set!)

The HPACK limit *will* cause the connection to be reset.  We can fix that with a punitively-small value if you haven't cached something -- which is okay, because 0-RTT means you've spoken to the server before, so you had the opportunity to cache.  If the client's cached value is now too big, there are a couple of options:

- Server can be permissive.  Client MUST apply the settings as soon as it knows them.  There is no delete in HPACK, so the client would just announce a table size change in its next frame.  Once we have QPACK or a cousin, we can bring back the text on mid-stream table size changes for this case.
- Server can reject
    - Client saw SETTINGS:  Retry and use those
    - Client didn't see SETTINGS:  Retry and use the horrific default

Yes, this means that servers which both reduce their settings and refuse to honor the old values will be imposing a one-time penalty on clients, but it's strictly better than 1-RTT.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/236">draft-ietf-quic-http.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt;  
+Servers MAY continue processing data from clients which conform to these
+defaults during the initial flight, even if the client behavior exceeds its
+current configuration.  If the connection is closed because these or other
+constraints were violated during the 0-RTT flight, clients MAY retry using the
+settings sent by the server on the closed connection.
</pre>
<p>I think there are actually two categories here.  Exceeding max header size, for example, only causes your request to be refused, not the entire connection to be reset.  You can tolerate that and retry.  (If, that is, you can programmatically reduce the size of your header set!)</p>
<p>The HPACK limit <em>will</em> cause the connection to be reset.  We can fix that with a punitively-small value if you haven't cached something -- which is okay, because 0-RTT means you've spoken to the server before, so you had the opportunity to cache.  If the client's cached value is now too big, there are a couple of options:</p>
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<li>Server can be permissive.  Client MUST apply the settings as soon as it knows them.  There is no delete in HPACK, so the client would just announce a table size change in its next frame.  Once we have QPACK or a cousin, we can bring back the text on mid-stream table size changes for this case.</li>
<li>Server can reject
<ul>
<li>Client saw SETTINGS:  Retry and use those</li>
<li>Client didn't see SETTINGS:  Retry and use the horrific default</li>
</ul>
</li>
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<p>Yes, this means that servers which both reduce their settings and refuse to honor the old values will be imposing a one-time penalty on clients, but it's strictly better than 1-RTT.</p>

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An ALTSVC frame should work for the proxy if the intent was to move the proxy.  The ALTSVC frame is processed hop-by-hop.  I don't know how well that use case has been tested, but it should be possible to advertise an alternative for the proxy origin.

And as far as the proxy goes, don't you have to deploy a TCP variant for now and into the foreseeable future if you want to have it work?  It's just like any other service, I'd imagine, and the h2 server stack isn't that much extra to have.

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That's a problem that servers already have.  They can promise far in excess of the number of streams the client permits.  Thus, it is safe (though perhaps inadvisable) for the client to advertise fewer streams than it uses to initiate requests.

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I don't think servers have this problem already. Today, a server can always send a response to a request from the client, regardless of how many push streams they have opened. This is because the response streams are counted against the client's limit and the push streams are counted against the server's limit. (Or vice versa I guess, depending on how you think about it.)That would not be the case if the server's push and response streams were counted agains the same limit.

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martinthomson commented on this pull request.

You really need to stop using the github editor for doing this stuff.  It shows.

> @@ -213,14 +213,17 @@ or negotiated in order to better suit a variety of environments.
   a packet lost.  In fraction of an RTT.
 
 * kMinTLPTimeout: 10ms
- Minimum time in the future a tail loss probe alarm may be set for.
+  Minimum time in the future a tail loss probe alarm may be set for.

Editorial: this might look OK in markdown, but it turns into a real mess in the text version.  I think that you want something like the following:

```
kMinTLPTimeout (default 10ms):
 : Minimum time in the future [...]
```

> @@ -392,6 +357,72 @@ Pseudocode for OnPacketAcked follows:
      sent_packets.remove(acked_packet);
 ~~~
 
+## Setting the Loss Detection Alarm
+
+QUIC loss detection uses a single alarm for all timer-based loss detection.  The
+duration of the alarm is based on the alarm's mode, which is set in the packet
+and timer events further below.  The function SetLossDetectionAlarm defined
+below shows how the single timer is set based on the alarm mode.
+
+### Handshake Packets
+
+The initial client hello has no prior RTT sample.  A client SHOULD remember
+the previous RTT it observed when resumption is attempted and use that for an
+initial RTT value.  If no previous RTT is available, the initial RTT defaults
+to 200ms.  Once an RTT measurement is taken, it MUST replace initial_rtt.
+
+The client hello is retransmitted via a timer, similar to a tail loss probe, but

An ACK for the ClientHello isn't needed, but it does contain some useful information (if you don't care about provenance, that is).

@martinduke, your use of "timeout" in that proposed text is problematic I think.  It could refer to the handshake timing out, but I think that you simply intended to retransmit on a doubling interval (i.e., 200ms, 400ms, 600ms, etc...).

I wonder if some amount of randomization on that retransmission is necessary to avoid synchronizing retransmissions across a large cohort of clients that are simultaneously disconnected, or whether variations in RTT will be enough to deal with that.

> @@ -392,6 +357,72 @@ Pseudocode for OnPacketAcked follows:
      sent_packets.remove(acked_packet);
 ~~~
 
+## Setting the Loss Detection Alarm
+
+QUIC loss detection uses a single alarm for all timer-based loss detection.  The
+duration of the alarm is based on the alarm's mode, which is set in the packet
+and timer events further below.  The function SetLossDetectionAlarm defined
+below shows how the single timer is set based on the alarm mode.
+
+### Handshake Packets
+
+The initial client hello has no prior RTT sample.  A client SHOULD remember
+the previous RTT it observed when resumption is attempted and use that for an
+initial RTT value.  If no previous RTT is available, the initial RTT defaults
+to 200ms.  Once an RTT measurement is taken, it MUST replace initial_rtt.
+
+The client hello is retransmitted via a timer, similar to a tail loss probe, but

Odd to be talking about TLP when you don't have text on TLP yet.

> @@ -414,6 +445,15 @@ acknowledged.  DetectLostPackets is called every time there is a new largest
 packet or if the loss detection alarm fires the previous largest acked packet is
 supplied.
 
+### Handshake Packets
+
+The receiver MUST not trust an unencryped ack for encrypted packets.  The receiver

s/unencryped/unencrypted

More generally, use "protected" rather than "encrypted' please.  We have both confidentiality and integrity protection and both are relevant.

> @@ -414,6 +445,15 @@ acknowledged.  DetectLostPackets is called every time there is a new largest
 packet or if the loss detection alarm fires the previous largest acked packet is
 supplied.
 
+### Handshake Packets
+
+The receiver MUST not trust an unencryped ack for encrypted packets.  The receiver

@martinduke is right to ask, note that not just the acknowledgment, but the entire packet is now suspect.  As we discussed elsewhere, I think that the entire packet needs to go away if it contains suspicious content.

> @@ -431,7 +471,7 @@ Pseudocode for DetectLostPackets follows:
                 acked_packet.packet_number - reordering_threshold)
          lost_packets.insert(unacked_packet.packet_number);
      return lost_packets;
-~~~
+~~~ 

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<p><b>@martinthomson</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

<p>You really need to stop using the github editor for doing this stuff.  It shows.</p><hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/266#pullrequestreview-20653838">draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -213,14 +213,17 @@ or negotiated in order to better suit a variety of environments.
   a packet lost.  In fraction of an RTT.
 
 * kMinTLPTimeout: 10ms
- Minimum time in the future a tail loss probe alarm may be set for.
+  Minimum time in the future a tail loss probe alarm may be set for.
</pre>
<p>Editorial: this might look OK in markdown, but it turns into a real mess in the text version.  I think that you want something like the following:</p>
<pre><code>kMinTLPTimeout (default 10ms):
 : Minimum time in the future [...]
</code></pre>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/266#pullrequestreview-20653838">draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -392,6 +357,72 @@ Pseudocode for OnPacketAcked follows:
      sent_packets.remove(acked_packet);
 ~~~
 
+## Setting the Loss Detection Alarm
+
+QUIC loss detection uses a single alarm for all timer-based loss detection.  The
+duration of the alarm is based on the alarm&#39;s mode, which is set in the packet
+and timer events further below.  The function SetLossDetectionAlarm defined
+below shows how the single timer is set based on the alarm mode.
+
+### Handshake Packets
+
+The initial client hello has no prior RTT sample.  A client SHOULD remember
+the previous RTT it observed when resumption is attempted and use that for an
+initial RTT value.  If no previous RTT is available, the initial RTT defaults
+to 200ms.  Once an RTT measurement is taken, it MUST replace initial_rtt.
+
+The client hello is retransmitted via a timer, similar to a tail loss probe, but
</pre>
<p>An ACK for the ClientHello isn't needed, but it does contain some useful information (if you don't care about provenance, that is).</p>
<p><a href="https://github.com/martinduke" class="user-mention">@martinduke</a>, your use of "timeout" in that proposed text is problematic I think.  It could refer to the handshake timing out, but I think that you simply intended to retransmit on a doubling interval (i.e., 200ms, 400ms, 600ms, etc...).</p>
<p>I wonder if some amount of randomization on that retransmission is necessary to avoid synchronizing retransmissions across a large cohort of clients that are simultaneously disconnected, or whether variations in RTT will be enough to deal with that.</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/266#pullrequestreview-20653838">draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -392,6 +357,72 @@ Pseudocode for OnPacketAcked follows:
      sent_packets.remove(acked_packet);
 ~~~
 
+## Setting the Loss Detection Alarm
+
+QUIC loss detection uses a single alarm for all timer-based loss detection.  The
+duration of the alarm is based on the alarm&#39;s mode, which is set in the packet
+and timer events further below.  The function SetLossDetectionAlarm defined
+below shows how the single timer is set based on the alarm mode.
+
+### Handshake Packets
+
+The initial client hello has no prior RTT sample.  A client SHOULD remember
+the previous RTT it observed when resumption is attempted and use that for an
+initial RTT value.  If no previous RTT is available, the initial RTT defaults
+to 200ms.  Once an RTT measurement is taken, it MUST replace initial_rtt.
+
+The client hello is retransmitted via a timer, similar to a tail loss probe, but
</pre>
<p>Odd to be talking about TLP when you don't have text on TLP yet.</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/266#pullrequestreview-20653838">draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -414,6 +445,15 @@ acknowledged.  DetectLostPackets is called every time there is a new largest
 packet or if the loss detection alarm fires the previous largest acked packet is
 supplied.
 
+### Handshake Packets
+
+The receiver MUST not trust an unencryped ack for encrypted packets.  The receiver
</pre>
<p>s/unencryped/unencrypted</p>
<p>More generally, use "protected" rather than "encrypted' please.  We have both confidentiality and integrity protection and both are relevant.</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/266#pullrequestreview-20653838">draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -414,6 +445,15 @@ acknowledged.  DetectLostPackets is called every time there is a new largest
 packet or if the loss detection alarm fires the previous largest acked packet is
 supplied.
 
+### Handshake Packets
+
+The receiver MUST not trust an unencryped ack for encrypted packets.  The receiver
</pre>
<p><a href="https://github.com/martinduke" class="user-mention">@martinduke</a> is right to ask, note that not just the acknowledgment, but the entire packet is now suspect.  As we discussed elsewhere, I think that the entire packet needs to go away if it contains suspicious content.</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/266#pullrequestreview-20653838">draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -431,7 +471,7 @@ Pseudocode for DetectLostPackets follows:
                 acked_packet.packet_number - reordering_threshold)
          lost_packets.insert(unacked_packet.packet_number);
      return lost_packets;
-~~~
+~~~ 
</pre>
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<p>In <a href=3D"https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/236#pullreque=
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A server that supports push does have the same problem.

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<p>A server that supports push does have the same problem.</p>

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Hm. Can you provide an example?

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I thought we had a discussion about Alt-Svc plus proxies which concluded that Alt-Svc is not for finding proxies:

https://github.com/httpwg/http-extensions/issues/62

quoth mnot:

"Yeah. Alt-Sv is for finding an origin, not for finding a proxy -- a proxy might use it, though.
This should all be clear based upon reading of RFC7230, but if not we could add a sentence or two to clarify."

So I don't think Alt-Svc  applies here.

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<p>I thought we had a discussion about Alt-Svc plus proxies which conclud=
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<p>quoth mnot:</p>
<p>"Yeah. Alt-Sv is for finding an origin, not for finding a proxy -- a p=
roxy might use it, though.<br>
This should all be clear based upon reading of RFC7230, but if not we cou=
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<p>So I don't think Alt-Svc  applies here.</p>

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> Policing this will be difficult, if not impossible, if there are extension headers. Userspace implementations might not even learn about them. From what I can tell, there is no limit to the size of extension headers in IPv6, so we can't really require that this enforcement happen.

While I agree that the IP header length is somewhat unpredictable, a user space implementation that doesn't know what's going on will presumably assume the minimum IP header length, and the packet will end up too big, not big enough.

All of the 1st-packet restrictions are meaningless if the implementation is allowed to assume an IP header length > minimum without knowing that that is the case.

Other fixes are in the following commit, though I did not take Martin's suggestions verbatim in every case.

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I think what Martin is saying is that the server is able, via PUSH_PROMISE, to queue up requests whose responses can't yet be sent.  That's not *quite* the same as saying that the client's requests also can't be sent, but from the server's perspective it's very similar -- a request is a request.  Having a reasonable initial priority on pushed streams, making them less important than client requests by default, helps to mitigate this.

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<p>I think what Martin is saying is that the server is able, via PUSH_PROMI=
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cfaeff6  Update draft-ietf-quic-transport.md


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Is the QUIC proxy in question actually HTTP/QUIC proxy, or a bit more like
a SOCKS proxy that would tunnel other protocols over QUIC?

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> I thought we had a discussion about Alt-Svc plus proxies which concluded
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Is the QUIC proxy in question actually HTTP/QUIC proxy, or a bit more like<=
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martinduke commented on this pull request.



> @@ -392,6 +357,72 @@ Pseudocode for OnPacketAcked follows:
      sent_packets.remove(acked_packet);
 ~~~
 
+## Setting the Loss Detection Alarm
+
+QUIC loss detection uses a single alarm for all timer-based loss detection.  The
+duration of the alarm is based on the alarm's mode, which is set in the packet
+and timer events further below.  The function SetLossDetectionAlarm defined
+below shows how the single timer is set based on the alarm mode.
+
+### Handshake Packets
+
+The initial client hello has no prior RTT sample.  A client SHOULD remember
+the previous RTT it observed when resumption is attempted and use that for an
+initial RTT value.  If no previous RTT is available, the initial RTT defaults
+to 200ms.  Once an RTT measurement is taken, it MUST replace initial_rtt.
+
+The client hello is retransmitted via a timer, similar to a tail loss probe, but

@martinthomson Yeah, maybe "For each previous handshake restransmission on this connection, the time limit doubles".

The way I wrote this actually implies that the timeout doubling doesn't actually reset, i.e. chlo times out twice, causing the timeout to double. Then the Finished is lost, and remains at the doubled length. I'm not sure if I meant to do that, but be aware of it.

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<p><b>@martinduke</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/266">draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -392,6 +357,72 @@ Pseudocode for OnPacketAcked follows:
      sent_packets.remove(acked_packet);
 ~~~
 
+## Setting the Loss Detection Alarm
+
+QUIC loss detection uses a single alarm for all timer-based loss detection.  The
+duration of the alarm is based on the alarm&#39;s mode, which is set in the packet
+and timer events further below.  The function SetLossDetectionAlarm defined
+below shows how the single timer is set based on the alarm mode.
+
+### Handshake Packets
+
+The initial client hello has no prior RTT sample.  A client SHOULD remember
+the previous RTT it observed when resumption is attempted and use that for an
+initial RTT value.  If no previous RTT is available, the initial RTT defaults
+to 200ms.  Once an RTT measurement is taken, it MUST replace initial_rtt.
+
+The client hello is retransmitted via a timer, similar to a tail loss probe, but
</pre>
<p><a href="https://github.com/martinthomson" class="user-mention">@martinthomson</a> Yeah, maybe "For each previous handshake restransmission on this connection, the time limit doubles".</p>
<p>The way I wrote this actually implies that the timeout doubling doesn't actually reset, i.e. chlo times out twice, causing the timeout to double. Then the Finished is lost, and remains at the doubled length. I'm not sure if I meant to do that, but be aware of it.</p>

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Ah. I see what you're getting at. I agree that there are some similarities here. Thanks!

On the other hand, I think there are some significant differences. While it's clear that in the promise case, the server can promise streams that it is not ready to send, the server is in a position to know the relative importance of the various resources it wishes to push and can chose to send them in the order that is most useful to the client. However, the server is not in a position to know the relative importance of the pushed stream to the not-yet-received request(s) from the client. This puts the server in the position of being unable to service a high-priority request when it arrives. In the push case, the server could chose to pause sending on the open push streams to reply to the request. It could also chose not to promise a push of an important sub-resounce of that request because it knows that it is at the push stream limit. This would allow the client to request that subresource and reply via a non-push stream.


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  Branch: refs/heads/immutable_settings
  Home:   https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts
  Commit: 4835d74450c99d145993418e067abe411e6bfac7
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/4835d74450c99d145993418e067abe411e6bfac7
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2016-11-28 (Mon, 28 Nov 2016)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Protected packets prior to handshake completion


  Commit: 6b46c0b9d539115a012dfa7fd62a4c0319edc873
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/6b46c0b9d539115a012dfa7fd62a4c0319edc873
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2016-11-28 (Mon, 28 Nov 2016)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Fixup a few gaffes


  Commit: 32dfeab698be86939ad2b7543df54dbc9e1eab8b
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/32dfeab698be86939ad2b7543df54dbc9e1eab8b
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2016-11-28 (Mon, 28 Nov 2016)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Reflow


  Commit: efde8733a892775233a15d5f07d028d073d33b43
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/efde8733a892775233a15d5f07d028d073d33b43
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-01-09 (Mon, 09 Jan 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Rewrite based on feedback from ekr


  Commit: d80c268f751ab04bbf00e75c8df9d181c3b66bc6
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/d80c268f751ab04bbf00e75c8df9d181c3b66bc6
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-01-11 (Wed, 11 Jan 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  TLS 1.3 is the minimum acceptable TLS version


  Commit: 8608ac1a626c0aa820eab89ce915216dca327fbd
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/8608ac1a626c0aa820eab89ce915216dca327fbd
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-01-11 (Wed, 11 Jan 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Describe peer authentication


  Commit: 5402eb39946d2e6fcd974969dcd7ff7eba44827c
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/5402eb39946d2e6fcd974969dcd7ff7eba44827c
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-01-11 (Wed, 11 Jan 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Rewrite the section on source address tokens for TLS


  Commit: 48cd6b953547b52710dfa4a1607952398a9c4ec4
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/48cd6b953547b52710dfa4a1607952398a9c4ec4
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-01-11 (Wed, 11 Jan 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Remove the redundant section from the -tls draft


  Commit: c6eba13ff4de2c480afc41862ffb0a43b8bf910e
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c6eba13ff4de2c480afc41862ffb0a43b8bf910e
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-01-11 (Wed, 11 Jan 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Fix dead reference


  Commit: 2351733f31c390940f404027e9ecf2cc3a32db96
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/2351733f31c390940f404027e9ecf2cc3a32db96
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-01-11 (Wed, 11 Jan 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Grammatical corrections


  Commit: ff1faa2503e42040d4f95b69a8644523ac684b31
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/ff1faa2503e42040d4f95b69a8644523ac684b31
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-01-11 (Wed, 11 Jan 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Another


  Commit: 9657bcce12b8a129d18bbb2cdea730f2a887f1f0
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/9657bcce12b8a129d18bbb2cdea730f2a887f1f0
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-01-12 (Thu, 12 Jan 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Remove redundancy


  Commit: a97fff74b366a0057a80f038ff60361da98920a2
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/a97fff74b366a0057a80f038ff60361da98920a2
  Author: Marten Seemann <martenseemann@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-01-13 (Fri, 13 Jan 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  window updates should be based on data consumed, not data received


  Commit: 1e839af1a2661edf47a30d583e1e8137987f5f93
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/1e839af1a2661edf47a30d583e1e8137987f5f93
  Author: Marten Seemann <martenseemann@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-01-14 (Sat, 14 Jan 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  specify error code for flow control violations


  Commit: 3697fe37eb1d9b6892f3c3ddad29d187f76b9d47
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/3697fe37eb1d9b6892f3c3ddad29d187f76b9d47
  Author: Marten Seemann <martenseemann@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-01-14 (Sat, 14 Jan 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  allow sending a WINDOW_UPDATE frame multiple times


  Commit: 7ded7534c44b042c3746f8ce44ac2c667a2153dc
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/7ded7534c44b042c3746f8ce44ac2c667a2153dc
  Author: Marten Seemann <martenseemann@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-01-14 (Sat, 14 Jan 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  correctly describe connection-level flow control


  Commit: a3695178f3315f4740e4c44a4e16e92faf8b9f57
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/a3695178f3315f4740e4c44a4e16e92faf8b9f57
  Author: Marten Seemann <martenseemann@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-01-16 (Mon, 16 Jan 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  add missing comma


  Commit: c5f104920852ecd0a29cf83e61f70f2444ba7770
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c5f104920852ecd0a29cf83e61f70f2444ba7770
  Author: Marten Seemann <martenseemann@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-01-16 (Mon, 16 Jan 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  improve condition when to ignore WINDOW_UPDATE


  Commit: 446d1bd2e2d1b1bb148b89f06dd449690f41e177
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/446d1bd2e2d1b1bb148b89f06dd449690f41e177
  Author: Marten Seemann <martenseemann@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-01-16 (Mon, 16 Jan 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  clarify the purpose of sending a WINDOW_UPDATE more than once


  Commit: b5cff05f12115fbdc0d110525fdc9ee426772b8b
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/b5cff05f12115fbdc0d110525fdc9ee426772b8b
  Author: ianswett <ianswett@users.noreply.github.com>
  Date:   2017-01-19 (Thu, 19 Jan 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Clarify the ack frame section

Clarifies how to populate the STOP WAITING frame and removes inconsistently used double quotes.


  Commit: 01f0441b77de243c5ffd1f14ed0488ee33bd81b2
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/01f0441b77de243c5ffd1f14ed0488ee33bd81b2
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-01-20 (Fri, 20 Jan 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Remove unbalanced double quote


  Commit: 818c9a89fbe76632db2db9cb78f2326461f0b2dc
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/818c9a89fbe76632db2db9cb78f2326461f0b2dc
  Author: Alessandro Ghedini <alessandro@ghedini.me>
  Date:   2017-01-21 (Sat, 21 Jan 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Frame type is already defined, don't repeat


  Commit: 30370d14e419ca61ef3bebd2b9110b50d6919ee6
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/30370d14e419ca61ef3bebd2b9110b50d6919ee6
  Author: Alessandro Ghedini <alessandro@ghedini.me>
  Date:   2017-01-21 (Sat, 21 Jan 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Don't repeat how StreamID len is determined (other fields don't)


  Commit: 8da04f771ef656a5d8416c5c9a176bb2579d45f0
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/8da04f771ef656a5d8416c5c9a176bb2579d45f0
  Author: Alessandro Ghedini <alessandro@ghedini.me>
  Date:   2017-01-21 (Sat, 21 Jan 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md

  Log Message:
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  Fix a bunch of typos


  Commit: 17fcc77431d9e048863e59ed9e458a5d6f724a15
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/17fcc77431d9e048863e59ed9e458a5d6f724a15
  Author: Alessandro Ghedini <alessandro@ghedini.me>
  Date:   2017-01-21 (Sat, 21 Jan 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Use "a RST_STREAM ..." for consistency


  Commit: 8c52cfd9efe956276d44ae7929fa89e128025db3
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/8c52cfd9efe956276d44ae7929fa89e128025db3
  Author: Alessandro Ghedini <alessandro@ghedini.me>
  Date:   2017-01-21 (Sat, 21 Jan 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Fix grammer by adding some words


  Commit: 509d3a813e5dcc13f94250b62b9b8659eb33ba11
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/509d3a813e5dcc13f94250b62b9b8659eb33ba11
  Author: Alessandro Ghedini <alessandro@ghedini.me>
  Date:   2017-01-21 (Sat, 21 Jan 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md

  Log Message:
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  Don't repeat subject


  Commit: e1146e48821bc3b02415c78429046a4067469721
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/e1146e48821bc3b02415c78429046a4067469721
  Author: Alessandro Ghedini <alessandro@ghedini.me>
  Date:   2017-01-21 (Sat, 21 Jan 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Fix more typos


  Commit: ea53fa88a8564a000793c63cb48dae006615041c
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/ea53fa88a8564a000793c63cb48dae006615041c
  Author: Alessandro Ghedini <alessandro@ghedini.me>
  Date:   2017-01-21 (Sat, 21 Jan 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Somehow this sentence sounds weird, improve wording


  Commit: e8e6e66a458bf73f8f707c0fa285ebbeea1b2491
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/e8e6e66a458bf73f8f707c0fa285ebbeea1b2491
  Author: Alessandro Ghedini <alessandro@ghedini.me>
  Date:   2017-01-21 (Sat, 21 Jan 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Saying "cumulative" once is enough I reckon


  Commit: 89846118ae85ae5366d273f2e765bb7f021bff59
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/89846118ae85ae5366d273f2e765bb7f021bff59
  Author: Alessandro Ghedini <alessandro@ghedini.me>
  Date:   2017-01-21 (Sat, 21 Jan 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Fix pseudo-code indentation


  Commit: 7c41ea00b07e8c10fd29e5047f5f614e48b4597b
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/7c41ea00b07e8c10fd29e5047f5f614e48b4597b
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-01-24 (Tue, 24 Jan 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Use the VERSION flag to identify 0-RTT packets

This aligns the transport draft with the tls draft.

The primary reason for using this identification is that there are three types
of keys that are in concurrent use during a 0-RTT handshake: unprotected
(cleartext), 0-RTT and 1-RTT.  Identifying 0-RTT packets this way allows the
server to avoid trial decryption.


  Commit: 223fd75c121fcf3ffcb8eb7312034d617ac1b37b
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/223fd75c121fcf3ffcb8eb7312034d617ac1b37b
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-01-25 (Wed, 25 Jan 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Require both version negotiation AND 1-RTT keys


  Commit: e3caeaf94da75cf6a3cdd6548aa9094bfcaed4c9
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/e3caeaf94da75cf6a3cdd6548aa9094bfcaed4c9
  Author: Mike Bishop <michbish@microsoft.com>
  Date:   2017-01-25 (Wed, 25 Jan 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Use quic= instead of v=


  Commit: 684ca6e6256f082636fe3c8f14bef4fa4df806e7
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/684ca6e6256f082636fe3c8f14bef4fa4df806e7
  Author: Mike Bishop <michbish@microsoft.com>
  Date:   2017-01-26 (Thu, 26 Jan 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Incorporating feedback on quic= parameter


  Commit: 03e0cd2f106de71a1f69c5d85be134154612c7bf
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/03e0cd2f106de71a1f69c5d85be134154612c7bf
  Author: Mike Bishop <michbish@microsoft.com>
  Date:   2017-01-29 (Sun, 29 Jan 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Fix HTTP_MALFORMED_* descriptions


  Commit: dcb0a2b7fef335bb3695b06a9b68b7d771a4bb77
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/dcb0a2b7fef335bb3695b06a9b68b7d771a4bb77
  Author: Mike Bishop <michbish@microsoft.com>
  Date:   2017-01-29 (Sun, 29 Jan 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-http.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Remove connection-level flow control exclusion


  Commit: fb0b084741166adc4ebae82bcb2198b75e896734
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/fb0b084741166adc4ebae82bcb2198b75e896734
  Author: Mike Bishop <michbish@microsoft.com>
  Date:   2017-01-29 (Sun, 29 Jan 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Fix doubled word


  Commit: 228cb39eeaf31596670cdc6cbaccbbbd5f16289c
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/228cb39eeaf31596670cdc6cbaccbbbd5f16289c
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-01-30 (Mon, 30 Jan 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #246 from quicwg/no_exemptions

Remove connection-level flow control exclusion


  Commit: a27a8c7726bd581ad37a909dec327a1e72176a47
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/a27a8c7726bd581ad37a909dec327a1e72176a47
  Author: Mike Bishop <michbish@microsoft.com>
  Date:   2017-01-30 (Mon, 30 Jan 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Fixing comma splice

See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comma_splice


  Commit: a37132543c535c7dbd6717c9cf63a7013e4e9332
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/a37132543c535c7dbd6717c9cf63a7013e4e9332
  Author: Mike Bishop <michbish@microsoft.com>
  Date:   2017-01-30 (Mon, 30 Jan 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Centering text in figure


  Commit: c78460a2a56fea8b7aa0fc26ccb614a0c104acad
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c78460a2a56fea8b7aa0fc26ccb614a0c104acad
  Author: Mike Bishop <michbish@microsoft.com>
  Date:   2017-01-30 (Mon, 30 Jan 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Put Error Code at a consistent offset


  Commit: e1431f8b3730a6da280f4944b26aa6ba9bdceb21
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/e1431f8b3730a6da280f4944b26aa6ba9bdceb21
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-01-31 (Tue, 31 Jan 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #189 from ghedo/misc

Misc. small fixes


  Commit: 8c288c26755037147282aa1fb3e9a7ae27e25383
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/8c288c26755037147282aa1fb3e9a7ae27e25383
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-01-31 (Tue, 31 Jan 2017)

  Changed paths:
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    M CONTRIBUTING.md
    M Makefile
    M README.md
    R draft-ietf-quic-http-mapping.md
    A draft-ietf-quic-http.md
    R draft-ietf-quic-loss-detection.md
    A draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md
    R draft-ietf-quic-transport-protocol.md
    A draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Merge branch 'master' into protected_pre


  Commit: 900adf8fb30fdb72584cd114feb64fc5b8201e01
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/900adf8fb30fdb72584cd114feb64fc5b8201e01
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-01-31 (Tue, 31 Jan 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md

  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #138 from quicwg/tls13plus

TLS 1.3 is the minimum acceptable TLS version


  Commit: 3695d359b66816f854434329f1b9133bf7a460fb
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/3695d359b66816f854434329f1b9133bf7a460fb
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-01-31 (Tue, 31 Jan 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M CONTRIBUTING.md
    M Makefile
    M README.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-http.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Merge branch 'master' into client_auth


  Commit: 94d0a16a539970fe1272282162bd9f13443d3c60
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/94d0a16a539970fe1272282162bd9f13443d3c60
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-01-31 (Tue, 31 Jan 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md

  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #140 from quicwg/client_auth

Describe peer authentication


  Commit: ce77aac945042e080fc23b9b5c9344450b403628
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/ce77aac945042e080fc23b9b5c9344450b403628
  Author: Patrick McManus <mcmanus@ducksong.com>
  Date:   2017-01-31 (Tue, 31 Jan 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  clarify connection termination text

This particular sentence always confused me - it read as if it specified than an initiating peer had to send a close message to itself.


  Commit: 3f8576db13cfb3677e8ace7c47af449edd61f746
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/3f8576db13cfb3677e8ace7c47af449edd61f746
  Author: Patrick McManus <mcmanus@ducksong.com>
  Date:   2017-01-31 (Tue, 31 Jan 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  clarify 5.2.2 frame type enumerations

I've always found 5.2.2's use of 1fdoooss and 01nullmm more confusing than helpful when trying to figure out what the frame type enumerations are. They are well defined later on in the STREAM and ACK frame definitions, but in the general frame type section it reads a bit unclear to me. This PR just enumerates the type ranges of each frame type and forgoes the bit level definitions.


  Commit: a6e7d47151aa0dbbb2172602baaeb375df847d14
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/a6e7d47151aa0dbbb2172602baaeb375df847d14
  Author: Mike Bishop <michbish@microsoft.com>
  Date:   2017-01-31 (Tue, 31 Jan 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-http.md

  Log Message:
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  Broaden language to include alternate-host Alt-Svc uses


  Commit: 6b1b10d3eb02a471214dc507d491402318e724a0
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/6b1b10d3eb02a471214dc507d491402318e724a0
  Author: Mike Bishop <michbish@microsoft.com>
  Date:   2017-01-31 (Tue, 31 Jan 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-http.md

  Log Message:
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  Making origin/alternative clearer


  Commit: aae6fb13d0c05fa993e5ca63b41b1be43517bd07
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/aae6fb13d0c05fa993e5ca63b41b1be43517bd07
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-01 (Wed, 01 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #250 from mcmanus/patch-2

clarify connection termination text


  Commit: ec68a1eec5bc15dbf43115fbd122deb0a59610f4
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/ec68a1eec5bc15dbf43115fbd122deb0a59610f4
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-01 (Wed, 01 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M CONTRIBUTING.md
    M README.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-http.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Merge branch 'master' into connection-flowcontrol


  Commit: 7515ad7dc644495bcebe22076c32911bbda77df3
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/7515ad7dc644495bcebe22076c32911bbda77df3
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-01 (Wed, 01 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #180 from quicwg/ianswett-patch-1

Clarify the ack frame section


  Commit: c385f4d313d46264e3683e604079272d6381b571
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c385f4d313d46264e3683e604079272d6381b571
  Author: Marten Seemann <martenseemann@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-01 (Wed, 01 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  handle reordered RST_STREAM frames and FIN flags


  Commit: 7f547bc49fe97648f017dac449a713d9a7fe5972
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/7f547bc49fe97648f017dac449a713d9a7fe5972
  Author: Marten Seemann <martenseemann@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-01 (Wed, 01 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  allow reading from streams that a RST_STREAM has been received for


  Commit: c0edb3b6fd4ec1616162fec768613c02272076bb
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c0edb3b6fd4ec1616162fec768613c02272076bb
  Author: Marten Seemann <martenseemann@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-01 (Wed, 01 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Revert "allow reading from streams that a RST_STREAM has been received for"

This reverts commit 782263a92e484a1d8036d39e8b2f8da716aac726.


  Commit: ff1578ca443168d47d7be97f598466f3f17cb4de
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/ff1578ca443168d47d7be97f598466f3f17cb4de
  Author: Marten Seemann <martenseemann@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-01 (Wed, 01 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  minor changes, fix typos


  Commit: 8c8e5ec8868b5f73ecd82d3f647155466ec22434
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/8c8e5ec8868b5f73ecd82d3f647155466ec22434
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-01 (Wed, 01 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Rewrite final offset text

* Define final offset as the offset of the end of stream data
* Describe how the final offset is carried in RST_STREAM and STREAM frames
* Final offset can't change, describe the error to use
* Data can't be sent after the final offset, describe the error to use
* Update the field name in the RST_STREAM frame description
* Reference the relevant text in the closed state in both of the half-closed states


  Commit: 066c6e51692c6a4a1aca6766fbffd3999e35f255
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/066c6e51692c6a4a1aca6766fbffd3999e35f255
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-01 (Wed, 01 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Editorial pass after self-review


  Commit: a9e47f2b4b83adbbdbe434b103c307a99a53ab96
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/a9e47f2b4b83adbbdbe434b103c307a99a53ab96
  Author: Mike Bishop <michbish@microsoft.com>
  Date:   2017-02-01 (Wed, 01 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-http.md

  Log Message:
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  Clarifying example versions


  Commit: f63f56ddf8ca84f60041da932a6397c42ac70745
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/f63f56ddf8ca84f60041da932a6397c42ac70745
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-02 (Thu, 02 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #254 from quicwg/mseemann_closing

Text on handling stream close and data that follows it


  Commit: 6b9bbc6205d2a252eef4b6d1fab5066f628978cb
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/6b9bbc6205d2a252eef4b6d1fab5066f628978cb
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-02 (Thu, 02 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-http.md

  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #235 from quicwg/v_quic

Use quic= instead of v=


  Commit: 48b3f4591e46817cdace3558c2963c539aae00a1
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/48b3f4591e46817cdace3558c2963c539aae00a1
  Author: Dragana Damjanovic <dragana.damjano@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-02 (Thu, 02 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Add reference how connId is negotiated.


  Commit: 8bff0020323072d1e3cccbe08f8eef03e627624b
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/8bff0020323072d1e3cccbe08f8eef03e627624b
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-03 (Fri, 03 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #256 from ddragana/ver1

Add reference how connection ID is negotiated.


  Commit: 5bdf34045cada01b86f50798ecfcdba8c664528b
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/5bdf34045cada01b86f50798ecfcdba8c664528b
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-03 (Fri, 03 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Split streams intro into smaller pieces, add flow control


  Commit: 319df0e66dd447846ac4796e2d65e2ff46fee0ed
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/319df0e66dd447846ac4796e2d65e2ff46fee0ed
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-03 (Fri, 03 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md

  Log Message:
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  Avoid HOLB induced by a dependency on client Finished

...by sending the Finished in every packet.


  Commit: 486728eef7196e1642cb49434ea15d26f53c72f7
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/486728eef7196e1642cb49434ea15d26f53c72f7
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-03 (Fri, 03 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M Makefile
    M circle.yml

  Log Message:
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  Test out saving of issues


  Commit: 77e695b028c0aab751c717ed1cf0b9d936c9366c
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/77e695b028c0aab751c717ed1cf0b9d936c9366c
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-03 (Fri, 03 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M Makefile

  Log Message:
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  Use master again


  Commit: 7f7b58b548fc54bb65a47152be8b187112ea4e86
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/7f7b58b548fc54bb65a47152be8b187112ea4e86
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-04 (Sat, 04 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md

  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #260 from quicwg/finished_in_every_packet

Avoid HOLB induced by a dependency on client Finished


  Commit: 42ab2c2001813939fd8091523047e0a79c96f51e
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/42ab2c2001813939fd8091523047e0a79c96f51e
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-06 (Mon, 06 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M circle.yml

  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #261 from quicwg/save_issues

Save issues on gh-issue branch


  Commit: ef1ac73ed7c506b1b4d0bfdd01c3d1e56e4550f3
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/ef1ac73ed7c506b1b4d0bfdd01c3d1e56e4550f3
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-07 (Tue, 07 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md

  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #39 from quicwg/protected_pre

Protected pre-handshake packets


  Commit: 72cac4e66b302e89ae4c9b5af2de93b7876fba91
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/72cac4e66b302e89ae4c9b5af2de93b7876fba91
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-07 (Tue, 07 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #120 from quicwg/source_address_token

Source address token


  Commit: 3e7364007e03bd7e3ca538d176f5a1d21a396497
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/3e7364007e03bd7e3ca538d176f5a1d21a396497
  Author: janaiyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-06 (Mon, 06 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #150 from marten-seemann/connection-flowcontrol

improve description of flow control


  Commit: a426fb34882a7e4ac3982d158d2bb4733488fb0d
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/a426fb34882a7e4ac3982d158d2bb4733488fb0d
  Author: janaiyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-06 (Mon, 06 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #207 from quicwg/0rtt_version_bit

Use the VERSION flag to identify 0-RTT packets


  Commit: 761038d5f4fd47ba5c71287a01c90d8858760e9b
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/761038d5f4fd47ba5c71287a01c90d8858760e9b
  Author: janaiyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-06 (Mon, 06 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M circle.yml
    M draft-ietf-quic-http.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Merge branch 'master' into consistent_offset


  Commit: 617b0121e3a950103a98c2f067f96a8e0c4bc19a
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/617b0121e3a950103a98c2f067f96a8e0c4bc19a
  Author: janaiyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-06 (Mon, 06 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #249 from quicwg/consistent_offset

Error Codes at a consistent offset


  Commit: 4b74314071b34ed43ebe71108ce182c6bb6543eb
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/4b74314071b34ed43ebe71108ce182c6bb6543eb
  Author: janaiyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-06 (Mon, 06 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #251 from mcmanus/patch-3

clarify 5.2.2 frame type enumerations


  Commit: 7732a91e137a36ffbc8c369efb228b9f70cab85c
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/7732a91e137a36ffbc8c369efb228b9f70cab85c
  Author: janaiyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-06 (Mon, 06 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #258 from quicwg/lightweight_stream_intro

Split streams intro into smaller pieces, add flow control


  Commit: c6661243a3834fb0642fed2e71cd5241d01ff8db
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c6661243a3834fb0642fed2e71cd5241d01ff8db
  Author: ianswett <ianswett@users.noreply.github.com>
  Date:   2017-02-07 (Tue, 07 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md

  Log Message:
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  Move references to informational references (#190)

* Move references to informational references

Moves references to informational references, clarifies that SRTT and RTTVar are computed based on an RFC, and adds todos for the congestion control section for anything formerly in the references section.

* Fix informative references (#218)

* This should fix your build errors

* Fix the TLP reference as well


  Commit: b0e57ec79f026d5af01207d145b21ca64462109c
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/b0e57ec79f026d5af01207d145b21ca64462109c
  Author: Mike Bishop <michbish@microsoft.com>
  Date:   2017-02-07 (Tue, 07 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M circle.yml
    M draft-ietf-quic-http.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/master' into immutable_settings


Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/015ddc7e33e6...b0e57ec79f02
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It's an "HTTP proxy" that the client speaks to via QUIC, I guess you could say. This is similar to the "https" proxy scheme that chrome supports when it wants to talk to an "HTTP proxy" over a TLS connection (which may result in an HTTP/2 connection to the proxy as the result of ALPN)

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  Branch: refs/heads/master
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  Author: Mike Bishop <michael.bishop@microsoft.com>
  Date:   2017-02-07 (Tue, 07 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Immutable settings with no ACKs (#236)

Removes SETTINGS_ACK and makes settings immutable; prohibits server from sending until it sees SETTINGS.  Defines 0-RTT defaults.  Closes #181.



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Ah so I understand better that there's a slight dichotomy here. If a client
is configured to use an HTTPS proxy, and an origin advertises "hq" what
proxy should the client use? I don't think it's fair to assume that a
single proxy application has to support HTTPS and HTTP/QUIC.

If an HTTPS proxy were to offer an alt-svc itself that points to a
standalone HTTP/QUIC-only proxy, then does that upset things when the
client comes to try an access a new origin with a https scheme?

I think this is channeling some of McManus' earlier comments. If this is
repeating discussion of that old proxy thread then apologies, I'll do some
more background reading.


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@LPardue, yeah, that's an old discussion.  A client makes a decision to use the proxy first, which results in ignoring Alt-Svc.  See RFC 7838.

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<p><a href="https://github.com/LPardue" class="user-mention">@LPardue</a>, yeah, that's an old discussion.  A client makes a decision to use the proxy first, which results in ignoring Alt-Svc.  See RFC 7838.</p>

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janaiyengar approved this pull request.

I'd like to editorialize a bit, but let's get this merged and then editorialize. martinthomson@, look good?



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<p><b>@janaiyengar</b> approved this pull request.</p>

<p>I'd like to editorialize a bit, but let's get this merged and then editorialize. martinthomson@, look good?</p>

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Rewrote the PMTUD section as discussed in Issue #64:
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Because of concern about user-space implementations controlling kernel PMTU mechanisms, and interest in PLPMTUD as an alternative to tradition ICMP PMTUD, this is a thick web of different options, MUSTs and SHOULDs. In my truest heart I would like to sweep a lot of this away and do a MUST based on around the ICMP system, but though wordy this is more likely to please everyone.


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Substantial edits for #106 to reflect comments for both it and #105.


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- Clarified that packet number ambiguity only exists in IPv4, as RFC 1885 requires IPv6 packet-too-big messages to be quite a bit longer.
- Addressed all of Ian's comments, except...
- I'm sticking with the MUST set DF for IPv4 handshake packets, because I don't see how the basic test-the-MTU mechanism works without it.


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  Revised PMTU section

Addressed Jana's comments.


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Addressed Martin T's 01/12 comments.


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Removed the paragraph on handshake padding (now in Issue #164) so that the rest can be merged into the document.


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Added all the changes decided on in Tokyo for #64, #69, #139, #164.

I imagine any remaining comments will be editorial.


  Commit: cfaeff689a7d3d9a8204939c2cdea61f7e75077d
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Addressed Martin Thomson's issues. Changes are not quite verbatim from his suggestions.


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  Merge pull request #106 from martinduke/patch-1

PMTUD


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PR #106 added the following requirement on servers:

> Servers MUST reject the first plaintext packet received from a client if it its total size is less than 1280 octets, to mitigate amplification attacks.

However, this runs into an issue in the case where there are IP header extensions that the client knows about but the server doesn't.  If the client is aware of the IP header extensions and constructs a packet with a smaller payload in order to comply with our recommendation to create a packet of exactly 1280 octets, the server will receive a packet that it thinks is too small.

I see a few options:
1. loosen the enforcement constraint on the server
2. specify that the server only enforce the constraint if it sees the entire IP packet
3. specify the minimum size and its enforcement in terms of payload size (we could set different values here to allow for header extensions)

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<p>PR <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/106" class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/106" data-id="197907354" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-permission-text="Issue title is private">#106</a> added the following requirement on servers:</p>
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<p>Servers MUST reject the first plaintext packet received from a client if it its total size is less than 1280 octets, to mitigate amplification attacks.</p>
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<p>However, this runs into an issue in the case where there are IP header extensions that the client knows about but the server doesn't.  If the client is aware of the IP header extensions and constructs a packet with a smaller payload in order to comply with our recommendation to create a packet of exactly 1280 octets, the server will receive a packet that it thinks is too small.</p>
<p>I see a few options:</p>
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<li>loosen the enforcement constraint on the server</li>
<li>specify that the server only enforce the constraint if it sees the entire IP packet</li>
<li>specify the minimum size and its enforcement in terms of payload size (we could set different values here to allow for header extensions)</li>
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  Branch: refs/heads/master
  Home:   https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts
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  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-08 (Wed, 08 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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I would be inclined to go with #3. The UDP payload of the first plaintext
packet from a client to a server must be at least 1280 bytes.


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I would be inclined to go with #3. The UDP payload of the first plaintext<br>
packet from a client to a server must be at least 1280 bytes.<br>


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We could split by version so that the IP datagram is closer to 1280, i.e., 1232 octets for IPv6 and 1252 octets for IPv4.  Then we hit 1280 in the absence of header extensions.

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I think that we are leaning towards not accepting this change.

@mnot, @larseggert, am I correct here? and how should we proceed now?

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<p>I think that we are leaning towards not accepting this change.</p>
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<p><a href="https://github.com/MikeBishop" class="user-mention">@MikeBishop</a> any thoughts / change of mind?</p>

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I renamed the uf16.h implementation to ufloat16.h for consistency with Go and Chromium implementations.

Regarding my earlier comment on 32-bit overflow in first timestamp, I can see that Chromium maps overflow to closest previously or next epoch, which is probably a good way to handle this without loosing precision.

Off topic, but some other vague formulation in current ACK frame spec I noticed:

Ordering of ack blocks is unclear because blocks can't grow beyond latest observed, and descending blocks are only mentioned in source comments:
https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/net/+/master/quic/core/quic_framer.cc#1967

With descending blocks, it is also not clear how STOP_WAITING can make the receiver stop waiting if there are pending gaps below latested_acked. Intuitively STOP_WAITING seems to be a lower bound beyond which neither acks nor ack gaps are transmitted, but that can't be

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<p>I renamed the uf16.h implementation to ufloat16.h for consistency with G=
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h is probably a good way to handle this without loosing precision.</p>
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noticed:</p>
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t observed, and descending blocks are only mentioned in source comments:<br>
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<p>With descending blocks, it is also not clear how STOP_WAITING can make t=
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Given that many of us, when wearing tsvwg hats, are ECN evangelists, it's a little odd that support for this hasn't come up.

I see that there's now an internet-draft on this subject:
[https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-johansson-quic-ecn-00]

It's debatable if it's better to put the ECE/CWR bits in the ACK frame (as the draft suggests) or in some newly-liberated public flags.

As an added feature/bug, depending on your perspective, service providers interested in enforcing fairness or bandwidth limits could use ECN bits as fairly clean way to do this. With TCP, a common flow-control tool is the receive window, but that is not available here.

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<p>Given that many of us, when wearing tsvwg hats, are ECN evangelists, it's a little odd that support for this hasn't come up.</p>
<p>I see that there's now an internet-draft on this subject:<br>
[https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-johansson-quic-ecn-00]</p>
<p>It's debatable if it's better to put the ECE/CWR bits in the ACK frame (as the draft suggests) or in some newly-liberated public flags.</p>
<p>As an added feature/bug, depending on your perspective, service providers interested in enforcing fairness or bandwidth limits could use ECN bits as fairly clean way to do this. With TCP, a common flow-control tool is the receive window, but that is not available here.</p>

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I endorse mandatory ECN support in QUIC.

I see that there's now an internet-draft on this subject:
(https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-johansson-quic-ecn-00)

It's debatable if it's better to put the ECE/CWR bits in the ACK frame (as the draft suggests) or in some newly-liberated public flags.

As an added feature/bug, depending on your perspective, service providers interested in enforcing fairness or bandwidth limits could use ECN bits as fairly clean way to do this. With TCP, a common flow-control tool is the receive window, but that is not available here.

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<p>I endorse mandatory ECN support in QUIC.</p>
<p>I see that there's now an internet-draft on this subject:<br>
(<a href=3D"https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-johansson-quic-ecn-00">https:=
//tools.ietf.org/html/draft-johansson-quic-ecn-00</a>)</p>
<p>It's debatable if it's better to put the ECE/CWR bits in the ACK frame (=
as the draft suggests) or in some newly-liberated public flags.</p>
<p>As an added feature/bug, depending on your perspective, service provider=
s interested in enforcing fairness or bandwidth limits could use ECN bits a=
s fairly clean way to do this. With TCP, a common flow-control tool is the =
receive window, but that is not available here.</p>

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In Mirja's Management draft:
[https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-kuehlewind-quic-appman-00#section-3](url)

> [EDITOR'S NOTE: the addition of a simple packet number echo would
   allow passive RTT measurement and partial passive downstream loss/
   reordering measurement.  Packet number echo can be sampled at the
   echo-side (i.e. one-in-N packets or 1/p packets can carry an echo)
   for efficiency tradeoff, if necessary.]

I endorse this idea. Service providers are very interesting in measuring their users' quality of experience and this is one key thing we can expose to enable that. On the face of it, it seems that the privacy hit is marginal.

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<p>In Mirja's Management draft:<br>
<a href="url">https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-kuehlewind-quic-appman-00#section-3</a></p>
<blockquote>
<p>[EDITOR'S NOTE: the addition of a simple packet number echo would<br>
allow passive RTT measurement and partial passive downstream loss/<br>
reordering measurement.  Packet number echo can be sampled at the<br>
echo-side (i.e. one-in-N packets or 1/p packets can carry an echo)<br>
for efficiency tradeoff, if necessary.]</p>
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<p>I endorse this idea. Service providers are very interesting in measuring their users' quality of experience and this is one key thing we can expose to enable that. On the face of it, it seems that the privacy hit is marginal.</p>

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Closed #247.

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If stream flow control is staying, then of course it's not stream zero.  There's also #248, which questions the exemption from congestion control.  If we're going the route of saying that the crypto stream is still a regular stream (with all the controls that entails), then stream 1 makes the most sense.

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A convention we used in HTTP/2 with some success is that an endpoint MAY always treat a stream error as connection-fatal if the implementation so chooses.  So any error code is acceptable in a CONNECTION_CLOSE.  I'd advocate for that, at least.

And why isn't GOAWAY mentioned?

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  Branch: refs/heads/more_error_codes
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Having gone through the list in #19, almost all of them are host-local or duplicative of error codes we already have (e.g. if the error space is shared, we don't need both `QUIC_TOO_MANY_OPEN_STREAMS` and `QUIC_REFUSED_STREAM`, though we can debate which is the clearer name).  This adds the two that appear to be unique; if there are others that belong in the core docs, please argue for them.

Closes #19.
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  * Two error codes from the Chromium RST_STREAM enum

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    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (6)

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<p>Having gone through the list in <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/19" class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/19" data-id="191252504" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-permission-text="Issue title is private">#19</a>, almost all of them are host-local or duplicative of error codes we already have (e.g. if the error space is shared, we don't need both <code>QUIC_TOO_MANY_OPEN_STREAMS</code> and <code>QUIC_REFUSED_STREAM</code>, though we can debate which is the clearer name).  This adds the two that appear to be unique; if there are others that belong in the core docs, please argue for them.</p>
<p>Closes <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/19" class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/19" data-id="191252504" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-permission-text="Issue title is private">#19</a>.</p>

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<h4>Commit Summary</h4>
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  <li>Two error codes from the Chromium RST_STREAM enum</li>
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<h4>File Changes</h4>
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    <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/270/files#diff-0">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>
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In #263 it was observed that this is a potentially useful property, allowing an endpoint to limit the number of pushes that it might receive.

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We really need to start reaping these, rather than adding more, but until we've started the process, bring it on.

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  Branch: refs/heads/master
  Home:   https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts
  Commit: 2b24854b6bd7a1cb28437c891bf21e8b8e460622
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/2b24854b6bd7a1cb28437c891bf21e8b8e460622
  Author: Mike Bishop <michbish@microsoft.com>
  Date:   2017-02-08 (Wed, 08 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Two error codes from the Chromium RST_STREAM enum


  Commit: 79eb6ccad089c335f72d3c5d58258e66883c216c
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/79eb6ccad089c335f72d3c5d58258e66883c216c
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-09 (Thu, 09 Feb 2017)

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  Merge pull request #270 from quicwg/more_error_codes

Add two error codes from Chromium's RST_STREAM enum


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  Branch: refs/heads/no-reservation-needed
  Home:   https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts
  Commit: 570fbd5eec8a0c01903b5e52be59faaaf211b50d
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/570fbd5eec8a0c01903b5e52be59faaaf211b50d
  Author: Mike Bishop <michbish@microsoft.com>
  Date:   2017-02-08 (Wed, 08 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-http.md

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  Remove the Reserved flag bits



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Fixes #127, but we may want to go further.
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-- Commit Summary --

  * Remove the Reserved flag bits

-- File Changes --

    M draft-ietf-quic-http.md (13)

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<p>Fixes <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/127" class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/127" data-id="199121074" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-permission-text="Issue title is private">#127</a>, but we may want to go further.</p>

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<h4>Commit Summary</h4>
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  <li>Remove the Reserved flag bits</li>
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<h4>File Changes</h4>
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    <strong>M</strong>
    <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/271/files#diff-0">draft-ietf-quic-http.md</a>
    (13)
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This needs to be written down.  I think that the best outcome would be to include BOTH a TLS alert and a QUIC error code (in a CONNECTION_CLOSE frame).

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<p>This needs to be written down.  I think that the best outcome would be to include BOTH a TLS alert and a QUIC error code (in a CONNECTION_CLOSE frame).</p>

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Note that without reserving HTTP/2 bits, no header type defines more than one flag bit.  I think the acrobatics required to save that extra byte might be more than it's worth, but the option exists.

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<p>Note that without reserving HTTP/2 bits, no header type defines more than one flag bit.  I think the acrobatics required to save that extra byte might be more than it's worth, but the option exists.</p>

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@lucas-clemente, I don't see the issue here.  If the peer receiving the REQUEST_RST hasn't finished sending, then it has to send a RST_STREAM.  Where does the "again" come from?  And why would that cause the other peer to stop sending data?

The point of this PR is that the streams in each direction get FIN'd/RST independently of each other, and the fact that I sent you a REQUEST_RST and you complied doesn't say anything about the data I'm sending to you.

Can you clarify?

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I'm hoping that the sequence number is just vestigial, but you're correct.  I'll add text that allows them to wrap.  If you have 2^16 outstanding HEADERS frames in a given direction, you're likely doing something wrong.

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  Branch: refs/heads/wrapping_hpack
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Fixes #173, though I would like to ultimately get rid of the Sequence number altogether.
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  * Wrap Sequence, for now

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<p>Fixes <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/173" class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/173" data-id="201708147" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-permission-text="Issue title is private">#173</a>, though I would like to ultimately get rid of the Sequence number altogether.</p>

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Fixes #176, but I'm hoping we can find a cleaner way to do this.
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-- Commit Summary --

  * Restrict RST to data streams, require replay

-- File Changes --

    M draft-ietf-quic-http.md (15)

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<p>Fixes <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/176" class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/176" data-id="201776330" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-permission-text="Issue title is private">#176</a>, but I'm hoping we can find a cleaner way to do this.</p>

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<h4>Commit Summary</h4>
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  <li>Restrict RST to data streams, require replay</li>
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#246 merged; #247 rejected.  I think this issue is completed; @mnot, can you confirm and close if you agree, or tag appropriately if not?

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  Branch: refs/heads/stk_part2
  Home:   https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts
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  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-09 (Thu, 09 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

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LGTM.

I'm in two minds about the flags as well.  The argument for removing them is that it avoids another point of extensibility that isn't heavily used.  Given that we have two uses currently, we might manage by consuming more frame types.

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<p>LGTM.</p>
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> @@ -201,6 +201,21 @@ additional framing. Note that a request or response without a body will cause
 this stream to be half-closed in the corresponding direction without
 transferring data.
 
+Because the message control stream contains HPACK data which manipulates
+connection-level state, the message control stream MUST NOT be closed with a
+stream-level error.  If an implementation chooses to reject a request with a
+QUIC error code, it MUST trigger a RST_STREAM on the data stream only.  An
+implementation MAY close (FIN) a message control stream without completing a
+full HTTP message if the data stream has been abruptly closed.  Data on message
+control streams MUST be fully consumed, or the connection terminated.
+
+If a message control stream is terminated abruptly by the transport layer (e.g.
+with QUIC_TOO_MANY_OPEN_STREAMS), any frames already sent on that stream MUST
+be re-played on another message control stream as soon as the maximum number of
+streams permits.  If the implementation no longer requires the response to this
+request, it MAY abruptly terminate the corresponding data stream at the same
+time.

I think that this is easier to handle with: "If a message control stream is terminated by a RST_STREAM *for any reason*, an endpoint MUST terminate the connection with a YOU_SCREWED_UP error code."  Attempting to rescue the situation isn't worth the effort and aside from exceeding concurrent stream limits during 0-RTT.

I don't think that there is any reason that the transport would legitimately need to close a stream on its own.  Even in that case, that should really be done by the application.

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<p><b>@martinthomson</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/274#pullrequestreview-20896552">draft-ietf-quic-http.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -201,6 +201,21 @@ additional framing. Note that a request or response without a body will cause
 this stream to be half-closed in the corresponding direction without
 transferring data.
 
+Because the message control stream contains HPACK data which manipulates
+connection-level state, the message control stream MUST NOT be closed with a
+stream-level error.  If an implementation chooses to reject a request with a
+QUIC error code, it MUST trigger a RST_STREAM on the data stream only.  An
+implementation MAY close (FIN) a message control stream without completing a
+full HTTP message if the data stream has been abruptly closed.  Data on message
+control streams MUST be fully consumed, or the connection terminated.
+
+If a message control stream is terminated abruptly by the transport layer (e.g.
+with QUIC_TOO_MANY_OPEN_STREAMS), any frames already sent on that stream MUST
+be re-played on another message control stream as soon as the maximum number of
+streams permits.  If the implementation no longer requires the response to this
+request, it MAY abruptly terminate the corresponding data stream at the same
+time.
</pre>
<p>I think that this is easier to handle with: "If a message control stream is terminated by a RST_STREAM <em>for any reason</em>, an endpoint MUST terminate the connection with a YOU_SCREWED_UP error code."  Attempting to rescue the situation isn't worth the effort and aside from exceeding concurrent stream limits during 0-RTT.</p>
<p>I don't think that there is any reason that the transport would legitimately need to close a stream on its own.  Even in that case, that should really be done by the application.</p>

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Addressed by #106.  See also #267 as a follow-up.

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<p>Addressed by <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/106" class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/106" data-id="197907354" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-permission-text="Issue title is private">#106</a>.  See also <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/267" class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/267" data-id="206092803" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-permission-text="Issue title is private">#267</a> as a follow-up.</p>

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> @@ -201,6 +201,21 @@ additional framing. Note that a request or response without a body will cause
 this stream to be half-closed in the corresponding direction without
 transferring data.
 
+Because the message control stream contains HPACK data which manipulates
+connection-level state, the message control stream MUST NOT be closed with a
+stream-level error.  If an implementation chooses to reject a request with a
+QUIC error code, it MUST trigger a RST_STREAM on the data stream only.  An
+implementation MAY close (FIN) a message control stream without completing a
+full HTTP message if the data stream has been abruptly closed.  Data on message
+control streams MUST be fully consumed, or the connection terminated.
+
+If a message control stream is terminated abruptly by the transport layer (e.g.
+with QUIC_TOO_MANY_OPEN_STREAMS), any frames already sent on that stream MUST
+be re-played on another message control stream as soon as the maximum number of
+streams permits.  If the implementation no longer requires the response to this
+request, it MAY abruptly terminate the corresponding data stream at the same
+time.

@martinthomson I love the idea of always tearing down, but I'm a bit nervous about the interactions with stream limits and REFUSED streams. You mention 0-RTT in your comment. Is your idea that 0-RTT streams may need to be retried and not result in the connection being closed and might have to do a retry dance?

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/274">draft-ietf-quic-http.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -201,6 +201,21 @@ additional framing. Note that a request or response without a body will cause
 this stream to be half-closed in the corresponding direction without
 transferring data.
 
+Because the message control stream contains HPACK data which manipulates
+connection-level state, the message control stream MUST NOT be closed with a
+stream-level error.  If an implementation chooses to reject a request with a
+QUIC error code, it MUST trigger a RST_STREAM on the data stream only.  An
+implementation MAY close (FIN) a message control stream without completing a
+full HTTP message if the data stream has been abruptly closed.  Data on message
+control streams MUST be fully consumed, or the connection terminated.
+
+If a message control stream is terminated abruptly by the transport layer (e.g.
+with QUIC_TOO_MANY_OPEN_STREAMS), any frames already sent on that stream MUST
+be re-played on another message control stream as soon as the maximum number of
+streams permits.  If the implementation no longer requires the response to this
+request, it MAY abruptly terminate the corresponding data stream at the same
+time.
</pre>
<p><a href="https://github.com/martinthomson" class="user-mention">@martinthomson</a> I love the idea of always tearing down, but I'm a bit nervous about the interactions with stream limits and REFUSED streams. You mention 0-RTT in your comment. Is your idea that 0-RTT streams may need to be retried and not result in the connection being closed and might have to do a retry dance?</p>

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  Branch: refs/heads/stk_part2
  Home:   https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts
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  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-09 (Thu, 09 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Note that the server sends address validation tokens to itself.  Closes #118.



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martinthomson commented on this pull request.



> @@ -201,6 +201,21 @@ additional framing. Note that a request or response without a body will cause
 this stream to be half-closed in the corresponding direction without
 transferring data.
 
+Because the message control stream contains HPACK data which manipulates
+connection-level state, the message control stream MUST NOT be closed with a
+stream-level error.  If an implementation chooses to reject a request with a
+QUIC error code, it MUST trigger a RST_STREAM on the data stream only.  An
+implementation MAY close (FIN) a message control stream without completing a
+full HTTP message if the data stream has been abruptly closed.  Data on message
+control streams MUST be fully consumed, or the connection terminated.
+
+If a message control stream is terminated abruptly by the transport layer (e.g.
+with QUIC_TOO_MANY_OPEN_STREAMS), any frames already sent on that stream MUST
+be re-played on another message control stream as soon as the maximum number of
+streams permits.  If the implementation no longer requires the response to this
+request, it MAY abruptly terminate the corresponding data stream at the same
+time.

Anyone who exceeds a stream limit is violating the protocol (we need to address the issue of squishiness in that limit).  And refusing a stream is easy: refuse the data stream.  If the concern is that headers will consume stream limit until they resolve, I think that's a feature, not a bug.

0-RTT streams that end up exceeding some server limit can be refused by hitting the data stream.  The control stream can be left to run to completion.  If the server can't handle that (because the limits have been reduced by more than 50% perhaps), then it probably should reject 0-RTT.

A server might have to reject the connection (after all, it might only discover this sort of dire condition after foolishly/optimistically accepting 0-RTT), but that means that a new connection will have to created by the client.  Mike already has text about needing to retry in #236.  In the end, I think that sort of retry is something clients that attempt 0-RTT will just have to deal with.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/274">draft-ietf-quic-http.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -201,6 +201,21 @@ additional framing. Note that a request or response without a body will cause
 this stream to be half-closed in the corresponding direction without
 transferring data.
 
+Because the message control stream contains HPACK data which manipulates
+connection-level state, the message control stream MUST NOT be closed with a
+stream-level error.  If an implementation chooses to reject a request with a
+QUIC error code, it MUST trigger a RST_STREAM on the data stream only.  An
+implementation MAY close (FIN) a message control stream without completing a
+full HTTP message if the data stream has been abruptly closed.  Data on message
+control streams MUST be fully consumed, or the connection terminated.
+
+If a message control stream is terminated abruptly by the transport layer (e.g.
+with QUIC_TOO_MANY_OPEN_STREAMS), any frames already sent on that stream MUST
+be re-played on another message control stream as soon as the maximum number of
+streams permits.  If the implementation no longer requires the response to this
+request, it MAY abruptly terminate the corresponding data stream at the same
+time.
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<p>Anyone who exceeds a stream limit is violating the protocol (we need to address the issue of squishiness in that limit).  And refusing a stream is easy: refuse the data stream.  If the concern is that headers will consume stream limit until they resolve, I think that's a feature, not a bug.</p>
<p>0-RTT streams that end up exceeding some server limit can be refused by hitting the data stream.  The control stream can be left to run to completion.  If the server can't handle that (because the limits have been reduced by more than 50% perhaps), then it probably should reject 0-RTT.</p>
<p>A server might have to reject the connection (after all, it might only discover this sort of dire condition after foolishly/optimistically accepting 0-RTT), but that means that a new connection will have to created by the client.  Mike already has text about needing to retry in <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/236" class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/236" data-id="203277078" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-permission-text="Issue title is private">#236</a>.  In the end, I think that sort of retry is something clients that attempt 0-RTT will just have to deal with.</p>

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This completes the changes that were started in #120.  As agreed at the interim, TLS will host the source address validation packets, but the transport will be responsible for constructing and validating the token.  I've expanded the detailed interface section to cover this.

There's some finessing in the text around which part adds the integrity check, with the recognition that - because the token will likely be put alongside other TLS information that needs integrity checks - TLS is probably the best place to do that.

This builds on #122 because to do otherwise would be to invite merge conflict hell.  Once that is merged, this will be much easier to review.

Closes #52.
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-- Commit Summary --

  * Add definition of transport parameters to -transport
  * Define the extension in -tls
  * Add a stub iana section, fix dead references
  * Remove COPT, add rule about unknown extensions
  * Reference WINDOW_UPDATE properly
  * Remove extra sentence on ignoring unknown parameters
  * editorial
  * Correct reference
  * Move crypto requirements to head of section
  * Wrap note
  * Remove QUIC-Crypto reference
  * Transport parameter are available when the handshake completes
  * Simplify the section on new parameters
  * Add IANA considerations
  * Add transport parameters to the handshake interface in TLS
  * Fix formatting
  * Proofread version negotiation and correct errors
  * Use hex, add initial registry contents
  * Transport parameters during 0-RTT are either remembered or defaults
  * Expanding and refining source/client address validation
  * Note that the server sends address validation tokens to itself.  Closes #118.

-- File Changes --

    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md (219)
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (489)

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<p>This completes the changes that were started in <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/120" class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/120" data-id="198673534" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-permission-text="Issue title is private">#120</a>.  As agreed at the interim, TLS will host the source address validation packets, but the transport will be responsible for constructing and validating the token.  I've expanded the detailed interface section to cover this.</p>
<p>There's some finessing in the text around which part adds the integrity check, with the recognition that - because the token will likely be put alongside other TLS information that needs integrity checks - TLS is probably the best place to do that.</p>
<p>This builds on <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/122" class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/122" data-id="198678499" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-permission-text="Issue title is private">#122</a> because to do otherwise would be to invite merge conflict hell.  Once that is merged, this will be much easier to review.</p>
<p>Closes <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/52" class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/52" data-id="192458095" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-permission-text="Issue title is private">#52</a>.</p>

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<h4>Commit Summary</h4>
<ul>
  <li>Add definition of transport parameters to -transport</li>
  <li>Define the extension in -tls</li>
  <li>Add a stub iana section, fix dead references</li>
  <li>Remove COPT, add rule about unknown extensions</li>
  <li>Reference WINDOW_UPDATE properly</li>
  <li>Remove extra sentence on ignoring unknown parameters</li>
  <li>editorial</li>
  <li>Correct reference</li>
  <li>Move crypto requirements to head of section</li>
  <li>Wrap note</li>
  <li>Remove QUIC-Crypto reference</li>
  <li>Transport parameter are available when the handshake completes</li>
  <li>Simplify the section on new parameters</li>
  <li>Add IANA considerations</li>
  <li>Add transport parameters to the handshake interface in TLS</li>
  <li>Fix formatting</li>
  <li>Proofread version negotiation and correct errors</li>
  <li>Use hex, add initial registry contents</li>
  <li>Transport parameters during 0-RTT are either remembered or defaults</li>
  <li>Expanding and refining source/client address validation</li>
  <li>Note that the server sends address validation tokens to itself.  Closes #118.</li>
</ul>

<h4>File Changes</h4>
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  <li>
    <strong>M</strong>
    <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/275/files#diff-0">draft-ietf-quic-tls.md</a>
    (219)
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  <li>
    <strong>M</strong>
    <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/275/files#diff-1">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>
    (489)
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  Branch: refs/heads/stk_part2
  Home:   https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts
  Commit: 65c9296eccc1ab931385e072e098b09d34a61c6f
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  Date:   2017-02-09 (Thu, 09 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Branch: refs/heads/stk_part2
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  Branch: refs/heads/internal_padding
  Home:   https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts
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      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/b2b779404e0ec8661bce8f864f1c7b993b4860a4
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  Date:   2017-02-09 (Thu, 09 Feb 2017)

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Closes #158.
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-- Commit Summary --

  * PADDING is a single 0 octet

-- File Changes --

    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (13)

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<p>Closes <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/158" class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/158" data-id="200957150" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-permission-text="Issue title is private">#158</a>.</p>

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<h4>Commit Summary</h4>
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  <li>PADDING is a single 0 octet</li>
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I don't know if there's an open issue for this, but I think the only frames we want to send unencrypted are stream frames for stream 1 and ack frames.  Those we believe are necessary and even ack frames have special rules, as we've discussed.

We could send an unencrypted connection close frame, but I'm having a hard time seeing cases when a TLS alert wouldn't be better.   And in other cases, a public reset is sufficient.

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rules, as we've discussed.</p>
<p>We could send an unencrypted connection close frame, but I'm having a =
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CONNECTION_CLOSE should definitely be allowed. There are any number of insane things a client could do which would cause the server to want to tear down the connection. When this happens, it's very valuable for the client to see the error code from the server. 

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@ianswett, there's lots of *text* on the point of what can be unencrypted, and some issues on the finer points (like the issue around acknowledgments).

As you say, the TLS alert is going to be useful for diagnosis if nothing else, but if we are to maintain our layering, we need a CONNECTION_CLOSE as well.  Luckily, they can both be carried in a single packet.

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This was handled as part of #254.

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I may be missing it, but when I skimmed and searched in the transport draft, I couldn't find anywhere it said what frame types may be sent without encryption.

I'm happy to have both TLS alerts and connection closes if they're useful.  Ryan reminded me there have been some cases when unencrypted connection close errors were able to provide valuable insight to debug an issue.

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#106 was merged, so this is now done.

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<p><a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/106" class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/106" data-id="197907354" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-permission-text="Issue title is private">#106</a> was merged, so this is now done.</p>

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The TLS draft has all that text.  Currently.

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<p>The TLS draft has all that text.  Currently.</p>

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  Branch: refs/heads/move_frame_lengths
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I considered a more violent change here, but decided to start with the simplest move.

I really want to rewrite the ACK section, it's a little obtuse as it is.  I think that it could be made a lot clearer.

Closes #62.
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  * Move length-determining fields to the start of STREAM and ACK

-- File Changes --

    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (31)

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<p>I considered a more violent change here, but decided to start with the simplest move.</p>
<p>I really want to rewrite the ACK section, it's a little obtuse as it is.  I think that it could be made a lot clearer.</p>
<p>Closes <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/62" class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/62" data-id="192995336" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-permission-text="Issue title is private">#62</a>.</p>

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<h4>Commit Summary</h4>
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  <li>Move length-determining fields to the start of STREAM and ACK</li>
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  Branch: refs/heads/grease_version_negotiation
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I realize that I stuck this on top of #122.  That's convenient because the new text benefits from being able to reference some of that text.  It makes this diff look awful for the moment though (at least until #122 lands).

Closes #112.
You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/278

-- Commit Summary --

  * Add definition of transport parameters to -transport
  * Define the extension in -tls
  * Add a stub iana section, fix dead references
  * Remove COPT, add rule about unknown extensions
  * Reference WINDOW_UPDATE properly
  * Remove extra sentence on ignoring unknown parameters
  * editorial
  * Correct reference
  * Move crypto requirements to head of section
  * Wrap note
  * Remove QUIC-Crypto reference
  * Transport parameter are available when the handshake completes
  * Simplify the section on new parameters
  * Add IANA considerations
  * Add transport parameters to the handshake interface in TLS
  * Fix formatting
  * Proofread version negotiation and correct errors
  * Use hex, add initial registry contents
  * Transport parameters during 0-RTT are either remembered or defaults
  * Grease version negotiation

-- File Changes --

    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md (67)
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (434)

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<p>I realize that I stuck this on top of <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/122" class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/122" data-id="198678499" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-permission-text="Issue title is private">#122</a>.  That's convenient because the new text benefits from being able to reference some of that text.  It makes this diff look awful for the moment though (at least until <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/122" class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/122" data-id="198678499" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-permission-text="Issue title is private">#122</a> lands).</p>
<p>Closes <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/112" class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/112" data-id="198619012" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-permission-text="Issue title is private">#112</a>.</p>

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<h4>Commit Summary</h4>
<ul>
  <li>Add definition of transport parameters to -transport</li>
  <li>Define the extension in -tls</li>
  <li>Add a stub iana section, fix dead references</li>
  <li>Remove COPT, add rule about unknown extensions</li>
  <li>Reference WINDOW_UPDATE properly</li>
  <li>Remove extra sentence on ignoring unknown parameters</li>
  <li>editorial</li>
  <li>Correct reference</li>
  <li>Move crypto requirements to head of section</li>
  <li>Wrap note</li>
  <li>Remove QUIC-Crypto reference</li>
  <li>Transport parameter are available when the handshake completes</li>
  <li>Simplify the section on new parameters</li>
  <li>Add IANA considerations</li>
  <li>Add transport parameters to the handshake interface in TLS</li>
  <li>Fix formatting</li>
  <li>Proofread version negotiation and correct errors</li>
  <li>Use hex, add initial registry contents</li>
  <li>Transport parameters during 0-RTT are either remembered or defaults</li>
  <li>Grease version negotiation</li>
</ul>

<h4>File Changes</h4>
<ul>
  <li>
    <strong>M</strong>
    <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/278/files#diff-0">draft-ietf-quic-tls.md</a>
    (67)
  </li>
  <li>
    <strong>M</strong>
    <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/278/files#diff-1">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>
    (434)
  </li>
</ul>

<h4>Patch Links:</h4>
<ul>
  <li><a href='https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/278.patch'>https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/278.patch</a></li>
  <li><a href='https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/278.diff'>https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/278.diff</a></li>
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ianswett approved this pull request.

Let's do this for now, we can go through and simplify other things later.

> @@ -920,28 +920,29 @@ A STREAM frame is shown below.
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Huh, we have 8 different offsets.  And they 're not even evenly spaced.  That's cute.  

Jana and I can clean that up in our draft, though.

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<p><b>@ianswett</b> approved this pull request.</p>

<p>Let's do this for now, we can go through and simplify other things later.</p><hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/277#pullrequestreview-21078130">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -920,28 +920,29 @@ A STREAM frame is shown below.
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<p>Huh, we have 8 different offsets.  And they 're not even evenly spaced.  That's cute.</p>
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Something that came up in Tokyo was the need for service providers (i.e. middleboxes) to troubleshoot performance issues in the network. Packet Number Echo (#269) could partially address this problem., particularly for RTT measurement. But it is imperfect for measuring other problems.

As someone who has spent quite a bit of time debugging TCP packet traces from service providers, there are two other things that would help greatly in answering the question "why is my QUIC slow", without significantly compromising privacy. To do both would take two bits in the public flags, which may be available depending on how some other issues turn out.

(1) QUIC endpoints MAY set the BLOCKED bit if they include a BLOCKED frame in the packet. If you want to get fancy, you could have a different bit for "stream blocked" and "connection blocked", but flow control issues are a common cause of traffic pauses with no other discernable symptoms.
(2) QUIC endpoints MUST (SHOULD?) set the RETRANS flag in any packet that contains retransmitted data. This would help operators identify that a connection is slowing down because it is responding to loss, and would allow for very reliable loss statistics for the downstream network.

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<p>Something that came up in Tokyo was the need for service providers (i.e. middleboxes) to troubleshoot performance issues in the network. Packet Number Echo (<a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/269" class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/269" data-id="206298017" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-permission-text="Issue title is private">#269</a>) could partially address this problem., particularly for RTT measurement. But it is imperfect for measuring other problems.</p>
<p>As someone who has spent quite a bit of time debugging TCP packet traces from service providers, there are two other things that would help greatly in answering the question "why is my QUIC slow", without significantly compromising privacy. To do both would take two bits in the public flags, which may be available depending on how some other issues turn out.</p>
<p>(1) QUIC endpoints MAY set the BLOCKED bit if they include a BLOCKED frame in the packet. If you want to get fancy, you could have a different bit for "stream blocked" and "connection blocked", but flow control issues are a common cause of traffic pauses with no other discernable symptoms.<br>
(2) QUIC endpoints MUST (SHOULD?) set the RETRANS flag in any packet that contains retransmitted data. This would help operators identify that a connection is slowing down because it is responding to loss, and would allow for very reliable loss statistics for the downstream network.</p>

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The blocked bit is an interesting idea.

