From nobody Wed Nov 1 02:41:05 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C5C513F69D for ; Wed, 1 Nov 2017 02:41:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.473 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.473 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uhXAroYcR2QH for ; Wed, 1 Nov 2017 02:41:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from o7.sgmail.github.com (o7.sgmail.github.com [167.89.101.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 788A51395F0 for ; Wed, 1 Nov 2017 02:41:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=b7bTcUML8MtJkvEKm5sCcOlH2IU=; b=SJEZ2OcYUqvjEIRu nlO37ig913/XooNdiVzJZUxpBzqz6Ib/bad1kwjvfjSrP6R+2ApaxCSDAiGy+Qmn c1s8KE8v83qD9uh+q1VzZ7tb9qeG8VoBzjSUm0K8G/0fpOE672jipDBDxMCqdLKX xa11ed3DAB6kRMI6qhUW+vO1ZDk= Received: by filter0410p1iad2.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0410p1iad2-10099-59F996AD-6 2017-11-01 09:41:01.434321955 +0000 UTC Received: from github-smtp2b-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (github-smtp2b-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net [192.30.253.17]) by ismtpd0022p1iad2.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id jEtcty41RXSMrnDikIb_Pw for ; Wed, 01 Nov 2017 09:41:01.411 +0000 (UTC) Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2017 09:41:01 +0000 (UTC) From: Patrick McManus Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] CONTINUATION/END_HEADERS (#76) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_59f996ad5b149_4e943fe401ed0f384933b6"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: mcmanus X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak1EP5g+tSGB4F98epzba2eC6zuHMBDxRrtOxw 3BjeiLYGST9O85O8CKECT/wOvq9eyPNHVz6gxvC+lyHSj1V+3MN18wMnJXnccFDq0NJDZPWe5AI3WN IDxAcxws/kHMSpfy/OIUMsCL+bvXUtn9nQ/x2qEWRmJpkaHVGrIAMO4DXDfpPUVOs9PS7J2w5hNUhE M= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2017 09:41:04 -0000 ----==_mimepart_59f996ad5b149_4e943fe401ed0f384933b6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @martinthomson sgtm -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/76#issuecomment-341054234 ----==_mimepart_59f996ad5b149_4e943fe401ed0f384933b6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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SGTM as well.

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The inconsistencies aren't a contradiction, so I'm still confused about the problem this causes.

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----==_mimepart_59f9c3711147a_12d43fbc18f84f30997a-- From nobody Wed Nov 1 08:47:49 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C348A13F735 for ; Wed, 1 Nov 2017 08:47:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.395 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.395 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-2.8, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id k1MEduLDhRKb for ; Wed, 1 Nov 2017 08:47:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-smtp2b-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (github-smtp2-ext2.iad.github.net [192.30.252.193]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49CE613F6C2 for ; Wed, 1 Nov 2017 08:47:47 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2017 08:47:46 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1509551266; bh=FQSk1gvbURScv6GW1e255eErwni5D4LSxasCmNVUaOA=; h=From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=XhgHfxxhcPuZ61XKXP/C5xAYH+Y/NEmVTxgotLaUqKE5oK3PF8GFqoRFCklyG/Vqf qYG3ZVjDNqAX87JtFJHEMQnrEPBvEEZCtwUGacsQQ9TDvWYOfbtgEWbRC++Ot91YV3 19+Fa+GEQX93xcxXszRsXG1gW2CHJzG6hu5hFeGI= From: Patrick McManus Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] RTT Measurement for HelloRetryRequest (#879) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_59f9eca2719f3_68ba3fe3fd856f301124842"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: mcmanus X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2017 15:47:49 -0000 ----==_mimepart_59f9eca2719f3_68ba3fe3fd856f301124842 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit (not specific to hrr) There is a general weirdness where you can send a client initial and then receive server cleartext but not an ack of the client initial leading to simultaneous (or even out of order) sending of more client initials and client cleartext. I think the HRR thing is similar. I don't react quite as strongly negatively to that as some other people, but either a mandatory ack or an implicit ack would solve it - while leaving it technically unconnected persists the problem. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/879#issuecomment-341146729 ----==_mimepart_59f9eca2719f3_68ba3fe3fd856f301124842 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

(not specific to hrr) There is a general weirdness where you can send = a client initial and then receive server cleartext but not an ack of the = client initial leading to simultaneous (or even out of order) sending of = more client initials and client cleartext. I think the HRR thing is simil= ar. I don't react quite as strongly negatively to that as some other peop= le, but either a mandatory ack or an implicit ack would solve it - while = leaving it technically unconnected persists the problem.

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Currently I believe we're in a state where we use implicit acks, but w= e also ack the handshake packets, so I think one could use either signal = in their implementation. However, it's illegal to bundle the ack of the = handshake packet with the handshake packet itself.

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= ----==_mimepart_59f9f1c9c673d_3cc73feadbeeaf381505af-- From nobody Wed Nov 1 13:43:07 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6F1813F687 for ; Wed, 1 Nov 2017 13:43:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.019 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.019 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id G27QUp6N8CGy for ; Wed, 1 Nov 2017 13:43:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from o11.sgmail.github.com (o11.sgmail.github.com [167.89.101.202]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2D2B213FD83 for ; Wed, 1 Nov 2017 13:43:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=Bu6tvp6aZpd2FATCTrGzNve3dSg=; b=Q4RtZaT5dg0uedtR XoYL2kqh7UjixV2epge7DdWe+9Ix/Ao7196KbF95Va635mtir7tyiwq3snZa45kR Lf7SLtyVfQczMSoSHwNSFdRD4RDAISPElxFrm3E+WuWRbTzkvf1EiSGCukVn9yM3 /nFPTk4Ym6zQXbQEzQMHdmleK4Q= Received: by filter0806p1mdw1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0806p1mdw1-20084-59FA31D6-23 2017-11-01 20:43:02.936188847 +0000 UTC Received: from github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net [192.30.253.16]) by ismtpd0001p1iad1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id m03fX2VvR8yvJS-kCa1dvw for ; Wed, 01 Nov 2017 20:43:02.868 +0000 (UTC) Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2017 20:43:03 +0000 (UTC) From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] RTT Measurement for HelloRetryRequest (#879) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_59fa31d6b8708_481b3fd0f1a6af34309737"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak3UzidEXIyW+YhPtuFhK/IEv9S/V9YNk/xYxV pGUduPY99nBeezb2FDe8Ig34BDmwvXZCT313IR5SNNVgKe5GHt3t883eA68lPRixxJ29XPaCDrKKQr 6uYUUYnGJ6xJss2I1i8gK64Z1IS/O2+Zo62Z27cGo0hgY4obCtXhoj8He45igxztq/wywffm8rygFn Y= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2017 20:43:06 -0000 ----==_mimepart_59fa31d6b8708_481b3fd0f1a6af34309737 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In Handshake packets (I'll use the new names...), we allow - and even encourage - the presence of ACK frames. Normal rules apply there. Given that there might be multiple Handshake packets, there might be an ACK in some but not others, but that's all fairly standard logic. In other words, Handshake packets don't need this special consideration. This also doesn't apply to an Initial packet that is sent in response to a Retry packet, because we expect the server not to maintain state. Though it could, we expect that it doesn't, and so it won't be starting its RTT measurement until it receives Handshake packets from the client, on the next go 'round. This question is specific to the Retry packet, which is singular and contains a way to precisely identify the Initial packet (it echoes the packet number). You do really need to ensure that you treat receipt of a Retry packet as an implicit acknowledgment, if only so that you stop sending the same Initial packet. The question then is whether it is - for the purposes of priming RTT measurements - better to use the implicit acknowledgment information always, or to use the same ACK-handling pathways that would be otherwise used. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/879#issuecomment-341236094 ----==_mimepart_59fa31d6b8708_481b3fd0f1a6af34309737 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

In Handshake packets (I'll use the new names...), we allow - and even en= courage - the presence of ACK frames. Normal rules apply there. Given tha= t there might be multiple Handshake packets, there might be an ACK in some = but not others, but that's all fairly standard logic. In other words, Hand= shake packets don't need this special consideration.

This also doesn't apply to an Initial packet that is sent in response to= a Retry packet, because we expect the server not to maintain state. Thoug= h it could, we expect that it doesn't, and so it won't be starting its RTT = measurement until it receives Handshake packets from the client, on the nex= t go 'round.

This question is specific to the Retry packet, which is singular and con= tains a way to precisely identify the Initial packet (it echoes the packet = number). You do really need to ensure that you treat receipt of a Retry pa= cket as an implicit acknowledgment, if only so that you stop sending the sa= me Initial packet. The question then is whether it is - for the purposes o= f priming RTT measurements - better to use the implicit acknowledgment info= rmation always, or to use the same ACK-handling pathways that would be othe= rwise used.

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@mar= tinthomson well said. I think you've clearly articulated the choices.

Not that we're voting, but your phrasing, "or to use the same ACK-handli= ng pathways that would be otherwise used" is super compelling to me. If we = always use the same ACK-handling pathway to deduce RTT, that makes implemen= tations simpler. So that's definitely my preference.

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In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> @@ -1287,6 +1287,13 @@ Similarly, there is no need to increase the number of allowed streams until the
 handshake completes.
 
 
+### Handshake Failures
+
+The `CONNECTION_CLOSE` frame MAY be sent by either endpoint during the handshake
+to signal a fatal error with connection establishment.  A `STREAM` frame
+carrying a TLS alert MAY be included in the same packet.
+

Maybe we should add a note in the next section, "Denial of Service with Unprotected Packets". Sending "connection close" frames in Server Clear Text or Client Clear Text packets would be another way to deny connection.

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I need to confirm that PADDING frames generate acknowledgments. I think= that they do, but the text needs to be clearer. This is the best I could = find:

A receiver that is only sending ACK frames will not receive acknowledgme= nts for its packets. Sending an occasional MAX_DATA or MAX_STREAM_DATA fram= e as data is received will ensure that acknowledgements are generated by a = peer. Otherwise, an endpoint MAY send a PING frame once per RTT to solicit = an acknowledgment.

Is it possible to rephrase this so that it mentions frame types that we = know generate acknowledgments (like PING)?

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I trust that you will manage the upload to the datatracker and linking from the agenda. I don't have that power.

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Add draft of invariants presentation.

Source: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1maoA_7DzgnlHyrdgTBG1jafyZJwAY-p4OklT63mrrX8/edit?usp=sharing

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----==_mimepart_5a025df1de269_d7a3fbd7108ef303612e9-- From nobody Tue Nov 7 18:09:07 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C134F12AF6E for ; Tue, 7 Nov 2017 18:09:05 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.402 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.402 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9frzZVaQrcDO for ; Tue, 7 Nov 2017 18:09:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from o4.sgmail.github.com (o4.sgmail.github.com [192.254.112.99]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3153912EB1A for ; Tue, 7 Nov 2017 18:09:04 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=lvNS8RGGwJPGlEgafxf/03GclpE=; b=MFP1/EQCyOGPYb3G z2YjRGWImkJtAtsFaC1mMXT4RDcSCpug0W1QXLGlz/V5II3MGcYZKrDBx5s5H1i+ IrNm1bvJcMDdlDnZRSRQ82i6CZ2PzRGigOhGfnHCtwzo0zdquePze0xnqNTPFRO/ O3x2PXnUvgoM4e5NWpHGO88p+W0= Received: by filter0980p1mdw1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0980p1mdw1-2031-5A02673F-D 2017-11-08 02:09:03.164571382 +0000 UTC Received: from github-smtp2b-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (github-smtp2b-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net [192.30.253.17]) by ismtpd0006p1iad1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id LByspA5aRDegppYyjAZdNg for ; Wed, 08 Nov 2017 02:09:03.154 +0000 (UTC) Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2017 02:09:03 +0000 (UTC) From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] QUIC ack frames now store more than 255 ack ranges (#906) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5a02673f11d36_7ead3f9de27b2f2c48761"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org tracking: X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak0//6ITBgPviXfKSD/9w34/6HiP7ISCem2mXr jAEa1j3CI8gUOMYa+gErfTgLZacE0QtDtn1y+Ququs3jfyLbE1WDyVRe21FnnniA2m7eLLQd5ktR50 rWMv4H2ORYaMI3m0vwayNTH/8wO/IWPS3i44LCbz7MyEaVwEbAr/sqaOiK+//TSrbkSorFHIOxXvaY w= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2017 02:09:06 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5a02673f11d36_7ead3f9de27b2f2c48761 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The existing text in the transport and recovery draft indicates QUIC ack frames can ack up to 255 ranges. Now that we're using variable length integers, we can ack more than that. I'm not sure if that's a good thing or a bad thing, but at the least, we should update the text to be self-consistent. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/906 ----==_mimepart_5a02673f11d36_7ead3f9de27b2f2c48761 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

The existing text in the transport and recovery draft indicates QUIC ack frames can ack up to 255 ranges. Now that we're using variable length integers, we can ack more than that.

I'm not sure if that's a good thing or a bad thing, but at the least, we should update the text to be self-consistent.

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Clarify when to send ACK frames in the transport doc, as discussed in Seattle.

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@mar= tinthomson The current text intends to say ALL frames generate acknowle= dgements except ACK frames. Hence only packets that only contain ACK_FRAME= s do not generate acknowledgements.

I'd rather no call out every frame that is expected to cause an ACK_FRAM= E to be sent, since it's all minus 1.

I need to clarify this and other text after discussion in Seattle, so I = sent out PR #907

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I like this structure. I apologize for probably re-reviewing text that you probably just moved, but it's hard to track the actual changes and we could improve on things more. Feel free to push back or open new issues if you disagree. > @@ -2427,6 +2407,32 @@ ACK Block (repeated): packets preceding the largest packet number, as determined by the preceding Gap. +### Sending ACK Frames + +Implementations MUST NOT generate packets that only contain ACK frames in +response to packets which only contain ACK frames. However, they SHOULD I think that we want to MUST here. Requiring that all received packets be acknowledged is good for the protocol. > @@ -2427,6 +2407,32 @@ ACK Block (repeated): packets preceding the largest packet number, as determined by the preceding Gap. +### Sending ACK Frames + +Implementations MUST NOT generate packets that only contain ACK frames in +response to packets which only contain ACK frames. However, they SHOULD +acknowledge packets containing only ACK frames when sending ACK frames in +response to other packets. Implementations MUST NOT send more than one ACK +frame per received packet that contains frames other than ACK frames. Packets This doesn't make sense to me: I can receive a packet that contains other than ACK frames (which is the norm, I would expect). But I might send more than one ACK frame over time. I think that what you intend to say here is part of a different statement. That is, every time a packet that contains more than just ACK frames is received, an implementation schedules an ACK frame to be sent in a new packet. This might be immediately, but more often it will be delayed slightly. Delaying acknowledgment in this way ensures that packets arriving in rapid succession only induce a single packet in response or that acknowledgments can be sent together with stream data. Either way, fewer packets are sent, and fewer packets containing only ACK frames. Packets containing only ACK frames that are generated as a result of incoming packets MUST NOT be generated at a rate higher than the rate of incoming packets. Otherwise there would be in amplification in the number of packets, if not the number of bytes being exchanged. > @@ -2427,6 +2407,32 @@ ACK Block (repeated): packets preceding the largest packet number, as determined by the preceding Gap. +### Sending ACK Frames + +Implementations MUST NOT generate packets that only contain ACK frames in +response to packets which only contain ACK frames. However, they SHOULD +acknowledge packets containing only ACK frames when sending ACK frames in +response to other packets. Implementations MUST NOT send more than one ACK +frame per received packet that contains frames other than ACK frames. Packets +containing non ACK frames MUST be acknowledged immediately or when a delayed +ack timer expires. + +To limit ACK blocks to those that have not yet been received by the sender, the +receiver SHOULD track which ACK frames have been acknowledged by its peer. Once Could we also recommend or at least suggest tracking what acknowledgments are outstanding (sent but not yet acknowledged)? There might be some value in not re-sending all unacknowledged acknowledgments (where ack_delay_timer << RTT especially). > + +To limit ACK blocks to those that have not yet been received by the sender, the +receiver SHOULD track which ACK frames have been acknowledged by its peer. Once +an ACK frame has been acknowledged, the packets it acknowledges SHOULD NOT be +acknowledged again. + +A receiver that is only sending ACK frames will not receive acknowledgments for +its packets. Sending an occasional MAX_DATA or MAX_STREAM_DATA frame as data is +received will ensure that acknowledgements are generated by a peer. Otherwise, +an endpoint MAY send a PING frame once per RTT to solicit an acknowledgment. + +To limit receiver state or the size of ACK frames, a receiver MAY limit the +number of ACK blocks it sends. A receiver can do this even without receiving +acknowledgment of its ACK frames, with the knowledge this could cause the sender +to unnecessarily retransmit some data. When this is necessary, the receiver +SHOULD acknowledge newly received packets and stop acknowledging packets I think that s/SHOULD/can/ I don't think that we want to mandate anything here. That is, unless your intent was to say that acknowledging the most recently received packets is preferable, but then I would say "if acknowledgments are removed rather than retransmitted, a receiver SHOULD discard acknowledgments with the lowest packet number first". 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@martinthomson approved this pull request.

I like this structure.

I apologize for probably re-reviewing text that you probably just moved, but it's hard to track the actual changes and we could improve on things more.

Feel free to push back or open new issues if you disagree.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2427,6 +2407,32 @@ ACK Block (repeated):
   packets preceding the largest packet number, as determined by the
   preceding Gap.
 
+### Sending ACK Frames
+
+Implementations MUST NOT generate packets that only contain ACK frames in
+response to packets which only contain ACK frames. However, they SHOULD

I think that we want to MUST here. Requiring that all received packets be acknowledged is good for the protocol.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2427,6 +2407,32 @@ ACK Block (repeated):
   packets preceding the largest packet number, as determined by the
   preceding Gap.
 
+### Sending ACK Frames
+
+Implementations MUST NOT generate packets that only contain ACK frames in
+response to packets which only contain ACK frames. However, they SHOULD
+acknowledge packets containing only ACK frames when sending ACK frames in
+response to other packets.  Implementations MUST NOT send more than one ACK
+frame per received packet that contains frames other than ACK frames.  Packets

This doesn't make sense to me:

I can receive a packet that contains other than ACK frames (which is the norm, I would expect). But I might send more than one ACK frame over time. I think that what you intend to say here is part of a different statement.

That is, every time a packet that contains more than just ACK frames is received, an implementation schedules an ACK frame to be sent in a new packet. This might be immediately, but more often it will be delayed slightly. Delaying acknowledgment in this way ensures that packets arriving in rapid succession only induce a single packet in response or that acknowledgments can be sent together with stream data. Either way, fewer packets are sent, and fewer packets containing only ACK frames. Packets containing only ACK frames that are generated as a result of incoming packets MUST NOT be generated at a rate higher than the rate of incoming packets. Otherwise there would be in amplification in the number of packets, if not the number of bytes being exchanged.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2427,6 +2407,32 @@ ACK Block (repeated):
   packets preceding the largest packet number, as determined by the
   preceding Gap.
 
+### Sending ACK Frames
+
+Implementations MUST NOT generate packets that only contain ACK frames in
+response to packets which only contain ACK frames. However, they SHOULD
+acknowledge packets containing only ACK frames when sending ACK frames in
+response to other packets.  Implementations MUST NOT send more than one ACK
+frame per received packet that contains frames other than ACK frames.  Packets
+containing non ACK frames MUST be acknowledged immediately or when a delayed
+ack timer expires.
+
+To limit ACK blocks to those that have not yet been received by the sender, the
+receiver SHOULD track which ACK frames have been acknowledged by its peer.  Once

Could we also recommend or at least suggest tracking what acknowledgments are outstanding (sent but not yet acknowledged)? There might be some value in not re-sending all unacknowledged acknowledgments (where ack_delay_timer << RTT especially).

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +
+To limit ACK blocks to those that have not yet been received by the sender, the
+receiver SHOULD track which ACK frames have been acknowledged by its peer.  Once
+an ACK frame has been acknowledged, the packets it acknowledges SHOULD NOT be
+acknowledged again.
+
+A receiver that is only sending ACK frames will not receive acknowledgments for
+its packets.  Sending an occasional MAX_DATA or MAX_STREAM_DATA frame as data is
+received will ensure that acknowledgements are generated by a peer.  Otherwise,
+an endpoint MAY send a PING frame once per RTT to solicit an acknowledgment.
+
+To limit receiver state or the size of ACK frames, a receiver MAY limit the
+number of ACK blocks it sends.  A receiver can do this even without receiving
+acknowledgment of its ACK frames, with the knowledge this could cause the sender
+to unnecessarily retransmit some data.  When this is necessary, the receiver
+SHOULD acknowledge newly received packets and stop acknowledging packets

I think that s/SHOULD/can/ I don't think that we want to mandate anything here.

That is, unless your intent was to say that acknowledging the most recently received packets is preferable, but then I would say "if acknowledgments are removed rather than retransmitted, a receiver SHOULD discard acknowledgments with the lowest packet number first". Or something along those lines.

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----==_mimepart_5a029d724fcac_50dc3fea51438f34247835-- From nobody Tue Nov 7 23:15:36 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABDAD131542 for ; Tue, 7 Nov 2017 23:15:23 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.02 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.02 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MixbuMHRRUjh for ; Tue, 7 Nov 2017 23:15:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from o7.sgmail.github.com (o7.sgmail.github.com [167.89.101.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8FF20131576 for ; Tue, 7 Nov 2017 23:14:58 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=QlGbcAwSTqGWdYd81HgsgSFQ0Oo=; b=FzmIgSEieAtohHhE MGESIGUPY2PaoOx+dOx7q3iJdZI/wDCj0dk+GZ/EdnQlCFZF5/kic9Gytpu2S5WD WZyhXiW2d6THgKnuWXA5tu1NrzCT7aJc7l8rAZ7T1dliJWnbHn/Vv1bKAtXHcs+5 SJtzIUPqqU/0cZ4slpO249Gv3CA= Received: by filter0495p1iad2.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0495p1iad2-27547-5A02AEF1-9 2017-11-08 07:14:57.406793069 +0000 UTC Received: from github-smtp2b-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (github-smtp2b-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net [192.30.253.17]) by ismtpd0009p1iad2.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id Zt9tRJqFRHeAKrFBiaHCzg for ; Wed, 08 Nov 2017 07:14:57.421 +0000 (UTC) Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2017 07:14:57 +0000 (UTC) From: janaiyengar Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Clarify when to send acks (#907) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5a02aef1459fc_6b003f8708c8cf347525dd"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: janaiyengar X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org tracking: X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak1RTYGdrNV2taAPMUcSVHbel/txYB5YbPaXXY ibwybUsLuKkeTnQjwuWQkF0DmvhxT9WU+Y16R/s6xgSXcwizyb8zSzaXhtGvYlZA2YO+UWh078h8WQ r0oYxKYRC+om3CehBibct+22yWi999w5OfBFlU3++bY5u74KJY9H+Rrw7U68wCkvyo1gtC+w7CFRLi E= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2017 07:15:24 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5a02aef1459fc_6b003f8708c8cf347525dd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit janaiyengar commented on this pull request. > @@ -2427,6 +2407,32 @@ ACK Block (repeated): packets preceding the largest packet number, as determined by the preceding Gap. +### Sending ACK Frames + +Implementations MUST NOT generate packets that only contain ACK frames in +response to packets which only contain ACK frames. However, they SHOULD Yeah, agreed. I don't think there's a good reason to not ack these packets when an ACK frame is being sent anyways. > @@ -2427,6 +2407,32 @@ ACK Block (repeated): packets preceding the largest packet number, as determined by the preceding Gap. +### Sending ACK Frames + +Implementations MUST NOT generate packets that only contain ACK frames in +response to packets which only contain ACK frames. However, they SHOULD +acknowledge packets containing only ACK frames when sending ACK frames in +response to other packets. Implementations MUST NOT send more than one ACK +frame per received packet that contains frames other than ACK frames. Packets +containing non ACK frames MUST be acknowledged immediately or when a delayed +ack timer expires. + +To limit ACK blocks to those that have not yet been received by the sender, the +receiver SHOULD track which ACK frames have been acknowledged by its peer. Once Perhaps a suggestion, but I think we should encourage receivers to re-ack as much as they can, for resilience and performance. How about something like: "In every ACK frame, a receiver SHOULD attempt to acknowledge all received packets whose acknowledgement is not yet known to have reached the sender. However, a receiver MAY avoid re-acknowledging all of them in subsequent ACK frames, and it may track outstanding acknowledgements to do so. Note that doing so reduces the connection's resilience to loss of acknowledgements." I think the wording could be improved, but something like this? > + +To limit ACK blocks to those that have not yet been received by the sender, the +receiver SHOULD track which ACK frames have been acknowledged by its peer. Once +an ACK frame has been acknowledged, the packets it acknowledges SHOULD NOT be +acknowledged again. + +A receiver that is only sending ACK frames will not receive acknowledgments for +its packets. Sending an occasional MAX_DATA or MAX_STREAM_DATA frame as data is +received will ensure that acknowledgements are generated by a peer. Otherwise, +an endpoint MAY send a PING frame once per RTT to solicit an acknowledgment. + +To limit receiver state or the size of ACK frames, a receiver MAY limit the +number of ACK blocks it sends. A receiver can do this even without receiving +acknowledgment of its ACK frames, with the knowledge this could cause the sender +to unnecessarily retransmit some data. When this is necessary, the receiver +SHOULD acknowledge newly received packets and stop acknowledging packets lowest packet number isn't necessarily the one that was the oldest. What you want really is to discard acks for the earliest received packets. I'm not concerned about the SHOULD here, I think that's fine... but I'm also fine with replacing that with a "can". > @@ -2427,6 +2407,32 @@ ACK Block (repeated): packets preceding the largest packet number, as determined by the preceding Gap. +### Sending ACK Frames + +Implementations MUST NOT generate packets that only contain ACK frames in +response to packets which only contain ACK frames. However, they SHOULD +acknowledge packets containing only ACK frames when sending ACK frames in +response to other packets. Implementations MUST NOT send more than one ACK +frame per received packet that contains frames other than ACK frames. Packets +containing non ACK frames MUST be acknowledged immediately or when a delayed +ack timer expires. + +To limit ACK blocks to those that have not yet been received by the sender, the +receiver SHOULD track which ACK frames have been acknowledged by its peer. Once Hm. I think this is captured in the "to limit receiver state below". 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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2427,6 +2407,32 @@ ACK Block (repeated):
   packets preceding the largest packet number, as determined by the
   preceding Gap.
 
+### Sending ACK Frames
+
+Implementations MUST NOT generate packets that only contain ACK frames in
+response to packets which only contain ACK frames. However, they SHOULD

Yeah, agreed. I don't think there's a good reason to not ack these packets when an ACK frame is being sent anyways.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2427,6 +2407,32 @@ ACK Block (repeated):
   packets preceding the largest packet number, as determined by the
   preceding Gap.
 
+### Sending ACK Frames
+
+Implementations MUST NOT generate packets that only contain ACK frames in
+response to packets which only contain ACK frames. However, they SHOULD
+acknowledge packets containing only ACK frames when sending ACK frames in
+response to other packets.  Implementations MUST NOT send more than one ACK
+frame per received packet that contains frames other than ACK frames.  Packets
+containing non ACK frames MUST be acknowledged immediately or when a delayed
+ack timer expires.
+
+To limit ACK blocks to those that have not yet been received by the sender, the
+receiver SHOULD track which ACK frames have been acknowledged by its peer.  Once

Perhaps a suggestion, but I think we should encourage receivers to re-ack as much as they can, for resilience and performance. How about something like: "In every ACK frame, a receiver SHOULD attempt to acknowledge all received packets whose acknowledgement is not yet known to have reached the sender. However, a receiver MAY avoid re-acknowledging all of them in subsequent ACK frames, and it may track outstanding acknowledgements to do so. Note that doing so reduces the connection's resilience to loss of acknowledgements." I think the wording could be improved, but something like this?

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +
+To limit ACK blocks to those that have not yet been received by the sender, the
+receiver SHOULD track which ACK frames have been acknowledged by its peer.  Once
+an ACK frame has been acknowledged, the packets it acknowledges SHOULD NOT be
+acknowledged again.
+
+A receiver that is only sending ACK frames will not receive acknowledgments for
+its packets.  Sending an occasional MAX_DATA or MAX_STREAM_DATA frame as data is
+received will ensure that acknowledgements are generated by a peer.  Otherwise,
+an endpoint MAY send a PING frame once per RTT to solicit an acknowledgment.
+
+To limit receiver state or the size of ACK frames, a receiver MAY limit the
+number of ACK blocks it sends.  A receiver can do this even without receiving
+acknowledgment of its ACK frames, with the knowledge this could cause the sender
+to unnecessarily retransmit some data.  When this is necessary, the receiver
+SHOULD acknowledge newly received packets and stop acknowledging packets

lowest packet number isn't necessarily the one that was the oldest. What you want really is to discard acks for the earliest received packets. I'm not concerned about the SHOULD here, I think that's fine... but I'm also fine with replacing that with a "can".

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2427,6 +2407,32 @@ ACK Block (repeated):
   packets preceding the largest packet number, as determined by the
   preceding Gap.
 
+### Sending ACK Frames
+
+Implementations MUST NOT generate packets that only contain ACK frames in
+response to packets which only contain ACK frames. However, they SHOULD
+acknowledge packets containing only ACK frames when sending ACK frames in
+response to other packets.  Implementations MUST NOT send more than one ACK
+frame per received packet that contains frames other than ACK frames.  Packets
+containing non ACK frames MUST be acknowledged immediately or when a delayed
+ack timer expires.
+
+To limit ACK blocks to those that have not yet been received by the sender, the
+receiver SHOULD track which ACK frames have been acknowledged by its peer.  Once

Hm. I think this is captured in the "to limit receiver state below". Do we need any more text here? I think it may still be valuable to state the first sentence in my suggestion above perhaps?

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +
+To limit ACK blocks to those that have not yet been received by the sender, the
+receiver SHOULD track which ACK frames have been acknowledged by its peer.  Once
+an ACK frame has been acknowledged, the packets it acknowledges SHOULD NOT be
+acknowledged again.
+
+A receiver that is only sending ACK frames will not receive acknowledgments for
+its packets.  Sending an occasional MAX_DATA or MAX_STREAM_DATA frame as data is
+received will ensure that acknowledgements are generated by a peer.  Otherwise,
+an endpoint MAY send a PING frame once per RTT to solicit an acknowledgment.
+
+To limit receiver state or the size of ACK frames, a receiver MAY limit the
+number of ACK blocks it sends.  A receiver can do this even without receiving
+acknowledgment of its ACK frames, with the knowledge this could cause the sender
+to unnecessarily retransmit some data.  When this is necessary, the receiver
+SHOULD acknowledge newly received packets and stop acknowledging packets

It's oldest at the sender, so I am assuming that it will be marked as lost first (or might have already).

Separately, should we also note that dropping ACKs causes packets to be marked as lost causes congestion control to receive a warped signal?

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----==_mimepart_5a036691684cd_38413f89f702af38562158-- From nobody Wed Nov 8 15:52:32 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7F5312778E for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2017 15:52:30 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.8 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.8 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-2.8, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qCrsdVtaYWQm for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2017 15:52:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from o6.sgmail.github.com (o6.sgmail.github.com [192.254.113.101]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1AAF6128D6F for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2017 15:52:12 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=YVFp+9AdQsR1mYHyzQ3T864OvhY=; b=MNhB+/e5+TddqRHd 02VjkRh3YU9z0ce7MLldt3pd2D3RDc2V/URyIWm02OySgAAw/FL9TRTkLxorVQW3 UXKwvSBcuDNmieCgSnDF8r27G032Q750LMmjA4xhLTF1gZ2oUsWN0VQ3Ehj5ILFX JH8h8CJ6g6B/GmoOM6YZRgiuFu0= Received: by filter0612p1iad2.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0612p1iad2-10163-5A0398AA-3F 2017-11-08 23:52:10.834403011 +0000 UTC Received: from github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net [192.30.253.16]) by ismtpd0005p1iad2.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id 4NfLdShkRyOt3uItXJsG6Q for ; Wed, 08 Nov 2017 23:52:10.814 +0000 (UTC) Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2017 23:52:11 +0000 (UTC) From: martinduke Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] PMTUD details (#614) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5a0398aaab533_178b3fa862252f3416898"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinduke X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org tracking: X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak0bxF3RmBl/l3NWW0FMggA5d9TPvvdmzzjyj0 nfvzYTAf6cuDP2PWul7u+ZfbItPN7z4sBdINMkalqhXNxx10c+BO60cZxfD29/Sl/2P2kqj/T9+ixm v1eRYZ030WYQ47lll9JIqaGdoSGmjxf3cYzjppqVy6JPP9aB9Vhtl4Ue/bkXEY9vkbUT8XM37SL9MM o= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2017 23:52:31 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5a0398aaab533_178b3fa862252f3416898 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @gloinul, Responses inline: > @martinduke I have also re-read RFC 4821. And I first of all I think being explicit on the things you consider redundant is the better approach. This from the aspect, that if we can spend time to write a sentence or two, and save time and get more consistent behavior from implementations it is well spent time in my view. Fair enough. Expect a revised PR #849 shortly. > > Additional issues worth discussing in the text are: > > ICMP verification for any received Message to too Big (Not only relevant for PMTUD). This is likely rather straightforward, but do require the QUIC implementation to be able to match the truncated part of the encrypted QUIC packet against itself. This likely implies storing X number of bytes of the encrypted packet for this verification. Or will we actually use any encryption that will be able to perform partial decryption and use that to verify that these initial bytes matches valid QUIC headers? I believe these considerations have long been addressed in "Special considerations for PMTU Discovery". > Issues with setting DF bit from user land (as SHOULD requirement) in 4821. It is somewhat discussed in RFC4821, but clearly an issue for many QUIC implementations. What advancements since 4821 is it worth bringing up here? I acknowledge that user-land QUIC implementations may have issues, but I am utterly at a loss as to what to say about it. Can you suggest some text? > > Storage and reuse of PMTUD information in stack instance releated to differnet paths. Applies for multi-path as well as implementations opening a number of connections. At a minimum a clear definition of what QUIC semantics corresponds to a path, and thus can have different MTU values. In the existing text, it says: "QUIC endpoints that implement any kind of PMTU discovery SHOULD maintain an estimate for each combination of local and remote IP addresses (as each pairing could have a different maximum MTU in the path)." Is that insufficient, in your view? > For user-land QUIC implementation it can actually be a bit of a challenge to correctly know how much headers would be added. A challenging example would be QUIC over ICE in a WebRTC context. Where it is actually the ICE stack that controlls which path and what headers and NAT/FW traversal mechanism are in place, such as TURN that changes the header overhead between candidate pairs. This is in relation to RFC 4821 Section 5.1. Again, I recognize the problem but am at a loss for what to write. Can you suggest text? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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@gloinul, Responses inline:

@martin= duke I have also re-read RFC 4821. And I first of all I think being exp= licit on the things you consider redundant is the better approach. This fro= m the aspect, that if we can spend time to write a sentence or two, and sav= e time and get more consistent behavior from implementations it is well spe= nt time in my view.

Fair enough. Expect a revised PR #849 shortly.

Additional issues worth discussing in the text are:

ICMP verification for any received Message to too Big (Not only relevant= for PMTUD). This is likely rather straightforward, but do require the QUIC= implementation to be able to match the truncated part of the encrypted QUI= C packet against itself. This likely implies storing X number of bytes of t= he encrypted packet for this verification. Or will we actually use any encr= yption that will be able to perform partial decryption and use that to veri= fy that these initial bytes matches valid QUIC headers?

I believe these considerations have long been addressed in "Special cons= iderations for PMTU Discovery".

Issues with setting DF bit from user land (as SHOULD requirement) in 482= 1. It is somewhat discussed in RFC4821, but clearly an issue for many QUIC = implementations. What advancements since 4821 is it worth bringing up here?=

I acknowledge that user-land QUIC implementations may have issues, but I= am utterly at a loss as to what to say about it. Can you suggest some text= ?

Storage and reuse of PMTUD information in stack instance releated to dif= fernet paths. Applies for multi-path as well as implementations opening a n= umber of connections. At a minimum a clear definition of what QUIC semantic= s corresponds to a path, and thus can have different MTU values.

In the existing text, it says:
"QUIC endpoints that implement any kind of PMTU discovery SHOULD maintain a= n
estimate for each combination of local and remote IP addresses (as each pai= ring
could have a different maximum MTU in the path)."
Is that insufficient, in your view?

For user-land QUIC implementation it can actually be a bit of a challeng= e to correctly know how much headers would be added. A challenging example = would be QUIC over ICE in a WebRTC context. Where it is actually the ICE st= ack that controlls which path and what headers and NAT/FW traversal mechani= sm are in place, such as TURN that changes the header overhead between cand= idate pairs. This is in relation to RFC 4821 Section 5.1.

Again, I recognize the problem but am at a loss for what to write. Can y= ou suggest text?

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This builds on #891 and applies the agreed principles to the question of denial of service prior to handshake completion.

Note that this does not address the concern @huitema raised about the second client flight. Someone needs to come up with a proposal for that. Right now, that flight is also subject to denial of service.

You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/908

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  • Rework denial of service on unprotected packets

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In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> @@ -1287,6 +1287,13 @@ Similarly, there is no need to increase the number of allowed streams until the
 handshake completes.
 
 
+### Handshake Failures
+
+The `CONNECTION_CLOSE` frame MAY be sent by either endpoint during the handshake
+to signal a fatal error with connection establishment.  A `STREAM` frame
+carrying a TLS alert MAY be included in the same packet.
+

I'll do that separately: see https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/908/files

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----==_mimepart_5a03998b3996d_261b3fa3c4408f381238af-- From nobody Wed Nov 8 16:02:30 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01A2E12778E for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2017 16:02:29 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.616 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.616 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id G8rQEUH_kBBB for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2017 16:02:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from o7.sgmail.github.com (o7.sgmail.github.com [167.89.101.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B10C7127010 for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2017 16:02:27 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=fLxhHn+TQOqA9p4juV36OKNi7dw=; b=uT02pfKwb/LcRJH6 STp/aqslmnEn6wXTCBycyi9wuxCwosNt0y61383mPkS4YKOYCjhpMcGc36xAme1r WZh5/dq5XQXZ5WUg9QzMzQ2xnpUKSbiN9QSQPUdRK70zK8rOSJ2Thz1UKjsX2z6j deC+//5sYKbISZUQdPqSBIezmfg= Received: by filter0190p1iad2.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0190p1iad2-30481-5A039B12-21 2017-11-09 00:02:26.613879418 +0000 UTC Received: from github-smtp2b-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (github-smtp2b-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net [192.30.253.17]) by ismtpd0008p1iad1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id BJoaSYdAQgeVnwAgBtb-pA for ; Thu, 09 Nov 2017 00:02:26.519 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2017 00:02:26 +0000 (UTC) From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] PMTUD details (#614) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5a039b1235d48_57603fc2bc588f2c49685"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org tracking: X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak22UWzkZNUkB0n40XjNZINSLEVk6+nVPVtm2B eq7g9Lpu0zj2QcxwZxOa3QIAUv+BcQTtrRTQKNWauLQ9scMPIHMRgm7E0y5iBU3xQqEUb5wsv6u7GP HF9sVDuR8qRS7J6JjHG9GXB0vmyEWQ2LnkowHv/9N6hsB46iZxwfwKJZu9fsqI/g8zNl3HuUsRdPC9 g= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2017 00:02:29 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5a039b1235d48_57603fc2bc588f2c49685 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The net effect of running on top of ICE, without access to the path selection that ICE is performing, is likely that you end up with the lowest common path MTU over time. It's the same thing as what you get when there is a router that picks different paths through the network without you being aware of it. The MTU you see isn't constant over time, so you likely end up with the lowest value (assuming that you don't ever fixate on a particular value after having observed that value working). -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/614#issuecomment-343002821 ----==_mimepart_5a039b1235d48_57603fc2bc588f2c49685 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

The net effect of running on top of ICE, without access to the path sele= ction that ICE is performing, is likely that you end up with the lowest com= mon path MTU over time. It's the same thing as what you get when there is = a router that picks different paths through the network without you being a= ware of it. The MTU you see isn't constant over time, so you likely end up= with the lowest value (assuming that you don't ever fixate on a particular= value after having observed that value working).

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I'm for treating connection id as a byte sequence as well which I also mentioned in #786.

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Coming back around on this, I think we end up needing something like opt= ion 4 for a simple reason. We need the ability to ack the cleartext data a= nd not ack the 0RTT data if 0RTT fails. So they need different packet numb= ers, even if they're in the same UDP packet. At that point, sticking toget= her two QUIC 'packets' in a single UDP packet would seem the obvious approa= ch.

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I could see multiple long headers in one Packet, but allowing for multiple packets in one MTU affects a lot of machinery.

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----==_mimepart_5a040bd8def9f_74803fd67b67af343649dd-- From nobody Thu Nov 9 00:58:08 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A04B212ECA9 for ; Thu, 9 Nov 2017 00:58:07 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.615 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.615 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zpZqJ67ce87d for ; Thu, 9 Nov 2017 00:58:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from o4.sgmail.github.com (o4.sgmail.github.com [192.254.112.99]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 78BF612ECA3 for ; Thu, 9 Nov 2017 00:58:06 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=wKwggOJS4RuIZaqcNe4iIlJL9t0=; b=ujxr5E/TeWySReMx 2NOLxle+Bn4J+GEwcV1xzqFb8U7gn+7CYQOckT6bx4FcgsJ29qC5JLk/nWBVktcV d7eCG9mEt3FxoZ2Y+sHqF3+2lWoXAI5zuSiMS53RzJzr3SPtEVvuCf21bHGQo8rY eDDp8XSFjnpy3TjcMejmm4GcZbw= Received: by filter0534p1mdw1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0534p1mdw1-21469-5A04189D-2 2017-11-09 08:58:05.514170854 +0000 UTC Received: from github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net [192.30.253.16]) by ismtpd0008p1iad1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id ig1F3mS7TS2lNx3A7REUDQ for ; Thu, 09 Nov 2017 08:58:05.490 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2017 08:58:05 +0000 (UTC) From: Brian Trammell Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] On-path calculation of loss and congestion (#632) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5a04189d5ab76_56093fba7f3e0f3446653a"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: britram X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org tracking: X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak29c13u4XlwZezZd2chZhFKvfH/x3OIDyb2ip hRCVsud16FlT1lIGol3+V2X4TYM1Jb1N1hPYp/G3R7H0ijQeoXWMezRxha+4RqOn3TS2Oea9U/YH8h BuCJ46uuU6w13kcdyWK2dsMbW46rCCLbZg8PoXLr1UUxCcbJa3CKMZcoTN/VmB/rBXTqP87WB+K6JP A= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2017 08:58:08 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5a04189d5ab76_56093fba7f3e0f3446653a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit After discussion in the RTT DT, I agree less with Lars here than I thought I did. For steady-state (large flow, "infinite" application demand) traffic, RTT is sufficient (since RTT gives you bandwidth per RTT gives you effective window size gives you loss/congestion reaction indication). However, for application-limited traffic (effectively anything machine-to-machine, logging and control, ABR media, CBR media, etc.) measuring RTT is difficult, and loss is a better indicator of application-visible performance problems. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/632#issuecomment-343089066 ----==_mimepart_5a04189d5ab76_56093fba7f3e0f3446653a Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

After discussion in the RTT DT, I agree less with Lars here than I thoug= ht I did. For steady-state (large flow, "infinite" application demand) traf= fic, RTT is sufficient (since RTT gives you bandwidth per RTT gives you eff= ective window size gives you loss/congestion reaction indication). However,= for application-limited traffic (effectively anything machine-to-machine, = logging and control, ABR media, CBR media, etc.) measuring RTT is difficult= , and loss is a better indicator of application-visible performance problem= s.

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More than 255 ACK ranges in a packet seems excessive to me. (Honestly 16 is probably fine). I'd be inclined to revert this field back to single byte and limit the number of ranges to 255.

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To build on that idea, avoid adding anything new(ie: a length) to the un= encrypted public header, and make these packets look as much as possible li= ke other QUIC packets, I propose we:

  • Add 4 frame types which indicate the remaining content is packet_number= +1 for the same connection and the encryption level. The header would be o= mitted.

In many cases this would mean encryption inside encryption, but I don't = think that's a big problem in practice.

Admittedly, getting a framer to frame one of these is a bit of hassle, b= ut it seems potentially useful for the HTTP case, since you may be able to = send a request and/or header compression info along with the CHLO. The CHL= O is padded and head of line blocking for the entire connection, so this wo= uld be a strict performance win.

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One other consideration, depending on how the proposals line up. Recall= that one of the other HTTP/2 compression proposals had a much larger stati= c table, containing nearly every registered status code, etc. The static t= able occupies the easiest-to-address range in HTTP/2, which means it needs = to be small. The latest version of QPACK addresses them independently, whi= ch would enable a large static table without hurting the dynamic table perf= ormance.

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= ----==_mimepart_5a04c26ab6841_28973f90a0280f30298583-- From nobody Thu Nov 9 13:15:06 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B58C129B26 for ; Thu, 9 Nov 2017 13:15:05 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.181 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.181 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-2.8, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id t4T8V0_tpUPv for ; Thu, 9 Nov 2017 13:15:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from o5.sgmail.github.com (o5.sgmail.github.com [192.254.113.10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7A88B129B72 for ; Thu, 9 Nov 2017 13:15:03 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=Y4btOSneHKB59XN2WVBJY7qOGmM=; b=prRpRldmI6EnIklD Lpipi87xLg7VM0f3NvesyqfEiKiuGWttVcFM//ILVIMb9E2fvIv1XpwKgD+E4+3v F/RTbF2s7raZ2jYUa2qCpkDHj7eJvep30lGv4GKPNRw++AF6j+Dkti2pKFePFVY4 VrqEvmGeGGlYf72ZgN+wYGt4XdE= Received: by filter0464p1iad2.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0464p1iad2-28069-5A04C556-B 2017-11-09 21:15:02.350670071 +0000 UTC Received: from github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net [192.30.253.16]) by ismtpd0006p1iad2.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id smCLBzFpSrq0B2jgEkY2yA for ; Thu, 09 Nov 2017 21:15:02.363 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2017 21:15:02 +0000 (UTC) From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] QUIC ack frames now store more than 255 ack ranges (#906) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5a04c55661291_569d3fd20d8c2f3446626f"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org tracking: X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak0zvKpnlBeisToRtQqbEay5c1GKkEbDeXhfBP H+cFa8nvE9Per9hbfVRhYz+KV4pWhH8p1nUTj/Af6HOlgdGkQxkEI5DMopNEZ+aa+sK7WxhOGHgD9E 9HwSGGO1K5uBWdpRGFcTizqZEkGbX/uvVc5OfTK1nO5hp0XWAytTdSHwfYreuaymJCY6CSQab4KWbs 4= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2017 21:15:05 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5a04c55661291_569d3fd20d8c2f3446626f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit There is value in uniformity. No one has to *use* that many ranges (noting that 255 would be enough to overflow a packet anyway if abuse was the goal). -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/906#issuecomment-343293709 ----==_mimepart_5a04c55661291_569d3fd20d8c2f3446626f Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

There is value in uniformity. No one has to use that many ranges (noting that 255 would be enough to overflow a packet anyway if abuse was the goal).

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Encryption in encryption is a non-starter (for all the reasons we've discussed relating to the analysis of TLS, key usage, etc...).

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To clarify, encrypting something with 0RTT keys inside the handshake AES-GCM is not safe? Any background about why, or is this a case of what's easy to prove?

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Just because we use varints, doesn't mean we always have to, particularly for things which are only a byte. Reading a byte is really not that difficult, so I think the uniformity value is minimal.

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----==_mimepart_5a04cd79f2219_68533fb26b870f346409f-- From nobody Thu Nov 9 14:15:31 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65CB2127077 for ; Thu, 9 Nov 2017 14:15:30 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.019 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.019 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nYNm1it6ytKc for ; Thu, 9 Nov 2017 14:15:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from o10.sgmail.github.com (o10.sgmail.github.com [167.89.101.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E18A11252BA for ; Thu, 9 Nov 2017 14:15:28 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=qQpkO/n3OZIMo9XmwO+AmGj5xiA=; b=pyQ/Y/YGmwldhU6X /yx4blvyZAy6fsXDP/TLz4LbV2W0PnPAmyrBdF7phZGDrqgu09YTeTmLG5l4pXK/ VRmZYEocgl8rWpdyg2p7Qj4PRythpWkSwTDE0s5kyoX6m92u799/uEUDh3x+IUXh 3FzzabeIcxip+nkJDUN3CnW7NFw= Received: by filter0198p1iad2.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0198p1iad2-25372-5A04D37F-33 2017-11-09 22:15:27.828403459 +0000 UTC Received: from github-smtp2b-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (github-smtp2b-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net [192.30.253.17]) by ismtpd0005p1iad2.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id KGIYBSx-T1Wmo139wrePyg for ; Thu, 09 Nov 2017 22:15:27.905 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2017 22:15:27 +0000 (UTC) From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] handshake and 0rtt data in a single packet (#630) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5a04d37f10aa2_6e4e3fab8b0f6f382492bc"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org tracking: X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak3qxkdpunZBgBtHUSZtV6khVFuo/ucK2U4Wbl i2H2agSEIIdbHwzX5sfeT8GoUmnjIyNDQSeVaClY5KzpPFKqAM0U6R6WWtKN23Dj8Y/gRnFf6L+9i1 Wbtxn3cfm/GgcsFG9iCeWEL81Lb0wWnZW1NSw0nac4k3MWsoLDt3eMgQaobZii3LDYO+CuT+BPZncx E= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2017 22:15:30 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5a04d37f10aa2_6e4e3fab8b0f6f382492bc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The analysis of TLS (some analysis, not all), rely on strict separation of proofs. That means that the handshake is assessed independent of the record layer. One condition of that proof is that the keys that the handshake produces are never used to protect the handshake. Otherwise, the proofs get entangled as a result of needing to show that the record layer doesn't abuse the keys in ways that would compromise the record layer. Actually, maybe this is OK in the sense that the AES-GCM isn't really encryption, or related to the handshake at all. But the point remains, it's easier to add a length to the long header and pack multiple records in the same datagram (oops, those are DTLS terms, see DTLS for an example of how this works) than to do double encryption. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/630#issuecomment-343309522 ----==_mimepart_5a04d37f10aa2_6e4e3fab8b0f6f382492bc Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

The analysis of TLS (some analysis, not all), rely on strict separation = of proofs. That means that the handshake is assessed independent of the re= cord layer. One condition of that proof is that the keys that the handshak= e produces are never used to protect the handshake. Otherwise, the proofs = get entangled as a result of needing to show that the record layer doesn't = abuse the keys in ways that would compromise the record layer.

Actually, maybe this is OK in the sense that the AES-GCM isn't really en= cryption, or related to the handshake at all.

But the point remains, it's easier to add a length to the long header an= d pack multiple records in the same datagram (oops, those are DTLS terms, s= ee DTLS for an example of how this works) than to do double encryption.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2427,6 +2407,32 @@ ACK Block (repeated):
   packets preceding the largest packet number, as determined by the
   preceding Gap.
 
+### Sending ACK Frames
+
+Implementations MUST NOT generate packets that only contain ACK frames in
+response to packets which only contain ACK frames. However, they SHOULD
+acknowledge packets containing only ACK frames when sending ACK frames in
+response to other packets.  Implementations MUST NOT send more than one ACK
+frame per received packet that contains frames other than ACK frames.  Packets

This is new text, but I think it's correct. There's no case where receiving one packet generates two ack frames.

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The problem with no limit at all is that it doesn't address the concern = about the exemption. Specifically the part where it is unbounded. Could w= e make a recommendation, similar to the one we have regarding an initial co= ngestion window? Outside of extreme corner cases (like the ones I mentione= d, or cases like @martinduke described), this should hurt and the cost is only a = reduction in throughput for those cases. I think that we can affort to mak= e the exemption pretty generous.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2427,6 +2407,32 @@ ACK Block (repeated):
   packets preceding the largest packet number, as determined by the
   preceding Gap.
 
+### Sending ACK Frames
+
+Implementations MUST NOT generate packets that only contain ACK frames in
+response to packets which only contain ACK frames. However, they SHOULD
+acknowledge packets containing only ACK frames when sending ACK frames in
+response to other packets.  Implementations MUST NOT send more than one ACK
+frame per received packet that contains frames other than ACK frames.  Packets
+containing non ACK frames MUST be acknowledged immediately or when a delayed
+ack timer expires.
+
+To limit ACK blocks to those that have not yet been received by the sender, the
+receiver SHOULD track which ACK frames have been acknowledged by its peer.  Once

I think this limiting of state is described a few paragraphs above.

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I was thinking of recommending something like "When congestion control d= oes not allow sending data, ACK_FRAMEs should be limited to a max of X byte= s in size." One option for X is the max size of a TCP ack frame? Or the t= otal TCP options space? Or some arbitrary value.

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Yeah, that sounds reasonable, but it doesn't limit the rate especially w= ell.

Maybe permit a total overflow of something like a small multiple (2x to = 5x) of the size of a typical TCP ACK, and maybe up to INIT_CWND/MSS times (= i.e., 4 or 10). Just multiply the two values out. Nothing fancy, just a n= umber that is based on things that a) match TCP practice as much as possibl= e, and b) use parameters that reflect current practice as it evolves.

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Thanks, this is a great improvement to the text. Some minor suggestions, but overall looks good. > @@ -2675,201 +2676,289 @@ created, it MUST close the connection with error code STREAM_STATE_ERROR. Stream ID 0 (0x0) is reserved for the cryptographic handshake. Stream 0 MUST NOT be used for application data, and is the first client-initiated stream. -A QUIC endpoint MUST NOT reuse a Stream ID. Streams MUST be created -in sequential order. Open streams can be used in any order. Streams -that are used out of order result in lower-numbered streams in the -same direction being counted as open. +A QUIC endpoint MUST NOT reuse a Stream ID. Open streams can be used in any +order. Streams that are used out of order result in lower-numbered streams in +the same direction being counted as open. There is both direction and type(uni/bidi). You use 'type' below, which seems fine here as well? nit: "being opened." not being counted as opened. > -Once all data has been either received or discarded, a sender is no longer -obligated to update the maximum received data for the connection. +Sending the first STREAM or STREAM_BLOCKED frame to be sent causes a send stream nit: remove "to be sent" > -Due to reordering, an endpoint could continue receiving frames for the stream -even after the stream is closed for sending. Frames received after a peer -closes a stream SHOULD be discarded. An endpoint MAY choose to limit the period -over which it ignores frames and treat frames that arrive after this time as -being in error. +In the "Send" state, an endpoint transmits - and retransmits as necessary - data +in STREAM frames. The endpoint respects the flow control limits of its peer, +accepting MAX_STREAM_DATA frames. It generates STREAM_BLOCKED frames if it You talk about flow control a fair amount here. Is it worth adding a 'blocked' state to the state machine? I'm also happy with this as is and adding it later if we think it's useful. Just a thought. > -The "closed" state is the terminal state for a stream. Reordering might cause -frames to be received after closing, see {{state-hc-remote}}. +{{fig-stream-recv-states}} shows the states for the part of a stream that +receives data from a peer. The states for a receive stream mirror only some the nit: "only some of" > +is "Recv". Receiving a RST_STREAM frame causes the receive stream to +immediately transition to the "Reset Recvd". + +The receive stream enters the "Recv" state when the sending part of a +bidirectional stream initiated by the endpoint (type 0 for a client, type 1 for +a server) enters the "Open" state. + +A bidirectional stream also opens when a MAX_STREAM_DATA frame is received. +Receiving a MAX_STREAM_DATA frame implies that the remote peer has opened the +stream and is providing flow control credit. A MAX_STREAM_DATA frame might +arrive before a STREAM or STREAM_BLOCKED frame if packets are lost or reordered. + +In the "Recv" state, the endpoint receives STREAM and STREAM_BLOCKED frames. +Incoming data is buffered and reassembled into the correct order for delivery to +the application. As data is consumed by the application and buffer space +becomes available, the endpoint sends MAX_STREAM_DATA frames to allow the peer MAY send? > + | Read | | Read | + +-------+ +-------+ +~~~ +{: #fig-stream-recv-states title="States for Receive Streams"} + +The receiving part of a stream initiated by a peer (types 1 and 3 for a client, +or 0 and 2 for a server) are created when the first STREAM, STREAM_BLOCKED, or +RST_STREAM is received for that stream. The initial state for a receive stream +is "Recv". Receiving a RST_STREAM frame causes the receive stream to +immediately transition to the "Reset Recvd". + +The receive stream enters the "Recv" state when the sending part of a +bidirectional stream initiated by the endpoint (type 0 for a client, type 1 for +a server) enters the "Open" state. + +A bidirectional stream also opens when a MAX_STREAM_DATA frame is received. I would move this up a paragraph so it's next to the other frames. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/894#pullrequestreview-75787190 ----==_mimepart_5a05c8e32b2bf_74703fdc44e94f34201844 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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Thanks, this is a great improvement to the text. Some minor suggestions, but overall looks good.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2675,201 +2676,289 @@ created, it MUST close the connection with error code STREAM_STATE_ERROR.
 Stream ID 0 (0x0) is reserved for the cryptographic handshake.  Stream 0 MUST
 NOT be used for application data, and is the first client-initiated stream.
 
-A QUIC endpoint MUST NOT reuse a Stream ID.  Streams MUST be created
-in sequential order.  Open streams can be used in any order.  Streams
-that are used out of order result in lower-numbered streams in the
-same direction being counted as open.
+A QUIC endpoint MUST NOT reuse a Stream ID.  Open streams can be used in any
+order.  Streams that are used out of order result in lower-numbered streams in
+the same direction being counted as open.

There is both direction and type(uni/bidi). You use 'type' below, which seems fine here as well?

nit: "being opened." not being counted as opened.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
-Once all data has been either received or discarded, a sender is no longer
-obligated to update the maximum received data for the connection.
+Sending the first STREAM or STREAM_BLOCKED frame to be sent causes a send stream

nit: remove "to be sent"

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
-Due to reordering, an endpoint could continue receiving frames for the stream
-even after the stream is closed for sending.  Frames received after a peer
-closes a stream SHOULD be discarded.  An endpoint MAY choose to limit the period
-over which it ignores frames and treat frames that arrive after this time as
-being in error.
+In the "Send" state, an endpoint transmits - and retransmits as necessary - data
+in STREAM frames.  The endpoint respects the flow control limits of its peer,
+accepting MAX_STREAM_DATA frames.  It generates STREAM_BLOCKED frames if it

You talk about flow control a fair amount here. Is it worth adding a 'blocked' state to the state machine? I'm also happy with this as is and adding it later if we think it's useful. Just a thought.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
-The "closed" state is the terminal state for a stream.  Reordering might cause
-frames to be received after closing, see {{state-hc-remote}}.
+{{fig-stream-recv-states}} shows the states for the part of a stream that
+receives data from a peer.  The states for a receive stream mirror only some the

nit: "only some of"

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +is "Recv".  Receiving a RST_STREAM frame causes the receive stream to
+immediately transition to the "Reset Recvd".
+
+The receive stream enters the "Recv" state when the sending part of a
+bidirectional stream initiated by the endpoint (type 0 for a client, type 1 for
+a server) enters the "Open" state.
+
+A bidirectional stream also opens when a MAX_STREAM_DATA frame is received.
+Receiving a MAX_STREAM_DATA frame implies that the remote peer has opened the
+stream and is providing flow control credit.  A MAX_STREAM_DATA frame might
+arrive before a STREAM or STREAM_BLOCKED frame if packets are lost or reordered.
+
+In the "Recv" state, the endpoint receives STREAM and STREAM_BLOCKED frames.
+Incoming data is buffered and reassembled into the correct order for delivery to
+the application.  As data is consumed by the application and buffer space
+becomes available, the endpoint sends MAX_STREAM_DATA frames to allow the peer

MAY send?

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +   | Read  |                   | Read  |
+   +-------+                   +-------+
+~~~
+{: #fig-stream-recv-states title="States for Receive Streams"}
+
+The receiving part of a stream initiated by a peer (types 1 and 3 for a client,
+or 0 and 2 for a server) are created when the first STREAM, STREAM_BLOCKED, or
+RST_STREAM is received for that stream.  The initial state for a receive stream
+is "Recv".  Receiving a RST_STREAM frame causes the receive stream to
+immediately transition to the "Reset Recvd".
+
+The receive stream enters the "Recv" state when the sending part of a
+bidirectional stream initiated by the endpoint (type 0 for a client, type 1 for
+a server) enters the "Open" state.
+
+A bidirectional stream also opens when a MAX_STREAM_DATA frame is received.

I would move this up a paragraph so it's next to the other frames.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2427,6 +2407,32 @@ ACK Block (repeated):
   packets preceding the largest packet number, as determined by the
   preceding Gap.
 
+### Sending ACK Frames
+
+Implementations MUST NOT generate packets that only contain ACK frames in
+response to packets which only contain ACK frames. However, they SHOULD
+acknowledge packets containing only ACK frames when sending ACK frames in
+response to other packets.  Implementations MUST NOT send more than one ACK
+frame per received packet that contains frames other than ACK frames.  Packets
+containing non ACK frames MUST be acknowledged immediately or when a delayed
+ack timer expires.
+
+To limit ACK blocks to those that have not yet been received by the sender, the
+receiver SHOULD track which ACK frames have been acknowledged by its peer.  Once

limiting of state is below. I'm making a different point. We don't send stream data that we just sent, so it is possible that duplicating acknowledgments in the same way is inefficient. Now, Jana rightly observes that the cost is low and the benefits high, which is an excellent point, but there might be cases where the cost is high enough (large BDP connections for example) to warrant trimming ACK frames down in size.

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Now we have separate uni and bidirectional stream ID spaces, but initial_max_stream_id in transport parameter does not say it applies to 1) both, or 2) uni only, or 3) bidi only.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
-While STOP_SENDING frames are retransmittable, an implementation MAY choose not
-to retransmit a lost STOP_SENDING frame if the stream has already been closed
-in the appropriate direction since the frame was first generated.
-See {{packetization}}.
+An endpoint is expected to send STOP_SENDING frames if packets containing the
+frame are lost.  However, once either all stream data has been received or a
+RST_STREAM frame - that is, any receive stream state other than "Recv" or "Size
+Known" - sending the frame is not necessary.

Minor nit: This sentence doesn't parse for me.

However, once either all stream data has been received or a RST_STREAM frame sending the frame is not necessary.

Is the idea as below?

An endpoint is expected to only retransmit STOP_SENDING frames for receive stream states "Recv" and "Size Known". For example, if all stream data, or a RST_STREAM frame, has been received, retransmitting STOP_SENDING frames is not necessary.

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I'm wondering if it's time to separate frames into those sent on/about send streams, on/about receive streams, or on the connection. It's been there implicitly, but this change makes it even more glaring. > - -The following transitions are valid from this state: - -Sending or receiving a STREAM or RST_STREAM frame causes the identified stream -to become "open". The stream identifier for a new stream is selected as -described in {{stream-id}}. A RST_STREAM frame, or a STREAM frame with the FIN -flag set also causes a stream to become "half-closed". - -An endpoint might receive MAX_STREAM_DATA or STREAM_BLOCKED frames on -peer-initiated streams that are "idle" if there is loss or reordering of -packets. Receiving these frames also causes the stream to become "open". - -An endpoint MUST NOT send a STREAM or RST_STREAM frame for a stream ID that is -higher than the peers advertised maximum stream ID (see -{{frame-max-stream-id}}). +This section describes the two types of QUIC stream in terms of the states that "states of", I think. Otherwise, this is hard to parse. > -Due to reordering, an endpoint could continue receiving frames for the stream -even after the stream is closed for sending. Frames received after a peer -closes a stream SHOULD be discarded. An endpoint MAY choose to limit the period -over which it ignores frames and treat frames that arrive after this time as -being in error. +In the "Send" state, an endpoint transmits - and retransmits as necessary - data +in STREAM frames. The endpoint respects the flow control limits of its peer, +accepting MAX_STREAM_DATA frames. It generates STREAM_BLOCKED frames if it You'd have to have it sit to the side of Send, though, with the ability to transition from Open to Blocked (no credit to start with) and the ability to oscillate between Blocked and Send, *and* the ability to close or reset from there as well. It feels like it would complicate the concept of the state machine much more than it would clarify. Just say that, while in the Send state, you MUST obey flow control, sending STREAM_BLOCKED if you're stuck. > -A stream in this state can be used by the endpoint to send any frame that -mentions a stream ID. In this state, the endpoint MUST observe advertised -stream and connection data limits (see {{flow-control}}). +From any of the "Open", "Send", or "Data Sent" states, an application can signal +that it wishes to abandon transmission of stream data. Similarly, the endpoint +might receive a STOP_SENDING frame from its peer. This causes the endpoint to +send a RST_STREAM frame, which causes the stream to enter the "Reset Sent" +state. Pedant alert: The wording here doesn't make it blatantly obvious that "signal ... abandon" is done by RST_STREAM. Maybe replace "This causes the endpoint to send..." with "In either case, the endpoint sends..."? > -A stream transitions from this state to "closed" by completing transmission of -all data. This includes sending all data carried in STREAM frames including -the terminal STREAM frame that contains a FIN flag. +An endpoint MAY send a RST_STREAM to open a send stream; this causes the send +stream to open and immediately transition to the "Reset Sent" state. Given that the stream was in the "Open" state before you send anything, describing the RST as opening the stream feels a little awkward. Maybe say "...as the first frame on a send stream. This causes the send stream to immediately transition...". > -A stream also becomes "closed" when the endpoint sends a RST_STREAM frame. +Once a packet containing a RST_STREAM has been successfully acknowledged, the Nit: From the receiver's side of the ACK, there are no unsuccessful acknowledgements. > -The "closed" state is the terminal state for a stream. Reordering might cause -frames to be received after closing, see {{state-hc-remote}}. +{{fig-stream-recv-states}} shows the states for the part of a stream that +receives data from a peer. The states for a receive stream mirror only some the +states of the send stream at the peer. A receive stream doesn't track states on +the send stream that can't be observed, such as the "Open" state; instead, +receive streams track the delivery of data to the application or application +protocol. ...some of which cannot be observed by the sender. > -If the application resets a stream that is already in the "closed" state, a -RST_STREAM frame MAY still be sent in order to cancel retransmissions of -previously-sent STREAM frames. +~~~ + o + | Recv STREAM / STREAM_BLOCKED / RST_STREAM This makes it look like two RST_STREAMs are needed to enter "RST received." > -If the application resets a stream that is already in the "closed" state, a -RST_STREAM frame MAY still be sent in order to cancel retransmissions of -previously-sent STREAM frames. +~~~ + o + | Recv STREAM / STREAM_BLOCKED / RST_STREAM + | Open Paired Stream (bidirectional) + | Recv MAX_STREAM_DATA + v On the send side, you have separate states for "I know the stream is open" and "data is flowing." On the receive side, you go immediately to the "Recv" state. Is there value in splitting those? > -While STOP_SENDING frames are retransmittable, an implementation MAY choose not -to retransmit a lost STOP_SENDING frame if the stream has already been closed -in the appropriate direction since the frame was first generated. -See {{packetization}}. +An endpoint is expected to send STOP_SENDING frames if packets containing the send => resend, send another, etc. > -While STOP_SENDING frames are retransmittable, an implementation MAY choose not -to retransmit a lost STOP_SENDING frame if the stream has already been closed -in the appropriate direction since the frame was first generated. -See {{packetization}}. +An endpoint is expected to send STOP_SENDING frames if packets containing the +frame are lost. However, once either all stream data has been received or a "all stream data or a RST_STREAM has been received" -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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@MikeBishop requested changes on this pull request.

I'm wondering if it's time to separate frames into those sent on/about send streams, on/about receive streams, or on the connection. It's been there implicitly, but this change makes it even more glaring.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> -
-The following transitions are valid from this state:
-
-Sending or receiving a STREAM or RST_STREAM frame causes the identified stream
-to become "open".  The stream identifier for a new stream is selected as
-described in {{stream-id}}.  A RST_STREAM frame, or a STREAM frame with the FIN
-flag set also causes a stream to become "half-closed".
-
-An endpoint might receive MAX_STREAM_DATA or STREAM_BLOCKED frames on
-peer-initiated streams that are "idle" if there is loss or reordering of
-packets.  Receiving these frames also causes the stream to become "open".
-
-An endpoint MUST NOT send a STREAM or RST_STREAM frame for a stream ID that is
-higher than the peers advertised maximum stream ID (see
-{{frame-max-stream-id}}).
+This section describes the two types of QUIC stream in terms of the states that

"states of", I think. Otherwise, this is hard to parse.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
-Due to reordering, an endpoint could continue receiving frames for the stream
-even after the stream is closed for sending.  Frames received after a peer
-closes a stream SHOULD be discarded.  An endpoint MAY choose to limit the period
-over which it ignores frames and treat frames that arrive after this time as
-being in error.
+In the "Send" state, an endpoint transmits - and retransmits as necessary - data
+in STREAM frames.  The endpoint respects the flow control limits of its peer,
+accepting MAX_STREAM_DATA frames.  It generates STREAM_BLOCKED frames if it

You'd have to have it sit to the side of Send, though, with the ability to transition from Open to Blocked (no credit to start with) and the ability to oscillate between Blocked and Send, and the ability to close or reset from there as well. It feels like it would complicate the concept of the state machine much more than it would clarify.

Just say that, while in the Send state, you MUST obey flow control, sending STREAM_BLOCKED if you're stuck.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
-A stream in this state can be used by the endpoint to send any frame that
-mentions a stream ID.  In this state, the endpoint MUST observe advertised
-stream and connection data limits (see {{flow-control}}).
+From any of the "Open", "Send", or "Data Sent" states, an application can signal
+that it wishes to abandon transmission of stream data.  Similarly, the endpoint
+might receive a STOP_SENDING frame from its peer.  This causes the endpoint to
+send a RST_STREAM frame, which causes the stream to enter the "Reset Sent"
+state.

Pedant alert: The wording here doesn't make it blatantly obvious that "signal ... abandon" is done by RST_STREAM. Maybe replace "This causes the endpoint to send..." with "In either case, the endpoint sends..."?

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
-A stream transitions from this state to "closed" by completing transmission of
-all data.  This includes sending all data carried in STREAM frames including
-the terminal STREAM frame that contains a FIN flag.
+An endpoint MAY send a RST_STREAM to open a send stream; this causes the send
+stream to open and immediately transition to the "Reset Sent" state.

Given that the stream was in the "Open" state before you send anything, describing the RST as opening the stream feels a little awkward. Maybe say "...as the first frame on a send stream. This causes the send stream to immediately transition...".

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
-A stream also becomes "closed" when the endpoint sends a RST_STREAM frame.
+Once a packet containing a RST_STREAM has been successfully acknowledged, the

Nit: From the receiver's side of the ACK, there are no unsuccessful acknowledgements.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
-The "closed" state is the terminal state for a stream.  Reordering might cause
-frames to be received after closing, see {{state-hc-remote}}.
+{{fig-stream-recv-states}} shows the states for the part of a stream that
+receives data from a peer.  The states for a receive stream mirror only some the
+states of the send stream at the peer.  A receive stream doesn't track states on
+the send stream that can't be observed, such as the "Open" state; instead,
+receive streams track the delivery of data to the application or application
+protocol.

...some of which cannot be observed by the sender.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
-If the application resets a stream that is already in the "closed" state, a
-RST_STREAM frame MAY still be sent in order to cancel retransmissions of
-previously-sent STREAM frames.
+~~~
+       o
+       | Recv STREAM / STREAM_BLOCKED / RST_STREAM

This makes it look like two RST_STREAMs are needed to enter "RST received."

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
-If the application resets a stream that is already in the "closed" state, a
-RST_STREAM frame MAY still be sent in order to cancel retransmissions of
-previously-sent STREAM frames.
+~~~
+       o
+       | Recv STREAM / STREAM_BLOCKED / RST_STREAM
+       | Open Paired Stream (bidirectional)
+       | Recv MAX_STREAM_DATA
+       v

On the send side, you have separate states for "I know the stream is open" and "data is flowing." On the receive side, you go immediately to the "Recv" state. Is there value in splitting those?

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
-While STOP_SENDING frames are retransmittable, an implementation MAY choose not
-to retransmit a lost STOP_SENDING frame if the stream has already been closed
-in the appropriate direction since the frame was first generated.
-See {{packetization}}.
+An endpoint is expected to send STOP_SENDING frames if packets containing the

send => resend, send another, etc.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
-While STOP_SENDING frames are retransmittable, an implementation MAY choose not
-to retransmit a lost STOP_SENDING frame if the stream has already been closed
-in the appropriate direction since the frame was first generated.
-See {{packetization}}.
+An endpoint is expected to send STOP_SENDING frames if packets containing the
+frame are lost.  However, once either all stream data has been received or a

"all stream data or a RST_STREAM has been received"

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That will be really useful. An implementation that doesn't want to do uni-directional streams can just send 0 for the uni max stream ID.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2427,6 +2407,32 @@ ACK Block (repeated):
   packets preceding the largest packet number, as determined by the
   preceding Gap.
 
+### Sending ACK Frames
+
+Implementations MUST NOT generate packets that only contain ACK frames in
+response to packets which only contain ACK frames. However, they SHOULD
+acknowledge packets containing only ACK frames when sending ACK frames in
+response to other packets.  Implementations MUST NOT send more than one ACK
+frame per received packet that contains frames other than ACK frames.  Packets
+containing non ACK frames MUST be acknowledged immediately or when a delayed
+ack timer expires.
+
+To limit ACK blocks to those that have not yet been received by the sender, the
+receiver SHOULD track which ACK frames have been acknowledged by its peer.  Once

Ok, understood. In that case, I think the text below is sufficient for now?

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2427,6 +2407,34 @@ ACK Block (repeated):
   packets preceding the largest packet number, as determined by the
   preceding Gap.
 
+### Sending ACK Frames
+
+Implementations MUST NOT generate packets that only contain ACK frames in
+response to packets which only contain ACK frames. However, they MUST
+acknowledge packets containing only ACK frames when sending ACK frames in
+response to other packets.  Implementations MUST NOT send more than one ACK
+frame per received packet that contains frames other than ACK frames.  Packets
+containing non ACK frames MUST be acknowledged immediately or when a delayed

"non-ACK", or just "other"

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Ok, I think this is enough of an improvement I'm going to merge it and we can follow up with more improvements later.

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The issue was #595, but the PR was #877

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Well, let's stick with this for now, but fix the text before 08 to make it consistent?

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----==_mimepart_5a06a9d77361d_51053fe68cf64f348455be-- From nobody Fri Nov 10 23:46:39 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AFA5126CF6 for ; Fri, 10 Nov 2017 23:46:38 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.181 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.181 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-2.8, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XEiQPj8qKHrn for ; Fri, 10 Nov 2017 23:46:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from o6.sgmail.github.com (o6.sgmail.github.com [192.254.113.101]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4BD66120726 for ; Fri, 10 Nov 2017 23:46:37 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=XjOwMEsVMiyDklriF3kpLrczTVw=; b=rpmJsMwK40wuS2tJ Ltcv9rQt9f3Bv8Wd2ttnyxXbX7N2QEImf9A5eChjm/sKn1+EdeNDbj02esD5u25W fYgAW9zlLXuoUkXbTG9aLkK+jcq2eUzzMlwV+lIsSmi1CkQxs46zta7AapbRUObk YPzEloTmGCRkxSc305pVLHHUqnc= Received: by filter0454p1las1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0454p1las1-29169-5A06AADC-5 2017-11-11 07:46:36.200360678 +0000 UTC Received: from github-smtp2b-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (github-smtp2b-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net [192.30.253.17]) by ismtpd0001p1iad1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id ADruGxhRSBiUHlRv8h52HA for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2017 07:46:36.144 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2017 07:46:36 +0000 (UTC) From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] When/how often to send ACK frames (#230) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5a06aadcbfad_7a523fbfd9338f28486996"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org tracking: X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak35eiupY2OxdD3AS5r+nidY7rKmrQOuBB66gf 97SF54VoHJLgccnrdtdnNv3B8qCbwCFbRzBpZzfcUAbkl1RVh3+Wc+7qK+xNj+isLWnK/HyXRid7cq a+J6v0b8Q1mmcrE0MFMGBRCCLb80+OzeElz5vdlmSRm2RKnkzocpdeiVqQ== Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2017 07:46:38 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5a06aadcbfad_7a523fbfd9338f28486996 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The text was improved with #907 The intent is to add detailed considerations and recommendations in the recovery doc. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/230#issuecomment-343647475 ----==_mimepart_5a06aadcbfad_7a523fbfd9338f28486996 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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This corrects the omission. There is an obvious optimization for HTTP, which is to not send the low two bits of the Stream ID whenever it needs to identify a stream. Right now, the protocol only ever mentions client-initiated, bidirectional streams in frames, so those two bits are wasted. I'll save that change for later though. I have chosen to take the control stream and use two unidirectional streams, which addresses #515. 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All the remaining ack issues this references are editorial, so I think it makes sense to close this.

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This seems a dupe of #896

I guess I'll close this one, since there's more recent discussion there.

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@nibanks previously proposed a QUIC API that didn't expose specific Stream IDs to= applications. That doesn't actually work for HTTP/QUIC as currently defin= ed, but there are only two places where the HTTP/QUIC implementation needs = to reference a Stream ID.

  • PRIORITY frames reference requests by Stream ID. The solution to this = would be to expand #701= to use a Request ID for client-initiated requests as well as Push ID. (At= first glance, these don't need to be throttled since QUIC MAX_STREAM_ID ef= fectively controls this.)
  • The long-lived control stream is a specific stream ID. This could be e= liminated by putting a stream header (again, =C3=A0 la #701) on unidirectional streams that identi= fies them as control streams. We still need the control stream to be uniqu= e to support order-dependent frames like PRIORITY.

If HTTP goes this direction, there's an associated question for the abst= raction design team as to whether we want to explicitly recommend that the = Stream ID is always an internal property of the transport. (This would mak= e it easier to make changes to Stream IDs and how they work in future versi= ons, incidentally.)

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----==_mimepart_5a06b01273202_23c23fb424d58f2810153eb-- From nobody Sat Nov 11 00:24:24 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F5C4129449 for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2017 00:24:22 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.899 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id h0ZCd_e8zkrF for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2017 00:24:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from m69-169.mailgun.net (m69-169.mailgun.net [166.78.69.169]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C4230120726 for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2017 00:24:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha256; v=1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; q=dns/txt; s=mailo; t=1510388658; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-Type: Mime-Version: Subject: Message-ID: To: Reply-To: From: Date: Sender; bh=ZEpNhULaXMHM7EozFnWDI1MQxnOhwlxBn4RF1kSa3Ug=; b=M6I8kZrxuaIwjOHC+BxW5HHWkfHg64TpqM81cDkJvoC3Z/IF6rPlxvfJC+WfepzXW8EBNziW fv2hWSIVU4MZjZ66y/XA3RTnNW3/TeGhXo5vAPOUlJIkGeMNHJXmnMWiwBxiZKKAV31ExI81 WO5Wq7guO9BxPNHneWFkseSON8o= Sender: mbishop=evequefou.be@github.com X-Mailgun-Sending-Ip: 166.78.69.169 X-Mailgun-Sid: WyJhNzYyYiIsICJxdWljLWlzc3Vlc0BpZXRmLm9yZyIsICI0MGYiXQ== Received: from github.com (Unknown [192.30.252.35]) by mxa.mailgun.org with ESMTP id 5a06b3b0.7f5eb055b540-smtp-out-n01; Sat, 11 Nov 2017 08:24:16 -0000 (UTC) Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2017 00:24:15 -0800 From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: Mike Bishop To: quic-issues@ietf.org Message-ID: <5a06b3afc7cef_70c43ffc801d3c30107967@hookshot-fe-92cdb05.cp1-iad.github.net.mail> Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] 820dd8: Identify unidirectional streams by the 2nd bit in ... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="--==_mimepart_5a06b3afc733d_70c43ffc801d3c301078aa"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2017 08:24:22 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5a06b3afc733d_70c43ffc801d3c301078aa Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Branch: refs/heads/improve-goaway Home: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts Commit: 820dd817c6842379c4cccd99c3d842097e6b1567 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/820dd817c6842379c4cccd99c3d842097e6b1567 Author: Ryan Hamilton Date: 2017-10-12 (Thu, 12 Oct 2017) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Identify unidirectional streams by the 2nd bit in the stream ID Commit: 5eca32c8958efb02b936a00c759d50d9913c07b9 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/5eca32c8958efb02b936a00c759d50d9913c07b9 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2017-10-13 (Fri, 13 Oct 2017) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Tweaks for the draining period This makes the 3RTO timer advisory (SHOULD). It also adds a note about leaving early. If you can be sure that the other side isn't going to send you more packets indefinitely, then you can end early if you are OK with receiving reordered or delayed packets. I also removed a residual mention of sending ACK frames in this state. Commit: 9ead47479272bdc252ae0ae9363e46a558d61a0f https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/9ead47479272bdc252ae0ae9363e46a558d61a0f Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2017-10-13 (Fri, 13 Oct 2017) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Stateless reset works for early exit too Commit: 5061a15eb804b1c090fda3439fadbc12c58dfd3e https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/5061a15eb804b1c090fda3439fadbc12c58dfd3e Author: Ryan Hamilton Date: 2017-10-13 (Fri, 13 Oct 2017) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Address nits Commit: a9b13de5d57ea4ffb82ac507931109275336cd3f https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/a9b13de5d57ea4ffb82ac507931109275336cd3f Author: Ryan Hamilton Date: 2017-10-13 (Fri, 13 Oct 2017) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- invert Commit: 41372597f7ee9b7bb0cbb5d11690cfc6b84a5f70 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/41372597f7ee9b7bb0cbb5d11690cfc6b84a5f70 Author: Ryan Hamilton Date: 2017-10-13 (Fri, 13 Oct 2017) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- clarify Commit: 07403710273bd18f1f5962b924b75344b3d70722 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/07403710273bd18f1f5962b924b75344b3d70722 Author: Ryan Hamilton Date: 2017-10-13 (Fri, 13 Oct 2017) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- more Commit: afabe8a7596999ab4d49463cc144a618e4e184dc https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/afabe8a7596999ab4d49463cc144a618e4e184dc Author: Ryan Hamilton Date: 2017-10-13 (Fri, 13 Oct 2017) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Remove unnecessary language Commit: 8fe436777d03444e06a04b9817a7b94b9a3489e6 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/8fe436777d03444e06a04b9817a7b94b9a3489e6 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2017-10-18 (Wed, 18 Oct 2017) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge branch 'Unidirectional' of https://github.com/RyanAtGoogle/base-drafts into biuni-wat Commit: 82f6b8750cc02f33102778536d95bd22c088bd2f https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/82f6b8750cc02f33102778536d95bd22c088bd2f Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2017-10-18 (Wed, 18 Oct 2017) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Unidirection and bidirectional streams This is #872 with some additional exposition and one significant change. Client-initiated streams are now EVEN. Server initiated streams are now ODD. This is a pretty noticeable change, because it inverts the current sign, and might cause some disruption in implementations. However, it makes stream 0 work within the framework better. It wasn't clear what Ryan's intent was with respect to numbering, but I wouldn't have noticed this until I noticed a conflict between prose and the table. Closes #643, #656, #720, #872, #175. This does not close the other issues that were addressed by #643, because this doesn't include any changes in the HTTP draft. I'll create a follow-up PR for that. Commit: f5b735a861075fbe261d0f8482e205d7cd558894 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/f5b735a861075fbe261d0f8482e205d7cd558894 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2017-10-18 (Wed, 18 Oct 2017) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Fixup Commit: 473d9e7fe1845931528c0bbcc039175bd51a3bf5 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/473d9e7fe1845931528c0bbcc039175bd51a3bf5 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2017-10-18 (Wed, 18 Oct 2017) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Transport integer encoding proposal This proposal replaces all integer encodings in frames with a unified variable-length encoding format. It simplifies the encoding considerably, most noticeably in the ACK frame, which I have largely rewritten. This change increases the number of streams to 2^62, but reduces the number of packets and octets per stream to that same number. Both are very large values anyway. I kept the 2^10 scaling on the connection-level flow control window, so that goes to 2^72 now. The cost for ACK is a negligible decrease in efficiency for larger gaps or ACK blocks (mainly between 64 and 255 in length). This is counteracted by an increase in efficiency if there are occasional ranges or gaps larger than 255, which were previously very difficult to encode correctly. As previously discussed, the timestamp format is removed. In its place, we use the same integer encoding, but with a scaling value, or exponent, that is signaled in transport parameters, that should allow common ACK delays to be expressed in fewer octets (an exponent of 0 only allows for 16ms to be encoded in two octets, but the default exponent is 8, allowing up to 128ms of ACK delay to be encoded on two octets with an 8us resolution). I haven't made any changes for HTTP yet, I plan to do that in a separate PR. Commit: 06112c66869ae5cb7b1e741cf46417cad9ca7477 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/06112c66869ae5cb7b1e741cf46417cad9ca7477 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2017-10-18 (Wed, 18 Oct 2017) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Review comments Commit: 66c5285f8e84786b7cb99dcab744f227c7f16843 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/66c5285f8e84786b7cb99dcab744f227c7f16843 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2017-10-18 (Wed, 18 Oct 2017) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Add a length field to ACK Commit: fd78bccd18ebb8fdca9fc6a0cb963d8e992b12b5 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/fd78bccd18ebb8fdca9fc6a0cb963d8e992b12b5 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2017-10-18 (Wed, 18 Oct 2017) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Use a count rather than a length Commit: 442dc99647bfb200ac1534328008aa4d16fa7bb3 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/442dc99647bfb200ac1534328008aa4d16fa7bb3 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2017-10-19 (Thu, 19 Oct 2017) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Add article Commit: 3541a42a346b6c42b931b895ec5c31dbc2b68c66 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/3541a42a346b6c42b931b895ec5c31dbc2b68c66 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2017-10-19 (Thu, 19 Oct 2017) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Detail Commit: 5c120d002958013b939db714517d98ddebfc97a3 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/5c120d002958013b939db714517d98ddebfc97a3 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2017-10-19 (Thu, 19 Oct 2017) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Subtract one from ranges Commit: 7be15c0a449392c2843a35792209bad600829eec https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/7be15c0a449392c2843a35792209bad600829eec Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2017-10-20 (Fri, 20 Oct 2017) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Editorial fixup Commit: cc9d717bab0253868572a3a759501f1157c37055 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/cc9d717bab0253868572a3a759501f1157c37055 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2017-10-25 (Wed, 25 Oct 2017) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Editorial tweak Commit: 1ca1af9eb21e7f0a53d168a51bab9740bf57b361 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/1ca1af9eb21e7f0a53d168a51bab9740bf57b361 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2017-10-25 (Wed, 25 Oct 2017) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #870 from quicwg/draining-applicability Tweaks for the draining period Commit: d190077ee547de3a02974dc2693f3d722f56adf1 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/d190077ee547de3a02974dc2693f3d722f56adf1 Author: Marten Seemann Date: 2017-10-27 (Fri, 27 Oct 2017) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- fix KEY_PHASE bit on long header Commit: 5b662dedc38138043ea2eb4cb217c485d73a761a https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/5b662dedc38138043ea2eb4cb217c485d73a761a Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2017-10-27 (Fri, 27 Oct 2017) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #902 from marten-seemann/fix-key-phase-long-header fix KEY_PHASE bit on long header Commit: 665dc8b62955fd5115e83808143b1821bfa18ee0 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/665dc8b62955fd5115e83808143b1821bfa18ee0 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2017-10-30 (Mon, 30 Oct 2017) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Remove duplication Commit: 20ce92f6843b85dd5a9b20b5330eee3ea25de3de https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/20ce92f6843b85dd5a9b20b5330eee3ea25de3de Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2017-10-30 (Mon, 30 Oct 2017) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #885 from quicwg/biuni-wat Unidirectional and bidirectional streams Commit: 12d0946ccaba1bab42b8d3bbb0f12214d13dbc8c https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/12d0946ccaba1bab42b8d3bbb0f12214d13dbc8c Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2017-10-30 (Mon, 30 Oct 2017) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-http.md Log Message: ----------- Maximal change for HTTP integer encoding This didn't turn out to be that disruptive. I'm somewhat worried that I missed something actually. Given that the changes are small, I think that I would prefer this over #887 for #877. The most interesting change here is that extension frame types that mention Stream IDs will have to change. I am not aware of any proposed thus far, so maybe it's not too much of a cost to bear. It further confirms my view that we shouldn't be using Stream IDs at this layer anyway. Based on this, I don't see any need for a middle-ground change. The biggest cost here is in taking the larger Stream ID space, not in taking the integer encoding. Commit: cdae8c393e691843e9e6efc939c2f398e2811312 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/cdae8c393e691843e9e6efc939c2f398e2811312 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2017-10-30 (Mon, 30 Oct 2017) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-http.md Log Message: ----------- Missed a few fixed-size integers And a nit Commit: 8aaa5e076bbf745f3d36c1f032fbd641860fe899 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/8aaa5e076bbf745f3d36c1f032fbd641860fe899 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2017-10-30 (Mon, 30 Oct 2017) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-http.md Log Message: ----------- More fixed-size integer residue Commit: 89c99638de57e4bb58c36c6309c7647daf3648f6 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/89c99638de57e4bb58c36c6309c7647daf3648f6 Author: Mike Bishop Date: 2017-10-30 (Mon, 30 Oct 2017) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Redundant duplication is unnecessary Commit: 149b2b8346ba368ea0b203f4e80d84b4cc7fe293 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/149b2b8346ba368ea0b203f4e80d84b4cc7fe293 Author: Mike Bishop Date: 2017-10-30 (Mon, 30 Oct 2017) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/master' into integers Commit: 90b2054a61c791dc1c93aaab6cd6ba606c011583 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/90b2054a61c791dc1c93aaab6cd6ba606c011583 Author: Mike Bishop Date: 2017-10-30 (Mon, 30 Oct 2017) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-http.md M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #877 from quicwg/integers Variable-length integer encoding Commit: 56bb044ea13160274e2c831a919b8546068e0a08 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/56bb044ea13160274e2c831a919b8546068e0a08 Author: Mike Bishop Date: 2017-10-30 (Mon, 30 Oct 2017) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-http.md M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- -08 changelog Commit: 8971eb39ca2ddd77f0db4b0c7cf30112a8b377bb https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/8971eb39ca2ddd77f0db4b0c7cf30112a8b377bb Author: Mike Bishop Date: 2017-10-31 (Tue, 31 Oct 2017) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-http.md M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Minor typos Commit: 503b694528cb8e5481c3f8cabecb7da5c30ed696 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/503b694528cb8e5481c3f8cabecb7da5c30ed696 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2017-10-31 (Tue, 31 Oct 2017) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Rename and consolidate packet types (#847) * Rename and consolidate packet types The two cleartext types are no longer needed to distinguish between client and server. Server packets are protected with a different key to that used for client packets, so a server will be unable to process a packet from another server as though it were a client packet (not that this was possible anyway given that we have a different type for the initial packet). Consequently, I have renamed packets to use shorter names and to better fit their roles: * Client Initial -> Initial * Server Stateless Retry -> Retry (also avoids confusion with Stateless Reset) * Server Cleartext -> Handshake * Client Cleartext -> Handshake I've rephrased the text in the TLS spec to match. The only functional change here is to consolidate Server and Client Cleartext into a single codepoint. I did renumber the 0-RTT and 1-RTT protected packets as a result. Closes #846. * Handshake, not connection setup * Nits * Rewrap * Reflow, fix links, Closes #822 Commit: ec132f546f8b2853a52543066564b95e2a42b8b2 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/ec132f546f8b2853a52543066564b95e2a42b8b2 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2017-11-01 (Wed, 01 Nov 2017) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-http.md Log Message: ----------- Variable-length HTTP/QUIC frames This removes END_HEADERS as it is no longer needed. Strangely, the flag on PUSH_PROMISE was already removed. Closes #76. Commit: 7e49733ad45861f2f741b07c5ff262a751264eca https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/7e49733ad45861f2f741b07c5ff262a751264eca Author: Mike Bishop Date: 2017-11-07 (Tue, 07 Nov 2017) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-http.md Log Message: ----------- Rebranded Commit: 46565d50feb45b2d3975a4fc80ac559f0d9bbfec https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/46565d50feb45b2d3975a4fc80ac559f0d9bbfec Author: ianswett Date: 2017-11-11 (Sat, 11 Nov 2017) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Clarify when to send acks (#907) * Clarify when to send acks * Update draft-ietf-quic-transport.md * Comments * Add '-' Commit: 213dc0b812833f2a721f14f37c68f848c156492d https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/213dc0b812833f2a721f14f37c68f848c156492d Author: ianswett Date: 2017-11-11 (Sat, 11 Nov 2017) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Update changelog Commit: 709332a75a7947985802c2475d4cd6c50e7483ad https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/709332a75a7947985802c2475d4cd6c50e7483ad Author: Mike Bishop Date: 2017-11-11 (Sat, 11 Nov 2017) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-http.md Log Message: ----------- ASCII art reflow Commit: bf43a11594a686270535e59b8bf03c4c3fd034ce https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/bf43a11594a686270535e59b8bf03c4c3fd034ce Author: Mike Bishop Date: 2017-11-10 (Fri, 10 Nov 2017) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-http.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #905 from quicwg/frame-length-varint Variable-length HTTP/QUIC frames Commit: dad07686a38274c01666afb828ae3fbfba195e75 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/dad07686a38274c01666afb828ae3fbfba195e75 Author: Mike Bishop Date: 2017-11-11 (Sat, 11 Nov 2017) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-http.md Log Message: ----------- Changelog update Commit: 83087ce6f71f4608574edfed9cea074731fe53a7 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/83087ce6f71f4608574edfed9cea074731fe53a7 Author: Mike Bishop Date: 2017-11-11 (Sat, 11 Nov 2017) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-http.md M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/master' into improve-goaway Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/187114796561...83087ce6f71f ----==_mimepart_5a06b3afc733d_70c43ffc801d3c301078aa-- From nobody Sat Nov 11 00:24:28 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 758E2120726 for ; 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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MikeBishop commented on this pull request. > @@ -959,11 +959,12 @@ discarded. Once the Version Negotiation packet is determined to be valid, the client then selects an acceptable protocol version from the list provided by the server. -The client then attempts to create a connection using that version. Though the -contents of the Client Initial packet the client sends might not change in -response to version negotiation, a client MUST increase the packet number it -uses on every packet it sends. Packets MUST continue to use long headers and -MUST include the new negotiated protocol version. +The client then attempts to create a connection using that version. The client +generates a new Client Initial packet with a new packet number. Even if the +cryptographic protocol used does not change as a result of a change in version, +the cryptographic handshake message MUST be updated to include updated transport +parameters that reflect the change of version. This packet and any subsequent +packets that use a long header MUST include the selected protocol version. 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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -959,11 +959,12 @@ discarded.
 
 Once the Version Negotiation packet is determined to be valid, the client then
 selects an acceptable protocol version from the list provided by the server.
-The client then attempts to create a connection using that version.  Though the
-contents of the Client Initial packet the client sends might not change in
-response to version negotiation, a client MUST increase the packet number it
-uses on every packet it sends.  Packets MUST continue to use long headers and
-MUST include the new negotiated protocol version.
+The client then attempts to create a connection using that version.  The client
+generates a new Client Initial packet with a new packet number.  Even if the
+cryptographic protocol used does not change as a result of a change in version,
+the cryptographic handshake message MUST be updated to include updated transport
+parameters that reflect the change of version.  This packet and any subsequent
+packets that use a long header MUST include the selected protocol version.

Careful here -- the transport parameters shouldn't reflect the new version as its initially-proposed one, and an unwary reader could read it that way.

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Why is this in the TLS draft? If we're allowing CONNECTION_CLOSE in Handshake packets, shouldn't that be in the Transport doc?

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Regardless of the outcome of the 0 vs. 1 debate, this is stale from the updated Packet names from #847.

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The changes in #885 don't include HTTP, which leaves that draft somewhat
broken. This corrects the omission.

There is an obvious optimization for HTTP, which is to not send the low two
bits of the Stream ID whenever it needs to identify a stream. Right now, the
protocol only ever mentions client-initiated, bidirectional streams in frames,
so those two bits are wasted. I'll save that change for later though.

I have chosen to take the control stream and use two unidirectional streams, which
addresses #515.

Closes #515, #240, #281.

You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/911

Commit Summary

  • Make HTTP use bidirectional and unidirectional stream

File Changes

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----==_mimepart_5a06bcdc2231d_4abc3faf0be60f389293f6-- From nobody Sat Nov 11 01:08:34 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 830A1129437 for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2017 01:08:32 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.181 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.181 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-2.8, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dDXUcHkujfg0 for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2017 01:08:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from o5.sgmail.github.com (o5.sgmail.github.com [192.254.113.10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D9C8E12420B for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2017 01:08:30 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=/zg0XXQkgc+oT74vZ6MCz1t1Go0=; b=P0g2829dB1IZlOTr iyQVa8v8/9CXMtuYqP6jrDB8/A3LHNoug3NXjsuyPft8OGlNtE8dpsGN37wXeZlE YZHnKpA8q/wLybruRpyKF6TVmZ1ay3Cx1/Z9dy/d2AgAlfhUTbq6A6Hv5wSvfOMY SgTsQQooNXjSbCNEBzLSXGc4qKg= Received: by filter0599p1las1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0599p1las1-18145-5A06BE0D-18 2017-11-11 09:08:29.629413346 +0000 UTC Received: from github-smtp2b-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (github-smtp2b-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net [192.30.253.17]) by ismtpd0003p1iad1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id pQqqxxq6TE2VczMiYaOeag for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2017 09:08:29.465 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2017 09:08:29 +0000 (UTC) From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] State bikeshedding time (#520) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5a06be0d5bd30_27033f81377aaf38876255"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org tracking: X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak3Lgo2SFWZMHU5c+7LdSxOPh2IH7nruz8tYai 50HkGgFDuQIY9R8vZjgbeLCJ+7Xf51KadBNnEX6E5C0ldxMztssEcFzExdLtEUDF1Oophy+p78Kv2/ x6eE9MzRkgBL/ShsEjwVaAWZpnS2C5OKfhHVZP/H2hgs5MkOR+uRCgEUrtkPGhrMQxiHLpR/TeKCRT k= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2017 09:08:32 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5a06be0d5bd30_27033f81377aaf38876255 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yes, but the corollary on frame names is still there.... RST_STREAM => WRITE_ABORT, STOP_SENDING => READ_ABORT make even more sense after #894. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/520#issuecomment-343651165 ----==_mimepart_5a06be0d5bd30_27033f81377aaf38876255 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Yes, but the corollary on frame names is still there.... RST_STREAM => WRITE_ABORT, STOP_SENDING => READ_ABORT make even more sense after #894.

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This is a duplicate of #886, created to resolve the fact that it got merged into the wrong branch.

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Are you suggesting that the max_stream_id transport parameter just occur twice?

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----==_mimepart_5a06c93f4aa06_27123f81377aaf3891706f-- From nobody Sat Nov 11 02:44:04 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20CF21294E6 for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2017 02:44:02 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.615 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.615 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id deZpgg9vsqtO for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2017 02:44:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from o8.sgmail.github.com (o8.sgmail.github.com [167.89.101.199]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E13EA1294E8 for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2017 02:44:00 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=YF3S4vFHdjK1chYjZsNhwezTbOg=; b=uGGzkD92pW5MzIKr vxs1zWUGsUVGBy5W+xuabkKa7t2jdg7trhHsjqWnj3OEPMDy03jLzLCovc3rwN69 JFZ8pd4qThXKTs/AYVVxrDdSWQTOrE+V/cNLeR3YgL5EvgeHLZrjZnJKMqwirbzu hMZSFomOffmMhOVEs23KbHXoliI= Received: by filter0566p1las1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0566p1las1-29320-5A06D46F-2A 2017-11-11 10:43:59.921870404 +0000 UTC Received: from github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net [192.30.253.16]) by ismtpd0002p1iad1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id Q-snUOg1TceW1-uUOWG5Zg for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2017 10:43:59.749 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2017 10:44:00 +0000 (UTC) From: janaiyengar Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Implicitly opened streams add complexity (#896) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5a06d46fa5444_25b13fdf23e3ef30154248a"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: janaiyengar X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org tracking: X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak1J+B/bBVTYYDmTN+b7drEQ2Sb8eHqj1NnQku rihj+gUZZuswbp2y8k+Pjk51v4djbRvGTumg1JTV3b19JQlOYUiT9JHwGO98414SA2x6SqlP/YvhtQ t+XRqWCKSG4FafL5CR0R8kNFkq2OiPZ3Y9RcuK9hAqmiZuVGhN00SNKpTkgka0QifaYC8ScbHJgaFq I= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2017 10:44:02 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5a06d46fa5444_25b13fdf23e3ef30154248a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I agree with @igorlord 's formulation. We can require a sender to open streams in order, without requiring an explicit state at the receiver. I think the question of whether a server can send on a stream that it assumes is open is a separable one, and doesn't require us documenting implicit open. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/896#issuecomment-343655966 ----==_mimepart_5a06d46fa5444_25b13fdf23e3ef30154248a Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I agree with @igorlord 's formulation. We can require a sender to open streams i= n order, without requiring an explicit state at the receiver.

I think the question of whether a server can send on a stream that it as= sumes is open is a separable one, and doesn't require us documenting implic= it open.

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After some discussion at the Singapore Hackathon: The reason why #693 solves this, is because= the client-chosen connection ID is used for the AEAD. This also applies in= the case where the server directly replies with a Cleartext and uses a ser= ver-chosen connection ID.

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I missed that this was the initial max_stream_id in transport params. So disregard my previous statement.

I guess it appearing twice makes the most sense then?

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I'd like to qualify my proposal to say that the stream =3D connect= ion.OpenNewStream(type) API would just internally create a new strea= m with the next available ID for the given type (unidirectional or bidirect= ional) and wouldn't indicate the Stream ID to the application by default. B= ut instead there would just be a helper function on the Stream to query the= ID, stream.GetID() for instance.