The retrans bit has a problem, which is that a QUIC connection may not retransmit the same thing or may not retransmit anything at all.  However, if we make it a LOSS_DETECTION bit, and say it mean "this bit means I detected a packet loss", I believe it conveys the exact signal you're hoping to achieve, and typically it would end up being the retansmit bit.

<Warning, bad idea ahead> If we were feeling clever, we could abuse the packet echo bit for the loss detection case by specifying half the packet number space as valid for echo and the other half for delta to lost packet number.  The only reason this would be useful is to allow us to create time-sequence diagrams without decrypting the payload.

The worst part about abusing the packet echo bit is that consuming extra bytes to indicate a packet number means we can fit less data into packets, and may cause a retransmission to be split into two packets.  I suspect this may be enough hassle implementations wouldn't bother implementing it.

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<p>The blocked bit is an interesting idea.</p>
<p>The retrans bit has a problem, which is that a QUIC connection may not=
 retransmit the same thing or may not retransmit anything at all.  Howeve=
r, if we make it a LOSS_DETECTION bit, and say it mean "this bit means I =
detected a packet loss", I believe it conveys the exact signal you're hop=
ing to achieve, and typically it would end up being the retansmit bit.</p=
>
<p>&lt;Warning, bad idea ahead&gt; If we were feeling clever, we could ab=
use the packet echo bit for the loss detection case by specifying half th=
e packet number space as valid for echo and the other half for delta to l=
ost packet number.  The only reason this would be useful is to allow us t=
o create time-sequence diagrams without decrypting the payload.</p>
<p>The worst part about abusing the packet echo bit is that consuming ext=
ra bytes to indicate a packet number means we can fit less data into pack=
ets, and may cause a retransmission to be split into two packets.  I susp=
ect this may be enough hassle implementations wouldn't bother implementin=
g it.</p>

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ianswett commented on this pull request.

Thanks, updated with one follow up comment on protected terminology.

> @@ -213,14 +213,17 @@ or negotiated in order to better suit a variety of environments.
   a packet lost.  In fraction of an RTT.
 
 * kMinTLPTimeout: 10ms
- Minimum time in the future a tail loss probe alarm may be set for.
+  Minimum time in the future a tail loss probe alarm may be set for.

I tweaked it to say default as you said, but the extra : looked odd in markdown and text, so I didn't add it.  

Is there an example formatting you were trying to achieve I should copy?

> @@ -392,6 +357,72 @@ Pseudocode for OnPacketAcked follows:
      sent_packets.remove(acked_packet);
 ~~~
 
+## Setting the Loss Detection Alarm
+
+QUIC loss detection uses a single alarm for all timer-based loss detection.  The
+duration of the alarm is based on the alarm's mode, which is set in the packet
+and timer events further below.  The function SetLossDetectionAlarm defined
+below shows how the single timer is set based on the alarm mode.
+
+### Handshake Packets
+
+The initial client hello has no prior RTT sample.  A client SHOULD remember
+the previous RTT it observed when resumption is attempted and use that for an
+initial RTT value.  If no previous RTT is available, the initial RTT defaults
+to 200ms.  Once an RTT measurement is taken, it MUST replace initial_rtt.
+
+The client hello is retransmitted via a timer, similar to a tail loss probe, but

* I'll remove the TLP/delayed ack wording.  It was there for motivation, but seems to be confusing more than helping.
* Changed client hello to initial flight
* Client vs server does matter in the case of stateless rejects, but I'll word that in as a special case where the connection 'terminates immediately' once the reject is sent.

I don't believe any of the TCP specs worry about randomization of handshake timers, so I don't think it's a large issue in practice.  

> @@ -392,6 +357,72 @@ Pseudocode for OnPacketAcked follows:
      sent_packets.remove(acked_packet);
 ~~~
 
+## Setting the Loss Detection Alarm
+
+QUIC loss detection uses a single alarm for all timer-based loss detection.  The
+duration of the alarm is based on the alarm's mode, which is set in the packet
+and timer events further below.  The function SetLossDetectionAlarm defined
+below shows how the single timer is set based on the alarm mode.
+
+### Handshake Packets
+
+The initial client hello has no prior RTT sample.  A client SHOULD remember
+the previous RTT it observed when resumption is attempted and use that for an
+initial RTT value.  If no previous RTT is available, the initial RTT defaults
+to 200ms.  Once an RTT measurement is taken, it MUST replace initial_rtt.
+
+The client hello is retransmitted via a timer, similar to a tail loss probe, but

Removed.

> +
+The initial client hello has no prior RTT sample.  A client SHOULD remember
+the previous RTT it observed when resumption is attempted and use that for an
+initial RTT value.  If no previous RTT is available, the initial RTT defaults
+to 200ms.  Once an RTT measurement is taken, it MUST replace initial_rtt.
+
+The client hello is retransmitted via a timer, similar to a tail loss probe, but
+it is expected client hellos will be acked immediately or a handshake packet will
+be sent immediately, so delayed acks do not need to be compensated for.  As such,
+it is always retransmitted at 2x the initial_rtt or smoothed_rtt.
+
+Server handshake packets may be sent based on a similar timer, or triggered by
+receipt of another client hello.  
+
+Version negotiation packets are always stateless, and MUST be sent once per
+client hello, and may be sent in response to 0RTT packets.

Thanks done.

> @@ -414,6 +445,15 @@ acknowledged.  DetectLostPackets is called every time there is a new largest
 packet or if the loss detection alarm fires the previous largest acked packet is
 supplied.
 
+### Handshake Packets
+
+The receiver MUST not trust an unencryped ack for encrypted packets.  The receiver

SG, will ignore the entire packet.

> @@ -414,6 +445,15 @@ acknowledged.  DetectLostPackets is called every time there is a new largest
 packet or if the loss detection alarm fires the previous largest acked packet is
 supplied.
 
+### Handshake Packets
+
+The receiver MUST not trust an unencryped ack for encrypted packets.  The receiver

So that'd be unprotected packets?  Or is there a better term?

> @@ -431,7 +471,7 @@ Pseudocode for DetectLostPackets follows:
                 acked_packet.packet_number - reordering_threshold)
          lost_packets.insert(unacked_packet.packet_number);
      return lost_packets;
-~~~
+~~~ 

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<p><b>@ianswett</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

<p>Thanks, updated with one follow up comment on protected terminology.</p><hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/266#pullrequestreview-20800622">draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -213,14 +213,17 @@ or negotiated in order to better suit a variety of environments.
   a packet lost.  In fraction of an RTT.
 
 * kMinTLPTimeout: 10ms
- Minimum time in the future a tail loss probe alarm may be set for.
+  Minimum time in the future a tail loss probe alarm may be set for.
</pre>
<p>I tweaked it to say default as you said, but the extra : looked odd in markdown and text, so I didn't add it.</p>
<p>Is there an example formatting you were trying to achieve I should copy?</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/266#pullrequestreview-20800622">draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -392,6 +357,72 @@ Pseudocode for OnPacketAcked follows:
      sent_packets.remove(acked_packet);
 ~~~
 
+## Setting the Loss Detection Alarm
+
+QUIC loss detection uses a single alarm for all timer-based loss detection.  The
+duration of the alarm is based on the alarm&#39;s mode, which is set in the packet
+and timer events further below.  The function SetLossDetectionAlarm defined
+below shows how the single timer is set based on the alarm mode.
+
+### Handshake Packets
+
+The initial client hello has no prior RTT sample.  A client SHOULD remember
+the previous RTT it observed when resumption is attempted and use that for an
+initial RTT value.  If no previous RTT is available, the initial RTT defaults
+to 200ms.  Once an RTT measurement is taken, it MUST replace initial_rtt.
+
+The client hello is retransmitted via a timer, similar to a tail loss probe, but
</pre>
<ul>
<li>I'll remove the TLP/delayed ack wording.  It was there for motivation, but seems to be confusing more than helping.</li>
<li>Changed client hello to initial flight</li>
<li>Client vs server does matter in the case of stateless rejects, but I'll word that in as a special case where the connection 'terminates immediately' once the reject is sent.</li>
</ul>
<p>I don't believe any of the TCP specs worry about randomization of handshake timers, so I don't think it's a large issue in practice.</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/266#pullrequestreview-20800622">draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -392,6 +357,72 @@ Pseudocode for OnPacketAcked follows:
      sent_packets.remove(acked_packet);
 ~~~
 
+## Setting the Loss Detection Alarm
+
+QUIC loss detection uses a single alarm for all timer-based loss detection.  The
+duration of the alarm is based on the alarm&#39;s mode, which is set in the packet
+and timer events further below.  The function SetLossDetectionAlarm defined
+below shows how the single timer is set based on the alarm mode.
+
+### Handshake Packets
+
+The initial client hello has no prior RTT sample.  A client SHOULD remember
+the previous RTT it observed when resumption is attempted and use that for an
+initial RTT value.  If no previous RTT is available, the initial RTT defaults
+to 200ms.  Once an RTT measurement is taken, it MUST replace initial_rtt.
+
+The client hello is retransmitted via a timer, similar to a tail loss probe, but
</pre>
<p>Removed.</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/266#pullrequestreview-20800622">draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +
+The initial client hello has no prior RTT sample.  A client SHOULD remember
+the previous RTT it observed when resumption is attempted and use that for an
+initial RTT value.  If no previous RTT is available, the initial RTT defaults
+to 200ms.  Once an RTT measurement is taken, it MUST replace initial_rtt.
+
+The client hello is retransmitted via a timer, similar to a tail loss probe, but
+it is expected client hellos will be acked immediately or a handshake packet will
+be sent immediately, so delayed acks do not need to be compensated for.  As such,
+it is always retransmitted at 2x the initial_rtt or smoothed_rtt.
+
+Server handshake packets may be sent based on a similar timer, or triggered by
+receipt of another client hello.  
+
+Version negotiation packets are always stateless, and MUST be sent once per
+client hello, and may be sent in response to 0RTT packets.
</pre>
<p>Thanks done.</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/266#pullrequestreview-20800622">draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -414,6 +445,15 @@ acknowledged.  DetectLostPackets is called every time there is a new largest
 packet or if the loss detection alarm fires the previous largest acked packet is
 supplied.
 
+### Handshake Packets
+
+The receiver MUST not trust an unencryped ack for encrypted packets.  The receiver
</pre>
<p>SG, will ignore the entire packet.</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/266#pullrequestreview-20800622">draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -414,6 +445,15 @@ acknowledged.  DetectLostPackets is called every time there is a new largest
 packet or if the loss detection alarm fires the previous largest acked packet is
 supplied.
 
+### Handshake Packets
+
+The receiver MUST not trust an unencryped ack for encrypted packets.  The receiver
</pre>
<p>So that'd be unprotected packets?  Or is there a better term?</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/266#pullrequestreview-20800622">draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -431,7 +471,7 @@ Pseudocode for DetectLostPackets follows:
                 acked_packet.packet_number - reordering_threshold)
          lost_packets.insert(unacked_packet.packet_number);
      return lost_packets;
-~~~
+~~~ 
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<p>Done</p>

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LOSS_DETECTION sounds good, though we have to set the bit for each lost packet in a burst loss, or we have the same problem of incomplete data. So in effect, this is the same as the "RETRANS" bit except we have to find a packet to put it on for unretransmittable packets.

The "bad idea" sounds complicated, but I'm open to discussing it.

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<p>LOSS_DETECTION sounds good, though we have to set the bit for each lost =
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Yes, I agree, blocked it interesting. I didn't think about blocked bit yet but I'm also not sure if I understand the use case fully (see below). 

All in all, my first reaction, however, in-line with ian's comment about naming of the retrans/loss bit, is that this exposes the wrong semantics. Rather than 'just' exposing anything we do in the transport, we should consider what's the information the network actually wants/needs.

In case of loss/retrans, this is probably inline of what ConEx is/was trying to do. We called this whole-path-congestion and it was only based on ECN/CE (not loss) because loss was already exposed in TCP when monitoring retransmissions. I've been also thinking about exposing the ECN counters and potentially a loss counter, however, I wasn't sure if the overhead is worth the win. So the signal the network actually needs is, I think, 'I saw congestion and that's the reason why I'm slowing down (congestion control)'; I guess this could be accounted by using one bit for both together loss or ECN/CE (if the packet rate is high enough to signal multiple losses in a timely manner).

Regarding the blocked bit, I think this is related. My understanding of the use case is that you (the network) sees that a flow is slowing down/sending less data than previously or than possible and the network wants to distinguish the case where it's limited by the endpoint (flow control) or there is something wrong in the network. 
However, there are actually (at least?) three cases how a connection can be limited:
1) limited by the application itself: there is simply no more data to send
2) limited by the flow control in the endpoint's transport
3) limited by a bottleneck in the network (and respectively congestion window)
I guess what you'd like to expose it the difference between 3 and 1/2, right? Or would it be also helpful to expose the difference between 1 and 2 e.g. for wireshark like debugging at the endpoint? Then I guess we would need two bits...


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<p>Yes, I agree, blocked it interesting. I didn't think about blocked bit y=
et but I'm also not sure if I understand the use case fully (see below).</p>
<p>All in all, my first reaction, however, in-line with ian's comment about=
 naming of the retrans/loss bit, is that this exposes the wrong semantics. =
Rather than 'just' exposing anything we do in the transport, we should cons=
ider what's the information the network actually wants/needs.</p>
<p>In case of loss/retrans, this is probably inline of what ConEx is/was tr=
ying to do. We called this whole-path-congestion and it was only based on E=
CN/CE (not loss) because loss was already exposed in TCP when monitoring re=
transmissions. I've been also thinking about exposing the ECN counters and =
potentially a loss counter, however, I wasn't sure if the overhead is worth=
 the win. So the signal the network actually needs is, I think, 'I saw cong=
estion and that's the reason why I'm slowing down (congestion control)'; I =
guess this could be accounted by using one bit for both together loss or EC=
N/CE (if the packet rate is high enough to signal multiple losses in a time=
ly manner).</p>
<p>Regarding the blocked bit, I think this is related. My understanding of =
the use case is that you (the network) sees that a flow is slowing down/sen=
ding less data than previously or than possible and the network wants to di=
stinguish the case where it's limited by the endpoint (flow control) or the=
re is something wrong in the network.<br>
However, there are actually (at least?) three cases how a connection can be=
 limited:</p>
<ol>
<li>limited by the application itself: there is simply no more data to send=
</li>
<li>limited by the flow control in the endpoint's transport</li>
<li>limited by a bottleneck in the network (and respectively congestion win=
dow)<br>
I guess what you'd like to expose it the difference between 3 and 1/2, righ=
t? Or would it be also helpful to expose the difference between 1 and 2 e.g=
. for wireshark like debugging at the endpoint? Then I guess we would need =
two bits...</li>
</ol>

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martinduke approved this pull request.

Looks good to me, except for the one issue.

>  the previous RTT it observed when resumption is attempted and use that for an
 initial RTT value.  If no previous RTT is available, the initial RTT defaults
 to 200ms.  Once an RTT measurement is taken, it MUST replace initial_rtt.
 
-The client hello is retransmitted via a timer, similar to a tail loss probe, but
-it is expected client hellos will be acked immediately or a handshake packet will
-be sent immediately, so delayed acks do not need to be compensated for.  As such,
-it is always retransmitted at 2x the initial_rtt or smoothed_rtt.
+Endpoints MUST retransmit handshake packets if not acknowledged(1) within a

The (1) was my reference to a footnote in my comment. I think "not acknowledged" has to extend to be "not acknowledged and the next handshake message didn't arrive" but I'm not sure how to word that.

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<p><b>@martinduke</b> approved this pull request.</p>

<p>Looks good to me, except for the one issue.</p><hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/266#pullrequestreview-21104017">draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt;  the previous RTT it observed when resumption is attempted and use that for an
 initial RTT value.  If no previous RTT is available, the initial RTT defaults
 to 200ms.  Once an RTT measurement is taken, it MUST replace initial_rtt.
 
-The client hello is retransmitted via a timer, similar to a tail loss probe, but
-it is expected client hellos will be acked immediately or a handshake packet will
-be sent immediately, so delayed acks do not need to be compensated for.  As such,
-it is always retransmitted at 2x the initial_rtt or smoothed_rtt.
+Endpoints MUST retransmit handshake packets if not acknowledged(1) within a
</pre>
<p>The (1) was my reference to a footnote in my comment. I think "not acknowledged" has to extend to be "not acknowledged and the next handshake message didn't arrive" but I'm not sure how to word that.</p>

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488f617  Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md


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ianswett commented on this pull request.

Minor update, PTAL.

>  the previous RTT it observed when resumption is attempted and use that for an
 initial RTT value.  If no previous RTT is available, the initial RTT defaults
 to 200ms.  Once an RTT measurement is taken, it MUST replace initial_rtt.
 
-The client hello is retransmitted via a timer, similar to a tail loss probe, but
-it is expected client hellos will be acked immediately or a handshake packet will
-be sent immediately, so delayed acks do not need to be compensated for.  As such,
-it is always retransmitted at 2x the initial_rtt or smoothed_rtt.
+Endpoints MUST retransmit handshake packets if not acknowledged(1) within a

Thanks, I removed it and tweaked the text about exponential backoff again.  Currently in the pseudocode(and the real code), all timers have their exponential backoff reset when an ack is received.  The idea being, if you're getting some packets through, based the retransmission time on RTT.  If you're not getting any data through, exponentially backoff because your RTT estimate may be wrong, and to avoid overloading the network.

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<p><b>@ianswett</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

<p>Minor update, PTAL.</p><hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/266#pullrequestreview-21109157">draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt;  the previous RTT it observed when resumption is attempted and use that for an
 initial RTT value.  If no previous RTT is available, the initial RTT defaults
 to 200ms.  Once an RTT measurement is taken, it MUST replace initial_rtt.
 
-The client hello is retransmitted via a timer, similar to a tail loss probe, but
-it is expected client hellos will be acked immediately or a handshake packet will
-be sent immediately, so delayed acks do not need to be compensated for.  As such,
-it is always retransmitted at 2x the initial_rtt or smoothed_rtt.
+Endpoints MUST retransmit handshake packets if not acknowledged(1) within a
</pre>
<p>Thanks, I removed it and tweaked the text about exponential backoff again.  Currently in the pseudocode(and the real code), all timers have their exponential backoff reset when an ack is received.  The idea being, if you're getting some packets through, based the retransmission time on RTT.  If you're not getting any data through, exponentially backoff because your RTT estimate may be wrong, and to avoid overloading the network.</p>

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So I'm still concerned that, as written, this requires to retransmit the client hello because we got a server hello instead of an ack. Unless I've missed something, and we're requiring ACKs, which would make the protocol quite a bit cleaner.

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I think the blocked bit is less useful than I originally thought.  I think connections are in two states of the world:
1) Not blocked
2) Blocked, but you'd have to have access to the encrypted context to understand why.
  - ie: A stream is blocked because of a slow server backend?  

TCP flow control is not truly end-to-end, unlike QUIC.  And so I think it means it needs to be debugged end to end.  Also, the path has no control over flow control in QUIC, so I don't think it provides actionable data for a network operator.

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> Also, the path has no control over flow control in QUIC, so I don't think it provides actionable data for a network operator.

I agree that there is no direct action that the operator can take, but it is a very clear signal that there is no action to take. It is useful as a "stop worrying" bit.

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Add some text on handshake state transitions cancelling handshake frames.



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@ianswett pushed 1 commit.

99eb478  Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md


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Good point, that's a bit awkward.  You're right, it'd be best if we could just rely on ack frames.  I added some text on crypto state transitions, but I'm not sure I like it.  For now, we could just require they be properly acked, since we can include acks in crypto packets.

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<p>Good point, that's a bit awkward.  You're right, it'd be best if we coul=
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> @@ -213,14 +213,17 @@ or negotiated in order to better suit a variety of environments.
   a packet lost.  In fraction of an RTT.
 
 * kMinTLPTimeout: 10ms
- Minimum time in the future a tail loss probe alarm may be set for.
+  Minimum time in the future a tail loss probe alarm may be set for.

The extra ':' is correct -- it's Markdown formatting for a [definition list](https://kramdown.gettalong.org/syntax.html#definition-lists).

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<p><b>@MikeBishop</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/266">draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -213,14 +213,17 @@ or negotiated in order to better suit a variety of environments.
   a packet lost.  In fraction of an RTT.
 
 * kMinTLPTimeout: 10ms
- Minimum time in the future a tail loss probe alarm may be set for.
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> We called this whole-path-congestion and it was only based on ECN/CE (not loss) because loss was already exposed in TCP when monitoring retransmissions

I think there is a case that the ECE/CWR bits should be in the public flags, rather than the ACK frame, and this discussion is (sort of) happening in the ECN issue #68.

> However, there are actually (at least?) three cases how a connection can be limited:
> 
> 1. limited by the application itself: there is simply no more data to send
> 2. limited by the flow control in the endpoint's transport
> 3. limited by a bottleneck in the network (and respectively congestion window)

#1 is hard to detect, even in TCP, and tends not to bring customer complaints. So I think it's really down to 2 or 3, and the BLOCKED bit would handle this.


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martinthomson commented on this pull request.



> @@ -920,28 +920,29 @@ A STREAM frame is shown below.
  0                   1                   2                   3
  0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1
 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
+|       [Data Length (16)]      |
++-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
 |                    Stream ID (8/16/24/32)                   ...
 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
 |                Offset (0/16/24/32/40/48/56/64)              ...

Yeah, that's a separate issue.  I can understand why it is that way.  That is, there isn't much value in an 8-bit offset given that you are likely to cram > 8 octets in a single packet, which is the most common case for needing offsets.  That said, I think that we would want to discuss what options make sense.

I can see arguments for 0, 16, and 32 and 64 would avoid the need for rollover calculations.  The other options seem like overoptimizing. varint encoding would be preferable in that case.

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<p><b>@martinthomson</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/277">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -920,28 +920,29 @@ A STREAM frame is shown below.
  0                   1                   2                   3
  0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1
 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
+|       [Data Length (16)]      |
++-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
 |                    Stream ID (8/16/24/32)                   ...
 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
 |                Offset (0/16/24/32/40/48/56/64)              ...
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<p>Yeah, that's a separate issue.  I can understand why it is that way.  That is, there isn't much value in an 8-bit offset given that you are likely to cram &gt; 8 octets in a single packet, which is the most common case for needing offsets.  That said, I think that we would want to discuss what options make sense.</p>
<p>I can see arguments for 0, 16, and 32 and 64 would avoid the need for rollover calculations.  The other options seem like overoptimizing. varint encoding would be preferable in that case.</p>

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> @@ -213,14 +213,17 @@ or negotiated in order to better suit a variety of environments.
   a packet lost.  In fraction of an RTT.
 
 * kMinTLPTimeout: 10ms
- Minimum time in the future a tail loss probe alarm may be set for.
+  Minimum time in the future a tail loss probe alarm may be set for.

Note that the '*' at the start of the definition title line prevents kramdown from detecting it as a definition list.  You will note its absence in my example.

You also need to reformat the whole list consistent or, as you say, it looks odd.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/266">draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -213,14 +213,17 @@ or negotiated in order to better suit a variety of environments.
   a packet lost.  In fraction of an RTT.
 
 * kMinTLPTimeout: 10ms
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<p>Note that the '*' at the start of the definition title line prevents kramdown from detecting it as a definition list.  You will note its absence in my example.</p>
<p>You also need to reformat the whole list consistent or, as you say, it looks odd.</p>

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> @@ -414,6 +445,15 @@ acknowledged.  DetectLostPackets is called every time there is a new largest
 packet or if the loss detection alarm fires the previous largest acked packet is
 supplied.
 
+### Handshake Packets
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+The receiver MUST not trust an unencryped ack for encrypted packets.  The receiver

That is right.  "unprotected" isn't great, but I don't have anything better.

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<p><b>@martinthomson</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/266">draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -414,6 +445,15 @@ acknowledged.  DetectLostPackets is called every time there is a new largest
 packet or if the loss detection alarm fires the previous largest acked packet is
 supplied.
 
+### Handshake Packets
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+The receiver MUST not trust an unencryped ack for encrypted packets.  The receiver
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<p>That is right.  "unprotected" isn't great, but I don't have anything better.</p>

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I'm sure I'm just confused about how the process is expected to work. This is not terribly surprising :)

Do I understand you correctly that since this issue was discussed in Tokyo, no consensus from the list is needed? I'm sorry for being dense. 

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Since we decided not to increase the stream number space, is this still an issue?

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<p>Since we decided not to increase the stream number space, is this still an issue?</p>

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  Branch: refs/heads/no_reservations
  Home:   https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts
  Commit: 4ab99fb767db1bbbcbe0ee916c0c1dd104a1b0c0
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  Date:   2017-02-10 (Fri, 10 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-http.md
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  We don't need no reservations



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This PR is based on the outcome of the discussion in #174.  The observation there is that using stream X implicitly opens stream X-2; since all streams are opened in sequence, it must just be that the packets that mention stream X-2 got delayed or lost somehow.

Once you accept that, it's also reasonable to allow a different order of stream creation (the point at which numbers are allocated) and stream *use* (when you send packets on a stream).  This neatly addresses the issue whereby server push can promise use of streams, but not use them in the order in which they were promised.

There's a catch here, and it's not one that was introduced by this change, if a server promises more streams than the client permits in its concurrent streams limit, the server cannot use streams beyond the limit.  I'll open a bug on that.

Closes #182 - that removed only a few of the application actions.  This removes all of them.
Closes #174.
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  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/280

-- Commit Summary --

  * We don't need no reservations

-- File Changes --

    M draft-ietf-quic-http.md (6)
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (103)

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<p>This PR is based on the outcome of the discussion in <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/174" class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/174" data-id="201713986" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-permission-text="Issue title is private">#174</a>.  The observation there is that using stream X implicitly opens stream X-2; since all streams are opened in sequence, it must just be that the packets that mention stream X-2 got delayed or lost somehow.</p>
<p>Once you accept that, it's also reasonable to allow a different order of stream creation (the point at which numbers are allocated) and stream <em>use</em> (when you send packets on a stream).  This neatly addresses the issue whereby server push can promise use of streams, but not use them in the order in which they were promised.</p>
<p>There's a catch here, and it's not one that was introduced by this change, if a server promises more streams than the client permits in its concurrent streams limit, the server cannot use streams beyond the limit.  I'll open a bug on that.</p>
<p>Closes <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/182" class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/182" data-id="202067985" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-permission-text="Issue title is private">#182</a> - that removed only a few of the application actions.  This removes all of them.<br>
Closes <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/174" class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/174" data-id="201713986" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-permission-text="Issue title is private">#174</a>.</p>

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<h4>Commit Summary</h4>
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  <li>We don&#39;t need no reservations</li>
</ul>

<h4>File Changes</h4>
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    <strong>M</strong>
    <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/280/files#diff-0">draft-ietf-quic-http.md</a>
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    <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/280/files#diff-1">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>
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<h4>Patch Links:</h4>
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  <li><a href='https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/280.patch'>https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/280.patch</a></li>
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In HTTP/2, streams states were modified at the point that a PUSH_PROMISE was sent, but actually using that stream could be deferred.  The "reserved" state didn't count toward concurrency limit, those streams would count only when packets were first sent.

If the client had a low concurrency limit, that could mean that use of promised streams had to be deferred until active streams could be closed.  QUIC maintains a similar model, but that model is incompatible with QUIC.  In HTTP/2, any promised streams can be opened without creating any ambiguity about the state of other reserved streams.  HTTP/2 also allowed endpoints to skip stream numbers.

In QUIC the lack of ordering between streams (a feature!) forces us to insist on having a strict monotonic sequence of stream numbers.  If a stream number appears to be skipped, that is only because a packet using it has not yet arrived.  This ensures much simpler accounting for streams and avoids adding latency to stream creation.

This creates a problem for promises.  Servers cannot use streams in any order, only those streams within the window of streams permitted by the client concurrency limit are free to be used.

For example, a client could have an MSPC of 2.  That allows just one server push at a time.  A server that wants to push two resources could advertise one push on streams 4+6 and the other on 8+10.  However, unlike in HTTP/2 the server cannot start the second push first.  Opening stream 8 would imply that streams 4 and 6 are also open, violating the concurrency limit.

It's not clear that this problem needs a solution, but it is a functional regression that we should at least consider and make a conscious decision to accept.

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<p>In HTTP/2, streams states were modified at the point that a PUSH_PROMISE was sent, but actually using that stream could be deferred.  The "reserved" state didn't count toward concurrency limit, those streams would count only when packets were first sent.</p>
<p>If the client had a low concurrency limit, that could mean that use of promised streams had to be deferred until active streams could be closed.  QUIC maintains a similar model, but that model is incompatible with QUIC.  In HTTP/2, any promised streams can be opened without creating any ambiguity about the state of other reserved streams.  HTTP/2 also allowed endpoints to skip stream numbers.</p>
<p>In QUIC the lack of ordering between streams (a feature!) forces us to insist on having a strict monotonic sequence of stream numbers.  If a stream number appears to be skipped, that is only because a packet using it has not yet arrived.  This ensures much simpler accounting for streams and avoids adding latency to stream creation.</p>
<p>This creates a problem for promises.  Servers cannot use streams in any order, only those streams within the window of streams permitted by the client concurrency limit are free to be used.</p>
<p>For example, a client could have an MSPC of 2.  That allows just one server push at a time.  A server that wants to push two resources could advertise one push on streams 4+6 and the other on 8+10.  However, unlike in HTTP/2 the server cannot start the second push first.  Opening stream 8 would imply that streams 4 and 6 are also open, violating the concurrency limit.</p>
<p>It's not clear that this problem needs a solution, but it is a functional regression that we should at least consider and make a conscious decision to accept.</p>

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  Branch: refs/heads/MSPC_zero
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I've chosen to make stream 1 count toward MSPC on the same basis that we decided not to move crypto to stream 0: no special cases.

Closes #201.
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  * Stream 1 counts toward MSPC

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    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (9)

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<p>I've chosen to make stream 1 count toward MSPC on the same basis that we decided not to move crypto to stream 0: no special cases.</p>
<p>Closes <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/201" class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/201" data-id="202447688" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-permission-text="Issue title is private">#201</a>.</p>

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In writing this up, it's clear that we've a bunch more work to do in this area.
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<p>In writing this up, it's clear that we've a bunch more work to do in this area.</p>

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The text currently says:

> Once a client receives a packet from the server with the VERSION flag unset, it MUST ignore the flag in subsequently received packets.

I don't know how to interpret this.  What should a client do if it receives a packet with the VERSION flag set after completing version negotiation?  Maybe should should mandate ignoring the packet not just the flag.

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<p>The text currently says:</p>
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<p>Once a client receives a packet from the server with the VERSION flag unset, it MUST ignore the flag in subsequently received packets.</p>
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<p>I don't know how to interpret this.  What should a client do if it receives a packet with the VERSION flag set after completing version negotiation?  Maybe should should mandate ignoring the packet not just the flag.</p>

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>From the document:

> DISCUSS: Should the receiver be required to enforce this rule that the sender MUST NOT exceed the inflight limit? Specifically, should the receiver drop packets that are received outside this window?

As a reminder, we require that the packet number size be determined based on the number of outstanding (undefined, but assumed to be packets that are sent but not yet acknowledged).

A requirement like this would be virtually impossible to enforce.  The receiver would have to know what of its acknowledgments had arrived at the sender in order to know what was outstanding when the sender generated the packet.  That's only possible in a narrow set of cases.

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<p>DISCUSS: Should the receiver be required to enforce this rule that the sender MUST NOT exceed the inflight limit? Specifically, should the receiver drop packets that are received outside this window?</p>
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<p>As a reminder, we require that the packet number size be determined based on the number of outstanding (undefined, but assumed to be packets that are sent but not yet acknowledged).</p>
<p>A requirement like this would be virtually impossible to enforce.  The receiver would have to know what of its acknowledgments had arrived at the sender in order to know what was outstanding when the sender generated the packet.  That's only possible in a narrow set of cases.</p>

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Ignoring the packet is the correct behavior, and is what current implementations do.
Otherwise it would be easy for an attacker to interfere with a connection, since version negotiation packets are not authenticated.

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The text for packet number size calculation says:

> a QUIC sender MUST NOT have more than 2^(packet_number_size - 2) in flight

What it means to be "in flight" is not defined.  It seems like it might mean unacknowledged, not including packets that were marked as "lost" by the recovery algorithm.  The difference between the current packet number and the highest acknowledged packet number might also work.

The more that I think about this, the more that I'm convinced that this is made up of 90% fudge.  Neither of the above definitions for "in flight" is perfect and the constant (4) is pure fudge.

What we might ideally want to ask before determining how big the packet number encoding needs to be is how far out of order a packet could possibly get during transit - and at what point we consider excessive reordering to be considered loss.  If we assume either definition, the current mandate assumes that we want to recover from delay of 4 times the RTT (with the first definition, add four times the reordering threshold).

That seems excessive.  Given that we should be getting at least an ACK per RTT in these cases, that much delay will likely result in retransmission several times over unless all of the ACK packets are similarly delayed.

While we might make some recommendations, "MUST" doesn't seem correct.  I suspect that we need data on reordering (or packet delays) under real-world conditions before we could make a better recommendation.

I think that we need to make the following changes: 
1. define "in flight" (or use a new definition based on RTT and the reordering threshold)
2. make this a recommendation rather than a requirement
3. update the values in the recommendation based on data
4. maybe advise being conservative: spending an extra byte or two occasionally might be wise if it means avoiding packets being lost

This issue should wait for the outcome of the header discussions, it could become moot.

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<p>The text for packet number size calculation says:</p>
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<p>a QUIC sender MUST NOT have more than 2^(packet_number_size - 2) in flight</p>
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<p>What it means to be "in flight" is not defined.  It seems like it might mean unacknowledged, not including packets that were marked as "lost" by the recovery algorithm.  The difference between the current packet number and the highest acknowledged packet number might also work.</p>
<p>The more that I think about this, the more that I'm convinced that this is made up of 90% fudge.  Neither of the above definitions for "in flight" is perfect and the constant (4) is pure fudge.</p>
<p>What we might ideally want to ask before determining how big the packet number encoding needs to be is how far out of order a packet could possibly get during transit - and at what point we consider excessive reordering to be considered loss.  If we assume either definition, the current mandate assumes that we want to recover from delay of 4 times the RTT (with the first definition, add four times the reordering threshold).</p>
<p>That seems excessive.  Given that we should be getting at least an ACK per RTT in these cases, that much delay will likely result in retransmission several times over unless all of the ACK packets are similarly delayed.</p>
<p>While we might make some recommendations, "MUST" doesn't seem correct.  I suspect that we need data on reordering (or packet delays) under real-world conditions before we could make a better recommendation.</p>
<p>I think that we need to make the following changes:</p>
<ol>
<li>define "in flight" (or use a new definition based on RTT and the reordering threshold)</li>
<li>make this a recommendation rather than a requirement</li>
<li>update the values in the recommendation based on data</li>
<li>maybe advise being conservative: spending an extra byte or two occasionally might be wise if it means avoiding packets being lost</li>
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<p>This issue should wait for the outcome of the header discussions, it could become moot.</p>

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Alternative definition that might be even better: the difference between this packet and the lowest packet number that has neither been acknowledged nor declared lost.

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<p>Alternative definition that might be even better: the difference between this packet and the lowest packet number that has neither been acknowledged nor declared lost.</p>

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According to @marten-seemann, they occasionally skip a packet number.  This might mess with congestion control if it is done too often, but it seems like a perfectly reasonable thing to do.  The draft currently forbids this.  Maybe it shouldn't.

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<p>According to <a href="https://github.com/marten-seemann" class="user-mention">@marten-seemann</a>, they occasionally skip a packet number.  This might mess with congestion control if it is done too often, but it seems like a perfectly reasonable thing to do.  The draft currently forbids this.  Maybe it shouldn't.</p>

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  Branch: refs/heads/cleanup_packet_number
  Home:   https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts
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  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-10 (Fri, 10 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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This builds on #283 and it includes fixes the infidelities I noticed but did not fix during the process of creating that PR.

This is intended to be editorial, but it does remove the use of "in flight" as noted in #286.  I have defined "outstanding packets" to be the packets that aren't acknowledged or lost and made the formula count those packets.  I think that's probably not the right thing, and the definition in https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/286#issuecomment-278883235 is probably closer to what is intended, but I was trying my best to avoid changing text and this seemed like the right compromise.

If I'm wrong and this isn't editorial, feel free to tell me what to write so that it can remain so.
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-- Commit Summary --

  * Random initial packet number
  * Rewrite text on packet numbers

-- File Changes --

    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (86)

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<p>This is intended to be editorial, but it does remove the use of "in fl=
ight" as noted in <a href=3D"https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues=
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uicwg/base-drafts/issues/286" data-id=3D"206730190" data-error-text=3D"Fa=
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ren't acknowledged or lost and made the formula count those packets.  I t=
hink that's probably not the right thing, and the definition in <a href=3D=
"https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/286#issuecomment-278883235"=
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/p>
<p>If I'm wrong and this isn't editorial, feel free to tell me what to wr=
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<h4>Commit Summary</h4>
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  <li>Random initial packet number</li>
  <li>Rewrite text on packet numbers</li>
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    <strong>M</strong>
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0">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>
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The draft currently says:

> In this case, an endpoint SHOULD send a Public Reset packet to indicate the failure. 

(This is in the context of discovering that the MTU is too small.)

Given that it doesn't take much to send an authenticated CONNECTION_CLOSE in a packet that won't risk breaking even the minimum IPv4 MTU, I think that the first requirement is crazy.  I would change this to "treat this as a connection error of SOME_ERROR_CODE" either defining a new MTU_TOO_SMALL error code, or reusing an existing one.

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<p>The draft currently says:</p>
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<p>In this case, an endpoint SHOULD send a Public Reset packet to indicate the failure.</p>
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<p>(This is in the context of discovering that the MTU is too small.)</p>
<p>Given that it doesn't take much to send an authenticated CONNECTION_CLOSE in a packet that won't risk breaking even the minimum IPv4 MTU, I think that the first requirement is crazy.  I would change this to "treat this as a connection error of SOME_ERROR_CODE" either defining a new MTU_TOO_SMALL error code, or reusing an existing one.</p>

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> The application SHOULD attempt to use TLS over TCP instead.

(This is in the context of finding that the MTU is too small.)

The text includes a very specific recommendation to use TLS over TCP for one particular case.  This is unwise for two reasons:
1. we don't know if all protocols that build on QUIC will have a TCP over TLS option available to them; DNS over QUIC might be an example of where TLS over TCP is an inadvisable fallback option
2. we should rely on a generic error handling section that includes generic advice about things like falling back to a backup protocol

Marked as editorial, I hope that's not controversial.

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<p>The application SHOULD attempt to use TLS over TCP instead.</p>
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<p>(This is in the context of finding that the MTU is too small.)</p>
<p>The text includes a very specific recommendation to use TLS over TCP for one particular case.  This is unwise for two reasons:</p>
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<li>we don't know if all protocols that build on QUIC will have a TCP over TLS option available to them; DNS over QUIC might be an example of where TLS over TCP is an inadvisable fallback option</li>
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<p>Marked as editorial, I hope that's not controversial.</p>

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> However, since it is possible that an endpoint might only send packets containing ACK frames (or other non-retransmittable frames), the receiving peer MAY send an ACK frame after a reasonable number (currently 20) of such packets have been received.

"currently 20" seems pretty arbitrary.  That smells like something from the Google QUIC implementation.  We should be more concrete about this, if that behaviour even makes sense.

If an endpoint is receiving nothing but ACKs but is sending itself, then acknowledging those ACKs is probably fine.

An endpoint with nothing to say can generate a lot of ACKs over time, but if both endpoints are being quiet other than ACKs, it's probably time to shut up entirely.  Maybe we should say that the peer SHOULD generate an ACK frame only if it has other frame types to send.

Limiting the number of PING frames that a peer will respond to is a separate issue, and may motivate a limit with a number attached to it.


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<p>The text says:</p>
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<p>However, since it is possible that an endpoint might only send packets containing ACK frames (or other non-retransmittable frames), the receiving peer MAY send an ACK frame after a reasonable number (currently 20) of such packets have been received.</p>
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<p>"currently 20" seems pretty arbitrary.  That smells like something from the Google QUIC implementation.  We should be more concrete about this, if that behaviour even makes sense.</p>
<p>If an endpoint is receiving nothing but ACKs but is sending itself, then acknowledging those ACKs is probably fine.</p>
<p>An endpoint with nothing to say can generate a lot of ACKs over time, but if both endpoints are being quiet other than ACKs, it's probably time to shut up entirely.  Maybe we should say that the peer SHOULD generate an ACK frame only if it has other frame types to send.</p>
<p>Limiting the number of PING frames that a peer will respond to is a separate issue, and may motivate a limit with a number attached to it.</p>

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The sender is skipping packet numbers and also doing congestion control, so it shouldn't have any adverse side effects, since it knows which numbers were skipped.

Where is it forbidden in the draft?  In 7.2 it says "A sender MAY intentionally skip packet numbers to introduce entropy into the connection, to avoid opportunistic ack attacks."

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<p>The sender is skipping packet numbers and also doing congestion contro=
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mbers were skipped.</p>
<p>Where is it forbidden in the draft?  In 7.2 it says "A sender MAY inte=
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I would lean towards not enforcing it.  And if one was going to enforce it, there should be a connection close error associated with it, because debugging silent failures would be virtually impossible.

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<p>I would lean towards not enforcing it.  And if one was going to enforce it, there should be a connection close error associated with it, because debugging silent failures would be virtually impossible.</p>

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This proposal sounds like a real boon for zero-copy senders. The cost is greater receiver complexity, which could manifest as lower receiver performance.

A receiver seeing a PADDING frame could hitherto discard the rest of a QUIC packet safely without further consideration and move onto the next packet. With this new approach, it will no longer be safe to do that: the parser must keep parsing 1-byte PADDING frames until it finds a different type of frame, or reaches the end of the packet.

If the PADDING frame included a length, it would be possible to advance a pointer to the start of the next frame in a single parser action. Without a length field, the parser must work through the PADDING frames one by one.

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<p>This proposal sounds like a real boon for zero-copy senders. The cost =
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<p>A receiver seeing a PADDING frame could hitherto discard the rest of a=
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packet. With this new approach, it will no longer be safe to do that: the=
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<p>If the PADDING frame included a length, it would be possible to advanc=
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Nope.

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<p>Closed <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/154" class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/154" data-id="200835903" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-permission-text="Issue title is private">#154</a>.</p>

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Completely agree. I think Public Reset should be used as sparingly as possible. Perhaps only the case when a server receives a packet for a connection ID it has no state for. 

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<p>Completely agree. I think Public Reset should be used as sparingly as possible. Perhaps only the case when a server receives a packet for a connection ID it has no state for.</p>

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"Alternative definition that might be even better: the difference between this packet and the lowest packet number that has neither been acknowledged nor declared lost."

That sounds like a good definition to me. It's simple and clear.

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<p>That sounds like a good definition to me. It's simple and clear.</p>

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That text is definitely unclear. What it's *trying* to say, is that after the client and server have negotiated a version, the client needs to ignore any version negotiation packets its receives. This is because 0-RTT packets sent with the old version may have elicited version negotiation packets which may end up delivered out of order. 

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(It actually is INTER-, because we're not talking about stopping mid-frame to introduce some padding.  We're talking about having padding between frames, where current that's prohibited.)

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<p>(It actually is INTER-, because we're not talking about stopping mid-frame to introduce some padding.  We're talking about having padding between frames, where current that's prohibited.)</p>

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Your nose is correct.  That being said, acking every 20 acks has worked out relatively well, so it may make sense to change this to "the receiving peer SHOULD send an ACK frame after 20 ack only packets."  

If both endpoints are being quiet, the rule that "a receiver MUST NOT generate an ack in response to every packet containing only ACK frames." causes them to stop sending packets quite quickly.  The recommended acking behavior could be specified more explicitly, either here or in the recovery doc, if you think it's warranted.

What's the motivation for limiting PING frames?

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<p>Your nose is correct.  That being said, acking every 20 acks has worked =
out relatively well, so it may make sense to change this to "the receiving =
peer SHOULD send an ACK frame after 20 ack only packets."</p>
<p>If both endpoints are being quiet, the rule that "a receiver MUST NOT ge=
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es them to stop sending packets quite quickly.  The recommended acking beha=
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<p>What's the motivation for limiting PING frames?</p>

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ianswett commented on this pull request.

Nice clarifications.

>  
-* If a sender sets PACKET_NUMBER_SIZE bits to 10, it MUST NOT have more than
-  (2^30) packets in flight.
+To enable unambiguous reconstruction of the packet number, an endpoint MUST use
+a packet number size that is able to represent 4 times more packet numbers than
+the endpoint has currently outstanding.  A packet is outstanding if it sent but
+has neither been acknowledged nor been marked as lost (see {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}).
+As a result, the size of the packet number encoding is at least two more than

size in bits?

> @@ -646,10 +657,10 @@ that the client selected.
 
 When the client receives a Version Negotiation packet from the server, it should
 select an acceptable protocol version.  If the server lists an acceptable
-version, the client selects that version and resends all packets using that
-version. The resent packets MUST use new packet numbers.  These packets MUST
-continue to have the VERSION flag set and MUST include the new negotiated
-protocol version.
+version, the client selects that version and reattempts to created a connection
+using that version.  The client MUST update packet numbers when attempting to

I'm not sure what "client MUST update packet numbers" means?  

I would change "reattempts to created a connection using that version." to "attempts to create a new connection using that version." and then remove this sentence, because I think it's clear a new connection has a new packet number space.  

I think we should specify whether the connection id should be the same?  I believe it should be, to ensure the routing is the same.

We should also specify what happens if the version negotiation packet includes the version you just tried to use.  I believe we should not try again.

>  
-The complete packet number is a 64-bit unsigned number and is used as part of a
-cryptographic nonce for packet encryption.  To reduce the number of bits
-required to represent the packet number over the wire, at most 48 bits of the
-packet number are transmitted over the wire.  A QUIC endpoint MUST NOT reuse a
-complete packet number within the same connection (that is, under the same
-cryptographic keys).  If the total number of packets transmitted in this
-connection reaches 2^64 - 1, the sender MUST close the connection by sending a
+## Packet Numbers
+
+The packet number is a 64-bit unsigned number and is used as part of a
+cryptographic nonce for packet encryption.  Each endpoint maintains a separate
+packet number for sending and receiving.  The packet number for sending MUST
+increase by one after sending any packet.

At least one?

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<p><b>@ianswett</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

<p>Nice clarifications.</p><hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/288#pullrequestreview-21329755">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt;  
-* If a sender sets PACKET_NUMBER_SIZE bits to 10, it MUST NOT have more than
-  (2^30) packets in flight.
+To enable unambiguous reconstruction of the packet number, an endpoint MUST use
+a packet number size that is able to represent 4 times more packet numbers than
+the endpoint has currently outstanding.  A packet is outstanding if it sent but
+has neither been acknowledged nor been marked as lost (see {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}).
+As a result, the size of the packet number encoding is at least two more than
</pre>
<p>size in bits?</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/288#pullrequestreview-21329755">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -646,10 +657,10 @@ that the client selected.
 
 When the client receives a Version Negotiation packet from the server, it should
 select an acceptable protocol version.  If the server lists an acceptable
-version, the client selects that version and resends all packets using that
-version. The resent packets MUST use new packet numbers.  These packets MUST
-continue to have the VERSION flag set and MUST include the new negotiated
-protocol version.
+version, the client selects that version and reattempts to created a connection
+using that version.  The client MUST update packet numbers when attempting to
</pre>
<p>I'm not sure what "client MUST update packet numbers" means?</p>
<p>I would change "reattempts to created a connection using that version." to "attempts to create a new connection using that version." and then remove this sentence, because I think it's clear a new connection has a new packet number space.</p>
<p>I think we should specify whether the connection id should be the same?  I believe it should be, to ensure the routing is the same.</p>
<p>We should also specify what happens if the version negotiation packet includes the version you just tried to use.  I believe we should not try again.</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/288#pullrequestreview-21329755">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt;  
-The complete packet number is a 64-bit unsigned number and is used as part of a
-cryptographic nonce for packet encryption.  To reduce the number of bits
-required to represent the packet number over the wire, at most 48 bits of the
-packet number are transmitted over the wire.  A QUIC endpoint MUST NOT reuse a
-complete packet number within the same connection (that is, under the same
-cryptographic keys).  If the total number of packets transmitted in this
-connection reaches 2^64 - 1, the sender MUST close the connection by sending a
+## Packet Numbers
+
+The packet number is a 64-bit unsigned number and is used as part of a
+cryptographic nonce for packet encryption.  Each endpoint maintains a separate
+packet number for sending and receiving.  The packet number for sending MUST
+increase by one after sending any packet.
</pre>
<p>At least one?</p>

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In this case, using in flight would be wrong if packet numbers were skipped.

However, I think we would prefer "the difference between this packet and the largest acknowledged packet."  We may have smaller packets that are unacknowledged, but the algorithm only relies upon the largest received packet.  I don't think there's a need to talk about packets declared lost in this case, since we're abandoning using in flight in this context.

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<p>In this case, using in flight would be wrong if packet numbers were skip=
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<p>However, I think we would prefer "the difference between this packet and=
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acknowledged, but the algorithm only relies upon the largest received packe=
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Also, this doesn't really become moot even if we adopt a fixed packet number length.  That just means we have a fixed maximum on the gap between the packet currently being sent and the largest acked.

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How was this issue resolved?

I don't understand the premise of the problem here. If you want to build something completely stateless, the only way to do it is ECMP with a consistent hash. You can do that on any packet in the connection and it won't matter. 

But if you're doing anything smarter, you're going to be stateful. You cannot know which server to direct traffic for existing connections to without maintaining state. The state that you need it a table mapping 4-tuple to server for TCP, and you could do the same with connection ID to server for QUIC.

Since you will have this map (this may be the "mostly stateless" part you mention earlier), any received packet that has a connection ID that's missing from the map can create a new entry. You can be smarter about it, but this is a fairly simple and largely effective algorithm that ought to work.

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<p>How was this issue resolved?</p>
<p>I don't understand the premise of the problem here. If you want to build=
 something completely stateless, the only way to do it is ECMP with a consi=
stent hash. You can do that on any packet in the connection and it won't ma=
tter.</p>
<p>But if you're doing anything smarter, you're going to be stateful. You c=
annot know which server to direct traffic for existing connections to witho=
ut maintaining state. The state that you need it a table mapping 4-tuple to=
 server for TCP, and you could do the same with connection ID to server for=
 QUIC.</p>
<p>Since you will have this map (this may be the "mostly stateless" part yo=
u mention earlier), any received packet that has a connection ID that's mis=
sing from the map can create a new entry. You can be smarter about it, but =
this is a fairly simple and largely effective algorithm that ought to work.=
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Given that we're heading towards server-generated connection IDs, I suggest we close this issue.

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<p>Given that we're heading towards server-generated connection IDs, I suggest we close this issue.</p>

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No,=C2=A0you _can_ know which server to direct traffic for existing conne=
ctions to without maintaining state. All you need is something in each pa=
cket you are routing that identifies that server. =C2=A0Hence a server-ge=
nerated ConnectionID for QUIC.
For tcp, there is the sequence number that the server generated during SY=
C/ACK and which is carried in all TCP packets (and ICMP Error packets), e=
xcept for TCP RST. =C2=A0The "mostly stateless" for TCP is due to the nat=
ure of the always-mutating sequence number -- if the connection persists =
long enough, you may need to start keeping state.

The map you are suggesting would need to be a distributed map (it is not =
just one box that is doing all the load balancing). =C2=A0While such a di=
stributed map is possible within one pop, it would be a complex system th=
at must keep nodes synced to a firehouse of changes and be resilient to p=
acket #2 arriving on a different node, while the information about the ro=
uting decision has not yet propagated from the original node.
What's worse, for QUIC, this map would not work for Anycast-based CDNs, s=
ince when you are migrating from your WiFi network to a Mobile network, y=
ou are likely going to be taken to a geographically different Anycast pop=
. Reliably syncing a firehouse of connection establishment/teardown event=
s across pops makes doing the same within a single pop seem easy.
- Igor =

P.S. Consistent Hash can help here but just a little. You can use consist=
ent hash to pick a load balancer machine within a pop. That allows you to=
 limit sharing of state with fewer than all load balancing nodes. But tha=
t cannot be used to route to the backend servers, since you need to consi=
stently route to the correct backend nodes despite of the frequent change=
s in the set of backend nodes available to serve this particular traffic.=


    On Friday, February 10, 2017 7:28 PM, janaiyengar <notifications@gith=
ub.com> wrote:
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How was this issue resolved?I don't understand the premise of the problem=
 here. If you want to build something completely stateless, the only way =
to do it is ECMP with a consistent hash. You can do that on any packet in=
 the connection and it won't matter.But if you're doing anything smarter,=
 you're going to be stateful. You cannot know which server to direct traf=
fic for existing connections to without maintaining state. The state that=
 you need it a table mapping 4-tuple to server for TCP, and you could do =
the same with connection ID to server for QUIC.Since you will have this m=
ap (this may be the "mostly stateless" part you mention earlier), any rec=
eived packet that has a connection ID that's missing from the map can cre=
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No,=C2=A0you _can_ know which server to direct traffic for existing conne=
ctions to without maintaining state. All you need is something in each pa=
cket you are routing that identifies that server. =C2=A0Hence a server-ge=
nerated ConnectionID for QUIC.<br>
For tcp, there is the sequence number that the server generated during SY=
C/ACK and which is carried in all TCP packets (and ICMP Error packets), e=
xcept for TCP RST. =C2=A0The &quot;mostly stateless&quot; for TCP is due =
to the nature of the always-mutating sequence number -- if the connection=
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The map you are suggesting would need to be a distributed map (it is not =
just one box that is doing all the load balancing). =C2=A0While such a di=
stributed map is possible within one pop, it would be a complex system th=
at must keep nodes synced to a firehouse of changes and be resilient to p=
acket #2 arriving on a different node, while the information about the ro=
uting decision has not yet propagated from the original node.<br>
What&#39;s worse, for QUIC, this map would not work for Anycast-based CDN=
s, since when you are migrating from your WiFi network to a Mobile networ=
k, you are likely going to be taken to a geographically different Anycast=
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vents across pops makes doing the same within a single pop seem easy.<br>=

- Igor <br>
P.S. Consistent Hash can help here but just a little. You can use consist=
ent hash to pick a load balancer machine within a pop. That allows you to=
 limit sharing of state with fewer than all load balancing nodes. But tha=
t cannot be used to route to the backend servers, since you need to consi=
stently route to the correct backend nodes despite of the frequent change=
s in the set of backend nodes available to serve this particular traffic.=
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ithub.com&gt; wrote:<br>
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How was this issue resolved?I don&#39;t understand the premise of the pro=
blem here. If you want to build something completely stateless, the only =
way to do it is ECMP with a consistent hash. You can do that on any packe=
t in the connection and it won&#39;t matter.But if you&#39;re doing anyth=
ing smarter, you&#39;re going to be stateful. You cannot know which serve=
r to direct traffic for existing connections to without maintaining state=
. The state that you need it a table mapping 4-tuple to server for TCP, a=
nd you could do the same with connection ID to server for QUIC.Since you =
will have this map (this may be the &quot;mostly stateless&quot; part you=
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@martinthomson Wrote up a public header proposal that implies 4 byte alignment is an important goal of the public header.

Is it necessary, as it does constrain the design space substantially?  And if there are environments it's necessary, is it only a requirement for non-endpoint devices(aka middleboxes), so only applies to the non-protected portion of the packet.

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<p><a href="https://github.com/martinthomson" class="user-mention">@martinthomson</a> Wrote up a public header proposal that implies 4 byte alignment is an important goal of the public header.</p>
<p>Is it necessary, as it does constrain the design space substantially?  And if there are environments it's necessary, is it only a requirement for non-endpoint devices(aka middleboxes), so only applies to the non-protected portion of the packet.</p>

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@martinthomson created a header proposal that provides a fixed 8 byte connection id in a fixed location.  

We need to decide if this is a requirement or a nice to have.

I haven't found any environments it needed to be in a fixed location for all packets, as long as it's easy to determine where it will be from the first byte of the packet.

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<p><a href="https://github.com/martinthomson" class="user-mention">@martinthomson</a> created a header proposal that provides a fixed 8 byte connection id in a fixed location.</p>
<p>We need to decide if this is a requirement or a nice to have.</p>
<p>I haven't found any environments it needed to be in a fixed location for all packets, as long as it's easy to determine where it will be from the first byte of the packet.</p>

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Nope, you are right, I misread.

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<p>Nope, you are right, I misread.</p>

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It probably needs to go further and recommend that the client not change its mind more than once.  That is, if it receives a version negotiation packet that would cause it to select a *third* version, that's reason enough to ignore the packet.

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So the current text recommends throttling back on ACK when you are sending lots of packets.  The 20 packet thing keeps the rate low, but it is too arbitrary.  I can justify sending an ACK when you have other things to send, I can justify slowing the rate of ACK generation when you have nothing of value to acknowledge, but I can't justify the specific number.  Anything above 1 probably has the desired effect.

If you aren't careful, PING can waste time and bandwidth, especially since it demands access to the fast path.  Limiting the number that you will respond to is a DoS mitigation.

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@martinthomson pushed 1 commit.

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<p><a href="https://github.com/martinthomson" class="user-mention">@martinthomson</a> pushed 1 commit.</p>

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That is, if the client picks X and the server returns a version negotiation packet that lists X, then something is badly wrong.  That version negotiation packet needs to be treated like internet-detritus.

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<p>That is, if the client picks X and the server returns a version negotiation packet that lists X, then something is badly wrong.  That version negotiation packet needs to be treated like internet-detritus.</p>

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Given that we have opted to go with #119 universally, it might be reasonable to think that the server could make a proposal for the connection ID on a version negotiation packet.  However, it probably isn't a good idea.  Since version negotiation is stateless, there is less need to have stable routing for this packet.  Echoing the connection ID gives the client better assurance that its initial packet was what generated the response.

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<p>Given that we have opted to go with <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/119" class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/119" data-id="198672930" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-permission-text="Issue title is private">#119</a> universally, it might be reasonable to think that the server could make a proposal for the connection ID on a version negotiation packet.  However, it probably isn't a good idea.  Since version negotiation is stateless, there is less need to have stable routing for this packet.  Echoing the connection ID gives the client better assurance that its initial packet was what generated the response.</p>

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Hmm, not sure if this is a duplicate of #244.

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<p>Hmm, not sure if this is a duplicate of <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/244" class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/244" data-id="203516852" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-permission-text="Issue title is private">#244</a>.</p>

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Note: the obvious way to address this issue is to just change the connection ID.  However, that creates a problem if the new connection ID is sent with a HelloRetryRequest (i.e., stateless reject).  A client that receives a HelloRetryRequest will be unable to verify that the server actually received its packet.  A client can't know if it is reacting to an off-path attacker.  It will only learn later when its handshake falls apart.

If echoing 31 bits of entropy is sufficient, this can be addressed by requiring that the server also ACK the ClientHello.  #283 means that the server would have to have seen the randomized packet number.

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<p>Note: the obvious way to address this issue is to just change the conn=
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I think that we still need to consider this.  The odds are going to be extremely low, because it's only really relevant during version negotiation of the two colliding identifiers.  But we should probably at least acknowledge the problem even if we don't plan to do anything about it.

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The first part ("should a version negotiation packet from the server -- a proposal to the client to change its version -- contain a Server-generated Connection ID?") is a new issue.  On one hand, I agree with you that this seems a bit like a kludge.  On the other hand, stable routing may actually be required by some systems.

Imagine a pop with a load balancer and a number of backends behind it.  One may want to roll out a new experimental version of QUIC on a subset of backends. To do that, the system should ensure that the same server that send a version negotiation packet proposing a new QUIC protocol version actually receives packets using the new version (if the client accepts that new version).  Our mechanism to make sure this happens is to encode the backend ID in the Server-proposed Connection ID.

The second part (proving that the sender of the version negotiation packet is on-path) is a dup of #244.

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  Home:   https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts
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MikeBishop approved this pull request.

For others' reference, the diff can be cleanly viewed [here](https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/278/commits/7bcf44a41979503bae0a0e8941d3131254c797c7).

Looks fine, and I'm happy for servers to do this.  I'm more dubious about clients.

> +
+The design of version negotiation permits a server to avoid maintaining state
+for packets that it rejects in this fashion.  However, when the server generates
+a version negotiation packet, it cannot randomly generate a reserved version
+number.  This is because the server is required to include the same value in its
+transport parameters.  To avoid the selected version number changing during
+connection establishment, the reserved version can be generated as a function of
+values that will be available to the server when later generating its handshake
+packets.
+
+A pseudorandom function that takes client address information (IP and port) and
+the client selected version as input would ensure that there is sufficient
+variability in the values that a server uses.
+
+A client MAY send a packet using a reserved version number.  This can be used to
+solicit a list of supported versions from a server.

Certainly a client MAY... but why would a sane client ever do this?  If you don't know what version a server speaks, you'll pick one that you speak and hope.  That gives you a non-zero chance of success and the same result if the server doesn't support that version.

Including a GREASE value in a list makes some sense.  Selecting a GREASE value as a single point seems like something only test infrastructure will ever do in the real world.

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<p><b>@MikeBishop</b> approved this pull request.</p>

<p>For others' reference, the diff can be cleanly viewed <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/278/commits/7bcf44a41979503bae0a0e8941d3131254c797c7">here</a>.</p>
<p>Looks fine, and I'm happy for servers to do this.  I'm more dubious about clients.</p><hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/278#pullrequestreview-21650673">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +
+The design of version negotiation permits a server to avoid maintaining state
+for packets that it rejects in this fashion.  However, when the server generates
+a version negotiation packet, it cannot randomly generate a reserved version
+number.  This is because the server is required to include the same value in its
+transport parameters.  To avoid the selected version number changing during
+connection establishment, the reserved version can be generated as a function of
+values that will be available to the server when later generating its handshake
+packets.
+
+A pseudorandom function that takes client address information (IP and port) and
+the client selected version as input would ensure that there is sufficient
+variability in the values that a server uses.
+
+A client MAY send a packet using a reserved version number.  This can be used to
+solicit a list of supported versions from a server.
</pre>
<p>Certainly a client MAY... but why would a sane client ever do this?  If you don't know what version a server speaks, you'll pick one that you speak and hope.  That gives you a non-zero chance of success and the same result if the server doesn't support that version.</p>
<p>Including a GREASE value in a list makes some sense.  Selecting a GREASE value as a single point seems like something only test infrastructure will ever do in the real world.</p>

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The answer is no.  That was an emergent property only.

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<p>The answer is no.  That was an emergent property only.</p>

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> +
+The design of version negotiation permits a server to avoid maintaining state
+for packets that it rejects in this fashion.  However, when the server generates
+a version negotiation packet, it cannot randomly generate a reserved version
+number.  This is because the server is required to include the same value in its
+transport parameters.  To avoid the selected version number changing during
+connection establishment, the reserved version can be generated as a function of
+values that will be available to the server when later generating its handshake
+packets.
+
+A pseudorandom function that takes client address information (IP and port) and
+the client selected version as input would ensure that there is sufficient
+variability in the values that a server uses.
+
+A client MAY send a packet using a reserved version number.  This can be used to
+solicit a list of supported versions from a server.

To add to that, if you always use Alt-Svc and the `quic` parameter is always correct, then you will never encounter version negotiation.  That's not good for the ecosystem.

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<p><b>@martinthomson</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/278">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +
+The design of version negotiation permits a server to avoid maintaining state
+for packets that it rejects in this fashion.  However, when the server generates
+a version negotiation packet, it cannot randomly generate a reserved version
+number.  This is because the server is required to include the same value in its
+transport parameters.  To avoid the selected version number changing during
+connection establishment, the reserved version can be generated as a function of
+values that will be available to the server when later generating its handshake
+packets.
+
+A pseudorandom function that takes client address information (IP and port) and
+the client selected version as input would ensure that there is sufficient
+variability in the values that a server uses.
+
+A client MAY send a packet using a reserved version number.  This can be used to
+solicit a list of supported versions from a server.
</pre>
<p>To add to that, if you always use Alt-Svc and the <code>quic</code> parameter is always correct, then you will never encounter version negotiation.  That's not good for the ecosystem.</p>

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> +To reduce the number of bits required to represent the packet number over the
+wire, only the least significant bits of the packet number are transmitted over
+the wire, up to 48 bits.  The actual packet number for each packet is
+reconstructed at the receiver based on the largest packet number received on a
+successfully authenticated packet.
+
+A packet number is decoded by finding the packet number value that is closest to
+the next expected packet.  The next expected packet is the highest received
+packet number plus one.  For example, if the highest successfully authenticated
+packet had a packet number of 0xaa82f30e, then a packet containing a 16-bit
+value of 0x1f94 will be decoded as 0xaa831f94.
+
+To enable unambiguous reconstruction of the packet number, an endpoint MUST use
+a packet number size that is able to represent 4 times more packet numbers than
+the endpoint has currently outstanding.  A packet is outstanding if it sent but
+has neither been acknowledged nor been marked as lost (see {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}).

Do we really want to define "outstanding" by the number of packets w/o ACKs?  I'd rather define it by the number of packet numbers between the current packet number and the earliest packet w/o ACKs.

For a high bandwidth, high latency connection, if I have packet 10 "delayed", but packets 11-1033 have been acked, do I really only have 1 packet "outstanding" and therefore can use the smallest number of bits to encode the following packet number?

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/288#pullrequestreview-21651873">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +To reduce the number of bits required to represent the packet number over the
+wire, only the least significant bits of the packet number are transmitted over
+the wire, up to 48 bits.  The actual packet number for each packet is
+reconstructed at the receiver based on the largest packet number received on a
+successfully authenticated packet.
+
+A packet number is decoded by finding the packet number value that is closest to
+the next expected packet.  The next expected packet is the highest received
+packet number plus one.  For example, if the highest successfully authenticated
+packet had a packet number of 0xaa82f30e, then a packet containing a 16-bit
+value of 0x1f94 will be decoded as 0xaa831f94.
+
+To enable unambiguous reconstruction of the packet number, an endpoint MUST use
+a packet number size that is able to represent 4 times more packet numbers than
+the endpoint has currently outstanding.  A packet is outstanding if it sent but
+has neither been acknowledged nor been marked as lost (see {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}).
</pre>
<p>Do we really want to define "outstanding" by the number of packets w/o ACKs?  I'd rather define it by the number of packet numbers between the current packet number and the earliest packet w/o ACKs.</p>
<p>For a high bandwidth, high latency connection, if I have packet 10 "delayed", but packets 11-1033 have been acked, do I really only have 1 packet "outstanding" and therefore can use the smallest number of bits to encode the following packet number?</p>

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> +
+The design of version negotiation permits a server to avoid maintaining state
+for packets that it rejects in this fashion.  However, when the server generates
+a version negotiation packet, it cannot randomly generate a reserved version
+number.  This is because the server is required to include the same value in its
+transport parameters.  To avoid the selected version number changing during
+connection establishment, the reserved version can be generated as a function of
+values that will be available to the server when later generating its handshake
+packets.
+
+A pseudorandom function that takes client address information (IP and port) and
+the client selected version as input would ensure that there is sufficient
+variability in the values that a server uses.
+
+A client MAY send a packet using a reserved version number.  This can be used to
+solicit a list of supported versions from a server.

Oh, I'm not arguing it wouldn't be good for the ecosystem.  I'm just arguing that no self-interested client will ever do so, because it's incurring a latency penalty to itself.

However, it's an interesting point that if you're making a first-time connection you don't need the connection to come up quickly (because it's an alternative) and if you're making a subsequent connection you'll have cached info from previous actual connections.  That might actually be a good reason to *remove* the hint and say that clients SHOULD start with a reserved version ID if they have no cached info.

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<p><b>@MikeBishop</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/278">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +
+The design of version negotiation permits a server to avoid maintaining state
+for packets that it rejects in this fashion.  However, when the server generates
+a version negotiation packet, it cannot randomly generate a reserved version
+number.  This is because the server is required to include the same value in its
+transport parameters.  To avoid the selected version number changing during
+connection establishment, the reserved version can be generated as a function of
+values that will be available to the server when later generating its handshake
+packets.
+
+A pseudorandom function that takes client address information (IP and port) and
+the client selected version as input would ensure that there is sufficient
+variability in the values that a server uses.
+
+A client MAY send a packet using a reserved version number.  This can be used to
+solicit a list of supported versions from a server.
</pre>
<p>Oh, I'm not arguing it wouldn't be good for the ecosystem.  I'm just arguing that no self-interested client will ever do so, because it's incurring a latency penalty to itself.</p>
<p>However, it's an interesting point that if you're making a first-time connection you don't need the connection to come up quickly (because it's an alternative) and if you're making a subsequent connection you'll have cached info from previous actual connections.  That might actually be a good reason to <em>remove</em> the hint and say that clients SHOULD start with a reserved version ID if they have no cached info.</p>

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> +
+The design of version negotiation permits a server to avoid maintaining state
+for packets that it rejects in this fashion.  However, when the server generates
+a version negotiation packet, it cannot randomly generate a reserved version
+number.  This is because the server is required to include the same value in its
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+connection establishment, the reserved version can be generated as a function of
+values that will be available to the server when later generating its handshake
+packets.
+
+A pseudorandom function that takes client address information (IP and port) and
+the client selected version as input would ensure that there is sufficient
+variability in the values that a server uses.
+
+A client MAY send a packet using a reserved version number.  This can be used to
+solicit a list of supported versions from a server.

If you are creating a connection in response to Alt-Svc, you aren't depending on the connection establishing in any particular time.  Thus, it might make sense to do this with some low probability just to keep the servers honest.

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<p><b>@martinthomson</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/278">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +
+The design of version negotiation permits a server to avoid maintaining state
+for packets that it rejects in this fashion.  However, when the server generates
+a version negotiation packet, it cannot randomly generate a reserved version
+number.  This is because the server is required to include the same value in its
+transport parameters.  To avoid the selected version number changing during
+connection establishment, the reserved version can be generated as a function of
+values that will be available to the server when later generating its handshake
+packets.
+
+A pseudorandom function that takes client address information (IP and port) and
+the client selected version as input would ensure that there is sufficient
+variability in the values that a server uses.
+
+A client MAY send a packet using a reserved version number.  This can be used to
+solicit a list of supported versions from a server.
</pre>
<p>If you are creating a connection in response to Alt-Svc, you aren't depending on the connection establishing in any particular time.  Thus, it might make sense to do this with some low probability just to keep the servers honest.</p>

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In #278, @martinthomson says that clients MAY choose a GREASE value for their initial packet to force version negotiation.  I would argue that no self-interested client will do so if the connection is latency-sensitive, since you incur an RTT, unless the spec has this at a higher level than MAY and with specific timing.

However, for HTTP, bringing up a connection to a new Alternative is not latency-sensitive (because you still have your connection to the original host).  In the case where you're bringing up a connection to an alternative instead of to the origin, you've likely talked to the alternative before.

We could consider dropping the Alt-Svc version hint entirely, and saying that clients SHOULD open with a reserved version unless it has previously connected to the server and remembers a version list.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/278" class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/278" data-id="206399008" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-permission-text="Issue title is private">#278</a>, <a href="https://github.com/martinthomson" class="user-mention">@martinthomson</a> says that clients MAY choose a GREASE value for their initial packet to force version negotiation.  I would argue that no self-interested client will do so if the connection is latency-sensitive, since you incur an RTT, unless the spec has this at a higher level than MAY and with specific timing.</p>
<p>However, for HTTP, bringing up a connection to a new Alternative is not latency-sensitive (because you still have your connection to the original host).  In the case where you're bringing up a connection to an alternative instead of to the origin, you've likely talked to the alternative before.</p>
<p>We could consider dropping the Alt-Svc version hint entirely, and saying that clients SHOULD open with a reserved version unless it has previously connected to the server and remembers a version list.</p>

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Ostensibly, the `quic` parameter is a performance optimization for Alt-Svc.  A client can learn what QUIC version is most likely to succeed and use that version.  That increases the chances that version negotiation succeeds and thereby reduces the chance that the QUIC connection setup costs an extra round trip.

However, alternative services is precisely the point where performance is not critical.  The client already has a perfectly function HTTP/1.1 or HTTP/2 connection to the server.  This is a point where they could afford an additional round trip on connection setup.  @MikeBishop suggested that if we are serious about greasing version negotiation, perhaps we could remove the `quic` parameter from the Alt-Svc header field and force clients to always pick a greased version number for their initial packet.

Advantages: grease more often and version negotiation actually gets a real workout, disadvantages: an extra round trip every time you use Alt-Svc.

This came up in #278.

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<p>Ostensibly, the <code>quic</code> parameter is a performance optimization for Alt-Svc.  A client can learn what QUIC version is most likely to succeed and use that version.  That increases the chances that version negotiation succeeds and thereby reduces the chance that the QUIC connection setup costs an extra round trip.</p>
<p>However, alternative services is precisely the point where performance is not critical.  The client already has a perfectly function HTTP/1.1 or HTTP/2 connection to the server.  This is a point where they could afford an additional round trip on connection setup.  <a href="https://github.com/MikeBishop" class="user-mention">@MikeBishop</a> suggested that if we are serious about greasing version negotiation, perhaps we could remove the <code>quic</code> parameter from the Alt-Svc header field and force clients to always pick a greased version number for their initial packet.</p>
<p>Advantages: grease more often and version negotiation actually gets a real workout, disadvantages: an extra round trip every time you use Alt-Svc.</p>
<p>This came up in <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/278" class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/278" data-id="206399008" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-permission-text="Issue title is private">#278</a>.</p>

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<p>OK, duplicate of <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/296" class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/296" data-id="207384216" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-permission-text="Issue title is private">#296</a>.</p>

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martinthomson commented on this pull request.



> +To reduce the number of bits required to represent the packet number over the
+wire, only the least significant bits of the packet number are transmitted over
+the wire, up to 48 bits.  The actual packet number for each packet is
+reconstructed at the receiver based on the largest packet number received on a
+successfully authenticated packet.
+
+A packet number is decoded by finding the packet number value that is closest to
+the next expected packet.  The next expected packet is the highest received
+packet number plus one.  For example, if the highest successfully authenticated
+packet had a packet number of 0xaa82f30e, then a packet containing a 16-bit
+value of 0x1f94 will be decoded as 0xaa831f94.
+
+To enable unambiguous reconstruction of the packet number, an endpoint MUST use
+a packet number size that is able to represent 4 times more packet numbers than
+the endpoint has currently outstanding.  A packet is outstanding if it sent but
+has neither been acknowledged nor been marked as lost (see {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}).

@igorlord, I agree, as does Ryan.  But I'm trying to keep this PR strictly editorial and I think that this is what the original text is trying to say.  I will create a follow-up PR that makes the change you suggest.

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<p><b>@martinthomson</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/288">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +To reduce the number of bits required to represent the packet number over the
+wire, only the least significant bits of the packet number are transmitted over
+the wire, up to 48 bits.  The actual packet number for each packet is
+reconstructed at the receiver based on the largest packet number received on a
+successfully authenticated packet.
+
+A packet number is decoded by finding the packet number value that is closest to
+the next expected packet.  The next expected packet is the highest received
+packet number plus one.  For example, if the highest successfully authenticated
+packet had a packet number of 0xaa82f30e, then a packet containing a 16-bit
+value of 0x1f94 will be decoded as 0xaa831f94.
+
+To enable unambiguous reconstruction of the packet number, an endpoint MUST use
+a packet number size that is able to represent 4 times more packet numbers than
+the endpoint has currently outstanding.  A packet is outstanding if it sent but
+has neither been acknowledged nor been marked as lost (see {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}).
</pre>
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> +
+The design of version negotiation permits a server to avoid maintaining state
+for packets that it rejects in this fashion.  However, when the server generates
+a version negotiation packet, it cannot randomly generate a reserved version
+number.  This is because the server is required to include the same value in its
+transport parameters.  To avoid the selected version number changing during
+connection establishment, the reserved version can be generated as a function of
+values that will be available to the server when later generating its handshake
+packets.
+
+A pseudorandom function that takes client address information (IP and port) and
+the client selected version as input would ensure that there is sufficient
+variability in the values that a server uses.
+
+A client MAY send a packet using a reserved version number.  This can be used to
+solicit a list of supported versions from a server.

You mean Alt-Svc with no quic parameter.  Yes, that might be worth considering.  I will open an issue.

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<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/278">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +
+The design of version negotiation permits a server to avoid maintaining state
+for packets that it rejects in this fashion.  However, when the server generates
+a version negotiation packet, it cannot randomly generate a reserved version
+number.  This is because the server is required to include the same value in its
+transport parameters.  To avoid the selected version number changing during
+connection establishment, the reserved version can be generated as a function of
+values that will be available to the server when later generating its handshake
+packets.
+
+A pseudorandom function that takes client address information (IP and port) and
+the client selected version as input would ensure that there is sufficient
+variability in the values that a server uses.
+
+A client MAY send a packet using a reserved version number.  This can be used to
+solicit a list of supported versions from a server.
</pre>
<p>You mean Alt-Svc with no quic parameter.  Yes, that might be worth considering.  I will open an issue.</p>

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ae14993  Fix Ian's trailing whitespace


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  Branch: refs/heads/ianswett-patch-3
  Home:   https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts
  Commit: ae14993a65ef726f67127af6432a2a394d35575e
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  Date:   2017-02-13 (Mon, 13 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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-- Commit Summary --

  * Refine retransmission rules

-- File Changes --

    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (23)

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<h4>Commit Summary</h4>
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  <li>Refine retransmission rules</li>
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HelloRetryRequest in TLS 1.3 has a similar problem. My thought there was clients could [with low probability|experimentally after a connection is established|subject to resource limits|insert idea heres] do an experimental key_share-less probe to servers we talk to. Once triggered, if any key_share-less probe fails to connect for any reason, we put the server in some "HelloRetryRequest probation" cache. All connections to hosts on probation will be key_share-less until they can satisfactorily connect with HelloRetryRequest [even if there is a socket open?].