Would this be enough? Essentially that API would only support creating s= tream in order, as far as the ID space goes.

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An endpoint MUST treat receipt of duplicate transport parameters as a co= nnection error of type TRANSPORT_PARAMETER_ERROR.

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----==_mimepart_5a07684c6bba9_7d473f82be3b4f2c977ea-- From nobody Sat Nov 11 13:18:03 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 059C9126B71 for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2017 13:18:02 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.473 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.473 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xmN8ab4hoojr for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2017 13:18:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from o7.sgmail.github.com (o7.sgmail.github.com [167.89.101.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CFE01126B6E for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2017 13:18:00 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=8uxIpcrcvZJA3mWkQ76+tMrZ3sA=; b=i6KO1Kk+vk5+cYYD gQX8bl4/m1FABfAeKgwoLJ33L/gbAVqIR5zWst/c7tdVrz2wyfoz/I3pliSX3jzD qYVrO0YW1+3vhbBdTkhBBxSxOxSdGGNhep34GfHSGsY6OOcBEP/cTU3rAQ5mQfOh y/CFh0Cj3iUduSKp+gcUayp1J50= Received: by filter0432p1iad2.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0432p1iad2-11638-5A076907-14 2017-11-11 21:17:59.72987568 +0000 UTC Received: from github-smtp2b-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (github-smtp2b-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net [192.30.253.17]) by ismtpd0014p1iad2.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id 69AmAFfqQ_2mwG_J60KteQ for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2017 21:17:59.808 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2017 21:17:59 +0000 (UTC) From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] initial_max_stream_id and, uni and bidi streams (#909) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5a0769076906a_56f23f865337ef38231537"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org tracking: X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak3viPyEyycnZYPC+Cwu6jsggA9CgRsP5rwcGB fsdQWYAb0xSoHElRNU5QThjapxzSUsfi2bISQpbu8Y0LYIHkKUfq6CZHbWn5TOP0E5xturGsuFRoLN 0mWhppbpn4taisWRibDRd/cyGXf+JY/aW5diwBeK7/JRCE9taPbhn8KJeqOVjgU6rMLII3rn0It2XU 0= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2017 21:18:02 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5a0769076906a_56f23f865337ef38231537 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Special cases are bad, so I'd rather not do that. We could allow a transport param be a list of stream ids? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/909#issuecomment-343694825 ----==_mimepart_5a0769076906a_56f23f865337ef38231537 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Special cases are bad, so I'd rather not do that. We could allow a transport param be a list of stream ids?

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----==_mimepart_5a0769076906a_56f23f865337ef38231537-- From nobody Sat Nov 11 14:00:25 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF0C61270B4 for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2017 14:00:23 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.799 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.799 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-2.8, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MIJ3CATDGoyJ for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2017 14:00:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from o6.sgmail.github.com (o6.sgmail.github.com [192.254.113.101]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ABFBA126D3F for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2017 14:00:22 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=vykP3y1c1bEgT4poJZE3ZSAp68o=; b=rCwAZEkjx5sDLmvC bjpsKd9yZNjO7A0wInw6Wj0HImGNgcYInUolwfxyKz4NDYZKp/pTpDGNT1HgQtTR 4fJ8s6Z/xEF3WBjrdzg1iDUaduIKzedruAw6OH/s46iZrUMPhnq5ykVrlibeM+6Q bS89trMRWsZ1g9t5wzuLLqLAN00= Received: by filter0404p1iad2.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0404p1iad2-941-5A0772F5-F 2017-11-11 22:00:21.366801345 +0000 UTC Received: from github-smtp2b-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (github-smtp2b-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net [192.30.253.17]) by ismtpd0020p1iad2.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id N3cG4IQmRRWl7aKbvIjw-g for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2017 22:00:21.282 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2017 22:00:21 +0000 (UTC) From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Move padding to the crypto layer (#197) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5a0772f5233e6_84b3fc267020f3016171a"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org tracking: X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak31yueZYlEkS9rCxV1aLVMemLVGZBrZ+QWnsc yWta+21ZFYegiIrAX4iaQIkVBfJAPpU2dG6WdR33gjv2JQvIhQw2Bpdn+vd7UeNrlSyAaJRUHCm+7p WpoyhBqUIMKUvAV0DUXsIyt222AYOfVCigVYkex92ZiIorthS9pcDDFlrA== Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2017 22:00:24 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5a0772f5233e6_84b3fc267020f3016171a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit At some point, we changed padding to be a single byte to allow for padding to be placed between frames at the request of @larseggert This seems like a useful feature and we'd remove that if we got rid of padding entirely, so I don't think QUIC padding is going away. Given that, this issue becomes 'sometimes move padding to the crypto layer', which is going to make congestion control and bytes in flight counting potentially more complex, since sometimes we'll do padding in one place and sometimes the other. This is orthogonal to #837, since we need to decide how we want QUIC to work with padding. Where to put the padding doesn't change that. If we want padding that counts towards bytes in flight and one that doesn't, we can use PADDING and PING for the two different cases(or other approaches). Given the above, @ekr is there a reason to keep this open? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/197#issuecomment-343697029 ----==_mimepart_5a0772f5233e6_84b3fc267020f3016171a Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

At some point, we changed padding to be a single byte to allow for paddi= ng to be placed between frames at the request of @larseggert This seems like a u= seful feature and we'd remove that if we got rid of padding entirely, so I = don't think QUIC padding is going away.

Given that, this issue becomes 'sometimes move padding to the crypto lay= er', which is going to make congestion control and bytes in flight counting= potentially more complex, since sometimes we'll do padding in one place an= d sometimes the other.

This is orthogonal to = #837, since we need to decide how we want QUIC to work with padding. W= here to put the padding doesn't change that. If we want padding that count= s towards bytes in flight and one that doesn't, we can use PADDING and PING= for the two different cases(or other approaches).

Given the above, @ekr is there a reason to keep this open?

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Based on re-reading the draft, I don't believe this was ever written up.= Also, if we do this in an extension, which I like, can we stop having the= server unilaterally change the connection ID and instead have the server i= nform the client to change the connection ID with the TLS extension?

That would solve #714<= /a> cleanly I believe.

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----==_mimepart_5a0775ed86464_5153fc267020f3028031d-- From nobody Sat Nov 11 14:13:08 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 737CB127698 for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2017 14:13:04 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.401 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.401 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QY9fiD5-_Yol for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2017 14:13:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from o4.sgmail.github.com (o4.sgmail.github.com [192.254.112.99]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 445B512741D for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2017 14:13:03 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=vflClGrasQKuqH+bwuYev7/25cM=; b=qsHXH6PT7NX2YV65 lqEPmXN/0F2knW0I2PQbHhVeam6ZVBPzPU0NCZie5XgpGGxR+F8UoLXI/6uq40IN 9fYRlrtrWRHKI2dIp+h3iNPe9vw57h5okRLs2wMv5cFCiF+2s7GbL0MbSBkXCzeR XPaE9Ou0CJhbS0nDGdrDLLarcnk= Received: by filter0466p1las1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0466p1las1-29477-5A0775ED-18 2017-11-11 22:13:01.61596727 +0000 UTC Received: from github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net [192.30.253.16]) by ismtpd0002p1iad1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id 9BH2UAcVRMyZ0J_wMeV1uA for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2017 22:13:01.481 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2017 22:13:01 +0000 (UTC) From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Is Version Negotiation integrity protected in first interop draft? (#706) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5a0775ed61556_60ea3f8ad33ecf2c18384f"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org tracking: X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak3iYom4yQ7PRFUynTt7dXlxaYvxzC/Zt9gZ7Z ep4ufZSn0ik9m+r5BMxVirF8FVDdibXLLHmn8TKYI1uo9+IcvjPeY2yPj7sFRt8U9DCa6/3tqRu9JU xEL+CpsidtF25k9hyg+H5b3Dy4zIHq5dYeSFPj1eP2lejPSsZRTTSKC3PLpfSGq0QjUMRtS7joaQwC 0= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2017 22:13:04 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5a0775ed61556_60ea3f8ad33ecf2c18384f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think this is obsolete, since we're well past the first implementation draft. I also think EKR clarified the text when he introduced AES-GCM handshake crypto. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/706#issuecomment-343697694 ----==_mimepart_5a0775ed61556_60ea3f8ad33ecf2c18384f Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I think this is obsolete, since we're well past the first implementation draft. I also think EKR clarified the text when he introduced AES-GCM handshake crypto.

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Currently the recovery draft specifies a default ack delay of 25ms, which may be slightly too low in some environments and much too high in others(ie: datacenters). In order to implement efficient loss recovery, the peer needs to know what ack delay is being used. This should be communicated via transport params.

A similar proposal exists to add this to TCP, we should ensure it exists in QUIC as well.
https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/97/slides/slides-97-tcpm-tcp-options-for-low-latency-00.pdf

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Why not create a new transport parameter? Seems the cleanest solution to me.

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  • Clarify the length of the authentication tag

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Why is that? Doesn't this depend on the ciphersuite negotiated by TLS?

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@ma= rten-seemann: here is what we specify

| TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256          | {0x13,0x01} |
| TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384          | {0x13,0x02} |
| TLS_CHACHA20_POLY1305_SHA256    | {0x13,0x03} |
| TLS_AES_128_CCM_SHA256          | {0x13,0x04} |
| TLS_AES_128_CCM_8_SHA256        | {0x13,0x05} |

We're not going to do CCM and it just happens that the others use 16-byt= e tags.

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= ----==_mimepart_5a07acdb92280_7d8e3f82be3b4f2c470322-- From nobody Sat Nov 11 18:29:29 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 173A8128C83 for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2017 18:29:16 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.02 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.02 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KqjGVzYqJhll for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2017 18:29:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from o1.sgmail.github.com (o1.sgmail.github.com [192.254.114.176]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 627A8128D8B for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2017 18:29:14 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=cjO0I0haCQEONP/KuhAmKxmbseA=; b=l4jRCCmBCyQJ7pXJ dtjwAy3/mAqFfKE6GO3K5sJay26m/p/Y3miyrlhjUGamPdsp1s2Q4daGq5FjZlu6 lGWdf3GIChWc4QPLdhA95pRY018Es+w3gJfdWKga11/MtNBPmwD3HFdHkfAjuuBn /xVxgJ1k3Yxy9gHkEtK5b7eepp4= Received: by filter0376p1las1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0376p1las1-29949-5A07B1F8-2C 2017-11-12 02:29:12.871617707 +0000 UTC Received: from github-smtp2b-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (github-smtp2b-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net [192.30.253.17]) by ismtpd0001p1iad1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id mWDXVW16SAa8WX_mSRddDA for ; Sun, 12 Nov 2017 02:29:12.897 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2017 02:29:13 +0000 (UTC) From: ekr Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Move padding to the crypto layer (#197) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5a07b1f8c7134_e2243ff0bcb4cf34778339"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ekr X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org tracking: X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak37IMDCVBAI7zf0Z9nOC/H2IJByVdXH5QxnqG ka75o7u42hUVyhFPUd8XtiA7DmXSRaeu/r1lN9vckvafn/zgL6N/xLlVOVM65e4gS5j7T4UXQpO5MN i1jnQxeV0lEoApXNn/9AcwljbTj8W8/O7zCneAwSS6pY+8ypDyZ+aerJBQ== Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2017 02:29:16 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5a07b1f8c7134_e2243ff0bcb4cf34778339 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I can live with closing this. On Sat, Nov 11, 2017 at 2:00 PM, ianswett wrote: > At some point, we changed padding to be a single byte to allow for padding > to be placed between frames at the request of @larseggert > This seems like a useful feature and we'd > remove that if we got rid of padding entirely, so I don't think QUIC > padding is going away. > > Given that, this issue becomes 'sometimes move padding to the crypto > layer', which is going to make congestion control and bytes in flight > counting potentially more complex, since sometimes we'll do padding in one > place and sometimes the other. > > This is orthogonal to #837 > , since we need to > decide how we want QUIC to work with padding. Where to put the padding > doesn't change that. If we want padding that counts towards bytes in flig= ht > and one that doesn't, we can use PADDING and PING for the two different > cases(or other approaches). > > Given the above, @ekr is there a reason to keep > this open? > > =E2=80=94 > You are receiving this because you were mentioned. > Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub > , > or mute the thread > > . > --=20 You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/197#issuecomment-343709000= ----==_mimepart_5a07b1f8c7134_e2243ff0bcb4cf34778339 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I can live with closing this.

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> At some point, we changed padding to be a single byte to allow for pad= ding
> to be placed between frames at the request of @larseggert
> <https://github.com/larseggert> This seems like a useful feature= and we'd
> remove that if we got rid of padding entirely, so I don't think QU= IC
> padding is going away.
>
> Given that, this issue becomes 'sometimes move padding to the cryp= to
> layer', which is going to make congestion control and bytes in fli= ght
> counting potentially more complex, since sometimes we'll do paddin= g in one
> place and sometimes the other.
>
> This is orthogonal to #837
> <https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/837>, since we nee= d to
> decide how we want QUIC to work with padding. Where to put the padding=
> doesn't change that. If we want padding that counts towards bytes = in flight
> and one that doesn't, we can use PADDING and PING for the two diff= erent
> cases(or other approaches).
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> Given the above, @ekr <https://github.com/ekr> is there a reason= to keep
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----==_mimepart_5a07b24c4ff8e_5f673fdb53c98f38136015c-- From nobody Sat Nov 11 18:39:58 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61926128CDC for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2017 18:39:52 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.402 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.402 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wZseiUlU7L-m for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2017 18:39:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from o7.sgmail.github.com (o7.sgmail.github.com [167.89.101.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A3F4A124BFA for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2017 18:39:47 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=5TCLRu8XIfd64kSp7ilgc7fY5X8=; b=CWjHe+j5G9kcF+hf qOR+8MIVc8GKPkyDiYYR7NGDihIYMIuer1RKiHGbWHj+lZNoBy4u/EdkQytR+LfJ KSKTUSOQIyc83gAHRpauGFBGcz6eYJgYN2A5XdreXMRP0f4aVmgCPtN5eaq1OiYc j5VxXCX+G0hwgKUfWbCtodo9DB0= Received: by filter0084p1iad2.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0084p1iad2-23825-5A07B472-F 2017-11-12 02:39:46.364448619 +0000 UTC Received: from github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net [192.30.253.16]) by ismtpd0022p1iad2.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id BvUmiV66S2KBfhE8PGM3eA for ; Sun, 12 Nov 2017 02:39:46.351 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2017 02:39:46 +0000 (UTC) From: martinduke Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Clarify the length of the authentication tag (#913) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5a07b4724ae07_6c083f96223f8f348769b3"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinduke X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org tracking: X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak0sOi1QRx4NDT/lfIbGfpMtD2JN9mZt7dMppv IrF5KA3HM3SpcTN2Q5h23PmRbeCGj4kNfHyStgxtxZvJNTL5BOjGZaeYHF98rl7m8YuKoxmfFRpqoq RGwkO1QJlmuc18C2+QwcwF0FDre317++2up54IMKaxwIf2qTxM3AM6yqUcD7Uk+C0pq+YQoSoxxmx7 s= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2017 02:39:52 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5a07b4724ae07_6c083f96223f8f348769b3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If in practice all cipher suites use the 16-byte tag, it saves the reader sifting through an endless cascade of documents to dig out the answer. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/913#issuecomment-343709310 ----==_mimepart_5a07b4724ae07_6c083f96223f8f348769b3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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Clarify that the Handshake Secret Connection ID comes from the client Initial packet as opposed to any client packet.

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Fixes #875

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In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> @@ -644,7 +644,8 @@ SHA-256 hash function is used.
 ### Handshake Secrets {#handshake-secrets}
 
 Packets that carry the TLS handshake (Initial, Retry, and Handshake) are
-protected with secrets derived from the client's connection ID. Specifically:
+protected with secrets derived from the connection ID used in the
+client's Inital packet. Specifically:

s/Inital/Initial/

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----==_mimepart_5a07d923547dc_e2123ff0bcb4cf3478173b-- From nobody Sat Nov 11 21:17:14 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E121D128B91 for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2017 21:17:12 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.799 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.799 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.199, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.001, NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qGqrdO3i5pG4 for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2017 21:17:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from m69-169.mailgun.net (m69-169.mailgun.net [166.78.69.169]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 87581128B8E for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2017 21:17:11 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha256; v=1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; q=dns/txt; s=mailo; t=1510463830; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-Type: Mime-Version: Subject: Message-ID: To: Reply-To: From: Date: Sender; bh=3/ANyiH9iubhQ55hjfcCHz9ZNJVNHzTjvsOlFa8e8bw=; b=MckH+F1ZS5GMpRy2NkPJvsVprgDeeZx4NhLsP0hekPNnHJM766BQWwHn5Drtn75JiRlmIiLe yBbzR3JGgOpYGs2YTbjih0cV5aYQWNhbhubxIluqYZC5NEUa0T3mXH3Tyl7IzcPC0TXgTcun KTLiYUIJdlAHtjwtMk86ru+H1NA= Sender: martin.thomson=gmail.com@github.com X-Mailgun-Sending-Ip: 166.78.69.169 X-Mailgun-Sid: WyJhNzYyYiIsICJxdWljLWlzc3Vlc0BpZXRmLm9yZyIsICI0MGYiXQ== Received: from github.com (Unknown [192.30.252.41]) by mxa.mailgun.org with ESMTP id 5a07d956.7efcac04d300-smtp-out-n01; Sun, 12 Nov 2017 05:17:10 -0000 (UTC) Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2017 21:17:09 -0800 From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: Martin Thomson To: quic-issues@ietf.org Message-ID: <5a07d955c24b8_3fb83fd4aed31c3427393@hookshot-fe5-cp1-prd.iad.github.net.mail> Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] da79eb: Clarify the length of the authentication tag Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="--==_mimepart_5a07d955c2116_3fb83fd4aed31c34272be"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2017 05:17:13 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5a07d955c2116_3fb83fd4aed31c34272be Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Branch: refs/heads/master Home: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts Commit: da79ebeaf9e2757d7db1852ac34db8452acd0c20 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/da79ebeaf9e2757d7db1852ac34db8452acd0c20 Author: EKR Date: 2017-11-12 (Sun, 12 Nov 2017) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Clarify the length of the authentication tag Commit: 1754fcef9cb483a6196b84afaf34d14ce2cdc07b https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/1754fcef9cb483a6196b84afaf34d14ce2cdc07b Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2017-11-12 (Sun, 12 Nov 2017) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- expansion isn't the same as authentication tag The size of the authentication tag contributes to the expansion by the AEAD, and it's probably the case that this will remain so, but the expansion could technically be larger (a CBC-mode AEAD for instance might have padding, see https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-mcgrew-aead-aes-cbc-hmac-sha2-05#section-2.3). 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Commit: 24d6437784434fb24b0de5f6e246199e9f56c00a https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/24d6437784434fb24b0de5f6e246199e9f56c00a Author: Patrick McManus Date: 2017-11-11 (Sat, 11 Nov 2017) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- typo fix: inital -> initial Commit: 934314830807c393505bf7b8b9da0120938d6eee https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/934314830807c393505bf7b8b9da0120938d6eee Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2017-11-12 (Sun, 12 Nov 2017) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #915 from mcmanus/mcmanus-tls-handshake-secret-nit clarify connection id for handshake secret Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/846b32ab528e...934314830807 ----==_mimepart_5a07d9782f7df_2e8d83f82033f1c3094296-- From nobody Sat Nov 11 21:30:44 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5449512751F for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2017 21:30:43 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.616 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.616 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gr56y34qsIjp for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2017 21:30:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from o4.sgmail.github.com (o4.sgmail.github.com [192.254.112.99]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0B596124B18 for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2017 21:30:41 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=WHqzxTWCw1TaS6NyzrquyR0T48Y=; b=gMqV/YD0+JSe0q6Z F4Q51nQiBSx9a1JGF9X+I9NGPEAc1Atnb6EnT6jOWPKtS2CJOml1mU44jM9Z+h86 K1UmHSGbLSQXmVfXe0Y5uFWrRXgLvTK2m6HI6VBbeLYR6cXvzes8QRMZXQDqWk+8 iH4rdCVMwALl7fP3EDbDyENhLkg= Received: by filter0098p1iad2.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0098p1iad2-26324-5A07DC80-1B 2017-11-12 05:30:40.914674065 +0000 UTC Received: from github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net [192.30.253.16]) by ismtpd0018p1iad2.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id -S4SVrfiSn-u1DuOkDGsLA for ; Sun, 12 Nov 2017 05:30:40.870 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2017 05:30:41 +0000 (UTC) From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Allow removal of ACK blocks that are in flight (#917) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5a07dc80de828_60f13f8ad33ecf2c11696bb"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org tracking: X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak1EvKHBVrpxufd7H5pwrQtQeKlaNkVqBmG9uT vumNRnZ9Comzinn9DTSyjuewcAH11oemk1l9Mvp276SVU49nG724FUAbNLcefz5ihxezKG/RNfx0X0 cWWS1LbgpSd3dwcbAhU0o7EqoM9zB/DRpGSDIGiHRG24bxD9U5jpTXyeGaHHTfbCmxGe53sjYSguiM E= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2017 05:30:43 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5a07dc80de828_60f13f8ad33ecf2c11696bb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The discussion in #907 seemed to conclude that it was OK to not send all acknowledgments all the time. That PR only mentions removal of ACK blocks based on them having been acknowledged, but did not include the other option, which is to not include ACK blocks that are in flight. There's value in sending acknowledgments more often than once per round trip (timeliness of ACK delivery is tantamount), but there also could be some value in reducing the size of ACK frames if the same ACK block has been sent multiple times already in outstanding packets. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/917 ----==_mimepart_5a07dc80de828_60f13f8ad33ecf2c11696bb Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

The discussion in #907 seemed to conclude that it was OK to not send all acknowledgments all the time. That PR only mentions removal of ACK blocks based on them having been acknowledged, but did not include the other option, which is to not include ACK blocks that are in flight.

There's value in sending acknowledgments more often than once per round trip (timeliness of ACK delivery is tantamount), but there also could be some value in reducing the size of ACK frames if the same ACK block has been sent multiple times already in outstanding packets.

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I think the multiple ack frames issue was closed, but there is still no = clarification on how to handle a situation where ACK's will not fit into a = single frame, or even MTU. Even if unlikely, implementations need guideline= s. How, and when, to not ack certain packets applies here.

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I think the existing text is mostly sufficient(though I realize it's a b= it redundant at the moment, which I'll fix). I really do not advise some c= lever scheme where you send an ack block once and then then stop sending it= for some arbitrary period of time and then start again, so I don't want to= write text implying I'd recommend it.

There is still work to be done to add more discussion of when to send ac= knowledgements and what to include in them, but it was decided in Seattle t= hat the transport draft should focus on the boundaries of what the receiver= should do and the recovery draft can discuss the nuances and optimizations= that are possible with considerations about their pros and cons. That wor= k is tracked in #230<= /p>

"To limit receiver state or the size of ACK frames, a receiver MAY limit= the number of ACK blocks it sends. A receiver can do this even without rec= eiving acknowledgment of its ACK frames, with the knowledge this could caus= e the sender to unnecessarily retransmit some data. When this is necessary,= the receiver SHOULD acknowledge newly received packets and stop acknowledg= ing packets received in the past. Removing ack blocks before the peer has r= eceived them increases the chances the peer never received an acknowledgeme= nt, will declare the packet lost, and spuriously retransmit information."

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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Can you help me understand the pathological case when something is ACK=E2= =80=99d, omitted, then ACK=E2=80=99d again? If the original ACK gets throu= gh, the sender should ignore the second one. If the original ACK gets lost= , it looks to the sender like a severely delayed packet and it will realize= the retransmission was spurious (if it still has data), but might update t= he congestion controller with the un-loss event. That doesn=E2=80=99t seem= so bad at first glance. From: ianswett [mailto:notifications@github.com] Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2017 4:42 PM To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Allow removal of ACK blocks that are in f= light (#917) I think the existing text is mostly sufficient(though I realize it's a bit = redundant at the moment, which I'll fix). I really do not advise some cleve= r scheme where you send an ack block once and then then stop sending it for= some arbitrary period of time and then start again, so I don't want to wri= te text implying I'd recommend it. There is still work to be done to add more discussion of when to send ackno= wledgements and what to include in them, but it was decided in Seattle that= the transport draft should focus on the boundaries of what the receiver sh= ould do and the recovery draft can discuss the nuances and optimizations th= at are possible with considerations about their pros and cons. That work is= tracked in #230 "To limit receiver state or the size of ACK frames, a receiver MAY limit th= e number of ACK blocks it sends. A receiver can do this even without receiv= ing acknowledgment of its ACK frames, with the knowledge this could cause t= he sender to unnecessarily retransmit some data. When this is necessary, th= e receiver SHOULD acknowledge newly received packets and stop acknowledging= packets received in the past. Removing ack blocks before the peer has rece= ived them increases the chances the peer never received an acknowledgement,= will declare the packet lost, and spuriously retransmit information." =E2=80=94 You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub, or mute the thread. --=20 You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/917#issuecomment-343740140= ----==_mimepart_5a0857201fcb5_2a003fd1b1b8cf28220347c Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Can you help me understand the pathological case when something is ACK=E2= =80=99d, omitted, then ACK=E2=80=99d again? If the original ACK gets throu= gh, the sender should ignore the second one. If the original ACK gets lost= , it looks to the sender like a severely delayed packet and it will realize= the retransmission was spurious (if it still has data), but might update t= he congestion controller with the un-loss event. That doesn=E2=80=99t seem= so bad at first glance.

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I think the existing text is mostly sufficient(though I realize it's a = bit redundant at the moment, which I'll fix). I really do not advise so= me clever scheme where you send an ack block once and then then stop sendin= g it for some arbitrary period of time and then start again, so I don't= want to write text implying I'd recommend it.

There is still work to be done to add more discussion of when to send ackno= wledgements and what to include in them, but it was decided in Seattle that= the transport draft should focus on the boundaries of what the receiver sh= ould do and the recovery draft can discuss the nuances and optimizations th= at are possible with considerations about their pros and cons. That work is= tracked in #230<https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/230>

"To limit receiver state or the size of ACK frames, a receiver MAY lim= it the number of ACK blocks it sends. A receiver can do this even without r= eceiving acknowledgment of its ACK frames, with the knowledge this could ca= use the sender to unnecessarily retransmit some data. When this is necessar= y, the receiver SHOULD acknowledge newly received packets and stop acknowle= dging packets received in the past. Removing ack blocks before the peer has= received them increases the chances the peer never received an acknowledge= ment, will declare the packet lost, and spuriously retransmit information.&= quot;

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Can you help me understand the pathological case when something is ACK= =E2=80=99d, omitted, then ACK=E2=80=99d again?

With sufficiently many holes, e.g. loosing every second package because = one of two routing paths are faulty, the number of ack blocks could grow la= rge enough to force having to drop some due to limitations in space dedicat= ed to ACK frames.

Eventually the faulty link unblocks and packets gets through. A number o= f destinct ACK blocks collapses into fewer blocks because the gaps disappea= r.

Avoiding ACK'ing already acked packets might keep the ACK block unnecess= arily high.

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= ----==_mimepart_5a0860d34640d_7d4e3f82be3b4f2c2051484-- From nobody Sun Nov 12 14:23:44 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 460AE1267BB for ; Sun, 12 Nov 2017 14:23:43 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.616 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.616 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Bi0yscxIYae9 for ; Sun, 12 Nov 2017 14:23:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from o1.sgmail.github.com (o1.sgmail.github.com [192.254.114.176]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1D302124F57 for ; Sun, 12 Nov 2017 14:23:42 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=jBRUIW5t4+Jbm/S1apGNtC/E5OY=; b=GAKcqbebrAMHaOSd XzGv55bh4/ZPFr9i3+DZmiNpBolc9NmP9uO595DnioNYwcNzNjjmJeuaahp4LmYf lrxc7pXy/TmQyA0BpS+K7Q1LJDQWyRICtA0EiGPBbox0HWx7kNjRt8y+4bCvGRKm EcNVStllXniWiG+WpBV8jCDc+bs= Received: by filter0625p1las1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0625p1las1-22494-5A08C9ED-3 2017-11-12 22:23:41.240418962 +0000 UTC Received: from github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net [192.30.253.16]) by ismtpd0006p1iad1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id M3XvT92iTAOfAEgv0McUWw for ; Sun, 12 Nov 2017 22:23:40.890 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2017 22:23:41 +0000 (UTC) From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Allow removal of ACK blocks that are in flight (#917) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5a08c9ecc4276_44773f8ad33ecf2c1032675"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org tracking: X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak1FhrGzKweUHaERMr+uOuYBVjvZywHIUTlwtV wOWlIB5RpaaCCfbESNuNVmZzs9RlZlefwCvjrac5VhjuILhTMzSOu9fQursnzzptJBpue7tV4nb+T0 Cf9xPQHj8pp71rYeyf4/JvkcZfKEeQ7pkctR1eJEmH54zDbcR9iG2i9KHw== Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2017 22:23:43 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5a08c9ecc4276_44773f8ad33ecf2c1032675 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @MikeBishop It's not pathological, but the spurious retransmit could be avoided by sending the ack block in all 3 acks. The goal here is very much to avoid spurious retransmits. You could ack every packet exactly once and the transport would still function correctly. Also realize that as @mikkelfj mentions, most packets are in contiguous blocks, so continuing to ack old packets commonly has zero cost in terms of bytes on the wire. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/917#issuecomment-343773166 ----==_mimepart_5a08c9ecc4276_44773f8ad33ecf2c1032675 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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It seems like we're talking about different cases, though. Or you're us= ing examples that seem to argue the other way.

As @mikke= lfj describes, if you have too many ACK blocks (e.g. because that secti= on experienced loss/delays and has many gaps), you might choose to omit som= e older blocks from your ACK frame. But once packets arrive and the contig= uous blocks become larger, you can resume ACKing them because you have fewe= r blocks to express.

Basically, I see the argument against simply forgetting packets that hav= en't been ACK-of-ACK'd yet; you're essentially fabricating loss. But it se= ems like it's a perfectly valid thing to selectively include a subset of th= e packets you know about in your ACK frame if size is an issue.

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Agreed, and I think that's what the text says, particularly after #918, but with the guidance that if you're going to stop acking packets, it's best to stop acking the older ones vs newer ones.

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this matches the reference in client initial packet number

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----==_mimepart_5a08f723f1ba5_e23c3ff0bcb4cf344337884-- From nobody Sun Nov 12 17:39:51 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F802126D85 for ; Sun, 12 Nov 2017 17:39:50 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.181 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.181 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-2.8, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7UfEUsCTCrmY for ; Sun, 12 Nov 2017 17:39:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from o5.sgmail.github.com (o5.sgmail.github.com [192.254.113.10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EFB0A126CB6 for ; Sun, 12 Nov 2017 17:39:48 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=7pgnI6MrDx16W8EPOhfRkclUG8E=; b=ZWQnD1Moa5tsoVUU K3gdxNloQX29geOFIb5w5/SjMlgQWTG97yDCIfh3N0iPxRvKodcRoCER1jokoCkb JcLH6VRGczTrEBMKMZDN9EGdykKpJ7/atSW/VrgNaIP0NpQvpkXoLI1JWDXkqhYm CdZrxPdJnAPI8T6FmBgfkVQ6YrY= Received: by filter0601p1iad2.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0601p1iad2-18308-5A08F7E3-E 2017-11-13 01:39:47.719671455 +0000 UTC Received: from github-smtp2b-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (github-smtp2b-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net [192.30.253.17]) by ismtpd0018p1iad2.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id KV8_TQmbQxGgOrKMZ9vY8w for ; Mon, 13 Nov 2017 01:39:47.725 +0000 (UTC) Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2017 01:39:47 +0000 (UTC) From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] initial server packet number restricted to 31 bits (#920) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5a08f7e390a59_57033f865337ef3835260fd"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org tracking: X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak2Y5iN4Ngdnmdy5pn5KyISMLitR5C7/ICh8MX I0fbTpFpEEh+qP6fQKAsP83u9Dnp+o2GeahDVJDBI6zS+jMWwNpD/t48+ROZ61q/NbS2pMlnktHCDy PsIxdsEtrEN4qAV9cShp0PLBqTTLZ5fMOPTd5eyCNzhnoi2bNspKa98epBS0mQ+D2Ql1uBowF8hAAn k= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2017 01:39:50 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5a08f7e390a59_57033f865337ef3835260fd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hmm, the original text isn't that great. but I think that we'll just take on the 0/1 packet number issue and fix this properly. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/920#issuecomment-343787695 ----==_mimepart_5a08f7e390a59_57033f865337ef3835260fd Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Hmm, the original text isn't that great. but I think that we'll just take on the 0/1 packet number issue and fix this properly.

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Closed #920.

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From #918,

Therefore, receivers SHOULD NOT stop sending an ack block and then start= sending it again substantially later in an effort to save bytes sent.

This seems to be saying that you SHOULD NOT do exactly the thing we just= agreed harms nothing. So I'm a little confused.

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Editorial fixes from my re-review of the recovery doc on the plane and add some text for the RTT calculation section, because it's important.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -194,8 +194,14 @@ round-trip time (RTT) is critical to these algorithms and is described first.
 
 ## Computing the RTT estimate
 
-(To be filled)
+RTT is calculated when an ACK frame arrives by computing the difference
+between the current time and the time the largest newly acked packet was sent.
+If no packets are newly acknowledged, RTT cannot be calculated. When RTT is
+calculated, the ack delay field from the ACK frame SHOULD be subtracted from
+the RTT as long as the result is positive.

Is this the right thing to do?
Sending an ack delay that would make the RTT negative sounds like a protocol violation. If we want to be generous with a peer that might just have adjusted its system time, the right thing to do would be ignoring that RTT sample completely, wouldn't it?

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I'm closing this, because there's already an issue for the 100ms default RTT and otherwise I'm happy with what we have in "Discussion".

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Duplicate of #756.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -194,8 +194,14 @@ round-trip time (RTT) is critical to these algorithms and is described first.
 
 ## Computing the RTT estimate
 
-(To be filled)
+RTT is calculated when an ACK frame arrives by computing the difference
+between the current time and the time the largest newly acked packet was sent.
+If no packets are newly acknowledged, RTT cannot be calculated. When RTT is
+calculated, the ack delay field from the ACK frame SHOULD be subtracted from
+the RTT as long as the result is positive.

It's a good question. GQUIC does what I wrote, but I'm not sure it's the best thing.

The only reason I wouldn't want to throw it out entirely is that it may cause you to get no RTT samples in the worst case.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -194,8 +194,14 @@ round-trip time (RTT) is critical to these algorithms and is described first.
 
 ## Computing the RTT estimate
 
-(To be filled)
+RTT is calculated when an ACK frame arrives by computing the difference
+between the current time and the time the largest newly acked packet was sent.
+If no packets are newly acknowledged, RTT cannot be calculated. When RTT is
+calculated, the ack delay field from the ACK frame SHOULD be subtracted from
+the RTT as long as the result is positive.

Your text is consistent with the pseudocode. Do we need a new issue to track this?

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@ianswett commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -194,8 +194,14 @@ round-trip time (RTT) is critical to these algorithms and is described first.
 
 ## Computing the RTT estimate
 
-(To be filled)
+RTT is calculated when an ACK frame arrives by computing the difference
+between the current time and the time the largest newly acked packet was sent.
+If no packets are newly acknowledged, RTT cannot be calculated. When RTT is
+calculated, the ack delay field from the ACK frame SHOULD be subtracted from
+the RTT as long as the result is positive.

Possibly. Alternately, I can add a sentence indicating that samples may be ignored if the ack delay is too large? I'm not convinced we will or need to come to consensus on this, so it might be better to allow either until we have a strong reason to suggest one over the other.

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I think you can use this constant in DetectLostPackets to replace the line if (time_reordering_fraction != infinite) (which isn't set to infinite anywhere, by the way).

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I have decided to not go into what to retransmit, but I think the DetectLostPackets method(https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/blob/master/draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md#on-packets-lost) is fairly complete now.

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Perhaps this divergent view can be resolved by encouring transmissing ol= der ACK's to reduce gaps, but keep an oldest ACK packet number that progres= ses steadily and beyond which no ACK is transmitted.

This will not grow the ACK ranges because that limit does not introduce = any gaps. This is essentially what I have in my draft implementation.

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I was intending to discuss ack behavior in detail in the recovery draft,= where I will go into approaches like what you're outlining and a few other= s that have been suggested. But yes, your approach is very sensible.

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If we get to the TLP section, retransmittable_packets_outstanding is 1 or larger. So the else is for the >1 case. I did just add a comment to that effect and use retransmittable_packets_outstanding in the first condition for consistency. Does that make sense? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/537#issuecomment-343828629 ----==_mimepart_5a093fea4b45_40143fb70c8c6f38154235 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

The early return ensures we don't set an alarm if there's no retransmitt= able data in flight.

If we get to the TLP section, retransmittable_packets_outstanding is 1 o= r larger. So the else is for the >1 case. I did just add a comment to = that effect and use retransmittable_packets_outstanding in the first condit= ion for consistency.

Does that make sense?

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Oh, I see your confusion. retransmittable_packets_outstanding is an int, not a bool.

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I just renamed it to num_retransmittable_packets_outstanding, which I think should fix your confusion.

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time_of_last_sent_packet should be used to set the loss detection timer, instead of using now.

Fixes #540

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Re-reading this, I'm less sure I understand your comments about duplicat= ed acks. A packet is only acknowledged once and then there's no need to tr= ack it, since acks are irrevocable.

The code is using FACK style loss detection(or time), so there's no need= to store a dupack count anywhere.

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Can anyone remember what else needed to be done to resolve this that was discussed in Paris?

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Are you thinking of the case when all acks are getting lost? If so, we = should hit the CWND limit pretty quickly and start timing out. If only som= e acks are getting lost, it shouldn't matter.

There is a bug in the current text I believe which is that SetLossDetect= ionAlarm() is using now in cases when it should be using time_of_last_sent_= packet. This could cause acks to unnecessarily delay TLPs. That is fixed = in PR #923

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I'd like to provide some guidance here, but I don't have conclusive enou= gh data to offer up guidance I can substantiate at the moment. There are c= ertainly cases when both may make sense. I can add some considerations abo= ut when to choose which if that would be helpful. For both TCP and QUIC, t= his is still an evolving area of research.

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----==_mimepart_5a09729aae637_90453f8d21e76f3811592e-- From nobody Mon Nov 13 02:29:12 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F341A124BE8 for ; Mon, 13 Nov 2017 02:29:10 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.401 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.401 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dh9KQ-MhfquX for ; Mon, 13 Nov 2017 02:29:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from o9.sgmail.github.com (o9.sgmail.github.com [167.89.101.2]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D397412952E for ; Mon, 13 Nov 2017 02:29:02 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=tl8azmr6al8+DQPxw2BEkh+VKl4=; b=O2QmVRLFPFpDtXDV hAmpBFRT1tlNitAOs8HrGPiNODnQgB/W+RGaF5mAGs/rJ8uCtXzll+4LsUAl4gcd JiEJYm9FkvqPgexxjOllOqjbTrueD7Q8fwok7/lqU4FA08rzMvZ5ZwwWRzyzKq6x 954NIt8IjBL1mFLWWnmJDi+shuU= Received: by filter0325p1iad2.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0325p1iad2-16338-5A0973ED-F 2017-11-13 10:29:01.968045533 +0000 UTC Received: from github-smtp2b-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (github-smtp2b-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net [192.30.253.17]) by ismtpd0011p1iad2.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id ZV8xpggwQz6EJs2BEAkY0A for ; Mon, 13 Nov 2017 10:29:01.954 +0000 (UTC) Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2017 10:29:02 +0000 (UTC) From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Default RTT and Slow Start (#590) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5a0973eddc76f_90453f8d21e76f381222841"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org tracking: X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak1prqvolcp/sZHe8NQPTzNvjsmG6mpAMHZ2J/ bZZxn/osFW6uvEGyK8dypMncytJDzp9Qe7xtzENlPJbhui6QbHlAN29OtjKN/0AYeuv6ivhss58AZg q+prH0n8PAXoVj/cNn5ZFrKsztb6gGR3y4wbJOcl5x/f7EHh9pGhEgC7Yc4KQSXGE5W24Zgv2fh8Wd E= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2017 10:29:11 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5a0973eddc76f_90453f8d21e76f381222841 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think this point about not losing packets when they're retransmitted has been clarified in the draft with Jana's PR #801 There's a separate issue for whether 100ms is the right default. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/590#issuecomment-343876926 ----==_mimepart_5a0973eddc76f_90453f8d21e76f381222841 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I think this point about not losing packets when they're retransmitted has been clarified in the draft with Jana's PR #801 There's a separate issue for whether 100ms is the right default.

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Assuming the minimum IP header size, this results in a QUIC packet size of 1232 octets for IPv6 and 1252 octets for IPv4. QUIC endpoints that implement any kind of PMTU discovery SHOULD maintain an estimate for each combination of local and remote IP addresses (as each pairing could have a different maximum MTU in the path). QUIC depends on the network path supporting a MTU of at least 1280 octets. This is the IPv6 minimum and therefore also supported by most modern IPv4 networks. An endpoint MUST NOT reduce their MTU below this number, even if it receives signals that indicate a smaller limit might exist. ``` -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/592#issuecomment-343894292 ----==_mimepart_5a0984abf2121_24b23ff699c26f302653d0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

According to https://quicwg.github.io/base-drafts/dra= ft-ietf-quic-transport.html#rfc.section.9

In the absence of these mechanisms, QUIC endpoints SHOULD NOT se=
nd IP packets larger than 1280 octets. Assuming the minimum IP header size,=
 this results in a QUIC packet size of 1232 octets for IPv6 and 1252 octets=
 for IPv4.
QUIC endpoints that implement any kind of PMTU discovery SHOULD maintain an=
 estimate for each combination of local and remote IP addresses (as each pa=
iring could have a different maximum MTU in the path).
QUIC depends on the network path supporting a MTU of at least 1280 octets. =
This is the IPv6 minimum and therefore also supported by most modern IPv4 n=
etworks. An endpoint MUST NOT reduce their MTU below this number, even if i=
t receives signals that indicate a smaller limit might exist.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -687,7 +687,7 @@ Pseudocode for SetLossDetectionAlarm follows:
       alarm_duration = alarm_duration * (2 ^ handshake_count)
     else if (loss_time != 0):

this is also weird, it's possible that loss_time is greater than tlp timer or RTO, shouldn't we take the min(loss_time, rto_timer, tlp_timer) as the early retransmit timer, or at least min(loss_time, rto)

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -701,7 +701,8 @@ Pseudocode for SetLossDetectionAlarm follows:
       alarm_duration = max(alarm_duration, kMinRTOTimeout)
       alarm_duration = alarm_duration * (2 ^ rto_count)
 
-    loss_detection_alarm.set(now + alarm_duration)
+    loss_detection_alarm.set(time_of_last_sent_packet

for handshake packets should this be the time since the last handshake packet was transmitted?

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Good; minor nits, some structural feedback. > -Different treatment is given to packets that are received while a connection is -in the draining period depending on how the connection was closed. An endpoint -that is in a draining period MUST NOT send packets unless they contain a -CONNECTION_CLOSE or APPLICATION_CLOSE frame. +Disposing of connection state prior to the end of the draining period could +result in delayed or reordered packets to be handled poorly. Endpoints that Nit: Awkward sentence structure. How about "result in" => "cause"? > -Different treatment is given to packets that are received while a connection is -in the draining period depending on how the connection was closed. An endpoint -that is in a draining period MUST NOT send packets unless they contain a -CONNECTION_CLOSE or APPLICATION_CLOSE frame. +Disposing of connection state prior to the end of the draining period could +result in delayed or reordered packets to be handled poorly. Endpoints that +have some alternative means to ensure that late-arriving packets on the +connection do not create QUIC state, such as by closing the UDP socket, MAY use This avoids creating QUIC state, but might generate some ICMP spam (port unreachable). Have we agreed that's okay? > Once the draining period has ended, an endpoint SHOULD discard per-connection -state. This results in new packets on the connection being discarded. An -endpoint MAY send a stateless reset in response to any further incoming packets. +state. This results in new packets on the connection being handled generically. +For instance, an endpoint MAY send a stateless reset in response to any further +incoming packets. The ordering feels odd here. If you go to "closing" first and then "draining," why do we talk about "draining" first? Wouldn't it make more sense to talk about closing, then transition to draining? > The time at which an idle timeout takes effect won't be perfectly synchronized -on peers. A connection enters the draining period when the idle timeout -expires. During this time, an endpoint that receives new packets MAY choose to -restore the connection. Alternatively, an endpoint that receives packets MAY -signal the timeout using an immediate close. +on peers. An endpoint MAY enter a third state where receipt of new packets +causes the connection to be restored to normal operation. "A third state" in a second subsection at the same level feels a little off. If you want to talk about three closing states, I'd make closing/draining/idle three subsections in one place (or just merge this text into the same section above and don't rely on section headers to demarcate). Also, these sections no longer line up with the three bullet points immediately before them. Maybe we need to talk about "closing states" and "ways connections close." > ### Immediate Close -An endpoint sends a CONNECTION_CLOSE or APPLICATION_CLOSE frame to terminate the -connection immediately. Either frame causes all open streams to immediately -become closed; open streams can be assumed to be implicitly reset. After -sending or receiving a CONNECTION_CLOSE frame, endpoints immediately enter a -draining period. - -During the draining period, an endpoint that sends a CONNECTION_CLOSE or -APPLICATION_CLOSE frame SHOULD respond to any subsequent packet that it receives -with another packet containing either close frame. To reduce the state that an -endpoint maintains in this case, it MAY send the exact same packet. However, -endpoints SHOULD limit the number of packets they generate containing either -close frame. For instance, an endpoint could progressively increase the number -of packets that it receives before sending additional packets. +An endpoint sends a closing frame, either CONNECTION_CLOSE or APPLICATION_CLOSE, +to terminate the connection immediately. Either closing frame causes all open Nit: You don't need "open" here. 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Good; minor nits, some structural feedback.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
-Different treatment is given to packets that are received while a connection is
-in the draining period depending on how the connection was closed.  An endpoint
-that is in a draining period MUST NOT send packets unless they contain a
-CONNECTION_CLOSE or APPLICATION_CLOSE frame.
+Disposing of connection state prior to the end of the draining period could
+result in delayed or reordered packets to be handled poorly.  Endpoints that

Nit: Awkward sentence structure. How about "result in" => "cause"?

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
-Different treatment is given to packets that are received while a connection is
-in the draining period depending on how the connection was closed.  An endpoint
-that is in a draining period MUST NOT send packets unless they contain a
-CONNECTION_CLOSE or APPLICATION_CLOSE frame.
+Disposing of connection state prior to the end of the draining period could
+result in delayed or reordered packets to be handled poorly.  Endpoints that
+have some alternative means to ensure that late-arriving packets on the
+connection do not create QUIC state, such as by closing the UDP socket, MAY use

This avoids creating QUIC state, but might generate some ICMP spam (port unreachable). Have we agreed that's okay?

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
 Once the draining period has ended, an endpoint SHOULD discard per-connection
-state.  This results in new packets on the connection being discarded.  An
-endpoint MAY send a stateless reset in response to any further incoming packets.
+state.  This results in new packets on the connection being handled generically.
+For instance, an endpoint MAY send a stateless reset in response to any further
+incoming packets.

The ordering feels odd here. If you go to "closing" first and then "draining," why do we talk about "draining" first? Wouldn't it make more sense to talk about closing, then transition to draining?

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
 The time at which an idle timeout takes effect won't be perfectly synchronized
-on peers.  A connection enters the draining period when the idle timeout
-expires.  During this time, an endpoint that receives new packets MAY choose to
-restore the connection.  Alternatively, an endpoint that receives packets MAY
-signal the timeout using an immediate close.
+on peers.  An endpoint MAY enter a third state where receipt of new packets
+causes the connection to be restored to normal operation.

"A third state" in a second subsection at the same level feels a little off. If you want to talk about three closing states, I'd make closing/draining/idle three subsections in one place (or just merge this text into the same section above and don't rely on section headers to demarcate).

Also, these sections no longer line up with the three bullet points immediately before them. Maybe we need to talk about "closing states" and "ways connections close."

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
 
 ### Immediate Close
 
-An endpoint sends a CONNECTION_CLOSE or APPLICATION_CLOSE frame to terminate the
-connection immediately.  Either frame causes all open streams to immediately
-become closed; open streams can be assumed to be implicitly reset.  After
-sending or receiving a CONNECTION_CLOSE frame, endpoints immediately enter a
-draining period.
-
-During the draining period, an endpoint that sends a CONNECTION_CLOSE or
-APPLICATION_CLOSE frame SHOULD respond to any subsequent packet that it receives
-with another packet containing either close frame.  To reduce the state that an
-endpoint maintains in this case, it MAY send the exact same packet.  However,
-endpoints SHOULD limit the number of packets they generate containing either
-close frame.  For instance, an endpoint could progressively increase the number
-of packets that it receives before sending additional packets.
+An endpoint sends a closing frame, either CONNECTION_CLOSE or APPLICATION_CLOSE,
+to terminate the connection immediately.  Either closing frame causes all open

Nit: You don't need "open" here. All streams are immediately closed; open streams get reset.

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----==_mimepart_5a0a4fe9298d1_46193fb361782f2c852d6-- From nobody Mon Nov 13 18:07:45 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEB9212954B for ; Mon, 13 Nov 2017 18:07:39 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.402 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.402 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tUFp97vgO2xg for ; Mon, 13 Nov 2017 18:07:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from o3.sgmail.github.com (o3.sgmail.github.com [192.254.112.98]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7E619129AEA for ; Mon, 13 Nov 2017 18:07:38 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=JXYnlynRg1DsSbJDwM2l2roSCCM=; b=lANGtM39XwYSfutX IVL4NLmpAwUjZXunlDpqGf3AXKmfzgswfw43TizlAd5qKJi7EBVdAJXRSzAs3V/v knP2pIX0ocqNLrItrHB9pFkl1/veOQ2qhkIStKXFksi6u0CsWL9iCTUiBM6ZcVBo Aimp83prYadwNA8z2D30/u6LGAs= Received: by filter0320p1iad2.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0320p1iad2-23138-5A0A4FE9-4 2017-11-14 02:07:37.074373047 +0000 UTC Received: from github-smtp2b-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (github-smtp2b-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net [192.30.253.17]) by ismtpd0019p1iad2.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id -qwy5FolROOnLmaib3Yu7Q for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2017 02:07:37.131 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2017 02:07:37 +0000 (UTC) From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Number of loss detection timers (#575) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5a0a4fe92f08_93d3ff81a5c8f30111516"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org tracking: X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak3+lqo3isQZM8IkJLlWOlTVnX4NtcbSJ/Jyew vzbKWVtpiawo36ypc5LD/AR/l4HJrlCHsmjtOJK3IKHAjTF5Zc+I3wSNix6A84tg+8A7b/5BiVT94G PbbP1VCxII3u0GFU0xckVWk9MKM+6GqdSTcSfCYS1a2eB3F8fsOjBR6IRst5CbdQ6jROUJ49Mf9Rga 4= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2017 02:07:40 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5a0a4fe92f08_93d3ff81a5c8f30111516 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Agreed. I'm going to close this and we can track other improvements to the timeout text in PR #923 and if we can't figure out something there, we can open a new issue. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/575#issuecomment-344122553 ----==_mimepart_5a0a4fe92f08_93d3ff81a5c8f30111516 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Agreed. I'm going to close this and we can track other improvements to the timeout text in PR #923 and if we can't figure out something there, we can open a new issue.