But we haven't gotten to playing with this yet. It might not work. Putting hosts on probation or probing too aggressively can degrade performance, while not being aggressive enough will just look like a flaky failure, which probably won't be effective. I'm hoping there's a middle ground that satisfies both constraints.

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<p>HelloRetryRequest in TLS 1.3 has a similar problem. My thought there was=
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stablished|subject to resource limits|insert idea heres] do an experimental=
 key_share-less probe to servers we talk to. Once triggered, if any key_sha=
re-less probe fails to connect for any reason, we put the server in some "H=
elloRetryRequest probation" cache. All connections to hosts on probation wi=
ll be key_share-less until they can satisfactorily connect with HelloRetryR=
equest [even if there is a socket open?].</p>
<p>But we haven't gotten to playing with this yet. It might not work. Putti=
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Unfortunately, the current state of TLS 1.3 implementations is that HRR isn't consistently implemented, so it's not something you can do right away.  And you are right that flaky doesn't get us what we want.

I am hoping that the development process for QUIC will force early implementations to use version negotiation a lot.  That was what happened in HTTP/2 and I see no reason why that wouldn't happen again here.  That was not the case with TLS 1.3 and HRR, TLS 1.3 implementations without HRR weren't (and aren't) punished.

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In #288, I tried to keep the calculations intact.  This builds on that and changes the calculation to what we agreed on in the discussion on #286.

Closes #286.
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  * Random initial packet number
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  * Redefine the calculation for packet number size in terms of the range of outstanding numbers, not the count

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    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (90)

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/288" class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/288" data-id="206737133" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-permission-text="Issue title is private">#288</a>, I tried to keep the calculations intact.  This builds on that and changes the calculation to what we agreed on in the discussion on <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/286" class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/286" data-id="206730190" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-permission-text="Issue title is private">#286</a>.</p>
<p>Closes <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/286" class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/286" data-id="206730190" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-permission-text="Issue title is private">#286</a>.</p>

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<h4>Commit Summary</h4>
<ul>
  <li>Random initial packet number</li>
  <li>Rewrite text on packet numbers</li>
  <li>Redefine the calculation for packet number size in terms of the range of outstanding numbers, not the count</li>
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    (90)
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I love the idea of being able to GREASE things in QUIC! 

Dropping the version hint is definitely possible, but it has a downside. There will be old clients out there which speaks versions of QUIC that a server no longer supports. As a result, it is desirable for the server to be able to advertise QUIC, but in such a way that it doesn't lure old client to waste bandwidth trying to speak QUIC with an old version that the server will never support.

I'm also not sure that adding an additional RTT to the first QUIC connection from Alt-Svc is not really latency sensitive. We'd noticed in our QUIC deployment that the more requests go over the TCP connection before switching the QUIC, the less effective QUIC is. (Among other things QUIC and TCP end up competing for bandwidth).

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<p>I love the idea of being able to GREASE things in QUIC!</p>
<p>Dropping the version hint is definitely possible, but it has a downside.=
 There will be old clients out there which speaks versions of QUIC that a s=
erver no longer supports. As a result, it is desirable for the server to be=
 able to advertise QUIC, but in such a way that it doesn't lure old client =
to waste bandwidth trying to speak QUIC with an old version that the server=
 will never support.</p>
<p>I'm also not sure that adding an additional RTT to the first QUIC connec=
tion from Alt-Svc is not really latency sensitive. We'd noticed in our QUIC=
 deployment that the more requests go over the TCP connection before switch=
ing the QUIC, the less effective QUIC is. (Among other things QUIC and TCP =
end up competing for bandwidth).</p>

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  Branch: refs/heads/httpq
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Fair points.  I would say that for a background tab (or an ad, or anything else non-critical), I think that I'd be willing to suck up some latency anyway.  And while it might be suboptimal, the occasional use of greasing won't destroy performance in the same way that it might during a reconnect where QUIC is the only thing that is tried.

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Having the client *occasionally* sending a GREASED connection attempt seems quite reasonable. One caveat, of course, is that if we're talking about QUIC in the HTTP context, it's quite likely that the client will have built in TCP fallback. If a server does not properly handle GREASED connections, is there an obvious feedback mechanism? 

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No more than what we get when the server advertises a QUIC that is broken in other ways.  That's what Alt-Svc is like.

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<p>No more than what we get when the server advertises a QUIC that is broken in other ways.  That's what Alt-Svc is like.</p>

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Hm. That's too bad :( If there's no feedback channel (because of Alt-Svc's graceful fallback) will the incentives line up for GREASE to actually help keep the ecosystem working? As I understand it, with TLS, GREASE errors end up user visible, which makes it obvious to server administrators. Maybe we should make GREASE in QUIC actually fatal? 

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The cryptic 4 lettter names for these are a relic of the encoding in Google=
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* MSPC =E2=86=92 maximum concurrent streams (or max_streams)
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* SFCW =E2=86=92 new stream flow control offset (str_fc_offset)
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The problem here is that any failure in an alternative is buried by design.  You have to expect the alternative to fail.  We could promote certain types of failures so that they tear down all communication to the origin, but that isn't reliable.

If the way that version negotiation failures manifest is a black hole - an unfortunately common failure mode we deal with - how do we tell the difference between that and a server that is off the network?

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<p>The problem here is that any failure in an alternative is buried by desi=
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ut that isn't reliable.</p>
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Great idea. Using the full words sounds clearest to me.

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<p>Great idea. Using the full words sounds clearest to me.</p>

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Yeah, I totally hear you. I'm just saying that (as I understand it) the reason that GREASE works for TLS is that when an endpoint doesn't do the right thing, it's a fatal error which is visible to the user.

If Alt-Svc (by design) hides failures from the user will GREASE work for QUIC?

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It depends on how visible QUIC usage is to the server.  If they never see requests over QUIC, or the rate is low by some significant proportion, then there is a *chance* that it could work.   But you are right that it's probably not great.

There is an alternative, but it's disruptive.  Flip the version negotiation on its head.  Have the client include a list of versions in its initial packet and have the server pick the version (and reject if necessary).  No risk there of ever having a wasted RTT.  (There are other latency improvements that can be salvaged from such a design, but they are harder to acquire.)

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  Branch: refs/heads/aad_header
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Apparently all this crypto stuff isn't going to live in the -tls doc forever, but since it is here.

Closes #<an issue that I can't find>, but I know that we agreed to this at the Tokyo interim.
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    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md (3)

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<p>Apparently all this crypto stuff isn't going to live in the -tls doc forever, but since it is here.</p>
<p>Closes #&lt;an issue that I can't find&gt;, but I know that we agreed to this at the Tokyo interim.</p>

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  Branch: refs/heads/transport_priority
  Home:   https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts
  Commit: d9d21223b48c3850fd750f45ae91f0bc7bb42315
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/d9d21223b48c3850fd750f45ae91f0bc7bb42315
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-14 (Tue, 14 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

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We decided that the transport would need priority but that it would rely on the application (protocol) to provide that information.  This attempts to capture that decision and provides a little guidance on what to prioritize (management stuff over STREAM, STREAM 1 over other streams, retransmissions, and then the rest of the streams according to application-layer priority).

Closes #114.
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-- Commit Summary --

  * Add a section on prioritization

-- File Changes --

    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (41)

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<p>We decided that the transport would need priority but that it would rely on the application (protocol) to provide that information.  This attempts to capture that decision and provides a little guidance on what to prioritize (management stuff over STREAM, STREAM 1 over other streams, retransmissions, and then the rest of the streams according to application-layer priority).</p>
<p>Closes <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/114" class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/114" data-id="198631619" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-permission-text="Issue title is private">#114</a>.</p>

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<h4>You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:</h4>
<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href='https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/303'>https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/303</a></p>

<h4>Commit Summary</h4>
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  <li>Add a section on prioritization</li>
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<h4>File Changes</h4>
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I thought that it was nice to have, but not a deal-breaker.

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ianswett commented on this pull request.

Two suggestions, but looks good.

>  
-The complete packet number is a 64-bit unsigned number and is used as part of a
-cryptographic nonce for packet encryption.  To reduce the number of bits
-required to represent the packet number over the wire, at most 48 bits of the
-packet number are transmitted over the wire.  A QUIC endpoint MUST NOT reuse a
-complete packet number within the same connection (that is, under the same
-cryptographic keys).  If the total number of packets transmitted in this
-connection reaches 2^64 - 1, the sender MUST close the connection by sending a
+## Packet Numbers
+
+The packet number is a 64-bit unsigned number and is used as part of a
+cryptographic nonce for packet encryption.  Each endpoint maintains a separate
+packet number for sending and receiving.  The packet number for sending MUST
+increase by one after sending any packet.

At least one.

> @@ -646,10 +661,10 @@ that the client selected.
 
 When the client receives a Version Negotiation packet from the server, it should
 select an acceptable protocol version.  If the server lists an acceptable
-version, the client selects that version and resends all packets using that
-version. The resent packets MUST use new packet numbers.  These packets MUST
-continue to have the VERSION flag set and MUST include the new negotiated
-protocol version.
+version, the client selects that version and reattempts to created a connection
+using that version.  The client MUST update packet numbers when attempting to
+connect with the updated version.  Packets MUST continue to have the VERSION

I think "The client MUST update packet numbers when attempting to continue to connect with the updated version." is unclear.  How about  "The client must select a new initial random packet number.", since you mention including the version in the next sentence?

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<p><b>@ianswett</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

<p>Two suggestions, but looks good.</p><hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/299#pullrequestreview-21782955">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt;  
-The complete packet number is a 64-bit unsigned number and is used as part of a
-cryptographic nonce for packet encryption.  To reduce the number of bits
-required to represent the packet number over the wire, at most 48 bits of the
-packet number are transmitted over the wire.  A QUIC endpoint MUST NOT reuse a
-complete packet number within the same connection (that is, under the same
-cryptographic keys).  If the total number of packets transmitted in this
-connection reaches 2^64 - 1, the sender MUST close the connection by sending a
+## Packet Numbers
+
+The packet number is a 64-bit unsigned number and is used as part of a
+cryptographic nonce for packet encryption.  Each endpoint maintains a separate
+packet number for sending and receiving.  The packet number for sending MUST
+increase by one after sending any packet.
</pre>
<p>At least one.</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/299#pullrequestreview-21782955">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -646,10 +661,10 @@ that the client selected.
 
 When the client receives a Version Negotiation packet from the server, it should
 select an acceptable protocol version.  If the server lists an acceptable
-version, the client selects that version and resends all packets using that
-version. The resent packets MUST use new packet numbers.  These packets MUST
-continue to have the VERSION flag set and MUST include the new negotiated
-protocol version.
+version, the client selects that version and reattempts to created a connection
+using that version.  The client MUST update packet numbers when attempting to
+connect with the updated version.  Packets MUST continue to have the VERSION
</pre>
<p>I think "The client MUST update packet numbers when attempting to continue to connect with the updated version." is unclear.  How about  "The client must select a new initial random packet number.", since you mention including the version in the next sentence?</p>

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We could assume both connection ID and IP/port are all unchanging during the handshake, which would allow the collision to be resolved when the server picks a new connection id.  I believe this solves the collision problem in every case I can imagine.

Yeah for server chosen connection ids!

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A note on mnot's summary.  This was correct when written, but since then it seems everyone is moving towards a model where the client provides a connection ID and the server replaces it.  I support this change, but I wanted to note it's different from what was agreed upon in Tokyo.

I support requiring acking the CHLO in the same packet as the HRR, as it makes the recovery doc cleaner and isn't that difficult to implement.

The HRR could also contain a new connection id in it, for use by the client.  This is what QUIC currently does for stateless rejects.

This would mean for the first full round trip, the client proposed connection id would be used, and then the connection switches to the new connection id.  In the case of a stateless reject(or version negotiation), I believe we want to use a new connection id anyway, since it's a new connection.

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<p>This would mean for the first full round trip, the client proposed conne=
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Are there any other web editors that are better?  Alternately, can we just add a presubmit that strips whitespace and wraps lines?

Also, how are you seeing the trailing whitespace and long lines?  

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<p>Also, how are you seeing the trailing whitespace and long lines?</p>

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MikeBishop approved this pull request.

Content looks good; a few grammar/punctuation nitpicks.

> @@ -1734,6 +1735,46 @@ Flow control is described in detail in {{flow-control}}, and congestion control
 is described in the companion document {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}.
 
 
+## Stream Prioritization
+
+Stream multiplexing has a significant effect on application performance if
+resources allocated to streams are correctly prioritized.  Experience with other
+multiplexed protocols, such as HTTP/2 {{?RFC7540}} shows that effective

Comma after the reference (parenthetical phrase).

> @@ -1734,6 +1735,46 @@ Flow control is described in detail in {{flow-control}}, and congestion control
 is described in the companion document {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}.
 
 
+## Stream Prioritization
+
+Stream multiplexing has a significant effect on application performance if
+resources allocated to streams are correctly prioritized.  Experience with other
+multiplexed protocols, such as HTTP/2 {{?RFC7540}} shows that effective

Multiplexing has a significant effect either way.  But if it's correctly prioritized, that effect can be beneficial.

> @@ -1734,6 +1735,46 @@ Flow control is described in detail in {{flow-control}}, and congestion control
 is described in the companion document {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}.
 
 
+## Stream Prioritization
+
+Stream multiplexing has a significant effect on application performance if
+resources allocated to streams are correctly prioritized.  Experience with other
+multiplexed protocols, such as HTTP/2 {{?RFC7540}} shows that effective
+prioritization strategies have a significant impact on performance.
+
+QUIC does not provide frames for exchanging priotization information.  Instead
+it relies on receiving priority information from the application that uses QUIC.
+Protocols that use QUIC are able to define any prioritization scheme that suits
+their application semantics.  A protocol might define explicit messages for
+signaling priority, such as those defined in HTTP/2, it could define rules that

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<p><b>@MikeBishop</b> approved this pull request.</p>

<p>Content looks good; a few grammar/punctuation nitpicks.</p><hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/303#pullrequestreview-21836185">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -1734,6 +1735,46 @@ Flow control is described in detail in {{flow-control}}, and congestion control
 is described in the companion document {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}.
 
 
+## Stream Prioritization
+
+Stream multiplexing has a significant effect on application performance if
+resources allocated to streams are correctly prioritized.  Experience with other
+multiplexed protocols, such as HTTP/2 {{?RFC7540}} shows that effective
</pre>
<p>Comma after the reference (parenthetical phrase).</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/303#pullrequestreview-21836185">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -1734,6 +1735,46 @@ Flow control is described in detail in {{flow-control}}, and congestion control
 is described in the companion document {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}.
 
 
+## Stream Prioritization
+
+Stream multiplexing has a significant effect on application performance if
+resources allocated to streams are correctly prioritized.  Experience with other
+multiplexed protocols, such as HTTP/2 {{?RFC7540}} shows that effective
</pre>
<p>Multiplexing has a significant effect either way.  But if it's correctly prioritized, that effect can be beneficial.</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/303#pullrequestreview-21836185">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -1734,6 +1735,46 @@ Flow control is described in detail in {{flow-control}}, and congestion control
 is described in the companion document {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}.
 
 
+## Stream Prioritization
+
+Stream multiplexing has a significant effect on application performance if
+resources allocated to streams are correctly prioritized.  Experience with other
+multiplexed protocols, such as HTTP/2 {{?RFC7540}} shows that effective
+prioritization strategies have a significant impact on performance.
+
+QUIC does not provide frames for exchanging priotization information.  Instead
+it relies on receiving priority information from the application that uses QUIC.
+Protocols that use QUIC are able to define any prioritization scheme that suits
+their application semantics.  A protocol might define explicit messages for
+signaling priority, such as those defined in HTTP/2, it could define rules that
</pre>
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<p>Also closes <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/104" class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/104" data-id="197766073" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-permission-text="Issue title is private">#104</a> .</p>

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Updated your link to #226.  Discussed in Tokyo as part of #243, but that was subsequently closed as a duplicate.

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<p>Updated your link to <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/226" class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/226" data-id="202992299" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-permission-text="Issue title is private">#226</a>.  Discussed in Tokyo as part of <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/243" class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/243" data-id="203485629" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-permission-text="Issue title is private">#243</a>, but that was subsequently closed as a duplicate.</p>

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Might be worth expanding a little bit about what parts of a lost ACK get bundled into new ACK frames.  Most notably, IIUC, while the Ack Block section is simply cumulative, the Timestamp entry only gets sent once per frame.  If an ACK is lost, the next ACK needs to re-send that timestamp, doesn't it?

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The current approach only sends a given timestamp once, because by the time you realize they're lost, it's been an RTT and they're expected to be useless.  This also makes the logic much simpler.

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<p>The current approach only sends a given timestamp once, because by the time you realize they're lost, it's been an RTT and they're expected to be useless.  This also makes the logic much simpler.</p>

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ianswett commented on this pull request.

One comment on how acks are generated.

>  
-* ACK, STOP_WAITING, and PADDING frames MUST NOT be retransmitted.  New frames
-  of these types may however be bundled with any outgoing packet.
+* ACK, STOP_WAITING, and PADDING frames MUST NOT be retransmitted.  ACK and
+  STOP_WAITING frames are cumulative, so new frames will be created that contain
+  the data from any lost frame.

How about "ACK and STOP_WAITING frames are cumulative, so new frames containing updated information will be sent as described in {#frame-ack}."  One would not actually track what was sent in the ack and retransmit it, since acks are cumulative.

The {#frame-ack} section doesn't have any text on only sending timestamps once, so that should be clarified, but most of the rest of the text is there, so I would tend to keep it there.  I can clarify that text when I do the stop waiting removal, which probably requires me getting an editor setup you and Mike don't hate.

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<p><b>@ianswett</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

<p>One comment on how acks are generated.</p><hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/298#pullrequestreview-21854576">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt;  
-* ACK, STOP_WAITING, and PADDING frames MUST NOT be retransmitted.  New frames
-  of these types may however be bundled with any outgoing packet.
+* ACK, STOP_WAITING, and PADDING frames MUST NOT be retransmitted.  ACK and
+  STOP_WAITING frames are cumulative, so new frames will be created that contain
+  the data from any lost frame.
</pre>
<p>How about "ACK and STOP_WAITING frames are cumulative, so new frames containing updated information will be sent as described in {#frame-ack}."  One would not actually track what was sent in the ack and retransmit it, since acks are cumulative.</p>
<p>The {#frame-ack} section doesn't have any text on only sending timestamps once, so that should be clarified, but most of the rest of the text is there, so I would tend to keep it there.  I can clarify that text when I do the stop waiting removal, which probably requires me getting an editor setup you and Mike don't hate.</p>

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> @@ -201,6 +201,21 @@ additional framing. Note that a request or response without a body will cause
 this stream to be half-closed in the corresponding direction without
 transferring data.
 
+Because the message control stream contains HPACK data which manipulates
+connection-level state, the message control stream MUST NOT be closed with a
+stream-level error.  If an implementation chooses to reject a request with a
+QUIC error code, it MUST trigger a RST_STREAM on the data stream only.  An
+implementation MAY close (FIN) a message control stream without completing a
+full HTTP message if the data stream has been abruptly closed.  Data on message
+control streams MUST be fully consumed, or the connection terminated.
+
+If a message control stream is terminated abruptly by the transport layer (e.g.
+with QUIC_TOO_MANY_OPEN_STREAMS), any frames already sent on that stream MUST
+be re-played on another message control stream as soon as the maximum number of
+streams permits.  If the implementation no longer requires the response to this
+request, it MAY abruptly terminate the corresponding data stream at the same
+time.

I think the concern is that the transport layer doesn't necessarily know what's a data stream versus a control stream.  And if the application layer has said "Give me no more than 10 streams at a time," it seems... odd for the QUIC layer to then say "Here are 20 streams that have just arrived; if you'd like to shoot 10 of them, feel free."  The app already set the limit, and that limit should be enforced.

And if that enforcement causes the whole connection to get torn down, that might be okay.

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<p><b>@MikeBishop</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/274">draft-ietf-quic-http.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -201,6 +201,21 @@ additional framing. Note that a request or response without a body will cause
 this stream to be half-closed in the corresponding direction without
 transferring data.
 
+Because the message control stream contains HPACK data which manipulates
+connection-level state, the message control stream MUST NOT be closed with a
+stream-level error.  If an implementation chooses to reject a request with a
+QUIC error code, it MUST trigger a RST_STREAM on the data stream only.  An
+implementation MAY close (FIN) a message control stream without completing a
+full HTTP message if the data stream has been abruptly closed.  Data on message
+control streams MUST be fully consumed, or the connection terminated.
+
+If a message control stream is terminated abruptly by the transport layer (e.g.
+with QUIC_TOO_MANY_OPEN_STREAMS), any frames already sent on that stream MUST
+be re-played on another message control stream as soon as the maximum number of
+streams permits.  If the implementation no longer requires the response to this
+request, it MAY abruptly terminate the corresponding data stream at the same
+time.
</pre>
<p>I think the concern is that the transport layer doesn't necessarily know what's a data stream versus a control stream.  And if the application layer has said "Give me no more than 10 streams at a time," it seems... odd for the QUIC layer to then say "Here are 20 streams that have just arrived; if you'd like to shoot 10 of them, feel free."  The app already set the limit, and that limit should be enforced.</p>
<p>And if that enforcement causes the whole connection to get torn down, that might be okay.</p>

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ianswett commented on this pull request.

Mostly good, the last paragraph could be a bit terser.

> @@ -1734,6 +1735,46 @@ Flow control is described in detail in {{flow-control}}, and congestion control
 is described in the companion document {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}.
 
 
+## Stream Prioritization
+
+Stream multiplexing has a significant effect on application performance if
+resources allocated to streams are correctly prioritized.  Experience with other
+multiplexed protocols, such as HTTP/2 {{?RFC7540}} shows that effective
+prioritization strategies have a significant impact on performance.
+
+QUIC does not provide frames for exchanging priotization information.  Instead
+it relies on receiving priority information from the application that uses QUIC.
+Protocols that use QUIC are able to define any prioritization scheme that suits
+their application semantics.  A protocol might define explicit messages for
+signaling priority, such as those defined in HTTP/2, it could define rules that

Should the HTTP/2 RFC be referenced here?

> +resources to, QUIC SHOULD use the information provided by the application.
+Failure to account for priority of streams can result in suboptimal performance.
+
+Stream priority is most relevant when deciding which stream data will be
+transmitted.  Often, there will be limits on what can be transmitted as a result
+of connection flow control or the current congestion controller state.
+
+Giving preference to the transmission of its own management frames ensures that
+the protocol functions efficiently.  That is, prioritizing frames other than
+STREAM frames ensures that loss recovery, congestion control, and flow control
+operate effectively.  Prioritizing stream 1 over other streams ensures that the
+cryptographic handshake can complete.
+
+Choosing to retransmit data that was already sent and determined to be lost can
+help ensure that flow control doesn't cause underutilization or temporary
+stalling of a connection.  Data sent in STREAM frames counts toward flow control

I think this entire paragraph can be shortened to one sentence, which is the first one.   

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<p>Mostly good, the last paragraph could be a bit terser.</p><hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/303#pullrequestreview-21877456">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -1734,6 +1735,46 @@ Flow control is described in detail in {{flow-control}}, and congestion control
 is described in the companion document {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}.
 
 
+## Stream Prioritization
+
+Stream multiplexing has a significant effect on application performance if
+resources allocated to streams are correctly prioritized.  Experience with other
+multiplexed protocols, such as HTTP/2 {{?RFC7540}} shows that effective
+prioritization strategies have a significant impact on performance.
+
+QUIC does not provide frames for exchanging priotization information.  Instead
+it relies on receiving priority information from the application that uses QUIC.
+Protocols that use QUIC are able to define any prioritization scheme that suits
+their application semantics.  A protocol might define explicit messages for
+signaling priority, such as those defined in HTTP/2, it could define rules that
</pre>
<p>Should the HTTP/2 RFC be referenced here?</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/303#pullrequestreview-21877456">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +resources to, QUIC SHOULD use the information provided by the application.
+Failure to account for priority of streams can result in suboptimal performance.
+
+Stream priority is most relevant when deciding which stream data will be
+transmitted.  Often, there will be limits on what can be transmitted as a result
+of connection flow control or the current congestion controller state.
+
+Giving preference to the transmission of its own management frames ensures that
+the protocol functions efficiently.  That is, prioritizing frames other than
+STREAM frames ensures that loss recovery, congestion control, and flow control
+operate effectively.  Prioritizing stream 1 over other streams ensures that the
+cryptographic handshake can complete.
+
+Choosing to retransmit data that was already sent and determined to be lost can
+help ensure that flow control doesn&#39;t cause underutilization or temporary
+stalling of a connection.  Data sent in STREAM frames counts toward flow control
</pre>
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@ianswett, your point being that if you have a collision on connection ID + source IP + source port then you have won the lottery and you might as well give up (chances are that this is a badly busted client).  Otherwise, the server can pick a new connection ID during the handshake and avoid collisions.  That WFM.

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I don't think that we want or need to have a new connection ID in the HelloRetryRequest.  We want the server to be able to propose a new connection ID without adding a round trip, so I'm going to suggest that we just have the server include a new connection ID in the header when it answers.  That can be on the stateless reject, or when the server continues the connection (ServerHello).

Stateless reject can't really be a properly "new" connection, at least from the client perspective: the TLS handshake transcript includes the initial ClientHello, the HelloRetryRequest and second ClientHello.

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<p>I don't think that we want or need to have a new connection ID in the He=
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<p>Stateless reject can't really be a properly "new" connection, at least f=
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@ianswett, when you look at the diff that you produce, it shows both.  Long lines are harder to detect because github doesn't have column markers, but you can see really long lines.

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<p><a href="https://github.com/ianswett" class="user-mention">@ianswett</a>, when you look at the diff that you produce, it shows both.  Long lines are harder to detect because github doesn't have column markers, but you can see really long lines.</p>

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  Branch: refs/heads/master
  Home:   https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts
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  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-15 (Wed, 15 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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    M draft-ietf-quic-http.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md
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f759b4b  Merge branch 'master' into ianswett-patch-3


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  Date:   2017-02-15 (Wed, 15 Feb 2017)

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@ianswett, this is for your benefit largely.  It can't fix the problems it finds, but it should help you identify them early.  Can you double-check that my refactoring of your algorithm is correct?
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<p><a href="https://github.com/ianswett" class="user-mention">@ianswett</a>, this is for your benefit largely.  It can't fix the problems it finds, but it should help you identify them early.  Can you double-check that my refactoring of your algorithm is correct?</p>

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  Branch: refs/heads/ianswett-patch-3
  Home:   https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts
  Commit: 159063288265d7a581e2170672194f29d672e984
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/159063288265d7a581e2170672194f29d672e984
  Author: martinduke <martin.h.duke@gmail.com>
  Date:   2016-12-21 (Wed, 21 Dec 2016)

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  Log Message:
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  Update draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

Rewrote the PMTUD section as discussed in Issue #64:
https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/64

Because of concern about user-space implementations controlling kernel PMTU mechanisms, and interest in PLPMTUD as an alternative to tradition ICMP PMTUD, this is a thick web of different options, MUSTs and SHOULDs. In my truest heart I would like to sweep a lot of this away and do a MUST based on around the ICMP system, but though wordy this is more likely to please everyone.


  Commit: 2021025b266b9ab983c22e3b428ea878db45f58c
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/2021025b266b9ab983c22e3b428ea878db45f58c
  Author: martinduke <martin.h.duke@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-01-10 (Tue, 10 Jan 2017)

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  Log Message:
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  Update draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

Substantial edits for #106 to reflect comments for both it and #105.


  Commit: 6ef293130e793f8a5ec4459f4fa55a801cf99c66
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/6ef293130e793f8a5ec4459f4fa55a801cf99c66
  Author: martinduke <martin.h.duke@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-01-11 (Wed, 11 Jan 2017)

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  Log Message:
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  Update draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

- Clarified that packet number ambiguity only exists in IPv4, as RFC 1885 requires IPv6 packet-too-big messages to be quite a bit longer.
- Addressed all of Ian's comments, except...
- I'm sticking with the MUST set DF for IPv4 handshake packets, because I don't see how the basic test-the-MTU mechanism works without it.


  Commit: 9fbcca385dbf5a43916b4f217ec4d4b62407a458
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/9fbcca385dbf5a43916b4f217ec4d4b62407a458
  Author: martinduke <martin.h.duke@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-01-12 (Thu, 12 Jan 2017)

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  Revised PMTU section

Addressed Jana's comments.


  Commit: e7b455c745f1c2da93b1b393cad030e818e986e1
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/e7b455c745f1c2da93b1b393cad030e818e986e1
  Author: martinduke <martin.h.duke@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-01-13 (Fri, 13 Jan 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Update draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

Addressed Martin T's 01/12 comments.


  Commit: e7683255809c372d2de7a4355a94036f384943b1
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/e7683255809c372d2de7a4355a94036f384943b1
  Author: martinduke <martin.h.duke@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-01-17 (Tue, 17 Jan 2017)

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  Update draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

Removed the paragraph on handshake padding (now in Issue #164) so that the rest can be merged into the document.


  Commit: 5bf31689873343f75f8e7f7d854c360dc602a884
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/5bf31689873343f75f8e7f7d854c360dc602a884
  Author: martinduke <martin.h.duke@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-01-26 (Thu, 26 Jan 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Update draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

Added all the changes decided on in Tokyo for #64, #69, #139, #164.

I imagine any remaining comments will be editorial.


  Commit: cfaeff689a7d3d9a8204939c2cdea61f7e75077d
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/cfaeff689a7d3d9a8204939c2cdea61f7e75077d
  Author: martinduke <martin.h.duke@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-07 (Tue, 07 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Update draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

Addressed Martin Thomson's issues. Changes are not quite verbatim from his suggestions.


  Commit: 9fe0b7d2d8333247c67777412266dd7151e0fc8f
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/9fe0b7d2d8333247c67777412266dd7151e0fc8f
  Author: Mike Bishop <michael.bishop@microsoft.com>
  Date:   2017-02-07 (Tue, 07 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Immutable settings with no ACKs (#236)

Removes SETTINGS_ACK and makes settings immutable; prohibits server from sending until it sees SETTINGS.  Defines 0-RTT defaults.  Closes #181.


  Commit: 57935188890c3361785841a6294fdd136efa67c5
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/57935188890c3361785841a6294fdd136efa67c5
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-08 (Wed, 08 Feb 2017)

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  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #106 from martinduke/patch-1

PMTUD


  Commit: 073ddba830523c88fc269ac5251007c5e7b53ef5
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/073ddba830523c88fc269ac5251007c5e7b53ef5
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-08 (Wed, 08 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Fix whitespace


  Commit: 2b24854b6bd7a1cb28437c891bf21e8b8e460622
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/2b24854b6bd7a1cb28437c891bf21e8b8e460622
  Author: Mike Bishop <michbish@microsoft.com>
  Date:   2017-02-08 (Wed, 08 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Two error codes from the Chromium RST_STREAM enum


  Commit: 79eb6ccad089c335f72d3c5d58258e66883c216c
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/79eb6ccad089c335f72d3c5d58258e66883c216c
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-09 (Thu, 09 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #270 from quicwg/more_error_codes

Add two error codes from Chromium's RST_STREAM enum


  Commit: b2b779404e0ec8661bce8f864f1c7b993b4860a4
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/b2b779404e0ec8661bce8f864f1c7b993b4860a4
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-09 (Thu, 09 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  PADDING is a single 0 octet


  Commit: b09b36b550910563b53e7d612d6349709c518ae9
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/b09b36b550910563b53e7d612d6349709c518ae9
  Author: Mike Bishop <michbish@microsoft.com>
  Date:   2017-02-09 (Thu, 09 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Placate Kramdown's table syntax oddities


  Commit: d68a0b1048fcadb285134c3d40aa81a32f2eefd6
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/d68a0b1048fcadb285134c3d40aa81a32f2eefd6
  Author: Mike Bishop <michbish@microsoft.com>
  Date:   2017-02-09 (Thu, 09 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Unshallow Circle's repo


  Commit: 26aa99e081d5e534ac46388a429a0dbbe49ad13f
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/26aa99e081d5e534ac46388a429a0dbbe49ad13f
  Author: Mike Bishop <michbish@microsoft.com>
  Date:   2017-02-09 (Thu, 09 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Don't need --unshallow any more


  Commit: 36fef3f2c1617aa4b428d87ec6d86c8516d01e45
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/36fef3f2c1617aa4b428d87ec6d86c8516d01e45
  Author: Mike Bishop <michbish@microsoft.com>
  Date:   2017-02-09 (Thu, 09 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Selectively unshallow


  Commit: bf02f94f146e9f5d801f9b2efbd0e111eafaf4a7
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/bf02f94f146e9f5d801f9b2efbd0e111eafaf4a7
  Author: Mike Bishop <michbish@microsoft.com>
  Date:   2017-02-09 (Thu, 09 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Cache pip and gem downloads


  Commit: 31eb8ea47b808ad08239cdae76dcc35f9ade859a
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/31eb8ea47b808ad08239cdae76dcc35f9ade859a
  Author: Mike Bishop <michbish@microsoft.com>
  Date:   2017-02-09 (Thu, 09 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Declare a recent Python version


  Commit: 3b22ee192da9606504cb5fecb1a736ff9347ab71
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/3b22ee192da9606504cb5fecb1a736ff9347ab71
  Author: Mike Bishop <michbish@microsoft.com>
  Date:   2017-02-09 (Thu, 09 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Fix whitespace


  Commit: 430e1f94cd6d5aa82faa188e993633dd0797b525
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/430e1f94cd6d5aa82faa188e993633dd0797b525
  Author: Mike Bishop <michbish@microsoft.com>
  Date:   2017-02-09 (Thu, 09 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Fix the fix


  Commit: 0de60f8103d15ea08396491f97bc790e5e3693c0
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/0de60f8103d15ea08396491f97bc790e5e3693c0
  Author: janaiyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-13 (Mon, 13 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #276 from quicwg/internal_padding

PADDING is a single 0 octet


  Commit: ef880125c9e92ac183231887cda9256dbbbb6f57
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/ef880125c9e92ac183231887cda9256dbbbb6f57
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-14 (Tue, 14 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Update circle.yml to template


  Commit: 23545b32c375e94e00f3c888e665db0023e28ad6
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/23545b32c375e94e00f3c888e665db0023e28ad6
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-14 (Tue, 14 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-http.md

  Log Message:
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  Give figures numbers, correct PRIORITY caption (#301)


  Commit: 8157c3f99d63d4a82b434b0389ed718aa7354aa1
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/8157c3f99d63d4a82b434b0389ed718aa7354aa1
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-15 (Wed, 15 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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    M draft-ietf-quic-http.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Police the creation of long lines


  Commit: f759b4b8248f67ff5736314cccd981a61aa1e437
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/f759b4b8248f67ff5736314cccd981a61aa1e437
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-15 (Wed, 15 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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    M circle.yml
    M draft-ietf-quic-http.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Merge branch 'master' into ianswett-patch-3


Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/ae14993a65ef...f759b4b8248f
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  Branch: refs/heads/frames_arent_retransmitted
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49e0ca0  Updated information in ACK follows rules defined for the frame


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> skipping packet numbers between 1 and 255 effectively provides up to 8 bits of efficient entropy on  demand, which should be adequate protection against most opportunistic acknowledgement attacks.

Aside from the odd phrasing, I think that this is incorrect.  Aside from the obvious point that 1-255 is only  7.994 bits of entropy, you also have to take into account the probability that a sender chooses to skip (a probability of 2^-8 would give the answer here).  Add to that the fact that any entropy accumulates with every packet sent.  Choosing to send or withhold each packet number could add up to a bit of entropy over time, so the difficulty in guessing could be higher over time.

No matter what strategy it's always safe for an attacker to guess high, so the amount of effective entropy against an attacker is probably less than claimed.  Of course, guessing high has an effect on congestion control, because that is marked by the sender as loss.  That could be as effective in mitigating the optimistic acknowledgment attack as the gap itself.

Then there is real packet loss.  If you randomly decide to skip 255 numbers, then real packet loss on the packet after the gap makes it difficult to acknowledge (you have to send two ACK frames if there is a gap >255).  Burst loss makes that even more likely.

In any case, I'd recommend removing any claim about entropy.  I also recommend removing any mention of specific numbers.  Skipping more packets is fine, but it means that you run the packet number space down faster and you get less efficiency in ACK packets.

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<p>skipping packet numbers between 1 and 255 effectively provides up to 8 bits of efficient entropy on  demand, which should be adequate protection against most opportunistic acknowledgement attacks.</p>
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<p>Aside from the odd phrasing, I think that this is incorrect.  Aside from the obvious point that 1-255 is only  7.994 bits of entropy, you also have to take into account the probability that a sender chooses to skip (a probability of 2^-8 would give the answer here).  Add to that the fact that any entropy accumulates with every packet sent.  Choosing to send or withhold each packet number could add up to a bit of entropy over time, so the difficulty in guessing could be higher over time.</p>
<p>No matter what strategy it's always safe for an attacker to guess high, so the amount of effective entropy against an attacker is probably less than claimed.  Of course, guessing high has an effect on congestion control, because that is marked by the sender as loss.  That could be as effective in mitigating the optimistic acknowledgment attack as the gap itself.</p>
<p>Then there is real packet loss.  If you randomly decide to skip 255 numbers, then real packet loss on the packet after the gap makes it difficult to acknowledge (you have to send two ACK frames if there is a gap &gt;255).  Burst loss makes that even more likely.</p>
<p>In any case, I'd recommend removing any claim about entropy.  I also recommend removing any mention of specific numbers.  Skipping more packets is fine, but it means that you run the packet number space down faster and you get less efficiency in ACK packets.</p>

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martinthomson commented on this pull request.



> @@ -201,6 +201,21 @@ additional framing. Note that a request or response without a body will cause
 this stream to be half-closed in the corresponding direction without
 transferring data.
 
+Because the message control stream contains HPACK data which manipulates
+connection-level state, the message control stream MUST NOT be closed with a
+stream-level error.  If an implementation chooses to reject a request with a
+QUIC error code, it MUST trigger a RST_STREAM on the data stream only.  An
+implementation MAY close (FIN) a message control stream without completing a
+full HTTP message if the data stream has been abruptly closed.  Data on message
+control streams MUST be fully consumed, or the connection terminated.
+
+If a message control stream is terminated abruptly by the transport layer (e.g.
+with QUIC_TOO_MANY_OPEN_STREAMS), any frames already sent on that stream MUST
+be re-played on another message control stream as soon as the maximum number of
+streams permits.  If the implementation no longer requires the response to this
+request, it MAY abruptly terminate the corresponding data stream at the same
+time.

That's right.  Though 0-RTT is a complication.  An application that enables 0-RTT has to be prepared to accept more than its current limit.  That is, up to its previously advertised limit or the defaults, whichever is greater (damn, I still think that's an awful decision).

Outside of that, I think the goal should be that if the limit is exceeded, it should be punished with immediate termination of the connection.  The transport can enforce that easily enough.

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<p><b>@martinthomson</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/274">draft-ietf-quic-http.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -201,6 +201,21 @@ additional framing. Note that a request or response without a body will cause
 this stream to be half-closed in the corresponding direction without
 transferring data.
 
+Because the message control stream contains HPACK data which manipulates
+connection-level state, the message control stream MUST NOT be closed with a
+stream-level error.  If an implementation chooses to reject a request with a
+QUIC error code, it MUST trigger a RST_STREAM on the data stream only.  An
+implementation MAY close (FIN) a message control stream without completing a
+full HTTP message if the data stream has been abruptly closed.  Data on message
+control streams MUST be fully consumed, or the connection terminated.
+
+If a message control stream is terminated abruptly by the transport layer (e.g.
+with QUIC_TOO_MANY_OPEN_STREAMS), any frames already sent on that stream MUST
+be re-played on another message control stream as soon as the maximum number of
+streams permits.  If the implementation no longer requires the response to this
+request, it MAY abruptly terminate the corresponding data stream at the same
+time.
</pre>
<p>That's right.  Though 0-RTT is a complication.  An application that enables 0-RTT has to be prepared to accept more than its current limit.  That is, up to its previously advertised limit or the defaults, whichever is greater (damn, I still think that's an awful decision).</p>
<p>Outside of that, I think the goal should be that if the limit is exceeded, it should be punished with immediate termination of the connection.  The transport can enforce that easily enough.</p>

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  Branch: refs/heads/ack_in_full
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"acked", "acking" and variations thereof are fine in colloquial use, but it doesn't hurt to use real words.

This expands those uses and uses the capitalized ACK in other places.
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  * Use the word "acknowledge" in full when used in prose.

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    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (150)

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<p>"acked", "acking" and variations thereof are fine in colloquial use, but it doesn't hurt to use real words.</p>
<p>This expands those uses and uses the capitalized ACK in other places.</p>

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<h4>Commit Summary</h4>
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  <li>Use the word &quot;acknowledge&quot; in full when used in prose.</li>
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  <li>
    <strong>M</strong>
    <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/306/files#diff-0">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>
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The definition of "Delta Last Acked" is the same for all of the timestamp entries.  This implies that every packet number in the timestamp block is expressed relative to the "Last Acked".  That would make it impossible to provide timestamps for packets more than 255 packet numbers behind the last acknowledged packet and multiple ACK frames would be needed to do that.