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This is not currently needed; per scoping discussion, moving to v2.

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Version negotiation is sufficiently covered by the existing draft. Parameter extensibility is not currently needed; per scoping discussion, I think we can move this to v2.

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Sending BLOCKED is a SHOULD (not a MUST), since it's a debug mechanism and not vital to protocol functionality. Clarified retransmission rules to say that you SHOULD retransmit if the limit hasn't changed since the frame was sent, and not otherwise. (If it changed and you're blocked again, you presumably sent a new frame already.) You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/924 -- Commit Summary -- * BLOCKED, SHOULD, and retransmission -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (40) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/924.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/924.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/924 ----==_mimepart_5a0a5a72d3b79_13203fe396c0ef2c1090b5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Fixes #452, #65.

Sending BLOCKED is a SHOULD (not a MUST), since it's a debug mechanism and not vital to protocol functionality. Clarified retransmission rules to say that you SHOULD retransmit if the limit hasn't changed since the frame was sent, and not otherwise. (If it changed and you're blocked again, you presumably sent a new frame already.)

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Fixes #900

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The above solution has proven to be sufficient for now. Though if anyone wants to make a case for QUIC vesicles, feel free to reopen.

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This is better addressed in the management drafts, if it's required for v1. @mirjak, can you open an issue for this if you don't think it's already sufficiently addressed?

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Overtaken by events. RST_STREAM no longer contains transport-level error codes (other than STOPPING), and application versus transport _CLOSE frames are separate.

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The spec describes this as "human-readable," so whatever the implementat= ion wants to use for display. Given than @igorlord has said he doesn't feel strong= ly about this, closing for now. We can revisit in v2 if needed.

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sgtm, but I'm still wondering if we should include the byte offset / max= stream id in those debugging frames. It seems like we're making interpreta= tion of these frame unnecessarily hard by having the receiver guess these v= alues.

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@lu= cas-clemente said in = #227 that using a fixed AEAD on the handshake packets would help addres= s his concern here. We now do.

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@ianswett suggested keeping this open until we can verify that we're not making this difficult in v1.

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----==_mimepart_5a0a61875ba1d_7ac3fe2879f6f38108363-- From nobody Mon Nov 13 19:22:57 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2379E12704A for ; Mon, 13 Nov 2017 19:22:50 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.402 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.402 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id t_x5sQbd9nRk for ; Mon, 13 Nov 2017 19:22:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from o4.sgmail.github.com (o4.sgmail.github.com [192.254.112.99]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1FD94126CC7 for ; Mon, 13 Nov 2017 19:22:49 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=cKtZ+RqLdhZDo/6mY/7/VEwBnCE=; b=bcIlN1NvTn4Z+Re/ 3DP9hsQeQ4Oo7lJxte3nWnD8JPlTUMQKF1S7QOH7DF9fLpThHM//EQ5SzW5bFVfw ERpVB/p3AQCt1azD78nN11YPPE5aaA9KiqcdIl/z8HbAyHz68e+PyDysVsd4WSRH 0SD1lbmyaW6hSg5VATLmjLelefE= Received: by filter0124p1las1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0124p1las1-25874-5A0A6187-16 2017-11-14 03:22:47.810042402 +0000 UTC Received: from github-smtp2b-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (github-smtp2b-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net [192.30.253.17]) by ismtpd0005p1iad1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id RylBTsRkQQ2EKw_AAlphyQ for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2017 03:22:47.611 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2017 03:22:48 +0000 (UTC) From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Connection migration should be indistinguishable from a new connection (#203) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5a0a61877d4cf_653a3ff886398f2824719"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org tracking: X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak02/X3zZ3yqBIyazgScm+pSmXetvVqu9CRGVw 7SMZ7+bVcL0ZA5FStu6fsx1xbiDYwjKOrlEcsGoN5O/L4VXaTcBvcfYPmj8BuWIPg0MTB122WFHpLO 9+pBIbUgO2mmBLPO8Y+lxJzF9QWtClV0uhmqlO4nghgWF85v6gJYJfgajh4J3fXHXD9/UqH4ENTkV4 o= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2017 03:22:50 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5a0a61877d4cf_653a3ff886398f2824719 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reopened #203. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/203#event-1340051060 ----==_mimepart_5a0a61877d4cf_653a3ff886398f2824719 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Reopened #203.

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Interesting suggestion Marten. Given we acknowledge MAX_STREAM_DATA frames and such, I think we get most of the information we need, but I could be wrong.

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Closed #209.

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----==_mimepart_5a0a62ea41d56_19533f9dd8d9ef301833f6-- From nobody Mon Nov 13 19:29:13 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCBE412704A for ; Mon, 13 Nov 2017 19:29:11 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.182 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.182 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-2.8, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MHCBSCTV9_T1 for ; Mon, 13 Nov 2017 19:29:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from o6.sgmail.github.com (o6.sgmail.github.com [192.254.113.101]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 42E2C1242EA for ; Mon, 13 Nov 2017 19:29:10 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=VbRaq4NDmUJzKb0ZKTcP53RpeGc=; b=uMXQj1hrOz3pRMZE 3R8PYA15rmbSp7MwVaOkxk6zWeHW3TUJ6U4cV2UO/lLTTyPpwLMhUhrOTYsZu/ps CDSigTOMznTxVPTfQDVT946539+bacXEfqDlvZEwgb7u7NPOebFBEJ1kOxx0RepX 6gCnmYSYHfm3z9YgaK4CVNbfd0w= Received: by filter0481p1las1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0481p1las1-3158-5A0A6304-4B 2017-11-14 03:29:09.057223637 +0000 UTC Received: from github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net [192.30.253.16]) by ismtpd0001p1iad1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id yHtffiG7QrybCaZwaBjeqg for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2017 03:29:08.935 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2017 03:29:09 +0000 (UTC) From: Marten Seemann Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] BLOCKED, SHOULD, and retransmission (#924) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5a0a6304a6a8a_66653f8275162f3894455"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: marten-seemann X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org tracking: X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak0i2VzR5fGouy+5MqcRB+hPl4dwPzs9Sr6kCU /hfybuxtM2N2zC6EGac2gpB/VZbS73JjWIFZ5F90UMfb4AyiMdZS4mjQhhBLhxtp8Z6hlT5IKg9ZxF P+Rx/UhYbsmnu7GTyZTdD54YiP9AbjtjUVRR0T7FW7NLir03mmxYD2DMvW4iYLaYJ/nH2TDxZahTwG s= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2017 03:29:12 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5a0a6304a6a8a_66653f8275162f3894455 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm not saying it's impossible, but you'd need a data structure keeping tracking of sent MAX_[DATA, STREAM_DATA, STREAM_ID] frames and which of them was acked. There would still be some uncertainty, since it's not guaranteed that the ACK for those frames is received before or at the same time as the debugging frame. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/924#issuecomment-344135455 ----==_mimepart_5a0a6304a6a8a_66653f8275162f3894455 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I'm not saying it's impossible, but you'd need a data structure keeping = tracking of sent MAX_[DATA, STREAM_DATA, STREAM_ID] frames and which of the= m was acked. There would still be some uncertainty, since it's not guarante= ed that the ACK for those frames is received before or at the same time as = the debugging frame.

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I can't find this text in the current drafts. I believe this issue has been OBE.

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----==_mimepart_5a0a67df306d6_2eef3fc1922eef302896a8-- From nobody Mon Nov 13 19:55:35 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3742128796 for ; Mon, 13 Nov 2017 19:55:34 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.254 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.254 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-2.8, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id N-ZezXKkDCmy for ; Mon, 13 Nov 2017 19:55:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from o5.sgmail.github.com (o5.sgmail.github.com [192.254.113.10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 596191242EA for ; Mon, 13 Nov 2017 19:55:33 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=UXZvGWzuUKYYHqUO2mLsVQSnJUc=; b=U1naEv8kNhqSnqjH Ci88pNLGGxBo2TfjO+wnzAa1RXJNfe9F6XcTvztf9aHL3MZ3qh4p6uAcmVSZOVu4 qwPyQVx3W1FdjgzKPb9FTjJJDxbLHA3DUrzA3vQ70Ci5Qw6bfG35bLWxmh60vSFm VE2FdRKsw29ILWvscOqOKWI0lO4= Received: by filter0204p1las1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0204p1las1-29169-5A0A6934-8 2017-11-14 03:55:32.248183703 +0000 UTC Received: from github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net [192.30.253.16]) by ismtpd0006p1iad1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id PCxPyAnlRc6wXZ2eootvDg for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2017 03:55:31.993 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2017 03:55:32 +0000 (UTC) From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Future flexibility limited by QUIC version coming before packet number (#926) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5a0a6933dc9a4_241e3ff4816b0f34737a1"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org tracking: X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak1LbL2yhIKxxNEuCbcnI9lbhygQNgruYQzP5p wAeY6WdYkyVlMyQy0VazFxURiRecn6T5uAiSebzyK2Gv9UV2T2I85z/NAZzXbdgUGMn8d+vp60PUIO y+zdhp9zgu1yC6gsv10tbyj8JKUHUeQozqQN/zZXuaGXDdOwPJwf9NP6Fg== Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2017 03:55:34 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5a0a6933dc9a4_241e3ff4816b0f34737a1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If we ever want to change anything about the packet number in long headers, the version should be first, otherwise we're going to have to do something very awkward. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/926 ----==_mimepart_5a0a6933dc9a4_241e3ff4816b0f34737a1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

If we ever want to change anything about the packet number in long headers, the version should be first, otherwise we're going to have to do something very awkward.

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Closed #231.

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Given that the original issues states this probably isn't worth doing, I= 'm moving this to v2 for now. Feel free to reopen and/or move back if you = want to make the case that the packet number needs to be obfuscated.

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I don't think it would be unreasonable to package the offset or stream I= D in question that triggered sending the frame. That could also help the o= ther side understand whether you're blocked because they misunderstimicated= the window you would need, or if the packet containing their update was si= mply delayed and you should be fine now.

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This has been suggested a couple times, most recently by @marten-seemann in #924: If the flow control debug frames included the value of the block the sender is hitting, it simplifies a couple things:

  • The receiver can know whether they've unblocked the sender already
  • Differences between the two sides' view of the connection window can be identified
  • Retransmission logic might be easier, since it becomes easier to identify whether the state has changed

Splitting this off to unblock the other PR.

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No comment that the draft is unclear for nine and a half months. Feel free to reopen if the draft turns out to be unclear.

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----==_mimepart_5a0a6bb4c5d5b_70a93f9d6984af303570d0-- From nobody Mon Nov 13 20:07:15 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC20D128AFE for ; Mon, 13 Nov 2017 20:07:13 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.402 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.402 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id K6VpgEB5clMG for ; Mon, 13 Nov 2017 20:07:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from o3.sgmail.github.com (o3.sgmail.github.com [192.254.112.98]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C099A127876 for ; Mon, 13 Nov 2017 20:07:12 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=6mrqBPm4O+v9K9KRBqpCq0JOUf0=; b=IvwGGcetS5wDIPfe 82UkVWZ4hAmn8za+09YF+ESCpFmvD73RGlJxHiJEnwojIzE729Byu22z9SDJvkS6 qlX6bBU1f8uJfR8W3ga2Uxo+X0JSKjpCheMxnt7hFGF7GY3Y2zd0eGiwSz2a2925 pt5iodDBN88E4FQ9UnNQINzobC4= Received: by filter0522p1iad2.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0522p1iad2-5209-5A0A6BEF-24 2017-11-14 04:07:11.716184844 +0000 UTC Received: from github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net [192.30.253.16]) by ismtpd0002p1iad2.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id k6BhXYqRQ9qy2S7rQ8aERg for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2017 04:07:11.802 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2017 04:07:12 +0000 (UTC) From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Sending FINs on empty streams (#240) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5a0a6befa9938_2a893f7f38fdaf384587b9"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org tracking: X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak2590nME+GOzHCsjt8fJ3CkAl76c7HAPQRSGi Ge9HJbGaRFtUnv2cYZ0PmJHtE2STvuY4kQ1KMc550QxpiYgfhk6h8DQlltQ/ezw5oj3oicm8GZVFsq 81Eoj0YbgyFdpyVjoiyPLw+sRrTlk0jEgztck1IS5ywHAQ4sxUVgtt+TrzVkoeAPYbfFnkLArG6Bk2 k= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2017 04:07:14 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5a0a6befa9938_2a893f7f38fdaf384587b9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Closed #240. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/240#event-1340086959 ----==_mimepart_5a0a6befa9938_2a893f7f38fdaf384587b9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Closed #240.

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I think this is sufficiently addressed by the bidirectional / unidirectional proposals.

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There was an action item on @janaiyengar and @ianswett here, and it's been pretty quiet since Paris. Any updates?

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OBE. The error handling changes have incorporated appropriate IANA registries and registrations.

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Fixes #927.

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  • include debug infos in BLOCKED, STREAM_BLOCKED and STREAM_ID_BLOCKED

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2123,7 +2123,21 @@ unable to due to connection-level flow control (see {{blocking}}). BLOCKED
 frames can be used as input to tuning of flow control algorithms (see
 {{fc-credit}}).
 
-The BLOCKED frame does not contain a payload.
+The BLOCKED frame is as follows:
+
+~~~
+ 0                   1                   2                   3
+ 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1
++-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
+|                         Offset (i)                         ...
++-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
+

You need another ~~~ here to end the figure.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2123,7 +2123,21 @@ unable to due to connection-level flow control (see {{blocking}}). BLOCKED
 frames can be used as input to tuning of flow control algorithms (see
 {{fc-credit}}).
 
-The BLOCKED frame does not contain a payload.
+The BLOCKED frame is as follows:
+
+~~~
+ 0                   1                   2                   3
+ 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1
++-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
+|                         Offset (i)                         ...
++-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
+

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@ianswett commented on this pull request.

Two comments on formatting, but I think this looks good.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
 Stream ID:
 
 : A variable-length integer indicating the stream which is flow control blocked.
 
+Offset:
+
+: A variable-length integer indicating the current offset of data sent on the
+stream.

nit: I think you need to align 'stream' with 'A' for correct formatting?

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
+: A variable-length integer indicating the stream ID of highest stream that
+could be openend.

same nit on getting the right formatting

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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit martinthomson requested changes on this pull request. > -The BLOCKED frame does not contain a payload. +The BLOCKED frame is as follows: + +~~~ + 0 1 2 3 + 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 ++-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ +| Offset (i) ... ++-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ +~~~ + +The BLOCKED frame contains a single field. + +Offset: + +: A variable-length integer indicating the current offset of data sent on the current is ambiguous. I presume that the intent is to signal the offset at which the blocking occurred. > Stream ID: : A variable-length integer indicating the stream which is flow control blocked. +Offset: + +: A variable-length integer indicating the current offset of data sent on the +stream. Same point here about "current" > +: A variable-length integer indicating the stream ID of highest stream that +could be openend. Typo on opened. I think that we need to be really crisp about this. Is this the value of MAX_STREAM_ID? The alternative would be to signal the stream ID of the stream you wanted to create (which would be bad). -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/928#pullrequestreview-76347727 ----==_mimepart_5a0a9905e751f_3c653fb459da8f3465275 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@martinthomson requested changes on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> -The BLOCKED frame does not contain a payload.
+The BLOCKED frame is as follows:
+
+~~~
+ 0                   1                   2                   3
+ 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1
++-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
+|                         Offset (i)                         ...
++-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
+~~~
+
+The BLOCKED frame contains a single field.
+
+Offset:
+
+: A variable-length integer indicating the current offset of data sent on the

current is ambiguous. I presume that the intent is to signal the offset at which the blocking occurred.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
 Stream ID:
 
 : A variable-length integer indicating the stream which is flow control blocked.
 
+Offset:
+
+: A variable-length integer indicating the current offset of data sent on the
+stream.

Same point here about "current"

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
+: A variable-length integer indicating the stream ID of highest stream that
+could be openend.

Typo on opened.

I think that we need to be really crisp about this. Is this the value of MAX_STREAM_ID? The alternative would be to signal the stream ID of the stream you wanted to create (which would be bad).

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This duplicates #452, which @MikeBishop shouldn't have closed with #924.

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Section 3 on QUIC advertisement finishes with the following paragraph

Servers MAY serve HTTP/QUIC on any UDP port. Servers MUST use the same port across all IP addresses that serve a single domain, and SHOULD NOT change this port.

I have a few questions:

  1. Where does the requirement to use the same port come from?
    a) Does this lock server owners into a single port for eternity? (per-user port advertisement seems unlikely to me)
    b) What happens if a server does listen on different ports? Is it a connection error?
    c) I can see some hypothetical problems, e.g. where Alt-Svc is used for load shedding to a different origin that resolves to an anycast IP, leading to violation. Similar to what has been discussed on #560 and #253.
  2. Should clients pro-actively ignore non-compliant servers?
  3. Why are port changes recommended against?
  4. What should clients do if they see an Alt-Svc within the a HTTP/QUIC connection that changes the port.?

I appreciate the connection of this paragraph to QUIC advertisement. However, it actually seems quite fundamental guidance for HTTP/QUIC server deployments on how they should approach domain, IP and port usage. This makes me wonder if it should be broken out into a separate (sub)section or that it would pay to pull this information out into the manageability document.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

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+: A variable-length integer indicating the stream ID of highest stream that
+could be openend.

No, that wasn't my intention. It should be the same value as sent in the MAX_STREAM_ID frame.

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What does it even mean to place servers on specific ports? That a front = load balancer ensures that this happens?

In docker based cloud environments such as SWARM and Kubernetes each ser= ver instance would be running a random port outside the container and typic= ally some specific port internally, such as port 8080, but often unrelated = to the public port number.

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I pushed the fixes. Please have another look.

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----==_mimepart_5a0aba2396bda_7f223f9785a90f2c328628-- From nobody Tue Nov 14 06:45:16 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 014C6126D85 for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2017 06:45:15 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.02 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.02 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ay9r2AvnVbs4 for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2017 06:45:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from o8.sgmail.github.com (o8.sgmail.github.com [167.89.101.199]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 134441271FD for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2017 06:45:06 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=Kpf+rvdRHPnDdoEhUhbD2AAMEr8=; b=HglssXGiw9FnPPPS 3TNKHB0XQG3lBED8UdltFqKplR4gF5kUEtPUzsfympjtoHS+sjkYgbyiHV68gCnZ 5yCyS9qTc8zW3yfXlkST21i7h8x3gQ41ljVLYENVyVOaE+gzBcu42ra6/EB6Ry+D eo/Y1dcyav2uaCiD7hlKRJAC4vg= Received: by filter0539p1las1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0539p1las1-2022-5A0B0171-10 2017-11-14 14:45:05.73503592 +0000 UTC Received: from github-smtp2b-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (github-smtp2b-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net [192.30.253.17]) by ismtpd0002p1iad1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id M3sPSWZVShKfdMUFBxqT3A for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2017 14:45:05.597 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2017 14:45:05 +0000 (UTC) From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Why MUST a server use the same port for HTTP/QUIC? (#929) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5a0b01717948c_15aa3fc79c81af3097359"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org tracking: X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak2ant5n1n0Plj0w/agUgNMH1rzakVSMkYltKw GrnzzRmhWKjyxxATA5mf+4UlXplcWJGeNEEPrL+2xFqHZeEOEtyMm/Uo0ZNHlFQn8ZBd2jT5ZYDj4F BWLuOB72P9UaYoj8llP6KIY/j0hLgu+JwFy/liCPEO2XRgkMEcb8fCX1VTMdelKb3A8CxD5VYYIW83 U= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2017 14:45:15 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5a0b01717948c_15aa3fc79c81af3097359 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Basically, it's saying that when the client receives an Alt-Svc advertisement that example.com can be reached at port x and hostname foo.bar, that should (and almost certainly SHOULD, but perhaps not MUST) mean a client can successfully receive example.com's content by connecting on port y to any IP address to which foo.bar resolves. That you're allowed to pick ports arbitrarily, but you can't effectively expose different ports from multiple endpoints for the same hostname. There are ways around this -- publish multiple hostnames with multiple Alt-Svc records, for example. If you want to change ports, you would ideally have a transition period the duration of your Alt-Svc record lifetime in which both ports are accepted, though if you don't, a client that tries to connect could fail back to the origin and get the new record. I could see an argument for putting this in the manageability draft, but it's almost more about the manageability of Alt-Svc than it is about QUIC or even HTTP/QUIC. It's pertinent to HTTP/QUIC because Alt-Svc is the only defined way to discover an HTTP/QUIC endpoint, so we want to help implementers get it right. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/929#issuecomment-344280555 ----==_mimepart_5a0b01717948c_15aa3fc79c81af3097359 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Basically, it's saying that when the client receives an Alt-Svc advertis= ement that example.com can be reached at port x and hostname foo.bar, that = should (and almost certainly SHOULD, but perhaps not MUST) mean a client ca= n successfully receive example.com's content by connecting on port y to any= IP address to which foo.bar resolves. That you're allowed to pick ports a= rbitrarily, but you can't effectively expose different ports from multiple = endpoints for the same hostname.

There are ways around this -- publish multiple hostnames with multiple A= lt-Svc records, for example. If you want to change ports, you would ideall= y have a transition period the duration of your Alt-Svc record lifetime in = which both ports are accepted, though if you don't, a client that tries to = connect could fail back to the origin and get the new record.

I could see an argument for putting this in the manageability draft, but= it's almost more about the manageability of Alt-Svc than it is about QUIC = or even HTTP/QUIC. It's pertinent to HTTP/QUIC because Alt-Svc is the only= defined way to discover an HTTP/QUIC endpoint, so we want to help implemen= ters get it right.

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I agree with you on that position, and one of my first editorial changes= to the draft was to excise all occurrences of the term "HTTP/2 over QUIC."= HTTP/2 and HTTP/QUIC are not the same protocol. Just as h2 is the ALPN t= oken and a convenient shorthand for HTTP/2, hq (or HQ) is a perfectly reaso= nable shorthand for HTTP/QUIC. I tend to write it out in anything official= , mostly to avoid anyone thinking I'm talking about headquarters.

I'm fine adding protocol frame naming to our notational conventions. Re= opening to track that suggestion.

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When set, it indicates the presence of the Client Connection ID field in the header. ``` 0 1 2 3 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ |1|I| Type (6) | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | | + Connection ID (64) + | | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | Packet Number (32) | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | Version (32) | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | | + [Client Connection ID (64)] + | | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | Payload (*) ... +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ ``` ``` 0 1 2 3 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ |0|C|I|K|Type(4)| +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | | + [Connection ID (64)] + | | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | | + [Client Connection ID (64)] + | | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | Packet Number (8/16/32) ... +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | Protected Payload (*) ... +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ ``` Then, a server that changes the Connection ID is required include the Client Connection ID in all packets (long and short) it sends until it receives a packet from the client that uses the new Connection ID. Also, I am not positive, but I believe these new flags and fields would have constant across versions. If a client doesn't intent to share the port locally, then they should include the `omit_connection_id` transport parameter When set the server isn't required to send the Client Connection ID. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/714#issuecomment-344294183 ----==_mimepart_5a0b0b4431b11_54cd3fbf4c686f283791ee Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Another possible solution:

Take 1 bit from each header's Type field and designate it the Client Con= nection ID flag (shown as I here). When set, it indicates the = presence of the Client Connection ID field in the header.

 0                   1                   2                   3
 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1
+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
|1|I|  Type (6) |
+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
|                                                               |
+                       Connection ID (64)                      +
|                                                               |
+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
|                       Packet Number (32)                      |
+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
|                         Version (32)                          |
+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
|                                                               |
+                 [Client Connection ID (64)]                   +
|                                                               |
+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
|                          Payload (*)                        ...
+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+

 0                   1                   2                   3
 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1
+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
|0|C|I|K|Type(4)|
+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
|                                                               |
+                     [Connection ID (64)]                      +
|                                                               |
+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
|                                                               |
+                 [Client Connection ID (64)]                   +
|                                                               |
+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
|                      Packet Number (8/16/32)                ...
+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
|                     Protected Payload (*)                   ...
+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+

Then, a server that changes the Connection ID is required include the Cl= ient Connection ID in all packets (long and short) it sends until it receiv= es a packet from the client that uses the new Connection ID.

Also, I am not positive, but I believe these new flags and fields would = have constant across versions.

If a client doesn't intent to share the port locally, then they should i= nclude the omit_connection_id transport parameter When set the= server isn't required to send the Client Connection ID.

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= ----==_mimepart_5a0b0b4431b11_54cd3fbf4c686f283791ee-- From nobody Tue Nov 14 07:32:40 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93651126C89 for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2017 07:32:38 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.616 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.616 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id EgfK8TONWsGx for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2017 07:32:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from o8.sgmail.github.com (o8.sgmail.github.com [167.89.101.199]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4435B12700F for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2017 07:32:37 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=tLkchVgHR761TiPs61TkgiRM24E=; b=smUGAuWMU8dkLQ8h 30k84GaGQ9Ww6m6va6aZoKhnd3LOn+vH7dOBFtS5t+D5iHHEnSO9Pnv3QjNAG8le 7Hu3pDA06cuDbyyGIIE+H2WK76B9Qh/P8A2jC5tiRyNPC/IAYHV55kh7pTmlF3ln TxYEth5h0XRkjFhtAEqIWwagOZk= Received: by filter0503p1iad2.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0503p1iad2-25180-5A0B0C93-72 2017-11-14 15:32:35.887370004 +0000 UTC Received: from github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net [192.30.253.16]) by ismtpd0004p1iad2.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id yZNyzto6RbCfo_lLPqKaSQ for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2017 15:32:35.860 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2017 15:32:36 +0000 (UTC) From: MikkelFJ Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Multiple connections on the same port (#714) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5a0b0c93ca51f_793a3fb5b69e0f38201736"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: mikkelfj X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org tracking: X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak3pfx8Hw7gKWXTauxVdQdgyghRB/t4B0dIvwM NiXB1U1DlVH5GH2X2bodJ0kh9gSCBC3gR6X12abwaChvAVyYdwnTndZwtc0Pg1KDWIxlo+ob4cau/L 0DxrPxq7YCN5fisUdkgHDiOW3+JPGwchnXvfrJeKASMCipJSllIdAYN/J/MD9+XSn/PsX2kjvr+0oi A= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2017 15:32:38 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5a0b0c93ca51f_793a3fb5b69e0f38201736 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @nibanks I have suggested something similar earlier, except I would make unconditional. The overhead of always having the client ID in early long headers would be small and avoids affecting the crowded first byte. Connection migration also have to carry the old connection ID until peer uses the new ID. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/714#issuecomment-344296029 ----==_mimepart_5a0b0c93ca51f_793a3fb5b69e0f38201736 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

@nibanks I have suggested something similar earlier, except I would make uncondit= ional. The overhead of always having the client ID in early long headers w= ould be small and avoids affecting the crowded first byte. Connection migra= tion also have to carry the old connection ID until peer uses the new ID.

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I agree that for Long Headers it shouldn't be a big deal to have it unco= nditionally present, but it would need to be optional for Short Headers. An= d I do feel the Client Connection ID is needed for Short Headers in the 0-R= TT scenario, in case the handshake packet in the Long Header is lost or reo= rdered.

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I'm not up to speed on 0-RTT, but it seems that in this case a long header could be used until the connection settles on a single ID.

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The server replies to 0-RTT packets (Long Header) with 1-RTT packets (Sh= ort Header). If we require the client to acknowledge the new Connection ID = before the server sends Short Header packets, then we effectively lose the = 0-RTT feature if/when the server changes Connection ID.

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= ----==_mimepart_5a0b0f86263f8_7f433f918447ef283709a4-- From nobody Tue Nov 14 08:07:28 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CFAF127876 for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2017 08:07:27 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.019 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.019 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yUMg7QIwLeDd for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2017 08:07:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from o4.sgmail.github.com (o4.sgmail.github.com [192.254.112.99]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1A86B1275F4 for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2017 08:07:24 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=w09YWchuXKsXXQesUrE7CynNdMo=; b=oVmgc/1zt0iLTffi S8B/q5XAtH9JQ/VGBZJp8HaAoGX19iuD1+ZM4Xz7TZqTmoyOQsroWMu1Xie0hhDE RQFC0YS874h/aL/nvsOES4Xv17C4HGqmPL/SzirL8urEODQTKi1QzM3tieshmbDQ Q23vSntNNm0gGD0/5zjNMy+jdVw= Received: by filter0344p1las1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0344p1las1-28503-5A0B14BB-11 2017-11-14 16:07:23.266851782 +0000 UTC Received: from github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net [192.30.253.16]) by ismtpd0007p1iad1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id Wbjb76yRRdWP76HXykA8_w for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2017 16:07:23.103 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2017 16:07:23 +0000 (UTC) From: MikkelFJ Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Multiple connections on the same port (#714) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5a0b14bad9827_51cf3f8349a5cf3816687f"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: mikkelfj X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org tracking: X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak2Gt6e1Y2k3AWBbPjympJ6U5X+oGdkdTExB+z 7/HousufEHsyy7/rNyMd8nX/xZI2XOrw1lGfvewy3+poPtvv4jiRYrs5oTuuzVIRiryrPcDazQlMZm 9cs+fQ47y5v9iJaq1JyUvRwC4S07waICKtenw6ptkpyOnG5fiO6HKsPEiGO/3RftwG3UFuBx94AGN/ A= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2017 16:07:27 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5a0b14bad9827_51cf3f8349a5cf3816687f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @nibanks Right. Another concern is AEAD encryption based on the connection ID. If the client ID is encrypted, the client cannot use the ID to map the new server. However, if the server continues to reply with client connection ID and carries the new server ID in the packet, or perhaps in some TLS parameter as suggestion by @ianswett, then the client can easily make the link between the connections and connection ID based client to server routing would still work since the client changes ID. Still not sure about the 0-RTT impact. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/714#issuecomment-344307767 ----==_mimepart_5a0b14bad9827_51cf3f8349a5cf3816687f Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

@nibanks Right.

Another concern is AEAD encryption based on the connection ID. If the cl= ient ID is encrypted, the client cannot use the ID to map the new server. H= owever, if the server continues to reply with client connection ID and carr= ies the new server ID in the packet, or perhaps in some TLS parameter as su= ggestion by = @ianswett, then the client can easily make the link between the connect= ions and connection ID based client to server routing would still work sinc= e the client changes ID. Still not sure about the 0-RTT impact.

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= ----==_mimepart_5a0b14bad9827_51cf3f8349a5cf3816687f-- From nobody Tue Nov 14 08:21:15 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58D41128BC8 for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2017 08:21:13 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.019 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.019 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id u813hJjfetid for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2017 08:21:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from o1.sgmail.github.com (o1.sgmail.github.com [192.254.114.176]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4D0AB1271FD for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2017 08:21:07 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=Q10ZKS+iXdIHI20wveVfkNeXBmA=; b=pVF4BBzvS2fnXWIb 357qbBLetju/lmByrFIliNDUSt2Xtex+qZUVCw8p0fmuoBG2N0nfSl0SOW8znd6q fzrFb8bOTVptBMnQLkHVj/kuIbQsWsK+WgAx0wxAW4NjINCf+5FKNUc2BWPpwRGf jpjZYNyDhMYH2W9oIXHitWseI+E= Received: by filter0633p1iad2.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0633p1iad2-22099-5A0B17F2-7 2017-11-14 16:21:06.193928696 +0000 UTC Received: from github-smtp2b-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (github-smtp2b-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net [192.30.253.17]) by ismtpd0010p1iad2.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id NCxSPRDeSceHGO2e1vzBxA for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2017 16:21:06.177 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2017 16:21:06 +0000 (UTC) From: Nick Banks Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Multiple connections on the same port (#714) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5a0b17f1ec9bc_38753fd523b7cf2c370968"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: nibanks X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org tracking: X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak0nFH7BhpQDzmV00ImYEwIh4qMzBVp99YpXlM 5a7xA8wSC0i4jxuVQogGyHnj25Z9r7Hn7X6/7+UcARbGn1HlHWRaxFN4Gu6Pf6aOMVK38K3SMFlQfE eLN8Hhn7HykXECyD+owRXvOg3+KnQuYN7Ds1jBVHoQ4+Fy2Vev7oHLSk6LHJp/GyY40u5XqEhtxXjb I= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2017 16:21:13 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5a0b17f1ec9bc_38753fd523b7cf2c370968 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @mikkelfj I'm unsure what you mean in your comment above. The client that receives the packet needs to know the previous Connection ID before it can decrypt it. That means it must be unencrypted. I don't think we should rely on a model where the client is just expected to figure it out by trying to decrypt the packet for all outstanding Connections. I'm not sure how you would ever support encryption offload efficiently in a model like that. As far as using a TLS parameter, that goes back to the problem of needing the previous Connection ID before decryption. Since all TLS data is inside the encryption, that won't work. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/714#issuecomment-344312206 ----==_mimepart_5a0b17f1ec9bc_38753fd523b7cf2c370968 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

@mikkelfj= I'm unsure what you mean in your comment above. The client that receiv= es the packet needs to know the previous Connection ID before it can decryp= t it. That means it must be unencrypted.

I don't think we should rely on a model where the client is just expecte= d to figure it out by trying to decrypt the packet for all outstanding Conn= ections. I'm not sure how you would ever support encryption offload efficie= ntly in a model like that.

As far as using a TLS parameter, that goes back to the problem of needin= g the previous Connection ID before decryption. Since all TLS data is insid= e the encryption, that won't work.

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@nibanks clear text packets are encrypted and tagged with the connection ID (clea= t text AEAD). Thus you need the connection ID to decrypt and verify. But it= was a brain fart because regardless of which connection ID is being used t= o derive a key for cleartext AEAD, the connection ID is avaiable in the pac= ket as clear text at a fixed location.

With TLS, it could work if the server uses the client connection ID in r= esponses and stores the new connection ID in TLS, whereas the opposite woul= d not work. Or did I miss something?

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Maybe we are crossing paths and misunderstanding each other. Here is the= problem I am trying to solve:

  1. A client has N new Connections (in the handshake state) to the same rem= ote IP/Port on the same local IP/Port.
  2. The client receives a packet (long header or short header) on that loca= l IP/Port with a Connection ID it doesn't know about.

How can the client determine which Connection to deliver that packet to = for processing?

Since the packet is encrypted with the Client Connection ID and not the = Server Connection ID, it cannot decrypt the packet until it has determined = what the Client Connection ID was. Therefore, it cannot rely on any encrypt= ed information to calculate the Client Connection ID.

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= ----==_mimepart_5a0b1b9a5fd2d_18453fc7ee05cf3028746e-- From nobody Tue Nov 14 11:10:11 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71C29127BA3 for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2017 11:10:09 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.8 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.8 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-2.8, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hggbaUt0lvrg for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2017 11:10:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from o6.sgmail.github.com (o6.sgmail.github.com [192.254.113.101]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8107312704A for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2017 11:10:07 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=cb63+7Doe8wYzYVZZE5RbFyJI/I=; b=D9nHEIHmVRR7r9pm 3F3YkrPSqyHYtotKvqy8Z5ESgMO6W2GHDImOIkv9K3nI/yDl1jo58OynsNDujpP/ GCEmHJwQYfbmrXohu9VkmifNTAupZhsegY2vFrZ/48PAs3dmvHpPC68qZu2QP2wd APcCriMxflDsFT3V2+coDsez6hA= Received: by filter1131p1mdw1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter1131p1mdw1-2052-5A0B3F8B-47 2017-11-14 19:10:03.965981671 +0000 UTC Received: from github-smtp2b-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (github-smtp2b-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net [192.30.253.17]) by ismtpd0010p1iad1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id 7tAocRnrTa6gC4vMy8lX3g for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2017 19:10:03.967 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2017 19:10:04 +0000 (UTC) From: MikkelFJ Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Multiple connections on the same port (#714) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5a0b3f8bd9725_1ea83fa548436f341003d5"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: mikkelfj X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org tracking: X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak2wK9jHQnZCh2zguDYHLPp+nvQh4SkqptJrr/ E6dbVwwd9Wc7m9LXX15zjY14ZKHwlRiXBiDteCH5meFIu29Vfo08w0qPDBR3PSTxSo89zznUxkMIKE hV9ZGoOQscX6kOcPBqetDU6KHPi4W0XpioBYO2qFELFPQ4l23B8bIUEafQ== Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2017 19:10:09 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5a0b3f8bd9725_1ea83fa548436f341003d5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @nibanks I think we see and intend the same thing, largely. Speaking only of clear text packets with no TLS magic: a clear text packet is encrypted with a key derived from the connection ID listed in the same packets header. It does not matter what type of connection ID it is because the key can be derived regardless. There is no need to make a connection assocation with internal context before decryption. Once decrypted the new proposed client-ID can be retrieved and the necessary association created. (Becauase encryption contexts may be cashed, it may matter for efficiency whether client-ID or server-ID is being used, but it does not for being able to decrypt or assocaite contexts, assuming the extra proposed ID field). As to carrying the missing ID in TLS: (I'm not fully up to speed here), but it would be necessary to have the client ID visible such that the client can efficiently associate server packets with client context and retrieve content, but I'll skip the details. I believe Ians proposal was to keep using the client ID until a server ID update was received and for all practical purposes start a new connection with that ID, which might add som roundtrip overhead, though I'm not sure. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/714#issuecomment-344364816 ----==_mimepart_5a0b3f8bd9725_1ea83fa548436f341003d5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

@nibanks I think we see and intend the same thing, largely.

Speaking only of clear text packets with no TLS magic: a clear text pack= et is encrypted with a key derived from the connection ID listed in the sa= me packets header. It does not matter what type of connection ID it is beca= use the key can be derived regardless. There is no need to make a connectio= n assocation with internal context before decryption. Once decrypted the ne= w proposed client-ID can be retrieved and the necessary association created= . (Becauase encryption contexts may be cashed, it may matter for efficiency= whether client-ID or server-ID is being used, but it does not for being ab= le to decrypt or assocaite contexts, assuming the extra proposed ID field).=

As to carrying the missing ID in TLS: (I'm not fully up to speed here), = but it would be necessary to have the client ID visible such that the clien= t can efficiently associate server packets with client context and retrieve= content, but I'll skip the details. I believe Ians proposal was to keep us= ing the client ID until a server ID update was received and for all practic= al purposes start a new connection with that ID, which might add som roundt= rip overhead, though I'm not sure.

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@mikkelfj= This statement is incorrect:

a clear text packet is encrypted with a key derived from the connection = ID listed in the same packets header.

Handshake packets are encrypted with the client's connection ID, which t= he server doesn't include in the packet currently. See this quote from the = TLS section 5.2.1:

Packets that carry the TLS handshake (Initial, Retry, and Handshake) are= protected with secrets derived from the connection ID used in the client= =E2=80=99s Initial packet.

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@nibanks ahh I see. Then some tweaking is needed such as keeping the client ID in return path and optionally list a new server ID as an optional packet field. Isn't this then largely Ians proposal in #713?

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I think we should try: 'Put a new connection ID in a TLS extension or QU= IC transport params' and then always have the client be the one to change t= he routing connection ID first and the server replies once it sees it. I t= hink that works both for stateless reset and for changing connection ID on = the SHLO, and it seems a lot more explicit than just allowing the server to= change the connection ID at certain points in the handshake without knowin= g what the new one will be.

@mikkelfj= Yes, that's what I was hoping to use to close #713 as well.

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These three things are currently specified by the transport spec:

  1. The meaning of packet type values and the presence/meaning of fields beyond the Connection ID in a Short Header packet is version-dependent
  2. Stateless Reset messages are structured to look like a Short Header packet, including choosing a short-packet-number type value
  3. Stateless Reset messages can be sent without knowing the version of the unknown connection

These can't all be true -- pick any two.

My inclination is that we'll want to compromise on the second point. We may wind up accepting that Stateless Resets might become detectable if the arrangement of Short Header packet type values differs between versions. If we implement some form of #311, that will make it more difficult for an intermediary to identify when a server has used the "wrong" packet type and might mitigate that somewhat. Alternately, we retain the "SHOULD use packet type 0x01" and recommend that future versions make sure that codepoint is a reasonable one for Stateless Reset.

Odds are good, but not certain, that if a future version adds new unencrypted fields to the Short Header, random bytes will be at least a plausible value for those.

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Agreed, this is definitely an problem with the current draft.

I previously assumed stateless reset would end up being largely version = independent, or if we wanted to change it slightly, we'd package it in the = same short header packet. ie: I'm going to send you a 16 byte token at the= end and then a 32 byte token before that and you can accept whichever work= s for you depending upon your version. That would imply that the 16 bytes = at the end becomes part of the invariants, but nothing else? Does that see= m acceptable?

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After chatting with @RyanAtGoogle, the 16 bytes would not be a true invarian= t, but something that could not change while the server still spoke QUIC v1= . If the server stopped supporting v1 and v2 had a new reset, then it'd on= ly have to worry about v2.

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= ----==_mimepart_5a0b8079b24e0_76a23fded4d6cf3449518f-- From nobody Tue Nov 14 15:53:33 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C3E8126BFD for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2017 15:53:32 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.02 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.02 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NBOB-0hFC_YZ for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2017 15:53:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from o7.sgmail.github.com (o7.sgmail.github.com [167.89.101.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 87430127286 for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2017 15:53:30 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=yJaq+Cg5iw32KvAslJCipqmfkA8=; b=xa/9edW4B5CfDAaE +3F/yl8NZd9oygZozvX7H9sDc8liO8fodAXzWU6lQustxm/rA3QizNaNzaRy51fP mQU0CO80sdEo8Vb/BrK6Q+u2HV/VSsczh+tYqGHKjSfuD3pJ1m1R/YTcorUit8eo 01Xyhdj4tUklNFON9XZGhe+XldI= Received: by filter1160p1mdw1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter1160p1mdw1-3230-5A0B81F8-3A 2017-11-14 23:53:28.829835959 +0000 UTC Received: from github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net [192.30.253.16]) by ismtpd0005p1iad1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id 0WBflRwOQNyLpNxvPI0sAg for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2017 23:53:28.795 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2017 23:53:28 +0000 (UTC) From: Ryan Hamilton Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Invariants and Stateless Reset (#930) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5a0b81f8ae8e6_32813fd92cc06f302567b6"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: RyanAtGoogle X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org tracking: X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak0XtP5vg+Ux9SpXRye9dpXTp9ByOxffCC6b/H UjnqIRyy63g+I8B5YKXuhUN4tHLrQVt9uaN8qENtodsQuFrNhEh1VGBilyd5ttxbEHW/2ptertto3J gEArs9B3zoy4Cz4N7nlcF4iWuYsfZlEM2wpTVm3ibMZT45w93iLenZwL6pgB6vfaxFg5togxxh4gO1 Q= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2017 23:53:32 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5a0b81f8ae8e6_32813fd92cc06f302567b6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Right. As long as a server (and all servers in the same ... cluster/farm/region) speaks only a single version, then there is no ambiguity since the Stateless Reset will be sent on a connection that this server (or one of it's friends) created. However, if the server does support two different version that have different packet types/public header fields then there is ambiguity. I suspect there are heuristics that the server can use to help here, and perhaps a bit of though when creating the format of the new QUIC version will also help. For example if the new QUIC version adds new packet types, then the the presence of one of these new values indicates to the server that this must be the new version. If the new QUIC version is designed so that when any new fields are added for an existing packet type a Stateless Reset from the old QUIC version would still work, then the server can just sent an old version. So I think that as long as we're careful, we should be OK here? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/930#issuecomment-344439804 ----==_mimepart_5a0b81f8ae8e6_32813fd92cc06f302567b6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Right. As long as a server (and all servers in the same ... cluster/farm= /region) speaks only a single version, then there is no ambiguity since the= Stateless Reset will be sent on a connection that this server (or one of i= t's friends) created. However, if the server does support two different ver= sion that have different packet types/public header fields then there is am= biguity. I suspect there are heuristics that the server can use to help her= e, and perhaps a bit of though when creating the format of the new QUIC ver= sion will also help.

For example if the new QUIC version adds new packet types, then the the = presence of one of these new values indicates to the server that this must = be the new version. If the new QUIC version is designed so that when any ne= w fields are added for an existing packet type a Stateless Reset from the o= ld QUIC version would still work, then the server can just sent an old vers= ion.

So I think that as long as we're careful, we should be OK here?

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But I'm assuming for the discussion that a server speaks multiple versions and doesn't know which version was used for an incoming short packet without connection state. In order to support that scenario, at least part of Reset needs to be invariant, I think. However, you're right that careful design in future versions will aid the ability of a Reset to "blend in." -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/930#issuecomment-344458066 ----==_mimepart_5a0b9a83bb41d_7b963f9140cfef34338259 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

As long as an endpoint only speaks a single version, many of the invaria= nts don't really matter. But I'm assuming for the discussion that a server = speaks multiple versions and doesn't know which version was used for an inc= oming short packet without connection state.

In order to support that scenario, at least part of Reset needs to be in= variant, I think. However, you're right that careful design in future vers= ions will aid the ability of a Reset to "blend in."

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Fixes #831.

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  • simplify sending of reserved version numbers

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@MikeBishop, can you sanity check this. I think that this is a good change.

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----==_mimepart_5a0bb6b9cd1d_65ea3fa71734af281730a8-- From nobody Tue Nov 14 20:26:37 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E9211294DB for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2017 20:26:35 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.615 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.615 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ip_8STV1SOwr for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2017 20:26:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from o9.sgmail.github.com (o9.sgmail.github.com [167.89.101.2]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0C88B1294D2 for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2017 20:26:33 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=CKSJy99JSIutmNils0Ht/RKqgWU=; b=MkhtCIjW3NVT2hhl a5aVDxDqYZTVK5gpTzGTKqNDJLIU5WN4f3t2mo4SwTCiw2MUuDEie9tzToLUxbZe 7o9kXfnYzi18vx1l9w7qnKDyY4hCbD4Rbjz7Z0uEj+zQPn1MiZK7zyoiCYsm0Rlz dU1344TeYiTvRrwMXQHJ0dUE5dw= Received: by filter0920p1mdw1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0920p1mdw1-18444-5A0BC1F9-2 2017-11-15 04:26:33.030841533 +0000 UTC Received: from github-smtp2b-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (github-smtp2b-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net [192.30.253.17]) by ismtpd0004p1iad1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id KbbfYKWuQo2ZVVRdX0j5ig for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2017 04:26:32.990 +0000 (UTC) Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2017 04:26:33 +0000 (UTC) From: Lucas Pardue Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Consistently send SETTINGS streams 2 and 3 (#932) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5a0bc1f8ddd08_944b3fb003deaf38377148"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: LPardue X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org tracking: X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak0D8afUqraMqnxEhgjI0da+/YOPODvWt6GVEY PyUo5U8J3PoT6YSpk+QgRB8GxBe9b94Y4ycNiKAQypB6p9Xd7Vv/PGwa+tTH5VfxfJmFcpQdgzeNuX 77dgK364NaRdcdkGhy0qoZuSnaepGc2tQ2KRKa1hsNw95JWy067x+sRoUrgumLJ+Eh+B0wP1YrGP95 8= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2017 04:26:35 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5a0bc1f8ddd08_944b3fb003deaf38377148 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This change just updates some text that seems to be overlooked, making consistent usage of stream ID 2 and 3 for SETTINGS frames. You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/932 -- Commit Summary -- * consistently send SETTINGS streams 2 and 3 -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-http.md (7) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/932.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/932.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/932 ----==_mimepart_5a0bc1f8ddd08_944b3fb003deaf38377148 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

This change just updates some text that seems to be overlooked, making consistent usage of stream ID 2 and 3 for SETTINGS frames.

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  • consistently send SETTINGS streams 2 and 3

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  • 338f6ef Fix trailing whitespace issue

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Commit: 338f6ef7b5fa298154cdf6932ec284abb1ca8607 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/338f6ef7b5fa298154cdf6932ec284abb1ca8607 Author: Lucas Pardue Date: 2017-11-15 (Wed, 15 Nov 2017) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-http.md Log Message: ----------- Fix trailing whitespace issue ... caused CI errors Commit: 772d0e4eb76d2b227679d181e4fa29e8fbc95def https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/772d0e4eb76d2b227679d181e4fa29e8fbc95def Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2017-11-15 (Wed, 15 Nov 2017) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-http.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #932 from LPardue/patch-4 Consistently send SETTINGS streams 2 and 3 Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/f7a84412c09b...772d0e4eb76d ----==_mimepart_5a0bc908db253_4e643fecdcfd1c3c107456-- From nobody Tue Nov 14 20:56:53 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CD7912922E for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2017 20:56:46 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.401 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.401 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Q5yUItnCUw-Z for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2017 20:56:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from o3.sgmail.github.com (o3.sgmail.github.com [192.254.112.98]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A9018128B4E for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2017 20:56:44 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=oG7JO7OhV0DaZ9vEGEVEZJjLZrI=; b=I+nYMgPVfS3I12jR D6nbdFXtufFQCUPLMNJG26+MRTbLZVA58BhxLvIs/4WXXfIYDCWyncckQPUiOQ/e qgYWWrVKheeF53vSP0+vEEtX64zYqBZORz2T54lrrMe+i8DPjdsDZhue6boFPOo+ y77/UvSpCo2XSbJutrNWOxNB8Dw= Received: by filter0433p1mdw1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0433p1mdw1-19183-5A0BC90B-1 2017-11-15 04:56:43.092952461 +0000 UTC Received: from github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net [192.30.253.16]) by ismtpd0003p1iad1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id 8IOZsjTDRuuNdUiURRyOkw for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2017 04:56:43.051 +0000 (UTC) Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2017 04:56:43 +0000 (UTC) From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Consistently send SETTINGS streams 2 and 3 (#932) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5a0bc90aec6c4_3f283fcae1a96f28463279"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org tracking: X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak2081xn2ZZLokzfEP6wQJwJ9LU29uKWp6o2xj f0Oqf0gsXcKIgdmVWuYEDTmpwNt6ir8VuQPRuVCbab/Ur57h7KTz0p5JMy7VzIqDDUKCtzlA08Ck+g UHwosFvrI6fINQ5cV3ECYrgluhgWjC9EKraY89xNi3la9YXzXtadpf1mu40bCtU+QJH/ncePCr8tq8 Y= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2017 04:56:46 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5a0bc90aec6c4_3f283fcae1a96f28463279 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Merged #932. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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Merged #932.

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(#929) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5a0bd9f4ccda8_28683fc7a17bcf344109f4"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: LPardue X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org tracking: X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak3pvch5Eee/B/uezry435rO0heeVmuo6i4nsI jCtPoOUus0JTxBXNYk5EUi2Jp+z+mZPLZUro2BsCw/LC8/5Yz0mWcyx0AmhRc+PN8skFnfOeNpL5Po Ymn00pca7321rJxDobv9XkA55tLOncJzt+Sb9t66q4pJvC3K6IOIbOUWO1Gp2kziuG458BCLhxZmzy M= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2017 06:08:57 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5a0bd9f4ccda8_28683fc7a17bcf344109f4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ok, I can buy into the justification to keep it in the HTTP mapping document. I think the section could be tightened up a bit; there seems some fuzziness between advertising servers and providing servers. It's not a burning issue and I could prepare some text to improve things (as I see it). I think this general topic is exacerbated by the implicit dependence on TCP as a fallback, I don't see any text in core documents that clearly state that. I welcome guidance and would highlight that, with my naive QUIC-enabled server deployment hat on, it isn't immediately clear how I should design my Alt-Svc advertisement strategy to be compliant. Or what the failure conditions are if I fail to comply. Does the case you describe uniquely apply to UDP ports or to TCP too? Is it acceptable to share the number but only across TCP/UDP (I'd say yes because they are distinct spaces)? > That you're allowed to pick ports arbitrarily, but you can't effectively expose different ports from multiple endpoints for the same hostname. I'm not sure I see why this is a problem only for HTTP/QUIC, yet I have not seen similar requirements being expressed for other Alt-Svc advertisements. To replay what I think you're saying, in example form: | Origin | Alternative | Prohibited | Comment | | - | -| -| -| | https://example.com:443 | h2=":443" | No | Conventional h2 case, alternative has same hostname and same port | | https://example.com:443 | h2=":12345" | Yes? | Conventional h2 case, alternative has same hostname and different port | | https://example.com:443 | h2="foo.example.com:443" | No | Conventional h2 case, alternative has different hostname and same port| | https://example.com:443 | h2="foo.example.com:1234" | No | Conventional h2 case, alternative has different hostname and different port | | https://example.com:443 | h2="foo.example.com:12345", h2="foo.example.com:12346" | Yes? | Two h2 alternatives that share the same hostname but different ports. | | https://example.com:443 | hq=":443" | No | Simple hq case, alternative has same hostname and same port number but vary by TCP/UDP | | https://example.com:443 | hq=":12345" | No | Simple hq case, alternative has same hostname and different port, permitted by TCP/UDP | | https://example.com:433 | hq="foo.example.com:443" | No | Simple hq case, alternative has different hostname and same port number, permitted by TCP/UDP and different host | | https://example.com:433 | hq="foo.example.com:12345" | No | Simple hq case, alternative has different hostname and different port, permitted by TCP/UDP and different host | | https://example.com:443 | hq="foo.example.com:12345", hq="foo.example.com:12346" | Yes | Two hq alternatives that share the same hostname but different port on UDP | | https://example.com:12345 (a hq endpoint) | hq=":12346" | Yes | A hq origin is advertising its own hostname with a different port | | https://example.com:12345 (a hq endpoint talking quic version 0xff00000C) | hq=":12346"; quic=D | Yes | A hq origin talking version C is advertising its own hostname with a different port and the different version D | I'm tired so may be completely misunderstanding things. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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Ok, I can buy into the justification to keep it in the HTTP mapping docu= ment. I think the section could be tightened up a bit; there seems some fuz= ziness between advertising servers and providing servers. It's not a burnin= g issue and I could prepare some text to improve things (as I see it).

I think this general topic is exacerbated by the implicit dependence on = TCP as a fallback, I don't see any text in core documents that clearly stat= e that.

I welcome guidance and would highlight that, with my naive QUIC-enabled = server deployment hat on, it isn't immediately clear how I should design my= Alt-Svc advertisement strategy to be compliant. Or what the failure condit= ions are if I fail to comply.

Does the case you describe uniquely apply to UDP ports or to TCP too? Is= it acceptable to share the number but only across TCP/UDP (I'd say yes bec= ause they are distinct spaces)?

That you're allowed to pick ports arbitrarily, but you can't effectively= expose different ports from multiple endpoints for the same hostname.

I'm not sure I see why this is a problem only for HTTP/QUIC, yet I have = not seen similar requirements being expressed for other Alt-Svc advertiseme= nts.

To replay what I think you're saying, in example form:

Origin Alternative Prohibited Comment
https://example.com:443 h2=3D":443" No Conventional h2 case, alternative has same hostname and same port
https://example.com:443 h2=3D":12345" Yes? Conventional h2 case, alternative has same hostname and different port<= /td>
https://example.com:443 h2=3D"foo.example.com:443" No Conventional h2 case, alternative has different hostname and same port<= /td>
https://example.com:443 h2=3D"foo.example.com:1234" No Conventional h2 case, alternative has different hostname and different = port
https://example.com:443 h2=3D"foo.example.com:12345", h2=3D"foo.example.com:12346" Yes? Two h2 alternatives that share the same hostname but different ports.
https://example.com:443 hq=3D":443" No Simple hq case, alternative has same hostname and same port number but = vary by TCP/UDP
https://example.com:443 hq=3D":12345" No Simple hq case, alternative has same hostname and different port, permi= tted by TCP/UDP
https://example.com:433 hq=3D"foo.example.com:443" No Simple hq case, alternative has different hostname and same port number= , permitted by TCP/UDP and different host
https://example.com:433 hq=3D"foo.example.com:12345" No Simple hq case, alternative has different hostname and different port, = permitted by TCP/UDP and different host
https://example.com:443 hq=3D"foo.example.com:12345", hq=3D"foo.example.com:12346" Yes Two hq alternatives that share the same hostname but different port on = UDP
https://example.com:12345 (a = hq endpoint) hq=3D":12346" Yes A hq origin is advertising its own hostname with a different port
https://example.com:12345 (a = hq endpoint talking quic version 0xff00000C) hq=3D":12346"; quic=3DD Yes A hq origin talking version C is advertising its own hostname with a di= fferent port and the different version D

I'm tired so may be completely misunderstanding things.

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(#929) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5a0bf742df35b_2bf33fb23bfbcf341281618"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org tracking: X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak2suqWaDX1mc5SXX50BlIdwkBUtiG6VM4cyGi i4aQ3Eq3uJ5E3nWzkSxI6ImsjPofsrj0QEvgNhrmUFOgX8Dau0/0puKKWhKW5WWk7MlAjaDYYperzd U7GEdKfSNSc6mLq3XjGh2JbK/ZiJ1pkCNi2B9ozVW6KcUUj3pXHewkVEmIl2uCIxBfOBJCD8f8YFv8 g= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2017 08:14:03 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5a0bf742df35b_2bf33fb23bfbcf341281618 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable None of those examples should be prohibited, from a quick glance, because y= ou seem to be presenting hostnames. This is a deployment point, and the wo= rding could be tightened (or perhaps dropped). QUIC or not, if an Alt-Svc alternative has multiple IP addresses, then the = port (for that alternative) has to be the same across all of them because y= ou=E2=80=99re advertising a hostname and port combination. If they=E2=80= =99re separate alternatives, they can have separate ports; that=E2=80=99s f= ine. TCP and UDP are completely independent spaces, but technically the sa= me advice/requirement would apply to whichever port space an alternative ha= ppens to be in. It=E2=80=99s basically saying that you can and perhaps should randomize you= r port, but the granularity of that randomization can=E2=80=99t be per-inst= ance. From: Lucas Pardue [mailto:notifications@github.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 2:09 PM To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Mike Bishop ; Comment Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Why MUST a server use the same port for H= TTP/QUIC? (#929) Ok, I can buy into the justification to keep it in the HTTP mapping documen= t. I think the section could be tightened up a bit; there seems some fuzzin= ess between advertising servers and providing servers. It's not a burning i= ssue and I could prepare some text to improve things (as I see it). I think this general topic is exacerbated by the implicit dependence on TCP= as a fallback, I don't see any text in core documents that clearly state t= hat. I welcome guidance and would highlight that, with my naive QUIC-enabled ser= ver deployment hat on, it isn't immediately clear how I should design my Al= t-Svc advertisement strategy to be compliant. Or what the failure condition= s are if I fail to comply. Does the case you describe uniquely apply to UDP ports or to TCP too? Is it= acceptable to share the number but only across TCP/UDP (I'd say yes becaus= e they are distinct spaces)? That you're allowed to pick ports arbitrarily, but you can't effectively ex= pose different ports from multiple endpoints for the same hostname. I'm not sure I see why this is a problem only for HTTP/QUIC, yet I have not= seen similar requirements being expressed for other Alt-Svc advertisements. To replay what I think you're saying, in example form: Origin Alternative Prohibited Comment https://example.com:443 h2=3D":443" No Conventional h2 case, alternative has same hostname and same port https://example.com:443 h2=3D":12345" Yes? Conventional h2 case, alternative has same hostname and different port https://example.com:443 h2=3D"foo.example.com:443" No Conventional h2 case, alternative has different hostname and same port https://example.com:443 h2=3D"foo.example.com:1234" No Conventional h2 case, alternative has different hostname and different port https://example.com:443 h2=3D"foo.example.com:12345", h2=3D"foo.example.com:12346" Yes? Two h2 alternatives that share the same hostname but different ports. https://example.com:443 hq=3D":443" No Simple hq case, alternative has same hostname and same port number but vary= by TCP/UDP https://example.com:443 hq=3D":12345" No Simple hq case, alternative has same hostname and different port, permitted= by TCP/UDP https://example.com:433 hq=3D"foo.example.com:443" No Simple hq case, alternative has different hostname and same port number, pe= rmitted by TCP/UDP and different host https://example.com:433 hq=3D"foo.example.com:12345" No Simple hq case, alternative has different hostname and different port, perm= itted by TCP/UDP and different host https://example.com:443 hq=3D"foo.example.com:12345", hq=3D"foo.example.com:12346" Yes Two hq alternatives that share the same hostname but different port on UDP https://example.com:12345 (a hq endpoint) hq=3D":12346" Yes A hq origin is advertising its own hostname with a different port https://example.com:12345 (a hq endpoint talking quic version 0xff00000C) hq=3D":12346"; quic=3DD Yes A hq origin talking version C is advertising its own hostname with a differ= ent port and the different version D I'm tired so may be completely misunderstanding things. =E2=80=94 You are receiving this because you commented. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub, or mute the thread. --=20 You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/929#issuecomment-344517207= ----==_mimepart_5a0bf742df35b_2bf33fb23bfbcf341281618 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable None of those examples should be prohibited, from a quick glance, because y= ou seem to be presenting hostnames. This is a deployment point, and the wo= rding could be tightened (or perhaps dropped).

QUIC or not, if an Alt-Svc alternative has multiple IP addresses, then the = port (for that alternative) has to be the same across all of them because y= ou=E2=80=99re advertising a hostname and port combination. If they=E2=80= =99re separate alternatives, they can have separate ports; that=E2=80=99s f= ine. TCP and UDP are completely independent spaces, but technically the sa= me advice/requirement would apply to whichever port space an alternative ha= ppens to be in.

It=E2=80=99s basically saying that you can and perhaps should randomize you= r port, but the granularity of that randomization can=E2=80=99t be per-inst= ance.

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Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Why MUST a server use the same port for H= TTP/QUIC? (#929)


Ok, I can buy into the justification to keep it in the HTTP mapping documen= t. I think the section could be tightened up a bit; there seems some fuzzin= ess between advertising servers and providing servers. It's not a burni= ng issue and I could prepare some text to improve things (as I see it).

I think this general topic is exacerbated by the implicit dependence on TCP= as a fallback, I don't see any text in core documents that clearly sta= te that.

I welcome guidance and would highlight that, with my naive QUIC-enabled ser= ver deployment hat on, it isn't immediately clear how I should design m= y Alt-Svc advertisement strategy to be compliant. Or what the failure condi= tions are if I fail to comply.

Does the case you describe uniquely apply to UDP ports or to TCP too? Is it= acceptable to share the number but only across TCP/UDP (I'd say yes be= cause they are distinct spaces)?

That you're allowed to pick ports arbitrarily, but you can't effect= ively expose different ports from multiple endpoints for the same hostname.

I'm not sure I see why this is a problem only for HTTP/QUIC, yet I have= not seen similar requirements being expressed for other Alt-Svc advertisem= ents.

To replay what I think you're saying, in example form:
Origin

Alternative

Prohibited

Comment

https://example.com:443

h2=3D":443"

No

Conventional h2 case, alternative has same hostname and same port

https://example.com:443

h2=3D":12345"

Yes?

Conventional h2 case, alternative has same hostname and different port

https://example.com:443

h2=3D"foo.example.com:443"

No

Conventional h2 case, alternative has different hostname and same port

https://example.com:443

h2=3D"foo.example.com:1234"

No

Conventional h2 case, alternative has different hostname and different port

https://example.com:443

h2=3D"foo.example.com:12345", h2=3D"foo.example.com:12346&qu= ot;

Yes?

Two h2 alternatives that share the same hostname but different ports.

https://example.com:443

hq=3D":443"

No

Simple hq case, alternative has same hostname and same port number but vary= by TCP/UDP

https://example.com:443

hq=3D":12345"

No

Simple hq case, alternative has same hostname and different port, permitted= by TCP/UDP

https://example.com:433

hq=3D"foo.example.com:443"

No

Simple hq case, alternative has different hostname and same port number, pe= rmitted by TCP/UDP and different host

https://example.com:433

hq=3D"foo.example.com:12345"

No

Simple hq case, alternative has different hostname and different port, perm= itted by TCP/UDP and different host

https://example.com:443

hq=3D"foo.example.com:12345", hq=3D"foo.example.com:12346&qu= ot;

Yes

Two hq alternatives that share the same hostname but different port on UDP

https://example.com:12345 (a hq endpoint)

hq=3D":12346"

Yes

A hq origin is advertising its own hostname with a different port

https://example.com:12345 (a hq endpoint talking quic version 0xff00000C)

hq=3D":12346"; quic=3DD

Yes

A hq origin talking version C is advertising its own hostname with a differ= ent port and the different version D


I'm tired so may be completely misunderstanding things.

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Just be curios, not attempting to shoot anything down, but some things t= o consider:

  • How does Ian's proposal deal with connection migration?
  • And is there any issues with 0-RTT and ekstra roundtrips?
  • How does client update to server CID work with short packet headers whe= n CID is not present in the header (normally multiple connections per sourc= e port would have a CID present, but still).

Presumably a new server CID is to move connection routing to a new serve= r endpoint and 0-RTT ought to already hit the desired endpoint in first go,= or it isn't 0-RTT, so is server changed CID a thing for 0-RTT?

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= ----==_mimepart_5a0bfc706a76c_1d6b3fad99af6f281531449-- From nobody Wed Nov 15 00:37:48 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A7B8129566 for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2017 00:37:47 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.181 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.181 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-2.8, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0lA90Yi1hQbo for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2017 00:37:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from o6.sgmail.github.com (o6.sgmail.github.com [192.254.113.101]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A77B01294C7 for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2017 00:37:45 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=i26Qgdg1vL/V9n0tt50Wgv83hzQ=; b=W54/RIpliMobOglJ bzQrkTrZWkkz4AGFlGC9QY4JUp263Jb+df9QFXE0X+510Sqe0wumf8yVtWp4f76p Is603tCl75TdME38G+g/xtOpyYaE0MJNDjAyW/d6kQaAmHEJQOQfEugWXX1gOnHD rosoIa+V1eajV3iB9FdIuJbL0ks= Received: by filter0568p1mdw1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0568p1mdw1-28358-5A0BFCC5-4 2017-11-15 08:37:25.034462232 +0000 UTC Received: from github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net [192.30.253.16]) by ismtpd0008p1iad1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id F6E8FvD4QUWV8ndDIakl8g for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2017 08:37:25.023 +0000 (UTC) Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2017 08:37:25 +0000 (UTC) From: Lucas Pardue Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Why MUST a server use the same port for HTTP/QUIC? (#929) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5a0bfcc4dfc3b_54353fefe6076f281251461"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: LPardue X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org tracking: X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak34D+uLPy4xycb5OJnarsJ/ZL7c4JcNL1X2m8 eG3i9evvkO/8bu+mJDy6tN8x8IZVZA8j5QDq1Gag/mlakokuyhpTYWvmOI5yik7wrR1tOP3N266eej HeAf1Geb2pOmQnY//6lUCvnWjaqnTr73wh/I56PZ7zggCy7/b7kJnwxDfzmhIhZRtum9dq+KUEOPsW Y= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2017 08:37:47 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5a0bfcc4dfc3b_54353fefe6076f281251461 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I need to think some more on this as things still seem a bit unclear. The test points I've given are analogous to some cases we've tried out. There, the hostnames all resolve to the same set IP addresses - with a single server process listening on different ports and configured with different ghosts. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/929#issuecomment-344522515 ----==_mimepart_5a0bfcc4dfc3b_54353fefe6076f281251461 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I need to think some more on this as things still seem a bit unclear.

The test points I've given are analogous to some cases we've tried out. = There, the hostnames all resolve to the same set IP addresses - with a sing= le server process listening on different ports and configured with differen= t ghosts.

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= ----==_mimepart_5a0bfcc4dfc3b_54353fefe6076f281251461-- From nobody Wed Nov 15 00:43:21 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 831931279EB for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2017 00:43:19 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.615 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.615 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5xe72zd1QRpk for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2017 00:43:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from o7.sgmail.github.com (o7.sgmail.github.com [167.89.101.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2F86F1200C1 for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2017 00:43:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=fpjuGqFvJceN/897WszfdpKwQXo=; b=W4irV3xW8p65c/oZ BRpy9iimM1QJmXvhRr//VSjxO4gPmnCcMBm7MMrsdPdBMhGiLHq/MShvjdZ3dTbx 7rNTt+5lQi2rr0n/m9hYgpWXNDj3CnYlSglzxqu5azDFrDdcsxaqbz/0aN6yHtkQ VFjhRM0dNE/H4s0bQbS0QQXOHLk= Received: by filter1228p1mdw1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter1228p1mdw1-28593-5A0BFE25-14 2017-11-15 08:43:17.241256371 +0000 UTC Received: from github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net [192.30.253.16]) by ismtpd0002p1iad1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id OWghcQHWQHi7xe4Ex5E19A for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2017 08:43:17.173 +0000 (UTC) Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2017 08:43:17 +0000 (UTC) From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Multiple connections on the same port (#714) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5a0bfe2510c3c_71563fe4c3be4f28137146f"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org tracking: X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak0f8NH/SpQrJSUGv3R0DCStBms6LK4tuVf7v3 hCqmPd/Hx9mDRcdRXcr5rezk32EkftfN8U9Er69dByc55Eg/Qz7VyS/ONRSP/DiKLMUzueVISJ1AkQ rVq5y3hsj/O35VKFVBPVwzZJzstxF1OI2QyYxbF5W8zXycqwv7dlcNdw3rgwvdgBignFIZpDG+CnPh E= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2017 08:43:19 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5a0bfe2510c3c_71563fe4c3be4f28137146f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My proposal is only aimed at the handshake, so I don't think it should effect connection migration. This shouldn't cost any extra round trips, since the TLS messages already include transport params and/or extensions. For short headers, we're talking post-handshake, in which case I think the NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame is the right way to go. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/714#issuecomment-344523912 ----==_mimepart_5a0bfe2510c3c_71563fe4c3be4f28137146f Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

My proposal is only aimed at the handshake, so I don't think it should e= ffect connection migration.

This shouldn't cost any extra round trips, since the TLS messages alread= y include transport params and/or extensions.

For short headers, we're talking post-handshake, in which case I think t= he NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame is the right way to go.

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----==_mimepart_5a0c031bb9e44_1d493fad99af6f2816485c7-- From nobody Wed Nov 15 11:51:51 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 388171200C1 for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2017 11:51:49 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.018 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.018 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id v6qWB1w-h_GB for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2017 11:51:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from o3.sgmail.github.com (o3.sgmail.github.com [192.254.112.98]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 371DC12704A for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2017 11:51:47 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=i4DV8lB48LmZjIETLc/D2jBmlK0=; b=VyPF3qyCO16/0ygR c5HEbasbYEdIDk2I2FSI6ZFqrEP40rVG/Zz3nGIQRbKYJVykWkIUUek6huKLv8RX aaJi9NTfi8fGGiOrc1aoE/mUD75pMaDChYwJhuf6oQYXBjS7+PzNgJqZLDihSNfm fskFf3cTXWBwReZnv/g68zN4O7o= Received: by filter0221p1iad2.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0221p1iad2-16138-5A0C9AD1-17 2017-11-15 19:51:45.966206457 +0000 UTC Received: from github-smtp2b-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (github-smtp2b-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net [192.30.253.17]) by ismtpd0001p1iad1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id ksK8-OZ1QV-NDvGGnt8Lng for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2017 19:51:45.854 +0000 (UTC) Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2017 19:51:46 +0000 (UTC) From: Subodh Iyengar Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Dealing with unknown QUIC frames in a packet (#933) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5a0c9ad1bb198_3c493f898c808f2c126410"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: siyengar X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org tracking: X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak0f5uC4O6q7Puy6y4qZASg+KPqvd01CqdRCRs lcMWfc8ppoOgngC/rxy/W68TOKDNFrVVKIsn8RZTqQpeUCZfYm0of8WCyaeaGO89AInpIPcf4feQNS WEdv9N7E7EbBQ0xklvrOiUjBgReU0Gvbvh6cBWBBmF2p3HGIy8+pVWgwBw3Y1garmc30odSuh1kCx6 k= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2017 19:51:49 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5a0c9ad1bb198_3c493f898c808f2c126410 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit QUIC frames are peculiar because peers who do not understand a QUIC frame, probably due to a custom frame being used, have to terminate the connection because they will not be able to process any frames in a packet after a frame they do not understand. So a new version needs to be added for each new custom frame. We have a huge version number space but this is a bit annoying to manage and creates a bunch of conditionals in the code to deal with different clients. There are many ways to probably solve this, including a special generic frame type that someone proposed (can't find the issue). Another way to potentially solve this is to have a common length field for all frames. With draft-08 varints, the maximum size of a length field ever needed is 2 bytes (for a 1280 byte MTU). The most common quic frame types (acks and stream frames) have length fields of their own, and so it is only the uncommon ones like RSTs and window updates that this would add some overhead to. This might make it easier to parse frames and also make it so that implementations can skip frames they do not understand. This is clearly only for non critical frame types, new frame types which are critical for communication should probably have some other negotiation mechanism which is frame specific. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/933 ----==_mimepart_5a0c9ad1bb198_3c493f898c808f2c126410 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

QUIC frames are peculiar because peers who do not understand a QUIC frame, probably due to a custom frame being used, have to terminate the connection because they will not be able to process any frames in a packet after a frame they do not understand. So a new version needs to be added for each new custom frame. We have a huge version number space but this is a bit annoying to manage and creates a bunch of conditionals in the code to deal with different clients.

There are many ways to probably solve this, including a special generic frame type that someone proposed (can't find the issue). Another way to potentially solve this is to have a common length field for all frames. With draft-08 varints, the maximum size of a length field ever needed is 2 bytes (for a 1280 byte MTU). The most common quic frame types (acks and stream frames) have length fields of their own, and so it is only the uncommon ones like RSTs and window updates that this would add some overhead to.

This might make it easier to parse frames and also make it so that implementations can skip frames they do not understand. This is clearly only for non critical frame types, new frame types which are critical for communication should probably have some other negotiation mechanism which is frame specific.

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If we're in the early retransmit mode, a loss_time is set. If the timer is not yet fired, however we send a packet when the timer is armed, the largest_sent_packet changes. When the timer does fire before this new packet is acked, largest_sent_packet != largest_acked_packet, so delay_until_lost == infinite and none of the packets will be declared lost, however we would instead set a TLP alarm.

Is this intentional? Seems a bit weird.

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While implementing loss recovery from the draft, found some more weird behavior. When we get ACK for 2 packets sent after RTO, and RTO is verified, it seems like the psuedo code suggests that we use the reordering threshold again, however if we don't find a lost packet we would set the early retransmission timer again. This seems a bit weird that we would need to use the early retransmit timer after the RTO is verified and we could remove all the unacked packets < largest_sent_before_rto instead. Is this behavior intentional?

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----==_mimepart_5a0d027ead144_1b56b3f847b276f3457838c-- From nobody Wed Nov 15 22:00:52 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADC42129511 for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2017 22:00:50 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.616 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.616 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hILVkGjoBQaX for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2017 22:00:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from o4.sgmail.github.com (o4.sgmail.github.com [192.254.112.99]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DA4E8129544 for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2017 22:00:48 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=rHdeeAVSgVHRFT7UgSumVhdxl18=; b=n+LMHJk7KpLmQMGC A5c72/wpg2c/Olby79l0X3lshqIgLW46br4S7JAdKsJJL8QOMI9eOaykWN8Nniy1 lMMi2P/wGpnitkbE1uFeiRzy27ky6k9DtQI9kdC+hTgNZsebYc4kOHKqCLW0zOl2 vo2vcmWXLBJHFHSrhWR4CrtsPfM= Received: by filter0165p1iad2.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0165p1iad2-13055-5A0D2990-1 2017-11-16 06:00:48.092362642 +0000 UTC Received: from github-smtp2b-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (github-smtp2b-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net [192.30.253.17]) by ismtpd0008p1iad1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id H4qT-FW4Qbivgx8UWDp8Fw for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2017 06:00:47.953 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2017 06:00:48 +0000 (UTC) From: pravb Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] No way to communicate a change in ack delay (#912) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5a0d298fd52e0_34253fdc46254f383643c8"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: pravb X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org tracking: X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak2XA5/T/8iMVGistfgnonM6qTtkBIhJ02Fodw +nfaHZctGlr/OR1iXiM4WmWfvmfJKp0fNyv+MU8kpktHzs/9rJCLkOG9LmP2AqJo8hnlTxCufto37R U2F5IQZhbpPC++lkZ5CJdRWHX7IxUdc9rs0bZKm3vzzc1ci9+QcEa1nRPw== Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2017 06:00:51 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5a0d298fd52e0_34253fdc46254f383643c8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yes this is a deficiency in TCP and makes TLP less effective in cases where there is a single tail packet outstanding. I would request that we at least communicate the max ACK delay value in transport parameters. I would think communicating any changing values over time is optional and I would be fine with that not being included in V1. I also think it is likely that most implementations will simply pick a constant value for ACK delay rather than a dynamically tuned one. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/912#issuecomment-344824527 ----==_mimepart_5a0d298fd52e0_34253fdc46254f383643c8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Yes this is a deficiency in TCP and makes TLP less effective in cases wh= ere there is a single tail packet outstanding. I would request that we at l= east communicate the max ACK delay value in transport parameters. I would t= hink communicating any changing values over time is optional and I would be= fine with that not being included in V1. I also think it is likely that mo= st implementations will simply pick a constant value for ACK delay rather t= han a dynamically tuned one.

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I don't want to conflate this with another related issue but communicati= ng the maximum stretch ACking value back to sender can also be useful to im= plement ACK clocked congestion control like Reno. Today TCP implementations= are using different thresholds for ABC and in many cases are sub-optimally= growing the cwnd.

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= ----==_mimepart_5a0d2a49b21a3_380a3f9a9f898f2c61769-- From nobody Wed Nov 15 22:12:50 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB9D3129511 for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2017 22:12:39 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.402 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.402 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fRR4w5zO9CsW for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2017 22:12:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from o10.sgmail.github.com (o10.sgmail.github.com [167.89.101.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 50C071294D8 for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2017 22:12:38 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=ocjpM8XeqkLNmeObxtTy1TYk3X4=; b=VBjjrXyq1Wsn23Z6 A9R7exe8jw8i2tkfkX1U6jbLb4pBrWhcXUB9LLMLbcYfwhtZpRYXA55EiDMTVc0p /10MfCklFhVPPD6UVjFsHuupTo/9aw4/HK0hh5AbZCzwvKdtTfCFJ0XtgQeNvCLE 4K38Dilw8zBE0+h3D6lR6Z0i1Lw= Received: by filter0079p1iad2.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0079p1iad2-25048-5A0D2C55-6 2017-11-16 06:12:37.37984298 +0000 UTC Received: from github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net [192.30.253.16]) by ismtpd0010p1iad1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id m8ht6BfGQnO5X-D2ij2gNQ for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2017 06:12:37.267 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2017 06:12:37 +0000 (UTC) From: pravb Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] When/how often to send ACK frames (#230) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5a0d2c552aaf9_142693ffcde508f28475098"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: pravb X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org tracking: X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak1NxUPp2AntMxugm7Rfg37LVPnSJL0snXW4y5 qn2iQNVPGSXr2FTU1c9zIedwjLkweVffxP4cPf7no+VjdZ7gOo6uASKvNYhkmj9MESWlXeckDPldVj +zMhBKg292Pw+1MJ+q/vhrf3d7eeqsgGfQLBOT2BcoVbS2WnZMMvjSVdpQ== Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2017 06:12:40 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5a0d2c552aaf9_142693ffcde508f28475098 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Knowing the max stretch ACK does help the ABC computation on the sender for ACK clocked congestion control. It would be useful to document some recommended values for delayed ACK frequency and timeout to avoid the mess with TCP implementations with each one doing something different. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/230#issuecomment-344826259 ----==_mimepart_5a0d2c552aaf9_142693ffcde508f28475098 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Knowing the max stretch ACK does help the ABC computation on the sender = for ACK clocked congestion control. It would be useful to document some rec= ommended values for delayed ACK frequency and timeout to avoid the mess wit= h TCP implementations with each one doing something different.

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= ----==_mimepart_5a0d2c552aaf9_142693ffcde508f28475098-- From nobody Wed Nov 15 22:17:38 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19B301294D8 for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2017 22:17:37 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.402 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.402 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id a7FoprUAhTgA for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2017 22:17:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from o7.sgmail.github.com (o7.sgmail.github.com [167.89.101.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CE794126C19 for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2017 22:17:35 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=Q+lwEy0FXTR2IlW8vSLnO7HtDLM=; b=TzO4wsGs1guMbk7J qckFV/XfwvK29uEYydGjO61f0EMhJty1rHnHQw/zEdQs50haBNTpQW2G4MGz/opo ptWcjg/bkaULdHH45WikMMfrtBsMt7HtVx6ujmZceHq7W7VGaXWKZDbKcT4XzIw2 8WtzPA17x8p7wIiq1gmiXNGcK2A= Received: by filter0070p1iad2.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0070p1iad2-19936-5A0D2D7E-14 2017-11-16 06:17:34.669856091 +0000 UTC Received: from github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net [192.30.253.16]) by ismtpd0010p1iad1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id lHMjr6ZsRRGB6thV9pSGWA for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2017 06:17:34.502 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2017 06:17:35 +0000 (UTC) From: janaiyengar Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Remove initial packet number randomization (#850) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5a0d2d7e5fb99_38073f9a9f898f2c52823b"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: janaiyengar X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org tracking: X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak1nLC+hOiiCY81R2YpRKTz1jHTKy0GyHfvmaB ZmzA07deTiZHIjk8CBuTuui4ldIgf8loiZhnIaSXfLvRLwOcYEpdRSmQrDwX9XgkY0PuA9iWBGHAbw ncf74P1eQVwkZYRDUQk69jbqSxi+sTjQ86wP5wEVqMGxrRA1smkuEdQieTfpcAxQyR8D8ZbiQUA2EQ A= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2017 06:17:37 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5a0d2d7e5fb99_38073f9a9f898f2c52823b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On whether initial packet number should be 0 or 1, with the new packet number encoding, we end up needing only 62 bis for the packet number, which means you can use a signed int for representing it and < 0 as a sentinel value. I'll be ok with either 0 or 1 as the initial value. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/850#issuecomment-344826979 ----==_mimepart_5a0d2d7e5fb99_38073f9a9f898f2c52823b Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On whether initial packet number should be 0 or 1, with the new packet n= umber encoding, we end up needing only 62 bis for the packet number, which = means you can use a signed int for representing it and < 0 as a sentinel= value. I'll be ok with either 0 or 1 as the initial value.

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= ----==_mimepart_5a0d2d7e5fb99_38073f9a9f898f2c52823b-- From nobody Wed Nov 15 22:22:48 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 465D8129504 for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2017 22:22:47 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.616 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.616 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 04Kh91MaZQH2 for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2017 22:22:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from o9.sgmail.github.com (o9.sgmail.github.com [167.89.101.2]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C1B62126C19 for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2017 22:22:45 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=61jH5GiwZaFsxf1/PsQa5iSDDSI=; b=AuXXYD8U1jHf1mGE WOqYbyZsXJlhQz1F0+5pNgZMx7DwL/VKuewDKI9WDLHSvCU5rAOKzSuX2SsMppa+ tcQ4ImuyMtDtqr7poqxK7NlbOWtKNuG4oNYIYInN6KJ8KdNyUgPMKBBJS2mDrpKW JAJLf1Qys5fiII+MObrAi+TO040= Received: by filter0152p1iad2.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0152p1iad2-26687-5A0D2EB5-2 2017-11-16 06:22:45.014507925 +0000 UTC Received: from github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net [192.30.253.16]) by ismtpd0001p1iad2.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id 8BTnLYCoSXOMNukyIcVtqw for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2017 06:22:44.940 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2017 06:22:45 +0000 (UTC) From: pravb Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] MSS and MTU (#592) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5a0d2eb4e28e3_4b1f3fca90810f34319285"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: pravb X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org tracking: X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak29IE4WX6vZlxVokhJnc72xSST7ULIRXH5c90 VncEpTvFpOQGwcADm2OSZJAnDJ7hzspos+LPjkk3OcQmOfq5ZFOXOVsJh1YMPUSBT+g5wHpACWc2A+ BNazQ0JnqvK7u1j4Je4O8brUmMzMpswCeINthnrUlu3UnoXcvy8R47W1/g== Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2017 06:22:47 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5a0d2eb4e28e3_4b1f3fca90810f34319285 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think kInitialWindow and kMinimumWindow need to refer to actual MSS rather than a constant kDefaultMss. For implementations that use the minimum value and do not do PMTU discovery they should use kDefaultMss 1232 or 1252. For implementations that do PMTU discovery the kDefaultMss will reflect the actual MSS for the path which could be as high as 9k - 40 when jumbo frames are configured in a DC network but typically would be similar to TCP i.e. 1460. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/592#issuecomment-344827811 ----==_mimepart_5a0d2eb4e28e3_4b1f3fca90810f34319285 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I think kInitialWindow and kMinimumWindow need to refer to actual MSS ra= ther than a constant kDefaultMss. For implementations that use the minimum = value and do not do PMTU discovery they should use kDefaultMss 1232 or 1252= . For implementations that do PMTU discovery the kDefaultMss will reflect t= he actual MSS for the path which could be as high as 9k - 40 when jumbo fra= mes are configured in a DC network but typically would be similar to TCP i.= e. 1460.

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With the new packet number encoding, we end up needing only 62 bis for t= he packet number, which means you can use a signed int for representing it = and < 0 as a sentinel value. I'll be ok with either 0 or 1 as the initia= l value.

Can we agree on something=C2=A0here and wrap this issue up? I'll be happ= y whichever way we go, but let's choose one and move on.

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= ----==_mimepart_5a0d2ed950d2e_500b3f880f92cf304644fe-- From nobody Wed Nov 15 22:25:01 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92BB51294D8 for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2017 22:25:00 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.396 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.396 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-2.8, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id prJKYA4Ecg5y for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2017 22:24:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from o5.sgmail.github.com (o5.sgmail.github.com [192.254.113.10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BC466129478 for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2017 22:24:58 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=ipU6hSNuIjqYfgxVKkv2ubZvufM=; b=cqnxRm6oMwPOEbgG 9RRspaqvuUZ8xZLE/pb6ti2tcRef+ET+Jp4ioKPC0mvdCZB0zr/gwbexuRNVl938 Hcond2ItVMf9nv/s4fPsS+bsFtUGc6B1s5eEbVz9mY98RChEKXVQ85Pf0gZ52AZ0 mS7u6SW9gvrHEkzDK4OwIPaRgVA= Received: by filter0054p1iad2.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0054p1iad2-15244-5A0D2F39-1F 2017-11-16 06:24:58.04869591 +0000 UTC Received: from github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net [192.30.253.16]) by ismtpd0007p1iad1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id cIgJBia0TSattppl8ow6Iw for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2017 06:24:57.883 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2017 06:24:58 +0000 (UTC) From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Remove initial packet number randomization (#850) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5a0d2f39c43a6_41473f9b93f62f34626875"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org tracking: X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak0zEm/Uka3I8dWtlOMOnIbSwz6OHDuQGfEUfU oulLZrF2lgF7nkp2Hv8kD/pS7IRnLKCrp8HHZw8sYu82oeSyMqn3PqtGjDnlZxSViSZoDtPApeik+x VgfLLRrC6mJ3z7mGhlZB4Cx/r3vVbieInRQMaLsVEaSODPIWvdBUz/9/ZTNKXgEakL3/ExSpMMa4w1 8= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2017 06:25:00 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5a0d2f39c43a6_41473f9b93f62f34626875 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Q on this. Should we allow using other initial packet numbers to make sure middleboxes don't assume all handshake packets are <20 or some magic number? Admittedly, the type byte is a lot more useful than packet number to identify handshake packets, but it's worth considering. Besides that, I'm greatly in favor of this and would like it to land ASAP. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/850#issuecomment-344828156 ----==_mimepart_5a0d2f39c43a6_41473f9b93f62f34626875 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Q on this. Should we allow using other initial packet numbers to make s= ure middleboxes don't assume all handshake packets are <20 or some magic= number?

Admittedly, the type byte is a lot more useful than packet number to ide= ntify handshake packets, but it's worth considering.

Besides that, I'm greatly in favor of this and would like it to land ASA= P.

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To be clear: Given we can have a < 0 sentinel value, I'm fine with 0 as the initial number.

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Let's explicitly disallow wraparound then with the recognition that we t= hen put a limit on the amount of data a QUIC connection can transfer wherea= s there is no such limit in TCP. I think if a received packet causes a chan= ge in the connection state machine then we don't need a Boolean or stats co= unter to detect this and we do not need any sentinel values. Also I can't t= hink of any other use cases for sentinel values so if anyone else has any i= deas please speak out soon.

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Thinking about this a bit more and chatting with @ianswett, not randomizing will= risk ossification of the initial packet number. I'm wondering if it's val= uable to randomize anyways, just to avoid issues, and in the interest of ma= king more fields unpredictable. Thoughts?

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Ya it was a bit fuzzy on whether this was a bug in the draft, so I raised this as an issue.

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Section 3.6 in transport says that the connection ID survives connection= migration.

Is this an old left-over or am I missing something?

Aside from the initial server CID change, the connection ID has a tracea= ble history of changes via the NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame and the initial chan= ge would also be traceable with #714 in effect, but a single connection ID would currently be ti= ed to a 5-tuple, making paragraph 3.6 somewhat confusing to me:

3.6. Connection Migration and Resilience to NAT Rebinding
QUIC connections are identified by a Connection ID, a 64-bit unsigned numbe= r randomly generated by the server. QUIC=E2=80=99s consistent connection ID= allows connections to survive changes to the client=E2=80=99s IP and port,= such as those caused by NAT rebindings or by the client changing network c= onnectivity to a new address. QUIC provides automatic cryptographic verific= ation of a rebound lient, since the client continues to use the same sessio= n key for encrypting and decrypting packets. The consistent connection ID c= an be used to allow migration of the connection to a new server IP address = as well, since the Connection ID remains consistent across changes in the c= lient=E2=80=99s and the server=E2=80=99s network addresses.

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In the context of connection migration I just sent a mail to the QUIC WG= list suggesting to avoid gaps such that the packer numbers cannot effectiv= ely be exhausted. One option is to encode/encrypt packet numbers, the other= was to reset packet numbers during migration. Encoding would deal with oss= ification issues. Randomizing early would work against keeping the packet n= umber space large, though not as much as for migrations since it is a one o= ff.

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= ----==_mimepart_5a0d474eb8072_1425b3ffcde508f281435159-- From nobody Thu Nov 16 00:19:21 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45EC6129465 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2017 00:19:21 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.402 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.402 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4dKOyZtQFixf for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2017 00:19:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from o4.sgmail.github.com (o4.sgmail.github.com [192.254.112.99]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CFEEE12956D for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2017 00:19:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=H/aNfDRP8Ewr8JSA2taY7OBZju0=; b=t78Kx9O5XxSG+KMO o2UXEcQa7IdBqIbgy5TaA6Uy8cXErz3yGKug7mkTQh9UP/7j5tue6sJB50VNWhNA AaYd4tr1W0gdf5+nI3akvMolBeN/yXRFcW/K3e/UMUbt22/aNAAYcDKyuuc+wIaM zaYk+m/P+dardpCLq4uQO+zEiew= Received: by filter0558p1iad2.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0558p1iad2-19182-5A0D4A06-6 2017-11-16 08:19:18.260920733 +0000 UTC Received: from github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net [192.30.253.16]) by ismtpd0004p1iad2.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id _RdDgAMrRL6tIZGTmeyYJA for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2017 08:19:18.183 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2017 08:19:18 +0000 (UTC) From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] don't allow 0 as a packet number (#832) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5a0d4a0618627_672f3ff691baaf2883446c"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org tracking: X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak1BYG7ld23x/e3FHAxCnzGUrPvP0r/afP3LZp 8e1s//+HNpkYdBYX0pppGkJtnaRyYuYCS2rgL8b83SpsdWHn8l9jaVbahXQOHTd1f5iYfvN85ppodT xQtpALWxEcVgl3P2wrxyri0R9QzwIsm4GVBsrsd+lPnf4WYr78jRiAOk1cCRgP3PNMhB5jckcQvdQm 4= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2017 08:19:21 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5a0d4a0618627_672f3ff691baaf2883446c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The ossification question is why - I think - we added the randomization in the first place. We should pick something. Happy to prohibit wrapping as @pravb requests. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/832#issuecomment-344848231 ----==_mimepart_5a0d4a0618627_672f3ff691baaf2883446c Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

The ossification question is why - I think - we added the randomization in the first place. We should pick something.

Happy to prohibit wrapping as @pravb requests.

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There's NAT rebinding, in which case the client's traffic suddenly starts arriving at the server from a new port (and possibly a new IP), and the Connection ID doesn't change because the client doesn't know it happened. Then there's intentional migration by the client, in which it knowingly moves to a totally different network. In that instance, the client can choose to change the Connection ID. The server should be largely indifferent, in that it recognizes both Connection IDs as belonging to this session. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/936#issuecomment-344853291 ----==_mimepart_5a0d4f4630d3a_38303f9a9f898f2c146864a Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

No, there are two different cases. There's NAT rebinding, in which case= the client's traffic suddenly starts arriving at the server from a new por= t (and possibly a new IP), and the Connection ID doesn't change because the= client doesn't know it happened. Then there's intentional migration by th= e client, in which it knowingly moves to a totally different network. In t= hat instance, the client can choose to change the Connection ID.

The server should be largely indifferent, in that it recognizes both Con= nection IDs as belonging to this session.

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Fixes #128.

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Some observation of my machine shows that I'm spending twelve seconds checking for trailing whitespace and long lines. This updates the `make lint` recipe to cache the hashes per branch of files that have successfully been linted and not re-lint them unless they've been modified. On my machine, lint goes from 12 seconds to 0.75 seconds. You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/938 -- Commit Summary -- * Make lint faster -- File Changes -- M .gitignore (1) M Makefile (39) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/938.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/938.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/938 ----==_mimepart_5a0d66eb39ede_69183fd141a50f30180883 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Ian and I were remarking that makes and commits have gotten very slow lately. Some observation of my machine shows that I'm spending twelve seconds checking for trailing whitespace and long lines.

This updates the make lint recipe to cache the hashes per branch of files that have successfully been linted and not re-lint them unless they've been modified. On my machine, lint goes from 12 seconds to 0.75 seconds.

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Fixes Issue #926

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@MikeBishop requested changes on this pull request.

One thing to fix; otherwise looks good.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -395,17 +395,17 @@ Connection ID:
 : Octets 1 through 8 contain the connection ID. {{connection-id}} describes the
   use of this field in more detail.
 
-Packet Number:
-
-: Octets 9 to 12 contain the packet number.  {{packet-numbers}} describes the
-  use of packet numbers.
-
 Version:
 
 : Octets 13 to 16 contain the selected protocol version.  This field indicates

You'll need to renumber the octets, too.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -395,17 +395,17 @@ Connection ID:
 : Octets 1 through 8 contain the connection ID. {{connection-id}} describes the
   use of this field in more detail.
 
-Packet Number:
-
-: Octets 9 to 12 contain the packet number.  {{packet-numbers}} describes the
-  use of packet numbers.
-
 Version:
 
 : Octets 13 to 16 contain the selected protocol version.  This field indicates

Thanks Mike, fixed

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As @LPardu= e notes, the draft currently omits any language about connection reuse.= We'll need text for that. As a first pass, note that there is no way to = directly address an HTTP/QUIC endpoint by URI/URL. So an HTTP/QUIC endpoin= t is somewhat analogous to an HTTP/2 endpoint for an origin which doesn=E2= =80=99t appear in the DNS record.

With that as our starting point, here are some thoughts:

  • The only reason you=E2=80=99re speaking HTTP/QUIC for example.com in th= e first place is because you have an Alt-Svc record for example.com. If yo= u have Alt-Svc records for other origins that happen to share the same cert= ificate pointing to the same host:port, this should be coalesced.
    • It seems a pity that you would need to speak individually to each origi= n for this. Coincidentally, Ben Schwartz and I were having a conversation = about reviving Alt-Svc records in DNS=E2=80=A6.
  • In the absence of Alt-Svc records, draft-ietf-httpbis-origin-frame perm= its coalescing in HTTP/2 based on the combination of the server=E2=80=99s p= ossession of the correct certificate and assertion that it wants the traffi= c. Like #371, there = would need to be a very short draft that defines the ORIGIN frame for HTTP/= QUIC as Exceptionally Similar=E2=84=A2 to the one in draft-ietf-httpbis-ori= gin-frame.

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You can make it do the same for new branches too, but it requires a git = post-checkout hook, which is a local configuration (unless we = get the i-d-template to bring the hook along like it does the pre-com= mit hook). Here's the hook script:

#!/bin/bash

new_lintcache=3D".lintcache/`git rev-parse --abbrev-ref HEAD`";

if [ ! -d "$new_lintcache" ]; then
    for branch in `git branch --points-at $2`; do
        old_lintcache=3D".lintcache/$branch";
        if [ "$old_lintcache" !=3D "$new_lintcache" ] && [ -d "$old=
_lintcache" ]; then
            cp -r $old_lintcache $new_lintcache;
            break;
        fi
    done
fi

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@martinthomson requested changes on this pull request.

I think that there is a simpler design.

Have lint depend on .lintcache/filename and generate that file as a result of linting filename. Let make do all the heavy lifting.

The downside of that approach is that make will stop after the first error. We can fix that on CI at least by using make -k on an explicit linting step.

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(sorry, nothing useful to offer at the end of a long IETF week, but I really want to rename this "Make lint fast again").

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----==_mimepart_5a0e33d212ffd_25d03ff89e470f2811129-- From nobody Thu Nov 16 17:01:09 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBA6C126CD8 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2017 17:01:07 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.253 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.253 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-2.8, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NGMZ6ZpAbEdI for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2017 17:01:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from o6.sgmail.github.com (o6.sgmail.github.com [192.254.113.101]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 06871126D0C for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2017 17:01:04 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=XKwvHPgUUJT3SFlWfFNtDSJvoyk=; b=sC+4pY0n3xiNIMAG YKOmqXPokn49CV/baTlBMO2++EX12EeVxVAYXY6kr/JSdT3h5+NA2Cl6BR9G5jXn hDGDWaMnU+6Z8RccRPMpMLRl+xeSaaeOVkVlATQMG4+Ap/u68cChtsf9utR9WREk ZMMWGUeLaIpFti5nWkeKkki2FXw= Received: by filter0447p1iad2.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0447p1iad2-330-5A0E34CE-10 2017-11-17 01:01:02.226684365 +0000 UTC Received: from github-smtp2b-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (github-smtp2b-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net [192.30.253.17]) by ismtpd0006p1iad2.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id 3en3MyWeTz-p6lDR-YPtbA for ; Fri, 17 Nov 2017 01:01:02.219 +0000 (UTC) Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2017 01:01:02 +0000 (UTC) From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Make lint fast again (#938) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5a0e34ce1002a_111af3fada26c2f341229eb"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org tracking: X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak25At2co1Z/37nqtq5xaNYNruzRR/6u39DC+8 B5pJOJYxyoq8NuVKukqJ1o4l+/d0hRc+H7Uj8ZRVnQlMfgtsGzLcfjQ83pVqcFoG8PnOMPfrThRL2M 1jj58rfIoZlmsqEFWhg/+YDYDaEyBQF2M8x0cketRPGJDlp5WPSHEsT8LuK4bnDTl/Tw9pAKFClOLz E= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2017 01:01:08 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5a0e34ce1002a_111af3fada26c2f341229eb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit There you go, @janaiyengar. ;-) -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/938#issuecomment-345112989 ----==_mimepart_5a0e34ce1002a_111af3fada26c2f341229eb Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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----==_mimepart_5a0e34ce1002a_111af3fada26c2f341229eb-- From nobody Thu Nov 16 17:01:25 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C91A126D0C for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2017 17:01:24 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.615 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.615 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FfgIFn0_sWSY for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2017 17:01:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from o7.sgmail.github.com (o7.sgmail.github.com [167.89.101.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A915F126CD8 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2017 17:01:22 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=O/l2wCYOW1TOur0pUUUTSPw50wI=; b=xL9tYEEhY5DEo5qq OW0zrV1YfR1ob297Ll6NG72oHxKASbuzCswXsiN2NdeLkO05XXrh0G2HsWOC83nZ xVCaTSY5g3YNafR1jiY1FvcErr+bNFWtUoFmM1Qzmj2N7HxYLF7p1dYvIXjRQL5c wPRj0mhrSZXUerTvDQHTN3G4WrE= Received: by filter0163p1iad2.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0163p1iad2-2076-5A0E34AF-25 2017-11-17 01:00:31.588190858 +0000 UTC Received: from github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net [192.30.253.16]) by ismtpd0010p1iad1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id I3Yv9ol6RJW_sifcI4SAWg for ; Fri, 17 Nov 2017 01:00:31.415 +0000 (UTC) Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2017 01:00:31 +0000 (UTC) From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Make lint faster (#938) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5a0e34af4c631_25e73ff89e470f28132086"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org tracking: X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak3DFlWvsDkDxGl+UQGjOZ1wAv5p0TG/Mf5mXy eA5VH3UF9S43Y6QHH7x9iZ4+vrJrt6e3yg1UI0U9JXA2H8drliHSkCdBKEFaFepxaNAaBtLrYPEROS ZTQFmTyLKNIvjBQ/Jzkv68lAwkgYErIukj8Ih8jN/tK0n4X0LEipisFGpP8cANO+tO0Ada8eQC71M/ U= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2017 01:01:24 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5a0e34af4c631_25e73ff89e470f28132086 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You're right, that's a better design. Also, I can fold the branch migration into that -- check at lint time whether I can steal a lint file from another branch rather than actually running the lint commands. I'll rearchitect that later. We should also perhaps update the Circle config to cache .lintcache as well. Does that mean I need to make the directory controllable by an env variable? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/938#issuecomment-345112891 ----==_mimepart_5a0e34af4c631_25e73ff89e470f28132086 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

You're right, that's a better design. Also, I can fold the branch migra= tion into that -- check at lint time whether I can steal a lint file from a= nother branch rather than actually running the lint commands.