I don't think that's right, but that subsequent deltas apply to the last timestamp.  That is:
```diff
  packet_number[0] = last_acknowledged - delta_last[0]
- packet_number[n] = last_acknowledged - delta_last[n]
+ packet_number[n] = last_acknowledged - sum(1, n, delta_last[i])
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<p>The definition of "Delta Last Acked" is the same for all of the timestamp entries.  This implies that every packet number in the timestamp block is expressed relative to the "Last Acked".  That would make it impossible to provide timestamps for packets more than 255 packet numbers behind the last acknowledged packet and multiple ACK frames would be needed to do that.</p>
<p>I don't think that's right, but that subsequent deltas apply to the last timestamp.  That is:</p>
<div class="highlight highlight-source-diff"><pre>  packet_number[0] = last_acknowledged - delta_last[0]
<span class="pl-md"><span class="pl-md">-</span> packet_number[n] = last_acknowledged - delta_last[n]</span>
<span class="pl-mi1"><span class="pl-mi1">+</span> packet_number[n] = last_acknowledged - sum(1, n, delta_last[i])</span></pre></div>

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We need to include advice on the creation of ACK frames when an ACK frame was lost.  The advice from @ianswett is that new timing information isn't valuable.  Both endpoints only need to maintain timing information for individual packets for a short period, so retransmission of old timing information isn't valuable.

Thus, we should recommend that endpoints do just that: maintain a short list of packets that they want to provide timing for.  They should then not worry about re-sending any timestamps from lost packets.

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<p>We need to include advice on the creation of ACK frames when an ACK frame was lost.  The advice from <a href="https://github.com/ianswett" class="user-mention">@ianswett</a> is that new timing information isn't valuable.  Both endpoints only need to maintain timing information for individual packets for a short period, so retransmission of old timing information isn't valuable.</p>
<p>Thus, we should recommend that endpoints do just that: maintain a short list of packets that they want to provide timing for.  They should then not worry about re-sending any timestamps from lost packets.</p>

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> @@ -1734,6 +1735,46 @@ Flow control is described in detail in {{flow-control}}, and congestion control
 is described in the companion document {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}.
 
 
+## Stream Prioritization
+
+Stream multiplexing has a significant effect on application performance if
+resources allocated to streams are correctly prioritized.  Experience with other
+multiplexed protocols, such as HTTP/2 {{?RFC7540}} shows that effective
+prioritization strategies have a significant impact on performance.
+
+QUIC does not provide frames for exchanging priotization information.  Instead
+it relies on receiving priority information from the application that uses QUIC.
+Protocols that use QUIC are able to define any prioritization scheme that suits
+their application semantics.  A protocol might define explicit messages for
+signaling priority, such as those defined in HTTP/2, it could define rules that

I generally don't bother with a second citation for something when it appears in the same section.

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<p><b>@martinthomson</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/303">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -1734,6 +1735,46 @@ Flow control is described in detail in {{flow-control}}, and congestion control
 is described in the companion document {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}.
 
 
+## Stream Prioritization
+
+Stream multiplexing has a significant effect on application performance if
+resources allocated to streams are correctly prioritized.  Experience with other
+multiplexed protocols, such as HTTP/2 {{?RFC7540}} shows that effective
+prioritization strategies have a significant impact on performance.
+
+QUIC does not provide frames for exchanging priotization information.  Instead
+it relies on receiving priority information from the application that uses QUIC.
+Protocols that use QUIC are able to define any prioritization scheme that suits
+their application semantics.  A protocol might define explicit messages for
+signaling priority, such as those defined in HTTP/2, it could define rules that
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  Branch: refs/heads/transport_priority
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  Changed paths:
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> +resources to, QUIC SHOULD use the information provided by the application.
+Failure to account for priority of streams can result in suboptimal performance.
+
+Stream priority is most relevant when deciding which stream data will be
+transmitted.  Often, there will be limits on what can be transmitted as a result
+of connection flow control or the current congestion controller state.
+
+Giving preference to the transmission of its own management frames ensures that
+the protocol functions efficiently.  That is, prioritizing frames other than
+STREAM frames ensures that loss recovery, congestion control, and flow control
+operate effectively.  Prioritizing stream 1 over other streams ensures that the
+cryptographic handshake can complete.
+
+Choosing to retransmit data that was already sent and determined to be lost can
+help ensure that flow control doesn't cause underutilization or temporary
+stalling of a connection.  Data sent in STREAM frames counts toward flow control

That might be true if you have an internalized model of the protocol, but I find that extra detail (gaps, how flow control works, etc...) helps comprehension.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/303">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +resources to, QUIC SHOULD use the information provided by the application.
+Failure to account for priority of streams can result in suboptimal performance.
+
+Stream priority is most relevant when deciding which stream data will be
+transmitted.  Often, there will be limits on what can be transmitted as a result
+of connection flow control or the current congestion controller state.
+
+Giving preference to the transmission of its own management frames ensures that
+the protocol functions efficiently.  That is, prioritizing frames other than
+STREAM frames ensures that loss recovery, congestion control, and flow control
+operate effectively.  Prioritizing stream 1 over other streams ensures that the
+cryptographic handshake can complete.
+
+Choosing to retransmit data that was already sent and determined to be lost can
+help ensure that flow control doesn&#39;t cause underutilization or temporary
+stalling of a connection.  Data sent in STREAM frames counts toward flow control
</pre>
<p>That might be true if you have an internalized model of the protocol, but I find that extra detail (gaps, how flow control works, etc...) helps comprehension.</p>

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The descriptions for `OnAlarm` and `OnPacketAcked` both claim a return value.  The pseudocode doesn't show any return value.

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<p>The descriptions for <code>OnAlarm</code> and <code>OnPacketAcked</code> both claim a return value.  The pseudocode doesn't show any return value.</p>

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The text for `DetectLostPackets` claims that `acked_packet` is a packet number, but the code shows it as having a `packet_number` field, as well as a `time_sent` field.  Maybe a TimeSent() lookup function would work, but at the level that this code operates, I think that it would be better to talk about packets in the abstract.  A real implementation might not carry around all the information a packet might accumulate, but that's for real implementations to worry about.

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<p>The text for <code>DetectLostPackets</code> claims that <code>acked_packet</code> is a packet number, but the code shows it as having a <code>packet_number</code> field, as well as a <code>time_sent</code> field.  Maybe a TimeSent() lookup function would work, but at the level that this code operates, I think that it would be better to talk about packets in the abstract.  A real implementation might not carry around all the information a packet might accumulate, but that's for real implementations to worry about.</p>

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de55691  Fix line lengths


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  Branch: refs/heads/ack_in_full
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  Date:   2017-02-15 (Wed, 15 Feb 2017)

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  Branch: refs/heads/master
  Home:   https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts
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      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/6c23d06991834e22ce061ce479f1b8d0a8ae370e
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-15 (Wed, 15 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-http.md
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Or if you have a random packet number and a packet number echo (#269) this anyway gives you a way to verify that the server received your packet. 

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<p>Or if you have a random packet number and a packet number echo (<a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/269" class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/269" data-id="206298017" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-permission-text="Issue title is private">#269</a>) this anyway gives you a way to verify that the server received your packet.</p>

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Google-QUIC had an issue where post-handshake QUIC packets were being dropped, because a bit changed in the public flags, and a middlebox no longer identified it as QUIC.

In order to ensure the entire public flags byte is usable, I suggest we GREASE it by defining the entire space as valid.

Building on Jana's proposal for the public header with a flags byte as a set of codepoints: https://gist.github.com/janaiyengar/b05acb3af17d6e938d25befc69c11eae

The goal is to provide a simple mathematical mapping from any value of the public flags onto a frame type.  

My suggestion is to lookup the frame type, and if it's not defined, mod the flags value by the number of frame types defined in that phase(short or long form) and pick the type with that index when ordering the frame types by value.

If an initial packet number is chosen randomly, and the connection ID is as well, greasing the flags byte and version (#112 and #296) covers everything that is not encrypted.

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<p>Google-QUIC had an issue where post-handshake QUIC packets were being dropped, because a bit changed in the public flags, and a middlebox no longer identified it as QUIC.</p>
<p>In order to ensure the entire public flags byte is usable, I suggest we GREASE it by defining the entire space as valid.</p>
<p>Building on Jana's proposal for the public header with a flags byte as a set of codepoints: <a href="https://gist.github.com/janaiyengar/b05acb3af17d6e938d25befc69c11eae">https://gist.github.com/janaiyengar/b05acb3af17d6e938d25befc69c11eae</a></p>
<p>The goal is to provide a simple mathematical mapping from any value of the public flags onto a frame type.</p>
<p>My suggestion is to lookup the frame type, and if it's not defined, mod the flags value by the number of frame types defined in that phase(short or long form) and pick the type with that index when ordering the frame types by value.</p>
<p>If an initial packet number is chosen randomly, and the connection ID is as well, greasing the flags byte and version (<a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/112" class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/112" data-id="198619012" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-permission-text="Issue title is private">#112</a> and <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/296" class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/296" data-id="207384216" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-permission-text="Issue title is private">#296</a>) covers everything that is not encrypted.</p>

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I like this idea very much. 

I thinkwe have to be a bit more careful when it comes to the long packets. Different QUIC versions might define a different number of packet types, so we can't grease before version negotiation is finished. If I understand that correctly, excluding the long packets from treason would solve that problem (we do slightly modified greasing here if we define a fixed modulo value that is guaranteed to stay constant between all QUIC versions). 

Furthermore, in order to simplify the mapping, if we define an ordering of the frame types anyway, wouldn't it be easier to get rid of the explicit values defined in Jana's proposal? I.e. the packet type would just be numbered 1 to n. 

Then the rule for the sender is easy: Just add *random number* x *number of frame types* to the type number (mod 256).

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<p>I like this idea very much.</p>
<p>I thinkwe have to be a bit more careful when it comes to the long packet=
s. Different QUIC versions might define a different number of packet types,=
 so we can't grease before version negotiation is finished. If I understand=
 that correctly, excluding the long packets from treason would solve that p=
roblem (we do slightly modified greasing here if we define a fixed modulo v=
alue that is guaranteed to stay constant between all QUIC versions).</p>
<p>Furthermore, in order to simplify the mapping, if we define an ordering =
of the frame types anyway, wouldn't it be easier to get rid of the explicit=
 values defined in Jana's proposal? I.e. the packet type would just be numb=
ered 1 to n.</p>
<p>Then the rule for the sender is easy: Just add <em>random number</em> x =
<em>number of frame types</em> to the type number (mod 256).</p>

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@martinthomson Ok, that's very different from how I thought stateless reject was going to work.  Does the server need to include the entire ClientHello in the source address token to allow it to be stateless, or can it send a hash of some sort?

Also, if you put the new connection ID in the HRR, why would that cost a round trip?  

Either way, I think acking the packet is sufficient entropy, so I believe that solution closes this issue.  Acking is better than packet number echo in the sense that the ack would remove the packet from flight, stop retransmissions, etc.

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ianswett commented on this pull request.

Time and packet number spaces are different, sadly.

Thanks for the improved Makefile, though.  Very helpful.

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-       else if (unacked_packet.packet_number <
-                acked_packet.packet_number - reordering_threshold)
+       else if (delta > reordering_threshold)

The first check is a time delta and the second check is a packet number delta.  If you want to define a time_delta and packet_delta for readability, that would work.

Rearranging the conditionals does make it easier to read, so thanks for that.

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<p><b>@ianswett</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

<p>Time and packet number spaces are different, sadly.</p>
<p>Thanks for the improved Makefile, though.  Very helpful.</p><hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/304#pullrequestreview-22006500">draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt;           lost_packets.insert(unacked_packet.packet_number);
-       else if (unacked_packet.packet_number &lt;
-                acked_packet.packet_number - reordering_threshold)
+       else if (delta &gt; reordering_threshold)
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<p>The first check is a time delta and the second check is a packet number delta.  If you want to define a time_delta and packet_delta for readability, that would work.</p>
<p>Rearranging the conditionals does make it easier to read, so thanks for that.</p>

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ianswett commented on this pull request.

One more try at the paragraph.

> +resources to, QUIC SHOULD use the information provided by the application.
+Failure to account for priority of streams can result in suboptimal performance.
+
+Stream priority is most relevant when deciding which stream data will be
+transmitted.  Often, there will be limits on what can be transmitted as a result
+of connection flow control or the current congestion controller state.
+
+Giving preference to the transmission of its own management frames ensures that
+the protocol functions efficiently.  That is, prioritizing frames other than
+STREAM frames ensures that loss recovery, congestion control, and flow control
+operate effectively.  Prioritizing stream 1 over other streams ensures that the
+cryptographic handshake can complete.
+
+Choosing to retransmit data that was already sent and determined to be lost can
+help ensure that flow control doesn't cause underutilization or temporary
+stalling of a connection.  Data sent in STREAM frames counts toward flow control

Ok, how about this: "Stream frames determined lost SHOULD be retransmitted before sending new data, unless application priorities indicate otherwise.  Retransmitting lost STREAM frames fills in gaps, allowing the peer to consume already received data and free up flow control window."

> +allow an endpoint to determine priority based on context; or it could leave the
+determination to the application.
+
+A QUIC implementation SHOULD provide ways in which an application can indicate
+the relative priority of streams.  When deciding which streams to dedicate
+resources to, QUIC SHOULD use the information provided by the application.
+Failure to account for priority of streams can result in suboptimal performance.
+
+Stream priority is most relevant when deciding which stream data will be
+transmitted.  Often, there will be limits on what can be transmitted as a result
+of connection flow control or the current congestion controller state.
+
+Giving preference to the transmission of its own management frames ensures that
+the protocol functions efficiently.  That is, prioritizing frames other than
+STREAM frames ensures that loss recovery, congestion control, and flow control
+operate effectively.  Prioritizing stream 1 over other streams ensures that the

I think we want a SHOULD for stream 1, unless you can think of a counter-example?

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<p><b>@ianswett</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

<p>One more try at the paragraph.</p><hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/303#pullrequestreview-22030526">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +resources to, QUIC SHOULD use the information provided by the application.
+Failure to account for priority of streams can result in suboptimal performance.
+
+Stream priority is most relevant when deciding which stream data will be
+transmitted.  Often, there will be limits on what can be transmitted as a result
+of connection flow control or the current congestion controller state.
+
+Giving preference to the transmission of its own management frames ensures that
+the protocol functions efficiently.  That is, prioritizing frames other than
+STREAM frames ensures that loss recovery, congestion control, and flow control
+operate effectively.  Prioritizing stream 1 over other streams ensures that the
+cryptographic handshake can complete.
+
+Choosing to retransmit data that was already sent and determined to be lost can
+help ensure that flow control doesn&#39;t cause underutilization or temporary
+stalling of a connection.  Data sent in STREAM frames counts toward flow control
</pre>
<p>Ok, how about this: "Stream frames determined lost SHOULD be retransmitted before sending new data, unless application priorities indicate otherwise.  Retransmitting lost STREAM frames fills in gaps, allowing the peer to consume already received data and free up flow control window."</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/303#pullrequestreview-22030526">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +allow an endpoint to determine priority based on context; or it could leave the
+determination to the application.
+
+A QUIC implementation SHOULD provide ways in which an application can indicate
+the relative priority of streams.  When deciding which streams to dedicate
+resources to, QUIC SHOULD use the information provided by the application.
+Failure to account for priority of streams can result in suboptimal performance.
+
+Stream priority is most relevant when deciding which stream data will be
+transmitted.  Often, there will be limits on what can be transmitted as a result
+of connection flow control or the current congestion controller state.
+
+Giving preference to the transmission of its own management frames ensures that
+the protocol functions efficiently.  That is, prioritizing frames other than
+STREAM frames ensures that loss recovery, congestion control, and flow control
+operate effectively.  Prioritizing stream 1 over other streams ensures that the
</pre>
<p>I think we want a SHOULD for stream 1, unless you can think of a counter-example?</p>

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Consecutive numbers would be easier, but it does present deployment challenges for Google and anyone else who has Google-QUIC deployed, as we transition from one flags approach to another.  This might be solvable other ways, but it'd take some serious thought.

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Actually, that's how it works today, and I didn't particularly consider it a problem, since TCP and QUIC by default ack every two packets.  One can imagine schemes that ack less often, and I've implemented two of them, but even then, acking over 200 packets at once would be a bit crazy.

There was a choice between ordering the timestamps by time or by packet number.  I ended up choosing time.

Given timestamps are not retransmitted, they're best effort feedback, and the loss of a small number of timestamps cannot be a critical issue.

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>  CONNECTION_CLOSE frame with the error code QUIC_SEQUENCE_NUMBER_LIMIT_REACHED
-(connection termination is described in {{termination}}.)  For unambiguous
-reconstruction of the complete packet number by a receiver from the lower-order
-bits, a QUIC sender MUST NOT have more than 2^(packet_number_size - 2) in flight
-at any point in the connection.  In other words,
+(connection termination is described in {{termination}}.)
+
+To reduce the number of bits required to represent the packet number over the
+wire, only the least significant bits of the packet number are transmitted over
+the wire, up to 48 bits.  The actual packet number for each packet is
+reconstructed at the receiver based on the largest packet number received on a
+successfully authenticated packet.
+
+A packet number is decoded by finding the packet number value that is closest to
+the next expected packet.  The next expected packet is the highest received

> A packet number is decoded by finding the packet number value that is closest to the next expected packet.

The definition of "the next expected packet" is unclear.  If following example suggest that "the next expected" is "highest successfully authenticated packet + 1", this will not work in cases of occasional random packet delay.

Imagine we started with no loss/delay and few packets outstanding.  The sender would then use an 8-bit packet number to send packet 0x0a. Now that packet is very delayed, so the sender is increasing its packet number length to 16 bits and sends packet 0x010a.  If that delayed 0x0a packet finally arrives, the rule would say to treat 0x0a as 0x010a (since 0x0109 has been successfully decoded).

It seems that the receiver should extend packet numbers with higher order bits from the smallest unacknowledged packet instead of looking for closest numbers.

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<p><b>@igorlord</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/299#pullrequestreview-22043219">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt;  CONNECTION_CLOSE frame with the error code QUIC_SEQUENCE_NUMBER_LIMIT_REACHED
-(connection termination is described in {{termination}}.)  For unambiguous
-reconstruction of the complete packet number by a receiver from the lower-order
-bits, a QUIC sender MUST NOT have more than 2^(packet_number_size - 2) in flight
-at any point in the connection.  In other words,
+(connection termination is described in {{termination}}.)
+
+To reduce the number of bits required to represent the packet number over the
+wire, only the least significant bits of the packet number are transmitted over
+the wire, up to 48 bits.  The actual packet number for each packet is
+reconstructed at the receiver based on the largest packet number received on a
+successfully authenticated packet.
+
+A packet number is decoded by finding the packet number value that is closest to
+the next expected packet.  The next expected packet is the highest received
</pre>
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<p>A packet number is decoded by finding the packet number value that is closest to the next expected packet.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>The definition of "the next expected packet" is unclear.  If following example suggest that "the next expected" is "highest successfully authenticated packet + 1", this will not work in cases of occasional random packet delay.</p>
<p>Imagine we started with no loss/delay and few packets outstanding.  The sender would then use an 8-bit packet number to send packet 0x0a. Now that packet is very delayed, so the sender is increasing its packet number length to 16 bits and sends packet 0x010a.  If that delayed 0x0a packet finally arrives, the rule would say to treat 0x0a as 0x010a (since 0x0109 has been successfully decoded).</p>
<p>It seems that the receiver should extend packet numbers with higher order bits from the smallest unacknowledged packet instead of looking for closest numbers.</p>

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The server can pickle hash state into the cookie.  There's some continuing discussion about the details of that in TLS, but that only really affects how easy it is to implement and the cookie size.  

It's not the source address token, that would be separate information.

Using HRR would cost an extra round trip if that was your only way to propose a new connection ID.  In the normal, happy case we would want to avoid using HRR because it imposes a round trip penalty.

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>  CONNECTION_CLOSE frame with the error code QUIC_SEQUENCE_NUMBER_LIMIT_REACHED
-(connection termination is described in {{termination}}.)  For unambiguous
-reconstruction of the complete packet number by a receiver from the lower-order
-bits, a QUIC sender MUST NOT have more than 2^(packet_number_size - 2) in flight
-at any point in the connection.  In other words,
+(connection termination is described in {{termination}}.)
+
+To reduce the number of bits required to represent the packet number over the
+wire, only the least significant bits of the packet number are transmitted over
+the wire, up to 48 bits.  The actual packet number for each packet is
+reconstructed at the receiver based on the largest packet number received on a
+successfully authenticated packet.
+
+A packet number is decoded by finding the packet number value that is closest to
+the next expected packet.  The next expected packet is the highest received

I believe, "highest successfully authenticated packet + 1" is the most robust definition, as well as how QUIC was originally intended to be specified.

Smallest unacknowledged packet is undefined.  A receiver has to give up on packets at some point, and though currently there is stop waiting(which is going away), even now the receiver must be able to unilaterally give up on waiting for packets, due to memory pressure/etc.  

The sender should budget enough packet number space to send any available CWND in addition to the space needed for current outstanding packets.  If it fails to do so, then the cost is slightly increased packet loss under relatively large scale(>256 packets at a minimum) reordering.


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<p><b>@ianswett</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/299">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt;  CONNECTION_CLOSE frame with the error code QUIC_SEQUENCE_NUMBER_LIMIT_REACHED
-(connection termination is described in {{termination}}.)  For unambiguous
-reconstruction of the complete packet number by a receiver from the lower-order
-bits, a QUIC sender MUST NOT have more than 2^(packet_number_size - 2) in flight
-at any point in the connection.  In other words,
+(connection termination is described in {{termination}}.)
+
+To reduce the number of bits required to represent the packet number over the
+wire, only the least significant bits of the packet number are transmitted over
+the wire, up to 48 bits.  The actual packet number for each packet is
+reconstructed at the receiver based on the largest packet number received on a
+successfully authenticated packet.
+
+A packet number is decoded by finding the packet number value that is closest to
+the next expected packet.  The next expected packet is the highest received
</pre>
<p>I believe, "highest successfully authenticated packet + 1" is the most robust definition, as well as how QUIC was originally intended to be specified.</p>
<p>Smallest unacknowledged packet is undefined.  A receiver has to give up on packets at some point, and though currently there is stop waiting(which is going away), even now the receiver must be able to unilaterally give up on waiting for packets, due to memory pressure/etc.</p>
<p>The sender should budget enough packet number space to send any available CWND in addition to the space needed for current outstanding packets.  If it fails to do so, then the cost is slightly increased packet loss under relatively large scale(&gt;256 packets at a minimum) reordering.</p>

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>  CONNECTION_CLOSE frame with the error code QUIC_SEQUENCE_NUMBER_LIMIT_REACHED
-(connection termination is described in {{termination}}.)  For unambiguous
-reconstruction of the complete packet number by a receiver from the lower-order
-bits, a QUIC sender MUST NOT have more than 2^(packet_number_size - 2) in flight
-at any point in the connection.  In other words,
+(connection termination is described in {{termination}}.)
+
+To reduce the number of bits required to represent the packet number over the
+wire, only the least significant bits of the packet number are transmitted over
+the wire, up to 48 bits.  The actual packet number for each packet is
+reconstructed at the receiver based on the largest packet number received on a
+successfully authenticated packet.
+
+A packet number is decoded by finding the packet number value that is closest to
+the next expected packet.  The next expected packet is the highest received

> Smallest unacknowledged packet is undefined. A receiver has to give up on packets at some point, [...]

By "smallest unacknowledged packet" I meant the "Smallest unacknowledged packet that has not been marked as lost (see {{QUIC-RECOVERY}})".  I was trying to be brief but caused some confusion.

> The sender should budget enough packet number space to send any available CWND in addition to the space needed for current outstanding packets.

That would be an alternative way of solving this -- to always assume that you may need to distinctly address a large number of packets, even if right now you have few packets on the wire.  I am afraid that this defeats the purpose of variable-length packet numbers.  If you must always be ready for the worst case of packet loss/delay, you must always use the max possible packet number length for your connection.

Instead I am proposing that to each incoming packet number, the receiver alway prepends missing high-order bits from the "smallest unacknowledged packet that has not been marked as lost (i.e. still waited-for) (see {{QUIC-RECOVERY}})".  This is very easy to implement and solves the problem.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/299">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt;  CONNECTION_CLOSE frame with the error code QUIC_SEQUENCE_NUMBER_LIMIT_REACHED
-(connection termination is described in {{termination}}.)  For unambiguous
-reconstruction of the complete packet number by a receiver from the lower-order
-bits, a QUIC sender MUST NOT have more than 2^(packet_number_size - 2) in flight
-at any point in the connection.  In other words,
+(connection termination is described in {{termination}}.)
+
+To reduce the number of bits required to represent the packet number over the
+wire, only the least significant bits of the packet number are transmitted over
+the wire, up to 48 bits.  The actual packet number for each packet is
+reconstructed at the receiver based on the largest packet number received on a
+successfully authenticated packet.
+
+A packet number is decoded by finding the packet number value that is closest to
+the next expected packet.  The next expected packet is the highest received
</pre>
<blockquote>
<p>Smallest unacknowledged packet is undefined. A receiver has to give up on packets at some point, [...]</p>
</blockquote>
<p>By "smallest unacknowledged packet" I meant the "Smallest unacknowledged packet that has not been marked as lost (see {{QUIC-RECOVERY}})".  I was trying to be brief but caused some confusion.</p>
<blockquote>
<p>The sender should budget enough packet number space to send any available CWND in addition to the space needed for current outstanding packets.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>That would be an alternative way of solving this -- to always assume that you may need to distinctly address a large number of packets, even if right now you have few packets on the wire.  I am afraid that this defeats the purpose of variable-length packet numbers.  If you must always be ready for the worst case of packet loss/delay, you must always use the max possible packet number length for your connection.</p>
<p>Instead I am proposing that to each incoming packet number, the receiver alway prepends missing high-order bits from the "smallest unacknowledged packet that has not been marked as lost (i.e. still waited-for) (see {{QUIC-RECOVERY}})".  This is very easy to implement and solves the problem.</p>

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>  CONNECTION_CLOSE frame with the error code QUIC_SEQUENCE_NUMBER_LIMIT_REACHED
-(connection termination is described in {{termination}}.)  For unambiguous
-reconstruction of the complete packet number by a receiver from the lower-order
-bits, a QUIC sender MUST NOT have more than 2^(packet_number_size - 2) in flight
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+(connection termination is described in {{termination}}.)
+
+To reduce the number of bits required to represent the packet number over the
+wire, only the least significant bits of the packet number are transmitted over
+the wire, up to 48 bits.  The actual packet number for each packet is
+reconstructed at the receiver based on the largest packet number received on a
+successfully authenticated packet.
+
+A packet number is decoded by finding the packet number value that is closest to
+the next expected packet.  The next expected packet is the highest received

Loss recovery is implemented on the sender side, not the receiver side, so the receiver would not know what the smallest unacknowledged packet that has not been marked as lost is.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/299">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt;  CONNECTION_CLOSE frame with the error code QUIC_SEQUENCE_NUMBER_LIMIT_REACHED
-(connection termination is described in {{termination}}.)  For unambiguous
-reconstruction of the complete packet number by a receiver from the lower-order
-bits, a QUIC sender MUST NOT have more than 2^(packet_number_size - 2) in flight
-at any point in the connection.  In other words,
+(connection termination is described in {{termination}}.)
+
+To reduce the number of bits required to represent the packet number over the
+wire, only the least significant bits of the packet number are transmitted over
+the wire, up to 48 bits.  The actual packet number for each packet is
+reconstructed at the receiver based on the largest packet number received on a
+successfully authenticated packet.
+
+A packet number is decoded by finding the packet number value that is closest to
+the next expected packet.  The next expected packet is the highest received
</pre>
<p>Loss recovery is implemented on the sender side, not the receiver side, so the receiver would not know what the smallest unacknowledged packet that has not been marked as lost is.</p>

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>  CONNECTION_CLOSE frame with the error code QUIC_SEQUENCE_NUMBER_LIMIT_REACHED
-(connection termination is described in {{termination}}.)  For unambiguous
-reconstruction of the complete packet number by a receiver from the lower-order
-bits, a QUIC sender MUST NOT have more than 2^(packet_number_size - 2) in flight
-at any point in the connection.  In other words,
+(connection termination is described in {{termination}}.)
+
+To reduce the number of bits required to represent the packet number over the
+wire, only the least significant bits of the packet number are transmitted over
+the wire, up to 48 bits.  The actual packet number for each packet is
+reconstructed at the receiver based on the largest packet number received on a
+successfully authenticated packet.
+
+A packet number is decoded by finding the packet number value that is closest to
+the next expected packet.  The next expected packet is the highest received

Receiver would still need logic to stop reporting missing packets in ACKs at some point.  STOPWAITING was the mechanism for Sender to notify the Receiver of this. W/o STOPWAITING there would be some alternative mechanism (based on the number of packets, rtt estimate vs elapsed time since receipt of a packet with a higher number, etc.). It could feed from the same algorithm.

Anyway, I am open to any other reasonable specification that works for delayed packets.

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<p><b>@igorlord</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/299">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt;  CONNECTION_CLOSE frame with the error code QUIC_SEQUENCE_NUMBER_LIMIT_REACHED
-(connection termination is described in {{termination}}.)  For unambiguous
-reconstruction of the complete packet number by a receiver from the lower-order
-bits, a QUIC sender MUST NOT have more than 2^(packet_number_size - 2) in flight
-at any point in the connection.  In other words,
+(connection termination is described in {{termination}}.)
+
+To reduce the number of bits required to represent the packet number over the
+wire, only the least significant bits of the packet number are transmitted over
+the wire, up to 48 bits.  The actual packet number for each packet is
+reconstructed at the receiver based on the largest packet number received on a
+successfully authenticated packet.
+
+A packet number is decoded by finding the packet number value that is closest to
+the next expected packet.  The next expected packet is the highest received
</pre>
<p>Receiver would still need logic to stop reporting missing packets in ACKs at some point.  STOPWAITING was the mechanism for Sender to notify the Receiver of this. W/o STOPWAITING there would be some alternative mechanism (based on the number of packets, rtt estimate vs elapsed time since receipt of a packet with a higher number, etc.). It could feed from the same algorithm.</p>
<p>Anyway, I am open to any other reasonable specification that works for delayed packets.</p>

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>  CONNECTION_CLOSE frame with the error code QUIC_SEQUENCE_NUMBER_LIMIT_REACHED
-(connection termination is described in {{termination}}.)  For unambiguous
-reconstruction of the complete packet number by a receiver from the lower-order
-bits, a QUIC sender MUST NOT have more than 2^(packet_number_size - 2) in flight
-at any point in the connection.  In other words,
+(connection termination is described in {{termination}}.)
+
+To reduce the number of bits required to represent the packet number over the
+wire, only the least significant bits of the packet number are transmitted over
+the wire, up to 48 bits.  The actual packet number for each packet is
+reconstructed at the receiver based on the largest packet number received on a
+successfully authenticated packet.
+
+A packet number is decoded by finding the packet number value that is closest to
+the next expected packet.  The next expected packet is the highest received

The smallest packet a receiver is waiting for is relatively well defined, but I don't think it's what we want.  The goal of latching to the largest packet is to favor forward progress over handling unlimited reordering.  Otherwise a receiver may never give up on waiting for a packet, and the sender won't know that, causing issues.  Whereas the sender knows the largest packet the receiver has acked.

The sender has all the information to decide when it sends a packet how large the packet number space needs to be.  When coming out of quiescence, it needs to make the packet number slightly larger than otherwise necessary to accommodate large scale reordering, but that's a transitory issue and easy to implement.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/299">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt;  CONNECTION_CLOSE frame with the error code QUIC_SEQUENCE_NUMBER_LIMIT_REACHED
-(connection termination is described in {{termination}}.)  For unambiguous
-reconstruction of the complete packet number by a receiver from the lower-order
-bits, a QUIC sender MUST NOT have more than 2^(packet_number_size - 2) in flight
-at any point in the connection.  In other words,
+(connection termination is described in {{termination}}.)
+
+To reduce the number of bits required to represent the packet number over the
+wire, only the least significant bits of the packet number are transmitted over
+the wire, up to 48 bits.  The actual packet number for each packet is
+reconstructed at the receiver based on the largest packet number received on a
+successfully authenticated packet.
+
+A packet number is decoded by finding the packet number value that is closest to
+the next expected packet.  The next expected packet is the highest received
</pre>
<p>The smallest packet a receiver is waiting for is relatively well defined, but I don't think it's what we want.  The goal of latching to the largest packet is to favor forward progress over handling unlimited reordering.  Otherwise a receiver may never give up on waiting for a packet, and the sender won't know that, causing issues.  Whereas the sender knows the largest packet the receiver has acked.</p>
<p>The sender has all the information to decide when it sends a packet how large the packet number space needs to be.  When coming out of quiescence, it needs to make the packet number slightly larger than otherwise necessary to accommodate large scale reordering, but that's a transitory issue and easy to implement.</p>

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I understand why we don't want to recommend a specific fallback, but there's an implication here we may want to keep.  If you want to use QUIC with a fallback, that fallback should have roughly equivalent security properties or blocking QUIC is a downgrade attack.  So the DNS example might be falling back to DNS over DTLS, but it would *not* be falling back to plaintext UDP.  That may be better expressed in a document about which protocols could theoretically adopt QUIC than here, but I don't want to lose it entirely.

Note that I'm assuming here silent fallback, where the user is never told which protocols are in use under the hood.  I'm sure there are other choices for when the user is looped in, but I don't think those are QUIC's business.

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<p>I understand why we don't want to recommend a specific fallback, but the=
re's an implication here we may want to keep.  If you want to use QUIC with=
 a fallback, that fallback should have roughly equivalent security properti=
es or blocking QUIC is a downgrade attack.  So the DNS example might be fal=
ling back to DNS over DTLS, but it would <em>not</em> be falling back to pl=
aintext UDP.  That may be better expressed in a document about which protoc=
ols could theoretically adopt QUIC than here, but I don't want to lose it e=
ntirely.</p>
<p>Note that I'm assuming here silent fallback, where the user is never tol=
d which protocols are in use under the hood.  I'm sure there are other choi=
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Forgive the stupidity on my part, but why do PING frames really need access to the fast path? If a peer sends a PING to detect liveness and reachability, any other packet arriving will serve as a demonstration of that, right?  So the ACK of PING could be serviced right after the PING arrives (if things are quiescent) or after other frames bound to the same peer, and still get the same demonstration at the peer.  Or am I missing something?
 

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<p>Forgive the stupidity on my part, but why do PING frames really need a=
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Presumably because they can also be used to get a transit time measurement, though any other ACK-able frame would also provide the same effect.  That inclines me toward PING not being higher priority than anything else.  PING is the frame you send when you want to get an ACK, but aren't sending anything ACKable.  If you are, why did you send it?  If you aren't, there's no interference.

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It's worth pointing out that this absolutely requires authentication of the public header. Otherwise firewalls could zero out the greased bits to avoid potential information leakage.

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<p>It's worth pointing out that this absolutely requires authentication of the public header. Otherwise firewalls could zero out the greased bits to avoid potential information leakage.</p>

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Agreed. I think we have consensus on that point, but we should confirm on the list. (Google QUIC authenticates the public header.)

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<p>Agreed. I think we have consensus on that point, but we should confirm on the list. (Google QUIC authenticates the public header.)</p>

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Good points Ted.  I wonder whether DNS over QUIC would be done opportunistically or not.  That changes the calculations too.  No one currently has any real expectation that DNS is confidential (/me makes a sad face).

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7197aff  Integrate Ian's suggested text


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  Branch: refs/heads/transport_priority
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      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/7197aff9853d2664987b2bf26b9aa03efce6b334
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-16 (Thu, 16 Feb 2017)

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> +allow an endpoint to determine priority based on context; or it could leave the
+determination to the application.
+
+A QUIC implementation SHOULD provide ways in which an application can indicate
+the relative priority of streams.  When deciding which streams to dedicate
+resources to, QUIC SHOULD use the information provided by the application.
+Failure to account for priority of streams can result in suboptimal performance.
+
+Stream priority is most relevant when deciding which stream data will be
+transmitted.  Often, there will be limits on what can be transmitted as a result
+of connection flow control or the current congestion controller state.
+
+Giving preference to the transmission of its own management frames ensures that
+the protocol functions efficiently.  That is, prioritizing frames other than
+STREAM frames ensures that loss recovery, congestion control, and flow control
+operate effectively.  Prioritizing stream 1 over other streams ensures that the

Yeah, once the connection is up and the handshake is complete, all we have there is NewSessionTicket messages.  Those aren't actually high priority.  They could be safely given the lowest priority and everything would still work.  Worst case, the ticket gets delayed, you open a new connection and get hit with a stateless reject for source address validation or you fail to resume. 

I think that I will make this MUST strength, but add a condition that it only applies prior to the handshake completing.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/303#discussion_r101425740">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +allow an endpoint to determine priority based on context; or it could leave the
+determination to the application.
+
+A QUIC implementation SHOULD provide ways in which an application can indicate
+the relative priority of streams.  When deciding which streams to dedicate
+resources to, QUIC SHOULD use the information provided by the application.
+Failure to account for priority of streams can result in suboptimal performance.
+
+Stream priority is most relevant when deciding which stream data will be
+transmitted.  Often, there will be limits on what can be transmitted as a result
+of connection flow control or the current congestion controller state.
+
+Giving preference to the transmission of its own management frames ensures that
+the protocol functions efficiently.  That is, prioritizing frames other than
+STREAM frames ensures that loss recovery, congestion control, and flow control
+operate effectively.  Prioritizing stream 1 over other streams ensures that the
</pre>
<p>Yeah, once the connection is up and the handshake is complete, all we have there is NewSessionTicket messages.  Those aren't actually high priority.  They could be safely given the lowest priority and everything would still work.  Worst case, the ticket gets delayed, you open a new connection and get hit with a stateless reject for source address validation or you fail to resume.</p>
<p>I think that I will make this MUST strength, but add a condition that it only applies prior to the handshake completing.</p>

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>           lost_packets.insert(unacked_packet.packet_number);
-       else if (unacked_packet.packet_number <
-                acked_packet.packet_number - reordering_threshold)
+       else if (delta > reordering_threshold)

Ugh, I realized this yesterday, fixed it, but failed to push the update.  On it.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/304#discussion_r101425844">draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt;           lost_packets.insert(unacked_packet.packet_number);
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  Branch: refs/heads/figure_line_length
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This requires positive identification of short vs. long form.  I think that it also fixes the size of the space in which long form packets can be sent.  If the next version of the protocol needs an additional long-form packet, then n_long increases and greased packets suddenly fall into different slots.

That's not workable if you ever want to change this protocol.  I believe that long form packets are most in need of this sort of protection - experience with TLS shows that issues are most likely to occur on the very first packet.  That doesn't mean that greasing the short form isn't valuable, it's just that greasing the initial packets is more important.  We need to balance that with having an escape valve - a way to deploy a new version of the protocol.

We could say that version has to be understood before identifying type (else, send a version negotiation packet and don't grease type there).  That requires that only long form packets either be distinct from short form or that only long form packets arrive prior to establishing state. The latter of these doesn't work in light of NAT rebinding, since short form packets will arrive with no context.  That leads me to conclude the distinguishing long and short is still useful.

So we say that long form packets are identified by some clearly defined operation.  Pick a permutation operation. &0x08 or &0x80 could work, or even something like n%3!=1 so that there can be twice as many long form layouts as short form.  After that you know that version is present and can use version to determine if you even have a hope of recovering the type.

Here is where I think @marten-seemann is right about packing the space of valid codepoints.  A sparsely populated space makes this easier to build.  A complicated PRP hurts, especially since this octet is likely to to need hardware implementation.  That accepts that greasing the type loses any hope of preserving bitwise compatibility with Google-QUIC (why didn't anyone pick up on that in Jana's proposal, or am I just being dense through severe lack of sleep?).

That means that adding a new long form packet layout and type requires a new version.  I think that's a perfectly reasonable compromise.

Short form packets are easier in a way: since those are only exchanged after version negotiation, the only wrinkle is how they are managed after NAT rebinding.  For that, the connection ID remains our best way to ensure that they can be correctly recovered.  Once the server can correlate the packet with a connection, then it's easy to recover type.

@martinduke, @RyanAtGoogle, see #302.

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<p>This requires positive identification of short vs. long form.  I think t=
hat it also fixes the size of the space in which long form packets can be s=
ent.  If the next version of the protocol needs an additional long-form pac=
ket, then n_long increases and greased packets suddenly fall into different=
 slots.</p>
<p>That's not workable if you ever want to change this protocol.  I believe=
 that long form packets are most in need of this sort of protection - exper=
ience with TLS shows that issues are most likely to occur on the very first=
 packet.  That doesn't mean that greasing the short form isn't valuable, it=
's just that greasing the initial packets is more important.  We need to ba=
lance that with having an escape valve - a way to deploy a new version of t=
he protocol.</p>
<p>We could say that version has to be understood before identifying type (=
else, send a version negotiation packet and don't grease type there).  That=
 requires that only long form packets either be distinct from short form or=
 that only long form packets arrive prior to establishing state. The latter=
 of these doesn't work in light of NAT rebinding, since short form packets =
will arrive with no context.  That leads me to conclude the distinguishing =
long and short is still useful.</p>
<p>So we say that long form packets are identified by some clearly defined =
operation.  Pick a permutation operation. &amp;0x08 or &amp;0x80 could work=
, or even something like n%3!=3D1 so that there can be twice as many long f=
orm layouts as short form.  After that you know that version is present and=
 can use version to determine if you even have a hope of recovering the typ=
e.</p>
<p>Here is where I think <a href=3D"https://github.com/marten-seemann" clas=
s=3D"user-mention">@marten-seemann</a> is right about packing the space of =
valid codepoints.  A sparsely populated space makes this easier to build.  =
A complicated PRP hurts, especially since this octet is likely to to need h=
ardware implementation.  That accepts that greasing the type loses any hope=
 of preserving bitwise compatibility with Google-QUIC (why didn't anyone pi=
ck up on that in Jana's proposal, or am I just being dense through severe l=
ack of sleep?).</p>
<p>That means that adding a new long form packet layout and type requires a=
 new version.  I think that's a perfectly reasonable compromise.</p>
<p>Short form packets are easier in a way: since those are only exchanged a=
fter version negotiation, the only wrinkle is how they are managed after NA=
T rebinding.  For that, the connection ID remains our best way to ensure th=
at they can be correctly recovered.  Once the server can correlate the pack=
et with a connection, then it's easy to recover type.</p>
<p><a href=3D"https://github.com/martinduke" class=3D"user-mention">@martin=
duke</a>, <a href=3D"https://github.com/RyanAtGoogle" class=3D"user-mention=
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ull/302" class=3D"issue-link js-issue-link" data-url=3D"https://github.com/=
quicwg/base-drafts/issues/302" data-id=3D"207415764" data-error-text=3D"Fai=
led to load issue title" data-permission-text=3D"Issue title is private">#3=
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FWIW, I've fixed this in #304, but only for this specific function.  The same problem exists in other functions.

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<p>FWIW, I've fixed this in <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/304" class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/304" data-id="207675238" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-permission-text="Issue title is private">#304</a>, but only for this specific function.  The same problem exists in other functions.</p>

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  Branch: refs/heads/master
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@ianswett, your point being that if you have a collision on connection ID + source IP + source port then you have won the lottery and you might as well give up (chances are that this is a badly busted client).  Otherwise, the server can pick a new connection ID during the handshake and avoid collisions.  That WFM.

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I think this is input for the applicability statement. It's partly in section 2.1 of draft-kuehlewind-quic-appman but only talking about fallback to TLS/TCP. We didn't consider the DTLS/UDP case; should add that.

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<p>I think this is input for the applicability statement. It's partly in section 2.1 of draft-kuehlewind-quic-appman but only talking about fallback to TLS/TCP. We didn't consider the DTLS/UDP case; should add that.</p>

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ianswett approved this pull request.

One nit on consistency, but looks good.

> @@ -406,7 +406,7 @@ Pseudocode for OnAlarm follows:
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      lost_packets = DetectLostPackets(acked_packet);

Below you changed DetectLostPackets to accept acked, but here it's still acked_packet.

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<p><b>@ianswett</b> approved this pull request.</p>

<p>One nit on consistency, but looks good.</p><hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/304#discussion_r101548998">draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -406,7 +406,7 @@ Pseudocode for OnAlarm follows:
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<p>Below you changed DetectLostPackets to accept acked, but here it's still acked_packet.</p>

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ianswett commented on this pull request.



> +allow an endpoint to determine priority based on context; or it could leave the
+determination to the application.
+
+A QUIC implementation SHOULD provide ways in which an application can indicate
+the relative priority of streams.  When deciding which streams to dedicate
+resources to, QUIC SHOULD use the information provided by the application.
+Failure to account for priority of streams can result in suboptimal performance.
+
+Stream priority is most relevant when deciding which stream data will be
+transmitted.  Often, there will be limits on what can be transmitted as a result
+of connection flow control or the current congestion controller state.
+
+Giving preference to the transmission of its own management frames ensures that
+the protocol functions efficiently.  That is, prioritizing frames other than
+STREAM frames ensures that loss recovery, congestion control, and flow control
+operate effectively.  Prioritizing stream 1 over other streams ensures that the

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<p><b>@ianswett</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/303#discussion_r101556085">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +allow an endpoint to determine priority based on context; or it could leave the
+determination to the application.
+
+A QUIC implementation SHOULD provide ways in which an application can indicate
+the relative priority of streams.  When deciding which streams to dedicate
+resources to, QUIC SHOULD use the information provided by the application.
+Failure to account for priority of streams can result in suboptimal performance.
+
+Stream priority is most relevant when deciding which stream data will be
+transmitted.  Often, there will be limits on what can be transmitted as a result
+of connection flow control or the current congestion controller state.
+
+Giving preference to the transmission of its own management frames ensures that
+the protocol functions efficiently.  That is, prioritizing frames other than
+STREAM frames ensures that loss recovery, congestion control, and flow control
+operate effectively.  Prioritizing stream 1 over other streams ensures that the
</pre>
<p>SGTM</p>

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<p><b>@ianswett</b> approved this pull request.</p>



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Now that I've thought about it more, I think the best rule is to not ack acks, and if the peer wants an RTT measurement, it can use a PING frame.  Acking acks just feels odd.  So I suggest we remove the text about acking every 20 acks.

In regards to limiting PING frames, there are lots of ways to waste time and bandwidth.  In TCP or QUIC, you can send a bunch of packets with single byte payloads, which the peer would also ack.  I'm not sure what you mean about fast path?  A PING frame would be acked at whatever rate other ACK-able packets are.  

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<p>Now that I've thought about it more, I think the best rule is to not a=
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me and bandwidth.  In TCP or QUIC, you can send a bunch of packets with s=
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u mean about fast path?  A PING frame would be acked at whatever rate oth=
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I don't think we need this. I'd like to close this issue since I didn't / don't see anyone asking for it.

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<p>I don't think we need this. I'd like to close this issue since I didn't / don't see anyone asking for it.</p>

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I misinterpreted Martin's proposal as asking for it, so closing this.

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<p>I misinterpreted Martin's proposal as asking for it, so closing this.</p>

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Closed #292.

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I believe a plausible solution is for the server to supply the client a list of all type byte codepoints in the ServerHello that have been defined in versions subsequent to this connection's version and the server supports, and hence should not be greased by the client.  And greasing would never be done until the handshake completes, of course.

This is not that elegant, but ensures all codepoints are in use at all times, either by valid connections or by greasing the value.

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<p>I believe a plausible solution is for the server to supply the client =
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pports, and hence should not be greased by the client.  And greasing woul=
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<p>This is not that elegant, but ensures all codepoints are in use at all=
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  Branch: refs/heads/master
  Home:   https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts
  Commit: 485839413fe4dff72790ae2cfa8e06f52b8d6161
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/485839413fe4dff72790ae2cfa8e06f52b8d6161
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-09 (Thu, 09 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Move length-determining fields to the start of STREAM and ACK


  Commit: 5cf69e80781d829df2cdabe9c31119ce72c0c0aa
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  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #277 from quicwg/move_frame_lengths

Move length-determining fields to the start of STREAM and ACK


Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/6c23d0699183...5cf69e80781d
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Maybe I'm missing something, but if the handshake has completed and we know what version is in use, why do we care if the client collides with a value defined in a different version?  Server should interpret based on the agreed version, and if something that was grease becomes valid in a different version... that's kind of the point.

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  Branch: refs/heads/master
  Home:   https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts
  Commit: ba4ae1a26c434332866b3adc4f06e3f42987d2ad
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  Log Message:
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  Stream 1 counts toward MSPC


  Commit: d03bd182225dba9c1bf8a5ca49d5117e2e2fddbf
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  Merge pull request #282 from quicwg/MSPC_zero

Stream 1 counts toward MSPC


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  Random initial packet number


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  Merge pull request #283 from quicwg/packet0number

Random initial packet number


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> @@ -406,7 +406,7 @@ Pseudocode for OnAlarm follows:
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      lost_packets = DetectLostPackets(acked_packet);

Yes, I figured that it would be OK to change the name of a "local" variable in that context.  I was going to change this, but then I have to change a bunch of other things and it started to cascade.  I'll let you sort that mess out :)

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/304#discussion_r101662474">draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -406,7 +406,7 @@ Pseudocode for OnAlarm follows:
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  Add a check for excessive line length in figures


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  Making more extensive changes


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a9d25dd  Merge branch 'master' into ianswett-patch-3


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  Branch: refs/heads/ianswett-patch-3
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  Date:   2017-02-09 (Thu, 09 Feb 2017)

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  Move length-determining fields to the start of STREAM and ACK


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  Date:   2017-02-10 (Fri, 10 Feb 2017)

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  Stream 1 counts toward MSPC


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  Random initial packet number


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  Merge pull request #277 from quicwg/move_frame_lengths

Move length-determining fields to the start of STREAM and ACK


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Stream 1 counts toward MSPC


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  Merge pull request #283 from quicwg/packet0number

Random initial packet number


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Add a check for excessive line length in figures


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I've corrected the errors that were in this patch by folding a bunch of lines.

Ian, you are quite inconsistent with a few things in the diagrams
* the use of semi-colons at the end of statements
* `x` vs `*` for multiplication

That shouldn't block this PR, but it's probably worth fixing separately.

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<p>I've corrected the errors that were in this patch by folding a bunch o=
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  Branch: refs/heads/short_abstract
  Home:   https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts
  Commit: 5d8cd38aed89ead66c990519ebe041d73886a3c0
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  Shorten the abstract

The abstract is a direct copy of the intro.  We don't need to repeat ourselves.
This just keeps the important information.


  Commit: 752537cc977b99a6c1aee069ec6d71e77dd0e6ae
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  Commit: 996f3aa9632f39a1394db70a5b2fcd1ffa277891
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Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/0c3d1d0ed216...996f3aa9632f
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@janaiyengar, I've edited your suggestion down and created a lengthier abstract.  I think that this is worse, but I'm trying an experiment in compromise.

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janaiyengar approved this pull request.

LGTM -- the new text is much better!



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<p><b>@janaiyengar</b> approved this pull request.</p>

<p>LGTM -- the new text is much better!</p>

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<p>Closed <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/285" class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/285" data-id="206725885" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-permission-text="Issue title is private">#285</a> via <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/288" class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/288" data-id="206737133" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-permission-text="Issue title is private">#288</a>.</p>

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  Branch: refs/heads/master
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  Rewrite text on packet numbers


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  Merge pull request #288 from quicwg/cleanup_packet_number

Cleanup packet number text


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  Branch: refs/heads/master
  Home:   https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts
  Commit: 11983677875c23cb1d6f54844acdf6c6a7311b9f
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  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-14 (Tue, 14 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Refine retransmission rules


  Commit: 49e0ca0c0a5d2bf72f4524e23f82b249bdfc3228
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  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-15 (Wed, 15 Feb 2017)

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  Log Message:
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  Updated information in ACK follows rules defined for the frame


  Commit: 983c2053430f5374119ff44becb64416075a162e
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/983c2053430f5374119ff44becb64416075a162e
  Author: janaiyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-16 (Thu, 16 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #298 from quicwg/frames_arent_retransmitted

Refine retransmission rules


Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/71d0d5b61357...983c2053430f
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Merged #298.

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janaiyengar commented on this pull request.

I think this PR needs to be rebased.



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<p>I think this PR needs to be rebased.</p>

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janaiyengar approved this pull request.

LGTM, but looks like there are conflicts now.



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<p><b>@janaiyengar</b> approved this pull request.</p>

<p>LGTM, but looks like there are conflicts now.</p>

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janaiyengar commented on this pull request.

One typo, but LGTM otherwise

> @@ -1020,19 +1021,20 @@ An ACK frame is shown below.
 
 The fields in the ACK frame are as follows:
 
-* Largest Acked: A variable-sized unsigned value representing the largest packet
-  number the peer is acking in this packet (typically the largest that the peer
-  has seen thus far.)
+* Largest Received: A variable-sized unsigned value representing the largest

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<p><b>@janaiyengar</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

<p>One typo, but LGTM otherwise</p><hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/306#discussion_r101694582">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -1020,19 +1021,20 @@ An ACK frame is shown below.
 
 The fields in the ACK frame are as follows:
 
-* Largest Acked: A variable-sized unsigned value representing the largest packet
-  number the peer is acking in this packet (typically the largest that the peer
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  Branch: refs/heads/redefine_outstanding
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  PADDING is a single 0 octet


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PADDING is a single 0 octet


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  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-14 (Tue, 14 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-http.md

  Log Message:
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  Give figures numbers, correct PRIORITY caption (#301)


  Commit: 8157c3f99d63d4a82b434b0389ed718aa7354aa1
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/8157c3f99d63d4a82b434b0389ed718aa7354aa1
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-15 (Wed, 15 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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    M draft-ietf-quic-http.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Police the creation of long lines


  Commit: 7b962e8d7e847ab15583cda18495e0b2d09d1c4c
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/7b962e8d7e847ab15583cda18495e0b2d09d1c4c
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-15 (Wed, 15 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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    M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Add a check for excessive line length in figures


  Commit: 49e0ca0c0a5d2bf72f4524e23f82b249bdfc3228
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/49e0ca0c0a5d2bf72f4524e23f82b249bdfc3228
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-15 (Wed, 15 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Updated information in ACK follows rules defined for the frame


  Commit: 31b92d296b28aa45506acdb223c7d9e7dbbc8c32
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/31b92d296b28aa45506acdb223c7d9e7dbbc8c32
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-15 (Wed, 15 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md

  Log Message:
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  Making more extensive changes


  Commit: 6c23d06991834e22ce061ce479f1b8d0a8ae370e
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/6c23d06991834e22ce061ce479f1b8d0a8ae370e
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-15 (Wed, 15 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-http.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Sean isn't a double-editor


  Commit: 51d962b999179193ec0530dd56c8fe61948d4c2d
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/51d962b999179193ec0530dd56c8fe61948d4c2d
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-16 (Thu, 16 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md

  Log Message:
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  Using Ian's suggested names


  Commit: 5cf69e80781d829df2cdabe9c31119ce72c0c0aa
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/5cf69e80781d829df2cdabe9c31119ce72c0c0aa
  Author: janaiyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-16 (Thu, 16 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #277 from quicwg/move_frame_lengths

Move length-determining fields to the start of STREAM and ACK


  Commit: d03bd182225dba9c1bf8a5ca49d5117e2e2fddbf
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/d03bd182225dba9c1bf8a5ca49d5117e2e2fddbf
  Author: janaiyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-16 (Thu, 16 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #282 from quicwg/MSPC_zero

Stream 1 counts toward MSPC


  Commit: 56b5a417e04955c7809b61f95ec865627e7fe4c6
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/56b5a417e04955c7809b61f95ec865627e7fe4c6
  Author: janaiyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-16 (Thu, 16 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #283 from quicwg/packet0number

Random initial packet number


  Commit: da282a730da8a2396d2a5a540fbf783377f4acb6
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/da282a730da8a2396d2a5a540fbf783377f4acb6
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M Makefile
    M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #304 from quicwg/figure_line_length

Add a check for excessive line length in figures


  Commit: 71d0d5b613570339bf5a2cf22ff26edb48e068e0
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/71d0d5b613570339bf5a2cf22ff26edb48e068e0
  Author: janaiyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-16 (Thu, 16 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #288 from quicwg/cleanup_packet_number

Cleanup packet number text


  Commit: 983c2053430f5374119ff44becb64416075a162e
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/983c2053430f5374119ff44becb64416075a162e
  Author: janaiyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-16 (Thu, 16 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #298 from quicwg/frames_arent_retransmitted

Refine retransmission rules


  Commit: 8817ef0f3e01387437dc5d56b05b7b0dcba6b074
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/8817ef0f3e01387437dc5d56b05b7b0dcba6b074
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M Makefile
    M circle.yml
    M draft-ietf-quic-http.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Merge branch 'master' into redefine_outstanding


Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/c5d53f595e99...8817ef0f3e01
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Rebased.  De-conflicting multiple in-flight pull requests is hard.

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<p>Rebased.  De-conflicting multiple in-flight pull requests is hard.</p>

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  Branch: refs/heads/transport_priority
  Home:   https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts
  Commit: 485839413fe4dff72790ae2cfa8e06f52b8d6161
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  Date:   2017-02-09 (Thu, 09 Feb 2017)

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  Move length-determining fields to the start of STREAM and ACK


  Commit: ba4ae1a26c434332866b3adc4f06e3f42987d2ad
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/ba4ae1a26c434332866b3adc4f06e3f42987d2ad
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-10 (Fri, 10 Feb 2017)

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  Stream 1 counts toward MSPC


  Commit: c8972c657252968e17af09ccd1121c14b3290fb8
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c8972c657252968e17af09ccd1121c14b3290fb8
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-10 (Fri, 10 Feb 2017)

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  Random initial packet number


  Commit: 467b6a417318d321666b3257d9448feb978e354c
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  Date:   2017-02-10 (Fri, 10 Feb 2017)

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  Rewrite text on packet numbers


  Commit: 49c2f4a7e942daa238624fc5a64d925add22b535
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  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-13 (Mon, 13 Feb 2017)

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  Ian had some comments


  Commit: 11983677875c23cb1d6f54844acdf6c6a7311b9f
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  Date:   2017-02-14 (Tue, 14 Feb 2017)

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  Refine retransmission rules


  Commit: 23545b32c375e94e00f3c888e665db0023e28ad6
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/23545b32c375e94e00f3c888e665db0023e28ad6
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-14 (Tue, 14 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-http.md

  Log Message:
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  Give figures numbers, correct PRIORITY caption (#301)


  Commit: 8157c3f99d63d4a82b434b0389ed718aa7354aa1
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/8157c3f99d63d4a82b434b0389ed718aa7354aa1
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-15 (Wed, 15 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M Makefile
    M draft-ietf-quic-http.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Police the creation of long lines


  Commit: 7b962e8d7e847ab15583cda18495e0b2d09d1c4c
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/7b962e8d7e847ab15583cda18495e0b2d09d1c4c
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-15 (Wed, 15 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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    M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Add a check for excessive line length in figures


  Commit: 49e0ca0c0a5d2bf72f4524e23f82b249bdfc3228
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/49e0ca0c0a5d2bf72f4524e23f82b249bdfc3228
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-15 (Wed, 15 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Updated information in ACK follows rules defined for the frame


  Commit: 31b92d296b28aa45506acdb223c7d9e7dbbc8c32
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/31b92d296b28aa45506acdb223c7d9e7dbbc8c32
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-15 (Wed, 15 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md

  Log Message:
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  Making more extensive changes


  Commit: 6c23d06991834e22ce061ce479f1b8d0a8ae370e
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/6c23d06991834e22ce061ce479f1b8d0a8ae370e
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-15 (Wed, 15 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-http.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Sean isn't a double-editor


  Commit: 51d962b999179193ec0530dd56c8fe61948d4c2d
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/51d962b999179193ec0530dd56c8fe61948d4c2d
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-16 (Thu, 16 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md

  Log Message:
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  Using Ian's suggested names


  Commit: 5cf69e80781d829df2cdabe9c31119ce72c0c0aa
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/5cf69e80781d829df2cdabe9c31119ce72c0c0aa
  Author: janaiyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-16 (Thu, 16 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #277 from quicwg/move_frame_lengths

Move length-determining fields to the start of STREAM and ACK


  Commit: d03bd182225dba9c1bf8a5ca49d5117e2e2fddbf
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/d03bd182225dba9c1bf8a5ca49d5117e2e2fddbf
  Author: janaiyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-16 (Thu, 16 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #282 from quicwg/MSPC_zero

Stream 1 counts toward MSPC


  Commit: 56b5a417e04955c7809b61f95ec865627e7fe4c6
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/56b5a417e04955c7809b61f95ec865627e7fe4c6
  Author: janaiyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-16 (Thu, 16 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #283 from quicwg/packet0number

Random initial packet number


  Commit: da282a730da8a2396d2a5a540fbf783377f4acb6
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/da282a730da8a2396d2a5a540fbf783377f4acb6
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M Makefile
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    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

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  Merge pull request #304 from quicwg/figure_line_length

Add a check for excessive line length in figures


  Commit: 71d0d5b613570339bf5a2cf22ff26edb48e068e0
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/71d0d5b613570339bf5a2cf22ff26edb48e068e0
  Author: janaiyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-16 (Thu, 16 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

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  Merge pull request #288 from quicwg/cleanup_packet_number

Cleanup packet number text


  Commit: 983c2053430f5374119ff44becb64416075a162e
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/983c2053430f5374119ff44becb64416075a162e
  Author: janaiyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-16 (Thu, 16 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #298 from quicwg/frames_arent_retransmitted

Refine retransmission rules


  Commit: d8911972c6bc142eed1bb7f789c46f74d53e0645
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/d8911972c6bc142eed1bb7f789c46f74d53e0645
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M Makefile
    M draft-ietf-quic-http.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Merge branch 'master' into transport_priority


Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/7197aff9853d...d8911972c6bc
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d891197  Merge branch 'master' into transport_priority


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3764464  Merge branch 'master' into ack_in_full


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Conflict and typo corrected.

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      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/485839413fe4dff72790ae2cfa8e06f52b8d6161
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-09 (Thu, 09 Feb 2017)

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  Move length-determining fields to the start of STREAM and ACK


  Commit: ba4ae1a26c434332866b3adc4f06e3f42987d2ad
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/ba4ae1a26c434332866b3adc4f06e3f42987d2ad
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-10 (Fri, 10 Feb 2017)

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  Stream 1 counts toward MSPC


  Commit: c8972c657252968e17af09ccd1121c14b3290fb8
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c8972c657252968e17af09ccd1121c14b3290fb8
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-10 (Fri, 10 Feb 2017)

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  Random initial packet number


  Commit: 467b6a417318d321666b3257d9448feb978e354c
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/467b6a417318d321666b3257d9448feb978e354c
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-10 (Fri, 10 Feb 2017)

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  Rewrite text on packet numbers


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  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-13 (Mon, 13 Feb 2017)

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  Ian had some comments


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      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/11983677875c23cb1d6f54844acdf6c6a7311b9f
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-14 (Tue, 14 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Refine retransmission rules


  Commit: 7b962e8d7e847ab15583cda18495e0b2d09d1c4c
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/7b962e8d7e847ab15583cda18495e0b2d09d1c4c
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-15 (Wed, 15 Feb 2017)

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  Add a check for excessive line length in figures


  Commit: 49e0ca0c0a5d2bf72f4524e23f82b249bdfc3228
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/49e0ca0c0a5d2bf72f4524e23f82b249bdfc3228
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-15 (Wed, 15 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Updated information in ACK follows rules defined for the frame


  Commit: 31b92d296b28aa45506acdb223c7d9e7dbbc8c32
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/31b92d296b28aa45506acdb223c7d9e7dbbc8c32
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  Date:   2017-02-15 (Wed, 15 Feb 2017)

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  Making more extensive changes


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      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/6c23d06991834e22ce061ce479f1b8d0a8ae370e
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  Date:   2017-02-15 (Wed, 15 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Sean isn't a double-editor


  Commit: 51d962b999179193ec0530dd56c8fe61948d4c2d
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/51d962b999179193ec0530dd56c8fe61948d4c2d
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-16 (Thu, 16 Feb 2017)

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  Log Message:
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  Using Ian's suggested names


  Commit: 5cf69e80781d829df2cdabe9c31119ce72c0c0aa
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/5cf69e80781d829df2cdabe9c31119ce72c0c0aa
  Author: janaiyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-16 (Thu, 16 Feb 2017)

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  Merge pull request #277 from quicwg/move_frame_lengths

Move length-determining fields to the start of STREAM and ACK


  Commit: d03bd182225dba9c1bf8a5ca49d5117e2e2fddbf
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  Date:   2017-02-16 (Thu, 16 Feb 2017)

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  Merge pull request #282 from quicwg/MSPC_zero

Stream 1 counts toward MSPC


  Commit: 56b5a417e04955c7809b61f95ec865627e7fe4c6
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  Author: janaiyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-16 (Thu, 16 Feb 2017)

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  Merge pull request #283 from quicwg/packet0number

Random initial packet number


  Commit: da282a730da8a2396d2a5a540fbf783377f4acb6
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  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Merge pull request #304 from quicwg/figure_line_length

Add a check for excessive line length in figures


  Commit: 71d0d5b613570339bf5a2cf22ff26edb48e068e0
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  Author: janaiyengar <jri@google.com>
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  Changed paths:
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  Merge pull request #288 from quicwg/cleanup_packet_number

Cleanup packet number text


  Commit: 983c2053430f5374119ff44becb64416075a162e
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/983c2053430f5374119ff44becb64416075a162e
  Author: janaiyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-16 (Thu, 16 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Merge pull request #298 from quicwg/frames_arent_retransmitted

Refine retransmission rules


  Commit: 3764464f8afcda0d85501e6b9ed8f844d48ed5ec
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/3764464f8afcda0d85501e6b9ed8f844d48ed5ec
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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    M draft-ietf-quic-http.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Merge branch 'master' into ack_in_full


Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/de556919e7bc...3764464f8afc
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I like the terser abstract.

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<p>I like the terser abstract.</p>

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Saving us a GENART comment about a missing reference for MPTCP.
You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/312

-- Commit Summary --

  * Adding an informative reference for MPTCP.

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    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (2)

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<p>Saving us a GENART comment about a missing reference for MPTCP.</p>

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<h4>You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:</h4>
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<h4>Commit Summary</h4>
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  <li>Adding an informative reference for MPTCP.</li>
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    <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/312/files#diff-0">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>
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  <li><a href='https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/312.patch'>https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/312.patch</a></li>
  <li><a href='https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/312.diff'>https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/312.diff</a></li>
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ianswett approved this pull request.

This also looks fine to me.



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<p><b>@ianswett</b> approved this pull request.</p>

<p>This also looks fine to me.</p>

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I was waiting for Jana, but yes, at this point, I'll merge and fix all the issues which have come up since then.

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  Branch: refs/heads/master
  Home:   https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts
  Commit: e1002e53187065b801266cd83c86f0ce16a30b6b
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/e1002e53187065b801266cd83c86f0ce16a30b6b
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  Add handshake retransmissions (#266)

* Add handshake retransmissions

* Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md

* Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md

* Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md

Add some text on handshake state transitions cancelling handshake frames.

* Fix Ian's trailing whitespace

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  Branch: refs/heads/ianswett-patch-1
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  Log Message:
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  Fix recovery formatting

* Replace uses of encrypted with protected.
* Constistenly use * instead of x everywhere for multiplication
* Remove trailing ;
* Convert the constants and variables into Kramdown definition lists.



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* Replace uses of encrypted with protected.
* Constistenly use * instead of x everywhere for multiplication
* Remove trailing ;
* Convert the constants and variables into Kramdown definition lists.
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-- Commit Summary --

  * Fix recovery formatting

-- File Changes --

    M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md (153)

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<ul>
<li>Replace uses of encrypted with protected.</li>
<li>Constistenly use * instead of x everywhere for multiplication</li>
<li>Remove trailing ;</li>
<li>Convert the constants and variables into Kramdown definition lists.</li>
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  <li>Fix recovery formatting</li>
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    <strong>M</strong>
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>  CONNECTION_CLOSE frame with the error code QUIC_SEQUENCE_NUMBER_LIMIT_REACHED
-(connection termination is described in {{termination}}.)  For unambiguous
-reconstruction of the complete packet number by a receiver from the lower-order
-bits, a QUIC sender MUST NOT have more than 2^(packet_number_size - 2) in flight
-at any point in the connection.  In other words,
+(connection termination is described in {{termination}}.)
+
+To reduce the number of bits required to represent the packet number over the
+wire, only the least significant bits of the packet number are transmitted over
+the wire, up to 48 bits.  The actual packet number for each packet is
+reconstructed at the receiver based on the largest packet number received on a
+successfully authenticated packet.
+
+A packet number is decoded by finding the packet number value that is closest to
+the next expected packet.  The next expected packet is the highest received

I see. So you are worried that in the absence of STOPWAITING, the Sender may decide that packet 10  has been lost, and not consider it outstanding, and use short packet numbers; while the Receiver is still waiting for packet 10.

Maybe I missed it in the updated spec, but I thought that  the Receiver will keep mentioning packets it is still waiting for in Acks. If that's not true, it makes sense to keep the current behavior.

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<p><b>@igorlord</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/299#discussion_r101763148">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt;  CONNECTION_CLOSE frame with the error code QUIC_SEQUENCE_NUMBER_LIMIT_REACHED
-(connection termination is described in {{termination}}.)  For unambiguous
-reconstruction of the complete packet number by a receiver from the lower-order
-bits, a QUIC sender MUST NOT have more than 2^(packet_number_size - 2) in flight
-at any point in the connection.  In other words,
+(connection termination is described in {{termination}}.)
+
+To reduce the number of bits required to represent the packet number over the
+wire, only the least significant bits of the packet number are transmitted over
+the wire, up to 48 bits.  The actual packet number for each packet is
+reconstructed at the receiver based on the largest packet number received on a
+successfully authenticated packet.
+
+A packet number is decoded by finding the packet number value that is closest to
+the next expected packet.  The next expected packet is the highest received
</pre>
<p>I see. So you are worried that in the absence of STOPWAITING, the Sender may decide that packet 10  has been lost, and not consider it outstanding, and use short packet numbers; while the Receiver is still waiting for packet 10.</p>
<p>Maybe I missed it in the updated spec, but I thought that  the Receiver will keep mentioning packets it is still waiting for in Acks. If that's not true, it makes sense to keep the current behavior.</p>

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For some of the non-security folks, I could see that the phase "under crypto cover" might not make sense (from s3.5:

    Some early handshake packets, such as the Version Negotiation packet, are not encrypted, but information sent in these unencrypted handshake packets is later verified under crypto cover.

Maybe:

  Some early handshake packets, such as the Version Negotiation packet, are not encrypted, but information sent in these unencrypted handshake packets are later verified as part of the cryptographic processing.

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<p>For some of the non-security folks, I could see that the phase "under crypto cover" might not make sense (from s3.5:</p>
<pre><code>Some early handshake packets, such as the Version Negotiation packet, are not encrypted, but information sent in these unencrypted handshake packets is later verified under crypto cover.
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<p>Maybe:</p>
<p>Some early handshake packets, such as the Version Negotiation packet, are not encrypted, but information sent in these unencrypted handshake packets are later verified as part of the cryptographic processing.</p>

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Say there word "random" add a reference to RFC4086/BCP106.
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<p>Say there word "random" add a reference to RFC4086/BCP106.</p>

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7020268  Fixing spaces; hopefully this will fix the Travis issue as well.


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  Branch: refs/heads/quic_trans-mptcp-ref
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  Branch: refs/heads/ianswett-patch-1
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37a4af7  Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md


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There is a very real practical concern Google and others may have in the near future, which is that we may want IETF-QUIC to not grease codepoints still in use by GQUIC.  But that's not the reason I came up with this originally.

Here's my weak argument, maybe others can do better: If a client comes in from a new IP/Port, then the server has to know how to decode the packet and it can't use version, because it's unknown(unless the server only supports one version, and this is moot).  If connection ID is always the same length in the same location, then I believe there's no issue, but otherwise mapping a packet back to it's connection is impossible or speculative.

I think this is more of a challenge for a load balancer that's not terminating the connection than one that is, particularly if one wants that load balancer to be relatively or completely stateless.

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<p>There is a very real practical concern Google and others may have in the=
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still in use by GQUIC.  But that's not the reason I came up with this origi=
nally.</p>
<p>Here's my weak argument, maybe others can do better: If a client comes i=
n from a new IP/Port, then the server has to know how to decode the packet =
and it can't use version, because it's unknown(unless the server only suppo=
rts one version, and this is moot).  If connection ID is always the same le=
ngth in the same location, then I believe there's no issue, but otherwise m=
apping a packet back to it's connection is impossible or speculative.</p>
<p>I think this is more of a challenge for a load balancer that's not termi=
nating the connection than one that is, particularly if one wants that load=
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Replaces with cryptographic, and replaces "crypto cover" with "cryptographic processing"
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-- Commit Summary --

  * Removes use of the word crypto

-- File Changes --

    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (120)

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<p>Replaces with cryptographic, and replaces "crypto cover" with "cryptographic processing"</p>

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<h4>You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:</h4>
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<h4>Commit Summary</h4>
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  <li>Removes use of the word crypto</li>
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<h4>File Changes</h4>
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    <strong>M</strong>
    <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/316/files#diff-0">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>
    (120)
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  Branch: refs/heads/master
  Home:   https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts
  Commit: 647c11cbe1b41182633f1440dcc49ac2bcfc172a
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  Changed paths:
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  Use the word "acknowledge" in full when used in prose.


  Commit: de556919e7bc669f28f2d5e0f6a5c16629fbf5f3
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  Fix line lengths


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  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

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    M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md
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  Merge branch 'master' into ack_in_full


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  Merge pull request #306 from quicwg/ack_in_full

Use the word "acknowledge" in full when used in prose


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  Branch: refs/heads/master
  Home:   https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts
  Commit: c5d53f595e99ab5eeffd86e6aa1a5f574f5215a6
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c5d53f595e99ab5eeffd86e6aa1a5f574f5215a6
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-14 (Tue, 14 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Redefine the calculation for packet number size in terms of the range of outstanding numbers, not the count


  Commit: 8817ef0f3e01387437dc5d56b05b7b0dcba6b074
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/8817ef0f3e01387437dc5d56b05b7b0dcba6b074
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M Makefile
    M circle.yml
    M draft-ietf-quic-http.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Merge branch 'master' into redefine_outstanding


  Commit: 6123667c0c3cb42d07a5703b3a24ec241ebd67de
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/6123667c0c3cb42d07a5703b3a24ec241ebd67de
  Author: janaiyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

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  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #299 from quicwg/redefine_outstanding

Redefine outstanding


Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/eaa65579cae6...6123667c0c3c
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<p>Closed <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/286" class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/286" data-id="206730190" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-permission-text="Issue title is private">#286</a> via <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/299" class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/299" data-id="207387858" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-permission-text="Issue title is private">#299</a>.</p>

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  Branch: refs/heads/master
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  Adding an informative reference for randomness requirements.


  Commit: f3b01afe66a32eaef5253a9204b6f009a42ad521
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  Merge pull request #315 from quicwg/quic_trans-random-ref

Adding an informative reference for randomness requirements.


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Martin -- not sure where this PR stands; is it waiting on me? I would at least not remove the Crypto Requirements. I'd like to see that remain in the text (or some form of it.)

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<p>Martin -- not sure where this PR stands; is it waiting on me? I would at least not remove the Crypto Requirements. I'd like to see that remain in the text (or some form of it.)</p>

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Ah, so it's a migration issue:  When seeing a packet from a new source, the server has to first decide whether it's an existing connection that has migrated versus an initial packet from a new client, and this decision has to be made before it can know what version to use in interpreting the packet.

Whether it's a bit or a restricted set of values, that seems like an argument for the model of "These are handshake packets, and everything else is post-handshake."  The problem scenario seems to be that the client picks as a post-handshake-with-grease value something that a server thinks could be a handshake value in a different version.  Is that right?

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<p>Ah, so it's a migration issue:  When seeing a packet from a new source, =
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  Shorten the abstract

The abstract is a direct copy of the intro.  We don't need to repeat ourselves.
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  Integrate Ian's suggested text


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  Merge branch 'master' into transport_priority


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  Merge pull request #303 from quicwg/transport_priority

Add a section on stream prioritization


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This seems reasonable. LGTM, and will merge after you've resolved conflicts.

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<p>This seems reasonable. LGTM, and will merge after you've resolved conflicts.</p>

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We got two options for an ASCII reference:

1. RFC20
2. American National Standards Institute (formerly United States of America Standards Institute), "USA Code for Information Interchange", ANSI X3.4-1968, 1968.

When RFC5137 use the ANSI reference they also included the following note: ANSI X3.4-1968 has been replaced by newer versions with slight modifications, but the 1968 version remains definitive for the Internet.

I lean towards RFC20.

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<p>We got two options for an ASCII reference:</p>
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<li>RFC20</li>
<li>American National Standards Institute (formerly United States of America Standards Institute), "USA Code for Information Interchange", ANSI X3.4-1968, 1968.</li>
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<p>When RFC5137 use the ANSI reference they also included the following note: ANSI X3.4-1968 has been replaced by newer versions with slight modifications, but the 1968 version remains definitive for the Internet.</p>
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Resolves #317.
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<p>Resolves <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/317" class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/317" data-id="208550307" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-permission-text="Issue title is private">#317</a>.</p>

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What? No unicode parameters??

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<p>What? No unicode parameters??</p>

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  Adding a reference for ASCII.


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Adding a reference for ASCII


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Some of the acronyms are spelled out and some aren't.  We should make it matchy-matchy.

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<p>Some of the acronyms are spelled out and some aren't.  We should make it matchy-matchy.</p>

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Resolves #319.
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  * Some minor editorial tweaks for s6.2.1.2.

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    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (6)

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<p>Resolves <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/319" class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/319" data-id="208555486" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-permission-text="Issue title is private">#319</a>.</p>

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  <li>Some minor editorial tweaks for s6.2.1.2.</li>
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  Branch: refs/heads/quic_trans-s6.1-editorial
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The text currently mandates (MUST!) a 4 times safety margin against reordering when picking the packet number size.  This is purely a safety margin feature, so mandating a value isn't justified.

An implementation could, though perhaps it is unwise, use a much smaller packet number than this.  The risk is that there is reordering greater than 2^size and the packets are delivered but cannot be recovered at the receiver.  That's terrible, it will trigger loss recovery and send bad signals.  However, the protocol doesn't actually break.

At a minimum, we should make this a recommendation.  Setting a mandatory floor on the value might be reasonable, but I'd be reluctant to do that unless it was pretty low, or if the value were different for different packet number sizes (smaller margins are probably more justifiable for larger packet number encodings).

Ideally, we should science this and try to measure probabilities of reordering.  Ideally reordering probability as a function of outstanding packets.

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<p>The text currently mandates (MUST!) a 4 times safety margin against reordering when picking the packet number size.  This is purely a safety margin feature, so mandating a value isn't justified.</p>
<p>An implementation could, though perhaps it is unwise, use a much smaller packet number than this.  The risk is that there is reordering greater than 2^size and the packets are delivered but cannot be recovered at the receiver.  That's terrible, it will trigger loss recovery and send bad signals.  However, the protocol doesn't actually break.</p>
<p>At a minimum, we should make this a recommendation.  Setting a mandatory floor on the value might be reasonable, but I'd be reluctant to do that unless it was pretty low, or if the value were different for different packet number sizes (smaller margins are probably more justifiable for larger packet number encodings).</p>
<p>Ideally, we should science this and try to measure probabilities of reordering.  Ideally reordering probability as a function of outstanding packets.</p>

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  Some minor editorial tweaks for s6.2.1.2.


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  Merge pull request #320 from quicwg/quic_trans-s6.2.1.2

Some minor editorial tweaks for s6.2.1.2.


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  Adding a ')' in s5.2.


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Adding a ')' in s5.2.


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<p>ugh, too many damned CAPITAL LETTERS in this doc.</p>

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  Author: Mike Bishop <michbish@microsoft.com>
  Date:   2017-02-09 (Thu, 09 Feb 2017)

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  Fix whitespace


  Commit: 430e1f94cd6d5aa82faa188e993633dd0797b525
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  Author: Mike Bishop <michbish@microsoft.com>
  Date:   2017-02-09 (Thu, 09 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Fix the fix


  Commit: ba4ae1a26c434332866b3adc4f06e3f42987d2ad
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  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-10 (Fri, 10 Feb 2017)

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  Log Message:
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  Stream 1 counts toward MSPC


  Commit: c8972c657252968e17af09ccd1121c14b3290fb8
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  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-10 (Fri, 10 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Random initial packet number


  Commit: 467b6a417318d321666b3257d9448feb978e354c
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  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-10 (Fri, 10 Feb 2017)

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  Rewrite text on packet numbers


  Commit: 49c2f4a7e942daa238624fc5a64d925add22b535
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  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-13 (Mon, 13 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Ian had some comments


  Commit: 0de60f8103d15ea08396491f97bc790e5e3693c0
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  Author: janaiyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-13 (Mon, 13 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Merge pull request #276 from quicwg/internal_padding

PADDING is a single 0 octet


  Commit: 11983677875c23cb1d6f54844acdf6c6a7311b9f
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  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-14 (Tue, 14 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Refine retransmission rules


  Commit: c5d53f595e99ab5eeffd86e6aa1a5f574f5215a6
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  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-14 (Tue, 14 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Redefine the calculation for packet number size in terms of the range of outstanding numbers, not the count


  Commit: ef880125c9e92ac183231887cda9256dbbbb6f57
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  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-14 (Tue, 14 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Update circle.yml to template


  Commit: f83842ee87b72077aa2175c06ab89558464d07c3
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  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-14 (Tue, 14 Feb 2017)

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  Log Message:
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  Integrity protection for the header


  Commit: d9d21223b48c3850fd750f45ae91f0bc7bb42315
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  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-14 (Tue, 14 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Add a section on prioritization


  Commit: 23545b32c375e94e00f3c888e665db0023e28ad6
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  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-14 (Tue, 14 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Give figures numbers, correct PRIORITY caption (#301)


  Commit: 8157c3f99d63d4a82b434b0389ed718aa7354aa1
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  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-15 (Wed, 15 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Police the creation of long lines


  Commit: 7b962e8d7e847ab15583cda18495e0b2d09d1c4c
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  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-15 (Wed, 15 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Add a check for excessive line length in figures


  Commit: 49e0ca0c0a5d2bf72f4524e23f82b249bdfc3228
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  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-15 (Wed, 15 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Updated information in ACK follows rules defined for the frame


  Commit: 647c11cbe1b41182633f1440dcc49ac2bcfc172a
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  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-15 (Wed, 15 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Use the word "acknowledge" in full when used in prose.


  Commit: 4d31689132e859a8d15b7e39a1462c73401f2824
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  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-15 (Wed, 15 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Nits, thanks Mike


  Commit: 31b92d296b28aa45506acdb223c7d9e7dbbc8c32
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  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-15 (Wed, 15 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Making more extensive changes


  Commit: de556919e7bc669f28f2d5e0f6a5c16629fbf5f3
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  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-15 (Wed, 15 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Fix line lengths


  Commit: 6c23d06991834e22ce061ce479f1b8d0a8ae370e
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  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-15 (Wed, 15 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Sean isn't a double-editor


  Commit: 7197aff9853d2664987b2bf26b9aa03efce6b334
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  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-16 (Thu, 16 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Integrate Ian's suggested text


  Commit: 51d962b999179193ec0530dd56c8fe61948d4c2d
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/51d962b999179193ec0530dd56c8fe61948d4c2d
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-16 (Thu, 16 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Using Ian's suggested names


  Commit: 5cf69e80781d829df2cdabe9c31119ce72c0c0aa
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  Author: janaiyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-16 (Thu, 16 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Merge pull request #277 from quicwg/move_frame_lengths

Move length-determining fields to the start of STREAM and ACK


  Commit: d03bd182225dba9c1bf8a5ca49d5117e2e2fddbf
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  Author: janaiyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-16 (Thu, 16 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Merge pull request #282 from quicwg/MSPC_zero

Stream 1 counts toward MSPC


  Commit: 56b5a417e04955c7809b61f95ec865627e7fe4c6
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  Author: janaiyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-16 (Thu, 16 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Merge pull request #283 from quicwg/packet0number

Random initial packet number


  Commit: da282a730da8a2396d2a5a540fbf783377f4acb6
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  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Merge pull request #304 from quicwg/figure_line_length

Add a check for excessive line length in figures


  Commit: 5d8cd38aed89ead66c990519ebe041d73886a3c0
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  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Shorten the abstract

The abstract is a direct copy of the intro.  We don't need to repeat ourselves.
This just keeps the important information.


  Commit: 752537cc977b99a6c1aee069ec6d71e77dd0e6ae
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  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Small digestible chunks


  Commit: 996f3aa9632f39a1394db70a5b2fcd1ffa277891
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  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Take 2


  Commit: 71d0d5b613570339bf5a2cf22ff26edb48e068e0
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  Author: janaiyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-16 (Thu, 16 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Merge pull request #288 from quicwg/cleanup_packet_number

Cleanup packet number text


  Commit: 983c2053430f5374119ff44becb64416075a162e
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  Author: janaiyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-16 (Thu, 16 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Merge pull request #298 from quicwg/frames_arent_retransmitted

Refine retransmission rules


  Commit: 8817ef0f3e01387437dc5d56b05b7b0dcba6b074
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  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Merge branch 'master' into redefine_outstanding


  Commit: d8911972c6bc142eed1bb7f789c46f74d53e0645
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  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Merge branch 'master' into transport_priority


  Commit: 3764464f8afcda0d85501e6b9ed8f844d48ed5ec
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  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Merge branch 'master' into ack_in_full


  Commit: 85bee5baa76f4dd37711cd7048f6dcc79d92cfce
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  Author: seanturner <sean@sn3rd.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Adding an informative reference for MPTCP.


  Commit: e1002e53187065b801266cd83c86f0ce16a30b6b
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  Author: ianswett <ianswett@users.noreply.github.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Add handshake retransmissions (#266)

* Add handshake retransmissions

* Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md

* Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md

* Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md

Add some text on handshake state transitions cancelling handshake frames.

* Fix Ian's trailing whitespace

* Reformat example


  Commit: f00fe5feca61ebad478284d154b1a13e4daf6da1
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  Author: seanturner <sean@sn3rd.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Adding an informative reference for randomness requirements.


  Commit: 702026848298cf1dbf995db4718f4fd8ba825359
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  Author: seanturner <sean@sn3rd.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

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  Fixing spaces; hopefully this will fix the Travis issue as well.


  Commit: 9bf13459b96927cfd199d78b4add0311b11c9856
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  Author: Jana Iyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Changing the phrase crypto cover


  Commit: 6081b18b985c9cd6617720ac0918b30b54a9b88e
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/6081b18b985c9cd6617720ac0918b30b54a9b88e
  Author: Jana Iyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Replace uses of the word crypto with cryptographic


  Commit: 8d96b05969a1b29fdac7929114719d1e577d1364
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  Author: Jana Iyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Revert "Replace uses of the word crypto with cryptographic"

This reverts commit 6081b18b985c9cd6617720ac0918b30b54a9b88e.


  Commit: 85f8cbf8b974c541fc060a62c4b159933608e833
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  Author: Jana Iyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Revert "Changing the phrase crypto cover"

This reverts commit 9bf13459b96927cfd199d78b4add0311b11c9856.


  Commit: bf0e4e97fd7e9451dea2cc974342b376aba32ec3
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  Author: janaiyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Merge pull request #306 from quicwg/ack_in_full

Use the word "acknowledge" in full when used in prose


  Commit: f3b01afe66a32eaef5253a9204b6f009a42ad521
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  Author: janaiyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Merge pull request #315 from quicwg/quic_trans-random-ref

Adding an informative reference for randomness requirements.


  Commit: f604b5451defd91a9dc2ca3bf8766413d9d29b4a
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  Author: janaiyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Merge pull request #312 from quicwg/quic_trans-mptcp-ref

Adding an informative reference for MPTCP.


  Commit: a7a7989a5cc0d6a3f1561817814f1cdebe0e332a
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  Author: janaiyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Merge pull request #302 from quicwg/aad_header

Integrity protection for the header


  Commit: eaa65579cae68b11cc13991f4e7eb4ece3c1dbdf
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  Author: janaiyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Merge pull request #303 from quicwg/transport_priority

Add a section on stream prioritization


  Commit: 6123667c0c3cb42d07a5703b3a24ec241ebd67de
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  Author: janaiyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Merge pull request #299 from quicwg/redefine_outstanding

Redefine outstanding


  Commit: dc4d44835aa65c6b6af34edc3dd29765a6f0dce4
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/dc4d44835aa65c6b6af34edc3dd29765a6f0dce4
  Author: janaiyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #92 from quicwg/short_abstract

Short abstract


  Commit: c2c90d471008b5e74c7dc8cec792bab56d5b8eca
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c2c90d471008b5e74c7dc8cec792bab56d5b8eca
  Author: seanturner <sean@sn3rd.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Adding a reference for ASCII.


  Commit: 08c8f41caae3981786277e89cd0b096ae3d1cfe8
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/08c8f41caae3981786277e89cd0b096ae3d1cfe8
  Author: janaiyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #318 from quicwg/quic_trans-ascii-ref

Adding a reference for ASCII


  Commit: bf49e20db78994776106b9ec8c2376f4e60cea47
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/bf49e20db78994776106b9ec8c2376f4e60cea47
  Author: seanturner <sean@sn3rd.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Some minor editorial tweaks for s6.2.1.2.


  Commit: 044edc1761230df967aae7630f49cfa81891cac2
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/044edc1761230df967aae7630f49cfa81891cac2
  Author: seanturner <sean@sn3rd.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Some minor editorial tweaks for s6.1.


  Commit: e613dbfa4c4c40caf143e1a84fd7b5627a0ae96c
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/e613dbfa4c4c40caf143e1a84fd7b5627a0ae96c
  Author: seanturner <sean@sn3rd.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Adding a ')' in s5.2.


  Commit: d9d119afaf1b8ca21fb16134dff0abf4ffc615cc
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/d9d119afaf1b8ca21fb16134dff0abf4ffc615cc
  Author: janaiyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #320 from quicwg/quic_trans-s6.2.1.2

Some minor editorial tweaks for s6.2.1.2.


  Commit: 567ea55258b3329ad315104c63befd35e132f8bc
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/567ea55258b3329ad315104c63befd35e132f8bc
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-18 (Sat, 18 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #322 from quicwg/quic_trans-s5.2-editorial

Adding a ')' in s5.2.


  Commit: ee98dee0f3043b78de22572638e75b67a4ea60e6
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/ee98dee0f3043b78de22572638e75b67a4ea60e6
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-18 (Sat, 18 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #321 from quicwg/quic_trans-s6.1-editorial

Some minor editorial tweaks for s6.1.


  Commit: b098fb89faaf4891c2e8236a7437fcbeab675f77
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/b098fb89faaf4891c2e8236a7437fcbeab675f77
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-18 (Sat, 18 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M Makefile
    M circle.yml
    M draft-ietf-quic-http.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Merge branch 'master' into no_reservations


Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/4ab99fb767db...b098fb89faaf
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I'd rather take #280 at this point.  It's much nicer.

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<p>I'd rather take <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/280" class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/280" data-id="206696632" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-permission-text="Issue title is private">#280</a> at this point.  It's much nicer.</p>

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Given that this section was going away, all that this change did was rot some other PRs. :(

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<p>Given that this section was going away, all that this change did was rot some other PRs. :(</p>

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@janaiyengar, the crypto requirements are simply moved (and reworded).  And yes, I'm still waiting on you.

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<p><a href="https://github.com/janaiyengar" class="user-mention">@janaiyengar</a>, the crypto requirements are simply moved (and reworded).  And yes, I'm still waiting on you.</p>

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  Branch: refs/heads/transport_parameters_mt
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  Commit: 159063288265d7a581e2170672194f29d672e984
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  Author: martinduke <martin.h.duke@gmail.com>
  Date:   2016-12-21 (Wed, 21 Dec 2016)

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Rewrote the PMTUD section as discussed in Issue #64:
https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/64

Because of concern about user-space implementations controlling kernel PMTU mechanisms, and interest in PLPMTUD as an alternative to tradition ICMP PMTUD, this is a thick web of different options, MUSTs and SHOULDs. In my truest heart I would like to sweep a lot of this away and do a MUST based on around the ICMP system, but though wordy this is more likely to please everyone.


  Commit: 2021025b266b9ab983c22e3b428ea878db45f58c
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  Author: martinduke <martin.h.duke@gmail.com>
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Substantial edits for #106 to reflect comments for both it and #105.


  Commit: 6ef293130e793f8a5ec4459f4fa55a801cf99c66
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  Author: martinduke <martin.h.duke@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-01-11 (Wed, 11 Jan 2017)

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- Clarified that packet number ambiguity only exists in IPv4, as RFC 1885 requires IPv6 packet-too-big messages to be quite a bit longer.
- Addressed all of Ian's comments, except...
- I'm sticking with the MUST set DF for IPv4 handshake packets, because I don't see how the basic test-the-MTU mechanism works without it.


  Commit: 9fbcca385dbf5a43916b4f217ec4d4b62407a458
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  Author: martinduke <martin.h.duke@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-01-12 (Thu, 12 Jan 2017)

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  Revised PMTU section

Addressed Jana's comments.


  Commit: a97fff74b366a0057a80f038ff60361da98920a2
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/a97fff74b366a0057a80f038ff60361da98920a2
  Author: Marten Seemann <martenseemann@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-01-13 (Fri, 13 Jan 2017)

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  window updates should be based on data consumed, not data received


  Commit: 1e839af1a2661edf47a30d583e1e8137987f5f93
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  Author: Marten Seemann <martenseemann@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-01-14 (Sat, 14 Jan 2017)

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  specify error code for flow control violations


  Commit: 3697fe37eb1d9b6892f3c3ddad29d187f76b9d47
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  Author: Marten Seemann <martenseemann@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-01-14 (Sat, 14 Jan 2017)

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  allow sending a WINDOW_UPDATE frame multiple times


  Commit: 7ded7534c44b042c3746f8ce44ac2c667a2153dc
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  Author: Marten Seemann <martenseemann@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-01-14 (Sat, 14 Jan 2017)

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  Log Message:
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  correctly describe connection-level flow control


  Commit: e7b455c745f1c2da93b1b393cad030e818e986e1
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  Author: martinduke <martin.h.duke@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-01-13 (Fri, 13 Jan 2017)

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Addressed Martin T's 01/12 comments.


  Commit: a3695178f3315f4740e4c44a4e16e92faf8b9f57
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  Author: Marten Seemann <martenseemann@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-01-16 (Mon, 16 Jan 2017)

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  add missing comma


  Commit: c5f104920852ecd0a29cf83e61f70f2444ba7770
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  Author: Marten Seemann <martenseemann@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-01-16 (Mon, 16 Jan 2017)

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  improve condition when to ignore WINDOW_UPDATE


  Commit: 446d1bd2e2d1b1bb148b89f06dd449690f41e177
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/446d1bd2e2d1b1bb148b89f06dd449690f41e177
  Author: Marten Seemann <martenseemann@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-01-16 (Mon, 16 Jan 2017)

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  clarify the purpose of sending a WINDOW_UPDATE more than once


  Commit: e7683255809c372d2de7a4355a94036f384943b1
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  Author: martinduke <martin.h.duke@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-01-17 (Tue, 17 Jan 2017)

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Removed the paragraph on handshake padding (now in Issue #164) so that the rest can be merged into the document.


  Commit: 7c41ea00b07e8c10fd29e5047f5f614e48b4597b
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  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-01-24 (Tue, 24 Jan 2017)

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  Use the VERSION flag to identify 0-RTT packets

This aligns the transport draft with the tls draft.

The primary reason for using this identification is that there are three types
of keys that are in concurrent use during a 0-RTT handshake: unprotected
(cleartext), 0-RTT and 1-RTT.  Identifying 0-RTT packets this way allows the
server to avoid trial decryption.


  Commit: 223fd75c121fcf3ffcb8eb7312034d617ac1b37b
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/223fd75c121fcf3ffcb8eb7312034d617ac1b37b
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-01-25 (Wed, 25 Jan 2017)

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  Require both version negotiation AND 1-RTT keys


  Commit: 5bf31689873343f75f8e7f7d854c360dc602a884
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/5bf31689873343f75f8e7f7d854c360dc602a884
  Author: martinduke <martin.h.duke@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-01-26 (Thu, 26 Jan 2017)

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Added all the changes decided on in Tokyo for #64, #69, #139, #164.

I imagine any remaining comments will be editorial.


  Commit: c78460a2a56fea8b7aa0fc26ccb614a0c104acad
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c78460a2a56fea8b7aa0fc26ccb614a0c104acad
  Author: Mike Bishop <michbish@microsoft.com>
  Date:   2017-01-30 (Mon, 30 Jan 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Put Error Code at a consistent offset


  Commit: 3f8576db13cfb3677e8ace7c47af449edd61f746
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/3f8576db13cfb3677e8ace7c47af449edd61f746
  Author: Patrick McManus <mcmanus@ducksong.com>
  Date:   2017-01-31 (Tue, 31 Jan 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  clarify 5.2.2 frame type enumerations

I've always found 5.2.2's use of 1fdoooss and 01nullmm more confusing than helpful when trying to figure out what the frame type enumerations are. They are well defined later on in the STREAM and ACK frame definitions, but in the general frame type section it reads a bit unclear to me. This PR just enumerates the type ranges of each frame type and forgoes the bit level definitions.


  Commit: ec68a1eec5bc15dbf43115fbd122deb0a59610f4
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/ec68a1eec5bc15dbf43115fbd122deb0a59610f4
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-01 (Wed, 01 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M CONTRIBUTING.md
    M README.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-http.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Merge branch 'master' into connection-flowcontrol


  Commit: 5bdf34045cada01b86f50798ecfcdba8c664528b
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/5bdf34045cada01b86f50798ecfcdba8c664528b
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-03 (Fri, 03 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Split streams intro into smaller pieces, add flow control


  Commit: 3e7364007e03bd7e3ca538d176f5a1d21a396497
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/3e7364007e03bd7e3ca538d176f5a1d21a396497
  Author: janaiyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-06 (Mon, 06 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #150 from marten-seemann/connection-flowcontrol

improve description of flow control


  Commit: a426fb34882a7e4ac3982d158d2bb4733488fb0d
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/a426fb34882a7e4ac3982d158d2bb4733488fb0d
  Author: janaiyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-06 (Mon, 06 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #207 from quicwg/0rtt_version_bit

Use the VERSION flag to identify 0-RTT packets


  Commit: 761038d5f4fd47ba5c71287a01c90d8858760e9b
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/761038d5f4fd47ba5c71287a01c90d8858760e9b
  Author: janaiyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-06 (Mon, 06 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M circle.yml
    M draft-ietf-quic-http.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Merge branch 'master' into consistent_offset


  Commit: 617b0121e3a950103a98c2f067f96a8e0c4bc19a
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/617b0121e3a950103a98c2f067f96a8e0c4bc19a
  Author: janaiyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-06 (Mon, 06 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #249 from quicwg/consistent_offset

Error Codes at a consistent offset


  Commit: 4b74314071b34ed43ebe71108ce182c6bb6543eb
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/4b74314071b34ed43ebe71108ce182c6bb6543eb
  Author: janaiyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-06 (Mon, 06 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #251 from mcmanus/patch-3

clarify 5.2.2 frame type enumerations


  Commit: 7732a91e137a36ffbc8c369efb228b9f70cab85c
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/7732a91e137a36ffbc8c369efb228b9f70cab85c
  Author: janaiyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-06 (Mon, 06 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #258 from quicwg/lightweight_stream_intro

Split streams intro into smaller pieces, add flow control


  Commit: c6661243a3834fb0642fed2e71cd5241d01ff8db
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c6661243a3834fb0642fed2e71cd5241d01ff8db
  Author: ianswett <ianswett@users.noreply.github.com>
  Date:   2017-02-07 (Tue, 07 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md

  Log Message:
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  Move references to informational references (#190)

* Move references to informational references

Moves references to informational references, clarifies that SRTT and RTTVar are computed based on an RFC, and adds todos for the congestion control section for anything formerly in the references section.

* Fix informative references (#218)

* This should fix your build errors

* Fix the TLP reference as well


  Commit: cfaeff689a7d3d9a8204939c2cdea61f7e75077d
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/cfaeff689a7d3d9a8204939c2cdea61f7e75077d
  Author: martinduke <martin.h.duke@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-07 (Tue, 07 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Update draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

Addressed Martin Thomson's issues. Changes are not quite verbatim from his suggestions.


  Commit: 9fe0b7d2d8333247c67777412266dd7151e0fc8f
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/9fe0b7d2d8333247c67777412266dd7151e0fc8f
  Author: Mike Bishop <michael.bishop@microsoft.com>
  Date:   2017-02-07 (Tue, 07 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-http.md

  Log Message:
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  Immutable settings with no ACKs (#236)

Removes SETTINGS_ACK and makes settings immutable; prohibits server from sending until it sees SETTINGS.  Defines 0-RTT defaults.  Closes #181.


  Commit: 57935188890c3361785841a6294fdd136efa67c5
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/57935188890c3361785841a6294fdd136efa67c5
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-08 (Wed, 08 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #106 from martinduke/patch-1

PMTUD


  Commit: 073ddba830523c88fc269ac5251007c5e7b53ef5
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/073ddba830523c88fc269ac5251007c5e7b53ef5
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-08 (Wed, 08 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Fix whitespace


  Commit: 2b24854b6bd7a1cb28437c891bf21e8b8e460622
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/2b24854b6bd7a1cb28437c891bf21e8b8e460622
  Author: Mike Bishop <michbish@microsoft.com>
  Date:   2017-02-08 (Wed, 08 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Two error codes from the Chromium RST_STREAM enum


  Commit: 79eb6ccad089c335f72d3c5d58258e66883c216c
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/79eb6ccad089c335f72d3c5d58258e66883c216c
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-09 (Thu, 09 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #270 from quicwg/more_error_codes

Add two error codes from Chromium's RST_STREAM enum


  Commit: b2b779404e0ec8661bce8f864f1c7b993b4860a4
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/b2b779404e0ec8661bce8f864f1c7b993b4860a4
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-09 (Thu, 09 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  PADDING is a single 0 octet


  Commit: 485839413fe4dff72790ae2cfa8e06f52b8d6161
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/485839413fe4dff72790ae2cfa8e06f52b8d6161
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-09 (Thu, 09 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Move length-determining fields to the start of STREAM and ACK


  Commit: b09b36b550910563b53e7d612d6349709c518ae9
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/b09b36b550910563b53e7d612d6349709c518ae9
  Author: Mike Bishop <michbish@microsoft.com>
  Date:   2017-02-09 (Thu, 09 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-http.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Placate Kramdown's table syntax oddities


  Commit: d68a0b1048fcadb285134c3d40aa81a32f2eefd6
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/d68a0b1048fcadb285134c3d40aa81a32f2eefd6
  Author: Mike Bishop <michbish@microsoft.com>
  Date:   2017-02-09 (Thu, 09 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Unshallow Circle's repo


  Commit: 26aa99e081d5e534ac46388a429a0dbbe49ad13f
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/26aa99e081d5e534ac46388a429a0dbbe49ad13f
  Author: Mike Bishop <michbish@microsoft.com>
  Date:   2017-02-09 (Thu, 09 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Don't need --unshallow any more


  Commit: 36fef3f2c1617aa4b428d87ec6d86c8516d01e45
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/36fef3f2c1617aa4b428d87ec6d86c8516d01e45
  Author: Mike Bishop <michbish@microsoft.com>
  Date:   2017-02-09 (Thu, 09 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Selectively unshallow


  Commit: bf02f94f146e9f5d801f9b2efbd0e111eafaf4a7
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/bf02f94f146e9f5d801f9b2efbd0e111eafaf4a7
  Author: Mike Bishop <michbish@microsoft.com>
  Date:   2017-02-09 (Thu, 09 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Cache pip and gem downloads


  Commit: 31eb8ea47b808ad08239cdae76dcc35f9ade859a
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/31eb8ea47b808ad08239cdae76dcc35f9ade859a
  Author: Mike Bishop <michbish@microsoft.com>
  Date:   2017-02-09 (Thu, 09 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M circle.yml

  Log Message:
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  Declare a recent Python version


  Commit: 3b22ee192da9606504cb5fecb1a736ff9347ab71
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/3b22ee192da9606504cb5fecb1a736ff9347ab71
  Author: Mike Bishop <michbish@microsoft.com>
  Date:   2017-02-09 (Thu, 09 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M circle.yml

  Log Message:
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  Fix whitespace


  Commit: 430e1f94cd6d5aa82faa188e993633dd0797b525
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/430e1f94cd6d5aa82faa188e993633dd0797b525
  Author: Mike Bishop <michbish@microsoft.com>
  Date:   2017-02-09 (Thu, 09 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M circle.yml

  Log Message:
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  Fix the fix


  Commit: ba4ae1a26c434332866b3adc4f06e3f42987d2ad
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/ba4ae1a26c434332866b3adc4f06e3f42987d2ad
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-10 (Fri, 10 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Stream 1 counts toward MSPC


  Commit: c8972c657252968e17af09ccd1121c14b3290fb8
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c8972c657252968e17af09ccd1121c14b3290fb8
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-10 (Fri, 10 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Random initial packet number


  Commit: 467b6a417318d321666b3257d9448feb978e354c
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/467b6a417318d321666b3257d9448feb978e354c
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-10 (Fri, 10 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Rewrite text on packet numbers


  Commit: 49c2f4a7e942daa238624fc5a64d925add22b535
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/49c2f4a7e942daa238624fc5a64d925add22b535
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-13 (Mon, 13 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Ian had some comments


  Commit: 0de60f8103d15ea08396491f97bc790e5e3693c0
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/0de60f8103d15ea08396491f97bc790e5e3693c0
  Author: janaiyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-13 (Mon, 13 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #276 from quicwg/internal_padding

PADDING is a single 0 octet


  Commit: 11983677875c23cb1d6f54844acdf6c6a7311b9f
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/11983677875c23cb1d6f54844acdf6c6a7311b9f
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-14 (Tue, 14 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Refine retransmission rules


  Commit: c5d53f595e99ab5eeffd86e6aa1a5f574f5215a6
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c5d53f595e99ab5eeffd86e6aa1a5f574f5215a6
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-14 (Tue, 14 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Redefine the calculation for packet number size in terms of the range of outstanding numbers, not the count


  Commit: ef880125c9e92ac183231887cda9256dbbbb6f57
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/ef880125c9e92ac183231887cda9256dbbbb6f57
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-14 (Tue, 14 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M circle.yml

  Log Message:
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  Update circle.yml to template


  Commit: f83842ee87b72077aa2175c06ab89558464d07c3
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/f83842ee87b72077aa2175c06ab89558464d07c3
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-14 (Tue, 14 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Integrity protection for the header


  Commit: d9d21223b48c3850fd750f45ae91f0bc7bb42315
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/d9d21223b48c3850fd750f45ae91f0bc7bb42315
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-14 (Tue, 14 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Add a section on prioritization


  Commit: 23545b32c375e94e00f3c888e665db0023e28ad6
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/23545b32c375e94e00f3c888e665db0023e28ad6
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-14 (Tue, 14 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-http.md

  Log Message:
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  Give figures numbers, correct PRIORITY caption (#301)


  Commit: 8157c3f99d63d4a82b434b0389ed718aa7354aa1
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/8157c3f99d63d4a82b434b0389ed718aa7354aa1
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-15 (Wed, 15 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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    M draft-ietf-quic-http.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Police the creation of long lines


  Commit: 7b962e8d7e847ab15583cda18495e0b2d09d1c4c
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/7b962e8d7e847ab15583cda18495e0b2d09d1c4c
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-15 (Wed, 15 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M Makefile
    M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Add a check for excessive line length in figures


  Commit: 49e0ca0c0a5d2bf72f4524e23f82b249bdfc3228
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/49e0ca0c0a5d2bf72f4524e23f82b249bdfc3228
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-15 (Wed, 15 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Updated information in ACK follows rules defined for the frame


  Commit: 647c11cbe1b41182633f1440dcc49ac2bcfc172a
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/647c11cbe1b41182633f1440dcc49ac2bcfc172a
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-15 (Wed, 15 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Use the word "acknowledge" in full when used in prose.


  Commit: 4d31689132e859a8d15b7e39a1462c73401f2824
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/4d31689132e859a8d15b7e39a1462c73401f2824
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-15 (Wed, 15 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Nits, thanks Mike


  Commit: 31b92d296b28aa45506acdb223c7d9e7dbbc8c32
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/31b92d296b28aa45506acdb223c7d9e7dbbc8c32
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-15 (Wed, 15 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Making more extensive changes


  Commit: de556919e7bc669f28f2d5e0f6a5c16629fbf5f3
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/de556919e7bc669f28f2d5e0f6a5c16629fbf5f3
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-15 (Wed, 15 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Fix line lengths


  Commit: 6c23d06991834e22ce061ce479f1b8d0a8ae370e
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/6c23d06991834e22ce061ce479f1b8d0a8ae370e
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-15 (Wed, 15 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-http.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Sean isn't a double-editor


  Commit: 7197aff9853d2664987b2bf26b9aa03efce6b334
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/7197aff9853d2664987b2bf26b9aa03efce6b334
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-16 (Thu, 16 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Integrate Ian's suggested text


  Commit: 51d962b999179193ec0530dd56c8fe61948d4c2d
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/51d962b999179193ec0530dd56c8fe61948d4c2d
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-16 (Thu, 16 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md

  Log Message:
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  Using Ian's suggested names


  Commit: 5cf69e80781d829df2cdabe9c31119ce72c0c0aa
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/5cf69e80781d829df2cdabe9c31119ce72c0c0aa
  Author: janaiyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-16 (Thu, 16 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Merge pull request #277 from quicwg/move_frame_lengths

Move length-determining fields to the start of STREAM and ACK


  Commit: d03bd182225dba9c1bf8a5ca49d5117e2e2fddbf
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  Author: janaiyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-16 (Thu, 16 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #282 from quicwg/MSPC_zero

Stream 1 counts toward MSPC


  Commit: 56b5a417e04955c7809b61f95ec865627e7fe4c6
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/56b5a417e04955c7809b61f95ec865627e7fe4c6
  Author: janaiyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-16 (Thu, 16 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Merge pull request #283 from quicwg/packet0number

Random initial packet number


  Commit: da282a730da8a2396d2a5a540fbf783377f4acb6
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/da282a730da8a2396d2a5a540fbf783377f4acb6
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #304 from quicwg/figure_line_length

Add a check for excessive line length in figures


  Commit: 5d8cd38aed89ead66c990519ebe041d73886a3c0
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/5d8cd38aed89ead66c990519ebe041d73886a3c0
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Shorten the abstract

The abstract is a direct copy of the intro.  We don't need to repeat ourselves.
This just keeps the important information.


  Commit: 752537cc977b99a6c1aee069ec6d71e77dd0e6ae
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/752537cc977b99a6c1aee069ec6d71e77dd0e6ae
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Small digestible chunks


  Commit: 996f3aa9632f39a1394db70a5b2fcd1ffa277891
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/996f3aa9632f39a1394db70a5b2fcd1ffa277891
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Take 2


  Commit: 71d0d5b613570339bf5a2cf22ff26edb48e068e0
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/71d0d5b613570339bf5a2cf22ff26edb48e068e0
  Author: janaiyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-16 (Thu, 16 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #288 from quicwg/cleanup_packet_number

Cleanup packet number text


  Commit: 983c2053430f5374119ff44becb64416075a162e
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/983c2053430f5374119ff44becb64416075a162e
  Author: janaiyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-16 (Thu, 16 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #298 from quicwg/frames_arent_retransmitted

Refine retransmission rules


  Commit: 8817ef0f3e01387437dc5d56b05b7b0dcba6b074
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/8817ef0f3e01387437dc5d56b05b7b0dcba6b074
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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    M circle.yml
    M draft-ietf-quic-http.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Merge branch 'master' into redefine_outstanding


  Commit: d8911972c6bc142eed1bb7f789c46f74d53e0645
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/d8911972c6bc142eed1bb7f789c46f74d53e0645
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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    M draft-ietf-quic-http.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Merge branch 'master' into transport_priority


  Commit: 3764464f8afcda0d85501e6b9ed8f844d48ed5ec
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/3764464f8afcda0d85501e6b9ed8f844d48ed5ec
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M Makefile
    M draft-ietf-quic-http.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Merge branch 'master' into ack_in_full


  Commit: 85bee5baa76f4dd37711cd7048f6dcc79d92cfce
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/85bee5baa76f4dd37711cd7048f6dcc79d92cfce
  Author: seanturner <sean@sn3rd.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Adding an informative reference for MPTCP.


  Commit: e1002e53187065b801266cd83c86f0ce16a30b6b
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/e1002e53187065b801266cd83c86f0ce16a30b6b
  Author: ianswett <ianswett@users.noreply.github.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md

  Log Message:
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  Add handshake retransmissions (#266)

* Add handshake retransmissions

* Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md

* Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md

* Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md

Add some text on handshake state transitions cancelling handshake frames.

* Fix Ian's trailing whitespace

* Reformat example


  Commit: f00fe5feca61ebad478284d154b1a13e4daf6da1
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/f00fe5feca61ebad478284d154b1a13e4daf6da1
  Author: seanturner <sean@sn3rd.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Adding an informative reference for randomness requirements.


  Commit: 702026848298cf1dbf995db4718f4fd8ba825359
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/702026848298cf1dbf995db4718f4fd8ba825359
  Author: seanturner <sean@sn3rd.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Fixing spaces; hopefully this will fix the Travis issue as well.


  Commit: 9bf13459b96927cfd199d78b4add0311b11c9856
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/9bf13459b96927cfd199d78b4add0311b11c9856
  Author: Jana Iyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Changing the phrase crypto cover


  Commit: 6081b18b985c9cd6617720ac0918b30b54a9b88e
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/6081b18b985c9cd6617720ac0918b30b54a9b88e
  Author: Jana Iyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Replace uses of the word crypto with cryptographic


  Commit: 8d96b05969a1b29fdac7929114719d1e577d1364
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/8d96b05969a1b29fdac7929114719d1e577d1364
  Author: Jana Iyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Revert "Replace uses of the word crypto with cryptographic"

This reverts commit 6081b18b985c9cd6617720ac0918b30b54a9b88e.


  Commit: 85f8cbf8b974c541fc060a62c4b159933608e833
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/85f8cbf8b974c541fc060a62c4b159933608e833
  Author: Jana Iyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Revert "Changing the phrase crypto cover"

This reverts commit 9bf13459b96927cfd199d78b4add0311b11c9856.


  Commit: bf0e4e97fd7e9451dea2cc974342b376aba32ec3
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/bf0e4e97fd7e9451dea2cc974342b376aba32ec3
  Author: janaiyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #306 from quicwg/ack_in_full

Use the word "acknowledge" in full when used in prose


  Commit: f3b01afe66a32eaef5253a9204b6f009a42ad521
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/f3b01afe66a32eaef5253a9204b6f009a42ad521
  Author: janaiyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #315 from quicwg/quic_trans-random-ref

Adding an informative reference for randomness requirements.


  Commit: f604b5451defd91a9dc2ca3bf8766413d9d29b4a
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/f604b5451defd91a9dc2ca3bf8766413d9d29b4a
  Author: janaiyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #312 from quicwg/quic_trans-mptcp-ref

Adding an informative reference for MPTCP.


  Commit: a7a7989a5cc0d6a3f1561817814f1cdebe0e332a
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/a7a7989a5cc0d6a3f1561817814f1cdebe0e332a
  Author: janaiyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md

  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #302 from quicwg/aad_header

Integrity protection for the header


  Commit: eaa65579cae68b11cc13991f4e7eb4ece3c1dbdf
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/eaa65579cae68b11cc13991f4e7eb4ece3c1dbdf
  Author: janaiyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #303 from quicwg/transport_priority

Add a section on stream prioritization


  Commit: 6123667c0c3cb42d07a5703b3a24ec241ebd67de
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/6123667c0c3cb42d07a5703b3a24ec241ebd67de
  Author: janaiyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #299 from quicwg/redefine_outstanding

Redefine outstanding


  Commit: dc4d44835aa65c6b6af34edc3dd29765a6f0dce4
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/dc4d44835aa65c6b6af34edc3dd29765a6f0dce4
  Author: janaiyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #92 from quicwg/short_abstract

Short abstract


  Commit: c2c90d471008b5e74c7dc8cec792bab56d5b8eca
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c2c90d471008b5e74c7dc8cec792bab56d5b8eca
  Author: seanturner <sean@sn3rd.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Adding a reference for ASCII.


  Commit: 08c8f41caae3981786277e89cd0b096ae3d1cfe8
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/08c8f41caae3981786277e89cd0b096ae3d1cfe8
  Author: janaiyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #318 from quicwg/quic_trans-ascii-ref

Adding a reference for ASCII


  Commit: bf49e20db78994776106b9ec8c2376f4e60cea47
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/bf49e20db78994776106b9ec8c2376f4e60cea47
  Author: seanturner <sean@sn3rd.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Some minor editorial tweaks for s6.2.1.2.


  Commit: 044edc1761230df967aae7630f49cfa81891cac2
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/044edc1761230df967aae7630f49cfa81891cac2
  Author: seanturner <sean@sn3rd.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Some minor editorial tweaks for s6.1.


  Commit: e613dbfa4c4c40caf143e1a84fd7b5627a0ae96c
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/e613dbfa4c4c40caf143e1a84fd7b5627a0ae96c
  Author: seanturner <sean@sn3rd.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Adding a ')' in s5.2.


  Commit: d9d119afaf1b8ca21fb16134dff0abf4ffc615cc
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/d9d119afaf1b8ca21fb16134dff0abf4ffc615cc
  Author: janaiyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #320 from quicwg/quic_trans-s6.2.1.2

Some minor editorial tweaks for s6.2.1.2.


  Commit: 567ea55258b3329ad315104c63befd35e132f8bc
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/567ea55258b3329ad315104c63befd35e132f8bc
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-18 (Sat, 18 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #322 from quicwg/quic_trans-s5.2-editorial

Adding a ')' in s5.2.


  Commit: ee98dee0f3043b78de22572638e75b67a4ea60e6
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/ee98dee0f3043b78de22572638e75b67a4ea60e6
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-18 (Sat, 18 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #321 from quicwg/quic_trans-s6.1-editorial

Some minor editorial tweaks for s6.1.


  Commit: 69758bf14e9d2073eb6cda2f07bf2b4b270d2d66
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/69758bf14e9d2073eb6cda2f07bf2b4b270d2d66
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-18 (Sat, 18 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M Makefile
    M circle.yml
    M draft-ietf-quic-http.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Merge branch 'master' into transport_parameters_mt


Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/c3d7e70e4c61...69758bf14e9d
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  Branch: refs/heads/master
  Home:   https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts
  Commit: 044edc1761230df967aae7630f49cfa81891cac2
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/044edc1761230df967aae7630f49cfa81891cac2
  Author: seanturner <sean@sn3rd.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Some minor editorial tweaks for s6.1.


  Commit: ee98dee0f3043b78de22572638e75b67a4ea60e6
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  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-18 (Sat, 18 Feb 2017)

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  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #321 from quicwg/quic_trans-s6.1-editorial

Some minor editorial tweaks for s6.1.


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This makes sense to me. Of course, it's worth pointing out that we need to consider loss in addition to reordering. For example, let's say that a sender *always* sent 1 byte packet numbers. If it happened that 256 consecutive packets were lost (I realize this is not typical, but long fat pipe :>) then the 1 byte number for the 257th packet would be interpreted by the receiver as the same as the first lost packet and decryption would fail. Thus, If the sender never increased the size the connection would fail. (You are probably already aware of this, and I'm probably being utterly redundant. If so, I'm sorry!)

So I think we need a MUST of some sort in this area, though I'm not exactly sure what it should say. I am sure it can be much looser than the 4x safety margin, though.

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<p>This makes sense to me. Of course, it's worth pointing out that we nee=
d to consider loss in addition to reordering. For example, let's say that=
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  Branch: refs/heads/quic_trans-s7-ref
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I think the reference in s7 should be to Section 5.4 (frames and frame types) and not Section 8 (packetization)?
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<p>I think the reference in s7 should be to Section 5.4 (frames and frame types) and not Section 8 (packetization)?</p>

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janaiyengar approved this pull request.

I think both work, but this may be a better reference



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<p><b>@janaiyengar</b> approved this pull request.</p>

<p>I think both work, but this may be a better reference</p>

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  Branch: refs/heads/master
  Home:   https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts
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  Changing reference.


  Commit: 7c869ee495670dc67b285163579176be35b71a10
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  Merge pull request #324 from quicwg/quic_trans-s7-ref

Changing reference


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janaiyengar commented on this pull request.

LGTM modulo one revert

> @@ -666,10 +666,10 @@ set and MUST include the new negotiated protocol version.
 The client MUST set the VERSION flag and include its selected version on all
 packets until it has 1-RTT keys and it has received a packet from the server
 that does not have the VERSION flag set.  With TLS, this means that unprotected
-packets and 0-RTT protected packets all include a version field.
+packets and 0-RTT protected packets all include a VERSION flag.

The earlier form was actually more accurate. There's a VERSION flag that indicates (i) the presence of a version field in packets from client to server, and (ii) the packet is a version negotiation packet when the packet is server -> client.

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<p><b>@janaiyengar</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

<p>LGTM modulo one revert</p><hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/321#discussion_r101859257">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -666,10 +666,10 @@ set and MUST include the new negotiated protocol version.
 The client MUST set the VERSION flag and include its selected version on all
 packets until it has 1-RTT keys and it has received a packet from the server
 that does not have the VERSION flag set.  With TLS, this means that unprotected
-packets and 0-RTT protected packets all include a version field.
+packets and 0-RTT protected packets all include a VERSION flag.
</pre>
<p>The earlier form was actually more accurate. There's a VERSION flag that indicates (i) the presence of a version field in packets from client to server, and (ii) the packet is a version negotiation packet when the packet is server -&gt; client.</p>

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janaiyengar commented on this pull request.

A few comments. The most important one being the shift in where source address spoofing prevention (STK) lies.

>  ## Crypto and Transport Handshake {#handshake}
 
 QUIC relies on a combined crypto and transport handshake to minimize connection
-establishment latency.  QUIC provides a dedicated stream (Stream ID 1) to be
-used for performing a combined connection and security handshake (streams are
-described in detail in {{streams}}).  The crypto handshake protocol encapsulates
-and delivers QUIC's transport handshake to the peer on the crypto stream.  The
-first QUIC packet sent by client to the server MUST carry handshake information
-as data on Stream ID 1.
+establishment latency.  QUIC allocates stream 1 for the cryptographic handshake.
+This version of QUIC uses TLS.
+
+QUIC provides this stream with reliable, ordered delivery of data.  In return,
+TLS provides QUIC with:

Can you change this to "the cryptographic handshake provides QUIC with"?

> +     packets, and
+
+   * 1-RTT keys have forward secrecy
+
+* authenticated values for the transport parameters of the peer (see
+  {{transport-parameters}})
+
+* authenticated confirmation of version negotiation (see {{version-validation}})
+
+* authenticated negotiation of an application protocol (TLS uses ALPN
+  {{?RFC7301}} for this purpose)
+
+* for the server, the ability to carry data that provides assurance that the
+  client can receive packets that are addressed with the transport address that
+  is claimed by the client (see {{source-address-token}})
+

This changes what the draft is saying in a fundamental way. The draft currently says that address proofing is handled by QUIC and need not be done by TLS. This modification says exactly the opposite.

It's also missing any mention of cert compression, which causes measurable perforamance difference. Granted that is detail that doesn't belong in this document, so I'm fine with not mentioning that.

> +         case client_hello:
+            QuicVersion negotiated_version;
+            QuicVersion initial_version;
+
+         case encrypted_extensions:
+            QuicVersion supported_versions<2..2^8-4>;
+      };
+      TransportParameter parameters<30..2^16-1>;
+   } TransportParameters;
+~~~
+{: #figure-transport-parameters title="Definition of TransportParameters"}
+
+The `extension_data` field of the quic_transport_parameters extension defined in
+{{QUIC-TLS}} contains a TransportParameters value.  TLS encoding rules are
+therefore used to encode the transport parameters.
+

What are "TLS encoding rules"?

>  
-### Proof of Source Address Ownership
+The client includes two fields in the transport parameters:
+
+* The negotiated_version is the version that was finally selected for use.  This
+  MUST be identical to the value that is on the packet that carries the
+  ClientHello.  A server that receives a negotiated_version that does not match
+  the version of QUIC that is in use MUST terminate the connection with a TBD
+  error code.

"terminate the connection with a QUIC_VERSION_NEGOTIATION_MISMATCH error code."

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<p><b>@janaiyengar</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

<p>A few comments. The most important one being the shift in where source address spoofing prevention (STK) lies.</p><hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/122#discussion_r101879881">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt;  ## Crypto and Transport Handshake {#handshake}
 
 QUIC relies on a combined crypto and transport handshake to minimize connection
-establishment latency.  QUIC provides a dedicated stream (Stream ID 1) to be
-used for performing a combined connection and security handshake (streams are
-described in detail in {{streams}}).  The crypto handshake protocol encapsulates
-and delivers QUIC&#39;s transport handshake to the peer on the crypto stream.  The
-first QUIC packet sent by client to the server MUST carry handshake information
-as data on Stream ID 1.
+establishment latency.  QUIC allocates stream 1 for the cryptographic handshake.
+This version of QUIC uses TLS.
+
+QUIC provides this stream with reliable, ordered delivery of data.  In return,
+TLS provides QUIC with:
</pre>
<p>Can you change this to "the cryptographic handshake provides QUIC with"?</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/122#discussion_r101880049">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +     packets, and
+
+   * 1-RTT keys have forward secrecy
+
+* authenticated values for the transport parameters of the peer (see
+  {{transport-parameters}})
+
+* authenticated confirmation of version negotiation (see {{version-validation}})
+
+* authenticated negotiation of an application protocol (TLS uses ALPN
+  {{?RFC7301}} for this purpose)
+
+* for the server, the ability to carry data that provides assurance that the
+  client can receive packets that are addressed with the transport address that
+  is claimed by the client (see {{source-address-token}})
+
</pre>
<p>This changes what the draft is saying in a fundamental way. The draft currently says that address proofing is handled by QUIC and need not be done by TLS. This modification says exactly the opposite.</p>
<p>It's also missing any mention of cert compression, which causes measurable perforamance difference. Granted that is detail that doesn't belong in this document, so I'm fine with not mentioning that.</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/122#discussion_r101880251">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +         case client_hello:
+            QuicVersion negotiated_version;
+            QuicVersion initial_version;
+
+         case encrypted_extensions:
+            QuicVersion supported_versions&lt;2..2^8-4&gt;;
+      };
+      TransportParameter parameters&lt;30..2^16-1&gt;;
+   } TransportParameters;
+~~~
+{: #figure-transport-parameters title=&quot;Definition of TransportParameters&quot;}
+
+The `extension_data` field of the quic_transport_parameters extension defined in
+{{QUIC-TLS}} contains a TransportParameters value.  TLS encoding rules are
+therefore used to encode the transport parameters.
+
</pre>
<p>What are "TLS encoding rules"?</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/122#discussion_r101880509">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt;  
-### Proof of Source Address Ownership
+The client includes two fields in the transport parameters:
+
+* The negotiated_version is the version that was finally selected for use.  This
+  MUST be identical to the value that is on the packet that carries the
+  ClientHello.  A server that receives a negotiated_version that does not match
+  the version of QUIC that is in use MUST terminate the connection with a TBD
+  error code.
</pre>
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The loss scenario is the more interesting one to consider than the simple reordering one, and you don't have to lose all 256 for this to be a problem. You just need a send-range + receive-range that exceeds the sequence space, and that can happen (i) when the first packet in your scenario is lost, and (ii) the retransmission ends up with the same short-form sequence number. I agree that there is a risk of being stuck. 

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There's conflicting information in Section 6.1:

First it says

> If the packet contains a version that is acceptable to the server, the server proceeds with the handshake (Section 6.2). All subsequent packets sent by the server MUST have the VERSION flag unset.

Two paragraphs later it says

> The client MUST set the VERSION flag and include its selected version on all packets until it has 1-RTT keys and it has received a packet from the server that does not have the VERSION flag set.

This is conflicting, because the client may receive a packet from the server (which is not a Version Negotiation Packet, meaning that the server accepted the proposed version) before having the 1-RTT keys.

Furthermore, the last part of the last sentence makes little sense anyway. It's impossible for the client to have 1-RTT keys unless the server already accepted the version.

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<p>There's conflicting information in Section 6.1:</p>
<p>First it says</p>
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<p>If the packet contains a version that is acceptable to the server, the server proceeds with the handshake (Section 6.2). All subsequent packets sent by the server MUST have the VERSION flag unset.</p>
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<p>Two paragraphs later it says</p>
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<p>The client MUST set the VERSION flag and include its selected version on all packets until it has 1-RTT keys and it has received a packet from the server that does not have the VERSION flag set.</p>
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<p>This is conflicting, because the client may receive a packet from the server (which is not a Version Negotiation Packet, meaning that the server accepted the proposed version) before having the 1-RTT keys.</p>
<p>Furthermore, the last part of the last sentence makes little sense anyway. It's impossible for the client to have 1-RTT keys unless the server already accepted the version.</p>

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  Branch: refs/heads/transport_parameters_mt
  Home:   https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts
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  Changed paths:
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@martinthomson pushed 1 commit.

110effc  Fix long line


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<p><a href="https://github.com/martinthomson" class="user-mention">@martinthomson</a> pushed 1 commit.</p>

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Jana and I had a few conversations about this in Seoul.  

One important point is that in QUIC, if the packet number is decoded incorrectly, decryption fails and the packet is dropped.  In TCP, the stream is corrupted and you're in a much worse place.  

Ryan's point is completely correct, but the sender always has the option of increasing the packet number length, so if they implement the spec correctly, the connection should never fail.

So I think we want text like:
"The sender MUST use a packet number size able to represent more than twice as large a range than the difference between the largest acknowledged packet and packet number being sent.  The sender SHOULD use a packet number large enough to fit all packets it expects to have in flight simultaneously with the current packet into half the range in order to tolerate arbitrary reordering or loss of any packet in flight."

Jana's point about retransmissions and not being able to increase the packet number length (without splitting frames) is completely valid, but that's an implementation problem, as we've already decided implementations could split stream frames.

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<p>Jana and I had a few conversations about this in Seoul.</p>
<p>One important point is that in QUIC, if the packet number is decoded i=
ncorrectly, decryption fails and the packet is dropped.  In TCP, the stre=
am is corrupted and you're in a much worse place.</p>
<p>Ryan's point is completely correct, but the sender always has the opti=
on of increasing the packet number length, so if they implement the spec =
correctly, the connection should never fail.</p>
<p>So I think we want text like:<br>
"The sender MUST use a packet number size able to represent more than twi=
ce as large a range than the difference between the largest acknowledged =
packet and packet number being sent.  The sender SHOULD use a packet numb=
er large enough to fit all packets it expects to have in flight simultane=
ously with the current packet into half the range in order to tolerate ar=
bitrary reordering or loss of any packet in flight."</p>
<p>Jana's point about retransmissions and not being able to increase the =
packet number length (without splitting frames) is completely valid, but =
that's an implementation problem, as we've already decided implementation=
s could split stream frames.</p>

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<p>Your proposed language sounds good to me!</p>

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>      else if (tlp_count < kMaxTLPs):
       // Tail Loss Probe alarm.
       if (retransmittable_packets_outstanding = 1):
-        alarm_duration = max(1.5 x smoothed_rtt + kDelayedAckTimeout,
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+        alarm_duration = max(1.5 * smoothed_rtt + kDelayedAckTimeout,

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<p><b>@martinthomson</b> approved this pull request.</p>

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/313#discussion_r101934166">draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt;      else if (tlp_count &lt; kMaxTLPs):
       // Tail Loss Probe alarm.
       if (retransmittable_packets_outstanding = 1):
-        alarm_duration = max(1.5 x smoothed_rtt + kDelayedAckTimeout,
-                             2 x smoothed_rtt);
+        alarm_duration = max(1.5 * smoothed_rtt + kDelayedAckTimeout,
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Missed one, also the wrapping looks a little narrower than 80.  It's fine for now, but I'll probably re-wrap those paragraphs if I have to change them.

>  
-QUIC relies on a combined crypto and transport handshake to minimize connection
-establishment latency.  QUIC provides a dedicated stream (Stream ID 1) to be
-used for performing a combined connection and security handshake (streams are
-described in detail in {{streams}}).  The crypto handshake protocol encapsulates
-and delivers QUIC's transport handshake to the peer on the crypto stream.  The
-first QUIC packet sent by client to the server MUST carry handshake information
-as data on Stream ID 1.
+QUIC relies on a combined cryptographic and transport handshake to
+minimize connection establishment latency.  QUIC provides a dedicated
+stream (Stream ID 1) to be used for performing a combined connection
+and security handshake (streams are described in detail in
+{{streams}}).  The crypto handshake protocol encapsulates and delivers

"crypto"

> @@ -1688,8 +1695,9 @@ A StreamID of zero (0x0) is reserved and used for connection-level flow control
 frames ({{flow-control}}); the StreamID of zero cannot be used to establish a
 new stream.
 
-StreamID 1 (0x1) is reserved for the crypto handshake.  StreamID 1 MUST NOT be
-used for application data, and MUST be the first client-initiated stream.
+StreamID 1 (0x1) is reserved for the cryptographic handshake.

Do you have `fill-column` set to 80, or is it smaller?  If I remember rightly, emacs defaults to 76 or something like that.  `M-x customize-variable fill-column`

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<p>Missed one, also the wrapping looks a little narrower than 80.  It's fine for now, but I'll probably re-wrap those paragraphs if I have to change them.</p><hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/316#discussion_r101934212">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt;  
-QUIC relies on a combined crypto and transport handshake to minimize connection
-establishment latency.  QUIC provides a dedicated stream (Stream ID 1) to be
-used for performing a combined connection and security handshake (streams are
-described in detail in {{streams}}).  The crypto handshake protocol encapsulates
-and delivers QUIC&#39;s transport handshake to the peer on the crypto stream.  The
-first QUIC packet sent by client to the server MUST carry handshake information
-as data on Stream ID 1.
+QUIC relies on a combined cryptographic and transport handshake to
+minimize connection establishment latency.  QUIC provides a dedicated
+stream (Stream ID 1) to be used for performing a combined connection
+and security handshake (streams are described in detail in
+{{streams}}).  The crypto handshake protocol encapsulates and delivers
</pre>
<p>"crypto"</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/316#discussion_r101934253">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -1688,8 +1695,9 @@ A StreamID of zero (0x0) is reserved and used for connection-level flow control
 frames ({{flow-control}}); the StreamID of zero cannot be used to establish a
 new stream.
 
-StreamID 1 (0x1) is reserved for the crypto handshake.  StreamID 1 MUST NOT be
-used for application data, and MUST be the first client-initiated stream.
+StreamID 1 (0x1) is reserved for the cryptographic handshake.
</pre>
<p>Do you have <code>fill-column</code> set to 80, or is it smaller?  If I remember rightly, emacs defaults to 76 or something like that.  <code>M-x customize-variable fill-column</code></p>

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Yep, that's right Mike, that is what I had in mind when I said:

> That requires that only long form packets either be distinct from short form or that only long form packets arrive prior to establishing state. The latter of these doesn't work in light of NAT rebinding, since short form packets will arrive with no context.

I appreciate that GQUIC has a problem here.  The checksum could be sufficient though.

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<p>Yep, that's right Mike, that is what I had in mind when I said:</p>
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t form or that only long form packets arrive prior to establishing state.=
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<p>I appreciate that GQUIC has a problem here.  The checksum could be suf=
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The draft declares:
> The default idle timeout for a QUIC connection is 30 seconds

But there are no situations in which a default is actually needed, since the parameter is mandatory to signal.

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<p>The draft declares:</p>
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<p>The default idle timeout for a QUIC connection is 30 seconds</p>
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<p>But there are no situations in which a default is actually needed, since the parameter is mandatory to signal.</p>

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martinthomson commented on this pull request.

Thanks for reviewing @janaiyengar, I have made the changes you suggest.  Please check out #275 when it comes to address validation.  It builds on top of this PR, I'll rebase it shortly.

> +         case client_hello:
+            QuicVersion negotiated_version;
+            QuicVersion initial_version;
+
+         case encrypted_extensions:
+            QuicVersion supported_versions<2..2^8-4>;
+      };
+      TransportParameter parameters<30..2^16-1>;
+   } TransportParameters;
+~~~
+{: #figure-transport-parameters title="Definition of TransportParameters"}
+
+The `extension_data` field of the quic_transport_parameters extension defined in
+{{QUIC-TLS}} contains a TransportParameters value.  TLS encoding rules are
+therefore used to encode the transport parameters.
+

TER?  It's an X.690-series ITU recommendation?  Not really.

If you follow the reference to [Section 3 of TLS 1.3](https://tlswg.github.io/tls13-spec/#rfc.section.3), you can see those rules laid out for you.

> +     packets, and
+
+   * 1-RTT keys have forward secrecy
+
+* authenticated values for the transport parameters of the peer (see
+  {{transport-parameters}})
+
+* authenticated confirmation of version negotiation (see {{version-validation}})
+
+* authenticated negotiation of an application protocol (TLS uses ALPN
+  {{?RFC7301}} for this purpose)
+
+* for the server, the ability to carry data that provides assurance that the
+  client can receive packets that are addressed with the transport address that
+  is claimed by the client (see {{source-address-token}})
+

This is the first part of the handling we agreed to.  The cryptographic protocol carries the data (though the cryptographic protocol itself is carried by QUIC).  It does this .... well, I won't reiterate why when I have a PR that goes through and implements the full client address validation we agreed to in #275.  I encourage you to read that and not get too excited about this particular PR coming up short.

>  ## Crypto and Transport Handshake {#handshake}
 
 QUIC relies on a combined crypto and transport handshake to minimize connection
-establishment latency.  QUIC provides a dedicated stream (Stream ID 1) to be
-used for performing a combined connection and security handshake (streams are
-described in detail in {{streams}}).  The crypto handshake protocol encapsulates
-and delivers QUIC's transport handshake to the peer on the crypto stream.  The
-first QUIC packet sent by client to the server MUST carry handshake information
-as data on Stream ID 1.
+establishment latency.  QUIC allocates stream 1 for the cryptographic handshake.
+This version of QUIC uses TLS.
+
+QUIC provides this stream with reliable, ordered delivery of data.  In return,
+TLS provides QUIC with:

Done.

>  
-### Proof of Source Address Ownership
+The client includes two fields in the transport parameters:
+
+* The negotiated_version is the version that was finally selected for use.  This
+  MUST be identical to the value that is on the packet that carries the
+  ClientHello.  A server that receives a negotiated_version that does not match
+  the version of QUIC that is in use MUST terminate the connection with a TBD
+  error code.

Thanks.

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<p><b>@martinthomson</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

<p>Thanks for reviewing <a href="https://github.com/janaiyengar" class="user-mention">@janaiyengar</a>, I have made the changes you suggest.  Please check out <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/275" class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/275" data-id="206363760" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-permission-text="Issue title is private">#275</a> when it comes to address validation.  It builds on top of this PR, I'll rebase it shortly.</p><hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/122#discussion_r101942991">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +         case client_hello:
+            QuicVersion negotiated_version;
+            QuicVersion initial_version;
+
+         case encrypted_extensions:
+            QuicVersion supported_versions&lt;2..2^8-4&gt;;
+      };
+      TransportParameter parameters&lt;30..2^16-1&gt;;
+   } TransportParameters;
+~~~
+{: #figure-transport-parameters title=&quot;Definition of TransportParameters&quot;}
+
+The `extension_data` field of the quic_transport_parameters extension defined in
+{{QUIC-TLS}} contains a TransportParameters value.  TLS encoding rules are
+therefore used to encode the transport parameters.
+
</pre>
<p>TER?  It's an X.690-series ITU recommendation?  Not really.</p>
<p>If you follow the reference to <a href="https://tlswg.github.io/tls13-spec/#rfc.section.3">Section 3 of TLS 1.3</a>, you can see those rules laid out for you.</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/122#discussion_r101943127">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +     packets, and
+
+   * 1-RTT keys have forward secrecy
+
+* authenticated values for the transport parameters of the peer (see
+  {{transport-parameters}})
+
+* authenticated confirmation of version negotiation (see {{version-validation}})
+
+* authenticated negotiation of an application protocol (TLS uses ALPN
+  {{?RFC7301}} for this purpose)
+
+* for the server, the ability to carry data that provides assurance that the
+  client can receive packets that are addressed with the transport address that
+  is claimed by the client (see {{source-address-token}})
+
</pre>
<p>This is the first part of the handling we agreed to.  The cryptographic protocol carries the data (though the cryptographic protocol itself is carried by QUIC).  It does this .... well, I won't reiterate why when I have a PR that goes through and implements the full client address validation we agreed to in <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/275" class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/275" data-id="206363760" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-permission-text="Issue title is private">#275</a>.  I encourage you to read that and not get too excited about this particular PR coming up short.</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/122#discussion_r101943135">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt;  ## Crypto and Transport Handshake {#handshake}
 
 QUIC relies on a combined crypto and transport handshake to minimize connection
-establishment latency.  QUIC provides a dedicated stream (Stream ID 1) to be
-used for performing a combined connection and security handshake (streams are
-described in detail in {{streams}}).  The crypto handshake protocol encapsulates
-and delivers QUIC&#39;s transport handshake to the peer on the crypto stream.  The
-first QUIC packet sent by client to the server MUST carry handshake information
-as data on Stream ID 1.
+establishment latency.  QUIC allocates stream 1 for the cryptographic handshake.
+This version of QUIC uses TLS.
+
+QUIC provides this stream with reliable, ordered delivery of data.  In return,
+TLS provides QUIC with:
</pre>
<p>Done.</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/122#discussion_r101943841">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt;  
-### Proof of Source Address Ownership
+The client includes two fields in the transport parameters:
+
+* The negotiated_version is the version that was finally selected for use.  This
+  MUST be identical to the value that is on the packet that carries the
+  ClientHello.  A server that receives a negotiated_version that does not match
+  the version of QUIC that is in use MUST terminate the connection with a TBD
+  error code.
</pre>
<p>Thanks.</p>

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  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  editorial


  Commit: 5f5c86ed4f0bb50e2f50736acb97f41cf1165f47
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/5f5c86ed4f0bb50e2f50736acb97f41cf1165f47
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Correct reference


  Commit: bea007be10f7489db135c4eaa01e5130b8a12573
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/bea007be10f7489db135c4eaa01e5130b8a12573
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Move crypto requirements to head of section


  Commit: dfc3ac3e6fe799373b46a44adaa17c93ab23b395
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/dfc3ac3e6fe799373b46a44adaa17c93ab23b395
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md

  Log Message:
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  Wrap note


  Commit: 3c8f1448981d3d4b36e5f4bd07c6e5d609afbf5d
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/3c8f1448981d3d4b36e5f4bd07c6e5d609afbf5d
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Remove QUIC-Crypto reference


  Commit: e28e0458e24c6f279a2c85d9a410dd05060275c6
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/e28e0458e24c6f279a2c85d9a410dd05060275c6
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Transport parameter are available when the handshake completes


  Commit: 9a6835026c04119b02b32346be61eb7aec533513
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/9a6835026c04119b02b32346be61eb7aec533513
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Simplify the section on new parameters


  Commit: 18daadb7d9874adac1f09e580e39a6ed7762ff3f
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/18daadb7d9874adac1f09e580e39a6ed7762ff3f
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Add IANA considerations


  Commit: 5a065ea137b6d05e8ff155a8460b8c8267d7fe49
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/5a065ea137b6d05e8ff155a8460b8c8267d7fe49
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md

  Log Message:
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  Add transport parameters to the handshake interface in TLS


  Commit: 153f2c1dc534f888e47fc73b2d3ff8180092a955
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/153f2c1dc534f888e47fc73b2d3ff8180092a955
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Fix formatting


  Commit: 29d238fbb648822c9fc761f6d231d45eb10388fa
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/29d238fbb648822c9fc761f6d231d45eb10388fa
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Proofread version negotiation and correct errors


  Commit: 747ba9c2bb09edc95203a5a4dc382aa48f5c8d09
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/747ba9c2bb09edc95203a5a4dc382aa48f5c8d09
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Use hex, add initial registry contents


  Commit: 8847936f29ebeb87a00bc59afc75d97b30f6620c
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/8847936f29ebeb87a00bc59afc75d97b30f6620c
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Transport parameters during 0-RTT are either remembered or defaults

This changes the definition for transport parameters from "MUST remember"
as I originally wrote up, to the frankly insane consensus position from
the Tokyo interim.

Closes #126


  Commit: 373f614e63b5556c38ee5316833f3bead51cbcec
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/373f614e63b5556c38ee5316833f3bead51cbcec
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Fix long line


  Commit: 4f8dec839be7a480a857b8c3af34b8fe294e2996
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/4f8dec839be7a480a857b8c3af34b8fe294e2996
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Rename transport parameters, closes #300


  Commit: 6ad8dee5caf52dfb682471316039fe1cb769f9c1
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/6ad8dee5caf52dfb682471316039fe1cb769f9c1
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Cryptographic handshake, blah, blah


  Commit: e6c17bc38059bec8916908ed8bbdf2a26e8cb628
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/e6c17bc38059bec8916908ed8bbdf2a26e8cb628
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Jana's review comments


Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/110effc81815...e6c17bc38059
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  Branch: refs/heads/stk_part2
  Home:   https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts
  Commit: ee72971ae00ec0fa905bc828a58c77631922b3cb
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/ee72971ae00ec0fa905bc828a58c77631922b3cb
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

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  Expanding and refining source/client address validation


  Commit: 7520af3b18070ec5a5e86123d6aac20663c04fab
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/7520af3b18070ec5a5e86123d6aac20663c04fab
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

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  Log Message:
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  Note that the server sends address validation tokens to itself.  Closes #118.


  Commit: 48df0e138d3a0727d4288d7a60de34eaf3bf6eaa
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/48df0e138d3a0727d4288d7a60de34eaf3bf6eaa
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

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  Log Message:
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  Small refinements


  Commit: f7b15c5ecf70b919c1e0d8ccd11acefe5be6395f
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/f7b15c5ecf70b919c1e0d8ccd11acefe5be6395f
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

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  Capitals are great, but not that Good.


  Commit: 4db20b49748c8d5aa603dc8c71c192b424b46997
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/4db20b49748c8d5aa603dc8c71c192b424b46997
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

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  Log Message:
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  Add text on interaction between hard-to-guess and integrity checks


Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/d06d901b0e7b...4db20b49748c
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  Branch: refs/heads/stk_part2
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  Commit: 05e848389bfc5e54981733b77ce91d1b17063fd8
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/05e848389bfc5e54981733b77ce91d1b17063fd8
  Author: Jana Iyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

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  Removes use of the word crypto


  Commit: 4890980976fc467ce880785e740a96e3058ec501
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/4890980976fc467ce880785e740a96e3058ec501
  Author: Jana Iyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

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  Revert "Replace uses of the word crypto with cryptographic"

This reverts commit 6081b18b985c9cd6617720ac0918b30b54a9b88e.


  Commit: c68d4c3f87b50ebaa73b57d250d9613add47ad4d
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c68d4c3f87b50ebaa73b57d250d9613add47ad4d
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Add definition of transport parameters to -transport


  Commit: df6be7dcdda7e4f3dcf7e23f517df1c0c28f479d
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/df6be7dcdda7e4f3dcf7e23f517df1c0c28f479d
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Define the extension in -tls


  Commit: 54b4a61e0d1922edbc730f841a9f2ba346b8eaa7
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/54b4a61e0d1922edbc730f841a9f2ba346b8eaa7
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Add a stub iana section, fix dead references


  Commit: 58b44bf9b5e15c529161c4d8c1888b4e7b6fd677
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/58b44bf9b5e15c529161c4d8c1888b4e7b6fd677
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

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  Remove COPT, add rule about unknown extensions


  Commit: 69682c831f4bd2a0be0d05fd4d055a358c89b2f3
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/69682c831f4bd2a0be0d05fd4d055a358c89b2f3
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Reference WINDOW_UPDATE properly


  Commit: c6f4388dc58e2a76a6470b0413c7847254076972
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c6f4388dc58e2a76a6470b0413c7847254076972
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Remove extra sentence on ignoring unknown parameters


  Commit: 4e553f5b886194f38e891ed417e23010505170d5
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/4e553f5b886194f38e891ed417e23010505170d5
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  editorial


  Commit: c003df817b99fe07e586dc6cac34a389e26bc978
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c003df817b99fe07e586dc6cac34a389e26bc978
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Correct reference


  Commit: ff697d3b351b7d29ffcd80cc1b65612474e87df3
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/ff697d3b351b7d29ffcd80cc1b65612474e87df3
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Move crypto requirements to head of section


  Commit: 0a927e4af2bfb104e196f8b3d80ea53158997c50
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/0a927e4af2bfb104e196f8b3d80ea53158997c50
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md

  Log Message:
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  Wrap note


  Commit: b251df5185cdd6bebcd98c623c8af7cc562abf7d
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/b251df5185cdd6bebcd98c623c8af7cc562abf7d
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Remove QUIC-Crypto reference


  Commit: 64e9772ff2e1caf5ba501ff22ec56b842276c4ce
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/64e9772ff2e1caf5ba501ff22ec56b842276c4ce
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Transport parameter are available when the handshake completes


  Commit: 081ef5e884f5f8afac230b0a6595a62cea1ff90f
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/081ef5e884f5f8afac230b0a6595a62cea1ff90f
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Simplify the section on new parameters


  Commit: e5d5bf4bbc14b7e8113c8bebe52bb70ef06c57ec
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/e5d5bf4bbc14b7e8113c8bebe52bb70ef06c57ec
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Add IANA considerations


  Commit: 665a59a1f7bb820ff747181ce0473e6a20c9e61d
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/665a59a1f7bb820ff747181ce0473e6a20c9e61d
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Add transport parameters to the handshake interface in TLS


  Commit: 895a68e5a070fc3ab0812c6d600c2dfab3671805
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/895a68e5a070fc3ab0812c6d600c2dfab3671805
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Fix formatting


  Commit: 06a89351bc04ea4a3423fddbba3a46caa6ff33d5
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/06a89351bc04ea4a3423fddbba3a46caa6ff33d5
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Proofread version negotiation and correct errors


  Commit: 10be7da7a955c036fda774ac50c5d8b9166cb511
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/10be7da7a955c036fda774ac50c5d8b9166cb511
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Use hex, add initial registry contents


  Commit: e671b0d7151c8385413127fae597dc2e34c64fcf
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/e671b0d7151c8385413127fae597dc2e34c64fcf
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Transport parameters during 0-RTT are either remembered or defaults

This changes the definition for transport parameters from "MUST remember"
as I originally wrote up, to the frankly insane consensus position from
the Tokyo interim.

Closes #126


  Commit: bb4f04d7b0e34d8dbf19efad54be5a530b9f5faa
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/bb4f04d7b0e34d8dbf19efad54be5a530b9f5faa
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Fix long line


  Commit: 8922744059e9ec82ea39bdc30cc1cf970fd93f0b
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/8922744059e9ec82ea39bdc30cc1cf970fd93f0b
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Rename transport parameters, closes #300


  Commit: 8e5a5385d26c7c1c997778e7e45abaa159c91e3e
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/8e5a5385d26c7c1c997778e7e45abaa159c91e3e
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Cryptographic handshake, blah, blah


  Commit: 0fada3c9e3445b83e7bbfdd39481e5c8a16a03c7
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/0fada3c9e3445b83e7bbfdd39481e5c8a16a03c7
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Jana's review comments


  Commit: 51bf04e4096f46c7f2ac9131c9663ceb8c2c6dc1
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/51bf04e4096f46c7f2ac9131c9663ceb8c2c6dc1
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Expanding and refining source/client address validation


  Commit: d8db8c7ec0fded71036c6af89bac3f09c284f0fb
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/d8db8c7ec0fded71036c6af89bac3f09c284f0fb
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Note that the server sends address validation tokens to itself.  Closes #118.


  Commit: 0a376eb9d5ed5c79b79cb3ad64d0de1fc2c28c03
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/0a376eb9d5ed5c79b79cb3ad64d0de1fc2c28c03
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md

  Log Message:
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  Small refinements


  Commit: 70cb293651753e3b1d2916d230e0e4116e969366
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/70cb293651753e3b1d2916d230e0e4116e969366
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Capitals are great, but not that Good.


  Commit: 5eeabdcdb7c98caa8c44ba1cbfd5b7bf720f3034
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/5eeabdcdb7c98caa8c44ba1cbfd5b7bf720f3034
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Add text on interaction between hard-to-guess and integrity checks


Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/4db20b49748c...5eeabdcdb7c9
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section 8 of transport:`

>  If a QUIC endpoint determines that the PMTU between any pair of local and remote IP addresses has fallen below 1280 octets, it MUST immediately cease sending QUIC packets between those IP addresses. This may result in abrupt termination of the connection if all pairs are affected. In this case, an endpoint SHOULD send a Public Reset packet to indicate the failure. 

but PR is defined as being a last resort and it is of course not authenticated.. while it is short, a CONNECTION_CLOSE only packet would also be below minimum MTUs for IPvmumble, and is authenticated and could carry some diagnostic information.

It seems like this error can be authenticated and therefore should be.. and more generally we shouldn't promote error reporting to RST as its interaction with already sent data is very unclear if TCP RST is any kind of corollary.
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<p>section 8 of transport:`</p>
<blockquote>
<p>If a QUIC endpoint determines that the PMTU between any pair of local and remote IP addresses has fallen below 1280 octets, it MUST immediately cease sending QUIC packets between those IP addresses. This may result in abrupt termination of the connection if all pairs are affected. In this case, an endpoint SHOULD send a Public Reset packet to indicate the failure.</p>
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<p>but PR is defined as being a last resort and it is of course not authenticated.. while it is short, a CONNECTION_CLOSE only packet would also be below minimum MTUs for IPvmumble, and is authenticated and could carry some diagnostic information.</p>
<p>It seems like this error can be authenticated and therefore should be.. and more generally we shouldn't promote error reporting to RST as its interaction with already sent data is very unclear if TCP RST is any kind of corollary.<br>
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These are two separate requirements: the first describes when the server can use the VERSION flag, the second describes when the client can use the VERSION flag.

The latter sentence is the logical conjunction:

```
must_include_version_flag = has_1rtt_keys() && received_packet_without_version()
```

Can you propose a way to reword this that is less confusing to you?

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<p>These are two separate requirements: the first describes when the serv=
er can use the VERSION flag, the second describes when the client can use=
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<p>The latter sentence is the logical conjunction:</p>
<pre><code>must_include_version_flag =3D has_1rtt_keys() &amp;&amp; recei=
ved_packet_without_version()
</code></pre>
<p>Can you propose a way to reword this that is less confusing to you?</p=
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@martinthomson: Seems I didn't read carefully enough. There's no conflict in that paragraph. Sorry for that!

I'd still suggest to shorten the second sentence to 

> The client MUST set the VERSION flag and include its selected version on all packets until it has 1-RTT keys.

because there's no way a client can obtain a 1-RTT key from a version negotiation packet.

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I'd like to go through this a little more thoroughly, making sure that I understand the principles driving it.  I think that there are just two problems that we have to deal with: gaps and reordering.

I've finally had some quiet time to think this over.  It's over-engineering time.  Sorry about the length of this, but this has been bugging me for some time.

## Gaps

The other side might have a large gap.  If this happens, you don't want them confusing packet `N` with `N + 2^(size-1)`.  

BTW, I hope that this never happens, losing `2^(size-1)` packets is pretty serious, even for 8-bit packet numbers.

The first part of Ian's proposal deals with this: if you have seen an acknowledgment for packet `N`, then you can send packets up to `N + 2^(size-1)` and be sure that the receiver will not mistake them for earlier packets.  Ian is right in picking MUST here, anything else is inviting complete lack of synchronization.

## Reordering

Reordering turns out to be far more complex. 

Here the concern is that a is delayed so far that it drops behind a packet that was sent after it, or maybe many packets.  The failure case is where packet `N` arrives after packet `N + 2^(size-1) - 1`.  Packet `N` and the expected packet (`N + 2^(size-1)`) are interchangeable, but packet `N` will simply fail to be decrypted and will be dropped.

One model that we might use to analyze this selects a packet size that results in packet `N` being dropped on arrival only when that reordering would otherwise result in the [packet being declared lost](https://quicwg.github.io/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-recovery.html#detecting-lost-packets).  As it turns out, loss recovery treats packets as lost so aggressively that this basically never happens.  In the time-based model, loss is is declared after a mere eighth of the RTT (kTimeReorderThreshold = 1/8); when counting packets, just three packets of reordering is all that we see before a packet is declared lost (kReorderingThreshold = 3).  That obviously favors retransmission pretty heavily, which is sensible, but it means that any window we would need for reordering based on that model is much smaller than the window needed for gaps.

The absolute minimum size we already have for dealing with gaps is either 1 RTT worth of packets in time (8 times larger than we'd need for reordering), or 128 in packets (42 times more).

That says to me that "tolerate arbitrary reordering or loss of any packet in flight" isn't a goal that this can achieve without a pretty significant change to loss recovery.

A better model recognizes the difference between detected and actual loss.  In that model, a reordered packet that has its packet number recovered is far more useful to the receiver, even if it has to be retransmitted.  That suggests that there is value in a larger packet number encoding, even if packets end up being marked as lost.

If recognizing the difference between detected and actual loss is the goal then "in flight" or outstanding isn't the right basis upon which to choose the size.  Anything loss recovery tells us doesn't help because we've already established that the packet is being declared lost after the tiniest bit of reordering.  What you want to do is avoid actually needing the retransmission, even if you have to waste the bandwidth on sending a second copy of the data.  In choosing an encoding size, the only factor you want to consider is how much reordering you are *really* getting (or, how much reordering the other side is getting).

(On this point, real data would allow us to learn what a sensible global value might be.  It might be based on RTT or BDP or something if we were getting fancy.  That's about the best we can expect to have.)

If the intent is to use the oldest outstanding packet as a proxy for that, then it's not really that much different to the gaps thing.  It's only adding an eighth to the number of packets that are considered in scope, up to three extra packets.

Better to simply state two things: reordering is more likely to result in packets being declared lost than it is in packets actually being unusable, even with small packets; and, suggest using a larger packet number as it increases the chances that retransmission won't be needed for a badly reordered packet.  No "SHOULD" necessary I think.

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<p>I'd like to go through this a little more thoroughly, making sure that=
 I understand the principles driving it.  I think that there are just two=
 problems that we have to deal with: gaps and reordering.</p>
<p>I've finally had some quiet time to think this over.  It's over-engine=
ering time.  Sorry about the length of this, but this has been bugging me=
 for some time.</p>
<h2>Gaps</h2>
<p>The other side might have a large gap.  If this happens, you don't wan=
t them confusing packet <code>N</code> with <code>N + 2^(size-1)</code>.<=
/p>
<p>BTW, I hope that this never happens, losing <code>2^(size-1)</code> pa=
ckets is pretty serious, even for 8-bit packet numbers.</p>
<p>The first part of Ian's proposal deals with this: if you have seen an =
acknowledgment for packet <code>N</code>, then you can send packets up to=
 <code>N + 2^(size-1)</code> and be sure that the receiver will not mista=
ke them for earlier packets.  Ian is right in picking MUST here, anything=
 else is inviting complete lack of synchronization.</p>
<h2>Reordering</h2>
<p>Reordering turns out to be far more complex.</p>
<p>Here the concern is that a is delayed so far that it drops behind a pa=
cket that was sent after it, or maybe many packets.  The failure case is =
where packet <code>N</code> arrives after packet <code>N + 2^(size-1) - 1=
</code>.  Packet <code>N</code> and the expected packet (<code>N + 2^(siz=
e-1)</code>) are interchangeable, but packet <code>N</code> will simply f=
ail to be decrypted and will be dropped.</p>
<p>One model that we might use to analyze this selects a packet size that=
 results in packet <code>N</code> being dropped on arrival only when that=
 reordering would otherwise result in the <a href=3D"https://quicwg.githu=
b.io/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-recovery.html#detecting-lost-packets">pa=
cket being declared lost</a>.  As it turns out, loss recovery treats pack=
ets as lost so aggressively that this basically never happens.  In the ti=
me-based model, loss is is declared after a mere eighth of the RTT (kTime=
ReorderThreshold =3D 1/8); when counting packets, just three packets of r=
eordering is all that we see before a packet is declared lost (kReorderin=
gThreshold =3D 3).  That obviously favors retransmission pretty heavily, =
which is sensible, but it means that any window we would need for reorder=
ing based on that model is much smaller than the window needed for gaps.<=
/p>
<p>The absolute minimum size we already have for dealing with gaps is eit=
her 1 RTT worth of packets in time (8 times larger than we'd need for reo=
rdering), or 128 in packets (42 times more).</p>
<p>That says to me that "tolerate arbitrary reordering or loss of any pac=
ket in flight" isn't a goal that this can achieve without a pretty signif=
icant change to loss recovery.</p>
<p>A better model recognizes the difference between detected and actual l=
oss.  In that model, a reordered packet that has its packet number recove=
red is far more useful to the receiver, even if it has to be retransmitte=
d.  That suggests that there is value in a larger packet number encoding,=
 even if packets end up being marked as lost.</p>
<p>If recognizing the difference between detected and actual loss is the =
goal then "in flight" or outstanding isn't the right basis upon which to =
choose the size.  Anything loss recovery tells us doesn't help because we=
've already established that the packet is being declared lost after the =
tiniest bit of reordering.  What you want to do is avoid actually needing=
 the retransmission, even if you have to waste the bandwidth on sending a=
 second copy of the data.  In choosing an encoding size, the only factor =
you want to consider is how much reordering you are <em>really</em> getti=
ng (or, how much reordering the other side is getting).</p>
<p>(On this point, real data would allow us to learn what a sensible glob=
al value might be.  It might be based on RTT or BDP or something if we we=
re getting fancy.  That's about the best we can expect to have.)</p>
<p>If the intent is to use the oldest outstanding packet as a proxy for t=
hat, then it's not really that much different to the gaps thing.  It's on=
ly adding an eighth to the number of packets that are considered in scope=
, up to three extra packets.</p>
<p>Better to simply state two things: reordering is more likely to result=
 in packets being declared lost than it is in packets actually being unus=
able, even with small packets; and, suggest using a larger packet number =
as it increases the chances that retransmission won't be needed for a bad=
ly reordered packet.  No "SHOULD" necessary I think.</p>

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  Branch: refs/heads/transport_parameters_mt
  Home:   https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts
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  Branch: refs/heads/stk_part2
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  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

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  Expanding and refining source/client address validation


  Commit: de36ef69da11438c87844ad4139e5ad306f8b15b
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  Note that the server sends address validation tokens to itself.  Closes #118.


  Commit: 3e68fc562d227110e1b66b6376748575629ae6a6
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  Small refinements


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  Capitals are great, but not that Good.


  Commit: 967769bd28e743700c6187e30cbb9c5f24965cef
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  Add text on interaction between hard-to-guess and integrity checks


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On gaps, another +1 to Ian's proposed language. 

As for reordering, the amount of reordering you can experience is a function of your inflight window, as is the packet size selection, so this shouldn't have any impact on packet number size selection, unless I'm missing something basic. A packet that arrives after it was already retransmitted and acknowledged can simply be dropped; there's nothing you can do to increase its utility.

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Hi

Thanks for the comment.
As regards to the ECE/CWR bits, I would believe that we have a reasonably g=
ood agreement that for QUIC it is best to echo the ECN bits as is. There ar=
e three variants in the draft and there is not conclusion which is the best=
 alternative (or if there should be something else)

/Ingemar

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Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Explicit Congestion Notification (ECN) (#=
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I endorse mandatory ECN support in QUIC.

I see that there's now an internet-draft on this subject:
(https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-johansson-quic-ecn-00)

It's debatable if it's better to put the ECE/CWR bits in the ACK frame (as =
the draft suggests) or in some newly-liberated public flags.

As an added feature/bug, depending on your perspective, service providers i=
nterested in enforcing fairness or bandwidth limits could use ECN bits as f=
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eive window, but that is not available here.

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Hi
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<br>
Thanks for the comment.
<br>
As regards to the ECE/CWR bits, I would believe that we have a reasonably g=
ood agreement that for QUIC it is best to echo the ECN bits as is. There ar=
e three variants in the draft and there is not conclusion which is the best=
 alternative (or if there should be something else)
<br>

<br>
/Ingemar
<br>

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I endorse mandatory ECN support in QUIC.
<br>

<br>
I see that there&#39;s now an internet-draft on this subject:
<br>
(https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-johansson-quic-ecn-00)
<br>

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It&#39;s debatable if it&#39;s better to put the ECE/CWR bits in the ACK fr=
ame (as the draft suggests) or in some newly-liberated public flags.
<br>

<br>
As an added feature/bug, depending on your perspective, service providers i=
nterested in enforcing fairness or bandwidth limits could use ECN bits as f=
airly clean way to do this. With TCP, a common flow-control tool is the rec=
eive window, but that is not available here.
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Just one note: The packet number size influence the max size of a frame that can be sent. So if a packet (let's say containing only one frame that take the full max size of a packet) gets lost. And in between sending the packet and retransmitting the frame the packet number size needs to be increased, it would be good to be able to retransmit that frame with the smaller packet number, otherwise you will need an extra packet to retransmit only 1 byte of data.

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@ddragana I don't really see this problem; I guess you'd only increase the packet number size if you have more data to send. First the retransmitted frame goes in a new packet that probably has a packet number that needs the larger size. And second if might just put the new 1 byte frame into a packet with other frames (assuming you have more data to send).

Regarding packets that arrive late and have already been retransmitted. I guess the question is how to distinguish a very late packet from a new one if the packet number wrapped around in between. I guess that is now kind of the same problem we have with TCP and retransmissions (hopefully this just happens much less often). If we decide to have a packet number echo, we could use that to distinguish old and new packets...

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The "including the First Timestamp" text seems to be gone and now I have no idea how to determine if this first optional timestamp is actually there. Can someone who understands how this is supposed to work please clarify?

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6.4 currently has
`TODO: Connections that are terminated are added to a TIME_WAIT list at the server, so as to absorb any straggler packets in the network. Discuss TIME_WAIT list.`

this is an open issue for the TODO.

Some initial thoughts: is it always the server that is in TIME_WAIT as opposed to the TCP active close behavior? (seems fine at first blush, but asking for a friend who is less sure :)).

what happens in the TIME_WAIT state.. retransmissions? What happens when you receive packets (ignored - trigger retrrans, RST?)

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<p>6.4 currently has<br>
<code>TODO: Connections that are terminated are added to a TIME_WAIT list at the server, so as to absorb any straggler packets in the network. Discuss TIME_WAIT list.</code></p>
<p>this is an open issue for the TODO.</p>
<p>Some initial thoughts: is it always the server that is in TIME_WAIT as opposed to the TCP active close behavior? (seems fine at first blush, but asking for a friend who is less sure :)).</p>
<p>what happens in the TIME_WAIT state.. retransmissions? What happens when you receive packets (ignored - trigger retrrans, RST?)</p>

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If the num_timestamps byte is 0, the timestamp section is not present..  

The currentt text also says "Delta Largest Acked 1..N(opt, repeated)" and Time Since Previous Timestamp 1..N(opt, repeated)" but I believe these should be 0..N.

I'm going to update the timestamp section in the near future, so I'll ensure that's fixed and clarify that if the num timestamps is 0, the timestamp section is absent.


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So if num_timestamps is 1, then one delta and the first timestamp must be present for a total of 40 bytes in this section?

If so, I don't see how 0..N makes sense for the additional timestamps. Maybe there should be text saying that N = num_timestamps - 1.

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In the current Google QUIC implementation, for each connection in time
wait, the server saves the serialized "close" packet for that connection.
When new packets are received for that connection, the server retransmits
the close packet (subject to back-off). This is to handle the case where
the close packet is lost and so the client is unaware that the connection
has been closed. I can imagine that there might be better alternatives,
though.

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> 6.4 currently has
> TODO: Connections that are terminated are added to a TIME_WAIT list at the
> server, so as to absorb any straggler packets in the network. Discuss
> TIME_WAIT list.
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> this is an open issue for the TODO.
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> Some initial thoughts: is it always the server that is in TIME_WAIT as
> opposed to the TCP active close behavior? (seems fine at first blush, but
> asking for a friend who is less sure :)).
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> what happens in the TIME_WAIT state.. retransmissions? What happens when
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Totally agree. CONNECTION_CLOSE seems much more appropriate here.

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wrote:

> section 8 of transport:`
>
> If a QUIC endpoint determines that the PMTU between any pair of local a=
nd
> remote IP addresses has fallen below 1280 octets, it MUST immediately c=
ease
> sending QUIC packets between those IP addresses. This may result in abr=
upt
> termination of the connection if all pairs are affected. In this case, =
an
> endpoint SHOULD send a Public Reset packet to indicate the failure.
>
> but PR is defined as being a last resort and it is of course not
> authenticated.. while it is short, a CONNECTION_CLOSE only packet would=

> also be below minimum MTUs for IPvmumble, and is authenticated and coul=
d
> carry some diagnostic information.
>
> It seems like this error can be authenticated and therefore should be..=

> and more generally we shouldn't promote error reporting to RST as its
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Totally agree. CONNECTION_CLOSE seems much more appropriate here.<br>
<br>
On Sun, Feb 19, 2017 at 8:01 PM, Patrick McManus &lt;notifications@github=
.com&gt;<br>
wrote:<br>
<br>
&gt; section 8 of transport:`<br>
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y cease<br>
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e, an<br>
&gt; endpoint SHOULD send a Public Reset packet to indicate the failure.<=
br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; but PR is defined as being a last resort and it is of course not<br>=

&gt; authenticated.. while it is short, a CONNECTION_CLOSE only packet wo=
uld<br>
&gt; also be below minimum MTUs for IPvmumble, and is authenticated and c=
ould<br>
&gt; carry some diagnostic information.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; It seems like this error can be authenticated and therefore should b=
e..<br>
&gt; and more generally we shouldn&#39;t promote error reporting to RST a=
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The extra condition is a concession to proprietary things that Google are doing.  If you can convince @janaiyengar, I'd be very happy to make that change.

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@britram,

> the amount of reordering you can experience is a function of your inflight window

That doesn't match the definition we have for "in flight" (either not acknowledged or declared lost).  If you consider not acknowledged as potentials, then that works, but then you are probably considering packets that are truly lost in the calculation and it gets sticky.

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Duplicate of #289.

(FWIW, my reading of the list is that this is unequivocally good.)

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<p>Duplicate of <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/289" class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/289" data-id="206738085" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-permission-text="Issue title is private">#289</a>.</p>
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@ddragana, does it help if you stop considering this as retransmission of the *frame* and just a repair of lost *data*?  If you lose a packet, then the frames it contains don't need to be retransmitted, it's the data that needs to be assembled into new frames in new packets.

I realize that this changes the dynamics significantly.  You decide that you need a new packet, then you look for things to stuff into it.  But I think that works better overall.  If you lost a packet that had one STREAM frame, you might find that you have an ACK to send, or a few WINDOW_UPDATEs.  All of those things are reasons that you need to send less than the entirety of what was lost.

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<p>I realize that this changes the dynamics significantly.  You decide that=
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hink that works better overall.  If you lost a packet that had one STREAM f=
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on the list @janaiyengar notes

> On the point of what to do in TIME_WAIT, the server should hang on to some
> state. At the least, hanging on to the connection ID protects the server by
> preventing late packets from causing creation of new connection state, and
> the server can simply discard incoming packets for connection IDs in
> TIME_WAIT. (If a server wanted to hang on to more state, it could do so,
> allowing it to retransmit CONNECTION_CLOSE frames later, but as you note,
> this is more state and I wouldn't require it.)

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<p>on the list <a href=3D"https://github.com/janaiyengar" class=3D"user-m=
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<p>On the point of what to do in TIME_WAIT, the server should hang on to =
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sorry about the dup - it seems I still have trouble mining the github issue system effectively.

While we're at it the language in 6.4 that allows an endpoint to send a public_reset at any time to abruptly terminate an active connection should be significantly tightened or removed.. we don't want this to become the mechanism to ending things.

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<p>sorry about the dup - it seems I still have trouble mining the github =
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fwiw - I've had firefox telemetry looking at the h2 data on this for the last few weeks. It has ~4billion server generated HEADERS samples and 0 CONTINUATIONS


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<p>fwiw - I've had firefox telemetry looking at the h2 data on this for the last few weeks. It has ~4billion server generated HEADERS samples and 0 CONTINUATIONS</p>

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YAGNI time?

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<p>YAGNI time?</p>

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That's an very interesting data point.  We never got the measurements while developing h2, so we were left with speculation and a few corner cases.  I think that @MikeBishop had one of those perverse cases (was it Kerberos?).  The other was really big URIs.

Since this operates at a different layer and we don't need to constrain frame sizes for head of line blocking reasons, it's tempting to say 16bits of length is OK.  That's four times what we allow in h2.

+1 to YAGNI.

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<p>That's an very interesting data point.  We never got the measurements wh=
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A couple of observations:

- The places where this is most likely (behind firewalls in enterprises, in non-browser uses of H2) are least likely to show up in telemetry.

- Limiting the size of headers is a semantic change in HTTP; this is not a trivial thing.

- As we discussed in H2, the interop failures here are *really* nasty, especially for intermediaries.

- To me, much more interesting data would be some sense of how well greased CONTINUATION is in H2. 

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<p>A couple of observations:</p>
<ul>
<li>
<p>The places where this is most likely (behind firewalls in enterprises, i=
n non-browser uses of H2) are least likely to show up in telemetry.</p>
</li>
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<p>Limiting the size of headers is a semantic change in HTTP; this is not a=
 trivial thing.</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>As we discussed in H2, the interop failures here are <em>really</em> nas=
ty, especially for intermediaries.</p>
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<p>To me, much more interesting data would be some sense of how well grease=
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I do not see it as a big problem, I wrote it just as a note that that can happened and that we have a small overhead of sending a frame header for only one byte of data.
Form implementation perspective the things should be looked separately: we have data streams and not queued frames(or something). 
This was just a note, not a problem. 

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  Branch: refs/heads/ianswett-patch-1
  Home:   https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts
  Commit: b68d4b3d7053619a17d4f364342a5026551974ae
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/b68d4b3d7053619a17d4f364342a5026551974ae
  Author: ianswett <ianswett@users.noreply.github.com>
  Date:   2017-02-21 (Tue, 21 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md

  Log Message:
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  Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md

Fix an overly long line.



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Agreed, I think it's important to clarify when connection closes should be sent and when public resets are sent.  I think there's a lot of agreement around this, but there's not much text clarifying it yet.

The rules on processing them could be clarified as well.  ie: Should public resets before handshake completion be ignored, because there's no reason to ever send them?

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I think we want the ability to do out of band key negotiation, and not just for Google internal use cases, because I believe others will/do have similar use cases.

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That makes sense, I didn't consider that use case.
I guess nothing needs to be changed here then.

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<p>That makes sense, I didn't consider that use case.<br>
I guess nothing needs to be changed here then.</p>

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  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md

  Log Message:
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  Fix recovery formatting (#313)

* Replace uses of encrypted with protected.
* Constistenly use * instead of x everywhere for multiplication
* Remove trailing ;
* Convert the constants and variables into Kramdown definition lists.

* Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md

* Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md

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> Byte offset: A 64-bit unsigned integer indicating the absolute byte offset of data which can be sent on the given stream. In the case of connection-level flow control, the cumulative offset which can be sent on all streams that contribute to connection-level flow control.

Can we clarify what "the cumulative offset which can be sent on all streams" means? It reads as cumulative amount of data that can be sent on all streams including data already sent, and not an increment like in h2. 
I think this should be an increment similar to h2.

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<p>Byte offset: A 64-bit unsigned integer indicating the absolute byte offset of data which can be sent on the given stream. In the case of connection-level flow control, the cumulative offset which can be sent on all streams that contribute to connection-level flow control.</p>
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<p>Can we clarify what "the cumulative offset which can be sent on all streams" means? It reads as cumulative amount of data that can be sent on all streams including data already sent, and not an increment like in h2.<br>
I think this should be an increment similar to h2.</p>

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We considered that, but incremental differences are problematic when combined with reordering and loss.  Cumulative has no such problems, and the receiver can ignore old WINDOW_UPDATE values.

The only benefit I can think of for incremental would be slightly smaller encoding on the wire, but it's expected these messages are relatively infrequent, so that seems like a premature optimization.

Is there a benefit to incremental you have in mind?

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he receiver can ignore old WINDOW_UPDATE values.</p>
<p>The only benefit I can think of for incremental would be slightly smal=
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<p>Is there a benefit to incremental you have in mind?</p>

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The reason why I wrote this is that 2^64 is the limit to how much data can be sent on a connection, if the cumulative window updates are used.

This number is really large, therefore we do not need to change this.
I will close the issue.

Is there an error code when the connection flow control reaches 2^64 limit? or will it wrap around and start from 0? 
Is it "QUIC_FLOW_CONTROL_INVALID_WINDOW (0x80000040): : The peer received an invalid flow control window.", the explanation does not sound right?
Sorry if I miss that in the draft.

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<p>The reason why I wrote this is that 2^64 is the limit to how much data=
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<p>This number is really large, therefore we do not need to change this.<=
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I will close the issue.</p>
<p>Is there an error code when the connection flow control reaches 2^64 l=
imit? or will it wrap around and start from 0?<br>
Is it "QUIC_FLOW_CONTROL_INVALID_WINDOW (0x80000040): : The peer received=
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Sorry if I miss that in the draft.</p>

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<p>Closed <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/329" class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/329" data-id="209200186" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-permission-text="Issue title is private">#329</a>.</p>

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>From discussion on the list, we could clarify the meaning of CONNECTION_CLOSE. Specifically, it would be good to clarify if it acts more like a TCP FIN or a TCP RST. I would suggest that the analog of a TCP FIN is a FIN on a QUIC stream as they both gracefully half-close a single bidirectional communication channel. After a FIN, retransmission of data may still occur to deal with packet loss.

A QUIC CONNECTION_CLOSE, on the other hand, is an immediate termination of the connection. No more data is retransmitted. As such it is more like a TCP RST.

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<p>From discussion on the list, we could clarify the meaning of CONNECTION_CLOSE. Specifically, it would be good to clarify if it acts more like a TCP FIN or a TCP RST. I would suggest that the analog of a TCP FIN is a FIN on a QUIC stream as they both gracefully half-close a single bidirectional communication channel. After a FIN, retransmission of data may still occur to deal with packet loss.</p>
<p>A QUIC CONNECTION_CLOSE, on the other hand, is an immediate termination of the connection. No more data is retransmitted. As such it is more like a TCP RST.</p>

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> +     packets, and
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+   * 1-RTT keys have forward secrecy
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+* authenticated values for the transport parameters of the peer (see
+  {{transport-parameters}})
+
+* authenticated confirmation of version negotiation (see {{version-validation}})
+
+* authenticated negotiation of an application protocol (TLS uses ALPN
+  {{?RFC7301}} for this purpose)
+
+* for the server, the ability to carry data that provides assurance that the
+  client can receive packets that are addressed with the transport address that
+  is claimed by the client (see {{source-address-token}})
+

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<p><b>@janaiyengar</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/122#discussion_r102340256">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +     packets, and
+
+   * 1-RTT keys have forward secrecy
+
+* authenticated values for the transport parameters of the peer (see
+  {{transport-parameters}})
+
+* authenticated confirmation of version negotiation (see {{version-validation}})
+
+* authenticated negotiation of an application protocol (TLS uses ALPN
+  {{?RFC7301}} for this purpose)
+
+* for the server, the ability to carry data that provides assurance that the
+  client can receive packets that are addressed with the transport address that
+  is claimed by the client (see {{source-address-token}})
+
</pre>
<p>Gotcha. Cool -- thanks for pointing me to <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/275" class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/275" data-id="206363760" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-permission-text="Issue title is private">#275</a>.</p>

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>  ## Crypto and Transport Handshake {#handshake}
 
 QUIC relies on a combined crypto and transport handshake to minimize connection
-establishment latency.  QUIC provides a dedicated stream (Stream ID 1) to be
-used for performing a combined connection and security handshake (streams are
-described in detail in {{streams}}).  The crypto handshake protocol encapsulates
-and delivers QUIC's transport handshake to the peer on the crypto stream.  The
-first QUIC packet sent by client to the server MUST carry handshake information
-as data on Stream ID 1.
+establishment latency.  QUIC allocates stream 1 for the cryptographic handshake.
+This version of QUIC uses TLS.
+
+QUIC provides this stream with reliable, ordered delivery of data.  In return,
+TLS provides QUIC with:

Ping on this comment -- since you're probably going to have to rebase anyways.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/122#discussion_r102340872">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt;  ## Crypto and Transport Handshake {#handshake}
 
 QUIC relies on a combined crypto and transport handshake to minimize connection
-establishment latency.  QUIC provides a dedicated stream (Stream ID 1) to be
-used for performing a combined connection and security handshake (streams are
-described in detail in {{streams}}).  The crypto handshake protocol encapsulates
-and delivers QUIC&#39;s transport handshake to the peer on the crypto stream.  The
-first QUIC packet sent by client to the server MUST carry handshake information
-as data on Stream ID 1.
+establishment latency.  QUIC allocates stream 1 for the cryptographic handshake.
+This version of QUIC uses TLS.
+
+QUIC provides this stream with reliable, ordered delivery of data.  In return,
+TLS provides QUIC with:
</pre>
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  Branch: refs/heads/transport_parameters_mt
  Home:   https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts
  Commit: 1ffe4e9a397d28d03102a32d665e10a3f30d988e
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  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-22 (Wed, 22 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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1ffe4e9  Fix case


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  Branch: refs/heads/master
  Home:   https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts
  Commit: 05e848389bfc5e54981733b77ce91d1b17063fd8
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/05e848389bfc5e54981733b77ce91d1b17063fd8
  Author: Jana Iyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Removes use of the word crypto


  Commit: 4890980976fc467ce880785e740a96e3058ec501
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/4890980976fc467ce880785e740a96e3058ec501
  Author: Jana Iyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Revert "Replace uses of the word crypto with cryptographic"

This reverts commit 6081b18b985c9cd6617720ac0918b30b54a9b88e.


  Commit: c68d4c3f87b50ebaa73b57d250d9613add47ad4d
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c68d4c3f87b50ebaa73b57d250d9613add47ad4d
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Add definition of transport parameters to -transport


  Commit: df6be7dcdda7e4f3dcf7e23f517df1c0c28f479d
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/df6be7dcdda7e4f3dcf7e23f517df1c0c28f479d
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Define the extension in -tls


  Commit: 54b4a61e0d1922edbc730f841a9f2ba346b8eaa7
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/54b4a61e0d1922edbc730f841a9f2ba346b8eaa7
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Add a stub iana section, fix dead references


  Commit: 58b44bf9b5e15c529161c4d8c1888b4e7b6fd677
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/58b44bf9b5e15c529161c4d8c1888b4e7b6fd677
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Remove COPT, add rule about unknown extensions


  Commit: 69682c831f4bd2a0be0d05fd4d055a358c89b2f3
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/69682c831f4bd2a0be0d05fd4d055a358c89b2f3
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Reference WINDOW_UPDATE properly


  Commit: c6f4388dc58e2a76a6470b0413c7847254076972
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c6f4388dc58e2a76a6470b0413c7847254076972
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Remove extra sentence on ignoring unknown parameters


  Commit: 4e553f5b886194f38e891ed417e23010505170d5
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/4e553f5b886194f38e891ed417e23010505170d5
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  editorial


  Commit: c003df817b99fe07e586dc6cac34a389e26bc978
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c003df817b99fe07e586dc6cac34a389e26bc978
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Correct reference


  Commit: ff697d3b351b7d29ffcd80cc1b65612474e87df3
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/ff697d3b351b7d29ffcd80cc1b65612474e87df3
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Move crypto requirements to head of section


  Commit: 0a927e4af2bfb104e196f8b3d80ea53158997c50
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/0a927e4af2bfb104e196f8b3d80ea53158997c50
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md

  Log Message:
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  Wrap note


  Commit: b251df5185cdd6bebcd98c623c8af7cc562abf7d
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/b251df5185cdd6bebcd98c623c8af7cc562abf7d
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Remove QUIC-Crypto reference


  Commit: 64e9772ff2e1caf5ba501ff22ec56b842276c4ce
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/64e9772ff2e1caf5ba501ff22ec56b842276c4ce
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Transport parameter are available when the handshake completes


  Commit: 081ef5e884f5f8afac230b0a6595a62cea1ff90f
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/081ef5e884f5f8afac230b0a6595a62cea1ff90f
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Simplify the section on new parameters


  Commit: e5d5bf4bbc14b7e8113c8bebe52bb70ef06c57ec
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/e5d5bf4bbc14b7e8113c8bebe52bb70ef06c57ec
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Add IANA considerations


  Commit: 665a59a1f7bb820ff747181ce0473e6a20c9e61d
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/665a59a1f7bb820ff747181ce0473e6a20c9e61d
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md

  Log Message:
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  Add transport parameters to the handshake interface in TLS


  Commit: 895a68e5a070fc3ab0812c6d600c2dfab3671805
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/895a68e5a070fc3ab0812c6d600c2dfab3671805
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Fix formatting


  Commit: 06a89351bc04ea4a3423fddbba3a46caa6ff33d5
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/06a89351bc04ea4a3423fddbba3a46caa6ff33d5
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Proofread version negotiation and correct errors


  Commit: 10be7da7a955c036fda774ac50c5d8b9166cb511
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/10be7da7a955c036fda774ac50c5d8b9166cb511
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Use hex, add initial registry contents


  Commit: e671b0d7151c8385413127fae597dc2e34c64fcf
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/e671b0d7151c8385413127fae597dc2e34c64fcf
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Transport parameters during 0-RTT are either remembered or defaults

This changes the definition for transport parameters from "MUST remember"
as I originally wrote up, to the frankly insane consensus position from
the Tokyo interim.

Closes #126


  Commit: bb4f04d7b0e34d8dbf19efad54be5a530b9f5faa
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/bb4f04d7b0e34d8dbf19efad54be5a530b9f5faa
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Fix long line


  Commit: 8922744059e9ec82ea39bdc30cc1cf970fd93f0b
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/8922744059e9ec82ea39bdc30cc1cf970fd93f0b
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Rename transport parameters, closes #300


  Commit: 8e5a5385d26c7c1c997778e7e45abaa159c91e3e
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/8e5a5385d26c7c1c997778e7e45abaa159c91e3e
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Cryptographic handshake, blah, blah


  Commit: 0fada3c9e3445b83e7bbfdd39481e5c8a16a03c7
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/0fada3c9e3445b83e7bbfdd39481e5c8a16a03c7
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Jana's review comments


  Commit: 686aad7bb2e2ecc26125dd23e864e9eb83683567
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/686aad7bb2e2ecc26125dd23e864e9eb83683567
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Correct line length


  Commit: 1ffe4e9a397d28d03102a32d665e10a3f30d988e
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/1ffe4e9a397d28d03102a32d665e10a3f30d988e
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-22 (Wed, 22 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Fix case


  Commit: 8ec5114e935951f9eaaae934a5213d459aacf67f
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/8ec5114e935951f9eaaae934a5213d459aacf67f
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-22 (Wed, 22 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #122 from quicwg/transport_parameters_mt

Define transport parameters


Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/6251ab1170c2...8ec5114e9359
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  Branch: refs/heads/stk_part2
  Home:   https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts
  Commit: 7414eae505893aa936057db2ca80b6e65d03c965
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  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-22 (Wed, 22 Feb 2017)

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  Expanding and refining source/client address validation


  Commit: ac8f7f730828f08138831344e0c735ad470140e9
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  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-22 (Wed, 22 Feb 2017)

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  Note that the server sends address validation tokens to itself.  Closes #118.


  Commit: 8aae2ea04181010604f4c0f52f620381aecff82a
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  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-22 (Wed, 22 Feb 2017)

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  Small refinements


  Commit: e7e3dbcde48cc46b0ab1f36986d4feaee80f8c13
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  Date:   2017-02-22 (Wed, 22 Feb 2017)

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  Capitals are great, but not that Good.


  Commit: 45a2391c6fb23e9d508569e477b591149e5762ec
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  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-22 (Wed, 22 Feb 2017)

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  Add text on interaction between hard-to-guess and integrity checks


Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/967769bd28e7...45a2391c6fb2
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  Branch: refs/heads/grease_version_negotiation
  Home:   https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts
  Commit: 159063288265d7a581e2170672194f29d672e984
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  Author: martinduke <martin.h.duke@gmail.com>
  Date:   2016-12-21 (Wed, 21 Dec 2016)

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  Update draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

Rewrote the PMTUD section as discussed in Issue #64:
https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/64

Because of concern about user-space implementations controlling kernel PMTU mechanisms, and interest in PLPMTUD as an alternative to tradition ICMP PMTUD, this is a thick web of different options, MUSTs and SHOULDs. In my truest heart I would like to sweep a lot of this away and do a MUST based on around the ICMP system, but though wordy this is more likely to please everyone.


  Commit: 2021025b266b9ab983c22e3b428ea878db45f58c
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/2021025b266b9ab983c22e3b428ea878db45f58c
  Author: martinduke <martin.h.duke@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-01-10 (Tue, 10 Jan 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Update draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

Substantial edits for #106 to reflect comments for both it and #105.


  Commit: 6ef293130e793f8a5ec4459f4fa55a801cf99c66
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  Author: martinduke <martin.h.duke@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-01-11 (Wed, 11 Jan 2017)

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  Update draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

- Clarified that packet number ambiguity only exists in IPv4, as RFC 1885 requires IPv6 packet-too-big messages to be quite a bit longer.
- Addressed all of Ian's comments, except...
- I'm sticking with the MUST set DF for IPv4 handshake packets, because I don't see how the basic test-the-MTU mechanism works without it.


  Commit: 9fbcca385dbf5a43916b4f217ec4d4b62407a458
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  Author: martinduke <martin.h.duke@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-01-12 (Thu, 12 Jan 2017)

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  Revised PMTU section

Addressed Jana's comments.


  Commit: a97fff74b366a0057a80f038ff60361da98920a2
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/a97fff74b366a0057a80f038ff60361da98920a2
  Author: Marten Seemann <martenseemann@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-01-13 (Fri, 13 Jan 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  window updates should be based on data consumed, not data received


  Commit: 1e839af1a2661edf47a30d583e1e8137987f5f93
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/1e839af1a2661edf47a30d583e1e8137987f5f93
  Author: Marten Seemann <martenseemann@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-01-14 (Sat, 14 Jan 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  specify error code for flow control violations


  Commit: 3697fe37eb1d9b6892f3c3ddad29d187f76b9d47
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/3697fe37eb1d9b6892f3c3ddad29d187f76b9d47
  Author: Marten Seemann <martenseemann@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-01-14 (Sat, 14 Jan 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  allow sending a WINDOW_UPDATE frame multiple times


  Commit: 7ded7534c44b042c3746f8ce44ac2c667a2153dc
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/7ded7534c44b042c3746f8ce44ac2c667a2153dc
  Author: Marten Seemann <martenseemann@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-01-14 (Sat, 14 Jan 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  correctly describe connection-level flow control


  Commit: e7b455c745f1c2da93b1b393cad030e818e986e1
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/e7b455c745f1c2da93b1b393cad030e818e986e1
  Author: martinduke <martin.h.duke@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-01-13 (Fri, 13 Jan 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Update draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

Addressed Martin T's 01/12 comments.


  Commit: a3695178f3315f4740e4c44a4e16e92faf8b9f57
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  Author: Marten Seemann <martenseemann@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-01-16 (Mon, 16 Jan 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  add missing comma


  Commit: c5f104920852ecd0a29cf83e61f70f2444ba7770
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c5f104920852ecd0a29cf83e61f70f2444ba7770
  Author: Marten Seemann <martenseemann@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-01-16 (Mon, 16 Jan 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  improve condition when to ignore WINDOW_UPDATE


  Commit: 446d1bd2e2d1b1bb148b89f06dd449690f41e177
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/446d1bd2e2d1b1bb148b89f06dd449690f41e177
  Author: Marten Seemann <martenseemann@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-01-16 (Mon, 16 Jan 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  clarify the purpose of sending a WINDOW_UPDATE more than once


  Commit: e7683255809c372d2de7a4355a94036f384943b1
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/e7683255809c372d2de7a4355a94036f384943b1
  Author: martinduke <martin.h.duke@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-01-17 (Tue, 17 Jan 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Update draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

Removed the paragraph on handshake padding (now in Issue #164) so that the rest can be merged into the document.


  Commit: 7c41ea00b07e8c10fd29e5047f5f614e48b4597b
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/7c41ea00b07e8c10fd29e5047f5f614e48b4597b
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-01-24 (Tue, 24 Jan 2017)

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  Use the VERSION flag to identify 0-RTT packets

This aligns the transport draft with the tls draft.

The primary reason for using this identification is that there are three types
of keys that are in concurrent use during a 0-RTT handshake: unprotected
(cleartext), 0-RTT and 1-RTT.  Identifying 0-RTT packets this way allows the
server to avoid trial decryption.


  Commit: 223fd75c121fcf3ffcb8eb7312034d617ac1b37b
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  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-01-25 (Wed, 25 Jan 2017)

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  Require both version negotiation AND 1-RTT keys


  Commit: 5bf31689873343f75f8e7f7d854c360dc602a884
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/5bf31689873343f75f8e7f7d854c360dc602a884
  Author: martinduke <martin.h.duke@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-01-26 (Thu, 26 Jan 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Update draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

Added all the changes decided on in Tokyo for #64, #69, #139, #164.

I imagine any remaining comments will be editorial.


  Commit: c78460a2a56fea8b7aa0fc26ccb614a0c104acad
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c78460a2a56fea8b7aa0fc26ccb614a0c104acad
  Author: Mike Bishop <michbish@microsoft.com>
  Date:   2017-01-30 (Mon, 30 Jan 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Put Error Code at a consistent offset


  Commit: 3f8576db13cfb3677e8ace7c47af449edd61f746
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/3f8576db13cfb3677e8ace7c47af449edd61f746
  Author: Patrick McManus <mcmanus@ducksong.com>
  Date:   2017-01-31 (Tue, 31 Jan 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  clarify 5.2.2 frame type enumerations

I've always found 5.2.2's use of 1fdoooss and 01nullmm more confusing than helpful when trying to figure out what the frame type enumerations are. They are well defined later on in the STREAM and ACK frame definitions, but in the general frame type section it reads a bit unclear to me. This PR just enumerates the type ranges of each frame type and forgoes the bit level definitions.


  Commit: ec68a1eec5bc15dbf43115fbd122deb0a59610f4
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  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-01 (Wed, 01 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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    M README.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-http.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Merge branch 'master' into connection-flowcontrol


  Commit: 5bdf34045cada01b86f50798ecfcdba8c664528b
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/5bdf34045cada01b86f50798ecfcdba8c664528b
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-03 (Fri, 03 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Split streams intro into smaller pieces, add flow control


  Commit: 3e7364007e03bd7e3ca538d176f5a1d21a396497
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/3e7364007e03bd7e3ca538d176f5a1d21a396497
  Author: janaiyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-06 (Mon, 06 Feb 2017)

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  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #150 from marten-seemann/connection-flowcontrol

improve description of flow control


  Commit: a426fb34882a7e4ac3982d158d2bb4733488fb0d
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/a426fb34882a7e4ac3982d158d2bb4733488fb0d
  Author: janaiyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-06 (Mon, 06 Feb 2017)

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  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #207 from quicwg/0rtt_version_bit

Use the VERSION flag to identify 0-RTT packets


  Commit: 761038d5f4fd47ba5c71287a01c90d8858760e9b
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/761038d5f4fd47ba5c71287a01c90d8858760e9b
  Author: janaiyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-06 (Mon, 06 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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    M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md
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  Log Message:
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  Merge branch 'master' into consistent_offset


  Commit: 617b0121e3a950103a98c2f067f96a8e0c4bc19a
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/617b0121e3a950103a98c2f067f96a8e0c4bc19a
  Author: janaiyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-06 (Mon, 06 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #249 from quicwg/consistent_offset

Error Codes at a consistent offset


  Commit: 4b74314071b34ed43ebe71108ce182c6bb6543eb
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/4b74314071b34ed43ebe71108ce182c6bb6543eb
  Author: janaiyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-06 (Mon, 06 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #251 from mcmanus/patch-3

clarify 5.2.2 frame type enumerations


  Commit: 7732a91e137a36ffbc8c369efb228b9f70cab85c
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/7732a91e137a36ffbc8c369efb228b9f70cab85c
  Author: janaiyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-06 (Mon, 06 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #258 from quicwg/lightweight_stream_intro

Split streams intro into smaller pieces, add flow control


  Commit: c6661243a3834fb0642fed2e71cd5241d01ff8db
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c6661243a3834fb0642fed2e71cd5241d01ff8db
  Author: ianswett <ianswett@users.noreply.github.com>
  Date:   2017-02-07 (Tue, 07 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Move references to informational references (#190)

* Move references to informational references

Moves references to informational references, clarifies that SRTT and RTTVar are computed based on an RFC, and adds todos for the congestion control section for anything formerly in the references section.

* Fix informative references (#218)

* This should fix your build errors

* Fix the TLP reference as well


  Commit: cfaeff689a7d3d9a8204939c2cdea61f7e75077d
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/cfaeff689a7d3d9a8204939c2cdea61f7e75077d
  Author: martinduke <martin.h.duke@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-07 (Tue, 07 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Update draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

Addressed Martin Thomson's issues. Changes are not quite verbatim from his suggestions.


  Commit: 9fe0b7d2d8333247c67777412266dd7151e0fc8f
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/9fe0b7d2d8333247c67777412266dd7151e0fc8f
  Author: Mike Bishop <michael.bishop@microsoft.com>
  Date:   2017-02-07 (Tue, 07 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Immutable settings with no ACKs (#236)

Removes SETTINGS_ACK and makes settings immutable; prohibits server from sending until it sees SETTINGS.  Defines 0-RTT defaults.  Closes #181.


  Commit: 57935188890c3361785841a6294fdd136efa67c5
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/57935188890c3361785841a6294fdd136efa67c5
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-08 (Wed, 08 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #106 from martinduke/patch-1

PMTUD


  Commit: 073ddba830523c88fc269ac5251007c5e7b53ef5
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/073ddba830523c88fc269ac5251007c5e7b53ef5
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-08 (Wed, 08 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Fix whitespace


  Commit: 2b24854b6bd7a1cb28437c891bf21e8b8e460622
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/2b24854b6bd7a1cb28437c891bf21e8b8e460622
  Author: Mike Bishop <michbish@microsoft.com>
  Date:   2017-02-08 (Wed, 08 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Two error codes from the Chromium RST_STREAM enum


  Commit: 79eb6ccad089c335f72d3c5d58258e66883c216c
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/79eb6ccad089c335f72d3c5d58258e66883c216c
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-09 (Thu, 09 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #270 from quicwg/more_error_codes

Add two error codes from Chromium's RST_STREAM enum


  Commit: b2b779404e0ec8661bce8f864f1c7b993b4860a4
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/b2b779404e0ec8661bce8f864f1c7b993b4860a4
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-09 (Thu, 09 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  PADDING is a single 0 octet


  Commit: 485839413fe4dff72790ae2cfa8e06f52b8d6161
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/485839413fe4dff72790ae2cfa8e06f52b8d6161
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-09 (Thu, 09 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Move length-determining fields to the start of STREAM and ACK


  Commit: b09b36b550910563b53e7d612d6349709c518ae9
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/b09b36b550910563b53e7d612d6349709c518ae9
  Author: Mike Bishop <michbish@microsoft.com>
  Date:   2017-02-09 (Thu, 09 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-http.md
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  Log Message:
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  Placate Kramdown's table syntax oddities


  Commit: d68a0b1048fcadb285134c3d40aa81a32f2eefd6
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/d68a0b1048fcadb285134c3d40aa81a32f2eefd6
  Author: Mike Bishop <michbish@microsoft.com>
  Date:   2017-02-09 (Thu, 09 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Unshallow Circle's repo


  Commit: 26aa99e081d5e534ac46388a429a0dbbe49ad13f
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/26aa99e081d5e534ac46388a429a0dbbe49ad13f
  Author: Mike Bishop <michbish@microsoft.com>
  Date:   2017-02-09 (Thu, 09 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Don't need --unshallow any more


  Commit: 36fef3f2c1617aa4b428d87ec6d86c8516d01e45
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/36fef3f2c1617aa4b428d87ec6d86c8516d01e45
  Author: Mike Bishop <michbish@microsoft.com>
  Date:   2017-02-09 (Thu, 09 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Selectively unshallow


  Commit: bf02f94f146e9f5d801f9b2efbd0e111eafaf4a7
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/bf02f94f146e9f5d801f9b2efbd0e111eafaf4a7
  Author: Mike Bishop <michbish@microsoft.com>
  Date:   2017-02-09 (Thu, 09 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Cache pip and gem downloads


  Commit: 31eb8ea47b808ad08239cdae76dcc35f9ade859a
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/31eb8ea47b808ad08239cdae76dcc35f9ade859a
  Author: Mike Bishop <michbish@microsoft.com>
  Date:   2017-02-09 (Thu, 09 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Declare a recent Python version


  Commit: 3b22ee192da9606504cb5fecb1a736ff9347ab71
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/3b22ee192da9606504cb5fecb1a736ff9347ab71
  Author: Mike Bishop <michbish@microsoft.com>
  Date:   2017-02-09 (Thu, 09 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Fix whitespace


  Commit: 430e1f94cd6d5aa82faa188e993633dd0797b525
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/430e1f94cd6d5aa82faa188e993633dd0797b525
  Author: Mike Bishop <michbish@microsoft.com>
  Date:   2017-02-09 (Thu, 09 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Fix the fix


  Commit: ba4ae1a26c434332866b3adc4f06e3f42987d2ad
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/ba4ae1a26c434332866b3adc4f06e3f42987d2ad
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-10 (Fri, 10 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Stream 1 counts toward MSPC


  Commit: c8972c657252968e17af09ccd1121c14b3290fb8
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c8972c657252968e17af09ccd1121c14b3290fb8
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-10 (Fri, 10 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Random initial packet number


  Commit: 467b6a417318d321666b3257d9448feb978e354c
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/467b6a417318d321666b3257d9448feb978e354c
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-10 (Fri, 10 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Rewrite text on packet numbers


  Commit: 49c2f4a7e942daa238624fc5a64d925add22b535
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/49c2f4a7e942daa238624fc5a64d925add22b535
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-13 (Mon, 13 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Ian had some comments


  Commit: 0de60f8103d15ea08396491f97bc790e5e3693c0
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/0de60f8103d15ea08396491f97bc790e5e3693c0
  Author: janaiyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-13 (Mon, 13 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #276 from quicwg/internal_padding

PADDING is a single 0 octet


  Commit: 11983677875c23cb1d6f54844acdf6c6a7311b9f
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/11983677875c23cb1d6f54844acdf6c6a7311b9f
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-14 (Tue, 14 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Refine retransmission rules


  Commit: c5d53f595e99ab5eeffd86e6aa1a5f574f5215a6
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c5d53f595e99ab5eeffd86e6aa1a5f574f5215a6
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-14 (Tue, 14 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Redefine the calculation for packet number size in terms of the range of outstanding numbers, not the count


  Commit: ef880125c9e92ac183231887cda9256dbbbb6f57
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/ef880125c9e92ac183231887cda9256dbbbb6f57
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-14 (Tue, 14 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M circle.yml

  Log Message:
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  Update circle.yml to template


  Commit: f83842ee87b72077aa2175c06ab89558464d07c3
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/f83842ee87b72077aa2175c06ab89558464d07c3
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-14 (Tue, 14 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Integrity protection for the header


  Commit: d9d21223b48c3850fd750f45ae91f0bc7bb42315
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/d9d21223b48c3850fd750f45ae91f0bc7bb42315
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-14 (Tue, 14 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Add a section on prioritization


  Commit: 23545b32c375e94e00f3c888e665db0023e28ad6
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/23545b32c375e94e00f3c888e665db0023e28ad6
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-14 (Tue, 14 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Give figures numbers, correct PRIORITY caption (#301)


  Commit: 8157c3f99d63d4a82b434b0389ed718aa7354aa1
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/8157c3f99d63d4a82b434b0389ed718aa7354aa1
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-15 (Wed, 15 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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    M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md
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  Log Message:
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  Police the creation of long lines


  Commit: 7b962e8d7e847ab15583cda18495e0b2d09d1c4c
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/7b962e8d7e847ab15583cda18495e0b2d09d1c4c
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-15 (Wed, 15 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M Makefile
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    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Add a check for excessive line length in figures


  Commit: 49e0ca0c0a5d2bf72f4524e23f82b249bdfc3228
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/49e0ca0c0a5d2bf72f4524e23f82b249bdfc3228
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-15 (Wed, 15 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Updated information in ACK follows rules defined for the frame


  Commit: 647c11cbe1b41182633f1440dcc49ac2bcfc172a
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/647c11cbe1b41182633f1440dcc49ac2bcfc172a
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-15 (Wed, 15 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Use the word "acknowledge" in full when used in prose.


  Commit: 4d31689132e859a8d15b7e39a1462c73401f2824
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  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-15 (Wed, 15 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Nits, thanks Mike


  Commit: 31b92d296b28aa45506acdb223c7d9e7dbbc8c32
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/31b92d296b28aa45506acdb223c7d9e7dbbc8c32
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-15 (Wed, 15 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Making more extensive changes


  Commit: de556919e7bc669f28f2d5e0f6a5c16629fbf5f3
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/de556919e7bc669f28f2d5e0f6a5c16629fbf5f3
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-15 (Wed, 15 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Fix line lengths


  Commit: 6c23d06991834e22ce061ce479f1b8d0a8ae370e
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/6c23d06991834e22ce061ce479f1b8d0a8ae370e
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-15 (Wed, 15 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-http.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Sean isn't a double-editor


  Commit: 7197aff9853d2664987b2bf26b9aa03efce6b334
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/7197aff9853d2664987b2bf26b9aa03efce6b334
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-16 (Thu, 16 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Integrate Ian's suggested text


  Commit: 51d962b999179193ec0530dd56c8fe61948d4c2d
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/51d962b999179193ec0530dd56c8fe61948d4c2d
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-16 (Thu, 16 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Using Ian's suggested names


  Commit: 5cf69e80781d829df2cdabe9c31119ce72c0c0aa
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/5cf69e80781d829df2cdabe9c31119ce72c0c0aa
  Author: janaiyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-16 (Thu, 16 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Merge pull request #277 from quicwg/move_frame_lengths

Move length-determining fields to the start of STREAM and ACK


  Commit: d03bd182225dba9c1bf8a5ca49d5117e2e2fddbf
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/d03bd182225dba9c1bf8a5ca49d5117e2e2fddbf
  Author: janaiyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-16 (Thu, 16 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #282 from quicwg/MSPC_zero

Stream 1 counts toward MSPC


  Commit: 56b5a417e04955c7809b61f95ec865627e7fe4c6
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/56b5a417e04955c7809b61f95ec865627e7fe4c6
  Author: janaiyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-16 (Thu, 16 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #283 from quicwg/packet0number

Random initial packet number


  Commit: da282a730da8a2396d2a5a540fbf783377f4acb6
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/da282a730da8a2396d2a5a540fbf783377f4acb6
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #304 from quicwg/figure_line_length

Add a check for excessive line length in figures


  Commit: 5d8cd38aed89ead66c990519ebe041d73886a3c0
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/5d8cd38aed89ead66c990519ebe041d73886a3c0
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Shorten the abstract

The abstract is a direct copy of the intro.  We don't need to repeat ourselves.
This just keeps the important information.


  Commit: 752537cc977b99a6c1aee069ec6d71e77dd0e6ae
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/752537cc977b99a6c1aee069ec6d71e77dd0e6ae
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Small digestible chunks


  Commit: 996f3aa9632f39a1394db70a5b2fcd1ffa277891
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/996f3aa9632f39a1394db70a5b2fcd1ffa277891
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Take 2


  Commit: 71d0d5b613570339bf5a2cf22ff26edb48e068e0
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/71d0d5b613570339bf5a2cf22ff26edb48e068e0
  Author: janaiyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-16 (Thu, 16 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #288 from quicwg/cleanup_packet_number

Cleanup packet number text


  Commit: 983c2053430f5374119ff44becb64416075a162e
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/983c2053430f5374119ff44becb64416075a162e
  Author: janaiyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-16 (Thu, 16 Feb 2017)

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  Merge pull request #298 from quicwg/frames_arent_retransmitted

Refine retransmission rules


  Commit: 8817ef0f3e01387437dc5d56b05b7b0dcba6b074
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/8817ef0f3e01387437dc5d56b05b7b0dcba6b074
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

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    M draft-ietf-quic-http.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Merge branch 'master' into redefine_outstanding


  Commit: d8911972c6bc142eed1bb7f789c46f74d53e0645
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/d8911972c6bc142eed1bb7f789c46f74d53e0645
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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    M draft-ietf-quic-http.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md
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  Log Message:
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  Merge branch 'master' into transport_priority


  Commit: 3764464f8afcda0d85501e6b9ed8f844d48ed5ec
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/3764464f8afcda0d85501e6b9ed8f844d48ed5ec
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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    M draft-ietf-quic-http.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md
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  Log Message:
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  Merge branch 'master' into ack_in_full


  Commit: 85bee5baa76f4dd37711cd7048f6dcc79d92cfce
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/85bee5baa76f4dd37711cd7048f6dcc79d92cfce
  Author: seanturner <sean@sn3rd.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Adding an informative reference for MPTCP.


  Commit: e1002e53187065b801266cd83c86f0ce16a30b6b
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/e1002e53187065b801266cd83c86f0ce16a30b6b
  Author: ianswett <ianswett@users.noreply.github.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Add handshake retransmissions (#266)

* Add handshake retransmissions

* Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md

* Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md

* Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md

Add some text on handshake state transitions cancelling handshake frames.

* Fix Ian's trailing whitespace

* Reformat example


  Commit: f00fe5feca61ebad478284d154b1a13e4daf6da1
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  Author: seanturner <sean@sn3rd.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Adding an informative reference for randomness requirements.


  Commit: 702026848298cf1dbf995db4718f4fd8ba825359
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/702026848298cf1dbf995db4718f4fd8ba825359
  Author: seanturner <sean@sn3rd.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Fixing spaces; hopefully this will fix the Travis issue as well.


  Commit: 9bf13459b96927cfd199d78b4add0311b11c9856
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/9bf13459b96927cfd199d78b4add0311b11c9856
  Author: Jana Iyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Changing the phrase crypto cover


  Commit: 6081b18b985c9cd6617720ac0918b30b54a9b88e
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/6081b18b985c9cd6617720ac0918b30b54a9b88e
  Author: Jana Iyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Replace uses of the word crypto with cryptographic


  Commit: 8d96b05969a1b29fdac7929114719d1e577d1364
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/8d96b05969a1b29fdac7929114719d1e577d1364
  Author: Jana Iyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Revert "Replace uses of the word crypto with cryptographic"

This reverts commit 6081b18b985c9cd6617720ac0918b30b54a9b88e.


  Commit: 85f8cbf8b974c541fc060a62c4b159933608e833
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  Author: Jana Iyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Revert "Changing the phrase crypto cover"

This reverts commit 9bf13459b96927cfd199d78b4add0311b11c9856.


  Commit: bf0e4e97fd7e9451dea2cc974342b376aba32ec3
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/bf0e4e97fd7e9451dea2cc974342b376aba32ec3
  Author: janaiyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #306 from quicwg/ack_in_full

Use the word "acknowledge" in full when used in prose


  Commit: f3b01afe66a32eaef5253a9204b6f009a42ad521
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/f3b01afe66a32eaef5253a9204b6f009a42ad521
  Author: janaiyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #315 from quicwg/quic_trans-random-ref

Adding an informative reference for randomness requirements.


  Commit: f604b5451defd91a9dc2ca3bf8766413d9d29b4a
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/f604b5451defd91a9dc2ca3bf8766413d9d29b4a
  Author: janaiyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #312 from quicwg/quic_trans-mptcp-ref

Adding an informative reference for MPTCP.


  Commit: a7a7989a5cc0d6a3f1561817814f1cdebe0e332a
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/a7a7989a5cc0d6a3f1561817814f1cdebe0e332a
  Author: janaiyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #302 from quicwg/aad_header

Integrity protection for the header


  Commit: eaa65579cae68b11cc13991f4e7eb4ece3c1dbdf
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/eaa65579cae68b11cc13991f4e7eb4ece3c1dbdf
  Author: janaiyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #303 from quicwg/transport_priority

Add a section on stream prioritization


  Commit: 6123667c0c3cb42d07a5703b3a24ec241ebd67de
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/6123667c0c3cb42d07a5703b3a24ec241ebd67de
  Author: janaiyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #299 from quicwg/redefine_outstanding

Redefine outstanding


  Commit: dc4d44835aa65c6b6af34edc3dd29765a6f0dce4
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/dc4d44835aa65c6b6af34edc3dd29765a6f0dce4
  Author: janaiyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #92 from quicwg/short_abstract

Short abstract


  Commit: c2c90d471008b5e74c7dc8cec792bab56d5b8eca
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c2c90d471008b5e74c7dc8cec792bab56d5b8eca
  Author: seanturner <sean@sn3rd.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Adding a reference for ASCII.


  Commit: 08c8f41caae3981786277e89cd0b096ae3d1cfe8
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/08c8f41caae3981786277e89cd0b096ae3d1cfe8
  Author: janaiyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Merge pull request #318 from quicwg/quic_trans-ascii-ref

Adding a reference for ASCII


  Commit: bf49e20db78994776106b9ec8c2376f4e60cea47
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/bf49e20db78994776106b9ec8c2376f4e60cea47
  Author: seanturner <sean@sn3rd.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Some minor editorial tweaks for s6.2.1.2.


  Commit: 044edc1761230df967aae7630f49cfa81891cac2
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/044edc1761230df967aae7630f49cfa81891cac2
  Author: seanturner <sean@sn3rd.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Some minor editorial tweaks for s6.1.


  Commit: e613dbfa4c4c40caf143e1a84fd7b5627a0ae96c
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/e613dbfa4c4c40caf143e1a84fd7b5627a0ae96c
  Author: seanturner <sean@sn3rd.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Adding a ')' in s5.2.


  Commit: d9d119afaf1b8ca21fb16134dff0abf4ffc615cc
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/d9d119afaf1b8ca21fb16134dff0abf4ffc615cc
  Author: janaiyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #320 from quicwg/quic_trans-s6.2.1.2

Some minor editorial tweaks for s6.2.1.2.


  Commit: 567ea55258b3329ad315104c63befd35e132f8bc
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/567ea55258b3329ad315104c63befd35e132f8bc
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-18 (Sat, 18 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #322 from quicwg/quic_trans-s5.2-editorial

Adding a ')' in s5.2.


  Commit: ee98dee0f3043b78de22572638e75b67a4ea60e6
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/ee98dee0f3043b78de22572638e75b67a4ea60e6
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-18 (Sat, 18 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #321 from quicwg/quic_trans-s6.1-editorial

Some minor editorial tweaks for s6.1.


  Commit: 6baf44caae3db986e00e4b4fa40edfc57d55b05c
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/6baf44caae3db986e00e4b4fa40edfc57d55b05c
  Author: seanturner <sean@sn3rd.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Changing reference.


  Commit: 7c869ee495670dc67b285163579176be35b71a10
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/7c869ee495670dc67b285163579176be35b71a10
  Author: janaiyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #324 from quicwg/quic_trans-s7-ref

Changing reference


  Commit: 05e848389bfc5e54981733b77ce91d1b17063fd8
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/05e848389bfc5e54981733b77ce91d1b17063fd8
  Author: Jana Iyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Removes use of the word crypto


  Commit: 4890980976fc467ce880785e740a96e3058ec501
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/4890980976fc467ce880785e740a96e3058ec501
  Author: Jana Iyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Revert "Replace uses of the word crypto with cryptographic"

This reverts commit 6081b18b985c9cd6617720ac0918b30b54a9b88e.


  Commit: c68d4c3f87b50ebaa73b57d250d9613add47ad4d
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c68d4c3f87b50ebaa73b57d250d9613add47ad4d
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Add definition of transport parameters to -transport


  Commit: df6be7dcdda7e4f3dcf7e23f517df1c0c28f479d
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/df6be7dcdda7e4f3dcf7e23f517df1c0c28f479d
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Define the extension in -tls


  Commit: 54b4a61e0d1922edbc730f841a9f2ba346b8eaa7
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/54b4a61e0d1922edbc730f841a9f2ba346b8eaa7
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Add a stub iana section, fix dead references


  Commit: 58b44bf9b5e15c529161c4d8c1888b4e7b6fd677
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/58b44bf9b5e15c529161c4d8c1888b4e7b6fd677
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Remove COPT, add rule about unknown extensions


  Commit: 69682c831f4bd2a0be0d05fd4d055a358c89b2f3
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/69682c831f4bd2a0be0d05fd4d055a358c89b2f3
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Reference WINDOW_UPDATE properly


  Commit: c6f4388dc58e2a76a6470b0413c7847254076972
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c6f4388dc58e2a76a6470b0413c7847254076972
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Remove extra sentence on ignoring unknown parameters


  Commit: 4e553f5b886194f38e891ed417e23010505170d5
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/4e553f5b886194f38e891ed417e23010505170d5
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  editorial


  Commit: c003df817b99fe07e586dc6cac34a389e26bc978
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  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Correct reference


  Commit: ff697d3b351b7d29ffcd80cc1b65612474e87df3
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/ff697d3b351b7d29ffcd80cc1b65612474e87df3
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Move crypto requirements to head of section


  Commit: 0a927e4af2bfb104e196f8b3d80ea53158997c50
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/0a927e4af2bfb104e196f8b3d80ea53158997c50
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Wrap note


  Commit: b251df5185cdd6bebcd98c623c8af7cc562abf7d
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  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Remove QUIC-Crypto reference


  Commit: 64e9772ff2e1caf5ba501ff22ec56b842276c4ce
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/64e9772ff2e1caf5ba501ff22ec56b842276c4ce
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Transport parameter are available when the handshake completes


  Commit: 081ef5e884f5f8afac230b0a6595a62cea1ff90f
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/081ef5e884f5f8afac230b0a6595a62cea1ff90f
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Simplify the section on new parameters


  Commit: e5d5bf4bbc14b7e8113c8bebe52bb70ef06c57ec
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/e5d5bf4bbc14b7e8113c8bebe52bb70ef06c57ec
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Add IANA considerations


  Commit: 665a59a1f7bb820ff747181ce0473e6a20c9e61d
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/665a59a1f7bb820ff747181ce0473e6a20c9e61d
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Add transport parameters to the handshake interface in TLS


  Commit: 895a68e5a070fc3ab0812c6d600c2dfab3671805
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/895a68e5a070fc3ab0812c6d600c2dfab3671805
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Fix formatting


  Commit: 06a89351bc04ea4a3423fddbba3a46caa6ff33d5
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  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Proofread version negotiation and correct errors


  Commit: 10be7da7a955c036fda774ac50c5d8b9166cb511
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  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Use hex, add initial registry contents


  Commit: e671b0d7151c8385413127fae597dc2e34c64fcf
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/e671b0d7151c8385413127fae597dc2e34c64fcf
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Transport parameters during 0-RTT are either remembered or defaults

This changes the definition for transport parameters from "MUST remember"
as I originally wrote up, to the frankly insane consensus position from
the Tokyo interim.

Closes #126


  Commit: bb4f04d7b0e34d8dbf19efad54be5a530b9f5faa
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/bb4f04d7b0e34d8dbf19efad54be5a530b9f5faa
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Fix long line


  Commit: 8922744059e9ec82ea39bdc30cc1cf970fd93f0b
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/8922744059e9ec82ea39bdc30cc1cf970fd93f0b
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Rename transport parameters, closes #300


  Commit: 8e5a5385d26c7c1c997778e7e45abaa159c91e3e
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/8e5a5385d26c7c1c997778e7e45abaa159c91e3e
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Cryptographic handshake, blah, blah


  Commit: 0fada3c9e3445b83e7bbfdd39481e5c8a16a03c7
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/0fada3c9e3445b83e7bbfdd39481e5c8a16a03c7
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Jana's review comments


  Commit: 686aad7bb2e2ecc26125dd23e864e9eb83683567
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/686aad7bb2e2ecc26125dd23e864e9eb83683567
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Correct line length


  Commit: 6251ab1170c23f447b04967787b571aaa6089dfa
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/6251ab1170c23f447b04967787b571aaa6089dfa
  Author: ianswett <ianswett@users.noreply.github.com>
  Date:   2017-02-21 (Tue, 21 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md

  Log Message:
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  Fix recovery formatting (#313)

* Replace uses of encrypted with protected.
* Constistenly use * instead of x everywhere for multiplication
* Remove trailing ;
* Convert the constants and variables into Kramdown definition lists.

* Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md

* Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md

Fix an overly long line.


  Commit: 1ffe4e9a397d28d03102a32d665e10a3f30d988e
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/1ffe4e9a397d28d03102a32d665e10a3f30d988e
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-22 (Wed, 22 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Fix case


  Commit: 8ec5114e935951f9eaaae934a5213d459aacf67f
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/8ec5114e935951f9eaaae934a5213d459aacf67f
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-22 (Wed, 22 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
  -----------
  Merge pull request #122 from quicwg/transport_parameters_mt

Define transport parameters


  Commit: 994d61d0c3c1316a57054204187162c714592222
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/994d61d0c3c1316a57054204187162c714592222
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-22 (Wed, 22 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M Makefile
    M circle.yml
    M draft-ietf-quic-http.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Merge branch 'master' into grease_version_negotiation


Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/7bcf44a41979...994d61d0c3c1
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994d61d  Merge branch 'master' into grease_version_negotiation


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Reopened #316.

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OK, not a noop, but behaving strangely.

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<p>OK, not a noop, but behaving strangely.</p>

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  Branch: refs/heads/grease_version_negotiation
  Home:   https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts
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  Commit: 00cf952634a78e2f565bff71ba0e6e0746e5d5c6
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  Add reference to version validation section


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This was addressed in #283.

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FWIW, we could allow the limit to wrap, but that adds complications and it would be a rarely used feature.

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<p>FWIW, we could allow the limit to wrap, but that adds complications and it would be a rarely used feature.</p>

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These references are unused.
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This reference is unused.
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<p>This reference is unused.</p>

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This reference is unused.
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-- Commit Summary --

  * http-unused-reference

-- File Changes --

    M draft-ietf-quic-http.md (15)

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<p>This reference is unused.</p>

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  Branch: refs/heads/master
  Home:   https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts
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      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/a60df37885a7c52c558bc67d6cd21c14dba96a8b
  Author: Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de>
  Date:   2017-02-22 (Wed, 22 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  transport-unused-references

This reference is unused.


  Commit: 51e2bbdb204771009290f835717f20f183df907a
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/51e2bbdb204771009290f835717f20f183df907a
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-22 (Wed, 22 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #332 from reschke/patch-2

transport-unused-references


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> @@ -73,9 +73,11 @@ informative:
     title: "Structured Streams: A New Transport Abstraction"
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-    date: 2007-08
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The paper contains a date of August 2007.  Where did you find the October date?

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/333#discussion_r102403501">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -73,9 +73,11 @@ informative:
     title: &quot;Structured Streams: A New Transport Abstraction&quot;
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<p>The paper contains a date of August 2007.  Where did you find the October date?</p>

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> @@ -73,9 +73,11 @@ informative:
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over here: http://www.sigcomm.org/node/2648 - I guess August was the conference date, and October was the publication date.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/333#discussion_r102404475">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -73,9 +73,11 @@ informative:
     title: &quot;Structured Streams: A New Transport Abstraction&quot;
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-    date: 2007-08
+    date: 2007-10
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<p>over here: <a href="http://www.sigcomm.org/node/2648">http://www.sigcomm.org/node/2648</a> - I guess August was the conference date, and October was the publication date.</p>

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> @@ -73,9 +73,11 @@ informative:
     title: "Structured Streams: A New Transport Abstraction"
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-    date: 2007-08
+    date: 2007-10

xml2rfc should be able to simply cite this paper by its DOI; see https://www.rfc-editor.org/pipermail/rfc-interest/2016-December/009805.html. (But I have no idea how to do this from kramdown.)

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/333#discussion_r102423710">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -73,9 +73,11 @@ informative:
     title: &quot;Structured Streams: A New Transport Abstraction&quot;
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-    date: 2007-08
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<p>xml2rfc should be able to simply cite this paper by its DOI; see <a href="https://www.rfc-editor.org/pipermail/rfc-interest/2016-December/009805.html">https://www.rfc-editor.org/pipermail/rfc-interest/2016-December/009805.html</a>. (But I have no idea how to do this from kramdown.)</p>

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> @@ -73,9 +73,11 @@ informative:
     title: "Structured Streams: A New Transport Abstraction"
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+    date: 2007-10

That would give you: https://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org/public/rfc/bibxml-doi/reference.DOI.10.1145/1282427.1282421.xml?anchor=SST