I'll rearchitect that later. We should also perhaps update the Circle c= onfig to cache .lintcache as well. Does that mean I need to make the direc= tory controllable by an env variable?

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In TLS 1.3, servers have to opt-in to early data by sending "max_early_data". We need to clarify whether this is required in QUIC. I believe @martinthomson 's view is "no" but we need to decide one way or the other.

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Caching .lintcache won't work because the code is checked out from scratch every time, so modification times are updated. Paying the price on CI isn't that bad for the moment.

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We should be clear about this, but the intent is to use the connection-level flow control window advertised in the transport parameters that are attached to the session ticket.

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Oh, we also agreed that max_early_data was needed to signal that the server is willing to accept 0-RTT. We probably need to say that too.

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So you would say max_early_data = what?

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Anything non-zero would work. Maybe 1.

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----==_mimepart_5a0e4769d198c_27163ffbbdd5af2c18524-- From nobody Thu Nov 16 18:25:30 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BC1E126BF0 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2017 18:25:29 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.253 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.253 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-2.8, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ephDQ5EDtq5E for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2017 18:25:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from o5.sgmail.github.com (o5.sgmail.github.com [192.254.113.10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 78D1112008A for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2017 18:25:27 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=HhQZedbK5+hOqhHf+faYoeZ7xJk=; b=nM5JDMEdx7AJFKXr 9zhhQWHbOoXUCM20UHEvIEGcF81IiMVKtyNps9W7IHqWlt1ovNd+rqJBCKdstDRA 1t6JZwHr36T9ojQpvO9OdpYGZ9VLsMMGyAIZIki9IalNiECQu22wzfLxVg1RCR8c hG/HUQyNdlJW7Twc13A/BCWtOkg= Received: by filter0152p1iad2.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0152p1iad2-26687-5A0E4896-1B 2017-11-17 02:25:26.740018025 +0000 UTC Received: from github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net [192.30.253.16]) by ismtpd0005p1iad1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id yYTQP-iIQeOIy1lBqt4glw for ; Fri, 17 Nov 2017 02:25:26.567 +0000 (UTC) Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2017 02:25:26 +0000 (UTC) From: ekr Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Do you need to supply max_early_data in NST to enable 0-RTT (#942) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5a0e4896725ba_1aee3fa95ffeef2840882"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ekr X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org tracking: X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak3BGiwLNJo6AZPMOEFDYZ9jUr8eDPYh9EFK76 r/yDOjWxfcXdP9FJcxVrb6PfyFPRiSEVolCpV9wPcEqaVtCZIfgu0ejRFU9YKXeoGsspnVix30LG6u iKW71e8M3n5MPBQYxuNK08vJIvPdUwNp+LEqsK8N61lfaHM9rrYkHPv26A== Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2017 02:25:29 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5a0e4896725ba_1aee3fa95ffeef2840882 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I would suggest 2^{32}-1, because that signals "TLS is OK with anything" -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/942#issuecomment-345126531 ----==_mimepart_5a0e4896725ba_1aee3fa95ffeef2840882 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I would suggest 2^{32}-1, because that signals "TLS is OK with anything"

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I will try to write some text around the user land setting of DF bit. It= will probably take 2 weeks.

When it comes to ICE, I think @martinthomson is correct what would happen i= n a naive implementation. What I would add beyond a general suggestion is = that an ICE implementation should actually notify the higher layers upon kn= own path changes so QUIC can actually perform the right path changes functi= ons.

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Do you mean use the same session ticket from a TLS 1.3 connection over TCP for Quic 0-RTT? I don't think anything expressly prohibits x-protocol resumption right now, but we could do a security analysis on this.

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Note that we require 0xffffffff in order to keep things consistent.

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  • Explain that NST.max_stream_data is needed for 0-RTT.

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Uses the text specified in RFC 8174 rather than the text from RFC2119.

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Closed #936.

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OK, I still find it a bit confusing but as long as the text refers to current state, that is fine with me.

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----==_mimepart_5a0f177ed1c49_6ad93fcdbf748f3419840-- From nobody Fri Nov 17 16:58:08 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 738B6128B27 for ; Fri, 17 Nov 2017 16:58:06 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.402 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.402 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kwcQ-JMq5qrd for ; Fri, 17 Nov 2017 16:58:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from o3.sgmail.github.com (o3.sgmail.github.com [192.254.112.98]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C944D120725 for ; Fri, 17 Nov 2017 16:58:04 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=4TzkuSum6UXzB5P3lsVsOtPW5l0=; b=azzEMhuVSnspVQu4 YqSyqa8ElwQTfQTy8kDj1v10kTT/7hkkcBGldWxL42lY9V7PhrpREWe7QuYFR60e sIl5mhnd/bfX5IcnkHIhaENSPsR9B3kmzsm9zOMSlOMAb/IikCK2cLfWgFWh52IK wkNJwdcqmVbJJpCvg4JcalwkaM8= Received: by filter0979p1mdw1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0979p1mdw1-4073-5A0F859B-26 2017-11-18 00:58:03.788752481 +0000 UTC Received: from github-smtp2b-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (github-smtp2b-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net [192.30.253.17]) by ismtpd0004p1iad1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id rqbrm6Y0RTSbYnNHqOn-Dg for ; Sat, 18 Nov 2017 00:58:03.733 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2017 00:58:03 +0000 (UTC) From: Subodh Iyengar Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Use time_of_last_sent_packet (#923) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5a0f859b981b0_1e2a3fab45e9cf3472274"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: siyengar X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org tracking: X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak3dSp+lWc0O1EwYY3W+qrrHTclkSFHFcT/PKD PE6BhQ4XBJ7phmY5/VJrzRnFuL2HVzn+vcfXFwLCFahvn65OoH/t32ioPEtTnF7R0qG4FngCIzwGp6 8T+VG6u9gEEiq6oddWh5yzQ/p+4eWHjiBcbmKwdmDm0FLJ2it59O20+dWOywS3/n8l4TVy82S1SVPD 8= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2017 00:58:06 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5a0f859b981b0_1e2a3fab45e9cf3472274 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit github won't let me comment on the particular line of code, however in detect loss packets the delay until lost is also wrong, it should be 1/8 * max(srtt, lrtt) vs 9/8 -> or maybe it should be 1 /4 because we should at least wait for a 1/4 rtt and it should be timereordering vs 1 + timereordering. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/923#issuecomment-345404724 ----==_mimepart_5a0f859b981b0_1e2a3fab45e9cf3472274 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

github won't let me comment on the particular line of code, however

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delay_until_lost is currently described as

9/8 * max(latest_rtt, smoothed_rtt) for early retransmit

however in the text it mentions that we should wait 1/4 of an rtt for early retransmit.

So it seems like the calculation should really be

delay_until_lost = 1/4 * max(latest_rtt, smoothed_rtt)

since effectively

loss_time = unacked.time_sent + delay_until_lost

Similarly time loss detection should also be adjusted to not be

(1 + time_reordering_fraction) * max(latest_rtt, smoothed_rtt)

but

time_reordering_fraction * max(latest_rtt, smoothed_rtt)

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actually nvm, it looks like the purpose here is to wait at least 1rtt si= nce the packet is transmitted and then a little bit more.

In any case the 2 text and the code should be kept in sync and it should= be 1.25 * srtt for the loss_time

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+1 to making this possible. We could add a MAY resume with the session = ticket from the TCP/TLS 1.3 connection if available?

It would be nice to know if the resumption was likely to work or if the = TCP and QUIC TLS 1.3 resumption tokens were completely disjoint. So possib= ly we either need to encourage applications to make resumption back and for= th between QUIC and TCP work OR include some explicit indicator?

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@davidben= ya i mentioned that in a previous comment that tls tickets would have = to have the quic params in them :) A QUIC compatible server would be aware = that clients would use TLS 1.3 + TCP connections to them and send them the = same ticket.

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In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> @@ -1421,7 +1421,12 @@ enable 0-RTT in TCP.
 All the restrictions on the use of 0-RTT apply, with the exception of the ALPN
 label, which MUST only change to a label that is explicitly designated as being
 compatible.  The client indicates which ALPN label it has chosen by placing that
-ALPN label first in the ALPN extension.
+ALPN label first in the ALPN extension. In order to be usable for 0-RTT,
+the NewSessionTicket MUST contain the "max_early_data" extension with the
+value 0xffffffff; the amount of data which the client can send in 0-RTT
+is controlled by the "initial_max_data" and "initial_max_stream_data"
+parameters supplied by the server. It is an error for the server to provide
+any other value for "max_early_data".

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I think we have 3 potential options:

  1. We could send the connection close to the new address
  2. We could just exit draining
  3. We could ignore it completely.

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@ekr commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> @@ -1421,7 +1421,12 @@ enable 0-RTT in TCP.
 All the restrictions on the use of 0-RTT apply, with the exception of the ALPN
 label, which MUST only change to a label that is explicitly designated as being
 compatible.  The client indicates which ALPN label it has chosen by placing that
-ALPN label first in the ALPN extension.
+ALPN label first in the ALPN extension. In order to be usable for 0-RTT,
+the NewSessionTicket MUST contain the "max_early_data" extension with the
+value 0xffffffff; the amount of data which the client can send in 0-RTT
+is controlled by the "initial_max_data" and "initial_max_stream_data"
+parameters supplied by the server. It is an error for the server to provide
+any other value for "max_early_data".

PROTOCOL_VIOLATION perhaps?

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Agreed, TLS 1.3 only.

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Two options seem equally reasonable to me:

  1. Send the connection close to the new address
  2. Send a public reset and change nothing about the draining state

Ignoring it completely seems bad, and I'm not sure why we'd exit drainin= g due to an address change?

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the connection close could be 1MSS big because of the close reason, and = it seemed kind of icky to send a connection close to a random unauthenticat= ed source address someone could send us a small packet and we would send th= em a larger connection close while the connection is draining. The client m= ay have legitimately transition to a new address due to nat rebinding, howe= ver there would be no way to tell. That's the reason just exiting draining = might be 1 legitimate option.

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Similarly we recommend in the doc that you can get rid of all state except just the close packet while in draining. So if you can't verify the packet correctly, then it would make sense to ignore it.

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The TLS doc contains all the packet protection stuff, which includes rules about what can be sent and when. The plan is to move this text to -transport eventually.

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----==_mimepart_5a125633388eb_7e393f87891f6f30558782-- From nobody Mon Nov 20 05:27:42 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D003127868 for ; Mon, 20 Nov 2017 05:27:41 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.018 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.018 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fnbHb7Sx4UbS for ; Mon, 20 Nov 2017 05:27:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from o9.sgmail.github.com (o9.sgmail.github.com [167.89.101.2]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 23D51126E01 for ; Mon, 20 Nov 2017 05:27:39 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=QKU/61HvL/FRIJpgZgzSYCnO8I8=; b=sWhEXCYiBmvP0bpK MRv8fdWJV0NrSVeDCXdzyyzCBg4S4HiiH9LXATgiQ2rtX1683vLqlVjD97S0ABBW 7yHds+Jejknl+8YDUIRfwKi5plTNUUDgfGNnLNcBtrjWaNbfNIjuJV/QH4+5CLrt WPE6TRvrjT0d0/bzJOVk9xwP/xA= Received: by filter0496p1mdw1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0496p1mdw1-17841-5A12D849-16 2017-11-20 13:27:37.715937025 +0000 UTC Received: from github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net [192.30.253.16]) by ismtpd0010p1iad1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id e7ThaZ8sT4GRdolz1AulFg for ; Mon, 20 Nov 2017 13:27:37.716 +0000 (UTC) Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2017 13:27:37 +0000 (UTC) From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] What to do if address of client changes while in draining state (#946) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5a12d849931b0_668d3fab18344f3812267ef"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org tracking: X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak22ZsKATD5G+DEv51Zg+enkDgVGFUonqOLrPa TUHWsYb70WAs2q9xG3EuOdY1D+lpSForvISm+gNHeKwyzr/+gV0KotR1RB9au4kV9nMBrmfpmPOacF MqSH1ocWtNzFvT9R2d1gxl+oX4yFvCxsDHqbvbvJgfhC2u627WBxmfGNTzBvJhcc22o5bbzFS2HwCX 0= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2017 13:27:41 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5a12d849931b0_668d3fab18344f3812267ef Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If you send a connection close, I believe there's a recommendation to use exponential backoff, and the sender decides how large the packet is, so amplification factor shouldn't be a concern. I'm confused by "if you can't verify the packet correctly, then it would make sense to ignore it because we don't want to verify and let the peer go into idle_timeout". Avoiding idle timeout involves sending something, either a connection close or public reset. Honestly, I think the best approach is to do what implementations will likely do by default, which is to send a connection close if you're still storing it and then transition to sending public reset when you've decided to discard the old connection close. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/946#issuecomment-345694976 ----==_mimepart_5a12d849931b0_668d3fab18344f3812267ef Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

If you send a connection close, I believe there's a recommendation to us= e exponential backoff, and the sender decides how large the packet is, so a= mplification factor shouldn't be a concern.

I'm confused by "if you can't verify the packet correctly, then it would= make sense to ignore it because we don't want to verify and let the peer g= o into idle_timeout". Avoiding idle timeout involves sending something, ei= ther a connection close or public reset.

Honestly, I think the best approach is to do what implementations will l= ikely do by default, which is to send a connection close if you're still st= oring it and then transition to sending public reset when you've decided to= discard the old connection close.

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So I've discussed this with a colleague and thought about this some more= .

Firstly, the genesis for the text we've got now was not obvious to someo= ne less familiar with the document development. In other words, the randomi= sation of port number is implicit in the text rather than explicit. For ref= erence sake, the applicable GH items are #424 and #495.

However, meanwhile on = #428 the WG has pursued the allocation of UDP port 443 to the IESG. Thi= s was recently closed off as completed.

So I'd say at this point, the paragraph in question is the victim of a h= igher-level tension that is yet to be resolved. I'd like to keep this ticke= t open in order for us track the issue such that it can be resolved once th= e other dependencies have been.

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This ticket seems relevant to the connection migration topic discussed i= n Singapore. I'm not sure if it came up during the actual session but may p= rovide another example usage beyond NAT rebinding and mult-interface single= path.

It may be beyond the scope of "minimal connection migration" and be a ca= ndidate for a v2 label?

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i don't think implementations will send the packets to the new address b= y default. In connection close state we have the choice of whether or not t= o bind to the new client address or not, or keep the old address. Implement= ations will probably bind to the old address by default, at least that's wh= at I do by default, and while implementing close, this question came to me.=

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Reading the latest HTTP/QUIC editor's copy. Section 4.4 on server push states that:

The PUSH_PROMISE frame is sent on a response stream.

The recent changes in this area have moved away from Stream ID, PUSH_PROMISE frames now reference a Push ID. Push cancellation is achieved by the HTTP/QUIC CANCEL_PUSH frame, which is restricted to the control stream.

So I got to wondering if there may be benefits allowing/restricting HTTP/QUIC PUSH_PROMISE frames on the control stream. It seems to me that CANCEL_PUSH forces implementations to be geared up for managing server push on the control stream anyway.

Maybe I'm missing the benefit of tying pushes to requests, RFC 7540 talks about the requirements but I can't infer the benefits. Relaxing the rule and incorporating something like cache digests might give an appropriately-configured server enough information to push just the correct things with a bit more performance (it is described as unsolicited right?). Another use case is to allow server push without having to hold streams open.

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Just to add another related use case -- migrating to another IP immediat= ely after receiving Client Initial, ie before the completion of the handsha= ke.

That can be used for migration off anycast to unicast of the same sever.= It can also be used for migration to a better server based on client's IP = and SNI of the connection.

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The stateless reset text says:
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To me, that indicates a server should send a connection close if it's po= ssible/straightforward to look that up. If not, send a stateless reset. I= f you have editorial suggestions for this text, feel free to send out a PR.=

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In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> @@ -1421,7 +1421,12 @@ enable 0-RTT in TCP.
 All the restrictions on the use of 0-RTT apply, with the exception of the ALPN
 label, which MUST only change to a label that is explicitly designated as being
 compatible.  The client indicates which ALPN label it has chosen by placing that
-ALPN label first in the ALPN extension.
+ALPN label first in the ALPN extension. In order to be usable for 0-RTT,
+the NewSessionTicket MUST contain the "max_early_data" extension with the
+value 0xffffffff; the amount of data which the client can send in 0-RTT
+is controlled by the "initial_max_data" and "initial_max_stream_data"
+parameters supplied by the server. It is an error for the server to provide
+any other value for "max_early_data".

Yeah, no point in defining anything more specific here. If we did that for every parameter, we'd have a million useless error codes.

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It's very hard for a server to decide to cancel a request on th= e basis that a push is outgoing, because it can't know whether the client r= eally wanted a second request, so we rely on ordering.

For clarification, are you saying it's hard for a server to cancel a sec= ond request, because the server can't know if the client really wanted the = second push?

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HTTP/QUIC says:

The CANCEL_PUSH frame carries a Push ID encoded as a variable-length integer. The Push ID identifies the server push that is being cancelled (see Section 5.2.6).
..snip..
A server MUST treat a CANCEL_PUSH frame payload does not contain exactly one variable-length integer as a connection error of type HTTP_MALFORMED_CANCEL_PUSH.

The first sentence implies that a single Push ID is carried in the payload. The last sentence (filling in the missing-word typo) could imply that multiple Push IDs can be carried in the payload but that servers must reject such frames.

It might help to be more explicit and include a figure for the payload. This provides consistency with the PRIORITY and PUSH_PROMISE sections which also refer to the Push ID.

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Makes the editor copy read weird!

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  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/949

Commit Summary

  • Remove merge conflict hangover

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----==_mimepart_5a1417d8efbdd_2ee53fb8dc730f30535099-- From nobody Tue Nov 21 05:34:53 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE8DC129470 for ; Tue, 21 Nov 2017 05:34:46 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.02 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.02 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CM4YWL76n1pK for ; Tue, 21 Nov 2017 05:34:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from o1.sgmail.github.com (o1.sgmail.github.com [192.254.114.176]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7FFE4129480 for ; Tue, 21 Nov 2017 05:34:44 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=u48LyBM4rHF6tQjiCYn/uwx9V00=; b=d2vT0uJXtHRuGWw4 mTCHupqOuFtuuthvtcMAz9m0WRSjlYeQKoMXJKeXz+36eQDcrv+EMm2w/ool/PL4 ZBTT4wFk42lWZ6qL8LEydkhM+CauJcldWZJCUxqsG/2ipOYTv4jsMj0w4ytcY1vV Gs6YkCJS1EO4sc7NaO59EtBa2J8= Received: by filter0247p1las1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0247p1las1-896-5A142B73-14 2017-11-21 13:34:43.417874184 +0000 UTC Received: from github-smtp2b-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (github-smtp2b-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net [192.30.253.17]) by ismtpd0003p1iad1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id VLU2WkxATUSyVARb8PYptg for ; Tue, 21 Nov 2017 13:34:43.171 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2017 13:34:43 +0000 (UTC) From: Lucas Pardue Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] "Push Stream Header" term and carriage (#950) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5a142b73e474_88f3f9dfb838f2815232d"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: LPardue X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org tracking: X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak0rzsQlEmPcrkR2JCSHzqXY7eywnOD25WomhU m1Qf79UxqnouCIODutY4pfilvJ3TVy7/l67Mon9E1R8lPz21I6JMopy2Hq8rx11RIOVtYNv2KAHb95 cVbr8xNXJ1MdGdegpuLUyYcgu8WitlFwFpsNYf7axIAv1l8M/v+E7aoYQbTyM9qrD6z15v/rAmZtYw w= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2017 13:34:47 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5a142b73e474_88f3f9dfb838f2815232d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit HTTP/QUIC section 4.4 says: > A push stream is a server-initiated, unidirectional stream. A push stream includes a header (see Figure 1) that identifies the PUSH_PROMISE that it fulfills. This header consists of a Push ID, encoded as a variable-length integer. The Push ID identifies a server push (see Section 5.2.6). I'm finding the term push stream header a little obtuse because it isn't a QUIC frame header, an HTTP header, nor an HPACK header-block, and all of those are in scope for a push. Since it could just be me, I don't have any alternatives to suggest at this stage. I think what the text is saying is that a push stream is a sequence of QUIC STREAM frames, the first frame must contain the push stream header directly. In other words, there is no additional HTTP/QUIC framing for this (although I do wonder if an INITIATE_PUSH frame, that includes the Push ID might be way more explicit (at the cost of framing overhead)). > After the push stream header, a push contains a response (Section 4.2), with response headers, a response body (if any) carried by DATA frames, then trailers (if any) carried by HEADERS frames. For clarity, I wonder if it might be better to say: _After the push stream header, a push contains a response (Section 4.2), with response header fields carried by HEADERS frames, a response body (if any) carried by DATA frames, then trailer fields (if any) carried by HEADERS frames._ -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/950 ----==_mimepart_5a142b73e474_88f3f9dfb838f2815232d Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

HTTP/QUIC section 4.4 says:

A push stream is a server-initiated, unidirectional stream. A push stream includes a header (see Figure 1) that identifies the PUSH_PROMISE that it fulfills. This header consists of a Push ID, encoded as a variable-length integer. The Push ID identifies a server push (see Section 5.2.6).

I'm finding the term push stream header a little obtuse because it isn't a QUIC frame header, an HTTP header, nor an HPACK header-block, and all of those are in scope for a push. Since it could just be me, I don't have any alternatives to suggest at this stage.

I think what the text is saying is that a push stream is a sequence of QUIC STREAM frames, the first frame must contain the push stream header directly. In other words, there is no additional HTTP/QUIC framing for this (although I do wonder if an INITIATE_PUSH frame, that includes the Push ID might be way more explicit (at the cost of framing overhead)).

After the push stream header, a push contains a response (Section 4.2), with response headers, a response body (if any) carried by DATA frames, then trailers (if any) carried by HEADERS frames.

For clarity, I wonder if it might be better to say:

After the push stream header, a push contains a response (Section 4.2), with response header fields carried by HEADERS frames, a response body (if any) carried by DATA frames, then trailer fields (if any) carried by HEADERS frames.

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Ordering of PUSH_PROMISE relative to other activity in a response is cri= tical. Ideally, a URL arrives after a PUSH_PROMISE, or the client might mak= e another request that duplicates the push.

Hmm, now I think about it, RFC 7540 Section 8.2.1 does say that "The ser= ver SHOULD send PUSH_PROMISE frames prior to sending any frames that refere= nce the promised responses". HTTP/2 relied on TCP to provide send-order rec= eption guarantees. Since QUIC cannot guarantee ordering across streams but = does provide in-order delivery within a stream, sending PUSH_PROMISE on the= response stream can help towards this requirement. So a simple way to addr= ess my initial comment would be to directly qualify the sentence with text,= a reference to Section 8.2.1 or both.

However, I could also argue that the race condition issues could be less= pronounced for HTTP/QUIC due to the CANCEL_PUSH semantic that didn't previ= ously exist. A sensible SHOULD would place PUSH_PROMISE on the request stre= am but there be cases where a request-less push on the control stream could= be of benefit.

I'd also like to say that I think the current design is clever. The spec= already goes to some lengths to help accommodate request concurrency and o= ut-of-order delivery. I really like the approach for allowing multiple PUSH= _PROMISE frames to use the same PUSH ID.

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First off, I don't know if this is really an issue.

With the introduction of varint and unidirectional streams, there seems to be a disparity between the initial_max_stream_id TransportParameter

The initial maximum stream ID parameter contains the initial maximum stream number the peer may initiate, encoded as an unsigned 32-bit integer.

and MAX_STREAM_ID

ID of the maximum unidirectional or bidirectional peer-initiated stream ID for the connection encoded as a variable-length integer. The limit applies to unidirectional steams if the second least signification bit of the stream ID is 1, and applies to bidirectional streams if it is 0.

Which one is "better"?

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The QUIC Transport and Management documents makes several references to the term "NAT rebinding". With my pedant hat on, I was surprised to find no concise definition or citation to an expanded definition. Basic Google searching didn't help much either.

Given that this came up during Singapore as something that is important to mitigate, it seem like it would be useful to define.

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Merged #949.

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The last sentence indicates that the length of the frame could be mismat= ched (too long or too short) with there being exactly one variable-length i= nteger, and if that happens then all bets are off on the interpretation of = the frame. I'm not sure how that would be more explicit, but feel free to = propose text.

We generally don't put figures for frames that contain a single field, t= hough some of the PRs have added that.

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Let's back up a second. QUIC streams are bytestreams as far as the appl= ication is concerned. It has no knowledge or dependency on how the bytestr= eam is segmented for transport. So the sequence of bytes on the stream is:=

  • Stream header (only for push streams at the moment, might expand)
  • HTTP/QUIC Frames

In Martin's original unidirectional proposal, all streams had stream hea= ders identifying the type of stream. Currently only push streams have them= , but a reasonable argument can be made for putting them on the control str= eam as well. They're probably necessary if the header compression algorith= m has its own control channels, too, so you can differentiate between types= of unidirectional streams.

Once the dust settles on that, I'll probably reorganize to describe that= the header exists on unidirectional streams, followed by a sequence of fra= mes to the end of the stream.

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Presently, there is no normative language for Transport Parameter omit_connection_id.

I would like to propose replacing "can" with a normative "MAY". It is important that this MAY is specified, so the endpoints do not consider it an error (or even a warning), when their omit_connection_id is ignored.

Servers that identify connections using Connection ID (and not a 4-tuple) need to send that Connection ID, so they can attribute an ICMP Error with the correct connection. (While IPv4 ICMP Error definition makes including UDP packet data optional, many routers still include it, and it is mandatory in IPv6 ICMPv6.)

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----==_mimepart_5a14b1a13e9be_6a9d3fdbb54d0f282013e7-- From nobody Tue Nov 21 20:09:25 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A15E129C2A for ; Tue, 21 Nov 2017 20:09:23 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.615 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.615 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id n6lzcrG1m_GE for ; Tue, 21 Nov 2017 20:09:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from o7.sgmail.github.com (o7.sgmail.github.com [167.89.101.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 457791205F0 for ; Tue, 21 Nov 2017 20:09:22 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=AbpW367m5KABIvsHvVYDwLLKM6M=; b=tD8UG2Z7bZ47EaJ7 HSypVu/nK+MXML+W0SZvhfY0+ucFzg/YH0rNKKlUShiHi9rMWvqnW8bLM5WR8o7O CCVhH2iepWODpGSJJ+E8xrx2+0hDMGLR11VOI1LII3wspgvzqHctj7lNwp1XPpBh 1DVI7fmLAWtqkReKm7eeZufwhDE= Received: by filter1239p1mdw1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter1239p1mdw1-25635-5A14F871-4 2017-11-22 04:09:21.296686995 +0000 UTC Received: from github-smtp2b-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (github-smtp2b-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net [192.30.253.17]) by ismtpd0006p1iad2.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id 63QkJxqaTSqevMLH01uunw for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2017 04:09:21.150 +0000 (UTC) Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2017 04:09:21 +0000 (UTC) From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Can PUSH_PROMISE rules be relaxed to allow sending on a control stream? (#947) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5a14f8712a5b9_372d3fb2d9c58f3416386b"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org tracking: X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak20VHcvI/vkZtT8Pgs3cdN7rr91uYmYXyyjMx OMLkJQF7jFmp9bjG8do23KsWCyUOD2p1H80ZM5YMLQqLU8zyOWeffQpgP/dt/QL0peCRSf94mUhtrt 6qWQo8iOcmXJtrj64bgkjJXzuxnOnZ3iJ+L+s25xZ2DbwcutSLIayhbzFFJiaMKgr0TlOjepgit418 Y= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2017 04:09:23 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5a14f8712a5b9_372d3fb2d9c58f3416386b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit An important property of pushes is their association with other requests. We discussed uncoupled pushes during the development of HTTP/2 and it made it very difficult for a stack that has multiple clients to decide which of those clients will receive the push. Though there might be cases where ordering is less critical, but I don't know how to justify adding extra complexity. Happy to add clarification about the ordering rationale. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/947#issuecomment-346237869 ----==_mimepart_5a14f8712a5b9_372d3fb2d9c58f3416386b Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

An important property of pushes is their association with other requests= . We discussed uncoupled pushes during the development of HTTP/2 and it ma= de it very difficult for a stack that has multiple clients to decide which = of those clients will receive the push. Though there might be cases where = ordering is less critical, but I don't know how to justify adding extra com= plexity.

Happy to add clarification about the ordering rationale.

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= ----==_mimepart_5a14f8712a5b9_372d3fb2d9c58f3416386b-- From nobody Wed Nov 22 04:12:21 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDCEE129400 for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2017 04:12:19 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.019 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.019 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fS0wd20_77CI for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2017 04:12:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from o1.sgmail.github.com (o1.sgmail.github.com [192.254.114.176]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D58F8129418 for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2017 04:12:16 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=6LowVasVPuhlmJaLdU1WarpJ2zI=; b=L+A6rPPTeM/ogVry H18axnXctHKCQRMjgTMqL5OgJ8mYSzupeC0zpK1beyAaeywufuZB/R+ynYsE7rP8 OQ05ZGiNehk+2RBamtazqUZSBkGlcvbCvYJTJgAB5Xobxd+AXEsowPFwpLSc8ZRS aof4m05VbFOeI0xvKYC48pYNrmA= Received: by filter0842p1mdw1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0842p1mdw1-30450-5A15699F-1F 2017-11-22 12:12:15.66920672 +0000 UTC Received: from github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net [192.30.253.16]) by ismtpd0011p1iad2.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id -DkV_W7wQW2_DGJi0UdEjQ for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2017 12:12:15.679 +0000 (UTC) Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2017 12:12:15 +0000 (UTC) From: Lucas Pardue Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] CANCEL_PUSH frame payload ambiguity (#948) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5a15699fa53f2_47c53fda3822ef2883876b"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: LPardue X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org tracking: X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak2VO0LL0rBsiV5cTrRqBHiLYzv9t/uKkwb6rG DyB8Bo8QoQ224tik4cNuUuPJP+rFQfFo4qHit27XnvGayKCxV/r/FwQ8mjVQMLAzxGWylCI0XCe19f 1EmJ9Aznq6hY0Ek43nkuE7gwTstKP9GbbuqLKgbS+5vSEsKXFOstHrSi/DurutsE/yQVxkL1gPri+/ M= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2017 12:12:20 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5a15699fa53f2_47c53fda3822ef2883876b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > The last sentence indicates that the length of the frame could be mismatched (too long or too short) with there being exactly one variable-length integer, and if that happens then all bets are off on the interpretation of the frame. I'm not sure how that would be more explicit, but feel free to propose text. I see where you are coming from. I'd be happy to propose a PR(s) but don't want to go off in a wrong direction. Please let me know what you think after reading the following. > A server MUST treat a CANCEL_PUSH frame payload does not contain exactly one variable-length integer as a connection error of type HTTP_MALFORMED_CANCEL_PUSH. Is this specific to the server, or applicable to either endpoint that receives a frame mismatch? Unless I misunderstand something special with varints (elsewhere the spec mentions truncation), the condition seems overly specific. I.e. The format is defined as exactly one varint, so any deviation from that is malformed and leads to an error with a suitable code. I noticed that HTTP_MALFORMED_CANCEL_PUSH frame error is undefined. Probably just slipped through the net. Looking a bit deeper, I see that the HTTP/QUIC pattern is to define a named error code for each frame type, in contrast QUIC Transport defines a generic frame error code (FRAME_FORMAT_ERROR 0x7) and then a specific frame error codespace (FRAME_ERROR 0x1XX, where the last octet expresses the frame type). I wonder if such an approach might also be suitable for HTTP/QUIC e.g. HTTP_FRAME_ERROR. I have no problem not diagramming single field frames. I admit to not noticing that convention until you pointed it out but it makes sense. I think what confused me slightly is the general document layout regarding server push and push ID. The first instances of the Push ID term are in Section 4.3 and 4.4 which reference 5.2.6. Unfortunately, 5.2.6 entangles the general description of what is Push ID, with how it's used in the PUSH_PROMISE frame. Section 4.4 includes guidance on using Push ID without defining what it is. So I wonder if it might help to extract out a common definition of Push ID (varint, used in X,Y,Z frames etc) into section 4.4. Then specific sections can specialise their usage of Push ID as required. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/948#issuecomment-346332867 ----==_mimepart_5a15699fa53f2_47c53fda3822ef2883876b Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

The last sentence indicates that the length of the frame could be mismat= ched (too long or too short) with there being exactly one variable-length i= nteger, and if that happens then all bets are off on the interpretation of = the frame. I'm not sure how that would be more explicit, but feel free to p= ropose text.

I see where you are coming from. I'd be happy to propose a PR(s) but don= 't want to go off in a wrong direction. Please let me know what you think a= fter reading the following.

A server MUST treat a CANCEL_PUSH frame payload does not contain exactly= one variable-length integer as a connection error of type HTTP_MALFORMED_C= ANCEL_PUSH.

Is this specific to the server, or applicable to either endpoint that re= ceives a frame mismatch? Unless I misunderstand something special with vari= nts (elsewhere the spec mentions truncation), the condition seems overly sp= ecific. I.e. The format is defined as exactly one varint, so any deviation = from that is malformed and leads to an error with a suitable code.

I noticed that HTTP_MALFORMED_CANCEL_PUSH frame error is undefined. Prob= ably just slipped through the net. Looking a bit deeper, I see that the HTT= P/QUIC pattern is to define a named error code for each frame type, in cont= rast QUIC Transport defines a generic frame error code (FRAME_FORMAT_ERROR = 0x7) and then a specific frame error codespace (FRAME_ERROR 0x1XX, where th= e last octet expresses the frame type). I wonder if such an approach might = also be suitable for HTTP/QUIC e.g. HTTP_FRAME_ERROR.

I have no problem not diagramming single field frames. I admit to not no= ticing that convention until you pointed it out but it makes sense.

I think what confused me slightly is the general document layout regardi= ng server push and push ID. The first instances of the Push ID term are in = Section 4.3 and 4.4 which reference 5.2.6. Unfortunately, 5.2.6 entangles t= he general description of what is Push ID, with how it's used in the PUSH_P= ROMISE frame. Section 4.4 includes guidance on using Push ID without defini= ng what it is.

So I wonder if it might help to extract out a common definition of Push = ID (varint, used in X,Y,Z frames etc) into section 4.4. Then specific secti= ons can specialise their usage of Push ID as required.

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= ----==_mimepart_5a15699fa53f2_47c53fda3822ef2883876b-- From nobody Wed Nov 22 07:58:36 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E60C8129466 for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2017 07:58:34 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.019 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.019 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id I6ktAGYY6TgG for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2017 07:58:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from o4.sgmail.github.com (o4.sgmail.github.com [192.254.112.99]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 69FBF129465 for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2017 07:58:33 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=h99BpKTUtuPcsvEXR6BMtslc1Wc=; b=O79tCCXMeSeyTNA9 GyJrD94xBwFuOSJMbyp9XOoCjWmu3FQxqjMSmpO1+C0LfxUzktkPXi1c21U2dTZW X+UrTJxqJavwxuAH2aoQp50E7sYVAmKuAtYWPKF9/3rAS70tPdDeFbbbr35uYRkT jcyFIRdP1r0KWMKUoCBAC45Ihms= Received: by filter0175p1iad2.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0175p1iad2-10078-5A159EA7-A 2017-11-22 15:58:31.262625454 +0000 UTC Received: from github-smtp2b-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (github-smtp2b-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net [192.30.253.17]) by ismtpd0019p1iad2.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id hc_km-d9RkKVThNCC1kF5Q for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2017 15:58:31.167 +0000 (UTC) Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2017 15:58:31 +0000 (UTC) From: Lucas Pardue Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] "Push Stream Header" term and carriage (#950) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5a159ea724de7_2cc03feff03baf2c864898"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: LPardue X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org tracking: X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak06MWCiyHmjPg/SyPR+pGtBtEGpL8KKnCuUjt GfbQZGj66CDYEsmqwZhIw61mKVAEx8YgJvv+OtIRrVyzWPFQ6ZL7QgzaEovwVLjYD7Hron7w8xAkVU k8UaYtbkI2kuiDmn/42rPuOcSUF1fh+A4pXj4R3j0TMcKmYoMeSlL442aEBVMjMIqbrnP8b2K1xhby w= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2017 15:58:35 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5a159ea724de7_2cc03feff03baf2c864898 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Right, thanks for me reminding me of that unidirectional PR. I can see now the bits that were migrated over. The confusing bits in the current HTTP/QUIC doc (from my perspective) are the absence of generic definition of what a stream header is (hard when there is just one and it only contains one field), and the overloading of Push ID for different uses. With a better understanding of the area, I think some of the problem would be alleviated with some restructure of section 4.4 and 5.2.6 as described on #948. The rest is resolvable once the dust settles as you say. I have no strong opinion on if this ticket should be kept open or closed. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/950#issuecomment-346393487 ----==_mimepart_5a159ea724de7_2cc03feff03baf2c864898 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Right, thanks for me reminding me of that unidirectional PR. I can see n= ow the bits that were migrated over. The confusing bits in the current HTTP= /QUIC doc (from my perspective) are the absence of generic definition of wh= at a stream header is (hard when there is just one and it only contains one= field), and the overloading of Push ID for different uses.

With a better understanding of the area, I think some of the problem wou= ld be alleviated with some restructure of section 4.4 and 5.2.6 as describe= d on #948.

The rest is resolvable once the dust settles as you say. I have no stron= g opinion on if this ticket should be kept open or closed.

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Fallback is used by the endpoints when a QUIC connection fails.
The protocol specification should define when QUIC fallback occur (establishment, during the live time of a connection...) and detail how it works (delay before attempting to reconnect in QUIC ...).

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Currently QUIC headers don't provide the information for on-path troubleshooting of the network performance. When the QoS decreases badly endpoints fallback from QUIC to TCP. This behavior enable network troubleshooting with legacy TCP monitoring tools.
Will the endpoints support the fallback to TCP for all the versions of the QUIC protocol ?

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This is not an invariant. There already are cases when QUIC does not need to fall back to TCP on private networks.

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= ----==_mimepart_5a15b4bb146c7_21073fdd3da80f342242eb-- From nobody Wed Nov 22 09:53:58 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50797129516 for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2017 09:53:56 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.019 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.019 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9NbrNGNRp4_k for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2017 09:53:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from o9.sgmail.github.com (o9.sgmail.github.com [167.89.101.2]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1B954129508 for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2017 09:53:54 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=aOEQayebGoRcaoiao/bNmsX0WMo=; b=uX9al/J21WnetF4D 0U/Kb8L3iGzK+ZuRjn8kQkA6b9BgHSxpbYQR3E9ylk7EodHAPFgpNK62Sz6bnDVw eefGmvZ0VeyY71ucLiTLLybr89egrS1Y0dZVQ+dsXIrBPIRqso8JxgEiqeB3rYWB zOZ7CFNKSsuaGeGukaBTbSgfRxQ= Received: by filter0588p1mdw1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0588p1mdw1-13279-5A15B9AF-1 2017-11-22 17:53:51.079782111 +0000 UTC Received: from github-smtp2b-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (github-smtp2b-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net [192.30.253.17]) by ismtpd0011p1iad2.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id OcJG5S9STMmGUZMiFtRa8w for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2017 17:53:50.856 +0000 (UTC) Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2017 17:53:51 +0000 (UTC) From: Colin Perkins Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Renumber packet types and invert Connection ID Flag (#956) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5a15b9aecb965_7dbd3ff9d237cf381424dd"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: csperkins X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org tracking: X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak3oPQ5ZRGl9eJCs48XsfKveW4uCbnU8nGxpND micc24UVl2nqEXNv03oQxJpzG1m8yH3wPKO6HNsA0RXKMCx2vAWVmeTHz5+FRfNAeFVynZdo6wr2f9 a2C/gWogJ35oZ0Ml4bVoZDzyI//E7b8mYTdAOPY08cSUMiNnYbg6wi0zqRUxMvP7Altl3a0xQaXCET A= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2017 17:53:56 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5a15b9aecb965_7dbd3ff9d237cf381424dd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This commit makes the following changes: - Renumber long header packet types to count from 0x7f downwards, rather than from 0x01 upwards - Renumber short header packet types to count from 0x1f downward, rather than from 0x01 upward - Invert the sense of the Connection ID Flag in the short header packets, to become an Omit Connection ID Flag This is a purely syntactic change, with no semantic impact on QUIC. The purpose of the changes is to make it possible to easily demultiplex QUIC and STUN packets running on a single UDP port, to enable peer to peer use of QUIC. It also enables demultiplexing of WebRTC packets and QUIC packets on a single UDP port. Discussed in QUIC and AVTCORE working groups at IETF 100 (draft-aboba-avtcore-quic-multiplexing-01) and on QUIC mailing list. Addresses issue #426 You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/956 -- Commit Summary -- * Renumber packet types and invert Connection ID Flag -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (52) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/956.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/956.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/956 ----==_mimepart_5a15b9aecb965_7dbd3ff9d237cf381424dd Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

This commit makes the following changes:

  • Renumber long header packet types to count from 0x7f downwards, rather than from 0x01 upwards
  • Renumber short header packet types to count from 0x1f downward, rather than from 0x01 upward
  • Invert the sense of the Connection ID Flag in the short header packets, to become an Omit Connection ID Flag

This is a purely syntactic change, with no semantic impact on QUIC.

The purpose of the changes is to make it possible to easily demultiplex QUIC and STUN packets running on a single UDP port, to enable peer to peer use of QUIC. It also enables demultiplexing of WebRTC packets and QUIC packets on a single UDP port.

Discussed in QUIC and AVTCORE working groups at IETF 100 (draft-aboba-avtcore-quic-multiplexing-01) and on QUIC mailing list.

Addresses issue #426

You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/956

Commit Summary

  • Renumber packet types and invert Connection ID Flag

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----==_mimepart_5a15b9aecb965_7dbd3ff9d237cf381424dd-- From nobody Wed Nov 22 09:55:44 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D92B12953B for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2017 09:55:42 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.799 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.799 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-2.8, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Jbe2pMYqhhcy for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2017 09:55:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from o6.sgmail.github.com (o6.sgmail.github.com [192.254.113.101]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3302E1294E0 for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2017 09:55:39 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=S5GIX8D71FGBOAAjTRYxmX+JucI=; b=wn4b8jUEZjHOZDq1 WBYfbmIjDrgb/DEr8Rb56gdW7W/2e29XHSZxCVkWPf7QBlgQJuPc/e0yPSGHb2Ea 9ZHaC6VHL40Vd3ZHSeb91uIiAz+I/RAggk8Uaigd4/fDAu7wyMx5looD4EnS4JXP PvfEoWy4IsQ0relBED3LPfnZlxM= Received: by filter1253p1mdw1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter1253p1mdw1-12552-5A15BA1A-7 2017-11-22 17:55:38.397556618 +0000 UTC Received: from github-smtp2b-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (github-smtp2b-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net [192.30.253.17]) by ismtpd0018p1iad2.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id vPYwvz9oRxW2kn3yQflqmA for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2017 17:55:38.392 +0000 (UTC) Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2017 17:55:38 +0000 (UTC) From: Lucas Pardue Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Can PUSH_PROMISE rules be relaxed to allow sending on a control stream? (#947) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5a15ba1a459b4_8ef33fc22aa60f282978ca"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: LPardue X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org tracking: X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak1oS7moET0QIM7sJUHLZyJHamtNpsdaSO/Wrz kQYPOX8GAQ5/45vg0F8cS5Bw5S4PKRb1VoP80vKSw0jkc/+KFN/wY2JKZIvt78bCZl4rTjZUO/x77s 6v/hPwipA6qUf/FqWmVMZ3SEEeY62nIou+sLBO/kpHuU6RHbJ6a8DBAY3RYlvBkPJb4C6ACuYV9JFf Q= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2017 17:55:42 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5a15ba1a459b4_8ef33fc22aa60f282978ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Intermediaries perhaps feel particular pain. Some might say that Service Worker shines a new light on old problems. So I think you've convinced me in the general case. In practical terms, a request object primitive is a pretty useful thing, especially for implementations that already use such a paradigm (perhaps also why H2 or HQ frames that operate at application-level have some difficulty gaining traction). Request/response is also great for implementations that like to minimise state. The great replies from @MikeBishop on other issues I've raised have also given me greater insight to this section. Where is says: > The PUSH_PROMISE frame is sent on a response stream. I think the term "response stream" is left over from the old @martinthomson unidirectional PR. This is the only occurrence of the term and in the current context of HTTP/QUIC doesn't make much sense. In actuality, the PUSH_PROMISE frame is sent on the client-initiated, bidirectional stream that carried the request that generated the push. I think thats the only form allowed (i.e. you can't send PUSH_PROMISE on a server-initiated unidirectional or bidirectional stream. I might be arguing now that the current definition is **not strict enough** in mandating on what streams PUSH_PROMISE can be sent on. Once that gets clarified, I think the idea of sending PUSH_PROMISE on server-initiated unidirectional streams (the control stream to name one) falls outside the general case but may help special use cases. Would there be aversion to a HTTP/QUIC extension that modifies semantics to allow such use cases? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/947#issuecomment-346427757 ----==_mimepart_5a15ba1a459b4_8ef33fc22aa60f282978ca Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Intermediaries perhaps feel particular pain. Some might say that Service= Worker shines a new light on old problems.

So I think you've convinced me in the general case. In practical terms, = a request object primitive is a pretty useful thing, especially for impleme= ntations that already use such a paradigm (perhaps also why H2 or HQ frames= that operate at application-level have some difficulty gaining traction). = Request/response is also great for implementations that like to minimise st= ate.

The great replies from @MikeBishop on other issues I've raised have also giv= en me greater insight to this section. Where is says:

The PUSH_PROMISE frame is sent on a response stream.

I think the term "response stream" is left over from the old @martinthomson= unidirectional PR. This is the only occurrence of the term and in the curr= ent context of HTTP/QUIC doesn't make much sense.

In actuality, the PUSH_PROMISE frame is sent on the client-initiated, bi= directional stream that carried the request that generated the push. I thin= k thats the only form allowed (i.e. you can't send PUSH_PROMISE on a server= -initiated unidirectional or bidirectional stream. I might be arguing now t= hat the current definition is not strict enough in mandati= ng on what streams PUSH_PROMISE can be sent on.

Once that gets clarified, I think the idea of sending PUSH_PROMISE on se= rver-initiated unidirectional streams (the control stream to name one) fall= s outside the general case but may help special use cases. Would there be a= version to a HTTP/QUIC extension that modifies semantics to allow such use = cases?

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= ----==_mimepart_5a15ba1a459b4_8ef33fc22aa60f282978ca-- From nobody Wed Nov 22 10:44:32 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B42FB129A9A for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2017 10:44:31 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.019 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.019 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ySl1tgIpmt5V for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2017 10:44:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from o3.sgmail.github.com (o3.sgmail.github.com [192.254.112.98]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E5D5F120727 for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2017 10:44:29 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=/9/3h/cv+ayZLGEvZ4Lq6963UVA=; b=dt8hM31BRDe1Jcuk 8EKXuIvcrZypjbxC+04FAukmTsB9C9pB2x91CYTzc9mhNWobgrMlR/hnePf+pjKS qVkNYBI8baly0vjafMKVY6MzafXY/fKtzv1Fu1GwddHhQp2wAMEhfXZlovs0a62k xxoMVThBeEi66LY4iqa1CMsBwNU= Received: by filter0271p1las1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0271p1las1-24466-5A15C58C-16 2017-11-22 18:44:28.53140511 +0000 UTC Received: from github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net [192.30.253.16]) by ismtpd0009p1iad1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id ubQAYBGqRtuu_9XtuWZ-yw for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2017 18:44:28.449 +0000 (UTC) Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2017 18:44:28 +0000 (UTC) From: Lucas Pardue Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Specify QUIC protocol fallback to TCP. (#954) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5a15c58c58a15_5cb43fb74c3acf3049402e"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: LPardue X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org tracking: X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak0OjhLZCMWIrtMptVCfB0kG2/IE+sPxRtXjb7 /ZDKz5o4oH6BZVcUjFEjcyf0xFtf4rQdohYrBwYUxwdU1Nfqguc0+n6fankfa72Z0VdTPJUE6MKPIg PkKla2N/QIFt32H2yfi4UJD2aZRN/2xx6aS0A7OtgWQ2405/BsOGQ0BOj1PqhZNYwdgwW6+0tAMsPs o= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2017 18:44:32 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5a15c58c58a15_5cb43fb74c3acf3049402e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think there are significant drawbacks to mandating or specifying TCP. 1) Application mapping such as DNS/QUIC don't naturally fullback to TCP. 2) TCP fullback maybe reflects a simple view where a host just advertises itself as a HTTP/QUIC alternative. More complex deployment may Alt-Svc to other hosts that listen on UDP only. The network path to such hosts may be configured for UDP only. 3) For HTTP/QUIC, fallback is really a function of Alt-Svc fullback. I.e. fallback to the origin that advertised the HTTP/QUIC endpoint. Strategies for this in Alt-Svc are loosely defined and I would say are implementation specific. 4) TCP fullback is a security consideration. Attack vectors such as version downgrade may become more attractive if standardised. In a scenario where QUIC is a prime transport protocol and receives continued security evolution, fallback to TCP (and TLS packet protection) requires effort to maintain equivalent security. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/954#issuecomment-346440067 ----==_mimepart_5a15c58c58a15_5cb43fb74c3acf3049402e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I think there are significant drawbacks to mandating or specifying TCP.<= /p>

  1. Application mapping such as DNS/QUIC don't naturally fullback to TCP.
  2. TCP fullback maybe reflects a simple view where a host just advertises = itself as a HTTP/QUIC alternative. More complex deployment may Alt-Svc to o= ther hosts that listen on UDP only. The network path to such hosts may be c= onfigured for UDP only.
  3. For HTTP/QUIC, fallback is really a function of Alt-Svc fullback. I.e. = fallback to the origin that advertised the HTTP/QUIC endpoint. Strategies f= or this in Alt-Svc are loosely defined and I would say are implementation s= pecific.
  4. TCP fullback is a security consideration. Attack vectors such as versio= n downgrade may become more attractive if standardised. In a scenario where= QUIC is a prime transport protocol and receives continued security evoluti= on, fallback to TCP (and TLS packet protection) requires effort to maintain= equivalent security.

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@martinthomson approved this pull request.

Thanks Colin. As you say, this is a fairly modest change, but I'd like to double check that this doesn't cause issues for people who are already deploying versions of QUIC that might be hard to run concurrent with these new codepoints.

That includes @janaiyengar and @dtikhonov at a minimum.

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Fallback to TCP isn't a property of QUIC. As others have said, the prot= ocol that uses QUIC might vary in its requirement.

HTTP/QUIC uses alternative services to upgrade, so naturally it means th= at TCP is used as part of the bootstrapping process and TCP connections wil= l be used if the QUIC-based alternative goes away.