~~~
<reference anchor='SST' >
  <front>
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    <author initials="B." surname="Ford" fullname="Bryan Ford">
      <organization></organization>
    </author>
    <date year="2007" month="October"/>
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  <seriesInfo name="ACM SIGCOMM Computer Communication Review" value="Vol. 37, pp. 361"/>
  <seriesInfo name="DOI" value="10.1145/1282427.1282421"/>
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...which is cool, but, for instance, doesn't have the direct link to the actual paper.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/333#discussion_r102434343">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -73,9 +73,11 @@ informative:
     title: &quot;Structured Streams: A New Transport Abstraction&quot;
     author:
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-    date: 2007-08
+    date: 2007-10
</pre>
<p>That would give you: <a href="https://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org/public/rfc/bibxml-doi/reference.DOI.10.1145/1282427.1282421.xml?anchor=SST">https://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org/public/rfc/bibxml-doi/reference.DOI.10.1145/1282427.1282421.xml?anchor=SST</a></p>
<pre><code>&lt;reference anchor='SST' &gt;
  &lt;front&gt;
    &lt;title&gt;Structured streams&lt;/title&gt;
    &lt;author initials="B." surname="Ford" fullname="Bryan Ford"&gt;
      &lt;organization&gt;&lt;/organization&gt;
    &lt;/author&gt;
    &lt;date year="2007" month="October"/&gt;
  &lt;/front&gt;
  &lt;seriesInfo name="ACM SIGCOMM Computer Communication Review" value="Vol. 37, pp. 361"/&gt;
  &lt;seriesInfo name="DOI" value="10.1145/1282427.1282421"/&gt;
&lt;/reference&gt;
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I'd rather keep the informative references.

> @@ -59,12 +44,7 @@ normative:
 
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-  RFC3782:

Correct, but these are all relevant informative references, so I'd rather keep them.  The intent is to reference them before the next version.

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<p>I'd rather keep the informative references.</p><hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/331#discussion_r102445999">draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -59,12 +44,7 @@ normative:
 
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<p>Correct, but these are all relevant informative references, so I'd rather keep them.  The intent is to reference them before the next version.</p>

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> @@ -59,12 +44,7 @@ normative:
 
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In which case you're supposed to mention them somewhere in the text (otherwise idnits will give you warnings).

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/331#discussion_r102447483">draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md</a>:</p>
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> @@ -59,12 +44,7 @@ normative:
 
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Good to know, in that case, can you add a TODO in the congestion control section that needs to be written to ensure I mention them there.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/331#discussion_r102476713">draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md</a>:</p>
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<p>Good to know, in that case, can you add a TODO in the congestion control section that needs to be written to ensure I mention them there.</p>

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> @@ -59,12 +44,7 @@ normative:
 
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You could even resolve the IDNits issue by mentioning them in the TODO.  :-)

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/331#discussion_r102537181">draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md</a>:</p>
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> @@ -73,9 +73,11 @@ informative:
     title: "Structured Streams: A New Transport Abstraction"
     author:
       - ins: B. Ford
-    date: 2007-08
+    date: 2007-10

Looking at the kramdown-rfc2629 code, it doesn't look like it yet supports the bibxml7 directory.  Here are the currently-supported references:

~~~
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        "CCITT" => "bibxml2",
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        "OASIS" => "bibxml2",
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<p><b>@MikeBishop</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/333#discussion_r102538756">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -73,9 +73,11 @@ informative:
     title: &quot;Structured Streams: A New Transport Abstraction&quot;
     author:
       - ins: B. Ford
-    date: 2007-08
+    date: 2007-10
</pre>
<p>Looking at the kramdown-rfc2629 code, it doesn't look like it yet supports the bibxml7 directory.  Here are the currently-supported references:</p>
<pre><code>        "RFC" =&gt; "bibxml", "I-D" =&gt; "bibxml3", "W3C" =&gt; "bibxml4", "3GPP" =&gt; "bibxml5",
        "ANSI" =&gt; "bibxml2",
        "CCITT" =&gt; "bibxml2",
        "FIPS" =&gt; "bibxml2",
        "IANA" =&gt; "bibxml2",
        "IEEE" =&gt; "bibxml2",
        "ISO" =&gt; "bibxml2",
        "ITU" =&gt; "bibxml2",
        "NIST" =&gt; "bibxml2",
        "OASIS" =&gt; "bibxml2",
        "PKCS" =&gt; "bibxml2",
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It's a good reason for a host to send a GOAWAY and spin up a new connection, though.  The problem is going to be how much margin you give yourself.  The closer you come, the more risk you run that the last streams you allow through will collectively need to use all the space remaining in your WINDOW_UPDATE value range.  Having to RST a nearly-complete download because you can't send the necessary WINDOW_UPDATE frame seems like an unfortunate corner to be able to back yourself into, even if it's rare.

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ion, though.  The problem is going to be how much margin you give yourself.=
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w through will collectively need to use all the space remaining in your WIN=
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ou can't send the necessary WINDOW_UPDATE frame seems like an unfortunate c=
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> @@ -59,12 +44,7 @@ normative:
 
 informative:
 
-  RFC3782:

That was sort of my hope :)

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/331#discussion_r102567091">draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -59,12 +44,7 @@ normative:
 
 informative:
 
-  RFC3782:
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<p>That was sort of my hope :)</p>

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can this be closed because of #66 

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Merged #334.

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  Branch: refs/heads/httpq
  Home:   https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts
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  Move length-determining fields to the start of STREAM and ACK


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  Date:   2017-02-10 (Fri, 10 Feb 2017)

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  Stream 1 counts toward MSPC


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  Date:   2017-02-10 (Fri, 10 Feb 2017)

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  Random initial packet number


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  Date:   2017-02-10 (Fri, 10 Feb 2017)

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  Rewrite text on packet numbers


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  Ian had some comments


  Commit: 11983677875c23cb1d6f54844acdf6c6a7311b9f
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  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-14 (Tue, 14 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Refine retransmission rules


  Commit: c5d53f595e99ab5eeffd86e6aa1a5f574f5215a6
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c5d53f595e99ab5eeffd86e6aa1a5f574f5215a6
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-14 (Tue, 14 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Redefine the calculation for packet number size in terms of the range of outstanding numbers, not the count


  Commit: ef880125c9e92ac183231887cda9256dbbbb6f57
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/ef880125c9e92ac183231887cda9256dbbbb6f57
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-14 (Tue, 14 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Update circle.yml to template


  Commit: f83842ee87b72077aa2175c06ab89558464d07c3
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/f83842ee87b72077aa2175c06ab89558464d07c3
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-14 (Tue, 14 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Integrity protection for the header


  Commit: d9d21223b48c3850fd750f45ae91f0bc7bb42315
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  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-14 (Tue, 14 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Add a section on prioritization


  Commit: 23545b32c375e94e00f3c888e665db0023e28ad6
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/23545b32c375e94e00f3c888e665db0023e28ad6
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-14 (Tue, 14 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Give figures numbers, correct PRIORITY caption (#301)


  Commit: 8157c3f99d63d4a82b434b0389ed718aa7354aa1
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  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-15 (Wed, 15 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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    M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md
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  Log Message:
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  Police the creation of long lines


  Commit: 7b962e8d7e847ab15583cda18495e0b2d09d1c4c
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/7b962e8d7e847ab15583cda18495e0b2d09d1c4c
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-15 (Wed, 15 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

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  Add a check for excessive line length in figures


  Commit: 49e0ca0c0a5d2bf72f4524e23f82b249bdfc3228
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/49e0ca0c0a5d2bf72f4524e23f82b249bdfc3228
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-15 (Wed, 15 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Updated information in ACK follows rules defined for the frame


  Commit: 647c11cbe1b41182633f1440dcc49ac2bcfc172a
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/647c11cbe1b41182633f1440dcc49ac2bcfc172a
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-15 (Wed, 15 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Use the word "acknowledge" in full when used in prose.


  Commit: 4d31689132e859a8d15b7e39a1462c73401f2824
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  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-15 (Wed, 15 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Nits, thanks Mike


  Commit: 31b92d296b28aa45506acdb223c7d9e7dbbc8c32
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  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-15 (Wed, 15 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Making more extensive changes


  Commit: de556919e7bc669f28f2d5e0f6a5c16629fbf5f3
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/de556919e7bc669f28f2d5e0f6a5c16629fbf5f3
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-15 (Wed, 15 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Fix line lengths


  Commit: 6c23d06991834e22ce061ce479f1b8d0a8ae370e
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  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-15 (Wed, 15 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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    M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md
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  Log Message:
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  Sean isn't a double-editor


  Commit: 7197aff9853d2664987b2bf26b9aa03efce6b334
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/7197aff9853d2664987b2bf26b9aa03efce6b334
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-16 (Thu, 16 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Integrate Ian's suggested text


  Commit: 51d962b999179193ec0530dd56c8fe61948d4c2d
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/51d962b999179193ec0530dd56c8fe61948d4c2d
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-16 (Thu, 16 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Using Ian's suggested names


  Commit: 5cf69e80781d829df2cdabe9c31119ce72c0c0aa
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  Author: janaiyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-16 (Thu, 16 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Merge pull request #277 from quicwg/move_frame_lengths

Move length-determining fields to the start of STREAM and ACK


  Commit: d03bd182225dba9c1bf8a5ca49d5117e2e2fddbf
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/d03bd182225dba9c1bf8a5ca49d5117e2e2fddbf
  Author: janaiyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-16 (Thu, 16 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Merge pull request #282 from quicwg/MSPC_zero

Stream 1 counts toward MSPC


  Commit: 56b5a417e04955c7809b61f95ec865627e7fe4c6
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  Author: janaiyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-16 (Thu, 16 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #283 from quicwg/packet0number

Random initial packet number


  Commit: da282a730da8a2396d2a5a540fbf783377f4acb6
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/da282a730da8a2396d2a5a540fbf783377f4acb6
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Merge pull request #304 from quicwg/figure_line_length

Add a check for excessive line length in figures


  Commit: 5d8cd38aed89ead66c990519ebe041d73886a3c0
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/5d8cd38aed89ead66c990519ebe041d73886a3c0
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Shorten the abstract

The abstract is a direct copy of the intro.  We don't need to repeat ourselves.
This just keeps the important information.


  Commit: 752537cc977b99a6c1aee069ec6d71e77dd0e6ae
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/752537cc977b99a6c1aee069ec6d71e77dd0e6ae
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Small digestible chunks


  Commit: 996f3aa9632f39a1394db70a5b2fcd1ffa277891
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/996f3aa9632f39a1394db70a5b2fcd1ffa277891
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Take 2


  Commit: 71d0d5b613570339bf5a2cf22ff26edb48e068e0
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  Author: janaiyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-16 (Thu, 16 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Merge pull request #288 from quicwg/cleanup_packet_number

Cleanup packet number text


  Commit: 983c2053430f5374119ff44becb64416075a162e
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/983c2053430f5374119ff44becb64416075a162e
  Author: janaiyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-16 (Thu, 16 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Merge pull request #298 from quicwg/frames_arent_retransmitted

Refine retransmission rules


  Commit: 8817ef0f3e01387437dc5d56b05b7b0dcba6b074
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/8817ef0f3e01387437dc5d56b05b7b0dcba6b074
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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    M draft-ietf-quic-http.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md
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  Log Message:
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  Merge branch 'master' into redefine_outstanding


  Commit: d8911972c6bc142eed1bb7f789c46f74d53e0645
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/d8911972c6bc142eed1bb7f789c46f74d53e0645
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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    M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md
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  Log Message:
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  Merge branch 'master' into transport_priority


  Commit: 3764464f8afcda0d85501e6b9ed8f844d48ed5ec
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/3764464f8afcda0d85501e6b9ed8f844d48ed5ec
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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    M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md
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  Log Message:
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  Merge branch 'master' into ack_in_full


  Commit: 85bee5baa76f4dd37711cd7048f6dcc79d92cfce
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  Author: seanturner <sean@sn3rd.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Adding an informative reference for MPTCP.


  Commit: e1002e53187065b801266cd83c86f0ce16a30b6b
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  Author: ianswett <ianswett@users.noreply.github.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Add handshake retransmissions (#266)

* Add handshake retransmissions

* Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md

* Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md

* Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md

Add some text on handshake state transitions cancelling handshake frames.

* Fix Ian's trailing whitespace

* Reformat example


  Commit: f00fe5feca61ebad478284d154b1a13e4daf6da1
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  Author: seanturner <sean@sn3rd.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Adding an informative reference for randomness requirements.


  Commit: 702026848298cf1dbf995db4718f4fd8ba825359
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/702026848298cf1dbf995db4718f4fd8ba825359
  Author: seanturner <sean@sn3rd.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Fixing spaces; hopefully this will fix the Travis issue as well.


  Commit: 9bf13459b96927cfd199d78b4add0311b11c9856
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/9bf13459b96927cfd199d78b4add0311b11c9856
  Author: Jana Iyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Changing the phrase crypto cover


  Commit: 6081b18b985c9cd6617720ac0918b30b54a9b88e
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/6081b18b985c9cd6617720ac0918b30b54a9b88e
  Author: Jana Iyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Replace uses of the word crypto with cryptographic


  Commit: 8d96b05969a1b29fdac7929114719d1e577d1364
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  Author: Jana Iyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Revert "Replace uses of the word crypto with cryptographic"

This reverts commit 6081b18b985c9cd6617720ac0918b30b54a9b88e.


  Commit: 85f8cbf8b974c541fc060a62c4b159933608e833
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  Author: Jana Iyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Revert "Changing the phrase crypto cover"

This reverts commit 9bf13459b96927cfd199d78b4add0311b11c9856.


  Commit: bf0e4e97fd7e9451dea2cc974342b376aba32ec3
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  Author: janaiyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Merge pull request #306 from quicwg/ack_in_full

Use the word "acknowledge" in full when used in prose


  Commit: f3b01afe66a32eaef5253a9204b6f009a42ad521
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  Author: janaiyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Merge pull request #315 from quicwg/quic_trans-random-ref

Adding an informative reference for randomness requirements.


  Commit: f604b5451defd91a9dc2ca3bf8766413d9d29b4a
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  Author: janaiyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Merge pull request #312 from quicwg/quic_trans-mptcp-ref

Adding an informative reference for MPTCP.


  Commit: a7a7989a5cc0d6a3f1561817814f1cdebe0e332a
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  Author: janaiyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Merge pull request #302 from quicwg/aad_header

Integrity protection for the header


  Commit: eaa65579cae68b11cc13991f4e7eb4ece3c1dbdf
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  Author: janaiyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Merge pull request #303 from quicwg/transport_priority

Add a section on stream prioritization


  Commit: 6123667c0c3cb42d07a5703b3a24ec241ebd67de
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  Author: janaiyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Merge pull request #299 from quicwg/redefine_outstanding

Redefine outstanding


  Commit: dc4d44835aa65c6b6af34edc3dd29765a6f0dce4
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  Author: janaiyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Merge pull request #92 from quicwg/short_abstract

Short abstract


  Commit: c2c90d471008b5e74c7dc8cec792bab56d5b8eca
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  Author: seanturner <sean@sn3rd.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Adding a reference for ASCII.


  Commit: 08c8f41caae3981786277e89cd0b096ae3d1cfe8
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  Author: janaiyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Merge pull request #318 from quicwg/quic_trans-ascii-ref

Adding a reference for ASCII


  Commit: bf49e20db78994776106b9ec8c2376f4e60cea47
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  Author: seanturner <sean@sn3rd.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Some minor editorial tweaks for s6.2.1.2.


  Commit: 044edc1761230df967aae7630f49cfa81891cac2
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  Author: seanturner <sean@sn3rd.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Some minor editorial tweaks for s6.1.


  Commit: e613dbfa4c4c40caf143e1a84fd7b5627a0ae96c
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/e613dbfa4c4c40caf143e1a84fd7b5627a0ae96c
  Author: seanturner <sean@sn3rd.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Adding a ')' in s5.2.


  Commit: d9d119afaf1b8ca21fb16134dff0abf4ffc615cc
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  Author: janaiyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #320 from quicwg/quic_trans-s6.2.1.2

Some minor editorial tweaks for s6.2.1.2.


  Commit: 567ea55258b3329ad315104c63befd35e132f8bc
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/567ea55258b3329ad315104c63befd35e132f8bc
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-18 (Sat, 18 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #322 from quicwg/quic_trans-s5.2-editorial

Adding a ')' in s5.2.


  Commit: ee98dee0f3043b78de22572638e75b67a4ea60e6
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/ee98dee0f3043b78de22572638e75b67a4ea60e6
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-18 (Sat, 18 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #321 from quicwg/quic_trans-s6.1-editorial

Some minor editorial tweaks for s6.1.


  Commit: 6baf44caae3db986e00e4b4fa40edfc57d55b05c
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/6baf44caae3db986e00e4b4fa40edfc57d55b05c
  Author: seanturner <sean@sn3rd.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Changing reference.


  Commit: 7c869ee495670dc67b285163579176be35b71a10
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/7c869ee495670dc67b285163579176be35b71a10
  Author: janaiyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #324 from quicwg/quic_trans-s7-ref

Changing reference


  Commit: 05e848389bfc5e54981733b77ce91d1b17063fd8
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/05e848389bfc5e54981733b77ce91d1b17063fd8
  Author: Jana Iyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Removes use of the word crypto


  Commit: 4890980976fc467ce880785e740a96e3058ec501
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/4890980976fc467ce880785e740a96e3058ec501
  Author: Jana Iyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Revert "Replace uses of the word crypto with cryptographic"

This reverts commit 6081b18b985c9cd6617720ac0918b30b54a9b88e.


  Commit: c68d4c3f87b50ebaa73b57d250d9613add47ad4d
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c68d4c3f87b50ebaa73b57d250d9613add47ad4d
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Add definition of transport parameters to -transport


  Commit: df6be7dcdda7e4f3dcf7e23f517df1c0c28f479d
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/df6be7dcdda7e4f3dcf7e23f517df1c0c28f479d
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Define the extension in -tls


  Commit: 54b4a61e0d1922edbc730f841a9f2ba346b8eaa7
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/54b4a61e0d1922edbc730f841a9f2ba346b8eaa7
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Add a stub iana section, fix dead references


  Commit: 58b44bf9b5e15c529161c4d8c1888b4e7b6fd677
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/58b44bf9b5e15c529161c4d8c1888b4e7b6fd677
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Remove COPT, add rule about unknown extensions


  Commit: 69682c831f4bd2a0be0d05fd4d055a358c89b2f3
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/69682c831f4bd2a0be0d05fd4d055a358c89b2f3
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Reference WINDOW_UPDATE properly


  Commit: c6f4388dc58e2a76a6470b0413c7847254076972
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c6f4388dc58e2a76a6470b0413c7847254076972
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Remove extra sentence on ignoring unknown parameters


  Commit: 4e553f5b886194f38e891ed417e23010505170d5
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/4e553f5b886194f38e891ed417e23010505170d5
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  editorial


  Commit: c003df817b99fe07e586dc6cac34a389e26bc978
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c003df817b99fe07e586dc6cac34a389e26bc978
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Correct reference


  Commit: ff697d3b351b7d29ffcd80cc1b65612474e87df3
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/ff697d3b351b7d29ffcd80cc1b65612474e87df3
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Move crypto requirements to head of section


  Commit: 0a927e4af2bfb104e196f8b3d80ea53158997c50
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/0a927e4af2bfb104e196f8b3d80ea53158997c50
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md

  Log Message:
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  Wrap note


  Commit: b251df5185cdd6bebcd98c623c8af7cc562abf7d
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/b251df5185cdd6bebcd98c623c8af7cc562abf7d
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Remove QUIC-Crypto reference


  Commit: 64e9772ff2e1caf5ba501ff22ec56b842276c4ce
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/64e9772ff2e1caf5ba501ff22ec56b842276c4ce
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Transport parameter are available when the handshake completes


  Commit: 081ef5e884f5f8afac230b0a6595a62cea1ff90f
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/081ef5e884f5f8afac230b0a6595a62cea1ff90f
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Simplify the section on new parameters


  Commit: e5d5bf4bbc14b7e8113c8bebe52bb70ef06c57ec
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/e5d5bf4bbc14b7e8113c8bebe52bb70ef06c57ec
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Add IANA considerations


  Commit: 665a59a1f7bb820ff747181ce0473e6a20c9e61d
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/665a59a1f7bb820ff747181ce0473e6a20c9e61d
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md

  Log Message:
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  Add transport parameters to the handshake interface in TLS


  Commit: 895a68e5a070fc3ab0812c6d600c2dfab3671805
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/895a68e5a070fc3ab0812c6d600c2dfab3671805
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Fix formatting


  Commit: 06a89351bc04ea4a3423fddbba3a46caa6ff33d5
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/06a89351bc04ea4a3423fddbba3a46caa6ff33d5
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Proofread version negotiation and correct errors


  Commit: 10be7da7a955c036fda774ac50c5d8b9166cb511
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/10be7da7a955c036fda774ac50c5d8b9166cb511
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Use hex, add initial registry contents


  Commit: e671b0d7151c8385413127fae597dc2e34c64fcf
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/e671b0d7151c8385413127fae597dc2e34c64fcf
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Transport parameters during 0-RTT are either remembered or defaults

This changes the definition for transport parameters from "MUST remember"
as I originally wrote up, to the frankly insane consensus position from
the Tokyo interim.

Closes #126


  Commit: bb4f04d7b0e34d8dbf19efad54be5a530b9f5faa
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/bb4f04d7b0e34d8dbf19efad54be5a530b9f5faa
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Fix long line


  Commit: 8922744059e9ec82ea39bdc30cc1cf970fd93f0b
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/8922744059e9ec82ea39bdc30cc1cf970fd93f0b
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Rename transport parameters, closes #300


  Commit: 8e5a5385d26c7c1c997778e7e45abaa159c91e3e
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/8e5a5385d26c7c1c997778e7e45abaa159c91e3e
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Cryptographic handshake, blah, blah


  Commit: 0fada3c9e3445b83e7bbfdd39481e5c8a16a03c7
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/0fada3c9e3445b83e7bbfdd39481e5c8a16a03c7
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Jana's review comments


  Commit: 686aad7bb2e2ecc26125dd23e864e9eb83683567
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/686aad7bb2e2ecc26125dd23e864e9eb83683567
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Correct line length


  Commit: 6251ab1170c23f447b04967787b571aaa6089dfa
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/6251ab1170c23f447b04967787b571aaa6089dfa
  Author: ianswett <ianswett@users.noreply.github.com>
  Date:   2017-02-21 (Tue, 21 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md

  Log Message:
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  Fix recovery formatting (#313)

* Replace uses of encrypted with protected.
* Constistenly use * instead of x everywhere for multiplication
* Remove trailing ;
* Convert the constants and variables into Kramdown definition lists.

* Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md

* Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md

Fix an overly long line.


  Commit: 1ffe4e9a397d28d03102a32d665e10a3f30d988e
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/1ffe4e9a397d28d03102a32d665e10a3f30d988e
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-22 (Wed, 22 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Fix case


  Commit: 8ec5114e935951f9eaaae934a5213d459aacf67f
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/8ec5114e935951f9eaaae934a5213d459aacf67f
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-22 (Wed, 22 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #122 from quicwg/transport_parameters_mt

Define transport parameters


  Commit: c7128b858ec518e1b39e03ba8b56fbd34def11b0
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c7128b858ec518e1b39e03ba8b56fbd34def11b0
  Author: Jana Iyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-21 (Tue, 21 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Missing ones.


  Commit: 0d1e8573b7b8901513f04487176885324d7b3506
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/0d1e8573b7b8901513f04487176885324d7b3506
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-22 (Wed, 22 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #316 from quicwg/crypto

Removes use of the word crypto


  Commit: a60df37885a7c52c558bc67d6cd21c14dba96a8b
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/a60df37885a7c52c558bc67d6cd21c14dba96a8b
  Author: Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de>
  Date:   2017-02-22 (Wed, 22 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  transport-unused-references

This reference is unused.


  Commit: 51e2bbdb204771009290f835717f20f183df907a
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/51e2bbdb204771009290f835717f20f183df907a
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-22 (Wed, 22 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #332 from reschke/patch-2

transport-unused-references


  Commit: 07591c76147a6d23aae7cac3527bc366fab136a9
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/07591c76147a6d23aae7cac3527bc366fab136a9
  Author: Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de>
  Date:   2017-02-22 (Wed, 22 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-http.md

  Log Message:
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  http-unused-reference

This reference is unused.


  Commit: a2d2a9b49e921862b4f976d4089f2a197f540cd4
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/a2d2a9b49e921862b4f976d4089f2a197f540cd4
  Author: Mike Bishop <michbish@microsoft.com>
  Date:   2017-02-22 (Wed, 22 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M Makefile
    M circle.yml
    M draft-ietf-quic-http.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/master' into httpq


  Commit: 5e3a2804ead02035006f0373a77cc52e00c7442e
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/5e3a2804ead02035006f0373a77cc52e00c7442e
  Author: Mike Bishop <michbish@microsoft.com>
  Date:   2017-02-22 (Wed, 22 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-http.md

  Log Message:
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  Merge branch 'httpq' of https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts into httpq


Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/0a74e7e5daae...5e3a2804ead0
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  Branch: refs/heads/reset_close
  Home:   https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts
  Commit: e9a8c0c6de0aae7490ad97264ba5a085e745ec44
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/e9a8c0c6de0aae7490ad97264ba5a085e745ec44
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-23 (Thu, 23 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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Discussion is ongoing, but I think that we have:

* data that has been received on streams that have terminated MUST NOT be discarded

* received data on streams that are open MUST NOT be discarded or maybe it SHOULD be discarded, I can't tell yet

* data that was sent but not acknowledged is now in an uncertain state, assume the worst (it might have been received by the other side, but it might have been lost too)

If we take @igorlord's position, then we have two different meanings depending on stream state: a closed stream MUST be treated like a FIN (deliver the bits), an open stream is implicitly reset.



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<p>Discussion is ongoing, but I think that we have:</p>
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This covers two things:

1. the general operation of Public Reset packets and their role in the protocol, including two separate admonishments not to use Public Reset unless you don't have connection state

2. how to generate errors for the connection and for streams

On the former, I want to add ekr's proposed public reset design in a separate PR.

On the latter, I've cribbed from HTTP/2 a little, but the advice here turns out to be subtly different.

Closes #289, #47.
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<p>This covers two things:</p>
<ol>
<li>
<p>the general operation of Public Reset packets and their role in the protocol, including two separate admonishments not to use Public Reset unless you don't have connection state</p>
</li>
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<p>how to generate errors for the connection and for streams</p>
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<p>On the former, I want to add ekr's proposed public reset design in a separate PR.</p>
<p>On the latter, I've cribbed from HTTP/2 a little, but the advice here turns out to be subtly different.</p>
<p>Closes <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/289" class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/289" data-id="206738085" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-permission-text="Issue title is private">#289</a>, <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/47" class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/47" data-id="192443444" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-permission-text="Issue title is private">#47</a>.</p>

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<h4>You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:</h4>
<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href='https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/335'>https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/335</a></p>

<h4>Commit Summary</h4>
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  <li>Add real text on error handling</li>
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<h4>File Changes</h4>
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    <strong>M</strong>
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MikeBishop commented on this pull request.

More special cases than I like, but a good direction.

> +An endpoint that chooses not to retransmit packets containing CONNECTION_CLOSE
+risks a peer missing the first such packet.  The only mechanism available to an
+endpoint that continues to receive data for a terminated connection is to send a
+Public Reset packet.
+
+
+## Stream Errors
+
+If the error affects a single stream, but otherwise leaves the connection in a
+recoverable state, the endpoint can sent a RST_STREAM frame
+({{frame-rst-stream}}) with an appropriate error code to terminate just the
+affected stream.
+
+An error on stream 1 MUST be handled as a connection error.  Stream 1 is
+critical to the functioning of the entire connection.  Furthermore, some
+application protocols place constraints on how streams are used that makes

SVA:  "constraints ... that make"

> +
+An endpoint that chooses not to retransmit packets containing CONNECTION_CLOSE
+risks a peer missing the first such packet.  The only mechanism available to an
+endpoint that continues to receive data for a terminated connection is to send a
+Public Reset packet.
+
+
+## Stream Errors
+
+If the error affects a single stream, but otherwise leaves the connection in a
+recoverable state, the endpoint can sent a RST_STREAM frame
+({{frame-rst-stream}}) with an appropriate error code to terminate just the
+affected stream.
+
+An error on stream 1 MUST be handled as a connection error.  Stream 1 is
+critical to the functioning of the entire connection.  Furthermore, some

Would it make sense to tease this apart and say that if Stream 1 is closed in any way, that's a connection error?  You don't necessarily need to special-case elevation of the error that impacted stream 1 to connection-level then, but it's still permitted.

> +
+
+## Stream Errors
+
+If the error affects a single stream, but otherwise leaves the connection in a
+recoverable state, the endpoint can sent a RST_STREAM frame
+({{frame-rst-stream}}) with an appropriate error code to terminate just the
+affected stream.
+
+An error on stream 1 MUST be handled as a connection error.  Stream 1 is
+critical to the functioning of the entire connection.  Furthermore, some
+application protocols place constraints on how streams are used that makes
+certain streams critical to the functioning of the protocol.  Termination of a
+critical stream could result in a fatal error in an application protocol.
+Errors in such critical streams MUST be changed into a error that closes the
+entire connection.

This shouldn't be a transport requirement.  If an application has such constraints, it needs to terminate the connection upon seeing the stream close.  Otherwise, the application needs an API to "bless" certain streams.  This parallels the above comment about stream 1 -- permit stream errors to be stream errors, but if you depend on a certain stream surviving and it doesn't, it's your job to kill the connection.

> @@ -2022,7 +2071,58 @@ send a WINDOW_UPDATE frame at least two roundtrips before it expects the sender
 to get blocked.
 
 
-# Error Codes {#error-handling}

You removed this anchor, which is referenced elsewhere in the text.

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<p><b>@MikeBishop</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

<p>More special cases than I like, but a good direction.</p><hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/335#discussion_r102612331">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +An endpoint that chooses not to retransmit packets containing CONNECTION_CLOSE
+risks a peer missing the first such packet.  The only mechanism available to an
+endpoint that continues to receive data for a terminated connection is to send a
+Public Reset packet.
+
+
+## Stream Errors
+
+If the error affects a single stream, but otherwise leaves the connection in a
+recoverable state, the endpoint can sent a RST_STREAM frame
+({{frame-rst-stream}}) with an appropriate error code to terminate just the
+affected stream.
+
+An error on stream 1 MUST be handled as a connection error.  Stream 1 is
+critical to the functioning of the entire connection.  Furthermore, some
+application protocols place constraints on how streams are used that makes
</pre>
<p>SVA:  "constraints ... that make"</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/335#discussion_r102612643">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +
+An endpoint that chooses not to retransmit packets containing CONNECTION_CLOSE
+risks a peer missing the first such packet.  The only mechanism available to an
+endpoint that continues to receive data for a terminated connection is to send a
+Public Reset packet.
+
+
+## Stream Errors
+
+If the error affects a single stream, but otherwise leaves the connection in a
+recoverable state, the endpoint can sent a RST_STREAM frame
+({{frame-rst-stream}}) with an appropriate error code to terminate just the
+affected stream.
+
+An error on stream 1 MUST be handled as a connection error.  Stream 1 is
+critical to the functioning of the entire connection.  Furthermore, some
</pre>
<p>Would it make sense to tease this apart and say that if Stream 1 is closed in any way, that's a connection error?  You don't necessarily need to special-case elevation of the error that impacted stream 1 to connection-level then, but it's still permitted.</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/335#discussion_r102612956">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +
+
+## Stream Errors
+
+If the error affects a single stream, but otherwise leaves the connection in a
+recoverable state, the endpoint can sent a RST_STREAM frame
+({{frame-rst-stream}}) with an appropriate error code to terminate just the
+affected stream.
+
+An error on stream 1 MUST be handled as a connection error.  Stream 1 is
+critical to the functioning of the entire connection.  Furthermore, some
+application protocols place constraints on how streams are used that makes
+certain streams critical to the functioning of the protocol.  Termination of a
+critical stream could result in a fatal error in an application protocol.
+Errors in such critical streams MUST be changed into a error that closes the
+entire connection.
</pre>
<p>This shouldn't be a transport requirement.  If an application has such constraints, it needs to terminate the connection upon seeing the stream close.  Otherwise, the application needs an API to "bless" certain streams.  This parallels the above comment about stream 1 -- permit stream errors to be stream errors, but if you depend on a certain stream surviving and it doesn't, it's your job to kill the connection.</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/335#discussion_r102613128">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -2022,7 +2071,58 @@ send a WINDOW_UPDATE frame at least two roundtrips before it expects the sender
 to get blocked.
 
 
-# Error Codes {#error-handling}
</pre>
<p>You removed this anchor, which is referenced elsewhere in the text.</p>

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> +
+
+## Stream Errors
+
+If the error affects a single stream, but otherwise leaves the connection in a
+recoverable state, the endpoint can sent a RST_STREAM frame
+({{frame-rst-stream}}) with an appropriate error code to terminate just the
+affected stream.
+
+An error on stream 1 MUST be handled as a connection error.  Stream 1 is
+critical to the functioning of the entire connection.  Furthermore, some
+application protocols place constraints on how streams are used that makes
+certain streams critical to the functioning of the protocol.  Termination of a
+critical stream could result in a fatal error in an application protocol.
+Errors in such critical streams MUST be changed into a error that closes the
+entire connection.

To this point, I thought I had text in HTTP saying that if the Connection Control stream closes, you MUST close the connection, but I don't see it in master.  Maybe it's buried in a PR?

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<p><b>@MikeBishop</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/335#discussion_r102613642">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +
+
+## Stream Errors
+
+If the error affects a single stream, but otherwise leaves the connection in a
+recoverable state, the endpoint can sent a RST_STREAM frame
+({{frame-rst-stream}}) with an appropriate error code to terminate just the
+affected stream.
+
+An error on stream 1 MUST be handled as a connection error.  Stream 1 is
+critical to the functioning of the entire connection.  Furthermore, some
+application protocols place constraints on how streams are used that makes
+certain streams critical to the functioning of the protocol.  Termination of a
+critical stream could result in a fatal error in an application protocol.
+Errors in such critical streams MUST be changed into a error that closes the
+entire connection.
</pre>
<p>To this point, I thought I had text in HTTP saying that if the Connection Control stream closes, you MUST close the connection, but I don't see it in master.  Maybe it's buried in a PR?</p>

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  Branch: refs/heads/wrapping_hpack
  Home:   https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts
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  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
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  PADDING is a single 0 octet


  Commit: b09b36b550910563b53e7d612d6349709c518ae9
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  Date:   2017-02-09 (Thu, 09 Feb 2017)

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  Cache pip and gem downloads


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  Fix whitespace


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  Fix the fix


  Commit: 0de60f8103d15ea08396491f97bc790e5e3693c0
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  Merge pull request #276 from quicwg/internal_padding

PADDING is a single 0 octet


  Commit: 8a2878adbee5fe51007d67af614bcf37bafd7d76
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  Author: Mike Bishop <michbish@microsoft.com>
  Date:   2017-02-22 (Wed, 22 Feb 2017)

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    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

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  Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/master' into wrapping_hpack


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  Branch: refs/heads/master
  Home:   https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts
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  Date:   2017-02-22 (Wed, 22 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-http.md

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ekr commented on this pull request.



> +state necessary to continue with a connection.  In this case, the endpoint will
+include the fields that prove that it originally participated in the connection
+(see {{public-reset-proof}} for details).
+
+Upon receipt of a Public Reset packet that contains a valid proof, an endpoint
+MUST tear down state associated with the connection.  The endpoint MUST then
+cease sending packets on the connection and SHOULD discard any subsequent
+packets that arrive.  A Public Reset that contains an invalid proof MUST be
+ignored.
+
+A Public Reset packet sent by an on-path intermediary will not - and cannot -
+include proof that the sender participated in the initial connection handshake.
+It is sent by a middlebox to notify an endpoint that the path is no longer
+functional.  Such a Public Reset does not include a Public Reset Proof, it
+includes only the connection ID, which provides an assurance that the middlebox
+received packets on the flow.

I think I would handle this with a structured proof instead. I.e.,

struct {
   ProofType type;
   opaque proof[len];
}

Then we can require the proof to contain the conn id or whatever. As I think I mentioned, proofs from non-participants should probably instead contain something derived from the packet, which includes a MAC and so is guaranteed to be high entropy.

Also, it's not clear to me we want to require conn ids to be high enough entropy to make receipt

> +MUST tear down state associated with the connection.  The endpoint MUST then
+cease sending packets on the connection and SHOULD discard any subsequent
+packets that arrive.  A Public Reset that contains an invalid proof MUST be
+ignored.
+
+A Public Reset packet sent by an on-path intermediary will not - and cannot -
+include proof that the sender participated in the initial connection handshake.
+It is sent by a middlebox to notify an endpoint that the path is no longer
+functional.  Such a Public Reset does not include a Public Reset Proof, it
+includes only the connection ID, which provides an assurance that the middlebox
+received packets on the flow.
+
+After receiving a Public Reset that omits the Public Reset Proof, an endpoint
+SHOULD stop sending on the path on which the Public Reset was received.  Packets
+that are received on the path MAY be discarded.  Without support for multipath,
+this means that the connection could become unusable.

s/could/will/ right?

I'm not sure getting clever here helps.

> +include proof that the sender participated in the initial connection handshake.
+It is sent by a middlebox to notify an endpoint that the path is no longer
+functional.  Such a Public Reset does not include a Public Reset Proof, it
+includes only the connection ID, which provides an assurance that the middlebox
+received packets on the flow.
+
+After receiving a Public Reset that omits the Public Reset Proof, an endpoint
+SHOULD stop sending on the path on which the Public Reset was received.  Packets
+that are received on the path MAY be discarded.  Without support for multipath,
+this means that the connection could become unusable.
+
+A middlebox might send a packet in an attempt to attack a connection.  If
+packets continue to arrive after a Public Reset, this could indicate an attack.
+Delays could mean that a few packets arrive after a Public Reset, but if this
+continues well beyond the observed bounds on jitter, an endpoint MAY consider
+the Public Reset to have been spurious.

I feel like more guidance may be needed here.

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<p><b>@ekr</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/335#discussion_r102619860">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +state necessary to continue with a connection.  In this case, the endpoint will
+include the fields that prove that it originally participated in the connection
+(see {{public-reset-proof}} for details).
+
+Upon receipt of a Public Reset packet that contains a valid proof, an endpoint
+MUST tear down state associated with the connection.  The endpoint MUST then
+cease sending packets on the connection and SHOULD discard any subsequent
+packets that arrive.  A Public Reset that contains an invalid proof MUST be
+ignored.
+
+A Public Reset packet sent by an on-path intermediary will not - and cannot -
+include proof that the sender participated in the initial connection handshake.
+It is sent by a middlebox to notify an endpoint that the path is no longer
+functional.  Such a Public Reset does not include a Public Reset Proof, it
+includes only the connection ID, which provides an assurance that the middlebox
+received packets on the flow.
</pre>
<p>I think I would handle this with a structured proof instead. I.e.,</p>
<p>struct {<br>
ProofType type;<br>
opaque proof[len];<br>
}</p>
<p>Then we can require the proof to contain the conn id or whatever. As I think I mentioned, proofs from non-participants should probably instead contain something derived from the packet, which includes a MAC and so is guaranteed to be high entropy.</p>
<p>Also, it's not clear to me we want to require conn ids to be high enough entropy to make receipt</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/335#discussion_r102620083">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +MUST tear down state associated with the connection.  The endpoint MUST then
+cease sending packets on the connection and SHOULD discard any subsequent
+packets that arrive.  A Public Reset that contains an invalid proof MUST be
+ignored.
+
+A Public Reset packet sent by an on-path intermediary will not - and cannot -
+include proof that the sender participated in the initial connection handshake.
+It is sent by a middlebox to notify an endpoint that the path is no longer
+functional.  Such a Public Reset does not include a Public Reset Proof, it
+includes only the connection ID, which provides an assurance that the middlebox
+received packets on the flow.
+
+After receiving a Public Reset that omits the Public Reset Proof, an endpoint
+SHOULD stop sending on the path on which the Public Reset was received.  Packets
+that are received on the path MAY be discarded.  Without support for multipath,
+this means that the connection could become unusable.
</pre>
<p>s/could/will/ right?</p>
<p>I'm not sure getting clever here helps.</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/335#discussion_r102620105">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +include proof that the sender participated in the initial connection handshake.
+It is sent by a middlebox to notify an endpoint that the path is no longer
+functional.  Such a Public Reset does not include a Public Reset Proof, it
+includes only the connection ID, which provides an assurance that the middlebox
+received packets on the flow.
+
+After receiving a Public Reset that omits the Public Reset Proof, an endpoint
+SHOULD stop sending on the path on which the Public Reset was received.  Packets
+that are received on the path MAY be discarded.  Without support for multipath,
+this means that the connection could become unusable.
+
+A middlebox might send a packet in an attempt to attack a connection.  If
+packets continue to arrive after a Public Reset, this could indicate an attack.
+Delays could mean that a few packets arrive after a Public Reset, but if this
+continues well beyond the observed bounds on jitter, an endpoint MAY consider
+the Public Reset to have been spurious.
</pre>
<p>I feel like more guidance may be needed here.</p>

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  Date:   2017-02-09 (Thu, 09 Feb 2017)

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  Date:   2017-02-09 (Thu, 09 Feb 2017)

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  Date:   2017-02-09 (Thu, 09 Feb 2017)

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  Date:   2017-02-09 (Thu, 09 Feb 2017)

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  Commit: ba4ae1a26c434332866b3adc4f06e3f42987d2ad
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  Date:   2017-02-10 (Fri, 10 Feb 2017)

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  Commit: c8972c657252968e17af09ccd1121c14b3290fb8
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  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-10 (Fri, 10 Feb 2017)

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  Commit: 467b6a417318d321666b3257d9448feb978e354c
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  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-10 (Fri, 10 Feb 2017)

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  Commit: 49c2f4a7e942daa238624fc5a64d925add22b535
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  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-13 (Mon, 13 Feb 2017)

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  Log Message:
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  Commit: 0de60f8103d15ea08396491f97bc790e5e3693c0
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  Date:   2017-02-13 (Mon, 13 Feb 2017)

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  Merge pull request #276 from quicwg/internal_padding

PADDING is a single 0 octet


  Commit: 11983677875c23cb1d6f54844acdf6c6a7311b9f
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  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-14 (Tue, 14 Feb 2017)

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  Commit: c5d53f595e99ab5eeffd86e6aa1a5f574f5215a6
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  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-14 (Tue, 14 Feb 2017)

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  Redefine the calculation for packet number size in terms of the range of outstanding numbers, not the count


  Commit: ef880125c9e92ac183231887cda9256dbbbb6f57
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  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-14 (Tue, 14 Feb 2017)

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  Update circle.yml to template


  Commit: f83842ee87b72077aa2175c06ab89558464d07c3
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  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-14 (Tue, 14 Feb 2017)

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  Commit: d9d21223b48c3850fd750f45ae91f0bc7bb42315
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  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-14 (Tue, 14 Feb 2017)

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  Add a section on prioritization


  Commit: 23545b32c375e94e00f3c888e665db0023e28ad6
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  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-14 (Tue, 14 Feb 2017)

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  Give figures numbers, correct PRIORITY caption (#301)


  Commit: 8157c3f99d63d4a82b434b0389ed718aa7354aa1
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  Date:   2017-02-15 (Wed, 15 Feb 2017)

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  Commit: 7b962e8d7e847ab15583cda18495e0b2d09d1c4c
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  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-15 (Wed, 15 Feb 2017)

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  Commit: 49e0ca0c0a5d2bf72f4524e23f82b249bdfc3228
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  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-15 (Wed, 15 Feb 2017)

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  Updated information in ACK follows rules defined for the frame


  Commit: 647c11cbe1b41182633f1440dcc49ac2bcfc172a
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  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-15 (Wed, 15 Feb 2017)

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  Use the word "acknowledge" in full when used in prose.


  Commit: 4d31689132e859a8d15b7e39a1462c73401f2824
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  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-15 (Wed, 15 Feb 2017)

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  Nits, thanks Mike


  Commit: 31b92d296b28aa45506acdb223c7d9e7dbbc8c32
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  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-15 (Wed, 15 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Making more extensive changes


  Commit: de556919e7bc669f28f2d5e0f6a5c16629fbf5f3
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  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-15 (Wed, 15 Feb 2017)

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  Fix line lengths


  Commit: 6c23d06991834e22ce061ce479f1b8d0a8ae370e
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  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-15 (Wed, 15 Feb 2017)

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  Sean isn't a double-editor


  Commit: 7197aff9853d2664987b2bf26b9aa03efce6b334
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  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-16 (Thu, 16 Feb 2017)

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  Integrate Ian's suggested text


  Commit: 51d962b999179193ec0530dd56c8fe61948d4c2d
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  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-16 (Thu, 16 Feb 2017)

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  Using Ian's suggested names


  Commit: 5cf69e80781d829df2cdabe9c31119ce72c0c0aa
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  Date:   2017-02-16 (Thu, 16 Feb 2017)

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  Merge pull request #277 from quicwg/move_frame_lengths

Move length-determining fields to the start of STREAM and ACK


  Commit: d03bd182225dba9c1bf8a5ca49d5117e2e2fddbf
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  Author: janaiyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-16 (Thu, 16 Feb 2017)

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  Merge pull request #282 from quicwg/MSPC_zero

Stream 1 counts toward MSPC


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  Author: janaiyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-16 (Thu, 16 Feb 2017)

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  Merge pull request #283 from quicwg/packet0number

Random initial packet number


  Commit: da282a730da8a2396d2a5a540fbf783377f4acb6
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  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

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  Merge pull request #304 from quicwg/figure_line_length

Add a check for excessive line length in figures


  Commit: 5d8cd38aed89ead66c990519ebe041d73886a3c0
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  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

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The abstract is a direct copy of the intro.  We don't need to repeat ourselves.
This just keeps the important information.


  Commit: 752537cc977b99a6c1aee069ec6d71e77dd0e6ae
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  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

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  Small digestible chunks


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  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

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  Take 2


  Commit: 71d0d5b613570339bf5a2cf22ff26edb48e068e0
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  Author: janaiyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-16 (Thu, 16 Feb 2017)

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  Merge pull request #288 from quicwg/cleanup_packet_number

Cleanup packet number text


  Commit: 983c2053430f5374119ff44becb64416075a162e
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  Date:   2017-02-16 (Thu, 16 Feb 2017)

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  Merge pull request #298 from quicwg/frames_arent_retransmitted

Refine retransmission rules


  Commit: 8817ef0f3e01387437dc5d56b05b7b0dcba6b074
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  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

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  Merge branch 'master' into redefine_outstanding


  Commit: d8911972c6bc142eed1bb7f789c46f74d53e0645
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  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

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  Merge branch 'master' into transport_priority


  Commit: 3764464f8afcda0d85501e6b9ed8f844d48ed5ec
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  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

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  Merge branch 'master' into ack_in_full


  Commit: 85bee5baa76f4dd37711cd7048f6dcc79d92cfce
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  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

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  Adding an informative reference for MPTCP.


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  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

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* Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md

* Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md

* Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md

Add some text on handshake state transitions cancelling handshake frames.

* Fix Ian's trailing whitespace

* Reformat example


  Commit: f00fe5feca61ebad478284d154b1a13e4daf6da1
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  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

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  Adding an informative reference for randomness requirements.


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  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

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  Fixing spaces; hopefully this will fix the Travis issue as well.


  Commit: 9bf13459b96927cfd199d78b4add0311b11c9856
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  Author: Jana Iyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

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  Changing the phrase crypto cover


  Commit: 6081b18b985c9cd6617720ac0918b30b54a9b88e
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  Author: Jana Iyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

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  Replace uses of the word crypto with cryptographic


  Commit: 8d96b05969a1b29fdac7929114719d1e577d1364
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  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

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  Revert "Replace uses of the word crypto with cryptographic"

This reverts commit 6081b18b985c9cd6617720ac0918b30b54a9b88e.


  Commit: 85f8cbf8b974c541fc060a62c4b159933608e833
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  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

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  Revert "Changing the phrase crypto cover"

This reverts commit 9bf13459b96927cfd199d78b4add0311b11c9856.


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  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

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  Merge pull request #306 from quicwg/ack_in_full

Use the word "acknowledge" in full when used in prose


  Commit: f3b01afe66a32eaef5253a9204b6f009a42ad521
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  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

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  Merge pull request #315 from quicwg/quic_trans-random-ref

Adding an informative reference for randomness requirements.


  Commit: f604b5451defd91a9dc2ca3bf8766413d9d29b4a
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  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

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  Merge pull request #312 from quicwg/quic_trans-mptcp-ref

Adding an informative reference for MPTCP.


  Commit: a7a7989a5cc0d6a3f1561817814f1cdebe0e332a
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  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

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  Merge pull request #302 from quicwg/aad_header

Integrity protection for the header


  Commit: eaa65579cae68b11cc13991f4e7eb4ece3c1dbdf
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  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

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  Merge pull request #303 from quicwg/transport_priority

Add a section on stream prioritization


  Commit: 6123667c0c3cb42d07a5703b3a24ec241ebd67de
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  Author: janaiyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

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  Merge pull request #299 from quicwg/redefine_outstanding

Redefine outstanding


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  Author: janaiyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

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  Merge pull request #92 from quicwg/short_abstract

Short abstract


  Commit: c2c90d471008b5e74c7dc8cec792bab56d5b8eca
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  Author: seanturner <sean@sn3rd.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

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  Adding a reference for ASCII.


  Commit: 08c8f41caae3981786277e89cd0b096ae3d1cfe8
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  Author: janaiyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

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  Merge pull request #318 from quicwg/quic_trans-ascii-ref

Adding a reference for ASCII


  Commit: bf49e20db78994776106b9ec8c2376f4e60cea47
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  Author: seanturner <sean@sn3rd.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

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  Some minor editorial tweaks for s6.2.1.2.


  Commit: 044edc1761230df967aae7630f49cfa81891cac2
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  Author: seanturner <sean@sn3rd.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Some minor editorial tweaks for s6.1.


  Commit: e613dbfa4c4c40caf143e1a84fd7b5627a0ae96c
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  Author: seanturner <sean@sn3rd.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

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  Adding a ')' in s5.2.


  Commit: d9d119afaf1b8ca21fb16134dff0abf4ffc615cc
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  Author: janaiyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Merge pull request #320 from quicwg/quic_trans-s6.2.1.2

Some minor editorial tweaks for s6.2.1.2.


  Commit: 567ea55258b3329ad315104c63befd35e132f8bc
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/567ea55258b3329ad315104c63befd35e132f8bc
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-18 (Sat, 18 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #322 from quicwg/quic_trans-s5.2-editorial

Adding a ')' in s5.2.


  Commit: ee98dee0f3043b78de22572638e75b67a4ea60e6
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  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-18 (Sat, 18 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #321 from quicwg/quic_trans-s6.1-editorial

Some minor editorial tweaks for s6.1.


  Commit: 6baf44caae3db986e00e4b4fa40edfc57d55b05c
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  Author: seanturner <sean@sn3rd.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

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  Log Message:
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  Changing reference.


  Commit: 7c869ee495670dc67b285163579176be35b71a10
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  Author: janaiyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-17 (Fri, 17 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #324 from quicwg/quic_trans-s7-ref

Changing reference


  Commit: 05e848389bfc5e54981733b77ce91d1b17063fd8
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/05e848389bfc5e54981733b77ce91d1b17063fd8
  Author: Jana Iyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Removes use of the word crypto


  Commit: 4890980976fc467ce880785e740a96e3058ec501
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  Author: Jana Iyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Revert "Replace uses of the word crypto with cryptographic"

This reverts commit 6081b18b985c9cd6617720ac0918b30b54a9b88e.


  Commit: c68d4c3f87b50ebaa73b57d250d9613add47ad4d
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  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Add definition of transport parameters to -transport


  Commit: df6be7dcdda7e4f3dcf7e23f517df1c0c28f479d
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/df6be7dcdda7e4f3dcf7e23f517df1c0c28f479d
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Define the extension in -tls


  Commit: 54b4a61e0d1922edbc730f841a9f2ba346b8eaa7
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/54b4a61e0d1922edbc730f841a9f2ba346b8eaa7
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Add a stub iana section, fix dead references


  Commit: 58b44bf9b5e15c529161c4d8c1888b4e7b6fd677
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  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Remove COPT, add rule about unknown extensions


  Commit: 69682c831f4bd2a0be0d05fd4d055a358c89b2f3
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  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Reference WINDOW_UPDATE properly


  Commit: c6f4388dc58e2a76a6470b0413c7847254076972
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  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Remove extra sentence on ignoring unknown parameters


  Commit: 4e553f5b886194f38e891ed417e23010505170d5
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/4e553f5b886194f38e891ed417e23010505170d5
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  editorial


  Commit: c003df817b99fe07e586dc6cac34a389e26bc978
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  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Correct reference


  Commit: ff697d3b351b7d29ffcd80cc1b65612474e87df3
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/ff697d3b351b7d29ffcd80cc1b65612474e87df3
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Move crypto requirements to head of section


  Commit: 0a927e4af2bfb104e196f8b3d80ea53158997c50
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  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Wrap note


  Commit: b251df5185cdd6bebcd98c623c8af7cc562abf7d
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  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Remove QUIC-Crypto reference


  Commit: 64e9772ff2e1caf5ba501ff22ec56b842276c4ce
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  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Transport parameter are available when the handshake completes


  Commit: 081ef5e884f5f8afac230b0a6595a62cea1ff90f
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  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Simplify the section on new parameters


  Commit: e5d5bf4bbc14b7e8113c8bebe52bb70ef06c57ec
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/e5d5bf4bbc14b7e8113c8bebe52bb70ef06c57ec
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Add IANA considerations


  Commit: 665a59a1f7bb820ff747181ce0473e6a20c9e61d
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  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Add transport parameters to the handshake interface in TLS


  Commit: 895a68e5a070fc3ab0812c6d600c2dfab3671805
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  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Fix formatting


  Commit: 06a89351bc04ea4a3423fddbba3a46caa6ff33d5
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  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Proofread version negotiation and correct errors


  Commit: 10be7da7a955c036fda774ac50c5d8b9166cb511
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  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

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  Log Message:
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  Use hex, add initial registry contents


  Commit: e671b0d7151c8385413127fae597dc2e34c64fcf
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  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

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  Transport parameters during 0-RTT are either remembered or defaults

This changes the definition for transport parameters from "MUST remember"
as I originally wrote up, to the frankly insane consensus position from
the Tokyo interim.

Closes #126


  Commit: bb4f04d7b0e34d8dbf19efad54be5a530b9f5faa
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  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

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  Fix long line


  Commit: 8922744059e9ec82ea39bdc30cc1cf970fd93f0b
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  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Rename transport parameters, closes #300


  Commit: 8e5a5385d26c7c1c997778e7e45abaa159c91e3e
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/8e5a5385d26c7c1c997778e7e45abaa159c91e3e
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

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  Cryptographic handshake, blah, blah


  Commit: 0fada3c9e3445b83e7bbfdd39481e5c8a16a03c7
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/0fada3c9e3445b83e7bbfdd39481e5c8a16a03c7
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Jana's review comments


  Commit: 686aad7bb2e2ecc26125dd23e864e9eb83683567
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  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-20 (Mon, 20 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Correct line length


  Commit: 6251ab1170c23f447b04967787b571aaa6089dfa
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  Author: ianswett <ianswett@users.noreply.github.com>
  Date:   2017-02-21 (Tue, 21 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Fix recovery formatting (#313)

* Replace uses of encrypted with protected.
* Constistenly use * instead of x everywhere for multiplication
* Remove trailing ;
* Convert the constants and variables into Kramdown definition lists.

* Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md

* Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md

Fix an overly long line.


  Commit: 1ffe4e9a397d28d03102a32d665e10a3f30d988e
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  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-22 (Wed, 22 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Fix case


  Commit: 8ec5114e935951f9eaaae934a5213d459aacf67f
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  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-22 (Wed, 22 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Merge pull request #122 from quicwg/transport_parameters_mt

Define transport parameters


  Commit: c7128b858ec518e1b39e03ba8b56fbd34def11b0
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c7128b858ec518e1b39e03ba8b56fbd34def11b0
  Author: Jana Iyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-21 (Tue, 21 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Missing ones.


  Commit: 0d1e8573b7b8901513f04487176885324d7b3506
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/0d1e8573b7b8901513f04487176885324d7b3506
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-22 (Wed, 22 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Merge pull request #316 from quicwg/crypto

Removes use of the word crypto


  Commit: a60df37885a7c52c558bc67d6cd21c14dba96a8b
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  Author: Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de>
  Date:   2017-02-22 (Wed, 22 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  transport-unused-references

This reference is unused.


  Commit: 51e2bbdb204771009290f835717f20f183df907a
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  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-22 (Wed, 22 Feb 2017)

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  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #332 from reschke/patch-2

transport-unused-references


  Commit: 07591c76147a6d23aae7cac3527bc366fab136a9
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  Author: Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de>
  Date:   2017-02-22 (Wed, 22 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  http-unused-reference

This reference is unused.


  Commit: 0a78976ad4194726cfd7913682842c10efc2be73
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  Author: Mike Bishop <michael.bishop@microsoft.com>
  Date:   2017-02-22 (Wed, 22 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Wrap Sequence, for now (#273)


  Commit: 1a04b6661d49de95132924bd6b021c63f8eb9626
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  Author: Mike Bishop <michbish@microsoft.com>
  Date:   2017-02-22 (Wed, 22 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/master' into no-reservation-needed


Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/570fbd5eec8a...1a04b6661d49
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Closed #127 via #271.

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<p>Closed <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/127" class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/127" data-id="199121074" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-permission-text="Issue title is private">#127</a> via <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/271" class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/271" data-id="206336019" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-permission-text="Issue title is private">#271</a>.</p>

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MikeBishop commented on this pull request.



> @@ -2165,6 +2169,9 @@ QUIC_MULTIPLE_TERMINATION_OFFSETS (0x80000005):
 QUIC_STREAM_CANCELLED (0x80000006):
 : The stream was cancelled
 
+QUIC_CLOSED_CRITICAL_STREAM (0x80000007):
+: A stream that is critical to the protocol was closed or reset.

Minor, but I think you can just say "closed," as "reset" is a type of closure.

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<p><b>@MikeBishop</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/335#discussion_r102621152">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -2165,6 +2169,9 @@ QUIC_MULTIPLE_TERMINATION_OFFSETS (0x80000005):
 QUIC_STREAM_CANCELLED (0x80000006):
 : The stream was cancelled
 
+QUIC_CLOSED_CRITICAL_STREAM (0x80000007):
+: A stream that is critical to the protocol was closed or reset.
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<p>Minor, but I think you can just say "closed," as "reset" is a type of closure.</p>

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      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/26355bc86cac4fb925417f9db18c372fef859aa3
  Author: Mike Bishop <michael.bishop@microsoft.com>
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  Changed paths:
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  Remove the Reserved flag bits (#271)



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janaiyengar commented on this pull request.

A few small comments

> -       FIN: FIN flag in a STREAM frame
-       RST: RST_STREAM frame
-
-       app: application API signals to QUIC
-       reserve_stream: causes a StreamID to be reserved for later use
-       read_close: causes stream to be half-closed without a FIN
-       write_close: causes stream to be half-closed without a FIN
+                            +--------+
+                            |        |
+                            |  idle  |
+                            |        |
+                            +--------+
+                                 |
+                                 | send data/
+                                 | recv data/
+                                 | recv higher stream

What does "recv higher stream" mean?

> @@ -1575,20 +1570,15 @@ Sending or receiving a STREAM frame causes the stream to become "open".  The
 stream identifier is selected as described in {{stream-identifiers}}.  The same
 STREAM frame can also cause a stream to immediately become "half-closed".
 
-An application can reserve an idle stream for later use.  The stream state for
-the reserved stream transitions to "reserved".
+Receiving a STREAM frame on a peer-initiated stream (that is, a packet sent by a
+server on an even-numbered stream or a client packet on an odd-numbered stream)
+also causes all idle streams with lower numbers to become "open".  This could

This isn't accurate, since it's only odd/even streams that are marked open. How about '... also causes all lower-numbered idle streams in the same direction to become "open".' ?

> @@ -1697,9 +1687,10 @@ new stream.
 StreamID 1 (0x1) is reserved for the crypto handshake.  StreamID 1 MUST NOT be
 used for application data, and MUST be the first client-initiated stream.
 
-Streams MUST be created or reserved in sequential order, but MAY be used in
-arbitrary order.  A QUIC endpoint MUST NOT reuse a StreamID on a given
-connection.
+A QUIC endpoint cannot reuse a StreamID on a given connection.  Streams MUST be
+created in sequential order.  Open streams can be used in any order.  Streams
+that are used out of order result in lower-numbered streams being counted as

"lower-numbered streams in the same direction"

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<p><b>@janaiyengar</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

<p>A few small comments</p><hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/280#discussion_r102628612">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; -       FIN: FIN flag in a STREAM frame
-       RST: RST_STREAM frame
-
-       app: application API signals to QUIC
-       reserve_stream: causes a StreamID to be reserved for later use
-       read_close: causes stream to be half-closed without a FIN
-       write_close: causes stream to be half-closed without a FIN
+                            +--------+
+                            |        |
+                            |  idle  |
+                            |        |
+                            +--------+
+                                 |
+                                 | send data/
+                                 | recv data/
+                                 | recv higher stream
</pre>
<p>What does "recv higher stream" mean?</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/280#discussion_r102629083">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -1575,20 +1570,15 @@ Sending or receiving a STREAM frame causes the stream to become &quot;open&quot;.  The
 stream identifier is selected as described in {{stream-identifiers}}.  The same
 STREAM frame can also cause a stream to immediately become &quot;half-closed&quot;.
 
-An application can reserve an idle stream for later use.  The stream state for
-the reserved stream transitions to &quot;reserved&quot;.
+Receiving a STREAM frame on a peer-initiated stream (that is, a packet sent by a
+server on an even-numbered stream or a client packet on an odd-numbered stream)
+also causes all idle streams with lower numbers to become &quot;open&quot;.  This could
</pre>
<p>This isn't accurate, since it's only odd/even streams that are marked open. How about '... also causes all lower-numbered idle streams in the same direction to become "open".' ?</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/280#discussion_r102629189">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -1697,9 +1687,10 @@ new stream.
 StreamID 1 (0x1) is reserved for the crypto handshake.  StreamID 1 MUST NOT be
 used for application data, and MUST be the first client-initiated stream.
 
-Streams MUST be created or reserved in sequential order, but MAY be used in
-arbitrary order.  A QUIC endpoint MUST NOT reuse a StreamID on a given
-connection.
+A QUIC endpoint cannot reuse a StreamID on a given connection.  Streams MUST be
+created in sequential order.  Open streams can be used in any order.  Streams
+that are used out of order result in lower-numbered streams being counted as
</pre>
<p>"lower-numbered streams in the same direction"</p>

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I think we do have an agreement that data on a properly terminated stream (terminated with FIN that has received all data) MUST deliver the bits to the application after CONNECTION_CLOSE.

The question is what to do with other streams (open streams) after CONNECTION_CLOSE.
Proposals:

- MUST deliver all data that has been received (until the first gap), or
- SHOULD deliver all data that has been received (until the first gap), or
- SHOULD NOT deliver any data

It also seems like there is an agreement that whatever is decided here should also apply to RST_STREAM and a Public Reset. 

At this point I think that an application should be able to pick its semantics (via some QUIC library mechanism). So I do not like the MUST alternative.

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<p>I think we do have an agreement that data on a properly terminated strea=
m (terminated with FIN that has received all data) MUST deliver the bits to=
 the application after CONNECTION_CLOSE.</p>
<p>The question is what to do with other streams (open streams) after CONNE=
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Proposals:</p>
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<p>It also seems like there is an agreement that whatever is decided here s=
hould also apply to RST_STREAM and a Public Reset.</p>
<p>At this point I think that an application should be able to pick its sem=
antics (via some QUIC library mechanism). So I do not like the MUST alterna=
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> -       FIN: FIN flag in a STREAM frame
-       RST: RST_STREAM frame
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-       app: application API signals to QUIC
-       reserve_stream: causes a StreamID to be reserved for later use
-       read_close: causes stream to be half-closed without a FIN
-       write_close: causes stream to be half-closed without a FIN
+                            +--------+
+                            |        |
+                            |  idle  |
+                            |        |
+                            +--------+
+                                 |
+                                 | send data/
+                                 | recv data/
+                                 | recv higher stream

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<p><b>@martinthomson</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/280#discussion_r102629451">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; -       FIN: FIN flag in a STREAM frame
-       RST: RST_STREAM frame
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-       app: application API signals to QUIC
-       reserve_stream: causes a StreamID to be reserved for later use
-       read_close: causes stream to be half-closed without a FIN
-       write_close: causes stream to be half-closed without a FIN
+                            +--------+
+                            |        |
+                            |  idle  |
+                            |        |
+                            +--------+
+                                 |
+                                 | send data/
+                                 | recv data/
+                                 | recv higher stream
</pre>
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> @@ -1575,20 +1570,15 @@ Sending or receiving a STREAM frame causes the stream to become "open".  The
 stream identifier is selected as described in {{stream-identifiers}}.  The same
 STREAM frame can also cause a stream to immediately become "half-closed".
 
-An application can reserve an idle stream for later use.  The stream state for
-the reserved stream transitions to "reserved".
+Receiving a STREAM frame on a peer-initiated stream (that is, a packet sent by a
+server on an even-numbered stream or a client packet on an odd-numbered stream)
+also causes all idle streams with lower numbers to become "open".  This could

Yep, better.  This odds and evens thing is a real drag.

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<p><b>@martinthomson</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/280#discussion_r102629579">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -1575,20 +1570,15 @@ Sending or receiving a STREAM frame causes the stream to become &quot;open&quot;.  The
 stream identifier is selected as described in {{stream-identifiers}}.  The same
 STREAM frame can also cause a stream to immediately become &quot;half-closed&quot;.
 
-An application can reserve an idle stream for later use.  The stream state for
-the reserved stream transitions to &quot;reserved&quot;.
+Receiving a STREAM frame on a peer-initiated stream (that is, a packet sent by a
+server on an even-numbered stream or a client packet on an odd-numbered stream)
+also causes all idle streams with lower numbers to become &quot;open&quot;.  This could
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  Branch: refs/heads/no_reservations
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  Changed paths:
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  Lower-numbered streams need to be in the same direction



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> +MUST tear down state associated with the connection.  The endpoint MUST then
+cease sending packets on the connection and SHOULD discard any subsequent
+packets that arrive.  A Public Reset that contains an invalid proof MUST be
+ignored.
+
+A Public Reset packet sent by an on-path intermediary will not - and cannot -
+include proof that the sender participated in the initial connection handshake.
+It is sent by a middlebox to notify an endpoint that the path is no longer
+functional.  Such a Public Reset does not include a Public Reset Proof, it
+includes only the connection ID, which provides an assurance that the middlebox
+received packets on the flow.
+
+After receiving a Public Reset that omits the Public Reset Proof, an endpoint
+SHOULD stop sending on the path on which the Public Reset was received.  Packets
+that are received on the path MAY be discarded.  Without support for multipath,
+this means that the connection could become unusable.

could recognizes the problem that the next paragraph covers

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/335#discussion_r102630167">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +MUST tear down state associated with the connection.  The endpoint MUST then
+cease sending packets on the connection and SHOULD discard any subsequent
+packets that arrive.  A Public Reset that contains an invalid proof MUST be
+ignored.
+
+A Public Reset packet sent by an on-path intermediary will not - and cannot -
+include proof that the sender participated in the initial connection handshake.
+It is sent by a middlebox to notify an endpoint that the path is no longer
+functional.  Such a Public Reset does not include a Public Reset Proof, it
+includes only the connection ID, which provides an assurance that the middlebox
+received packets on the flow.
+
+After receiving a Public Reset that omits the Public Reset Proof, an endpoint
+SHOULD stop sending on the path on which the Public Reset was received.  Packets
+that are received on the path MAY be discarded.  Without support for multipath,
+this means that the connection could become unusable.
</pre>
<p>could recognizes the problem that the next paragraph covers</p>

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> +state necessary to continue with a connection.  In this case, the endpoint will
+include the fields that prove that it originally participated in the connection
+(see {{public-reset-proof}} for details).
+
+Upon receipt of a Public Reset packet that contains a valid proof, an endpoint
+MUST tear down state associated with the connection.  The endpoint MUST then
+cease sending packets on the connection and SHOULD discard any subsequent
+packets that arrive.  A Public Reset that contains an invalid proof MUST be
+ignored.
+
+A Public Reset packet sent by an on-path intermediary will not - and cannot -
+include proof that the sender participated in the initial connection handshake.
+It is sent by a middlebox to notify an endpoint that the path is no longer
+functional.  Such a Public Reset does not include a Public Reset Proof, it
+includes only the connection ID, which provides an assurance that the middlebox
+received packets on the flow.

You have to put something in the field.  And while I agree that it's not necessarily true that a connection ID sufficient, it is something that a recipient of a PR will have and can use.  The same goes for packet numbers, which I anticipate adding to this.

I hope that there is only ever a need for one type of proof per version.  That suggests that switching on type isn't necessary.  Can you justify having multiple types of proof within the same version?

Note that this all anticipates merging something like Jana's most recent header proposal to some extent.

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<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/335#discussion_r102630477">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +state necessary to continue with a connection.  In this case, the endpoint will
+include the fields that prove that it originally participated in the connection
+(see {{public-reset-proof}} for details).
+
+Upon receipt of a Public Reset packet that contains a valid proof, an endpoint
+MUST tear down state associated with the connection.  The endpoint MUST then
+cease sending packets on the connection and SHOULD discard any subsequent
+packets that arrive.  A Public Reset that contains an invalid proof MUST be
+ignored.
+
+A Public Reset packet sent by an on-path intermediary will not - and cannot -
+include proof that the sender participated in the initial connection handshake.
+It is sent by a middlebox to notify an endpoint that the path is no longer
+functional.  Such a Public Reset does not include a Public Reset Proof, it
+includes only the connection ID, which provides an assurance that the middlebox
+received packets on the flow.
</pre>
<p>You have to put something in the field.  And while I agree that it's not necessarily true that a connection ID sufficient, it is something that a recipient of a PR will have and can use.  The same goes for packet numbers, which I anticipate adding to this.</p>
<p>I hope that there is only ever a need for one type of proof per version.  That suggests that switching on type isn't necessary.  Can you justify having multiple types of proof within the same version?</p>
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martinthomson commented on this pull request.



> +include proof that the sender participated in the initial connection handshake.
+It is sent by a middlebox to notify an endpoint that the path is no longer
+functional.  Such a Public Reset does not include a Public Reset Proof, it
+includes only the connection ID, which provides an assurance that the middlebox
+received packets on the flow.
+
+After receiving a Public Reset that omits the Public Reset Proof, an endpoint
+SHOULD stop sending on the path on which the Public Reset was received.  Packets
+that are received on the path MAY be discarded.  Without support for multipath,
+this means that the connection could become unusable.
+
+A middlebox might send a packet in an attempt to attack a connection.  If
+packets continue to arrive after a Public Reset, this could indicate an attack.
+Delays could mean that a few packets arrive after a Public Reset, but if this
+continues well beyond the observed bounds on jitter, an endpoint MAY consider
+the Public Reset to have been spurious.

Happy to accept that guidance if you have it.  I was going to say something about round trips or packets, but it's not especially easy to pick an answer or even general guidance.

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<p><b>@martinthomson</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/335#discussion_r102630640">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +include proof that the sender participated in the initial connection handshake.
+It is sent by a middlebox to notify an endpoint that the path is no longer
+functional.  Such a Public Reset does not include a Public Reset Proof, it
+includes only the connection ID, which provides an assurance that the middlebox
+received packets on the flow.
+
+After receiving a Public Reset that omits the Public Reset Proof, an endpoint
+SHOULD stop sending on the path on which the Public Reset was received.  Packets
+that are received on the path MAY be discarded.  Without support for multipath,
+this means that the connection could become unusable.
+
+A middlebox might send a packet in an attempt to attack a connection.  If
+packets continue to arrive after a Public Reset, this could indicate an attack.
+Delays could mean that a few packets arrive after a Public Reset, but if this
+continues well beyond the observed bounds on jitter, an endpoint MAY consider
+the Public Reset to have been spurious.
</pre>
<p>Happy to accept that guidance if you have it.  I was going to say something about round trips or packets, but it's not especially easy to pick an answer or even general guidance.</p>

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> ------------------------------
>
> In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md
> <https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/335#discussion_r102630640>:
>
> > +include proof that the sender participated in the initial connection h=
andshake.
> +It is sent by a middlebox to notify an endpoint that the path is no long=
er
> +functional.  Such a Public Reset does not include a Public Reset Proof, =
it
> +includes only the connection ID, which provides an assurance that the mi=
ddlebox
> +received packets on the flow.
> +
> +After receiving a Public Reset that omits the Public Reset Proof, an end=
point
> +SHOULD stop sending on the path on which the Public Reset was received. =
 Packets
> +that are received on the path MAY be discarded.  Without support for mul=
tipath,
> +this means that the connection could become unusable.
> +
> +A middlebox might send a packet in an attempt to attack a connection.  If
> +packets continue to arrive after a Public Reset, this could indicate an =
attack.
> +Delays could mean that a few packets arrive after a Public Reset, but if=
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> +continues well beyond the observed bounds on jitter, an endpoint MAY con=
sider
> +the Public Reset to have been spurious.
>
> Happy to accept that guidance if you have it. I was going to say something
> about round trips or packets, but it's not especially easy to pick an
> answer or even general guidance.
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If that's true, then we just shouldn't standardize this feature at all. I
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> +state necessary to continue with a connection.  In this case, the endpoint will
+include the fields that prove that it originally participated in the connection
+(see {{public-reset-proof}} for details).
+
+Upon receipt of a Public Reset packet that contains a valid proof, an endpoint
+MUST tear down state associated with the connection.  The endpoint MUST then
+cease sending packets on the connection and SHOULD discard any subsequent
+packets that arrive.  A Public Reset that contains an invalid proof MUST be
+ignored.
+
+A Public Reset packet sent by an on-path intermediary will not - and cannot -
+include proof that the sender participated in the initial connection handshake.
+It is sent by a middlebox to notify an endpoint that the path is no longer
+functional.  Such a Public Reset does not include a Public Reset Proof, it
+includes only the connection ID, which provides an assurance that the middlebox
+received packets on the flow.

As I understand it, it's quite likely that servers will not be sending the connection ID at all for many connections because the host/port is sufficient, so it's not clear that you have to put something in this field.

As far as having multiple kinds of proof, this PR in fact anticipates that, with one for an endpoint and one for middleboxes, it just labels the endpoint one proof and the middlebox one connection ID.

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<p><b>@ekr</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/335#discussion_r102630956">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +state necessary to continue with a connection.  In this case, the endpoint will
+include the fields that prove that it originally participated in the connection
+(see {{public-reset-proof}} for details).
+
+Upon receipt of a Public Reset packet that contains a valid proof, an endpoint
+MUST tear down state associated with the connection.  The endpoint MUST then
+cease sending packets on the connection and SHOULD discard any subsequent
+packets that arrive.  A Public Reset that contains an invalid proof MUST be
+ignored.
+
+A Public Reset packet sent by an on-path intermediary will not - and cannot -
+include proof that the sender participated in the initial connection handshake.
+It is sent by a middlebox to notify an endpoint that the path is no longer
+functional.  Such a Public Reset does not include a Public Reset Proof, it
+includes only the connection ID, which provides an assurance that the middlebox
+received packets on the flow.
</pre>
<p>As I understand it, it's quite likely that servers will not be sending the connection ID at all for many connections because the host/port is sufficient, so it's not clear that you have to put something in this field.</p>
<p>As far as having multiple kinds of proof, this PR in fact anticipates that, with one for an endpoint and one for middleboxes, it just labels the endpoint one proof and the middlebox one connection ID.</p>

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> +state necessary to continue with a connection.  In this case, the endpoint will
+include the fields that prove that it originally participated in the connection
+(see {{public-reset-proof}} for details).
+
+Upon receipt of a Public Reset packet that contains a valid proof, an endpoint
+MUST tear down state associated with the connection.  The endpoint MUST then
+cease sending packets on the connection and SHOULD discard any subsequent
+packets that arrive.  A Public Reset that contains an invalid proof MUST be
+ignored.
+
+A Public Reset packet sent by an on-path intermediary will not - and cannot -
+include proof that the sender participated in the initial connection handshake.
+It is sent by a middlebox to notify an endpoint that the path is no longer
+functional.  Such a Public Reset does not include a Public Reset Proof, it
+includes only the connection ID, which provides an assurance that the middlebox
+received packets on the flow.

Jana's proposal has a strategy for that.  If you don't like it, then we can continue to work on that.

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<p><b>@martinthomson</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/335#discussion_r102631870">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +state necessary to continue with a connection.  In this case, the endpoint will
+include the fields that prove that it originally participated in the connection
+(see {{public-reset-proof}} for details).
+
+Upon receipt of a Public Reset packet that contains a valid proof, an endpoint
+MUST tear down state associated with the connection.  The endpoint MUST then
+cease sending packets on the connection and SHOULD discard any subsequent
+packets that arrive.  A Public Reset that contains an invalid proof MUST be
+ignored.
+
+A Public Reset packet sent by an on-path intermediary will not - and cannot -
+include proof that the sender participated in the initial connection handshake.
+It is sent by a middlebox to notify an endpoint that the path is no longer
+functional.  Such a Public Reset does not include a Public Reset Proof, it
+includes only the connection ID, which provides an assurance that the middlebox
+received packets on the flow.
</pre>
<p>Jana's proposal has a strategy for that.  If you don't like it, then we can continue to work on that.</p>

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  Dealing with middleboxen more strictly, MAY discard, continue after receiving packets more than rttvar after the Public Reset


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@martinthomson pushed 2 commits.

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> -       FIN: FIN flag in a STREAM frame
-       RST: RST_STREAM frame
-
-       app: application API signals to QUIC
-       reserve_stream: causes a StreamID to be reserved for later use
-       read_close: causes stream to be half-closed without a FIN
-       write_close: causes stream to be half-closed without a FIN
+                            +--------+
+                            |        |
+                            |  idle  |
+                            |        |
+                            +--------+
+                                 |
+                                 | send data/
+                                 | recv data/
+                                 | recv higher stream

Just to be a little clearer, this is a shorthand for "receive a STREAM frame on a peer-initiated stream with a higher number, given that this is also a peer-initiated stream".

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<p><b>@martinthomson</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/280#discussion_r102633504">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; -       FIN: FIN flag in a STREAM frame
-       RST: RST_STREAM frame
-
-       app: application API signals to QUIC
-       reserve_stream: causes a StreamID to be reserved for later use
-       read_close: causes stream to be half-closed without a FIN
-       write_close: causes stream to be half-closed without a FIN
+                            +--------+
+                            |        |
+                            |  idle  |
+                            |        |
+                            +--------+
+                                 |
+                                 | send data/
+                                 | recv data/
+                                 | recv higher stream
</pre>
<p>Just to be a little clearer, this is a shorthand for "receive a STREAM frame on a peer-initiated stream with a higher number, given that this is also a peer-initiated stream".</p>

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janaiyengar commented on this pull request.

One question and a few minor changes. LGTM modulo those.

> -update the state that is included in the ticket.  This might be done to refresh
-the ticket, or in response to changes in the state of a connection.
+Source address validation is therefore performed during the establishment of a
+connection.  TLS provides the tools that support the feature, but basic
+validation is performed by the core transport protocol.
+
+
+### Client Address Validation Procedure
+
+QUIC uses token-based address validation.  Any time the server wishes to
+validate a client address, it provides the client with a token.  As long as the
+token cannot be easily guessed (see {{token-integrity}}), if the client is able
+to return that token, it proves to the server that it received the token.
+
+During the processing of the cryptographic handshake messages from a client, TLS
+will request that the transport make a decision about whether to proceed based

replace "the transport" with "QUIC"

> -the ticket, or in response to changes in the state of a connection.
+Source address validation is therefore performed during the establishment of a
+connection.  TLS provides the tools that support the feature, but basic
+validation is performed by the core transport protocol.
+
+
+### Client Address Validation Procedure
+
+QUIC uses token-based address validation.  Any time the server wishes to
+validate a client address, it provides the client with a token.  As long as the
+token cannot be easily guessed (see {{token-integrity}}), if the client is able
+to return that token, it proves to the server that it received the token.
+
+During the processing of the cryptographic handshake messages from a client, TLS
+will request that the transport make a decision about whether to proceed based
+on the information it has.  TLS will provide the transport with any token that

the transport --> QUIC

> +Source address validation is therefore performed during the establishment of a
+connection.  TLS provides the tools that support the feature, but basic
+validation is performed by the core transport protocol.
+
+
+### Client Address Validation Procedure
+
+QUIC uses token-based address validation.  Any time the server wishes to
+validate a client address, it provides the client with a token.  As long as the
+token cannot be easily guessed (see {{token-integrity}}), if the client is able
+to return that token, it proves to the server that it received the token.
+
+During the processing of the cryptographic handshake messages from a client, TLS
+will request that the transport make a decision about whether to proceed based
+on the information it has.  TLS will provide the transport with any token that
+was provided by the client.  For an initial packet, the transport can decide to

ditto here and below

> +validate a client address, it provides the client with a token.  As long as the
+token cannot be easily guessed (see {{token-integrity}}), if the client is able
+to return that token, it proves to the server that it received the token.
+
+During the processing of the cryptographic handshake messages from a client, TLS
+will request that the transport make a decision about whether to proceed based
+on the information it has.  TLS will provide the transport with any token that
+was provided by the client.  For an initial packet, the transport can decide to
+abort the connection, allow it to proceed, or request address validation.
+
+If the transport decides to request address validation, it provides the
+cryptographic handshake with a token.  The contents of this token are consumed
+by the server that generates the token, so there is no need for a single
+well-defined format.  A token could include information about the claimed client
+address (IP and port), and any other supplementary information the server will
+need to validate the token in the future.

While we're suggesting, add "timestamp" as a suggestion?

> +During the processing of the cryptographic handshake messages from a client, TLS
+will request that the transport make a decision about whether to proceed based
+on the information it has.  TLS will provide the transport with any token that
+was provided by the client.  For an initial packet, the transport can decide to
+abort the connection, allow it to proceed, or request address validation.
+
+If the transport decides to request address validation, it provides the
+cryptographic handshake with a token.  The contents of this token are consumed
+by the server that generates the token, so there is no need for a single
+well-defined format.  A token could include information about the claimed client
+address (IP and port), and any other supplementary information the server will
+need to validate the token in the future.
+
+The cryptographic handshake is responsible for enacting validation by sending
+the address validation token to the client.  A legitimate client will include a
+copy of the token when they attempt to continue the handshake.  The

"they attempt" --> "it attempts"

> +
+If the transport decides to request address validation, it provides the
+cryptographic handshake with a token.  The contents of this token are consumed
+by the server that generates the token, so there is no need for a single
+well-defined format.  A token could include information about the claimed client
+address (IP and port), and any other supplementary information the server will
+need to validate the token in the future.
+
+The cryptographic handshake is responsible for enacting validation by sending
+the address validation token to the client.  A legitimate client will include a
+copy of the token when they attempt to continue the handshake.  The
+cryptographic handshake extracts the token then asks the transport a second time
+whether the token is acceptable.  In response, the transport can either abort
+the connection or permit it to proceed.
+
+A connection MAY be accepted without address validation - or with only limited

I don't understand what this means. Why should a connection be accepted without address validation?

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<p><b>@janaiyengar</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

<p>One question and a few minor changes. LGTM modulo those.</p><hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/275#discussion_r102634857">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; -update the state that is included in the ticket.  This might be done to refresh
-the ticket, or in response to changes in the state of a connection.
+Source address validation is therefore performed during the establishment of a
+connection.  TLS provides the tools that support the feature, but basic
+validation is performed by the core transport protocol.
+
+
+### Client Address Validation Procedure
+
+QUIC uses token-based address validation.  Any time the server wishes to
+validate a client address, it provides the client with a token.  As long as the
+token cannot be easily guessed (see {{token-integrity}}), if the client is able
+to return that token, it proves to the server that it received the token.
+
+During the processing of the cryptographic handshake messages from a client, TLS
+will request that the transport make a decision about whether to proceed based
</pre>
<p>replace "the transport" with "QUIC"</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/275#discussion_r102634899">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; -the ticket, or in response to changes in the state of a connection.
+Source address validation is therefore performed during the establishment of a
+connection.  TLS provides the tools that support the feature, but basic
+validation is performed by the core transport protocol.
+
+
+### Client Address Validation Procedure
+
+QUIC uses token-based address validation.  Any time the server wishes to
+validate a client address, it provides the client with a token.  As long as the
+token cannot be easily guessed (see {{token-integrity}}), if the client is able
+to return that token, it proves to the server that it received the token.
+
+During the processing of the cryptographic handshake messages from a client, TLS
+will request that the transport make a decision about whether to proceed based
+on the information it has.  TLS will provide the transport with any token that
</pre>
<p>the transport --&gt; QUIC</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/275#discussion_r102634911">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +Source address validation is therefore performed during the establishment of a
+connection.  TLS provides the tools that support the feature, but basic
+validation is performed by the core transport protocol.
+
+
+### Client Address Validation Procedure
+
+QUIC uses token-based address validation.  Any time the server wishes to
+validate a client address, it provides the client with a token.  As long as the
+token cannot be easily guessed (see {{token-integrity}}), if the client is able
+to return that token, it proves to the server that it received the token.
+
+During the processing of the cryptographic handshake messages from a client, TLS
+will request that the transport make a decision about whether to proceed based
+on the information it has.  TLS will provide the transport with any token that
+was provided by the client.  For an initial packet, the transport can decide to
</pre>
<p>ditto here and below</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/275#discussion_r102634996">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +validate a client address, it provides the client with a token.  As long as the
+token cannot be easily guessed (see {{token-integrity}}), if the client is able
+to return that token, it proves to the server that it received the token.
+
+During the processing of the cryptographic handshake messages from a client, TLS
+will request that the transport make a decision about whether to proceed based
+on the information it has.  TLS will provide the transport with any token that
+was provided by the client.  For an initial packet, the transport can decide to
+abort the connection, allow it to proceed, or request address validation.
+
+If the transport decides to request address validation, it provides the
+cryptographic handshake with a token.  The contents of this token are consumed
+by the server that generates the token, so there is no need for a single
+well-defined format.  A token could include information about the claimed client
+address (IP and port), and any other supplementary information the server will
+need to validate the token in the future.
</pre>
<p>While we're suggesting, add "timestamp" as a suggestion?</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/275#discussion_r102635078">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +During the processing of the cryptographic handshake messages from a client, TLS
+will request that the transport make a decision about whether to proceed based
+on the information it has.  TLS will provide the transport with any token that
+was provided by the client.  For an initial packet, the transport can decide to
+abort the connection, allow it to proceed, or request address validation.
+
+If the transport decides to request address validation, it provides the
+cryptographic handshake with a token.  The contents of this token are consumed
+by the server that generates the token, so there is no need for a single
+well-defined format.  A token could include information about the claimed client
+address (IP and port), and any other supplementary information the server will
+need to validate the token in the future.
+
+The cryptographic handshake is responsible for enacting validation by sending
+the address validation token to the client.  A legitimate client will include a
+copy of the token when they attempt to continue the handshake.  The
</pre>
<p>"they attempt" --&gt; "it attempts"</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/275#discussion_r102635153">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +
+If the transport decides to request address validation, it provides the
+cryptographic handshake with a token.  The contents of this token are consumed
+by the server that generates the token, so there is no need for a single
+well-defined format.  A token could include information about the claimed client
+address (IP and port), and any other supplementary information the server will
+need to validate the token in the future.
+
+The cryptographic handshake is responsible for enacting validation by sending
+the address validation token to the client.  A legitimate client will include a
+copy of the token when they attempt to continue the handshake.  The
+cryptographic handshake extracts the token then asks the transport a second time
+whether the token is acceptable.  In response, the transport can either abort
+the connection or permit it to proceed.
+
+A connection MAY be accepted without address validation - or with only limited
</pre>
<p>I don't understand what this means. Why should a connection be accepted without address validation?</p>

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  Branch: refs/heads/ack_protection
  Home:   https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts
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This is - at the moment - a little redundant with text in the -tls document.  That's probably OK until we sort out where that text belongs.

Closes #34.
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  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/336

-- Commit Summary --

  * Adding section on packet protection rules

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    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (36)

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<p>This is - at the moment - a little redundant with text in the -tls document.  That's probably OK until we sort out where that text belongs.</p>
<p>Closes <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/34" class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/34" data-id="191924559" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-permission-text="Issue title is private">#34</a>.</p>

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<h4>Commit Summary</h4>
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  <li>Adding section on packet protection rules</li>
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  Branch: refs/heads/stk_part2
  Home:   https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts
  Commit: 60c40650a2c555c349ce474189ef6aa14d7889db
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/60c40650a2c555c349ce474189ef6aa14d7889db
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-23 (Thu, 23 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md
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  Log Message:
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  Expanding and refining source/client address validation


  Commit: c4b1d1947f28ded05037a5e7ef1587a75889cb28
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c4b1d1947f28ded05037a5e7ef1587a75889cb28
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  Date:   2017-02-23 (Thu, 23 Feb 2017)

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  Note that the server sends address validation tokens to itself.  Closes #118.


  Commit: 21b4c6a257eb570c7cc09ebe3f2d4ab16ce13196
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/21b4c6a257eb570c7cc09ebe3f2d4ab16ce13196
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  Log Message:
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  Small refinements


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  Capitals are great, but not that Good.


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  Add text on interaction between hard-to-guess and integrity checks


  Commit: a9853eb0bffb5e101cc41fb5ec970714357a6b36
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/a9853eb0bffb5e101cc41fb5ec970714357a6b36
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-23 (Thu, 23 Feb 2017)

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  Use QUIC instead of 'the transport' and provide a code for address validation failure


Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/45a2391c6fb2...a9853eb0bffb
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> +
+If the transport decides to request address validation, it provides the
+cryptographic handshake with a token.  The contents of this token are consumed
+by the server that generates the token, so there is no need for a single
+well-defined format.  A token could include information about the claimed client
+address (IP and port), and any other supplementary information the server will
+need to validate the token in the future.
+
+The cryptographic handshake is responsible for enacting validation by sending
+the address validation token to the client.  A legitimate client will include a
+copy of the token when they attempt to continue the handshake.  The
+cryptographic handshake extracts the token then asks the transport a second time
+whether the token is acceptable.  In response, the transport can either abort
+the connection or permit it to proceed.
+
+A connection MAY be accepted without address validation - or with only limited

If you aren't going to send much data to the client, then it's a calculated risk.  As I observe here, there is implicit validation when the cryptographic handshake completes and a server might choose to avoid paying the tax of an explicit validation step (and an RTT) in favour of provisionally continuing.

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<p><b>@martinthomson</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/275#discussion_r102636822">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +
+If the transport decides to request address validation, it provides the
+cryptographic handshake with a token.  The contents of this token are consumed
+by the server that generates the token, so there is no need for a single
+well-defined format.  A token could include information about the claimed client
+address (IP and port), and any other supplementary information the server will
+need to validate the token in the future.
+
+The cryptographic handshake is responsible for enacting validation by sending
+the address validation token to the client.  A legitimate client will include a
+copy of the token when they attempt to continue the handshake.  The
+cryptographic handshake extracts the token then asks the transport a second time
+whether the token is acceptable.  In response, the transport can either abort
+the connection or permit it to proceed.
+
+A connection MAY be accepted without address validation - or with only limited
</pre>
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  Branch: refs/heads/unprotect_client_finished
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This actually simplifies things a fair bit.  Now we can just say that 1-RTT keys are available when the Finished message is sent.

Closes #262.
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  * The client Finished message can't be protected with 1-RTT keys

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    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md (92)

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<p>This actually simplifies things a fair bit.  Now we can just say that 1-RTT keys are available when the Finished message is sent.</p>
<p>Closes <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/262" class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/262" data-id="205336061" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-permission-text="Issue title is private">#262</a>.</p>

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<h4>Commit Summary</h4>
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  <li>The client Finished message can&#39;t be protected with 1-RTT keys</li>
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    <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/337/files#diff-0">draft-ietf-quic-tls.md</a>
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  Branch: refs/heads/one_packet_hello
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  Branch: refs/heads/one_packet_hello
  Home:   https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts
  Commit: 0e85a9318f9d6f7f5c072e75b3e4b59bd554aa6c
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/0e85a9318f9d6f7f5c072e75b3e4b59bd554aa6c
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-23 (Thu, 23 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Reword DoS risk text



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I'm marking this as editorial.  It touches both TLS and transport.  Anyone who thinks that this is OK can merge it.
You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/338

-- Commit Summary --

  * ClientHello needs to fit in a single packet
  * Reword DoS risk text

-- File Changes --

    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md (31)
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (10)

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<p>I'm marking this as editorial.  It touches both TLS and transport.  Anyone who thinks that this is OK can merge it.</p>

<hr>

<h4>You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:</h4>
<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href='https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/338'>https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/338</a></p>

<h4>Commit Summary</h4>
<ul>
  <li>ClientHello needs to fit in a single packet</li>
  <li>Reword DoS risk text</li>
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<h4>File Changes</h4>
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  <li>
    <strong>M</strong>
    <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/338/files#diff-0">draft-ietf-quic-tls.md</a>
    (31)
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    <strong>M</strong>
    <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/338/files#diff-1">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>
    (10)
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<h4>Patch Links:</h4>
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  <li><a href='https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/338.patch'>https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/338.patch</a></li>
  <li><a href='https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/338.diff'>https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/338.diff</a></li>
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ekr commented on this pull request.



> +state necessary to continue with a connection.  In this case, the endpoint will
+include the fields that prove that it originally participated in the connection
+(see {{public-reset-proof}} for details).
+
+Upon receipt of a Public Reset packet that contains a valid proof, an endpoint
+MUST tear down state associated with the connection.  The endpoint MUST then
+cease sending packets on the connection and SHOULD discard any subsequent
+packets that arrive.  A Public Reset that contains an invalid proof MUST be
+ignored.
+
+A Public Reset packet sent by an on-path intermediary will not - and cannot -
+include proof that the sender participated in the initial connection handshake.
+It is sent by a middlebox to notify an endpoint that the path is no longer
+functional.  Such a Public Reset does not include a Public Reset Proof, it
+includes only the connection ID, which provides an assurance that the middlebox
+received packets on the flow.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/335#discussion_r102641505">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +state necessary to continue with a connection.  In this case, the endpoint will
+include the fields that prove that it originally participated in the connection
+(see {{public-reset-proof}} for details).
+
+Upon receipt of a Public Reset packet that contains a valid proof, an endpoint
+MUST tear down state associated with the connection.  The endpoint MUST then
+cease sending packets on the connection and SHOULD discard any subsequent
+packets that arrive.  A Public Reset that contains an invalid proof MUST be
+ignored.
+
+A Public Reset packet sent by an on-path intermediary will not - and cannot -
+include proof that the sender participated in the initial connection handshake.
+It is sent by a middlebox to notify an endpoint that the path is no longer
+functional.  Such a Public Reset does not include a Public Reset Proof, it
+includes only the connection ID, which provides an assurance that the middlebox
+received packets on the flow.
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  Branch: refs/heads/master
  Home:   https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts
  Commit: 4ab99fb767db1bbbcbe0ee916c0c1dd104a1b0c0
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/4ab99fb767db1bbbcbe0ee916c0c1dd104a1b0c0
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-10 (Fri, 10 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-http.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  We don't need no reservations


  Commit: b098fb89faaf4891c2e8236a7437fcbeab675f77
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/b098fb89faaf4891c2e8236a7437fcbeab675f77
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-18 (Sat, 18 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M Makefile
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    M draft-ietf-quic-http.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md
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  Log Message:
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  Merge branch 'master' into no_reservations


  Commit: bddbc4a3914c0460b1c0a3aa63671e7815daa10b
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  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-23 (Thu, 23 Feb 2017)

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  Log Message:
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  Lower-numbered streams need to be in the same direction


  Commit: ec2d4bc2f851b75181a3c4c4cc6085b4e467da68
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  Author: janaiyengar <jri@google.com>
  Date:   2017-02-22 (Wed, 22 Feb 2017)

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  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #280 from quicwg/no_reservations

Remove stream reservation


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> +
+The design of version negotiation permits a server to avoid maintaining state
+for packets that it rejects in this fashion.  However, when the server generates
+a version negotiation packet, it cannot randomly generate a reserved version
+number.  This is because the server is required to include the same value in its
+transport parameters.  To avoid the selected version number changing during
+connection establishment, the reserved version can be generated as a function of
+values that will be available to the server when later generating its handshake
+packets.
+
+A pseudorandom function that takes client address information (IP and port) and
+the client selected version as input would ensure that there is sufficient
+variability in the values that a server uses.
+
+A client MAY send a packet using a reserved version number.  This can be used to
+solicit a list of supported versions from a server.

I like the idea of doing this when there's Alt-Svc with no quic parameter.

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<p><b>@janaiyengar</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/278#discussion_r102649522">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +
+The design of version negotiation permits a server to avoid maintaining state
+for packets that it rejects in this fashion.  However, when the server generates
+a version negotiation packet, it cannot randomly generate a reserved version
+number.  This is because the server is required to include the same value in its
+transport parameters.  To avoid the selected version number changing during
+connection establishment, the reserved version can be generated as a function of
+values that will be available to the server when later generating its handshake
+packets.
+
+A pseudorandom function that takes client address information (IP and port) and
+the client selected version as input would ensure that there is sufficient
+variability in the values that a server uses.
+
+A client MAY send a packet using a reserved version number.  This can be used to
+solicit a list of supported versions from a server.
</pre>
<p>I like the idea of doing this when there's Alt-Svc with no quic parameter.</p>

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  Branch: refs/heads/master
  Home:   https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts
  Commit: d4b44f40a8b070f69995c8f6b8bdde9aa00da49c
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  Grease version negotiation


  Commit: 00cf952634a78e2f565bff71ba0e6e0746e5d5c6
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  Add reference to version validation section


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  Merge pull request #278 from quicwg/grease_version_negotiation

Grease version negotiation


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  Branch: refs/heads/master
  Home:   https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts
  Commit: 60c40650a2c555c349ce474189ef6aa14d7889db
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/60c40650a2c555c349ce474189ef6aa14d7889db
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-23 (Thu, 23 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Expanding and refining source/client address validation


  Commit: c4b1d1947f28ded05037a5e7ef1587a75889cb28
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c4b1d1947f28ded05037a5e7ef1587a75889cb28
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-23 (Thu, 23 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Note that the server sends address validation tokens to itself.  Closes #118.


  Commit: 21b4c6a257eb570c7cc09ebe3f2d4ab16ce13196
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/21b4c6a257eb570c7cc09ebe3f2d4ab16ce13196
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-23 (Thu, 23 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Small refinements


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  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-23 (Thu, 23 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Capitals are great, but not that Good.


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  Add text on interaction between hard-to-guess and integrity checks


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  Use QUIC instead of 'the transport' and provide a code for address validation failure


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  Author: janaiyengar <jri@google.com>
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  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #275 from quicwg/stk_part2

Expand source address validation text


Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/ec2d4bc2f851...ad250216c6d9
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janaiyengar commented on this pull request.

I think we should require a proof that's always possible to generate for a server/on-path-middlebox, and treat them exactly the same at the client. I don't think there's a reason for the client to do anything with a PR that doesn't include a proof if the proof MUST be generated by the server.

>  +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
 ~~~
 {: #public-reset-format title="Public Reset Packet"}
 
+A Public Reset packet is used to abruptly terminate communications.  Public
+Reset is provided as an option of last resort for endpoints that do not have
+access to the state of a connection.  This is intended for use by an endpoint
+that has lost state (for example, through a crash or outage), or middleboxes
+that wish to indicate that a path is no longer usable.
+
+Endpoints that wish to indicate fatal errors with a connection MUST use a
+CONNECTION_CLOSE frame in preference to Public Reset if they have sufficient
+state to do so.
+
+Whether the Public Reset Proof field is included in a Public Reset packet
+depends on the entity that generates the packet.
+
+A Public Reset packet sent by an endpoint indicates that it does not have the
+state necessary to continue with a connection.  In this case, the endpoint will

Suggestion: "... it does not have the state necessary to respond otherwise to the received packet."

> +state necessary to continue with a connection.  In this case, the endpoint will
+include the fields that prove that it originally participated in the connection
+(see {{public-reset-proof}} for details).
+
+Upon receipt of a Public Reset packet that contains a valid proof, an endpoint
+MUST tear down state associated with the connection.  The endpoint MUST then
+cease sending packets on the connection and SHOULD discard any subsequent
+packets that arrive.  A Public Reset that contains an invalid proof MUST be
+ignored.
+
+A Public Reset packet sent by an on-path intermediary will not - and cannot -
+include proof that the sender participated in the initial connection handshake.
+It is sent by a middlebox to notify an endpoint that the path is no longer
+functional.  Such a Public Reset does not include a Public Reset Proof, it
+includes only the connection ID, which provides an assurance that the middlebox
+received packets on the flow.

I think there's an issue in the way this is stated. There's no way for a client to distinguish between a PR generated by a server from that generated by a middlebox. I think all we want to say that a valid PR MUST include proof that the PR was generated in response to a client packet. There's no way to say who's generating this because both middleboxes and "new" servers will know exactly the same things about the packet. (A middlebox may know more about the connection.)

> +
+Upon receipt of a Public Reset packet that contains a valid proof, an endpoint
+MUST tear down state associated with the connection.  The endpoint MUST then
+cease sending packets on the connection and SHOULD discard any subsequent
+packets that arrive.  A Public Reset that contains an invalid proof MUST be
+ignored.
+
+A Public Reset packet sent by an on-path intermediary will not - and cannot -
+include proof that the sender participated in the initial connection handshake.
+It is sent by a middlebox to notify an endpoint that the path is no longer
+functional.  Such a Public Reset does not include a Public Reset Proof, it
+includes only the connection ID, which provides an assurance that the middlebox
+received packets on the flow.
+
+An endpoint MAY ignore a Public Reset that does not include a proof.  A
+middlebox might send a packet in an attempt to attack a connection.  If packets

Earlier text suggests that a middlebox may send a PR, and this suggests that such sending may be an attack. How's a client to know?

> +cease sending packets on the connection and SHOULD discard any subsequent
+packets that arrive.  A Public Reset that contains an invalid proof MUST be
+ignored.
+
+A Public Reset packet sent by an on-path intermediary will not - and cannot -
+include proof that the sender participated in the initial connection handshake.
+It is sent by a middlebox to notify an endpoint that the path is no longer
+functional.  Such a Public Reset does not include a Public Reset Proof, it
+includes only the connection ID, which provides an assurance that the middlebox
+received packets on the flow.
+
+An endpoint MAY ignore a Public Reset that does not include a proof.  A
+middlebox might send a packet in an attempt to attack a connection.  If packets
+continue to arrive after a Public Reset, this could indicate an attack.  Delays
+could mean that a few packets arrive after a Public Reset.  However, if valid
+packets continue to arrive more than twice the RTT variance (see

I don't think this recommendation is appropriate. I'd suggest that we discuss exactly what should happen here in a separate issue. Basically my concern is (i) there's no reason to believe that the server has any packets coming to the client, so waiting for some time may not make any sense, (ii) you could have the client force something by sending a PING frame to the server and then wait an RTO before closing the connection. At this point I think saying something like "a client MAY wait to see if the PR is legitimate" seems adequate.

> +cease sending packets on the connection and SHOULD discard any subsequent
+packets that arrive.  A Public Reset that contains an invalid proof MUST be
+ignored.
+
+A Public Reset packet sent by an on-path intermediary will not - and cannot -
+include proof that the sender participated in the initial connection handshake.
+It is sent by a middlebox to notify an endpoint that the path is no longer
+functional.  Such a Public Reset does not include a Public Reset Proof, it
+includes only the connection ID, which provides an assurance that the middlebox
+received packets on the flow.
+
+An endpoint MAY ignore a Public Reset that does not include a proof.  A
+middlebox might send a packet in an attempt to attack a connection.  If packets
+continue to arrive after a Public Reset, this could indicate an attack.  Delays
+could mean that a few packets arrive after a Public Reset.  However, if valid
+packets continue to arrive more than twice the RTT variance (see

That said, I don't see why a client needs to handle both a PR with proof and without proof. I'd lean towards making a proof mandatory (proof TBD) and then ignore PRs without proof. In my header proposal, the proof is simply the first 8 bytes of the packet.

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<p><b>@janaiyengar</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