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In short, the idea would be to define a new transport parameter for conn= ection ID that determines what connection ID (if any) is used for packets w= ith the short header. Long header packets would use the client-chosen valu= e.

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As with server push for HTTP/2, the server initiates a server push by sending a PUSH_PROMISE frame that includes request header fields attributed to the -request. The PUSH_PROMISE frame is sent on a response stream. Unlike HTTP/2, -the PUSH_PROMISE does not reference a stream; when a server fulfills a promise, -the stream that carries the stream headers references the PUSH_PROMISE. This -allows a server to fulfill promises in the order that best suits its needs. +request. The PUSH_PROMISE frame is sent on the client-initiated, bidirectional +stream that carried the request that generated the push. This allows the server +push to be associated with a request. Ordering of a PUSH_PROMISE in relation to +certain parts of the response is important (see Section 8.2.1 of {{!RFC7540}}). + +Unlike HTTP/2, the PUSH_PROMISE does not reference a stream; when a server +fulfills a promise, the stream that carries the stream headers references the +PUSH_PROMISE. This allows a server to fulfill promises in the order that best Minor nit: would it be clearer to say "references the Push ID"? Multiple PUSH_PROMISE can reference same Push ID so a pushed stream is not satisfying any particular promise. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/957#pullrequestreview-78602720 ----==_mimepart_5a160871d5ee5_3b293f8e9a184f30524ea Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -362,10 +362,15 @@ a MAX_PUSH_ID frame.
 
 As with server push for HTTP/2, the server initiates a server push by sending a
 PUSH_PROMISE frame that includes request header fields attributed to the
-request. The PUSH_PROMISE frame is sent on a response stream.  Unlike HTTP/2,
-the PUSH_PROMISE does not reference a stream; when a server fulfills a promise,
-the stream that carries the stream headers references the PUSH_PROMISE.  This
-allows a server to fulfill promises in the order that best suits its needs.
+request. The PUSH_PROMISE frame is sent on the client-initiated, bidirectional
+stream that carried the request that generated the push.  This allows the server
+push to be associated with a request.  Ordering of a PUSH_PROMISE in relation to
+certain parts of the response is important (see Section 8.2.1 of {{!RFC7540}}).
+
+Unlike HTTP/2, the PUSH_PROMISE does not reference a stream; when a server
+fulfills a promise, the stream that carries the stream headers references the
+PUSH_PROMISE.  This allows a server to fulfill promises in the order that best

Minor nit: would it be clearer to say "references the Push ID"? Multiple PUSH_PROMISE can reference same Push ID so a pushed stream is not satisfying any particular promise.

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----==_mimepart_5a160871d5ee5_3b293f8e9a184f30524ea-- From nobody Wed Nov 22 15:39:59 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D04B112EB5F for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2017 15:39:54 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.019 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.019 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Dps5VROcy0fr for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2017 15:39:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from o9.sgmail.github.com (o9.sgmail.github.com [167.89.101.2]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 227A61200F1 for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2017 15:39:51 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=jq0HbUdoKlNWs0Fee8gsivJIa8c=; b=hJDhEj56IVcYW1J4 nVkWomvi203immz/86KS66JSZPD93UFYNnnWMVPZySph5N9ZtRCHADO9erlUy45s q75eU2Grxp61Dg5N5m21b5YH0f5arRjGSPO+OWKz+3hSOzpdH1I2r/KRtIa1hNfC mr6ZCPtmhNlCjWxAU5oBzlaRStw= Received: by filter0100p1las1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0100p1las1-23245-5A160AC5-15 2017-11-22 23:39:49.753653314 +0000 UTC Received: from github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net [192.30.253.16]) by ismtpd0015p1iad2.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id mDE7uPzHTkKIx2219Ifw_w for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2017 23:39:49.600 +0000 (UTC) Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2017 23:39:49 +0000 (UTC) From: Marten Seemann Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Renumber packet types and invert Connection ID Flag (#956) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5a160ac570fac_69203fc6490baf2892498"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: marten-seemann X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org tracking: X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak3Iqo0JHlotXL7emw1rOVhPMI81ZmraWCnapQ ITG/hE3btfFfhacqK7vuSLQa9V1+Vh8vwV9P4crXWQeCO8GLbiJGKcnrizbKS76SZBGF48AKEDZVYt Q+LTOZNcuQ71o6Rqxaj7hCL5i0fYaDJSFR0fL6C0FGCAbUyqlfbm7Nx5PNk4jZnI3DJ3nTo7Bl70d4 M= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2017 23:39:55 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5a160ac570fac_69203fc6490baf2892498 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I recently implemented the [header parsing logic for quic-go](https://github.com/lucas-clemente/quic-go/blob/master/internal/wire/header.go#L34-L72), such that it can handle both gQUIC and IETF QUIC. You might find my summary of the different formats for the type byte useful: https://docs.google.com/document/d/162BtfR84c6xTvAG6AaPK0dXSQXKahMrtJOXxNnpcwDw/edit?usp=sharing. The current packet header format has the nice property that it is possible to decide if the packet is a gQUIC or an IETF QUIC packet by just looking at the type byte. This is possible due to the following properties: ### for packets sent by the server For packets sent by the server the client already knows the QUIC version needed for parsing the packet, as soon as version negotiation is completed. Therefore, the only requirement here is that the type byte used for the Version Negotiation Packet in IETF QUIC is not used in gQUIC, and the type byte used for the gQUIC VNP is not used in IETF QUIC. This property is guaranteed by the first bit of the type byte alone already (0x80 is unset in gQUIC, and set for an IETF QUIC VNP). ### for packets sent by the client All gQUIC packets have bits 0x80 and 0x40 unset, and currently IETF QUIC packets either have 0x80 set (for long headers) or 0x40 set (for short headers, if connection ID omission is not allowed, which I assume is what server implementations will do). This property would be changed by this PR (because the connection ID bit is inverted), so a server wouldn't be able to distinguish between gQUIC and short header packets. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/956#issuecomment-346501729 ----==_mimepart_5a160ac570fac_69203fc6490baf2892498 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I recently implemented the header parsing logic f= or quic-go, such that it can handle both gQUIC and IETF QUIC. You might= find my summary of the different formats for the type byte useful: https://docs.google.com/docum= ent/d/162BtfR84c6xTvAG6AaPK0dXSQXKahMrtJOXxNnpcwDw/edit?usp=3Dsharing.<= /p>

The current packet header format has the nice property that it is possib= le to decide if the packet is a gQUIC or an IETF QUIC packet by just lookin= g at the type byte. This is possible due to the following properties:

for packets sent by the server

For packets sent by the server the client already knows the QUIC version= needed for parsing the packet, as soon as version negotiation is completed= . Therefore, the only requirement here is that the type byte used for the V= ersion Negotiation Packet in IETF QUIC is not used in gQUIC, and the type b= yte used for the gQUIC VNP is not used in IETF QUIC.
This property is guaranteed by the first bit of the type byte alone already= (0x80 is unset in gQUIC, and set for an IETF QUIC VNP).

for packets sent by the client

All gQUIC packets have bits 0x80 and 0x40 unset, and currently IETF QUIC= packets either have 0x80 set (for long headers) or 0x40 set (for short hea= ders, if connection ID omission is not allowed, which I assume is what serv= er implementations will do).
This property would be changed by this PR (because the connection ID bit is= inverted), so a server wouldn't be able to distinguish between gQUIC and s= hort header packets.

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In order to do that, you would have to associate the packet with a flow,= which would mean that the server would have to extract the connection ID f= rom the header first. This might or might not be possible, depending on how= we shift around the location of the connection ID.
Furthermore, this would have the not so nice property that packet handling = would not be truly stateless anymore (since you'd have to do lookups in the= connection maps).

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In this case, please, take this as an input for the updated write-up. Any endpoint that identifies connections using a Connection ID requires that Connection ID in packets, including ICMP Error packets. Hence, that endpoint will not only request the peer to send Connection IDs but will also include Connection IDs on outgoing packets (in case they result in an ICMP Error packet). Such ICMP Error packets are required for PMTU discovery, among other things,. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/953#issuecomment-346504948 ----==_mimepart_5a16100f197f9_5c403fdd88476f3021849e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

That's fine. In this case, please, take this as an input for the updated= write-up. Any endpoint that identifies connections using a Connection ID r= equires that Connection ID in packets, including ICMP Error packets. Hence,= that endpoint will not only request the peer to send Connection IDs but wi= ll also include Connection IDs on outgoing packets (in case they result in = an ICMP Error packet). Such ICMP Error packets are required for PMTU disco= very, among other things,.

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First, assume that you require a connection ID at the server. The gener= al case for packets sent by clients in gQUIC is 0b00pp1000. The change to = short headers in this PR makes the typical IETF QUIC type byte 0b00k111pp, = though obviously we don't make any promises about those 1 octets (and we wi= ll probably want to grease them).

One possible strategy we could pursue here is to disable greasing until = we wean people off gQUIC. Or - perhaps better - negotiate greasing. Actua= lly, I like that second idea, because it suits Colin's use case very nicely= .

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@mar= tinthomson: Right, I missed that part. Relying on bit 0x4 might be the = solution here.
It doesn't change your argument, but clients in gQUIC can set the Version F= lag, so the general case will be 0b00pp100v.

In general, I don't think greasing should be negotiated (we should alway= s grease as much as possible), but if that's the only way to make a transit= ion possible, this wouldn't be a bad option.

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= ----==_mimepart_5a1615cabafd_2bbe13fcc87322f38566ac-- From nobody Wed Nov 22 16:32:00 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 239EB126B6E for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2017 16:31:59 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.615 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.615 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4eOeE6HMPBB8 for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2017 16:31:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from o10.sgmail.github.com (o10.sgmail.github.com [167.89.101.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EEB1D1241FC for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2017 16:31:57 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=x6KVcZKh9nBDwl0FN+b4WNyaI2g=; b=H+D5Fmv+tsx4SU4U EixUvXJ6g56BbHoW+D+jBOS21cR6kkfs6rvk34EeBrC1gRDbcG9V/ftYbd7Q1d5t y6J8TU9Va9QYelIyLi+pEomBhxmEKzNyG+DUF/LMrAb1D3I0HAupixxsvJZ937g2 e4tmK8qqRLGIb7ef5TQ3qTU8B6I= Received: by filter1185p1mdw1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter1185p1mdw1-22295-5A1616FD-3 2017-11-23 00:31:57.270846617 +0000 UTC Received: from github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net [192.30.253.16]) by ismtpd0005p1iad2.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id -PrO8g1hSPSVgteS6pqo7w for ; Thu, 23 Nov 2017 00:31:57.050 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2017 00:31:57 +0000 (UTC) From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Renumber packet types and invert Connection ID Flag (#956) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5a1616fd1555_f913fb1c274cf3013554a"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org tracking: X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak00pd2ynMUkY1x61q/9RIUPraFzz85br33aqC AY4hvnspfNRjDZHmRCXrs/J8n7ge6D/pLbo/lXFX06gzp5Gj1XlHONTNkUpMRd3sXx4N4IGATq0BA0 PoTApJp3yKuOxXA2TElQ+Fmk2d9Q7T2fp5CmwyykGvdmpqLt/4JIlJTPYbEduaVvvwgqL1htMyPOlW g= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2017 00:31:59 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5a1616fd1555_f913fb1c274cf3013554a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I wouldn't have suggested negotiation if not for this realtime case. There, they probably want us to avoid using certain values (blame RFC 7983). Negotiation would be a solution to that problem, and as long as the overwhelming majority of QUIC traffic greased, then it would all work out. Of course, they negotiate sessions and could limit greasing to a narrower range of values. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/956#issuecomment-346508652 ----==_mimepart_5a1616fd1555_f913fb1c274cf3013554a Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I wouldn't have suggested negotiation if not for this realtime case. Th= ere, they probably want us to avoid using certain values (blame RFC 7983). = Negotiation would be a solution to that problem, and as long as the overwh= elming majority of QUIC traffic greased, then it would all work out. Of co= urse, they negotiate sessions and could limit greasing to a narrower range = of values.

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Right =E2=80=93 we likely want to grease by default, but have the abilit= y to disable/limit greasing for certain flows where we know the greasing wi= ll conflict with other uses of the port.

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Hm. That was the point of this Issue -- to declare that sending a Conne= ction ID despite of a permission not to do so is something that a server MA= Y do via normative language. The goal is to make sure that clients are not = surprised at all by this behavior (i.e. do not log warnings, etc).

An issue about this is more of an issue for the applicability draft. I'= ll raise it there.

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I'm fine to either listing 2 values, or introducing new transport parameter.
In my personal opinion, I'm lean to new transport parameter.

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----==_mimepart_5a165d1ed2533_168a3fc2c89f8f3811274e2-- From nobody Thu Nov 23 03:48:33 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41DFB1289C3 for ; Thu, 23 Nov 2017 03:48:32 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.799 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.799 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.199, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.001, NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Ptsl_A7-Nsqx for ; Thu, 23 Nov 2017 03:48:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from m69-169.mailgun.net (m69-169.mailgun.net [166.78.69.169]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EDA74124F57 for ; Thu, 23 Nov 2017 03:48:30 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha256; v=1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; q=dns/txt; s=mailo; t=1511437710; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-Type: Mime-Version: Subject: Message-ID: To: Reply-To: From: Date: Sender; bh=SXwcM74b6WefFOE7atY6GYRZexB5iiczEQlJLuo4kps=; b=yDk0gQE/5F9T1fGFBI3FyoXtxuMs0aalc2DrVLt4Z8lK9Lmkwkyu7cL5XvceXP08dpHCb+C4 0upwY1SvQDONCzLOBDimyzwLx3rxkPunL6/sonGAOh2jrxCsVCjYcLkQ1PWacrIWecx0HnSn 2vfI2aAcfB2fV7HyFFayeRAyGmg= Sender: martin.thomson=gmail.com@github.com X-Mailgun-Sending-Ip: 166.78.69.169 X-Mailgun-Sid: WyJhNzYyYiIsICJxdWljLWlzc3Vlc0BpZXRmLm9yZyIsICI0MGYiXQ== Received: from github.com (Unknown [192.30.252.45]) by mxa.mailgun.org with ESMTP id 5a16b58d.7f30781f8210-smtp-out-n01; Thu, 23 Nov 2017 11:48:29 -0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2017 03:48:29 -0800 From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: Martin Thomson To: quic-issues@ietf.org Message-ID: <5a16b58d578f4_4c663f9e3e28dc3470258@hookshot-fe3-cp1-prd.iad.github.net.mail> Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] 237345: This clarifies where PUSH_PROMISE can be sent and ... 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Thu, 23 Nov 2017 22:48:38.719 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2017 22:48:38 +0000 (UTC) From: Dmitri Tikhonov Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Renumber packet types and invert Connection ID Flag (#956) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5a1750469e55e_19913fd243dd2f3428739b"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: dtikhonov X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org tracking: X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak2IJQAKDRTRb69Ui6KJiNUfrSmgclQSB6IfMw CXpJwomqRY4P7S4AhaTvpiqHOJPZh3KHAY+m3YplfxvtaNvObxPPTeCl9eQ06bhBybK/aG3V4xoH+4 E3h1+arGStMip2hj7k79mIeIqq/N5uHg4DjKIDyhm1A/AuMUKczSO7vUCEtyykEhmjEn7r+jc7qhza M= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2017 22:48:42 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5a1750469e55e_19913fd243dd2f3428739b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I did a [write-up about this](https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/quic/current/msg02009.html) some time ago. I think this change will make it easier to differentiate between gQUIC and QUIC. Types 0x1F, 0x1E, and 0x1D would give us the following gQUIC interpretations, in order: 1. 2-byte packet number; connection ID, nonce, public reset, version bits set. 1. 2-byte packet number; connection ID, nonce, public reset bits set. 1. 2-byte packet number; connection ID, nonce, version bits set. gQUIC public resets do not have two-byte packet numbers. Likewise, gQUIC version negotiation packets are unlikely to have two-byte packet numbers. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/956#issuecomment-346706234 ----==_mimepart_5a1750469e55e_19913fd243dd2f3428739b Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I did a write-up about this some time ago. I thin= k this change will make it easier to differentiate between gQUIC and QUIC. = Types 0x1F, 0x1E, and 0x1D would give us the following gQUIC interpretatio= ns, in order:

  1. 2-byte packet number; connection ID, nonce, public reset, version bits = set.
  2. 2-byte packet number; connection ID, nonce, public reset bits set.
  3. 2-byte packet number; connection ID, nonce, version bits set.

gQUIC public resets do not have two-byte packet numbers. Likewise, gQUI= C version negotiation packets are unlikely to have two-byte packet numbers.=

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That's not a huge benefit, but given that it is no more vulnerable to downgrade attack than before, it seems like a worthwhile thing to do. Note that this will have the effect of violating the terms of the version downgrade contract. I do this knowing that this is still very much in development and that no sane person would deploy this protocol in its current form expecting it to be secure. Conveniently, it appears that endpoints that support the newer version will not be exposed to downgrade, only those that support versions prior to the change (and even then, it's only if they can cause the server to emit a transport parameter that looks like the current version. That is possible, but for QUIC version 4 only (assuming we retain the same basic format for that long). Closes #710. 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This makes it possible for a client to use substantially-similar versions of
QUIC without having to regenerate a ClientHello. That's not a huge benefit,
but given that it is no more vulnerable to downgrade attack than before, it
seems like a worthwhile thing to do.

Note that this will have the effect of violating the terms of the version
downgrade contract. I do this knowing that this is still very much in
development and that no sane person would deploy this protocol in its current
form expecting it to be secure. Conveniently, it appears that endpoints that
support the newer version will not be exposed to downgrade, only those that
support versions prior to the change (and even then, it's only if they can
cause the server to emit a transport parameter that looks like the current
version. That is possible, but for QUIC version 4 only (assuming we retain the
same basic format for that long).

Closes #710.

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  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/959

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  • Move negotiated_version

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I think @martinthomson intended to close this ticket with #957 (looks like GH failed to do it automatically).

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
 : The initial maximum stream ID parameter contains the initial maximum stream
-  number the peer may initiate, encoded as an unsigned 32-bit integer.  This is
-  equivalent to sending a MAX_STREAM_ID ({{frame-max-stream-id}}) immediately
-  after completing the handshake.
+  number the peer may initiate for bidirectional streams, encoded as an unsigned
+  32-bit integer.  This value MUST be a valid bidirectional stream ID for a
+  peer-initiated stream (that is, a server includes a value that have the least

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The slight niggle that I have is the phrase "this is equivalent to sendi= ng a MAX_STREAM_ID". In spirit I think this is true, in practical terms, th= e closest MAX_STREAM_ID gets is a 30-bit varint. Transport params cannot ex= press the full range streams IDs permitted by MAX_STREAM_ID.

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----==_mimepart_5a18842c3e59f_4def3ffbb6ff6f30858cb-- From nobody Sun Nov 26 18:57:46 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8CE6126C22 for ; Sun, 26 Nov 2017 18:57:44 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.799 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.799 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.199, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.001, NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id s51iDP56JbqC for ; Sun, 26 Nov 2017 18:57:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from m69-170.mailgun.net (m69-170.mailgun.net [166.78.69.170]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 802551200F1 for ; Sun, 26 Nov 2017 18:57:43 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha256; v=1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; q=dns/txt; s=mailo; t=1511751462; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-Type: Mime-Version: Subject: Message-ID: To: Reply-To: From: Date: Sender; bh=OQ2gNMp2+MWnM8v+K+ixOJjxM0BxzYvg31ok3NZSpWY=; b=niHTf+nXhGw+tJvyzg3jH5nLrTd80a2wgznmBes32A3uXm66gAuMZyr4ZNE3kNd2xU3gNRl7 QFpTiiSga+kRQdQ7B8hB7CH6BgjXx7XkmrQVrFYANG0m9s2iMW1SGpKqXS5f8IDA+jTkV3t/ fR69RuV3ERlqb3zjXxq/vQb6QmI= Sender: martin.thomson=gmail.com@github.com X-Mailgun-Sending-Ip: 166.78.69.170 X-Mailgun-Sid: WyJhNzYyYiIsICJxdWljLWlzc3Vlc0BpZXRmLm9yZyIsICI0MGYiXQ== Received: from github.com (Unknown [192.30.252.45]) by mxa.mailgun.org with ESMTP id 5a1b7f26.7f7d302930c0-smtp-out-n03; Mon, 27 Nov 2017 02:57:42 -0000 (UTC) Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2017 18:57:42 -0800 From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: Martin Thomson To: quic-issues@ietf.org Message-ID: <5a1b7f26c570_78dc3fafe5b77c24539de@hookshot-fe3-cp1-prd.iad.github.net.mail> Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] fbfff1: Make lint faster. 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It runs `make -k lint` in CI to avoid having partial results reported in CI. ----==_mimepart_5a1b7f26c1b0_78dc3fafe5b77c2453838-- From nobody Sun Nov 26 18:58:07 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76BD5126C22 for ; Sun, 26 Nov 2017 18:58:05 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.182 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.182 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-2.8, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id EMkZnt9kxjsj for ; Sun, 26 Nov 2017 18:58:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from o5.sgmail.github.com (o5.sgmail.github.com [192.254.113.10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D50041200F1 for ; Sun, 26 Nov 2017 18:58:03 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=o5zQKAiHDv+vtroA8NdW8zYiplY=; b=WdLt1m+FnCfL9V2/ UwA8sBAvbxzISv2t0Cx5j4LsUrceNyoChASPKZE6kiM0Dv/iBvmkZZPshEFqfmu2 IFTtRb/C+Epn//+nx1WQsnpfQ72s5sTdK11hOp+5iHwdkXPZ9ldSWdqiZ2Xd88AF XJWe30ece9kHu+bYD/2aHZH8KDE= Received: by filter0582p1las1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0582p1las1-3400-5A1B7F3A-E 2017-11-27 02:58:02.555457153 +0000 UTC Received: from github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net [192.30.253.16]) by ismtpd0022p1iad2.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id 1xAZeh3wSpmVKbET01x4qQ for ; Mon, 27 Nov 2017 02:58:02.314 +0000 (UTC) Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2017 02:58:02 +0000 (UTC) From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Make lint fast again (#938) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5a1b7f3a5019b_195f53f85822c6f2c20823"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org tracking: X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak1UnKo6nrJlN62OGhBIeQQEYRSC+uujfo/fqG D82SE+D4eycpbCRhrkQB5ttohkAhS7dIT6ImO5aPm8teUvDHrbLQQPKgHdATVID+3Fws99UF1jNb3c jzamo9POv1lGNT0mn9Pxe+rQOco47cibe9Qg/e0fEDu3bsETK5uQdqYliOqUqVhCSNZDARDHTbDbTZ 4= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2017 02:58:05 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5a1b7f3a5019b_195f53f85822c6f2c20823 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I don't think that optimizing for re-runs in CI is worthwhile. 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I don't think that optimizing for re-runs in CI is worthwhile. And maybe you misunderstood my suggestion. This is much more complicated than I think we need. I'll show you what I mean with another PR.

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I'll note that the comment says this adds text on why stopping and then resuming sending older ack blocks is not recommended in response to #917, but it doesn't. Did you mean to add that text?

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Ok, I've fixed the nits that I noted in my review, and I'm merging. > allow any acked packet to be reneged, greatly simplifying implementations on both sides and reducing memory pressure on the sender. ### More ACK Ranges QUIC supports up to 256 ACK ranges, opposed to TCP's 3 SACK ranges. In high -loss environments, this speeds recovery. +loss environments, this speeds recovery, reduces spuriuos retransmits, typo: "spurious" > @@ -194,8 +194,14 @@ round-trip time (RTT) is critical to these algorithms and is described first. ## Computing the RTT estimate -(To be filled) +RTT is calculated when an ACK frame arrives by computing the difference +between the current time and the time the largest newly acked packet was sent. +If no packets are newly acknowledged, RTT cannot be calculated. When RTT is +calculated, the ack delay field from the ACK frame SHOULD be subtracted from +the RTT as long as the result is positive. Let's add this text in and open an issue. GQUIC currently subtracts this from RTT measurements, but if the peer's clock is off, this ack delay could be arbitrarily large, leading to a poor RTT estimate. Perhaps this should be protected by the measured minRTT as the min... but let's discuss that on an issue separately. > @@ -292,13 +298,12 @@ conditions: * If there are more than one unacknowledged packets, PTO SHOULD be scheduled for max(2*SRTT, 10ms). -* If RTO is earlier, schedule a TLP alarm in its place. That is, PTO SHOULD be - scheduled for min(RTO, PTO). +* If RTO (RTO, {{rto}}) is earlier, schedule a TLP alarm in its place. That is, Why the "RTO" inside the parenthesis? Did you mean to say "If RTO {{rto}} is earlier"? > @@ -308,10 +313,8 @@ A PTO value of at least 2*SRTT ensures that the ACK is overdue. Using a PTO of exactly 1*SRTT may generate spurious probes, and 2*SRTT is simply the next integral value of RTT. -(TODO: These values of 2 and 1.5 are a bit arbitrary. Reconsider these.) - -If the Retransmission Timeout (RTO, {{rto}}) period is smaller than the computed -PTO, then a PTO is scheduled for the smaller RTO period. +The values of 2 and 1.5 are based on the TLP draft, but implementations MAY cite TLP draft -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/921#pullrequestreview-79424654 ----==_mimepart_5a1d2522c853f_25463fa2f2038f34214492 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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Ok, I've fixed the nits that I noted in my review, and I'm merging.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

>  allow any acked packet to be reneged, greatly simplifying implementations on
 both sides and reducing memory pressure on the sender.
 
 ### More ACK Ranges
 
 QUIC supports up to 256 ACK ranges, opposed to TCP's 3 SACK ranges.  In high
-loss environments, this speeds recovery.
+loss environments, this speeds recovery, reduces spuriuos retransmits,

typo: "spurious"

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -194,8 +194,14 @@ round-trip time (RTT) is critical to these algorithms and is described first.
 
 ## Computing the RTT estimate
 
-(To be filled)
+RTT is calculated when an ACK frame arrives by computing the difference
+between the current time and the time the largest newly acked packet was sent.
+If no packets are newly acknowledged, RTT cannot be calculated. When RTT is
+calculated, the ack delay field from the ACK frame SHOULD be subtracted from
+the RTT as long as the result is positive.

Let's add this text in and open an issue. GQUIC currently subtracts this from RTT measurements, but if the peer's clock is off, this ack delay could be arbitrarily large, leading to a poor RTT estimate. Perhaps this should be protected by the measured minRTT as the min... but let's discuss that on an issue separately.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -292,13 +298,12 @@ conditions:
 * If there are more than one unacknowledged packets, PTO SHOULD be scheduled for
   max(2*SRTT, 10ms).
 
-* If RTO is earlier, schedule a TLP alarm in its place. That is, PTO SHOULD be
-  scheduled for min(RTO, PTO).
+* If RTO (RTO, {{rto}}) is earlier, schedule a TLP alarm in its place. That is,

Why the "RTO" inside the parenthesis? Did you mean to say "If RTO {{rto}} is earlier"?

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -308,10 +313,8 @@ A PTO value of at least 2*SRTT ensures that the ACK is overdue. Using a PTO of
 exactly 1*SRTT may generate spurious probes, and 2*SRTT is simply the next
 integral value of RTT.
 
-(TODO: These values of 2 and 1.5 are a bit arbitrary. Reconsider these.)
-
-If the Retransmission Timeout (RTO, {{rto}}) period is smaller than the computed
-PTO, then a PTO is scheduled for the smaller RTO period.
+The values of 2 and 1.5 are based on the TLP draft, but implementations MAY

cite TLP draft

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The recovery draft (and GQUIC) use ack delay in SRTT computations, but with the caveat that "the ack delay field from the ACK frame SHOULD be subtracted from the RTT as long as the result is positive."

The ack delay may be too large if the peer's clock was adjusted, but it can also happen if the peer uses a very granular clock, which can lead to arbitrarily large ack delays.

There are a few ways to deal with this, including:

  1. current text, which simply drops the problematic ack delays,
  2. ignore ack delays from a peer that screws up once (ack delay > measured RTT),
  3. ignore RTT sample that contains problematic ack delay.

(1) is a bit aggressive. (2) is conservative: If ack delay is screwed up then you won't always be able to detect it, but once can be treated as a signal to not trust this peer's ack delays. (3) has been proposed but I'm not sure it addresses the right thing -- the RTT sample isn't bad, the ack delay is.

I'm leaning towards (2).

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----==_mimepart_5a1d27a1c3ff5_4d9d3fba5e320f3431128c-- From nobody Tue Nov 28 05:34:34 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D98C4126CC7 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 2017 05:34:32 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.019 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.019 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LsrsXjQWBonz for ; Tue, 28 Nov 2017 05:34:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from o8.sgmail.github.com (o8.sgmail.github.com [167.89.101.199]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 08F931243F6 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 2017 05:34:30 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=tyIghMAPmfV924uc1upm9MGSUAk=; b=TkFdq2SJjuOycm3m lLoHw4FRxQdkU5Do/b5phIdJrncid8TC+fBhsBCW1XN4IJIJW834AQyl4aX4IhtO IowzLwDE3DPC+HTqpti2ug84E8zey/3oj7GBALWHgysmYZUCKCWhrY9S9mORnMF8 faJJoYYiiWNcKHKO5w6PtU5E4mA= Received: by filter0625p1iad2.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0625p1iad2-27607-5A1D65E4-1A 2017-11-28 13:34:28.89113832 +0000 UTC Received: from github-smtp2b-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (github-smtp2b-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net [192.30.253.17]) by ismtpd0002p1iad1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id eLhxpR7tTqyYy_FyIe21jA for ; Tue, 28 Nov 2017 13:34:28.754 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2017 13:34:29 +0000 (UTC) From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Ack delay in SRTT computation (#961) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5a1d65e485897_79143fb29129cf38193744"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org tracking: X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak1wEsv7F9yp/W3i/mB6wYnCyh60mfcFDw+VzE lU3mqIWulz+GNjQEHhv5UTSjlI9pEiGUQatnZVFUKB0MSKKJjiz9424HMbNCNyLYxMzrcnF0sKtYAv /MASfT9wW9neHPGXbBoxBqfdktsGQipWlk0gteGAijhub0vk/pe2kMri+pc9HHTZ33WGxWPFBqcvDA I= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2017 13:34:33 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5a1d65e485897_79143fb29129cf38193744 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If your first theory is correct, this is due to clock jump, then 2 seems like the wrong approach, since it means one bad ack delay is likely to be isolated. 4. An improvement to #1 might be to ignore the ack delay any time the resulting RTT is less than min_rtt. We'd have to define min_rtt, which we currently don't, but that puts a tighter bound on reasonable use of ack delay than just 'must result in a positive RTT signal'. This makes it much harder to intentionally use the ack delay to manipulate the peer's SRTT, which seems nice. So I lean towards 4 and I think my least favorite is 4, the more I think about it, because I fear going a long time without an RTT sample, and the goal should be to never be worse than TCP's RTT signaling. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/961#issuecomment-347524701 ----==_mimepart_5a1d65e485897_79143fb29129cf38193744 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

If your first theory is correct, this is due to clock jump, then 2 seems= like the wrong approach, since it means one bad ack delay is likely to be = isolated.

  1. An improvement to #1 mi= ght be to ignore the ack delay any time the resulting RTT is less than min_= rtt. We'd have to define min_rtt, which we currently don't, but that puts = a tighter bound on reasonable use of ack delay than just 'must result in a = positive RTT signal'. This makes it much harder to intentionally use the a= ck delay to manipulate the peer's SRTT, which seems nice.

So I lean towards 4 and I think my least favorite is 4, the more I think= about it, because I fear going a long time without an RTT sample, and the = goal should be to never be worse than TCP's RTT signaling.

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One more improvement could be to limit the ack delay to the max_ack_delay, once it's communicated via transport params. #912

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Instead of using time_of_last_sent_packet, handshake packets should use time_of_last_sent_handshake_packet(to be defined), because if the handshake hasn't completed, protected packets will not be acknowledged, because they cannot be decrypted and processed. The only other valid frames to send pre-handshake are acks and connection close. Acks do not cause an acknowledgement and connection closes are terminal.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -701,7 +701,8 @@ Pseudocode for SetLossDetectionAlarm follows:
       alarm_duration = max(alarm_duration, kMinRTOTimeout)
       alarm_duration = alarm_duration * (2 ^ rto_count)
 
-    loss_detection_alarm.set(now + alarm_duration)
+    loss_detection_alarm.set(time_of_last_sent_packet

That's a good point, given the other packets are not decryptable, and hence will not generate an acknowledgement until the handshake completes, #962 filed.

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My experience is that ICMP is typically implemented by 5-tuple and given= 5-tuples are usually stable over a short period of time, so nothing specia= l needs to be done there.

For example, in GQUIC, we do see write errors on the server side when we= write a packet that's too large, and those appear to be caused by the Linu= x kernel converting the ICMP message into a constraint on the max packet si= ze.

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I think this change doesn't change how difficult it is to support GQUIC = and IETF QUIC at once.

The fact we're not moving the connection ID really helps, since we can a= lways lookup by connection ID first, and then if nothing is found, try to p= arse it as a handshake packet that creates a new connection.

On the client side, the main issue would be version negotiation, since f= or every other packet, the client knows the version in use. This VN codepo= int is not used in GQUIC, so we should be all set.

But to pop the stack, I'm trying to walk through why the heuristics appr= oach outlined in the draft isn't sufficient in practice. The negatives lik= e not being able to run DTLS and QUIC at the same time on the same 5-tuple = seem like non-issues. Can someone outline what the issues are that motivat= e this change?
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-aboba-= avtcore-quic-multiplexing-01#section-2.3

The issue of greasing is real. Unfortunately, I think we may need a way= to communicate codepoints not to grease for WebRTC, GQUIC, and other futur= e use cases.

If a server is running GQUIC and IETF QUIC at once, then it is actually = using all the codepoints, just for two different protocols, so the space is= effectively being greased.

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If you are routing by ConnectionID, you need to deliver that ICMP to the server that sent the QUIC packet that caused the ICMP error packet. The 5-tuple will not help w/o a ConnectionID in the message.

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----==_mimepart_5a1dab80988ff_392e3fc99aa36f301297e8-- From nobody Tue Nov 28 10:43:19 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B573E126CE8 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 2017 10:43:17 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.395 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.395 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-2.8, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id sQba6S6PXEf1 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 2017 10:43:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from o6.sgmail.github.com (o6.sgmail.github.com [192.254.113.101]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4218C126557 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 2017 10:43:16 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=Iv17fYSPkafjSMBrfU/Ofd6Y+Gc=; b=dNYCBb5PGFK0sSoF AFnJS6f31Y8oC+Jjg8bY3aH/tY9CE+wsx8jzM8WaanPvRJhQ4PUm0Fe4MkjRMnTD rOT8U2kx3rYob2++rPvwh9MjQHpZbf2gptL+050fd2K7cfFa1KJQL00KWdPbWe69 u2Gp2BIFln9PXlIlhe8qYpeBHyE= Received: by filter0636p1iad2.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0636p1iad2-27849-5A1DAE42-B 2017-11-28 18:43:14.61143773 +0000 UTC Received: from github-smtp2b-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (github-smtp2b-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net [192.30.253.17]) by ismtpd0001p1iad1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id 9Vryc1BpRFaVWoqUDKyhNA for ; Tue, 28 Nov 2017 18:43:14.440 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2017 18:43:14 +0000 (UTC) From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Make lint faster. (#960) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5a1dae404e7fb_13e793f9b4f330f34318054"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org tracking: X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak3jsGRW6OogmXBXzGqd+bQab6ZSx3bhlt3yKv Cml2qOl94kpInla+253vG1ZAC+TFn4z67wpFU2ie1YL9f2VvMzcZzsTAHlz6opxTRDpJ5wZHocF2kz 2NlH5cR2dz+eTnSxR3pNvCZtnzk4HJ2k6aCbDj02/XP/mYNNKWrKarO/pu7aAKj2o+7+Ci7gSg3pXO A= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2017 18:43:18 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5a1dae404e7fb_13e793f9b4f330f34318054 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I agree with you that this is simpler, but I'm not sure it gives the same advantages, either. The modified time on a file seems to be the time the branch was checked out, if there was any difference in the file between the old and new branches. That means this solution forces re-linting for the simple case of hopping back and forth between two branches while working on multiple PRs. Mine does keep more state, but as a result is pretty good about not re-linting files if they've even been linted in that state. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/960#issuecomment-347623031 ----==_mimepart_5a1dae404e7fb_13e793f9b4f330f34318054 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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Can you not fall back to 5-tuple routing when connection ID is not present?

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One small suggestion, but looks good.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
 : The initial maximum stream ID parameter contains the initial maximum stream
-  number the peer may initiate, encoded as an unsigned 32-bit integer.  This is
-  equivalent to sending a MAX_STREAM_ID ({{frame-max-stream-id}}) immediately
-  after completing the handshake.
+  number the peer may initiate for bidirectional streams, encoded as an unsigned
+  32-bit integer.  This value MUST be a valid bidirectional stream ID for a
+  peer-initiated stream (that is, a server includes a value that have the least

I think the phrasing below is a bit cleaner, so I'd copy that. "that is, the two least significant bits are set to 0 by a server and to 1 by a client"

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----==_mimepart_5a1dd00bbfacb_60333fcd624f8f341338ce-- From nobody Tue Nov 28 13:08:20 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 630461243FE for ; Tue, 28 Nov 2017 13:08:19 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.798 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.798 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.199, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.001, NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9UZOTCvENh5f for ; Tue, 28 Nov 2017 13:08:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from m69-170.mailgun.net (m69-170.mailgun.net [166.78.69.170]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 83EE8124205 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 2017 13:08:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha256; v=1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; q=dns/txt; s=mailo; t=1511903297; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-Type: Mime-Version: Subject: Message-ID: To: Reply-To: From: Date: Sender; bh=i9JOsSIpZ90Oy0jg9jc4NqiCXPXRNOUuzQ/y+dpZ/Vc=; b=RRCp81PDNk+yL/asf0lFh2V0unCKeFvNT7YWzS41ZatuoxsRD7Rwr9Iih2pagA48DIgMDtcE /aey1KYkdWqDDb7/QLV2MWp+qRpMDmeAdInq3LkrusYnEndsnPynevKULB7fpHiWL7mAXIUp cvOeCoTYrMAOc2mPr2ZzhS/yU/g= Sender: martin.thomson=gmail.com@github.com X-Mailgun-Sending-Ip: 166.78.69.170 X-Mailgun-Sid: WyJhNzYyYiIsICJxdWljLWlzc3Vlc0BpZXRmLm9yZyIsICI0MGYiXQ== Received: from github.com (Unknown [192.30.252.45]) by mxa.mailgun.org with ESMTP id 5a1dd009.7f4ca036e270-smtp-out-n02; Tue, 28 Nov 2017 21:07:21 -0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2017 13:07:20 -0800 From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: Martin Thomson To: quic-issues@ietf.org Message-ID: <5a1dd008e6229_64e73f8ed1a8bc3c217c4@hookshot-fe3-cp1-prd.iad.github.net.mail> Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] 307070: Allow handshake errors to be reported with CONNECT... 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The set of packet types is version-dependent, except that Version Negotiation has a fixed packet type across all versions. We could make packet types entirely version-dependent by a simple change: Version Negotiation packets always indicate a version of '0', and the type field is randomized on send / ignored on receipt.

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If we land #939 first, we have the option of saying that version 0 packets don't have a packet number and saving a few bytes, but the question is open whether we want to have what becomes a third packet header.

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----==_mimepart_5a1df6496388_2daa3f8a3a178f28958ea-- From nobody Tue Nov 28 16:23:06 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AB9A127735 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 2017 16:23:05 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.019 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.019 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xLok_7C36Y8q for ; Tue, 28 Nov 2017 16:23:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from o11.sgmail.github.com (o11.sgmail.github.com [167.89.101.202]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E5BDC127136 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 2017 16:23:03 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=sfO23MNv3ssD75k78yevKHJWbqs=; b=t4T6JvnEuEjTWsV0 Zq4/0FnFF5CpCZCtxRbFsVd5E06xxrQbmJb3vIy0I0BbU2ExicsdZEazfRdR7Wqg cCvrhEbqVuQF7kSrvTUzCRtIaKozAyeYJpZd1qNTBs3FAA8RnqC9W19yiY5fJuaN hfwqH6hdwO67GBcT6uxk1phOEbw= Received: by filter1178p1mdw1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter1178p1mdw1-31182-5A1DFDE7-3 2017-11-29 00:23:03.177409619 +0000 UTC Received: from github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net [192.30.253.16]) by ismtpd0006p1iad1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id g6XoUVj2SUuTqgHH9w5rIw for ; Wed, 29 Nov 2017 00:23:03.149 +0000 (UTC) Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2017 00:23:03 +0000 (UTC) From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Ack delay in SRTT computation (#961) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5a1dfde7dcb6_43e83fb14994cf3424078a"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org tracking: X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak00kb6V2y0z+FDm52AUZ/gxGGOdcuU6nPjPef 29w3YAHxlUl0U/HgGNYknGHR6AHJk3dpQ+2Eh58o6gkMx6htDMj+QftoeyTWeiXAfUOTpQVv+9c6wU tqd8cAxH1ZshXSCx0vA3C6m3XHAUNUkYQEoZpTEYZOGtNNB1qwgCkm8cqCAZK+aHoBIkTtR6YyNClS w= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2017 00:23:05 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5a1dfde7dcb6_43e83fb14994cf3424078a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I actually like the fourth option here. min_rtt is a value worth tracking, and it could still be calculated based on actual flight times (i.e., the value before subtracting the ack delay). Then you only train min_rtt on a value that is harder to fake. It only leaves you open to the peer sending opportunistic acks, essentially, which is pretty risky for an implementation that does that. Then your RTT calculations can't drive RTT below that floor. You still have to guard against negative values, which might still happen, but that guard might be coincident with the min_rtt guard. Why we insist on using wall clocks for this sort of thing is beyond me, but that's the state of the world today. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/961#issuecomment-347710212 ----==_mimepart_5a1dfde7dcb6_43e83fb14994cf3424078a Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I actually like the fourth option here. min_rtt is a value worth tracki= ng, and it could still be calculated based on actual flight times (i.e., th= e value before subtracting the ack delay). Then you only train min_rtt on = a value that is harder to fake. It only leaves you open to the peer sendin= g opportunistic acks, essentially, which is pretty risky for an implementat= ion that does that. Then your RTT calculations can't drive RTT below that = floor. You still have to guard against negative values, which might still = happen, but that guard might be coincident with the min_rtt guard.

Why we insist on using wall clocks for this sort of thing is beyond me, = but that's the state of the world today.

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I think that it makes sense to continue to mark Version Negotiation as l= ong. Otherwise there is some amount of guessing required to find the Versi= on field. That suggests that it continues to use that bit, but that doesn'= t necessarily constrain us to the use of a particular type beyond that.

The expected order of operations for receipt of a packet is to check the= long header bit, then to check the version. Once that is done, we could s= ay that the type is ignored. That means we could make it entirely randomiz= ed (which effectively destroys our future ability to use those bits), a spe= cific value (which would allow us to generate other signals for clients tha= t support future versions if we specified that packets are ignore if other = values are found there), or define a more specific scheme.

I don't think that there is any value in versioning version negotiation.= That way leads to madness. I'm ambivalent about random vs. specific valu= e.

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Closes #864, #850.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +The initial value for packet number MUST be selected randomly from a range
+between 0 and 2^32 - 1024.  This value is selected so that Initial and Handshake
+packets exercise as many possible values for the Packet Number field as
+possible.
+
+Limiting the range allows both for loss of packets and for any stateless
+exchanges.  Packet numbers are incremented for subsequent packets, but packet
+loss and stateless handling can both mean that the first packet sent by an
+endpoint isn't necessarily the first packet received by its peer.  The first
+packet received by a peer cannot be 2^32 or greater or the recipient will
+incorrectly assume a packet number that is 2^32 values lower and discard the
+packet.
+
+Use of a secure random number generator {{?RFC4086}} is not necessary for
+generating the initial packet number, nor is it necessary that the value be
+uniformly distributed.

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@janaiyengar approved this pull request.

LGTM, modulo one comment.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +possible.
+
+Limiting the range allows both for loss of packets and for any stateless
+exchanges.  Packet numbers are incremented for subsequent packets, but packet
+loss and stateless handling can both mean that the first packet sent by an
+endpoint isn't necessarily the first packet received by its peer.  The first
+packet received by a peer cannot be 2^32 or greater or the recipient will
+incorrectly assume a packet number that is 2^32 values lower and discard the
+packet.
+
+Use of a secure random number generator {{?RFC4086}} is not necessary for
+generating the initial packet number, nor is it necessary that the value be
+uniformly distributed.
+
+Packets with the long header include the low 32-bits of the packet number.
+Packets that use the short header can use a shorter packet number encoding.

These last two sentences seem out of place. This section is about Initial packet number.

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Sorry, one more comment. > +possible. + +Limiting the range allows both for loss of packets and for any stateless +exchanges. Packet numbers are incremented for subsequent packets, but packet +loss and stateless handling can both mean that the first packet sent by an +endpoint isn't necessarily the first packet received by its peer. The first +packet received by a peer cannot be 2^32 or greater or the recipient will +incorrectly assume a packet number that is 2^32 values lower and discard the +packet. + +Use of a secure random number generator {{?RFC4086}} is not necessary for +generating the initial packet number, nor is it necessary that the value be +uniformly distributed. + +Packets with the long header include the low 32-bits of the packet number. +Packets that use the short header can use a shorter packet number encoding. Never mind. This seems fine. > @@ -743,14 +743,25 @@ have special rules for populating the packet number field. ### Initial Packet Number {#initial-packet-number} -The initial value for packet number MUST be selected from an uniform random -distribution between 0 and 2^31-1. That is, the lower 31 bits of the packet -number are randomized. {{?RFC4086}} provides guidance on the generation of -random values. - -The first set of packets sent by an endpoint MUST include the low 32-bits of the -packet number. Once any packet has been acknowledged, subsequent packets can -use a shorter packet number encoding. +The initial value for packet number MUST be selected randomly from a range +between 0 and 2^32 - 1024. This value is selected so that Initial and Handshake Is this inclusive of 0 and 2 ^ 32 - 1024? I would say yes, and I don't actually care, but the spec should say it. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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Sorry, one more comment.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +possible.
+
+Limiting the range allows both for loss of packets and for any stateless
+exchanges.  Packet numbers are incremented for subsequent packets, but packet
+loss and stateless handling can both mean that the first packet sent by an
+endpoint isn't necessarily the first packet received by its peer.  The first
+packet received by a peer cannot be 2^32 or greater or the recipient will
+incorrectly assume a packet number that is 2^32 values lower and discard the
+packet.
+
+Use of a secure random number generator {{?RFC4086}} is not necessary for
+generating the initial packet number, nor is it necessary that the value be
+uniformly distributed.
+
+Packets with the long header include the low 32-bits of the packet number.
+Packets that use the short header can use a shorter packet number encoding.

Never mind. This seems fine.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -743,14 +743,25 @@ have special rules for populating the packet number field.
 
 ### Initial Packet Number {#initial-packet-number}
 
-The initial value for packet number MUST be selected from an uniform random
-distribution between 0 and 2^31-1.  That is, the lower 31 bits of the packet
-number are randomized.  {{?RFC4086}} provides guidance on the generation of
-random values.
-
-The first set of packets sent by an endpoint MUST include the low 32-bits of the
-packet number.  Once any packet has been acknowledged, subsequent packets can
-use a shorter packet number encoding.
+The initial value for packet number MUST be selected randomly from a range
+between 0 and 2^32 - 1024.  This value is selected so that Initial and Handshake

Is this inclusive of 0 and 2 ^ 32 - 1024? I would say yes, and I don't actually care, but the spec should say it.

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You also need to change text in Section 5.3 that currently states that packet number is echoed in VN packets.

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The Version Negotiation packet is a response to a client packet that contains a version that is not supported by the server. -The packet number, connection ID and version fields echo corresponding values -from the triggering client packet. This allows clients some assurance that the +The connection ID and version fields echo corresponding values from the +triggering client packet. This allows clients some assurance that the server received the packet and that the Version Negotiation packet was not carried in a packet with a spoofed source address. I would add something like "The packet number field SHOULD be set to 0 and will be ignored by the receiver." > @@ -940,9 +940,8 @@ successfully receives a response or it abandons the connection attempt. ### Handling Version Negotiation Packets {#handle-vn} When the client receives a Version Negotiation packet, it first checks that the -packet number and connection ID match the values the client sent in a previous -packet on the same connection. If this check fails, the packet MUST be -discarded. +packet number is 0 and the connection ID matches the connection ID the client I don't think you need to check the packet number being 0. It's enough to check the connection ID and I would ignore the packet number at the receiver. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -515,8 +515,8 @@ A Version Negotiation packet has long headers with a type value of 0x01 and is
 sent only by servers.  The Version Negotiation packet is a response to a client
 packet that contains a version that is not supported by the server.
 
-The packet number, connection ID and version fields echo corresponding values
-from the triggering client packet.  This allows clients some assurance that the
+The connection ID and version fields echo corresponding values from the
+triggering client packet.  This allows clients some assurance that the
 server received the packet and that the Version Negotiation packet was not
 carried in a packet with a spoofed source address.

I would add something like "The packet number field SHOULD be set to 0 and will be ignored by the receiver."

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -940,9 +940,8 @@ successfully receives a response or it abandons the connection attempt.
 ### Handling Version Negotiation Packets {#handle-vn}
 
 When the client receives a Version Negotiation packet, it first checks that the
-packet number and connection ID match the values the client sent in a previous
-packet on the same connection.  If this check fails, the packet MUST be
-discarded.
+packet number is 0 and the connection ID matches the connection ID the client

I don't think you need to check the packet number being 0. It's enough to check the connection ID and I would ignore the packet number at the receiver.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -515,8 +515,8 @@ A Version Negotiation packet has long headers with a type value of 0x01 and is
 sent only by servers.  The Version Negotiation packet is a response to a client
 packet that contains a version that is not supported by the server.
 
-The packet number, connection ID and version fields echo corresponding values
-from the triggering client packet.  This allows clients some assurance that the
+The connection ID and version fields echo corresponding values from the
+triggering client packet.  This allows clients some assurance that the
 server received the packet and that the Version Negotiation packet was not
 carried in a packet with a spoofed source address.

I think it's fine not to check the packet number(as updated), but if so, then advising what to set there seems unnecessary?

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@janaiyengar commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -515,8 +515,8 @@ A Version Negotiation packet has long headers with a type value of 0x01 and is
 sent only by servers.  The Version Negotiation packet is a response to a client
 packet that contains a version that is not supported by the server.
 
-The packet number, connection ID and version fields echo corresponding values
-from the triggering client packet.  This allows clients some assurance that the
+The connection ID and version fields echo corresponding values from the
+triggering client packet.  This allows clients some assurance that the
 server received the packet and that the Version Negotiation packet was not
 carried in a packet with a spoofed source address.

The sender has to put something in the packet number, so I think it's better to be explicit about what it should do.