<p>I think we should require a proof that's always possible to generate for a server/on-path-middlebox, and treat them exactly the same at the client. I don't think there's a reason for the client to do anything with a PR that doesn't include a proof if the proof MUST be generated by the server.</p><hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/335#discussion_r102650566">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt;  +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
 ~~~
 {: #public-reset-format title=&quot;Public Reset Packet&quot;}
 
+A Public Reset packet is used to abruptly terminate communications.  Public
+Reset is provided as an option of last resort for endpoints that do not have
+access to the state of a connection.  This is intended for use by an endpoint
+that has lost state (for example, through a crash or outage), or middleboxes
+that wish to indicate that a path is no longer usable.
+
+Endpoints that wish to indicate fatal errors with a connection MUST use a
+CONNECTION_CLOSE frame in preference to Public Reset if they have sufficient
+state to do so.
+
+Whether the Public Reset Proof field is included in a Public Reset packet
+depends on the entity that generates the packet.
+
+A Public Reset packet sent by an endpoint indicates that it does not have the
+state necessary to continue with a connection.  In this case, the endpoint will
</pre>
<p>Suggestion: "... it does not have the state necessary to respond otherwise to the received packet."</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/335#discussion_r102651341">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +state necessary to continue with a connection.  In this case, the endpoint will
+include the fields that prove that it originally participated in the connection
+(see {{public-reset-proof}} for details).
+
+Upon receipt of a Public Reset packet that contains a valid proof, an endpoint
+MUST tear down state associated with the connection.  The endpoint MUST then
+cease sending packets on the connection and SHOULD discard any subsequent
+packets that arrive.  A Public Reset that contains an invalid proof MUST be
+ignored.
+
+A Public Reset packet sent by an on-path intermediary will not - and cannot -
+include proof that the sender participated in the initial connection handshake.
+It is sent by a middlebox to notify an endpoint that the path is no longer
+functional.  Such a Public Reset does not include a Public Reset Proof, it
+includes only the connection ID, which provides an assurance that the middlebox
+received packets on the flow.
</pre>
<p>I think there's an issue in the way this is stated. There's no way for a client to distinguish between a PR generated by a server from that generated by a middlebox. I think all we want to say that a valid PR MUST include proof that the PR was generated in response to a client packet. There's no way to say who's generating this because both middleboxes and "new" servers will know exactly the same things about the packet. (A middlebox may know more about the connection.)</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/335#discussion_r102651438">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +
+Upon receipt of a Public Reset packet that contains a valid proof, an endpoint
+MUST tear down state associated with the connection.  The endpoint MUST then
+cease sending packets on the connection and SHOULD discard any subsequent
+packets that arrive.  A Public Reset that contains an invalid proof MUST be
+ignored.
+
+A Public Reset packet sent by an on-path intermediary will not - and cannot -
+include proof that the sender participated in the initial connection handshake.
+It is sent by a middlebox to notify an endpoint that the path is no longer
+functional.  Such a Public Reset does not include a Public Reset Proof, it
+includes only the connection ID, which provides an assurance that the middlebox
+received packets on the flow.
+
+An endpoint MAY ignore a Public Reset that does not include a proof.  A
+middlebox might send a packet in an attempt to attack a connection.  If packets
</pre>
<p>Earlier text suggests that a middlebox may send a PR, and this suggests that such sending may be an attack. How's a client to know?</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/335#discussion_r102651899">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +cease sending packets on the connection and SHOULD discard any subsequent
+packets that arrive.  A Public Reset that contains an invalid proof MUST be
+ignored.
+
+A Public Reset packet sent by an on-path intermediary will not - and cannot -
+include proof that the sender participated in the initial connection handshake.
+It is sent by a middlebox to notify an endpoint that the path is no longer
+functional.  Such a Public Reset does not include a Public Reset Proof, it
+includes only the connection ID, which provides an assurance that the middlebox
+received packets on the flow.
+
+An endpoint MAY ignore a Public Reset that does not include a proof.  A
+middlebox might send a packet in an attempt to attack a connection.  If packets
+continue to arrive after a Public Reset, this could indicate an attack.  Delays
+could mean that a few packets arrive after a Public Reset.  However, if valid
+packets continue to arrive more than twice the RTT variance (see
</pre>
<p>I don't think this recommendation is appropriate. I'd suggest that we discuss exactly what should happen here in a separate issue. Basically my concern is (i) there's no reason to believe that the server has any packets coming to the client, so waiting for some time may not make any sense, (ii) you could have the client force something by sending a PING frame to the server and then wait an RTO before closing the connection. At this point I think saying something like "a client MAY wait to see if the PR is legitimate" seems adequate.</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/335#discussion_r102652228">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +cease sending packets on the connection and SHOULD discard any subsequent
+packets that arrive.  A Public Reset that contains an invalid proof MUST be
+ignored.
+
+A Public Reset packet sent by an on-path intermediary will not - and cannot -
+include proof that the sender participated in the initial connection handshake.
+It is sent by a middlebox to notify an endpoint that the path is no longer
+functional.  Such a Public Reset does not include a Public Reset Proof, it
+includes only the connection ID, which provides an assurance that the middlebox
+received packets on the flow.
+
+An endpoint MAY ignore a Public Reset that does not include a proof.  A
+middlebox might send a packet in an attempt to attack a connection.  If packets
+continue to arrive after a Public Reset, this could indicate an attack.  Delays
+could mean that a few packets arrive after a Public Reset.  However, if valid
+packets continue to arrive more than twice the RTT variance (see
</pre>
<p>That said, I don't see why a client needs to handle both a PR with proof and without proof. I'd lean towards making a proof mandatory (proof TBD) and then ignore PRs without proof. In my header proposal, the proof is simply the first 8 bytes of the packet.</p>

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janaiyengar commented on this pull request.



> @@ -1266,6 +1266,42 @@ actual exponent is one-less than the explicit exponent, and the value represents
 4096 microseconds.  Any values larger than the representable range are clamped
 to 0xFFFF.
 
+
+### ACK Frames and Packet Protection
+
+ACK frames that acknowledge protected packets MUST be carried in a packet that
+has an equivalent level of packet protection.  Functionally, this means:
+
+* Unprotected packets, such as those that carry the initial cryptographic
+  handshake messages, can be acknowledged in unprotected packets.  This has

I don't understand why this text says they "can" be acked in unprotected packets. Shouldn't we require that they MUST?

> @@ -1266,6 +1266,42 @@ actual exponent is one-less than the explicit exponent, and the value represents
 4096 microseconds.  Any values larger than the representable range are clamped
 to 0xFFFF.
 
+
+### ACK Frames and Packet Protection
+
+ACK frames that acknowledge protected packets MUST be carried in a packet that
+has an equivalent level of packet protection.  Functionally, this means:
+
+* Unprotected packets, such as those that carry the initial cryptographic
+  handshake messages, can be acknowledged in unprotected packets.  This has
+  several consequences:
+
+  * Acknowledgments for packets containing cryptographic handshake messages
+    SHOULD be included in packets carrying the next cryptographic handshake

I don't think this SHOULD is necessary at all. The receiver can just as well sent these in two packets.

> +
+ACK frames that acknowledge protected packets MUST be carried in a packet that
+has an equivalent level of packet protection.  Functionally, this means:
+
+* Unprotected packets, such as those that carry the initial cryptographic
+  handshake messages, can be acknowledged in unprotected packets.  This has
+  several consequences:
+
+  * Acknowledgments for packets containing cryptographic handshake messages
+    SHOULD be included in packets carrying the next cryptographic handshake
+    message.  For instance, a server can acknowledge a TLS ClientHello in the
+    packet that carries the TLS ServerHello; similarly, a client can acknowledge
+    a TLS HelloRetryRequest in the packet containing a second TLS ClientHello.
+
+  * The initial set of server handshake messages, which could span multiple
+    packets, SHOULD be acknowledged in unprotected packets even if the client

SHOULD --> MUST ?

> +    uses 0-RTT keys to protect other packets that are sent at the same time.  A
+    server might decide to reject and ignore 0-RTT data, making it unable to use
+    any acknowledgments that are protected with 0-RTT keys.
+
+* Packets that a client sends with 0-RTT packet protection MUST be acknowledged
+  by the server in packets protected by 1-RTT keys.  This can mean that the
+  client is unable to use these acknowledgments if the server cryptographic
+  handshake messages are delayed or lost.  However, the same limitation applies
+  to other data sent by the server protected by the 1-RTT keys.
+
+* Packets that are protected with 1-RTT keys MUST be acknowledged in packets
+  that are also protected with 1-RTT keys.
+
+A packet that is not protected and claims to acknowledge a packet number that
+was sent with packet protection is not valid.  An unprotected packet that
+carries acknowledgments for protected packets MUST be discarded in its entirety.

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<p><b>@janaiyengar</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/336#discussion_r102652562">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -1266,6 +1266,42 @@ actual exponent is one-less than the explicit exponent, and the value represents
 4096 microseconds.  Any values larger than the representable range are clamped
 to 0xFFFF.
 
+
+### ACK Frames and Packet Protection
+
+ACK frames that acknowledge protected packets MUST be carried in a packet that
+has an equivalent level of packet protection.  Functionally, this means:
+
+* Unprotected packets, such as those that carry the initial cryptographic
+  handshake messages, can be acknowledged in unprotected packets.  This has
</pre>
<p>I don't understand why this text says they "can" be acked in unprotected packets. Shouldn't we require that they MUST?</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/336#discussion_r102652612">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -1266,6 +1266,42 @@ actual exponent is one-less than the explicit exponent, and the value represents
 4096 microseconds.  Any values larger than the representable range are clamped
 to 0xFFFF.
 
+
+### ACK Frames and Packet Protection
+
+ACK frames that acknowledge protected packets MUST be carried in a packet that
+has an equivalent level of packet protection.  Functionally, this means:
+
+* Unprotected packets, such as those that carry the initial cryptographic
+  handshake messages, can be acknowledged in unprotected packets.  This has
+  several consequences:
+
+  * Acknowledgments for packets containing cryptographic handshake messages
+    SHOULD be included in packets carrying the next cryptographic handshake
</pre>
<p>I don't think this SHOULD is necessary at all. The receiver can just as well sent these in two packets.</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/336#discussion_r102652780">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +
+ACK frames that acknowledge protected packets MUST be carried in a packet that
+has an equivalent level of packet protection.  Functionally, this means:
+
+* Unprotected packets, such as those that carry the initial cryptographic
+  handshake messages, can be acknowledged in unprotected packets.  This has
+  several consequences:
+
+  * Acknowledgments for packets containing cryptographic handshake messages
+    SHOULD be included in packets carrying the next cryptographic handshake
+    message.  For instance, a server can acknowledge a TLS ClientHello in the
+    packet that carries the TLS ServerHello; similarly, a client can acknowledge
+    a TLS HelloRetryRequest in the packet containing a second TLS ClientHello.
+
+  * The initial set of server handshake messages, which could span multiple
+    packets, SHOULD be acknowledged in unprotected packets even if the client
</pre>
<p>SHOULD --&gt; MUST ?</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/336#discussion_r102652955">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +    uses 0-RTT keys to protect other packets that are sent at the same time.  A
+    server might decide to reject and ignore 0-RTT data, making it unable to use
+    any acknowledgments that are protected with 0-RTT keys.
+
+* Packets that a client sends with 0-RTT packet protection MUST be acknowledged
+  by the server in packets protected by 1-RTT keys.  This can mean that the
+  client is unable to use these acknowledgments if the server cryptographic
+  handshake messages are delayed or lost.  However, the same limitation applies
+  to other data sent by the server protected by the 1-RTT keys.
+
+* Packets that are protected with 1-RTT keys MUST be acknowledged in packets
+  that are also protected with 1-RTT keys.
+
+A packet that is not protected and claims to acknowledge a packet number that
+was sent with packet protection is not valid.  An unprotected packet that
+carries acknowledgments for protected packets MUST be discarded in its entirety.
</pre>
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janaiyengar commented on this pull request.



> @@ -487,6 +487,29 @@ version of TLS.  An endpoint MUST terminate the connection if a version of TLS
 older than 1.3 is negotiated.
 
 
+## ClientHello Size
+
+QUIC requires that the initial handshake packet from a client fit within a
+single packet of 1280 octets.  With framing and packet overheads this value
+could be reduced.
+
+A TLS ClientHello can fit within this limit with ample space remaining.
+However, there are several variables that could cause this limit to be exceeded.
+Implementations are reminded that large session tickets or HelloRetryRequest
+cookies, multiple or large key shares, and long lists of supported ciphers,
+signature algorithms, versions, and other negotiable parameters and extensions
+could cause this message to grow.

This also needs to inclde the transport params, right?

> @@ -1223,11 +1246,11 @@ by an attacker.
 Certificate caching {{?RFC7924}} can reduce the size of the server's handshake
 messages significantly.
 
-A client SHOULD also pad {{!RFC7685}} its ClientHello to at least 1024 octets.
+QUIC requires that the packet containing a ClientHello be padded to 1280 octets.

"at least 1280 octets"

> @@ -697,6 +697,16 @@ the cryptographic handshake provides QUIC with:
   client can receive packets that are addressed with the transport address that
   is claimed by the client (see {{source-address-token}})
 
+The initial cryptographic handshake message needs to be sent in a single packet.
+This avoids having to reassemble a message from multiple packets. This would
+require that servers maintain state prior to establishing a connection, exposing
+servers to a denial of service risk.

Phrasing unclear. How about "This avoids having to reassemble a message from multiple packets since doing so would require that a server maintain state prior to establishing a connection, exposing the server to a denial of service risk."

> @@ -697,6 +697,16 @@ the cryptographic handshake provides QUIC with:
   client can receive packets that are addressed with the transport address that
   is claimed by the client (see {{source-address-token}})
 
+The initial cryptographic handshake message needs to be sent in a single packet.
+This avoids having to reassemble a message from multiple packets. This would
+require that servers maintain state prior to establishing a connection, exposing
+servers to a denial of service risk.
+
+The first client packet of the cryptographic handshake protocol MUST fit within
+a 1280 octet QUIC packet.  this includes overheads that reduce the space

I don't think we're requiring 1280 bytes, just that it fit within a packet, right? We talk about MTU elsewhere, how about just saying that this packet MUST fit within a single QUIC packet, assuming that the packet is MTU-sized or smaller?

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<p><b>@janaiyengar</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/338#discussion_r102653204">draft-ietf-quic-tls.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -487,6 +487,29 @@ version of TLS.  An endpoint MUST terminate the connection if a version of TLS
 older than 1.3 is negotiated.
 
 
+## ClientHello Size
+
+QUIC requires that the initial handshake packet from a client fit within a
+single packet of 1280 octets.  With framing and packet overheads this value
+could be reduced.
+
+A TLS ClientHello can fit within this limit with ample space remaining.
+However, there are several variables that could cause this limit to be exceeded.
+Implementations are reminded that large session tickets or HelloRetryRequest
+cookies, multiple or large key shares, and long lists of supported ciphers,
+signature algorithms, versions, and other negotiable parameters and extensions
+could cause this message to grow.
</pre>
<p>This also needs to inclde the transport params, right?</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/338#discussion_r102653253">draft-ietf-quic-tls.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -1223,11 +1246,11 @@ by an attacker.
 Certificate caching {{?RFC7924}} can reduce the size of the server&#39;s handshake
 messages significantly.
 
-A client SHOULD also pad {{!RFC7685}} its ClientHello to at least 1024 octets.
+QUIC requires that the packet containing a ClientHello be padded to 1280 octets.
</pre>
<p>"at least 1280 octets"</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/338#discussion_r102653503">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -697,6 +697,16 @@ the cryptographic handshake provides QUIC with:
   client can receive packets that are addressed with the transport address that
   is claimed by the client (see {{source-address-token}})
 
+The initial cryptographic handshake message needs to be sent in a single packet.
+This avoids having to reassemble a message from multiple packets. This would
+require that servers maintain state prior to establishing a connection, exposing
+servers to a denial of service risk.
</pre>
<p>Phrasing unclear. How about "This avoids having to reassemble a message from multiple packets since doing so would require that a server maintain state prior to establishing a connection, exposing the server to a denial of service risk."</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/338#discussion_r102653712">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -697,6 +697,16 @@ the cryptographic handshake provides QUIC with:
   client can receive packets that are addressed with the transport address that
   is claimed by the client (see {{source-address-token}})
 
+The initial cryptographic handshake message needs to be sent in a single packet.
+This avoids having to reassemble a message from multiple packets. This would
+require that servers maintain state prior to establishing a connection, exposing
+servers to a denial of service risk.
+
+The first client packet of the cryptographic handshake protocol MUST fit within
+a 1280 octet QUIC packet.  this includes overheads that reduce the space
</pre>
<p>I don't think we're requiring 1280 bytes, just that it fit within a packet, right? We talk about MTU elsewhere, how about just saying that this packet MUST fit within a single QUIC packet, assuming that the packet is MTU-sized or smaller?</p>

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> @@ -73,9 +73,11 @@ informative:
     title: "Structured Streams: A New Transport Abstraction"
     author:
       - ins: B. Ford
-    date: 2007-08
+    date: 2007-10

This is odd. This depends on how you write the ref. SIGCOMM was in Aug 2007, the current citation could say Proceedings of ACM SIGCOMM, August 2007.  ACM CCR carries all SIGCOMM publications in the next issue, as a special issue, which must have come out in Oct 2007. I'd keep the Proceedings date, since that's what's usually used.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/333#discussion_r102654104">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -73,9 +73,11 @@ informative:
     title: &quot;Structured Streams: A New Transport Abstraction&quot;
     author:
       - ins: B. Ford
-    date: 2007-08
+    date: 2007-10
</pre>
<p>This is odd. This depends on how you write the ref. SIGCOMM was in Aug 2007, the current citation could say Proceedings of ACM SIGCOMM, August 2007.  ACM CCR carries all SIGCOMM publications in the next issue, as a special issue, which must have come out in Oct 2007. I'd keep the Proceedings date, since that's what's usually used.</p>

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> @@ -73,9 +73,11 @@ informative:
     title: "Structured Streams: A New Transport Abstraction"
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-    date: 2007-08
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Yeah, if you cite it as "proceedings", you cite the conference date. If you cite it as published in CCR, you cite the issue publication date.


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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/333#discussion_r102659071">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -73,9 +73,11 @@ informative:
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<p>Yeah, if you cite it as "proceedings", you cite the conference date. If you cite it as published in CCR, you cite the issue publication date.</p>

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This is probably going to be the first limit that a connection will hit, not the packet ids limit.
We could also scale the offset, I do not think that the update needs to be per byte, it can be 1000Bytes as well. I do not think that we need granularity of a byte.

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> @@ -73,9 +73,11 @@ informative:
     title: "Structured Streams: A New Transport Abstraction"
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-    date: 2007-08
+    date: 2007-10

Inspired by this, I learned a new appreciation (read: loathing) for ruby in the course of adding DOI support to kramdown.  It ended up consequential to solving a bunch of other problems.

See https://github.com/cabo/kramdown-rfc2629/pull/35

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/333#discussion_r102690980">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -73,9 +73,11 @@ informative:
     title: &quot;Structured Streams: A New Transport Abstraction&quot;
     author:
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-    date: 2007-08
+    date: 2007-10
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<p>Inspired by this, I learned a new appreciation (read: loathing) for ruby in the course of adding DOI support to kramdown.  It ended up consequential to solving a bunch of other problems.</p>
<p>See <a href="https://github.com/cabo/kramdown-rfc2629/pull/35" class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-url="https://github.com/cabo/kramdown-rfc2629/issues/35" data-id="209729346" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-permission-text="Issue title is private">cabo/kramdown-rfc2629#35</a></p>

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  Branch: refs/heads/kramdown_xref_label
  Home:   https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts
  Commit: f138a1e9085af76463243df73e2be9a369e14092
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/f138a1e9085af76463243df73e2be9a369e14092
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-23 (Thu, 23 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

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  Prepare for the ability to add symbolic labels to references in kramdown.



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This depends on https://github.com/cabo/kramdown-rfc2629/pull/35, so it won't build right now.
You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/339

-- Commit Summary --

  * Prepare for the ability to add symbolic labels to references in kramdown.

-- File Changes --

    M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md (10)
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (13)

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<p>This depends on <a href="https://github.com/cabo/kramdown-rfc2629/pull/35" class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-url="https://github.com/cabo/kramdown-rfc2629/issues/35" data-id="209729346" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-permission-text="Issue title is private">cabo/kramdown-rfc2629#35</a>, so it won't build right now.</p>

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<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href='https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/339'>https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/339</a></p>

<h4>Commit Summary</h4>
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  <li>Prepare for the ability to add symbolic labels to references in kramdown.</li>
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<h4>File Changes</h4>
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    <strong>M</strong>
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    <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/339/files#diff-1">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>
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<h4>Patch Links:</h4>
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I agree, this is almost certainly the first limit we'll hit at this point.

Scaling by 1024 or a similar value seems reasonable.

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<p>I agree, this is almost certainly the first limit we'll hit at this point.</p>
<p>Scaling by 1024 or a similar value seems reasonable.</p>

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Crazy idea alert: what is the value of having a separate CONNECTION_CLOSE frame at all, rather than adding an error code to Public Reset and doing all abrupt termination that way?

If the Reset is lost, the next packet from the peer will be for an unknown connection ID and trigger a Public Reset anyway. So reliablility isn't a big issue.

Pros: - It's simpler
-solves the problem of telling middleboxes when to delete their state.

Cons: 
- If the peer is idle for a long time after a lost Public Reset, it could maintain connection state for quite a while, whereas a retransmitted CONNECTION_CLOSE would have closed everything out. But with PING et al  this is probably rare.
- You need some kind of limiter to avoid a window of packets coming from the peer resulting in a storm of Public Resets. But we already have to deal with this in TCP (and will have to in other QUIC scenarios) and it seems to work OK.

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<p>Crazy idea alert: what is the value of having a separate CONNECTION_CL=
OSE frame at all, rather than adding an error code to Public Reset and do=
ing all abrupt termination that way?</p>
<p>If the Reset is lost, the next packet from the peer will be for an unk=
nown connection ID and trigger a Public Reset anyway. So reliablility isn=
't a big issue.</p>
<p>Pros: - It's simpler<br>
-solves the problem of telling middleboxes when to delete their state.</p=
>
<p>Cons:</p>
<ul>
<li>If the peer is idle for a long time after a lost Public Reset, it cou=
ld maintain connection state for quite a while, whereas a retransmitted C=
ONNECTION_CLOSE would have closed everything out. But with PING et al  th=
is is probably rare.</li>
<li>You need some kind of limiter to avoid a window of packets coming fro=
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deal with this in TCP (and will have to in other QUIC scenarios) and it s=
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So the idea would be more like:

  *   GOAWAY =3D> no new streams created =E2=80=93 connection is terminal=

  *   Service all existing streams
  *   When the last stream closes and all data is ACK=E2=80=99d, discard =
your state and close silently
For abrupt departures, use a Public Reset instead?

Or are you suggesting that rather than closing silently, endpoints should=
 emit a Public Reset packet once they=E2=80=99re totally done, and that=E2=
=80=99s the middleboxes=E2=80=99 signal to tear down state?

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Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Add real text on error handling (#335)


Crazy idea alert: what is the value of having a separate CONNECTION_CLOSE=
 frame at all, rather than adding an error code to Public Reset and doing=
 all abrupt termination that way?

If the Reset is lost, the next packet from the peer will be for an unknow=
n connection ID and trigger a Public Reset anyway. So reliablility isn't =
a big issue.

Pros: - It's simpler
-solves the problem of telling middleboxes when to delete their state.

Cons:

  *   If the peer is idle for a long time after a lost Public Reset, it c=
ould maintain connection state for quite a while, whereas a retransmitted=
 CONNECTION_CLOSE would have closed everything out. But with PING et al t=
his is probably rare.
  *   You need some kind of limiter to avoid a window of packets coming f=
rom the peer resulting in a storm of Public Resets. But we already have t=
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So the idea would be more like:
<br>

<br>
  *   GOAWAY =3D&gt; no new streams created =E2=80=93 connection is termi=
nal
<br>
  *   Service all existing streams
<br>
  *   When the last stream closes and all data is ACK=E2=80=99d, discard =
your state and close silently
<br>
For abrupt departures, use a Public Reset instead?
<br>

<br>
Or are you suggesting that rather than closing silently, endpoints should=
 emit a Public Reset packet once they=E2=80=99re totally done, and that=E2=
=80=99s the middleboxes=E2=80=99 signal to tear down state?
<br>

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Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Add real text on error handling (#335)
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Crazy idea alert: what is the value of having a separate CONNECTION_CLOSE=
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 all abrupt termination that way?
<br>

<br>
If the Reset is lost, the next packet from the peer will be for an unknow=
n connection ID and trigger a Public Reset anyway. So reliablility isn&#3=
9;t a big issue.
<br>

<br>
Pros: - It&#39;s simpler
<br>
-solves the problem of telling middleboxes when to delete their state.
<br>

<br>
Cons:
<br>

<br>
  *   If the peer is idle for a long time after a lost Public Reset, it c=
ould maintain connection state for quite a while, whereas a retransmitted=
 CONNECTION_CLOSE would have closed everything out. But with PING et al t=
his is probably rare.
<br>
  *   You need some kind of limiter to avoid a window of packets coming f=
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Well this suggestion was focused on the abrupt termination case that Martin
T. outlines in the PR.

I am not sure at all where we have landed on what a clean close looks like,
but it seems like the messages prior to CONNECTION_CLOSE are doing all the
work. Sending a public reset when all that stuff is done would certainly
help.

On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 12:28 PM, Mike Bishop <notifications@github.com>
wrote:

> So the idea would be more like:
>
> * GOAWAY =3D> no new streams created =E2=80=93 connection is terminal
> * Service all existing streams
> * When the last stream closes and all data is ACK=E2=80=99d, discard your=
 state
> and close silently
> For abrupt departures, use a Public Reset instead?
>
> Or are you suggesting that rather than closing silently, endpoints should
> emit a Public Reset packet once they=E2=80=99re totally done, and that=E2=
=80=99s the
> middleboxes=E2=80=99 signal to tear down state?
>
> From: martinduke [mailto:notifications@github.com]
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> Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Add real text on error handling (#335)
>
>
> Crazy idea alert: what is the value of having a separate CONNECTION_CLOSE
> frame at all, rather than adding an error code to Public Reset and doing
> all abrupt termination that way?
>
> If the Reset is lost, the next packet from the peer will be for an unknown
> connection ID and trigger a Public Reset anyway. So reliablility isn't a
> big issue.
>
> Pros: - It's simpler
> -solves the problem of telling middleboxes when to delete their state.
>
> Cons:
>
> * If the peer is idle for a long time after a lost Public Reset, it could
> maintain connection state for quite a while, whereas a retransmitted
> CONNECTION_CLOSE would have closed everything out. But with PING et al th=
is
> is probably rare.
> * You need some kind of limiter to avoid a window of packets coming from
> the peer resulting in a storm of Public Resets. But we already have to de=
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Well this suggestion was focused on the abrupt termination case that Martin=
<br>
T. outlines in the PR.<br>
<br>
I am not sure at all where we have landed on what a clean close looks like,=
<br>
but it seems like the messages prior to CONNECTION_CLOSE are doing all the<=
br>
work. Sending a public reset when all that stuff is done would certainly<br>
help.<br>
<br>
On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 12:28 PM, Mike Bishop &lt;notifications@github.com&=
gt;<br>
wrote:<br>
<br>
&gt; So the idea would be more like:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; * GOAWAY =3D&gt; no new streams created =E2=80=93 connection is termin=
al<br>
&gt; * Service all existing streams<br>
&gt; * When the last stream closes and all data is ACK=E2=80=99d, discard y=
our state<br>
&gt; and close silently<br>
&gt; For abrupt departures, use a Public Reset instead?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Or are you suggesting that rather than closing silently, endpoints sho=
uld<br>
&gt; emit a Public Reset packet once they=E2=80=99re totally done, and that=
=E2=80=99s the<br>
&gt; middleboxes=E2=80=99 signal to tear down state?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; From: martinduke [mailto:notifications@github.com]<br>
&gt; Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 12:23 PM<br>
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&gt; comment@noreply.github.com&gt;<br>
&gt; Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Add real text on error handling (#33=
5)<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Crazy idea alert: what is the value of having a separate CONNECTION_CL=
OSE<br>
&gt; frame at all, rather than adding an error code to Public Reset and doi=
ng<br>
&gt; all abrupt termination that way?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; If the Reset is lost, the next packet from the peer will be for an unk=
nown<br>
&gt; connection ID and trigger a Public Reset anyway. So reliablility isn&#=
39;t a<br>
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&gt;<br>
&gt; Pros: - It&#39;s simpler<br>
&gt; -solves the problem of telling middleboxes when to delete their state.=
<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Cons:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; * If the peer is idle for a long time after a lost Public Reset, it co=
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&gt; maintain connection state for quite a while, whereas a retransmitted<b=
r>
&gt; CONNECTION_CLOSE would have closed everything out. But with PING et al=
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&gt; * You need some kind of limiter to avoid a window of packets coming fr=
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To expand on the clean-connection case a bit more, I am not sure we have designed a mechanism that assures both sides that both sides have delivered all desired data. (we are hurting for a clean-close connection state machine).

I believe that if we repurposed CONNECTION_CLOSE to say "You have acknowledged everything I intended to send", and made both sides send it, that would solve the problem. This would also require not overloading CONNECTION_CLOSE with abrupt termination purposes, as I describe above.

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<p>To expand on the clean-connection case a bit more, I am not sure we ha=
ve designed a mechanism that assures both sides that both sides have deli=
vered all desired data. (we are hurting for a clean-close connection stat=
e machine).</p>
<p>I believe that if we repurposed CONNECTION_CLOSE to say "You have ackn=
owledged everything I intended to send", and made both sides send it, tha=
t would solve the problem. This would also require not overloading CONNEC=
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@ddragana observes that the 64-bit offset value in the WINDOW_UPDATE message is probably the first value that we will run out of (over packet numbers and stream numbers, which should last a bit longer in most cases).  We could avoid this by multiplying these values by a constant (she suggests 1024), which would reduce the granularity with which flow control credits could be granted, but increase the total lifetime of a long-lived connection.

So, trade-off time.  The scaling multiplier is now 1.  A larger value allows for longer-lived connections, a shorter value allows finer control over flow control.  I'd suggest that values in the order of 8 are probably easy to justify, can we go as high as 1024?

We could also choose a different value for the connection and stream flow control offsets on that basis that connections need more octets, whereas streams do not.

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<p><a href="https://github.com/ddragana" class="user-mention">@ddragana</a> observes that the 64-bit offset value in the WINDOW_UPDATE message is probably the first value that we will run out of (over packet numbers and stream numbers, which should last a bit longer in most cases).  We could avoid this by multiplying these values by a constant (she suggests 1024), which would reduce the granularity with which flow control credits could be granted, but increase the total lifetime of a long-lived connection.</p>
<p>So, trade-off time.  The scaling multiplier is now 1.  A larger value allows for longer-lived connections, a shorter value allows finer control over flow control.  I'd suggest that values in the order of 8 are probably easy to justify, can we go as high as 1024?</p>
<p>We could also choose a different value for the connection and stream flow control offsets on that basis that connections need more octets, whereas streams do not.</p>

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We're starting to see a few cases where ACK frames are being used to close the loop on things.  But that raises questions like "if a peer acknowledges a packet containing a GOAWAY, does that mean I can assume that stream above the mentioned number are now closed at their end?"

I think that we need to state what the rule is, and it should be simple.  An acknowledgement for a packet implies that all QUIC-level control messages have been read and processed.

This includes PING, ACK, RST_STREAM, GOAWAY, etc...  I think that it also has to include FIN bits on STREAM frames.  That implies that the *transport* must have finished handling all the messages.

The application protocol might not have consumed the data from STREAM frames, but that is the only thing that is considered outstanding when a packet is acknowledged.  We have a special sort of acknowledgment for data: flow control credits.

If we add features that include special acknowledgement (like flow control), then those would be excluded, but that would be explicitly stated.  Otherwise, if it is in the transport and it is acknowledged, then it has been processed by the receiver.

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<p>We're starting to see a few cases where ACK frames are being used to close the loop on things.  But that raises questions like "if a peer acknowledges a packet containing a GOAWAY, does that mean I can assume that stream above the mentioned number are now closed at their end?"</p>
<p>I think that we need to state what the rule is, and it should be simple.  An acknowledgement for a packet implies that all QUIC-level control messages have been read and processed.</p>
<p>This includes PING, ACK, RST_STREAM, GOAWAY, etc...  I think that it also has to include FIN bits on STREAM frames.  That implies that the <em>transport</em> must have finished handling all the messages.</p>
<p>The application protocol might not have consumed the data from STREAM frames, but that is the only thing that is considered outstanding when a packet is acknowledged.  We have a special sort of acknowledgment for data: flow control credits.</p>
<p>If we add features that include special acknowledgement (like flow control), then those would be excluded, but that would be explicitly stated.  Otherwise, if it is in the transport and it is acknowledged, then it has been processed by the receiver.</p>

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  Branch: refs/heads/request_rst
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I think stream frames and FIN bits are a maybe in my mind, but I definitely agree on processing control frames.

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<p>I think stream frames and FIN bits are a maybe in my mind, but I definitely agree on processing control frames.</p>

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FIN bits are already special-cased -- you can't effect the stream state change until you've gotten all STREAM frames on that stream.  And they're flags on a STREAM frame, so if we say that STREAM frames aren't part of this, FIN flags are implicitly included.

I would favor stating that *all* frames have been processed, but clarify that means the STREAM frames have been queued for delivery with no guarantees about having actually delivering them.  (And being queued also doesn't guarantee much if there are gaps.)  Alternately, state that everything except the STREAM frames have been processed.

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So it seems like there are a couple stages here, and it depends how far we're willing to go.

1. A QUIC stream is bidirectional, and moves through a state machine of (idle,active,half-closed local/remote,fully-closed)
2. A QUIC stream consists of a pair of opposite-direction channels, each of which moves through the (idle,active,closed) cycle independently.
3. QUIC streams in each direction are fully independent, move through a state machine of (idle,active,closed), and any relationship between streams in opposite directions is defined by the application protocol.

Option 1 is the status quo.  I strongly support moving at least to Option 2 for the simpler state management.  Note that Option 2 still requires that we retain the concept of client-initiated and server-initiated streams.

Option 3 is a possibility, but requires much more change to the application layer from what we currently deal with.  It has some interesting possibilities, though.

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<p>So it seems like there are a couple stages here, and it depends how far =
we're willing to go.</p>
<ol>
<li>A QUIC stream is bidirectional, and moves through a state machine of (i=
dle,active,half-closed local/remote,fully-closed)</li>
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f which moves through the (idle,active,closed) cycle independently.</li>
<li>QUIC streams in each direction are fully independent, move through a st=
ate machine of (idle,active,closed), and any relationship between streams i=
n opposite directions is defined by the application protocol.</li>
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<p>Option 1 is the status quo.  I strongly support moving at least to Optio=
n 2 for the simpler state management.  Note that Option 2 still requires th=
at we retain the concept of client-initiated and server-initiated streams.<=
/p>
<p>Option 3 is a possibility, but requires much more change to the applicat=
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I think that Mike's view here is best.  That is, you have to have ingested all the frames in the packet before acknowledging.  For data on a stream, that means putting it into a buffer, but it also means that you might transition the stream to closed if all the data is in.

I'd rather have that and allow an endpoint to *know* that a completely delivered stream no longer counts against the concurrent stream limit.  Creating an exemption for STREAM frames leaves a messy hole.

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@martinthomson pushed 1 commit.

29bbe2a  Restructure section to better address some of the concerns and add some explanation


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<p><a href="https://github.com/martinthomson" class="user-mention">@martinthomson</a> pushed 1 commit.</p>

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I think that I agree, I'm fairly confident that we could move to option 2 (coupled pairs of streams) without a lot of pain.  The only binding we would need is that opening a stream in one direction opens a stream in the other direction.  We'd want REQUEST_RST, or DISINTEREST or something to allow an endpoint to request that an inbound channel be cancelled.  I think that we want that functionality anyway.

Option 3 would require some extra signaling in the application protocol to properly realize, but it has some properties that I think are fascinating.  The ramifications for push and stream limits and asymmetry remain interesting despite the apparent risks and uncertainty.  The worst so far doesn't relate to asymmetry as much as it does to having an unbounded number of server pushes arriving at a client with only the connection flow control window to limit them.  In some ways, that's an exciting prospect and I think that I like it, but I can also appreciate how some people might be scared by the notion.

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Agreed, you must have ingested all frames in a packet before acking it.  We had subtly different behavior early on in QUIC and it was an enormous and unnecessary complication.

My comment about the fin bit and stream frames possibly not being included was because other stream frames may not have arrived, and that when a packet is acked, that doesn't change available flow control window.

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<p>Agreed, you must have ingested all frames in a packet before acking it. =
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<p>My comment about the fin bit and stream frames possibly not being includ=
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martinthomson commented on this pull request.



> @@ -697,6 +697,16 @@ the cryptographic handshake provides QUIC with:
   client can receive packets that are addressed with the transport address that
   is claimed by the client (see {{source-address-token}})
 
+The initial cryptographic handshake message needs to be sent in a single packet.
+This avoids having to reassemble a message from multiple packets. This would
+require that servers maintain state prior to establishing a connection, exposing
+servers to a denial of service risk.
+
+The first client packet of the cryptographic handshake protocol MUST fit within
+a 1280 octet QUIC packet.  this includes overheads that reduce the space

Well, we can't exclude implementations that choose to only send 1280 octet packets.  That would be unwise, I think.  This is MORE strict, I agree, but I think that we want to specifically exclude handshake packets that exceed this or we will find that they aren't properly applicable across multiple networks and use cases.  

If a handshake packet grows too much, then we limit this to networks that can handle a larger MTU.  Given that we don't need the space right now, this seems like a constraint that won't be hard to meet.

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<p><b>@martinthomson</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/338#discussion_r102855555">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -697,6 +697,16 @@ the cryptographic handshake provides QUIC with:
   client can receive packets that are addressed with the transport address that
   is claimed by the client (see {{source-address-token}})
 
+The initial cryptographic handshake message needs to be sent in a single packet.
+This avoids having to reassemble a message from multiple packets. This would
+require that servers maintain state prior to establishing a connection, exposing
+servers to a denial of service risk.
+
+The first client packet of the cryptographic handshake protocol MUST fit within
+a 1280 octet QUIC packet.  this includes overheads that reduce the space
</pre>
<p>Well, we can't exclude implementations that choose to only send 1280 octet packets.  That would be unwise, I think.  This is MORE strict, I agree, but I think that we want to specifically exclude handshake packets that exceed this or we will find that they aren't properly applicable across multiple networks and use cases.</p>
<p>If a handshake packet grows too much, then we limit this to networks that can handle a larger MTU.  Given that we don't need the space right now, this seems like a constraint that won't be hard to meet.</p>

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It'd be nice to have an implementation of option 3 before heading that direction, given it's a large departure from the status quo.  But I won't disagree with it's appeal for cases like server push.

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<p>It'd be nice to have an implementation of option 3 before heading that direction, given it's a large departure from the status quo.  But I won't disagree with it's appeal for cases like server push.</p>

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  Branch: refs/heads/one_packet_hello
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  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-24 (Fri, 24 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
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> @@ -1266,6 +1266,42 @@ actual exponent is one-less than the explicit exponent, and the value represents
 4096 microseconds.  Any values larger than the representable range are clamped
 to 0xFFFF.
 
+
+### ACK Frames and Packet Protection
+
+ACK frames that acknowledge protected packets MUST be carried in a packet that
+has an equivalent level of packet protection.  Functionally, this means:
+
+* Unprotected packets, such as those that carry the initial cryptographic
+  handshake messages, can be acknowledged in unprotected packets.  This has

I didn't want to insist that they be acknowledged in unprotected packets.  For instance, the client sends a Finished message unprotected, followed by a bunch of protected packets.  It should be possible to send a single protected acknowledgement for all of those packets.

> @@ -1266,6 +1266,42 @@ actual exponent is one-less than the explicit exponent, and the value represents
 4096 microseconds.  Any values larger than the representable range are clamped
 to 0xFFFF.
 
+
+### ACK Frames and Packet Protection
+
+ACK frames that acknowledge protected packets MUST be carried in a packet that
+has an equivalent level of packet protection.  Functionally, this means:
+
+* Unprotected packets, such as those that carry the initial cryptographic
+  handshake messages, can be acknowledged in unprotected packets.  This has
+  several consequences:
+
+  * Acknowledgments for packets containing cryptographic handshake messages
+    SHOULD be included in packets carrying the next cryptographic handshake

Why send two unprotected packets when you only need to send one?

> +
+ACK frames that acknowledge protected packets MUST be carried in a packet that
+has an equivalent level of packet protection.  Functionally, this means:
+
+* Unprotected packets, such as those that carry the initial cryptographic
+  handshake messages, can be acknowledged in unprotected packets.  This has
+  several consequences:
+
+  * Acknowledgments for packets containing cryptographic handshake messages
+    SHOULD be included in packets carrying the next cryptographic handshake
+    message.  For instance, a server can acknowledge a TLS ClientHello in the
+    packet that carries the TLS ServerHello; similarly, a client can acknowledge
+    a TLS HelloRetryRequest in the packet containing a second TLS ClientHello.
+
+  * The initial set of server handshake messages, which could span multiple
+    packets, SHOULD be acknowledged in unprotected packets even if the client

Yes.  Too many shoulds.

> +    uses 0-RTT keys to protect other packets that are sent at the same time.  A
+    server might decide to reject and ignore 0-RTT data, making it unable to use
+    any acknowledgments that are protected with 0-RTT keys.
+
+* Packets that a client sends with 0-RTT packet protection MUST be acknowledged
+  by the server in packets protected by 1-RTT keys.  This can mean that the
+  client is unable to use these acknowledgments if the server cryptographic
+  handshake messages are delayed or lost.  However, the same limitation applies
+  to other data sent by the server protected by the 1-RTT keys.
+
+* Packets that are protected with 1-RTT keys MUST be acknowledged in packets
+  that are also protected with 1-RTT keys.
+
+A packet that is not protected and claims to acknowledge a packet number that
+was sent with packet protection is not valid.  An unprotected packet that
+carries acknowledgments for protected packets MUST be discarded in its entirety.

No, otherwise it would allow for an attacker to kill a connection.  See the Public Reset discussion.

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<p><b>@martinthomson</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/336#discussion_r102844657">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -1266,6 +1266,42 @@ actual exponent is one-less than the explicit exponent, and the value represents
 4096 microseconds.  Any values larger than the representable range are clamped
 to 0xFFFF.
 
+
+### ACK Frames and Packet Protection
+
+ACK frames that acknowledge protected packets MUST be carried in a packet that
+has an equivalent level of packet protection.  Functionally, this means:
+
+* Unprotected packets, such as those that carry the initial cryptographic
+  handshake messages, can be acknowledged in unprotected packets.  This has
</pre>
<p>I didn't want to insist that they be acknowledged in unprotected packets.  For instance, the client sends a Finished message unprotected, followed by a bunch of protected packets.  It should be possible to send a single protected acknowledgement for all of those packets.</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/336#discussion_r102844733">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -1266,6 +1266,42 @@ actual exponent is one-less than the explicit exponent, and the value represents
 4096 microseconds.  Any values larger than the representable range are clamped
 to 0xFFFF.
 
+
+### ACK Frames and Packet Protection
+
+ACK frames that acknowledge protected packets MUST be carried in a packet that
+has an equivalent level of packet protection.  Functionally, this means:
+
+* Unprotected packets, such as those that carry the initial cryptographic
+  handshake messages, can be acknowledged in unprotected packets.  This has
+  several consequences:
+
+  * Acknowledgments for packets containing cryptographic handshake messages
+    SHOULD be included in packets carrying the next cryptographic handshake
</pre>
<p>Why send two unprotected packets when you only need to send one?</p>

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/336#discussion_r102844808">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +
+ACK frames that acknowledge protected packets MUST be carried in a packet that
+has an equivalent level of packet protection.  Functionally, this means:
+
+* Unprotected packets, such as those that carry the initial cryptographic
+  handshake messages, can be acknowledged in unprotected packets.  This has
+  several consequences:
+
+  * Acknowledgments for packets containing cryptographic handshake messages
+    SHOULD be included in packets carrying the next cryptographic handshake
+    message.  For instance, a server can acknowledge a TLS ClientHello in the
+    packet that carries the TLS ServerHello; similarly, a client can acknowledge
+    a TLS HelloRetryRequest in the packet containing a second TLS ClientHello.
+
+  * The initial set of server handshake messages, which could span multiple
+    packets, SHOULD be acknowledged in unprotected packets even if the client
</pre>
<p>Yes.  Too many shoulds.</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/336#discussion_r102844900">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +    uses 0-RTT keys to protect other packets that are sent at the same time.  A
+    server might decide to reject and ignore 0-RTT data, making it unable to use
+    any acknowledgments that are protected with 0-RTT keys.
+
+* Packets that a client sends with 0-RTT packet protection MUST be acknowledged
+  by the server in packets protected by 1-RTT keys.  This can mean that the
+  client is unable to use these acknowledgments if the server cryptographic
+  handshake messages are delayed or lost.  However, the same limitation applies
+  to other data sent by the server protected by the 1-RTT keys.
+
+* Packets that are protected with 1-RTT keys MUST be acknowledged in packets
+  that are also protected with 1-RTT keys.
+
+A packet that is not protected and claims to acknowledge a packet number that
+was sent with packet protection is not valid.  An unprotected packet that
+carries acknowledgments for protected packets MUST be discarded in its entirety.
</pre>
<p>No, otherwise it would allow for an attacker to kill a connection.  See the Public Reset discussion.</p>

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-- Commit Summary --

  * Reference 5827 correctly

-- File Changes --

    M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md (5)

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<h4>Commit Summary</h4>
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This is now a lot better.  I imagine that this will continue to be a work in progress, but we don't need to specifically track this here.

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<p>This is now a lot better.  I imagine that this will continue to be a work in progress, but we don't need to specifically track this here.</p>

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@ianswett, do you consider this to be closed now?

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OBE: the second no longer appears.

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<p>OBE: the second no longer appears.</p>

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@martinthomson pushed 1 commit.

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A lost handshake packet is retransmitted after 400ms (assuming that you don't have prior knowledge of the RTT, if you do then it is 2xRTT).  I realize that this is probably shorter than in TCP, but it's still a damned long time to wait.

We are far more aggressive in this in WebRTC with DTLS.  For example, NSS retransmits three times before QUIC even sends its first: at 50ms, 150ms, and 350ms.  We haven't seen much evidence that this is bring the Internet to its knees.  It's certainly good for latency to retransmit more aggressively.  Separately, we also send ICE probes much faster, without the back-off, though those are typically much smaller.

That said, if retransmitting at this pace is somehow doing damage to something, it would be good to understand why this is the case.  We're definitely interested in avoiding an inadvertent damage that we're doing and changing the above numbers could happen pretty quickly with proper justification.

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<p>A lost handshake packet is retransmitted after 400ms (assuming that you don't have prior knowledge of the RTT, if you do then it is 2xRTT).  I realize that this is probably shorter than in TCP, but it's still a damned long time to wait.</p>
<p>We are far more aggressive in this in WebRTC with DTLS.  For example, NSS retransmits three times before QUIC even sends its first: at 50ms, 150ms, and 350ms.  We haven't seen much evidence that this is bring the Internet to its knees.  It's certainly good for latency to retransmit more aggressively.  Separately, we also send ICE probes much faster, without the back-off, though those are typically much smaller.</p>
<p>That said, if retransmitting at this pace is somehow doing damage to something, it would be good to understand why this is the case.  We're definitely interested in avoiding an inadvertent damage that we're doing and changing the above numbers could happen pretty quickly with proper justification.</p>

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So if there are no error conditions, what is the trigger to clear connection state? When all streams are closed?

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right so this one looks "approvable" =F0=9F=92=AF=20

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Closes #32.
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  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/345

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  * Add a section on what to do when unprotecting a packet fails (hint: throw it away)

-- File Changes --

    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md (21)

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<p>Closes <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/32" class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/32" data-id="191921697" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-permission-text="Issue title is private">#32</a>.</p>

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  <li>Add a section on what to do when unprotecting a packet fails (hint: throw it away)</li>
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> @@ -778,6 +778,21 @@ the connection that is hosted on stream 1.  This sequence number is not visible
 to QUIC.
 
 
+## Receiving Protected Packets
+
+Once an endpoint successfully receives a packet with a given packet number, it
+MUST discard all packets with higher packet numbers if they cannot be
+successfully unprotected with either the same key, or - if there is a key update
+- the next packet protection key (see {{key-update}}).  Similarly, a packet that

This can only work if these packets were queued previously (because they were undecryptable). Otherwise, they might already have been processed.

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<p><b>@marten-seemann</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/345#discussion_r102883945">draft-ietf-quic-tls.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -778,6 +778,21 @@ the connection that is hosted on stream 1.  This sequence number is not visible
 to QUIC.
 
 
+## Receiving Protected Packets
+
+Once an endpoint successfully receives a packet with a given packet number, it
+MUST discard all packets with higher packet numbers if they cannot be
+successfully unprotected with either the same key, or - if there is a key update
+- the next packet protection key (see {{key-update}}).  Similarly, a packet that
</pre>
<p>This can only work if these packets were queued previously (because they were undecryptable). Otherwise, they might already have been processed.</p>

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> @@ -778,6 +778,21 @@ the connection that is hosted on stream 1.  This sequence number is not visible
 to QUIC.
 
 
+## Receiving Protected Packets
+
+Once an endpoint successfully receives a packet with a given packet number, it
+MUST discard all packets with higher packet numbers if they cannot be
+successfully unprotected with either the same key, or - if there is a key update
+- the next packet protection key (see {{key-update}}).  Similarly, a packet that

To what do you refer?  What works?  What is queued?  (Sorry, I'm being dense probably.)

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/345#discussion_r102884084">draft-ietf-quic-tls.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -778,6 +778,21 @@ the connection that is hosted on stream 1.  This sequence number is not visible
 to QUIC.
 
 
+## Receiving Protected Packets
+
+Once an endpoint successfully receives a packet with a given packet number, it
+MUST discard all packets with higher packet numbers if they cannot be
+successfully unprotected with either the same key, or - if there is a key update
+- the next packet protection key (see {{key-update}}).  Similarly, a packet that
</pre>
<p>To what do you refer?  What works?  What is queued?  (Sorry, I'm being dense probably.)</p>

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> @@ -778,6 +778,21 @@ the connection that is hosted on stream 1.  This sequence number is not visible
 to QUIC.
 
 
+## Receiving Protected Packets
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+MUST discard all packets with higher packet numbers if they cannot be
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Sorry, I get what you mean now.  Hmm, not sure what to recommend there.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/345#discussion_r102884353">draft-ietf-quic-tls.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -778,6 +778,21 @@ the connection that is hosted on stream 1.  This sequence number is not visible
 to QUIC.
 
 
+## Receiving Protected Packets
+
+Once an endpoint successfully receives a packet with a given packet number, it
+MUST discard all packets with higher packet numbers if they cannot be
+successfully unprotected with either the same key, or - if there is a key update
+- the next packet protection key (see {{key-update}}).  Similarly, a packet that
</pre>
<p>Sorry, I get what you mean now.  Hmm, not sure what to recommend there.</p>

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Fixed by #122.

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  Branch: refs/heads/master
  Home:   https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts
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  s/psuedo/pseudo


  Commit: db1231962083ca2e4796a74afa7fe1da59fce46a
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  Merge pull request #342 from quicwg/psuedo

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  Branch: refs/heads/master
  Home:   https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts
  Commit: f5411be19304adaa37fd4116dee1e256a02bc657
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  Date:   2017-02-24 (Fri, 24 Feb 2017)

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  Reference 5827 correctly


  Commit: 5c6bdbd3eb301975361c1686b9ce4621b8e9a0bb
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  Date:   2017-02-23 (Thu, 23 Feb 2017)

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  Merge pull request #343 from quicwg/ref5827

Reference 5827 correctly


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Needs to be rebased, but LGTM. We still need to describe that data needs to be delivered when CONNECTION_CLOSE is received, but that can be added later.

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<p>Needs to be rebased, but LGTM. We still need to describe that data needs to be delivered when CONNECTION_CLOSE is received, but that can be added later.</p>

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janaiyengar commented on this pull request.



> @@ -487,6 +487,29 @@ version of TLS.  An endpoint MUST terminate the connection if a version of TLS
 older than 1.3 is negotiated.
 
 
+## ClientHello Size
+
+QUIC requires that the initial handshake packet from a client fit within a
+single packet of 1280 octets.  With framing and packet overheads this value

"at least 1280 octets."

> @@ -697,6 +697,17 @@ the cryptographic handshake provides QUIC with:
   client can receive packets that are addressed with the transport address that
   is claimed by the client (see {{source-address-token}})
 
+The initial cryptographic handshake message MUST be sent in a single packet.
+Any second attempt that is triggered by address validation MUST also be sent
+within a single packet.  This avoids having to reassemble a message from
+multiple packets.  Reassembling messages requires that a server maintain state
+prior to establishing a connection, exposing the server to a denial of service
+risk.
+
+The first client packet of the cryptographic handshake protocol MUST fit within
+a 1280 octet QUIC packet.  This includes overheads that reduce the space

change "1280 octet" to "MTU-sized"

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<p><b>@janaiyengar</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/338#discussion_r102887334">draft-ietf-quic-tls.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -487,6 +487,29 @@ version of TLS.  An endpoint MUST terminate the connection if a version of TLS
 older than 1.3 is negotiated.
 
 
+## ClientHello Size
+
+QUIC requires that the initial handshake packet from a client fit within a
+single packet of 1280 octets.  With framing and packet overheads this value
</pre>
<p>"at least 1280 octets."</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/338#discussion_r102887400">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -697,6 +697,17 @@ the cryptographic handshake provides QUIC with:
   client can receive packets that are addressed with the transport address that
   is claimed by the client (see {{source-address-token}})
 
+The initial cryptographic handshake message MUST be sent in a single packet.
+Any second attempt that is triggered by address validation MUST also be sent
+within a single packet.  This avoids having to reassemble a message from
+multiple packets.  Reassembling messages requires that a server maintain state
+prior to establishing a connection, exposing the server to a denial of service
+risk.
+
+The first client packet of the cryptographic handshake protocol MUST fit within
+a 1280 octet QUIC packet.  This includes overheads that reduce the space
</pre>
<p>change "1280 octet" to "MTU-sized"</p>

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  Branch: refs/heads/master
  Home:   https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts
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  Date:   2017-02-24 (Fri, 24 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md

  Log Message:
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  Remove obsolete loss detection alarm section

This should have been removed when merging the previous PR, not sure what went wrong.



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assuming no loss, what is the fraction of duplicated handshake packets
you're willing to tolerate? A bunch of people have rtt distributions from
the real world. I certainly think ~0% is an unreasonable position.

Myself - I'm willing to tolerate quite a bit (10%?).

Firefox (and iirc chrome) does something similar (and uglier) with TCP @
~250ms without melting the Internet.

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> A lost handshake packet is retransmitted after 400ms (assuming that you
> don't have prior knowledge of the RTT, if you do then it is 2xRTT). I
> realize that this is probably shorter than in TCP, but it's still a damned
> long time to wait.
>
> We are far more aggressive in this in WebRTC with DTLS. For example, NSS
> retransmits three times before QUIC even sends its first: at 50ms, 150ms,
> and 350ms. We haven't seen much evidence that this is bring the Internet =
to
> its knees. It's certainly good for latency to retransmit more aggressivel=
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> Separately, we also send ICE probes much faster, without the back-off,
> though those are typically much smaller.
>
> That said, if retransmitting at this pace is somehow doing damage to
> something, it would be good to understand why this is the case. We're
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> and changing the above numbers could happen pretty quickly with proper
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assuming no loss, what is the fraction of duplicated handshake packets<br>
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Firefox (and iirc chrome) does something similar (and uglier) with TCP @<br>
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First, I believe the recovery draft is in error, because I meant to recommend a kDefaultInitialRtt of 100ms, which is what Chrome uses, not 200ms.  I also wrote up a slightly more conservative version than the current Chrome default.  

GQUIC currently defaults to 100ms, 10ms, and 1.5x backoff initially, followed by 2x.  I'm testing a more conservative approach which uses 100ms, 25ms and 2x initial backoff, which is what I was intending to recommend.  

But either way, this is definitely more aggressive than TCP, and worth having a discussion about.  I'm not aware of any catastrophic problems, as long as everything uses exponential backoff.

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<p>First, I believe the recovery draft is in error, because I meant to re=
commend a kDefaultInitialRtt of 100ms, which is what Chrome uses, not 200=
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<p>But either way, this is definitely more aggressive than TCP, and worth=
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as long as everything uses exponential backoff.</p>

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  * Change default initial RTT to 100ms

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    M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md (2)

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<h4>Commit Summary</h4>
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  <li>Change default initial RTT to 100ms</li>
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Yes, I meant to close it with my PR.

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<p>Yes, I meant to close it with my PR.</p>

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GOAWAY has a "Last Good Stream ID", which is "The last Stream ID which was accepted by the sender of the GOAWAY message. If no streams were replied to, this value must be set to 0."

The sender does not specify the last stream id it will use, which I think it should.

I also think the text in "6.6 Connection Termination" should specify that all streams <= the Last Good Stream ID will be completed(fin'd or reset), including delivering any outstanding data. 



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<p>GOAWAY has a "Last Good Stream ID", which is "The last Stream ID which was accepted by the sender of the GOAWAY message. If no streams were replied to, this value must be set to 0."</p>
<p>The sender does not specify the last stream id it will use, which I think it should.</p>
<p>I also think the text in "6.6 Connection Termination" should specify that all streams &lt;= the Last Good Stream ID will be completed(fin'd or reset), including delivering any outstanding data.</p>

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In regards to typical rates of spurious retransmissions, hopefully I'll have some data from my two experiments in the near future which will give you an idea of the difference between 150ms and 200ms and 10ms min vs 25ms min.

I believe the default settings in Chrome today result retransmit rate much higher than the 10% number you(and I) might hope for.

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ianswett commented on this pull request.

Thanks for the clarifications.

> @@ -1266,6 +1266,53 @@ actual exponent is one-less than the explicit exponent, and the value represents
 4096 microseconds.  Any values larger than the representable range are clamped
 to 0xFFFF.
 
+
+### ACK Frames and Packet Protection
+
+ACK frames that acknowledge protected packets MUST be carried in a packet that
+has an equivalent level of packet protection.

equivalent or greater?

> +carries acknowledgments for protected packets MUST be discarded in its entirety.
+
+Packets that a client sends with 0-RTT packet protection MUST be acknowledged by
+the server in packets protected by 1-RTT keys.  This can mean that the client is
+unable to use these acknowledgments if the server cryptographic handshake
+messages are delayed or lost.  Note that the same limitation applies to other
+data sent by the server protected by the 1-RTT keys.
+
+Unprotected packets, such as those that carry the initial cryptographic
+handshake messages, MAY be acknowledged in unprotected packets.  Unprotected
+packets are vulnerable to falsification or modification.  Unprotected packets
+can be acknowledged along with protected packets in cases where the peer has
+packet protection keys.
+
+An endpoint SHOULD acknowledge packets containing cryptographic handshake
+messages in the next unprotected packet that is sends, unless it is able to

I don't think unprotected is necessary in this sentence.  I believe a client SHOULD acknowledge the ServerHello in the next packet it sends, even though that would be using 1RTT keys.

I'm also not sure what "unless it is able to acknowledge those packets in later packets." is attempting to say.

> +unable to use these acknowledgments if the server cryptographic handshake
+messages are delayed or lost.  Note that the same limitation applies to other
+data sent by the server protected by the 1-RTT keys.
+
+Unprotected packets, such as those that carry the initial cryptographic
+handshake messages, MAY be acknowledged in unprotected packets.  Unprotected
+packets are vulnerable to falsification or modification.  Unprotected packets
+can be acknowledged along with protected packets in cases where the peer has
+packet protection keys.
+
+An endpoint SHOULD acknowledge packets containing cryptographic handshake
+messages in the next unprotected packet that is sends, unless it is able to
+acknowledge those packets in later packets.  Those later packets might be
+protected by 1-RTT keys.  At the completion of the cryptographic handshake, both
+peers send unprotected packets containing cryptographic handshake messages
+followed by packets protected by 1-RTT keys.  An endpoint can acknowledge the

can acknowledge => SHOULD acknowledge?

> +
+Packets that a client sends with 0-RTT packet protection MUST be acknowledged by
+the server in packets protected by 1-RTT keys.  This can mean that the client is
+unable to use these acknowledgments if the server cryptographic handshake
+messages are delayed or lost.  Note that the same limitation applies to other
+data sent by the server protected by the 1-RTT keys.
+
+Unprotected packets, such as those that carry the initial cryptographic
+handshake messages, MAY be acknowledged in unprotected packets.  Unprotected
+packets are vulnerable to falsification or modification.  Unprotected packets
+can be acknowledged along with protected packets in cases where the peer has
+packet protection keys.
+
+An endpoint SHOULD acknowledge packets containing cryptographic handshake
+messages in the next unprotected packet that is sends, unless it is able to
+acknowledge those packets in later packets.  Those later packets might be

I'm not sure what "Those later packets might be protected by 1-RTT keys." is adding here?

> +acknowledge those packets in later packets.  Those later packets might be
+protected by 1-RTT keys.  At the completion of the cryptographic handshake, both
+peers send unprotected packets containing cryptographic handshake messages
+followed by packets protected by 1-RTT keys.  An endpoint can acknowledge the
+unprotected packets in a protected packet, because the peer has access to 1-RTT
+packet protection keys.
+
+For instance, a server acknowledges a TLS ClientHello in the packet that carries
+the TLS ServerHello; similarly, a client can acknowledge a TLS HelloRetryRequest
+in the packet containing a second TLS ClientHello.  The complete set of server
+handshake messages (TLS ServerHello through to Finished) might be acknowledged
+by a client in protected packets, because it is certain that the server is able
+to decipher the packet.
+
+It is critical to use unprotected packets to acknowledge packets containing
+cryptographic handshake messages from a server, even if the client has access to

This is only true when there are no 1RTT keys, so how about "It is critical to not protect packets containing acknowledgements with 0RTT keys."  And then your last sentence explains why.

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<p><b>@ianswett</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

<p>Thanks for the clarifications.</p><hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/336#discussion_r102985016">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -1266,6 +1266,53 @@ actual exponent is one-less than the explicit exponent, and the value represents
 4096 microseconds.  Any values larger than the representable range are clamped
 to 0xFFFF.
 
+
+### ACK Frames and Packet Protection
+
+ACK frames that acknowledge protected packets MUST be carried in a packet that
+has an equivalent level of packet protection.
</pre>
<p>equivalent or greater?</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/336#discussion_r102985998">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +carries acknowledgments for protected packets MUST be discarded in its entirety.
+
+Packets that a client sends with 0-RTT packet protection MUST be acknowledged by
+the server in packets protected by 1-RTT keys.  This can mean that the client is
+unable to use these acknowledgments if the server cryptographic handshake
+messages are delayed or lost.  Note that the same limitation applies to other
+data sent by the server protected by the 1-RTT keys.
+
+Unprotected packets, such as those that carry the initial cryptographic
+handshake messages, MAY be acknowledged in unprotected packets.  Unprotected
+packets are vulnerable to falsification or modification.  Unprotected packets
+can be acknowledged along with protected packets in cases where the peer has
+packet protection keys.
+
+An endpoint SHOULD acknowledge packets containing cryptographic handshake
+messages in the next unprotected packet that is sends, unless it is able to
</pre>
<p>I don't think unprotected is necessary in this sentence.  I believe a client SHOULD acknowledge the ServerHello in the next packet it sends, even though that would be using 1RTT keys.</p>
<p>I'm also not sure what "unless it is able to acknowledge those packets in later packets." is attempting to say.</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/336#discussion_r102986150">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +unable to use these acknowledgments if the server cryptographic handshake
+messages are delayed or lost.  Note that the same limitation applies to other
+data sent by the server protected by the 1-RTT keys.
+
+Unprotected packets, such as those that carry the initial cryptographic
+handshake messages, MAY be acknowledged in unprotected packets.  Unprotected
+packets are vulnerable to falsification or modification.  Unprotected packets
+can be acknowledged along with protected packets in cases where the peer has
+packet protection keys.
+
+An endpoint SHOULD acknowledge packets containing cryptographic handshake
+messages in the next unprotected packet that is sends, unless it is able to
+acknowledge those packets in later packets.  Those later packets might be
+protected by 1-RTT keys.  At the completion of the cryptographic handshake, both
+peers send unprotected packets containing cryptographic handshake messages
+followed by packets protected by 1-RTT keys.  An endpoint can acknowledge the
</pre>
<p>can acknowledge =&gt; SHOULD acknowledge?</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/336#discussion_r102986496">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +
+Packets that a client sends with 0-RTT packet protection MUST be acknowledged by
+the server in packets protected by 1-RTT keys.  This can mean that the client is
+unable to use these acknowledgments if the server cryptographic handshake
+messages are delayed or lost.  Note that the same limitation applies to other
+data sent by the server protected by the 1-RTT keys.
+
+Unprotected packets, such as those that carry the initial cryptographic
+handshake messages, MAY be acknowledged in unprotected packets.  Unprotected
+packets are vulnerable to falsification or modification.  Unprotected packets
+can be acknowledged along with protected packets in cases where the peer has
+packet protection keys.
+
+An endpoint SHOULD acknowledge packets containing cryptographic handshake
+messages in the next unprotected packet that is sends, unless it is able to
+acknowledge those packets in later packets.  Those later packets might be
</pre>
<p>I'm not sure what "Those later packets might be protected by 1-RTT keys." is adding here?</p>

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/336#discussion_r102987066">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +acknowledge those packets in later packets.  Those later packets might be
+protected by 1-RTT keys.  At the completion of the cryptographic handshake, both
+peers send unprotected packets containing cryptographic handshake messages
+followed by packets protected by 1-RTT keys.  An endpoint can acknowledge the
+unprotected packets in a protected packet, because the peer has access to 1-RTT
+packet protection keys.
+
+For instance, a server acknowledges a TLS ClientHello in the packet that carries
+the TLS ServerHello; similarly, a client can acknowledge a TLS HelloRetryRequest
+in the packet containing a second TLS ClientHello.  The complete set of server
+handshake messages (TLS ServerHello through to Finished) might be acknowledged
+by a client in protected packets, because it is certain that the server is able
+to decipher the packet.
+
+It is critical to use unprotected packets to acknowledge packets containing
+cryptographic handshake messages from a server, even if the client has access to
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<p>This is only true when there are no 1RTT keys, so how about "It is critical to not protect packets containing acknowledgements with 0RTT keys."  And then your last sentence explains why.</p>

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Here's a preview of what they would look like, in my opinion:

- [Option 2](https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/unidirectional)
- [Option 3](https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/unidirectional2)

Both build on #171.

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<p>Here's a preview of what they would look like, in my opinion:</p>
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Closes #253.  I think there's value in having a way to specify a QUIC-only (or QUIC-first, though less so) endpoint for the reasons described in the issue.
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  * Adding httpq://
  * IANA for httpq
  * Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/master' into httpq
  * Merge branch 'httpq' of https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts into httpq

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<p>Closes <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/253" class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/253" data-id="204423230" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-permission-text="Issue title is private">#253</a>.  I think there's value in having a way to specify a QUIC-only (or QUIC-first, though less so) endpoint for the reasons described in the issue.</p>

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<h4>Commit Summary</h4>
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  <li>Adding httpq://</li>
  <li>IANA for httpq</li>
  <li>Merge remote-tracking branch &#39;origin/master&#39; into httpq</li>
  <li>Merge branch &#39;httpq&#39; of https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts into httpq</li>
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<h4>File Changes</h4>
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<h4>Patch Links:</h4>
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This is probably a vestige from HTTP/2, where the last stream created by the server prior to sending a GOAWAY was deterministic.  You're right, this needs to be explicit in QUIC.

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<p>This is probably a vestige from HTTP/2, where the last stream created by the server prior to sending a GOAWAY was deterministic.  You're right, this needs to be explicit in QUIC.</p>

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I think so, yes.  And in a non-error case, that's controlled by your interface with the application.  The application layer will be consuming data out of the streams.  Even if you've closed your socket, so as long as the application has a handle open to the QUIC session and is using stream handles to read data, you'll have some persistent state.

You can clear out state when the socket is closed *and* all data has been read/discarded.

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<p>I think so, yes.  And in a non-error case, that's controlled by your int=
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<p>You can clear out state when the socket is closed <em>and</em> all data =
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OK, so if I acknowledge the last of the peer data FINs after all of my FINs have been acknowledged, I should enter a TIME_WAIT-like state and then later delete the connection. It would appear that CONNECTION_CLOSE is entirely extraneous in this case.

Which I guess brings me back to the question I asked in #335. What value is CONNECTION_CLOSE providing above sending a Public Reset instead? It certainly provides some negative value in obscuring the end of the connection from stateful middleboxes.



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<p>OK, so if I acknowledge the last of the peer data FINs after all of my=
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hen later delete the connection. It would appear that CONNECTION_CLOSE is=
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Actually, the text does allow connections to close silently based on timeout.  One might argue that CONNECTION_CLOSE is valuable in enabling one side or the other to short-circuit the idle timeout.  But I think its main value is that you're certain it came from the peer, because it's encrypted.

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Is there actually a difference between a peer that has lost all state and a middlebox that can't deliver packets to its next hop?  I'm having trouble envisioning how a PR could be authenticated as coming from an endpoint that used to know you, unless you do something with long-lived key-pairs for which the endpoint persists the keypair and the peers learn about the public key during connection setup.

Short of that, I think it's going to be hard to exclude middleboxes while permitting rebooted peers.  (And even harder if your peer is an Anycast IP address and you've suddenly wound up talking to a different instance.)

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Mike you can do this without public keys by using a single long term key and hash preimages as in PR #20.


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<p>Mike you can do this without public keys by using a single long term key and hash preimages as in PR <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/20" class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/20" data-id="191392156" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-permission-text="Issue title is private">#20</a>.</p>

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Ah, so it doesn't have to be an asymmetric keypair, but you do need a persistent key.  Which implies some way to do key rollover semi-cleanly.  (Generate a new key every boot, use it for new connections, use the previous key for any incoming connections you don't recognize.)  I would expect the window after boot that you'd need to be rejecting old packets to be reasonably small -- basically whatever connection idle time you were advertising before.

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<p>Ah, so it doesn't have to be an asymmetric keypair, but you do need a pe=
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It's nice to have the authentication, but the implication is that this somehow protects us from attack. But an attacker is always welcome to use Public Reset, so the protocol is only as strong as the authentication in Public Reset regardless of how much we protect the CONNECTION_CLOSE.

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On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 11:57 AM, ianswett <notifications@github.com> wrote:

> I believe the default settings in Chrome today result retransmit rate much
> higher than the 10% number you(and I) might hope for.



at 100 I would expect it would be a lot more.. but that's not necessarily a
determining problem


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Agreed @martinduke , which is why a trustable public reset is really critical, and as @RyanAtGoogle pointed out to me earlier this week, we may not need a connection close frame if we're willing to put an error code in the public reset.  This would also reduce the amount of state a server should keep after closing a connection in order to re-create the connection close packet from a full packet to a connection_id -> error code map.

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  Branch: refs/heads/master
  Home:   https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts
  Commit: 01ad075d8dfae21af8f0b42925c11e874838e926
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/01ad075d8dfae21af8f0b42925c11e874838e926
  Author: ianswett <ianswett@users.noreply.github.com>
  Date:   2017-02-24 (Fri, 24 Feb 2017)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md

  Log Message:
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  Change default initial RTT to 100ms


  Commit: ee2f5fbffa51ffa915f8d192b70f7ed84f3e677e
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/ee2f5fbffa51ffa915f8d192b70f7ed84f3e677e
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2017-02-27 (Mon, 27 Feb 2017)

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  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #346 from quicwg/ianswett-patch-2

Change default initial RTT to 100ms


Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/e9ad573628a6...ee2f5fbffa51
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Yep, you got it @MikeBishop, though it isn't that simple for a cluster of machines.

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<p>Yep, you got it <a href="https://github.com/MikeBishop" class="user-mention">@MikeBishop</a>, though it isn't that simple for a cluster of machines.</p>

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  Branch: refs/heads/reset_close
  Home:   https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts
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  Add real text on error handling


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  Refining based on @MikeBishop's feedback


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  Dealing with middleboxen more strictly, MAY discard, continue after receiving packets more than rttvar after the Public Reset


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> +carries acknowledgments for protected packets MUST be discarded in its entirety.
+
+Packets that a client sends with 0-RTT packet protection MUST be acknowledged by
+the server in packets protected by 1-RTT keys.  This can mean that the client is
+unable to use these acknowledgments if the server cryptographic handshake
+messages are delayed or lost.  Note that the same limitation applies to other
+data sent by the server protected by the 1-RTT keys.
+
+Unprotected packets, such as those that carry the initial cryptographic
+handshake messages, MAY be acknowledged in unprotected packets.  Unprotected
+packets are vulnerable to falsification or modification.  Unprotected packets
+can be acknowledged along with protected packets in cases where the peer has
+packet protection keys.
+
+An endpoint SHOULD acknowledge packets containing cryptographic handshake
+messages in the next unprotected packet that is sends, unless it is able to

Note that we have the open issue whereby the client sends its last flight in an unprotected packet (see #337).

That calls out to the later text on acknowledgments.  For example, if the client receives the full flight of messages from the server (ServerHello..Finished), then it could send an ACK in an unprotected packet.  OR it could just acknowledge in the protected packets that it is about to send anyway.  I want the SHOULD here still because I think that timely ACKs during the handshake are hugely valuable, but we have to acknowledge that the content of the ACK is vulnerable to tampering and so implementations might prefer to protect ACKs in some cases.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/336#discussion_r103124729">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +carries acknowledgments for protected packets MUST be discarded in its entirety.
+
+Packets that a client sends with 0-RTT packet protection MUST be acknowledged by
+the server in packets protected by 1-RTT keys.  This can mean that the client is
+unable to use these acknowledgments if the server cryptographic handshake
+messages are delayed or lost.  Note that the same limitation applies to other
+data sent by the server protected by the 1-RTT keys.
+
+Unprotected packets, such as those that carry the initial cryptographic
+handshake messages, MAY be acknowledged in unprotected packets.  Unprotected
+packets are vulnerable to falsification or modification.  Unprotected packets
+can be acknowledged along with protected packets in cases where the peer has
+packet protection keys.
+
+An endpoint SHOULD acknowledge packets containing cryptographic handshake
+messages in the next unprotected packet that is sends, unless it is able to
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<p>Note that we have the open issue whereby the client sends its last flight in an unprotected packet (see <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/337" class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/337" data-id="209664083" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-permission-text="Issue title is private">#337</a>).</p>
<p>That calls out to the later text on acknowledgments.  For example, if the client receives the full flight of messages from the server (ServerHello..Finished), then it could send an ACK in an unprotected packet.  OR it could just acknowledge in the protected packets that it is about to send anyway.  I want the SHOULD here still because I think that timely ACKs during the handshake are hugely valuable, but we have to acknowledge that the content of the ACK is vulnerable to tampering and so implementations might prefer to protect ACKs in some cases.</p>

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> +
+Packets that a client sends with 0-RTT packet protection MUST be acknowledged by
+the server in packets protected by 1-RTT keys.  This can mean that the client is
+unable to use these acknowledgments if the server cryptographic handshake
+messages are delayed or lost.  Note that the same limitation applies to other
+data sent by the server protected by the 1-RTT keys.
+
+Unprotected packets, such as those that carry the initial cryptographic
+handshake messages, MAY be acknowledged in unprotected packets.  Unprotected
+packets are vulnerable to falsification or modification.  Unprotected packets
+can be acknowledged along with protected packets in cases where the peer has
+packet protection keys.
+
+An endpoint SHOULD acknowledge packets containing cryptographic handshake
+messages in the next unprotected packet that is sends, unless it is able to
+acknowledge those packets in later packets.  Those later packets might be

See above.

> +unable to use these acknowledgments if the server cryptographic handshake
+messages are delayed or lost.  Note that the same limitation applies to other
+data sent by the server protected by the 1-RTT keys.
+
+Unprotected packets, such as those that carry the initial cryptographic
+handshake messages, MAY be acknowledged in unprotected packets.  Unprotected
+packets are vulnerable to falsification or modification.  Unprotected packets
+can be acknowledged along with protected packets in cases where the peer has
+packet protection keys.
+
+An endpoint SHOULD acknowledge packets containing cryptographic handshake
+messages in the next unprotected packet that is sends, unless it is able to
+acknowledge those packets in later packets.  Those later packets might be
+protected by 1-RTT keys.  At the completion of the cryptographic handshake, both
+peers send unprotected packets containing cryptographic handshake messages
+followed by packets protected by 1-RTT keys.  An endpoint can acknowledge the

I don't think so.  I would prefer to leave this to implementations so that they can make the integrity/timeliness trade-off.  We're accepting that ACKs are sometime unprotected, and an attacker can always force an implementation (by dropping protected packets carefully), so that seems like a reasonable trade-off to leave open.

> +acknowledge those packets in later packets.  Those later packets might be
+protected by 1-RTT keys.  At the completion of the cryptographic handshake, both
+peers send unprotected packets containing cryptographic handshake messages
+followed by packets protected by 1-RTT keys.  An endpoint can acknowledge the
+unprotected packets in a protected packet, because the peer has access to 1-RTT
+packet protection keys.
+
+For instance, a server acknowledges a TLS ClientHello in the packet that carries
+the TLS ServerHello; similarly, a client can acknowledge a TLS HelloRetryRequest
+in the packet containing a second TLS ClientHello.  The complete set of server
+handshake messages (TLS ServerHello through to Finished) might be acknowledged
+by a client in protected packets, because it is certain that the server is able
+to decipher the packet.
+
+It is critical to use unprotected packets to acknowledge packets containing
+cryptographic handshake messages from a server, even if the client has access to

Ahh, yes, much better.

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<p><b>@martinthomson</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/336#discussion_r103124743">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +
+Packets that a client sends with 0-RTT packet protection MUST be acknowledged by
+the server in packets protected by 1-RTT keys.  This can mean that the client is
+unable to use these acknowledgments if the server cryptographic handshake
+messages are delayed or lost.  Note that the same limitation applies to other
+data sent by the server protected by the 1-RTT keys.
+
+Unprotected packets, such as those that carry the initial cryptographic
+handshake messages, MAY be acknowledged in unprotected packets.  Unprotected
+packets are vulnerable to falsification or modification.  Unprotected packets
+can be acknowledged along with protected packets in cases where the peer has
+packet protection keys.
+
+An endpoint SHOULD acknowledge packets containing cryptographic handshake
+messages in the next unprotected packet that is sends, unless it is able to
+acknowledge those packets in later packets.  Those later packets might be
</pre>
<p>See above.</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/336#discussion_r103124846">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +unable to use these acknowledgments if the server cryptographic handshake
+messages are delayed or lost.  Note that the same limitation applies to other
+data sent by the server protected by the 1-RTT keys.
+
+Unprotected packets, such as those that carry the initial cryptographic
+handshake messages, MAY be acknowledged in unprotected packets.  Unprotected
+packets are vulnerable to falsification or modification.  Unprotected packets
+can be acknowledged along with protected packets in cases where the peer has
+packet protection keys.
+
+An endpoint SHOULD acknowledge packets containing cryptographic handshake
+messages in the next unprotected packet that is sends, unless it is able to
+acknowledge those packets in later packets.  Those later packets might be
+protected by 1-RTT keys.  At the completion of the cryptographic handshake, both
+peers send unprotected packets containing cryptographic handshake messages
+followed by packets protected by 1-RTT keys.  An endpoint can acknowledge the
</pre>
<p>I don't think so.  I would prefer to leave this to implementations so that they can make the integrity/timeliness trade-off.  We're accepting that ACKs are sometime unprotected, and an attacker can always force an implementation (by dropping protected packets carefully), so that seems like a reasonable trade-off to leave open.</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/336#discussion_r103124861">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +acknowledge those packets in later packets.  Those later packets might be
+protected by 1-RTT keys.  At the completion of the cryptographic handshake, both
+peers send unprotected packets containing cryptographic handshake messages
+followed by packets protected by 1-RTT keys.  An endpoint can acknowledge the
+unprotected packets in a protected packet, because the peer has access to 1-RTT
+packet protection keys.
+
+For instance, a server acknowledges a TLS ClientHello in the packet that carries
+the TLS ServerHello; similarly, a client can acknowledge a TLS HelloRetryRequest
+in the packet containing a second TLS ClientHello.  The complete set of server
+handshake messages (TLS ServerHello through to Finished) might be acknowledged
+by a client in protected packets, because it is certain that the server is able
+to decipher the packet.
+
+It is critical to use unprotected packets to acknowledge packets containing
+cryptographic handshake messages from a server, even if the client has access to
</pre>
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Ever noticed how delta and direction always have the same value?

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I don't see any way in which this could be deployed to the WWW in any reasonable timescale -- which is not the same as saying it wouldn't work in a browser.  A browser accessing a dedicated service which runs over QUIC seems very feasible.

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They're a tri-state.  If Delta=0, Direction is ignored (and MUST be zero, I think I said).  Delta=1, Direction=0 is possible, though I couldn't fit it into my example.  For example, consider a RESPONSE frame on server's 25 responding to client's 18.  Delta=1, Direction=0, StreamReference=7.  But I agree, that combination would be surprising in a DATA or PUSH_PROMISE frame, to say the least.

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> +carries acknowledgments for protected packets MUST be discarded in its entirety.
+
+Packets that a client sends with 0-RTT packet protection MUST be acknowledged by
+the server in packets protected by 1-RTT keys.  This can mean that the client is
+unable to use these acknowledgments if the server cryptographic handshake
+messages are delayed or lost.  Note that the same limitation applies to other
+data sent by the server protected by the 1-RTT keys.
+
+Unprotected packets, such as those that carry the initial cryptographic
+handshake messages, MAY be acknowledged in unprotected packets.  Unprotected
+packets are vulnerable to falsification or modification.  Unprotected packets
+can be acknowledged along with protected packets in cases where the peer has
+packet protection keys.
+
+An endpoint SHOULD acknowledge packets containing cryptographic handshake
+messages in the next unprotected packet that is sends, unless it is able to

If the concern is timeliness, why not say immediately, rather than discuss whether it's protected or unprotected?  Also, the vulnerability comes from the peer processing the unprotected ack, so as long as the peer is expected to process it, the sender of the ack doesn't gain much by waiting for 1RTT keys to ack it.

ie: "An endpoint SHOULD acknowledge packets containing cryptographic handshake messages with no ack delay, even if the 1RTT keys are not yet available." 

I wanted to put immediately, but I think it's reasonable for the client to process a 2 or 3 packet reject and then only send 1 ack, if all the packets arrive essentially at once.

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<p><b>@ianswett</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/336#discussion_r103212936">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +carries acknowledgments for protected packets MUST be discarded in its entirety.
+
+Packets that a client sends with 0-RTT packet protection MUST be acknowledged by
+the server in packets protected by 1-RTT keys.  This can mean that the client is
+unable to use these acknowledgments if the server cryptographic handshake
+messages are delayed or lost.  Note that the same limitation applies to other
+data sent by the server protected by the 1-RTT keys.
+
+Unprotected packets, such as those that carry the initial cryptographic
+handshake messages, MAY be acknowledged in unprotected packets.  Unprotected
+packets are vulnerable to falsification or modification.  Unprotected packets
+can be acknowledged along with protected packets in cases where the peer has
+packet protection keys.
+
+An endpoint SHOULD acknowledge packets containing cryptographic handshake
+messages in the next unprotected packet that is sends, unless it is able to
</pre>
<p>If the concern is timeliness, why not say immediately, rather than discuss whether it's protected or unprotected?  Also, the vulnerability comes from the peer processing the unprotected ack, so as long as the peer is expected to process it, the sender of the ack doesn't gain much by waiting for 1RTT keys to ack it.</p>
<p>ie: "An endpoint SHOULD acknowledge packets containing cryptographic handshake messages with no ack delay, even if the 1RTT keys are not yet available."</p>
<p>I wanted to put immediately, but I think it's reasonable for the client to process a 2 or 3 packet reject and then only send 1 ack, if all the packets arrive essentially at once.</p>

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My sense is that we'd like the server to chose the "real" connection ID to be used for a connection. Among other things, this enables servers to embed routing/load balancing information into connection IDs.

I have heard two options for what the client should do before it has a server-chosen connection ID.

1) Send a random connection ID
2) Send a connection ID of 0

If we go with approach 1, then we need some mechanism that load balancers can use to detect if a packet's connection ID is server-chosen or not. It seems likely that all packets encrypted with 1-RTT keys could use server generated connection IDs. But other packets it's not so clear. Consider the case of a non-0-RTT handshake. The initial client handshake packet would include a client-chosen connection ID. When the server replies, it could use a server-chosen connection ID. If so then when the client sends the next handshake packet it could use the server-chosen connection ID as well. But that means that we'd need a mechanism to disambiguate client handshake packets with client-chosen connection IDs from client handshake packets with server-chosen connection IDs. We could devote bits or packet types to indicate this. I suspect the same argument might hold for server handshake packets. We might not want the server to chose a connection ID until it is ready to accept the handshake.

One benefit of this approach, however, is that a QUIC server could chose to simply use the client's connection ID for the duration of the connection. This would mean that it would not need to be able to generate a new connection ID that is guaranteed to be sent by the load balancer back to itself. In cases where the vendor of the load balancer and the server are not the same, this might be valuable.

If we go with approach 2, then it's obvious that any packet with a non-zero connection ID has a server-chosen connection ID (though the server still may want to verify that it's a "valid" connection ID according to the algorithm it uses). 

On the other hand, this requires QUIC servers which are behind load balancers to be able to generate connection IDs which the load balancer will route back to them. If the server and load balancers are from different vendors, this might be challenging.



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<p>My sense is that we'd like the server to chose the "real" connection I=
D to be used for a connection. Among other things, this enables servers t=
o embed routing/load balancing information into connection IDs.</p>
<p>I have heard two options for what the client should do before it has a=
 server-chosen connection ID.</p>
<ol>
<li>Send a random connection ID</li>
<li>Send a connection ID of 0</li>
</ol>
<p>If we go with approach 1, then we need some mechanism that load balanc=
ers can use to detect if a packet's connection ID is server-chosen or not=
. It seems likely that all packets encrypted with 1-RTT keys could use se=
rver generated connection IDs. But other packets it's not so clear. Consi=
der the case of a non-0-RTT handshake. The initial client handshake packe=
t would include a client-chosen connection ID. When the server replies, i=
t could use a server-chosen connection ID. If so then when the client sen=
ds the next handshake packet it could use the server-chosen connection ID=
 as well. But that means that we'd need a mechanism to disambiguate clien=
t handshake packets with client-chosen connection IDs from client handsha=
ke packets with server-chosen connection IDs. We could devote bits or pac=
ket types to indicate this. I suspect the same argument might hold for se=
rver handshake packets. We might not want the server to chose a connectio=
n ID until it is ready to accept the handshake.</p>
<p>One benefit of this approach, however, is that a QUIC server could cho=
se to simply use the client's connection ID for the duration of the conne=
ction. This would mean that it would not need to be able to generate a ne=
w connection ID that is guaranteed to be sent by the load balancer back t=
o itself. In cases where the vendor of the load balancer and the server a=
re not the same, this might be valuable.</p>
<p>If we go with approach 2, then it's obvious that any packet with a non=
-zero connection ID has a server-chosen connection ID (though the server =
still may want to verify that it's a "valid" connection ID according to t=
he algorithm it uses).</p>
<p>On the other hand, this requires QUIC servers which are behind load ba=
lancers to be able to generate connection IDs which the load balancer wil=
l route back to them. If the server and load balancers are from different=
 vendors, this might be challenging.</p>

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>  We might not want the server to chose a connection ID until it is ready to accept the handshake.

Or maybe the opposite -- the server can choose the assign a connection ID to this connection at the first opportunity even if it is not yet ready to accept the connection.

An example of this is version negotiation. During new software rollout, backend servers may be running different versions of the software and hence supporting different QUIC versions. When the server is doing version negotiation, it may be _very_ interested in ensuring that the client comes back to this backend server using the QUIC version it requested. If ConnectionID is used by the load balancers to route to backend servers, the server will likely want to generate a new ConnectionID during version negotiation and before it is ready to accept the handshake.

Of course, there must be a way to look at a packet and know what it is using Server's Connection ID.

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    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (10)

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ianswett commented on this pull request.

Two small suggestions.

> @@ -1182,7 +1182,8 @@ The STREAM frame contains the following fields:
 
 * Offset: A variable-sized unsigned number specifying the byte offset in the
   stream for the data in this STREAM frame.  The first byte in the stream has an
-  offset of 0.
+  offset of 0. The largest offset delivered on a stream---the sum of the
+  re-constructed offset and data length---MUST be lesser than 2^64.

lesser than -> less than, here and below?

> @@ -1962,9 +1963,10 @@ sender or during delivery to the application at the receiver.
 When new data is to be sent on a stream, a sender MUST set the encapsulating
 STREAM frame's offset field to the stream offset of the first byte of this new
 data.  The first byte of data that is sent on a stream has the stream offset 0.
-A receiver MUST ensure that received stream data is delivered to the application
-as an ordered byte-stream.  Data received out of order MUST be buffered for
-later delivery, as long as it is not in violation of the receiver's flow control
+The largest offset delivered on a stream MUST be lesser than 2^64. A receiver
+MUST ensure that received stream data is delivered to the application as an

nit: How about "MUST ensure that received stream data is available to the application as an ordered byte-stream."

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<p><b>@ianswett</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

<p>Two small suggestions.</p><hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/350#discussion_r103507893">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -1182,7 +1182,8 @@ The STREAM frame contains the following fields:
 
 * Offset: A variable-sized unsigned number specifying the byte offset in the
   stream for the data in this STREAM frame.  The first byte in the stream has an
-  offset of 0.
+  offset of 0. The largest offset delivered on a stream---the sum of the
+  re-constructed offset and data length---MUST be lesser than 2^64.
</pre>
<p>lesser than -&gt; less than, here and below?</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/350#discussion_r103508234">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -1962,9 +1963,10 @@ sender or during delivery to the application at the receiver.
 When new data is to be sent on a stream, a sender MUST set the encapsulating
 STREAM frame&#39;s offset field to the stream offset of the first byte of this new
 data.  The first byte of data that is sent on a stream has the stream offset 0.
-A receiver MUST ensure that received stream data is delivered to the application
-as an ordered byte-stream.  Data received out of order MUST be buffered for
-later delivery, as long as it is not in violation of the receiver&#39;s flow control
+The largest offset delivered on a stream MUST be lesser than 2^64. A receiver
+MUST ensure that received stream data is delivered to the application as an
</pre>
<p>nit: How about "MUST ensure that received stream data is available to the application as an ordered byte-stream."</p>

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Adding packet-number echo is, IMO, much easier with Jana's alternate header format proposal. This could be done with just two additional codepoints. Propose:

`35 and b5: 1-RTT packet (4-byte packet number + 4-byte packet echo)`

```
 0                   1                   2                   3
 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1
+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
|      Type     |             
+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
|                     Packet Number (4)                         |
+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
|                  Packet Number Echo (4)                       |
+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
|                            Payload                          ...
+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
```

`3d and bd: 1-RTT packet with connection ID(4-byte packet number + 4-byte packet echo)`

```
 0                   1                   2                   3
 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1
+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
|      Type     |             
+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
|                                                               |
+                        Connection ID                          +
|                                                               |
+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
|                     Packet Number (4)                         |
+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
|                  Packet Number Echo (4)                       |
+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
|                            Payload                          ...
+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
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<p>Adding packet-number echo is, IMO, much easier with Jana's alternate hea=
der format proposal. This could be done with just two additional codepoints=
. Propose:</p>
<p><code>35 and b5: 1-RTT packet (4-byte packet number + 4-byte packet echo=
)</code></p>
<pre><code> 0                   1                   2                   3
 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1
+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
|      Type     |=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20
+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
|                     Packet Number (4)                         |
+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
|                  Packet Number Echo (4)                       |
+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
|                            Payload                          ...
+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
</code></pre>
<p><code>3d and bd: 1-RTT packet with connection ID(4-byte packet number + =
4-byte packet echo)</code></p>
<pre><code> 0                   1                   2                   3
 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1
+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
|      Type     |=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20
+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
|                                                               |
+                        Connection ID                          +
|                                                               |
+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
|                     Packet Number (4)                         |
+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
|                  Packet Number Echo (4)                       |
+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
|                            Payload                          ...
+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
</code></pre>

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We need to include two of these (for key phase).

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<p>We need to include two of these (for key phase).</p>

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nit: colon

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Formatting nit:

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Bit 0 (0x80):
: Header form. Set to 1 for long headers

Bits 1-7:
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<p>Formatting nit:</p>
<pre><code>Bit 0 (0x80):
: Header form. Set to 1 for long headers

Bits 1-7:
: Packet type [...]
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I don't know how to nest these reliably.  I think that you can use an indent of 3 to ensure that it nests.  Might need to play around.

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<p>I don't know how to nest these reliably.  I think that you can use an indent of 3 to ensure that it nests.  Might need to play around.</p>

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> @@ -1182,7 +1182,8 @@ The STREAM frame contains the following fields:
 
 * Offset: A variable-sized unsigned number specifying the byte offset in the
   stream for the data in this STREAM frame.  The first byte in the stream has an
-  offset of 0.
+  offset of 0. The largest offset delivered on a stream---the sum of the
+  re-constructed offset and data length---MUST be lesser than 2^64.

nit: don't use `---`

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<p><b>@martinthomson</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/350#discussion_r103586076">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -1182,7 +1182,8 @@ The STREAM frame contains the following fields:
 
 * Offset: A variable-sized unsigned number specifying the byte offset in the
   stream for the data in this STREAM frame.  The first byte in the stream has an
-  offset of 0.
+  offset of 0. The largest offset delivered on a stream---the sum of the
+  re-constructed offset and data length---MUST be lesser than 2^64.
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<p>nit: don't use <code>---</code></p>

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@britram, Who would be able to decide to use this?  Does it require mutual agreement (to use or to disable)?  Or, could be unilateral?

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<p><a href="https://github.com/britram" class="user-mention">@britram</a>, Who would be able to decide to use this?  Does it require mutual agreement (to use or to disable)?  Or, could be unilateral?</p>

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Right now, packet number echo is only intended for the use of devices on path, to support passive RTT/loss measurement -- QUIC uses ACK frames for the same. So the decision whether to echo packet numbers, and how often, is unilateral. 

Whether this would be an application-level or system-level configuration option is IMO implementation-specific.

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