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@janaiyengar approved this pull request.

One comment pending -- I think it's better to specify what a sender should do, since it's better to be explicit, and you don't want to have to read about receiver behavior to infer what a sender should do -- but LGTM otherwise.

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Packet numbers are incremented for subsequent packets, but packet +loss and stateless handling can both mean that the first packet sent by an +endpoint isn't necessarily the first packet received by its peer. The first +packet received by a peer cannot be 2^32 or greater or the recipient will +incorrectly assume a packet number that is 2^32 values lower and discard the +packet. + +Use of a secure random number generator {{?RFC4086}} is not necessary for +generating the initial packet number, nor is it necessary that the value be +uniformly distributed. + +Packets with the long header include the low 32-bits of the packet number. +Packets that use the short header can use a shorter packet number encoding. Sure, I'll delete those. I was trying to fix a paragraph that wasn't right in the first place. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +possible.
+
+Limiting the range allows both for loss of packets and for any stateless
+exchanges.  Packet numbers are incremented for subsequent packets, but packet
+loss and stateless handling can both mean that the first packet sent by an
+endpoint isn't necessarily the first packet received by its peer.  The first
+packet received by a peer cannot be 2^32 or greater or the recipient will
+incorrectly assume a packet number that is 2^32 values lower and discard the
+packet.
+
+Use of a secure random number generator {{?RFC4086}} is not necessary for
+generating the initial packet number, nor is it necessary that the value be
+uniformly distributed.
+
+Packets with the long header include the low 32-bits of the packet number.
+Packets that use the short header can use a shorter packet number encoding.

Sure, I'll delete those. I was trying to fix a paragraph that wasn't right in the first place.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +The initial value for packet number MUST be selected randomly from a range
+between 0 and 2^32 - 1024.  This value is selected so that Initial and Handshake
+packets exercise as many possible values for the Packet Number field as
+possible.
+
+Limiting the range allows both for loss of packets and for any stateless
+exchanges.  Packet numbers are incremented for subsequent packets, but packet
+loss and stateless handling can both mean that the first packet sent by an
+endpoint isn't necessarily the first packet received by its peer.  The first
+packet received by a peer cannot be 2^32 or greater or the recipient will
+incorrectly assume a packet number that is 2^32 values lower and discard the
+packet.
+
+Use of a secure random number generator {{?RFC4086}} is not necessary for
+generating the initial packet number, nor is it necessary that the value be
+uniformly distributed.

indeed

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -743,14 +743,25 @@ have special rules for populating the packet number field.
 
 ### Initial Packet Number {#initial-packet-number}
 
-The initial value for packet number MUST be selected from an uniform random
-distribution between 0 and 2^31-1.  That is, the lower 31 bits of the packet
-number are randomized.  {{?RFC4086}} provides guidance on the generation of
-random values.
-
-The first set of packets sent by an endpoint MUST include the low 32-bits of the
-packet number.  Once any packet has been acknowledged, subsequent packets can
-use a shorter packet number encoding.
+The initial value for packet number MUST be selected randomly from a range
+between 0 and 2^32 - 1024.  This value is selected so that Initial and Handshake

I wanted to avoid invoking the spectre of #832, but I will clarify (the easiest is probably [0, 2^32-1024] because that makes a check using a bitmask easier).

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -515,8 +515,8 @@ A Version Negotiation packet has long headers with a type value of 0x01 and is
 sent only by servers.  The Version Negotiation packet is a response to a client
 packet that contains a version that is not supported by the server.
 
-The packet number, connection ID and version fields echo corresponding values
-from the triggering client packet.  This allows clients some assurance that the
+The connection ID and version fields echo corresponding values from the
+triggering client packet.  This allows clients some assurance that the
 server received the packet and that the Version Negotiation packet was not
 carried in a packet with a spoofed source address.

Note that if we decide to have a shorter packet header for Version Negotiation, a 0 is harmless. It advertises support for a version that cannot be supported, so it can be ignored.

I was going to suggest having explicit text about ignoring the packet number, but we might just remove it, so don't bother just yet.

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The discussion today concluded that version-specific stateless reset is = possible. The cost here is that servers that speak multiple versions will = have to generate a stateless reset that would be accepted in any version. = That's possible if we ensure that concurrently deployed versions only need = to write to non-overlapping parts of the packet.

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It's possible that we can still grease even for cases where multiplexing with RTP is desired, we just might multiplex less. Would it help if I wrote up what I am considering specifying for greasing?

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +is "Recv".  Receiving a RST_STREAM frame causes the receive stream to
+immediately transition to the "Reset Recvd".
+
+The receive stream enters the "Recv" state when the sending part of a
+bidirectional stream initiated by the endpoint (type 0 for a client, type 1 for
+a server) enters the "Open" state.
+
+A bidirectional stream also opens when a MAX_STREAM_DATA frame is received.
+Receiving a MAX_STREAM_DATA frame implies that the remote peer has opened the
+stream and is providing flow control credit.  A MAX_STREAM_DATA frame might
+arrive before a STREAM or STREAM_BLOCKED frame if packets are lost or reordered.
+
+In the "Recv" state, the endpoint receives STREAM and STREAM_BLOCKED frames.
+Incoming data is buffered and reassembled into the correct order for delivery to
+the application.  As data is consumed by the application and buffer space
+becomes available, the endpoint sends MAX_STREAM_DATA frames to allow the peer

Probably not, honestly - it's a MUST in a sense as well. Best to leave the normative language about that to other parts of the spec.

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There's a question about 5-tuple and migration after closing/draining. Also about key update. I'm explicitly not addressing that here. I'll file a follow-up with a short paragraph on those points. > -Different treatment is given to packets that are received while a connection is -in the draining period depending on how the connection was closed. An endpoint -that is in a draining period MUST NOT send packets unless they contain a -CONNECTION_CLOSE or APPLICATION_CLOSE frame. +Disposing of connection state prior to the end of the draining period could +result in delayed or reordered packets to be handled poorly. Endpoints that +have some alternative means to ensure that late-arriving packets on the +connection do not create QUIC state, such as by closing the UDP socket, MAY use You would have to assume that that is acceptable. Probably not worth mentioning though (to avoid a serious digression). > -Different treatment is given to packets that are received while a connection is -in the draining period depending on how the connection was closed. An endpoint -that is in a draining period MUST NOT send packets unless they contain a -CONNECTION_CLOSE or APPLICATION_CLOSE frame. +Disposing of connection state prior to the end of the draining period could +result in delayed or reordered packets to be handled poorly. Endpoints that +have some alternative means to ensure that late-arriving packets on the +connection do not create QUIC state, such as by closing the UDP socket, MAY use +an abbreviated draining period which can allow for faster resource recovery. +Servers that retain an open socket for accepting new connections SHOULD NOT exit +the draining period early. I've taken a stab at this. connection ID is pretty much it. I will use MAY for the packet protection keys. I'll observe here (but not in the text) that a key update will be difficult to manage, as much as a path migration is difficult. Let's not over-optimize for those cases. > Once the draining period has ended, an endpoint SHOULD discard per-connection -state. This results in new packets on the connection being discarded. An -endpoint MAY send a stateless reset in response to any further incoming packets. +state. This results in new packets on the connection being handled generically. +For instance, an endpoint MAY send a stateless reset in response to any further +incoming packets. This is a great suggestion. I've taken the suggestion. > The time at which an idle timeout takes effect won't be perfectly synchronized -on peers. A connection enters the draining period when the idle timeout -expires. During this time, an endpoint that receives new packets MAY choose to -restore the connection. Alternatively, an endpoint that receives packets MAY -signal the timeout using an immediate close. +on peers. An endpoint MAY enter a third state where receipt of new packets +causes the connection to be restored to normal operation. I think that I might remove this third state thing and not mention revivification. > -endpoint maintains in this case, it MAY send the exact same packet. However, -endpoints SHOULD limit the number of packets they generate containing either -close frame. For instance, an endpoint could progressively increase the number -of packets that it receives before sending additional packets. +An endpoint sends a closing frame, either CONNECTION_CLOSE or APPLICATION_CLOSE, +to terminate the connection immediately. Either closing frame causes all open +streams to immediately become closed; open streams can be assumed to be +implicitly reset. + +After sending a closing frame, endpoints immediately enter a closing period. +After receiving a closing frame, endpoints enter a draining period. An endpoint +that receives a closing frame MAY send a single closing frame before entering a +draining period, but MUST NOT send further packets, which could result in a +constant exchange of closing frames until the closing period on either peer +ended. + I considered that, but a strict prohibition is easier. It would be possible to reserve a codepoint for this, but we would also have to mandate decryption and I don't want to do that. > +implicitly reset. + +After sending a closing frame, endpoints immediately enter a closing period. +After receiving a closing frame, endpoints enter a draining period. An endpoint +that receives a closing frame MAY send a single closing frame before entering a +draining period, but MUST NOT send further packets, which could result in a +constant exchange of closing frames until the closing period on either peer +ended. + +During the draining period, an endpoint that sends a closing frame SHOULD +respond to any subsequent packet that it receives with another packet containing +either closing frame. To reduce the state that an endpoint maintains in this +case, it MAY send the exact same packet. However, endpoints SHOULD limit the +number of packets they generate containing a closing frame. For instance, an +endpoint could progressively increase the number of packets that it receives +before sending additional packets. Yep, that's a straight error on my part. I've rearranged this a little so that the distinction is clearer. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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There's a question about 5-tuple and migration after closing/draining. Also about key update. I'm explicitly not addressing that here. I'll file a follow-up with a short paragraph on those points.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
-Different treatment is given to packets that are received while a connection is
-in the draining period depending on how the connection was closed.  An endpoint
-that is in a draining period MUST NOT send packets unless they contain a
-CONNECTION_CLOSE or APPLICATION_CLOSE frame.
+Disposing of connection state prior to the end of the draining period could
+result in delayed or reordered packets to be handled poorly.  Endpoints that
+have some alternative means to ensure that late-arriving packets on the
+connection do not create QUIC state, such as by closing the UDP socket, MAY use

You would have to assume that that is acceptable. Probably not worth mentioning though (to avoid a serious digression).

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
-Different treatment is given to packets that are received while a connection is
-in the draining period depending on how the connection was closed.  An endpoint
-that is in a draining period MUST NOT send packets unless they contain a
-CONNECTION_CLOSE or APPLICATION_CLOSE frame.
+Disposing of connection state prior to the end of the draining period could
+result in delayed or reordered packets to be handled poorly.  Endpoints that
+have some alternative means to ensure that late-arriving packets on the
+connection do not create QUIC state, such as by closing the UDP socket, MAY use
+an abbreviated draining period which can allow for faster resource recovery.
+Servers that retain an open socket for accepting new connections SHOULD NOT exit
+the draining period early.

I've taken a stab at this. connection ID is pretty much it. I will use MAY for the packet protection keys. I'll observe here (but not in the text) that a key update will be difficult to manage, as much as a path migration is difficult. Let's not over-optimize for those cases.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
 Once the draining period has ended, an endpoint SHOULD discard per-connection
-state.  This results in new packets on the connection being discarded.  An
-endpoint MAY send a stateless reset in response to any further incoming packets.
+state.  This results in new packets on the connection being handled generically.
+For instance, an endpoint MAY send a stateless reset in response to any further
+incoming packets.

This is a great suggestion. I've taken the suggestion.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
 The time at which an idle timeout takes effect won't be perfectly synchronized
-on peers.  A connection enters the draining period when the idle timeout
-expires.  During this time, an endpoint that receives new packets MAY choose to
-restore the connection.  Alternatively, an endpoint that receives packets MAY
-signal the timeout using an immediate close.
+on peers.  An endpoint MAY enter a third state where receipt of new packets
+causes the connection to be restored to normal operation.

I think that I might remove this third state thing and not mention revivification.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> -endpoint maintains in this case, it MAY send the exact same packet.  However,
-endpoints SHOULD limit the number of packets they generate containing either
-close frame.  For instance, an endpoint could progressively increase the number
-of packets that it receives before sending additional packets.
+An endpoint sends a closing frame, either CONNECTION_CLOSE or APPLICATION_CLOSE,
+to terminate the connection immediately.  Either closing frame causes all open
+streams to immediately become closed; open streams can be assumed to be
+implicitly reset.
+
+After sending a closing frame, endpoints immediately enter a closing period.
+After receiving a closing frame, endpoints enter a draining period.  An endpoint
+that receives a closing frame MAY send a single closing frame before entering a
+draining period, but MUST NOT send further packets, which could result in a
+constant exchange of closing frames until the closing period on either peer
+ended.
+

I considered that, but a strict prohibition is easier. It would be possible to reserve a codepoint for this, but we would also have to mandate decryption and I don't want to do that.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +implicitly reset.
+
+After sending a closing frame, endpoints immediately enter a closing period.
+After receiving a closing frame, endpoints enter a draining period.  An endpoint
+that receives a closing frame MAY send a single closing frame before entering a
+draining period, but MUST NOT send further packets, which could result in a
+constant exchange of closing frames until the closing period on either peer
+ended.
+
+During the draining period, an endpoint that sends a closing frame SHOULD
+respond to any subsequent packet that it receives with another packet containing
+either closing frame.  To reduce the state that an endpoint maintains in this
+case, it MAY send the exact same packet.  However, endpoints SHOULD limit the
+number of packets they generate containing a closing frame.  For instance, an
+endpoint could progressively increase the number of packets that it receives
+before sending additional packets.

Yep, that's a straight error on my part. I've rearranged this a little so that the distinction is clearer.

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----==_mimepart_5a1e3e2539c77_39dc3fd9a8758f343429c8-- From nobody Tue Nov 28 22:16:33 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03CBE126B7F for ; Tue, 28 Nov 2017 22:16:32 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.402 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.402 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id olJkpfLKKH56 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 2017 22:16:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from o10.sgmail.github.com (o10.sgmail.github.com [167.89.101.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 04478126B7E for ; Tue, 28 Nov 2017 22:16:30 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=7hxhVkuVA3subhX5pP74g6wvGVk=; b=DUO4sEsqpzHt0Wua vCaWrEh8DoTltOGR4UaZujtE3EqZTFl2n7JDTz7Fu8Bbx5ikoxMUW7KzXEGStf4e 7HbgWTfYbetIeN1rS4BhcfvS/iF/ycTC6yZ74mGdjYrohLPlkKkz0Pd0OPrEOkzI z8Qg2lDOjHNdnlyamDj3WGBW4e4= Received: by filter0073p1iad2.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0073p1iad2-25804-5A1E50BD-10 2017-11-29 06:16:29.558751258 +0000 UTC Received: from github-smtp2b-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (github-smtp2b-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net [192.30.253.17]) by ismtpd0002p1iad1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id yWXJlSrlSTOGYRbPeVnsLw for ; Wed, 29 Nov 2017 06:16:29.543 +0000 (UTC) Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2017 06:16:29 +0000 (UTC) From: Subodh Iyengar Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Handshake errors (#608) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5a1e50bd6cb6c_55fa3fc020534f38886b5"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: siyengar X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org tracking: X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak3kxhhyv9Ojk3WR6m0A1/bJCohUjIfTsS/Nnj QLh+WW41SPlp1NV1c6e6Na1zsWpljVUie1b63wUBJtssNFQ/zU7Z2CoziGWjzQHh58I118uPX+zuBU aRLU7JpccIkQ0FP0eLhCvRCdZPoTjB2qtM6xt/SUp+1neXqLeAGszJpE+J/hT9fGqxxAjKZK1ESaHC Y= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2017 06:16:32 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5a1e50bd6cb6c_55fa3fc020534f38886b5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit When implementing this, I'm sending CONNECTION_CLOSE in a plaintext packet if the TLS handshake has not finished yet. I ran into a case where the cert validation failed, however I wasn't really able to indicate this with a reasonable error code. Should we have an error code for TLS_ERROR or HANDSHAKE_ERROR -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/608#issuecomment-347764022 ----==_mimepart_5a1e50bd6cb6c_55fa3fc020534f38886b5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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Like TLS_HANDSHAKE_FAILED (0x201)?

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Merged #956.

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  • Remove remnants of the limit on ACK blocks

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Could you please elaborate why you think that? And (emphasis added): > The fact we're not moving the connection ID really helps, since *we can always lookup by connection ID first*, and then if nothing is found, try to parse it as a handshake packet that creates a new connection. This is quite expensive compared to simply examining the packet header! One can also imagine a situation where a demultiplexer forwards packets to two separate (processes or machines) QUIC implementations: gQUIC and IETF QUIC. The demux would not have the associated state. The fallback to looking up a connection for each packet to determine which QUIC version it is should be used as last resort. I hope we can avoid it. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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I think this change doesn't change how difficult it is to support GQUIC = and IETF QUIC at once.

Could you please elaborate why you think that?

And (emphasis added):

The fact we're not moving the connection ID really helps, since we c= an always lookup by connection ID first, and then if nothing is found,= try to parse it as a handshake packet that creates a new connection.

This is quite expensive compared to simply examining the packet header! = One can also imagine a situation where a demultiplexer forwards packets to= two separate (processes or machines) QUIC implementations: gQUIC and IETF = QUIC. The demux would not have the associated state.

The fallback to looking up a connection for each packet to determine whi= ch QUIC version it is should be used as last resort. I hope we can avoid i= t.

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Agreed on this merging sooner than I expected. I realize we want to nai= l down the type byte, but I'm still not sure why we're doing this?

@dtikhon= ov You seemed to think it made supporting both at once easier than befo= re? Is that because all the new code points are either undefined or in pra= ctice unused in GQUIC?

@mar= tinthomson Yes, I think it would help to have a specific greasing propo= sal written up that deals with both coexistence of GQUIC and IETF QUIC, as = well as IETF QUIC and WebRTC.

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@ianswett approved this pull request.

Looks good, but one suggested improvement to the existing wording while you're there.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -130,7 +130,7 @@ important to the loss detection and congestion control machinery below.
   machinery of QUIC underneath.
 
 * ACK frames contain acknowledgment information.  QUIC uses a SACK-based

Now that I read this, I don't think we want to use the word SACK here, since that has some baggage from TCP. How about "ACK frames contain one or more ranges of acknowledged packets."?

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -238,7 +238,7 @@ retransmission ambiguity problem.  QUIC acknowledgments also explicitly encode
 the delay between the receipt of a packet and its acknowledgment being sent, and
 together with the monotonically-increasing packet numbers, this allows for
 precise network roundtrip-time (RTT) calculation.  QUIC's ACK frames support up

remove "up"

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It's possible that we can still grease even for cases where multiplexing= with RTP is desired, we just might multiplex less.

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Likely, yes

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Sorry for late, but I think initial_max_stream_id_bidi and initial_max_s= tream_id_uni should allow 0.
The current text says 0 is not valid.

And also I'm wondering why initial_max_stream_id_uni must be sent by ser= ver. And there is no indication for client although the text says about cl= ient case.
Should it put after ack_delay_exponent, I mean, its transmission is MAY.

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= ----==_mimepart_5a1ec39f440d2_3b273f896df66f2c2005924-- From nobody Wed Nov 29 06:52:53 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EADF126C25 for ; Wed, 29 Nov 2017 06:52:51 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.8 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.8 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-2.8, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hxiSracv9cqc for ; Wed, 29 Nov 2017 06:52:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from o5.sgmail.github.com (o5.sgmail.github.com [192.254.113.10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E0C731243F6 for ; Wed, 29 Nov 2017 06:52:49 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=aiWE5BzrNwlbKs63bqaeoV2DrPs=; b=t697uI3QDAdd4rg1 0tKMJ/Ra5hxxQSfj3tLP7oQWreFQau3LsbrvdvkhEQ/3fJ3VP2P/RXxGJP8VMl0y 74RU0osRni1cb56FUKsDzTbUhsBlIzrKc6JkvAGdLLUE59O5DLmi15lF1lGABoTZ FTZIezfmFlz3w99ynBO0hTAGv3s= Received: by filter1108p1mdw1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter1108p1mdw1-27582-5A1EC9C0-31 2017-11-29 14:52:49.019730475 +0000 UTC Received: from github-smtp2b-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (github-smtp2b-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net [192.30.253.17]) by ismtpd0017p1iad2.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id _3rd6dshQHGLGfIZTp4S4g for ; Wed, 29 Nov 2017 14:52:48.850 +0000 (UTC) Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2017 14:52:49 +0000 (UTC) From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Renumber packet types and invert Connection ID Flag (#956) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5a1ec9c0b442d_7cd83f846c7a6f2c88160"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org tracking: X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak3m0/+ZnweNGnOm7dp01cRCMUMSapCheKt54j TuSZewuiS24QxIAkD87qFqg7K0AjO/572agn2vJo8i7c0bUySkbEed+RuWjFNhJR1CbwTg08kGFz1a ndwUTxsvKzWl17D73xDlyfOPZntk2Sk6IExxnWFXF8hz5ysnLRxcAjuVBpj1yhPo4HgDtWXOcDXnbZ 8= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2017 14:52:52 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5a1ec9c0b442d_7cd83f846c7a6f2c88160 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Our server always requires connection id to be present on packets it receives, so the ambiguity you mention in your original post is not a problem. With the previous numbering scheme, on the server side, we can just look at the first two bits. If either is 1, then it's IETF QUIC, and if both are 0, it's GQUIC. In the new scheme, I can still check the first bit for the long header, and then I can check the nonce bit, and if it's that's 1, it must be IETF QUIC because the client never sends a diversification nonce. But I believe the nonce bit is the bit that would end up being the spin bit, which could start making things pretty tricky. It's probably worth thinking through what happens if two bits are reserved for measurement. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/956#issuecomment-347883901 ----==_mimepart_5a1ec9c0b442d_7cd83f846c7a6f2c88160 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Our server always requires connection id to be present on packets it rec= eives, so the ambiguity you mention in your original post is not a problem.=

With the previous numbering scheme, on the server side, we can just look= at the first two bits. If either is 1, then it's IETF QUIC, and if both a= re 0, it's GQUIC.

In the new scheme, I can still check the first bit for the long header, = and then I can check the nonce bit, and if it's that's 1, it must be IETF Q= UIC because the client never sends a diversification nonce.

But I believe the nonce bit is the bit that would end up being the spin = bit, which could start making things pretty tricky. It's probably worth th= inking through what happens if two bits are reserved for measurement.

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With the previous numbering scheme, on the server side, we can just look= at the first two bits. If either is 1, then it's IETF QUIC, and if both ar= e 0, it's GQUIC.

I see. If one can assume that 0x40 (multipath) bit is never set in GQUI= C, then this is indeed very easy. I did not make this assumption in my ana= lyses to err on the conservative side.

But I believe the nonce bit is the bit that would end up being the spin = bit, which could start making things pretty tricky. It's probably worth thi= nking through what happens if two bits are reserved for measurement.

Are you saying that the packet type in the short header would be narrowe= r and occupy fewer than the currently-allocated low five bits? (I apologiz= e for not being on top of this development.)

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I agree with tatsuhiro-t. Not every QUIC implementation might want to su= pport both uni- and bidirectional streams, so having a way to effectively d= isable each of the types would be really helpful.
I suggest making 0 a valid value in both cases.

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= ----==_mimepart_5a1ee0532ef99_31a93fa581fdef381112e4-- From nobody Wed Nov 29 09:10:44 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06A75127B57 for ; Wed, 29 Nov 2017 09:10:44 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.616 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.616 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8DiusqDX9EC8 for ; Wed, 29 Nov 2017 09:10:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from o9.sgmail.github.com (o9.sgmail.github.com [167.89.101.2]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E4E651273E2 for ; Wed, 29 Nov 2017 09:10:42 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=nJwc2yMdD+xrp2tiaqrouxvQyeg=; b=eNm6QyyNfR9JiUEZ 6OkMrd6oFBdt4BIbRKkqEnM3dKlrpLvpLVzeaTeKAokhauHKIhCyhum1lsIkEQLQ uEiRIpvrBfpiSraKph+gx+IfclbLkOwt+LMs3MNLuNWcHkBnHlG+nl1IconUjS3g xjQ3rCQBlmZNE/SFPPSDk7dnPEQ= Received: by filter0481p1las1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0481p1las1-3158-5A1EEA11-12 2017-11-29 17:10:41.430281105 +0000 UTC Received: from github-smtp2b-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (github-smtp2b-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net [192.30.253.17]) by ismtpd0010p1iad1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id rUQepsHMSO-4cV4wbkXlYA for ; Wed, 29 Nov 2017 17:10:41.338 +0000 (UTC) Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2017 17:10:41 +0000 (UTC) From: Marten Seemann Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Renumber packet types and invert Connection ID Flag (#956) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5a1eea0ef29f1_75c3ff72430af38148041"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: marten-seemann X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org tracking: X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak3i9PaZi+FXitC1XZIJyWZRVjXC5b0iWigB5V geopxZvglULKPc/nbyKS99diOzQYaDunUGFbrvay5OkcGB7pW66jqXORiUiNh7l3IZeMcobo1GkMHu Zv8aXGfMAZPYMYSbdusm+5iwbcMKr8fF1zJx7ps/k8zJnB6OLK+3VWIbflkcO+JAk+MBY+Z62MAUy6 Y= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2017 17:10:44 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5a1eea0ef29f1_75c3ff72430af38148041 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > But I believe the nonce bit is the bit that would end up being the spin bit, which could start making things pretty tricky. That would be really unpleasant. What is the reason for inverting the Connection ID flag? We had a type byte format that worked perfectly in all corner cases, and by merging this PR, we just destroyed this feature and create a big problem for all people who have gQUIC deployed. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/956#issuecomment-347929195 ----==_mimepart_5a1eea0ef29f1_75c3ff72430af38148041 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

But I believe the nonce bit is the bit that would end up being the spin = bit, which could start making things pretty tricky.

That would be really unpleasant. What is the reason for inverting the Co= nnection ID flag?
We had a type byte format that worked perfectly in all corner cases, and by= merging this PR, we just destroyed this feature and create a big problem f= or all people who have gQUIC deployed.

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Yes, the 0x40 bit is always 0, because we never deployed multipath.

There's been quite a bit of discussion about the spin bit, including a n= ew draft sent out today:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-trammell-qu= ic-spin-00

The current proposal makes the type shorter, but the nonce bit would sti= ll always be 1 in the above proposal, so as long as no other bits are used = for anything, we should still be able to use the plan of looking at the fir= st bit or the nonce bit to detect IETF QUIC?

But as Marten says, this PR definitely makes things more complex than I = originally thought, particularly in light of other potential header changes= .

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1667,6 +1667,18 @@ to any further incoming packets.
 The draining and closing periods do not apply when a stateless reset
 ({{stateless-reset}}) is sent.
 
+An endpoint is not expected to handle key updates when it is closing or
+draining.  A key update might prevent the endpoint from moving from the closing
+state to draining, but it otherwise has no impact.
+
+An endpoint that receives packets from a new source address, indicating a
+connection migration ({{migration}}), can discard these packets if they are
+identified by connection ID.  An endpoint in the closing state MUST strictly
+limit the number of packets it sends to this new address as though the address
+were not validated (see {{migrate-validate}}).  An server in the closing state

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I'm surprised to see this PR merged -- I don't think we had agreed on ST= UN types being necessary to multiplex with. In addition to concerns about G= QUIC vs QUIC, there remains the high-level question of what do we need to m= ultiplex QUIC with on the same port. This was a conversation that made good= progress in Singapore, and I was expecting to continue it and finalize on = list.

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We're clearly not done with this discussion yet, per discussion in Singapore and #956. Re-opening this issue so that discussion happens on the issue and not on the PR.

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Reopened #426.

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"QUIC congestion control is specified in bytes due to finer control and the ease of appropriate byte counting"

.. and then later ..

"In order to fairly compete with flows that are not pacing, it is recommended to not pace the first 10 sent packets when exiting quiescence."

Can we reasonably reword that advice into bytes? 10 MTU worth?

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Let's have discussions on issues and not PRs. Let's please continue this on #426.

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----==_mimepart_5a1f12aa2d85_7f453fac51400f281907f8-- From nobody Wed Nov 29 12:42:58 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99F94126C83 for ; Wed, 29 Nov 2017 12:42:56 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.02 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.02 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id B5e2ytgw5Wmp for ; Wed, 29 Nov 2017 12:42:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from o3.sgmail.github.com (o3.sgmail.github.com [192.254.112.98]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EA6B71204DA for ; Wed, 29 Nov 2017 12:42:54 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=ic1sKbq1epOs5x5/KZ7Dcq/FLxY=; b=iPgNGIUDSduRJHNb nznrXT2Yu5WxHxAPXdj3wwjZONp28hsr56Sg0PkAc27xup3oxDv9jHieGQHh6x6+ +AstHVWNVXCPoDCVzrAJ9SrD5pDlMGbSBLMMlJHvty40sBqwbWfqMrFuZEG4au+L 3YSWyJ1105EGVTL9jikE3c2UDXw= Received: by filter0456p1iad2.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0456p1iad2-25498-5A1F1BCC-13 2017-11-29 20:42:52.517348298 +0000 UTC Received: from github-smtp2b-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (github-smtp2b-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net [192.30.253.17]) by ismtpd0008p1iad1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id gBPp0KVYQWytLRJMu17BAA for ; Wed, 29 Nov 2017 20:42:52.308 +0000 (UTC) Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2017 20:42:52 +0000 (UTC) From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] QUIC header format/demultiplexing (#426) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5a1f1bcc366cf_22813ffaafa80f2c1355a"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org tracking: X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak3YRy0CX2WZH7KnMh0Q1Ri+RQKro1u0wcLcqT L401WO3Enuss0DMyNqeFQzy7Ru9x7ayRiSe1uva6/Wp05TzRMiiVcHInvhC6j+4XH1AsNoRoARfPsb j5J029YHa+ngCfAY/cSwrZ+0mWDg8upM0ogDeNjJooqVeNO6hgSOd5z78EElSkbqyZCk/cx+yPuxj4 M= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2017 20:42:56 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5a1f1bcc366cf_22813ffaafa80f2c1355a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have a few open questions and comments about this before we resolve it. 1) What are we trying to avoid overlapping with? My previous understanding was that we only cared about STUN, since we could deal with the others overlapping. Also, doesn't STUN have some large magic cookie to make it easy to identify when multiplexing? 2) Particularly given the cookie, why is Martin's heuristic solution in https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-aboba-avtcore-quic-multiplexing-01#section-2.3 insufficient? 3) Why do we need to flip the connection id bit to be omit connection id? That removes flexibility for implementations supporting both elsewhere and might make greasing harder. 4) If we need two bits for spin bits or spin+loss(or just reserving them), as is being discussed, we can't put two adjacent bits anywhere and still use the nonce bit to distinguish IETF QUIC from GQUIC, because it will no longer always be 1, hence question 3. I suspect this might make @britram and others a bit unhappy? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/426#issuecomment-347989914 ----==_mimepart_5a1f1bcc366cf_22813ffaafa80f2c1355a Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I have a few open questions and comments about this before we resolve it= .

  1. What are we trying to avoid overlapping with? My previous understandin= g was that we only cared about STUN, since we could deal with the others ov= erlapping. Also, doesn't STUN have some large magic cookie to make it easy= to identify when multiplexing?
  2. Particularly given the cookie, why is Martin's heuristic solution in https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-aboba-av= tcore-quic-multiplexing-01#section-2.3 insufficient?
  3. Why do we need to flip the connection id bit to be omit connection id? = That removes flexibility for implementations supporting both elsewhere and= might make greasing harder.
  4. If we need two bits for spin bits or spin+loss(or just reserving them),= as is being discussed, we can't put two adjacent bits anywhere and still u= se the nonce bit to distinguish IETF QUIC from GQUIC, because it will no lo= nger always be 1, hence question 3. I suspect this might make @britram and others = a bit unhappy?

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I have what might be a better suggestion: define these values to default to zero and make them optional.

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The ACK frame consists of blocks in decreasing packet number order and, now that they use variable-length integers, processing these ACK blocks in reverse order is no longer feasible.

Generally, I feel that ACK blocks should be processed in increasing packet number order (start with smallest packet number), for a couple of reasons:

  1. Assuming your list of Outstanding Sent Packets is ordered by increasing packet number (oldest packet at the front), for any ACK block you process, you'd expect the smallest packet number in the block to be at or near the front of the Sent Packets list.

  2. If the smallest packet number isn't at the front of the Sent Packets list, then it's likely FACK/RACK could kick in, causing the front of the list to be removed immediately, further optimizing the search for the next smallest packet number that was acknowledged.

I can't see any reason for processing ACKs in the current order the frame contains them. Can anyone shed some light on why this order was originally chosen?

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Out of discussion in #958, making initial_max_stream_id_x optional would allow for setting a value of zero. The current definition requires a valid stream ID, which prevents the minimum being set so that no streams are permitted. Having no streams as a default might seem crazy, but it is most efficient.

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Also, it's not especially crazy to omit the values, because MAX_STREAM_ID can be sent after the handshake is complete. It is crazy to omit the values for 0-RTT though.

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Out of discussion in #958, this allows an endpoint to omit initial_max_stream_id_x for the type of streams that it doesn't want or expect to receive.

Adds a warning about silly values for 0-RTT.

Closes #970.

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  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/971

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  • Make initial_max_stream_id_* optional and default to zero

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@martinthomson requested changes on this pull request.

I think that we need to be clearer about the use of the long header here. I don't think that we should say that it has a long header, only that it sets the bit (so that recipients will be able to look for the version field). And we need to explain further about how this is expected to be identified by a recipient.

But then I don't think we should use the long header at all, and drop the randomized packet number field.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
-The connection ID and version fields echo corresponding values from the
-triggering client packet.  This allows clients some assurance that the
-server received the packet and that the Version Negotiation packet was not
-carried in a packet with a spoofed source address.
+The Connection ID field echos the corresponding value from the triggering client

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There was a lengthy discussion on this and some consensus on the need of redesigning the ACK frame, but I can't seem to find the issue where this was covered.

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----==_mimepart_5a1f27b42750c_6cba3fc0e207af342942f4-- From nobody Wed Nov 29 13:48:59 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CE3C124239 for ; Wed, 29 Nov 2017 13:48:57 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.616 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.616 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rBSTEaV_EBY9 for ; Wed, 29 Nov 2017 13:48:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from o9.sgmail.github.com (o9.sgmail.github.com [167.89.101.2]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B05BE124205 for ; Wed, 29 Nov 2017 13:48:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=ffKXJ1WmTkzKWluoX9TORNFPzGc=; b=fH3BpdGwxCvW1J4d HV4L+PJnv+Wr7zPmMHC6f9XiqdqHnVdtERUUEcQ77ZEe0cEkcfRT4qiCBweOztiJ 9rk6WRkI23wX0IUEzzGlFrBgaqH0M3mD5Oasu+cZkBlgWIABS0cLbAfTlgKrPjcg HOn5lfF2HKpjJbE/ow80bpkj14g= Received: by filter1156p1mdw1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter1156p1mdw1-16583-5A1F2B46-14 2017-11-29 21:48:54.922917141 +0000 UTC Received: from github-smtp2b-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (github-smtp2b-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net [192.30.253.17]) by ismtpd0024p1iad2.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id AM335KFkSJCYQowOilMhwA for ; Wed, 29 Nov 2017 21:48:54.884 +0000 (UTC) Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2017 21:48:55 +0000 (UTC) From: Nick Banks Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] ACK Frames should be in Increasing Packet Number Order (#969) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5a1f2b46b50d4_2c793fa97276cf2c61256"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: nibanks X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org tracking: X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak1ILNOafFZxkERRZgv0Fr59U42aVCKrW9SghJ KDr3k6ffWEKSYfpWw4gLOh0qG73Sc8snI+kRy090H6pGchdZzFcYAZzyPYCVJ7l05h83FZJoPO0ADg 3aI+YkLSA5WNYKj16s8FhYuZuAUXv6kgcOhPlGiu2nAFkLzt4VaJ1lYCS3POnHBqHld/sOhF8SPpIF Q= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2017 21:48:57 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5a1f2b46b50d4_2c793fa97276cf2c61256 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well, if folks agree with this, it would be easy enough to change the existing ACK frame text. I'd be happy to make the changes. Find/replace in the ACK section: - 'largest' => 'smallest' - 'descending' => 'ascending' - 'preceding' => 'following' No wire format needs to change as far as I can tell. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/969#issuecomment-348007750 ----==_mimepart_5a1f2b46b50d4_2c793fa97276cf2c61256 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Well, if folks agree with this, it would be easy enough to change the ex= isting ACK frame text. I'd be happy to make the changes. Find/replace in th= e ACK section:

  • 'largest' =3D> 'smallest'
  • 'descending' =3D> 'ascending'
  • 'preceding' =3D> 'following'

No wire format needs to change as far as I can tell.

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= ----==_mimepart_5a1f2b46b50d4_2c793fa97276cf2c61256-- From nobody Wed Nov 29 14:00:10 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF065126D3F for ; Wed, 29 Nov 2017 14:00:07 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.02 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.02 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JKLvw4aC1d2A for ; Wed, 29 Nov 2017 13:59:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from o3.sgmail.github.com (o3.sgmail.github.com [192.254.112.98]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 920B01270A7 for ; Wed, 29 Nov 2017 13:59:58 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=P88lu5e+v7pO7n2QVFQF8KKYzJc=; b=rwOSHeynqDU6SQE5 MXSZasICKL+zwORgY9guANyvE+JrkSO0hFequKr3zQsqH/YZPsgyy+XQLtnxH6ZN 8jWaC7WjvTTtzKVr1cdo7OBQBrrBw+D1hQSWlz8PELuE0fTSd4sx2Vu/+TfylxVN 6i1zhFBzTwM7KCzr5jvXtxXQ9Rs= Received: by filter0331p1iad2.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0331p1iad2-30637-5A1F2DDD-11 2017-11-29 21:59:57.649407045 +0000 UTC Received: from github-smtp2b-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (github-smtp2b-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net [192.30.253.17]) by ismtpd0019p1iad2.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id CDjsxsSDR0WMwlBRg8RLlQ for ; Wed, 29 Nov 2017 21:59:57.667 +0000 (UTC) Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2017 21:59:57 +0000 (UTC) From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] ACK Frames should be in Increasing Packet Number Order (#969) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5a1f2ddcc00ec_69683fc2266dcf2c206821"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org tracking: X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak3mMVHZJNdUSMtLaKKXoofwdfD5+ZTZ3CwG+E kjSgLgp8F275Lw405OQ4iyW57TFWcju29tyrE7XFWHF7EpoowGyMnyJwFgbd0tFrvSYCxsljHWrFUC AUx547fZkL+wC+ZIr1Xhid8Do6zJSZcElxCb9XoJmDX6ae92Qkdh4DuvOXMxqYaPgukdinC5JsZNjJ Q= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2017 22:00:08 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5a1f2ddcc00ec_69683fc2266dcf2c206821 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In most cases, it doesn't matter whether it's in ascending or descending order. If one was using a linked list to store packets, then you would have to skip over a CWND of packets with the current decreasing approach, but that's not a data structure I'd recommend anyway, because it has poor cache locality. A deque is a fairly good choice. The original reason it was chosen is that when sending an ack frame, if there wasn't room for all the ack ranges or you didn't want to send all of them for some other reason, it's best to drop the lowest ranges, which are typically the least recently received packets, rather than the highest. This can be accomplished by doing a first pass through the ack frame and tracking how large it'll serialize to before serializing it, but that's not ideal. As far as I know, the serialization case is the only case where the order ends up mattering much in either computational complexity/cost or programming complexity. I don't think I understand your second concern. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/969#issuecomment-348010809 ----==_mimepart_5a1f2ddcc00ec_69683fc2266dcf2c206821 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

In most cases, it doesn't matter whether it's in ascending or descending= order. If one was using a linked list to store packets, then you would ha= ve to skip over a CWND of packets with the current decreasing approach, but= that's not a data structure I'd recommend anyway, because it has poor cach= e locality. A deque is a fairly good choice.

The original reason it was chosen is that when sending an ack frame, if = there wasn't room for all the ack ranges or you didn't want to send all of = them for some other reason, it's best to drop the lowest ranges, which are = typically the least recently received packets, rather than the highest. Th= is can be accomplished by doing a first pass through the ack frame and trac= king how large it'll serialize to before serializing it, but that's not ide= al.

As far as I know, the serialization case is the only case where the orde= r ends up mattering much in either computational complexity/cost or program= ming complexity.

I don't think I understand your second concern.

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= ----==_mimepart_5a1f2ddcc00ec_69683fc2266dcf2c206821-- From nobody Wed Nov 29 14:13:00 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42B28126D3F for ; Wed, 29 Nov 2017 14:12:56 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.396 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.396 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-2.8, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2OxwASQngqsX for ; Wed, 29 Nov 2017 14:12:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from o5.sgmail.github.com (o5.sgmail.github.com [192.254.113.10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 92E29124234 for ; Wed, 29 Nov 2017 14:12:54 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=X+6tq3qX+AgPJT7c29eY4S8It8Q=; b=WP5eAWJDvcNVUYmn 9/NXUA3swMhXBO9gs8Ee6xZWgL4dGzbmdzN8xvsSXIAcJqxYeueUpw1X9LnciR8+ v4anibbdvjf1N+kNKN4l8ikTRR+PKQTAm5SlLHNuMcES9/2tbAJ+1fwDZLCA7NxC 8a85Pe6KxpXHoutVdZYWU2jb9kY= Received: by filter0805p1mdw1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0805p1mdw1-17894-5A1F30E5-6 2017-11-29 22:12:53.290602131 +0000 UTC Received: from github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net [192.30.253.16]) by ismtpd0005p1iad1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id dRt9lJmTTzGRJCWv94ToDA for ; Wed, 29 Nov 2017 22:12:52.841 +0000 (UTC) Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2017 22:12:53 +0000 (UTC) From: MikkelFJ Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] ACK Frames should be in Increasing Packet Number Order (#969) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5a1f30e4aab63_16a753ffc5bf24f30130085"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: mikkelfj X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org tracking: X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak2GOa64WCjqeO/kZEnmzrd/8WhZy8ZhDvMfBB t8IuivhHPb9kWvkdna7aFjQF55mJAPxdPAzMptyPwjUg2cczimWTOzFxcCqwSsQhGzLpUd8VcCvQmY 04e8wwNZE5CmRj9OR2VV44XXdCjDJU1Q50zZd/dyATpw1D79rEpqqJcG+pmLOMBt0rspLZoJYy/zQd M= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2017 22:12:56 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5a1f30e4aab63_16a753ffc5bf24f30130085 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit For decoding I find the order impractical because packets are sorted by packet number oldest first. If the ACK frame had same order, both lists could be walked directly. In praxis it is not that simple because the entire packet must be validated before being processed and because there could be multiple ACK frames in a single packet so one cannot conclude timeout before seeing all. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/969#issuecomment-348014279 ----==_mimepart_5a1f30e4aab63_16a753ffc5bf24f30130085 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

For decoding I find the order impractical because packets are sorted by = packet number oldest first. If the ACK frame had same order, both lists cou= ld be walked directly. In praxis it is not that simple because the entire p= acket must be validated before being processed and because there could be m= ultiple ACK frames in a single packet so one cannot conclude timeout before= seeing all.

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= ----==_mimepart_5a1f30e4aab63_16a753ffc5bf24f30130085-- From nobody Wed Nov 29 14:15:48 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26FF412717E for ; Wed, 29 Nov 2017 14:15:47 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.02 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.02 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CLCpIqI-Xo2Y for ; Wed, 29 Nov 2017 14:15:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from o9.sgmail.github.com (o9.sgmail.github.com [167.89.101.2]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9EE7D127342 for ; Wed, 29 Nov 2017 14:15:42 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=Nw8CaKx/hJJrTRtN910zwIp9vsw=; b=sAOs+52c3gUpQVaB ZlyNy/lXE/Cl7O/BDOG+rcEdtsvzKHUwpyDCokIIJSiw+gclmlRkA9Ce6wDFgRe8 3lTDKoOboW0Mjf8sUADACacMp03F+8x5lHFfF8IJrfrM43uf6Dqu4p7Cf4sZ6DTV iaZ7JcfP2VsBBgl2hGUGalBAKig= Received: by filter0569p1las1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0569p1las1-12604-5A1F318D-18 2017-11-29 22:15:41.498850016 +0000 UTC Received: from github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net [192.30.253.16]) by ismtpd0004p1iad1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id zJPnM66WQ-OGqb9dmxpA4g for ; Wed, 29 Nov 2017 22:15:41.336 +0000 (UTC) Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2017 22:15:41 +0000 (UTC) From: Nick Banks Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] ACK Frames should be in Increasing Packet Number Order (#969) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5a1f318c3774d_76b43f85a76daf301282ad"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: nibanks X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org tracking: X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak3s+wcp15FASK//mmJxlZqdfPuvIu1mxsii2l sQYUtbSqcvt2om4bhVKhfdR0+VaiEYCef9BxBS1Wo/c3Ls7XV+cH9ZWMjCgRJQILl59F0A757+J08r QGX+/4rvEM7NjoOYubEzUvchjxftTCfitysB+siKgnQOgmyyKt9/QRO5ZlZ2yLTWaXXZBfRVIUQaLz Y= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2017 22:15:47 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5a1f318c3774d_76b43f85a76daf301282ad Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @ianswett Can you elaborate on why you think the order doesn't matter when you process the ACK packet? I am envisioning the following pseudo function: ``` process_ack_frame (ack_frame) { foreach (ack_block in ack_frame) { foreach (pkt_num in ack_block) { if ((sent_pkt = find_outstanding_pkt(pkt_num)) != null) { on_pkt_acked(sent_pkt) } } } } find_outstanding_pkt (pkt_num) { foreach (pkt in outstanding_pkts) { if (pkt.num == pkt_num) { outstanding_pkts.remove(pkt) return pkt } if (pkt.num > pkt_num) break } return null } ``` `process_ack_frame` is most efficient if the ACK frame/blocks are in increasing packet order. Ideally, the find function just pops the head of the list off. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/969#issuecomment-348014988 ----==_mimepart_5a1f318c3774d_76b43f85a76daf301282ad Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

@ianswett= Can you elaborate on why you think the order doesn't matter when you p= rocess the ACK packet? I am envisioning the following pseudo function:

process_ack_frame (ack_frame) {
  foreach (ack_block in ack_frame) {
   foreach (pkt_num in ack_block) {
      if ((sent_pkt =3D find_outstanding_pkt(pkt_num)) !=3D null) {
        on_pkt_acked(sent_pkt)
      }=20
    }
  }
}

find_outstanding_pkt (pkt_num) {
  foreach (pkt in outstanding_pkts) {
    if (pkt.num =3D=3D pkt_num) {
      outstanding_pkts.remove(pkt)
      return pkt
    }
    if (pkt.num > pkt_num) break
  }
  return null
}

process_ack_frame is most efficient if the ACK frame/blocks= are in increasing packet order. Ideally, the find function just pops the h= ead of the list off.

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HANDSHAKE_ERROR sounds like the right error code to me.

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Ah, didn't see Martin's message (stale tab) -- yes, TLS_HANDSHAKE_FAILED (defined in draft-ietf-quic-tls) sounds right.

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I agree with Martin -- I don't think this needs to be a long header at all, but only needs to have the bit set. If you do this, you can eliminate the packet number field.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
-The connection ID and version fields echo corresponding values from the
-triggering client packet.  This allows clients some assurance that the
-server received the packet and that the Version Negotiation packet was not
-carried in a packet with a spoofed source address.
+The Connection ID field echos the corresponding value from the triggering client
+packet.  This allows clients some assurance that the server received the packet
+and that the Version Negotiation packet is in fact from the server.  Values for
+the Packet Number and Type fields are selected at random.

Nit: I would require this: "Values for ... MUST be randomly chosen."

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I've modified this to the following three: 1. draining - when you know that the other side is closing, this is just to absorb stray packets 2. closing - when you have initiated the close and you need to re-send the close in addition to absorbing stray packets (this could be longer than the 3RTO period if we like, but I've opted for keeping a shared timer) 3. timed out - when you timed out, and you are willing to revive the connection if new packets arrive; this one being optional In the process I realized that we needed greater clarity about how to respond to a closing frame (thanks to @huitema for the prompting). I allow the recipient to generate one closing frame, but no more than that. They enter the draining period thereafter and can't send any more packets. Having two peers in the closing state could result in a constant back-and-forth. Editorial: I added the term "closing frame" to cover CONNECTION_CLOSE and APPLICATION_CLOSE collectively, which were getting cumbersome. 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The draining and closing periods do not apply when a stateless reset ({{stateless-reset}}) is sent. +An endpoint is not expected to handle key updates when it is closing or +draining. A key update might prevent the endpoint from moving from the closing +state to draining, but it otherwise has no impact. + +An endpoint that receives packets from a new source address, indicating a +connection migration ({{migration}}), can discard these packets if they are +identified by connection ID. An endpoint in the closing state MUST strictly I don't think you need "if they are identified by connection ID". (How else would they be identified?) > @@ -1667,6 +1667,18 @@ to any further incoming packets. The draining and closing periods do not apply when a stateless reset ({{stateless-reset}}) is sent. +An endpoint is not expected to handle key updates when it is closing or +draining. A key update might prevent the endpoint from moving from the closing +state to draining, but it otherwise has no impact. + +An endpoint that receives packets from a new source address, indicating a +connection migration ({{migration}}), can discard these packets if they are +identified by connection ID. An endpoint in the closing state MUST strictly +limit the number of packets it sends to this new address as though the address +were not validated (see {{migrate-validate}}). A server in the closing state +MAY instead choose to discard packets with a new source address and send a +stateless reset ({{stateless-reset}}) once connection state is discarded. Remove the second part of this sentence beginning with "and send a stateless reset ..." since what else would an endpoint do after connection state is discarded? > @@ -1667,6 +1667,18 @@ to any further incoming packets. The draining and closing periods do not apply when a stateless reset ({{stateless-reset}}) is sent. +An endpoint is not expected to handle key updates when it is closing or +draining. A key update might prevent the endpoint from moving from the closing +state to draining, but it otherwise has no impact. + +An endpoint that receives packets from a new source address, indicating a +connection migration ({{migration}}), can discard these packets if they are +identified by connection ID. An endpoint in the closing state MUST strictly +limit the number of packets it sends to this new address as though the address +were not validated (see {{migrate-validate}}). A server in the closing state +MAY instead choose to discard packets with a new source address and send a This entire sentence may be unnecessary. You already say earlier in this paragraph that an endpoint "can discard these packets". > @@ -1667,6 +1667,18 @@ to any further incoming packets. The draining and closing periods do not apply when a stateless reset ({{stateless-reset}}) is sent. +An endpoint is not expected to handle key updates when it is closing or +draining. A key update might prevent the endpoint from moving from the closing +state to draining, but it otherwise has no impact. + +An endpoint that receives packets from a new source address, indicating a +connection migration ({{migration}}), can discard these packets if they are +identified by connection ID. An endpoint in the closing state MUST strictly +limit the number of packets it sends to this new address as though the address +were not validated (see {{migrate-validate}}). A server in the closing state +MAY instead choose to discard packets with a new source address and send a Ok, I sent you a patch with suggested rewording, PTAL. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1667,6 +1667,18 @@ to any further incoming packets.
 The draining and closing periods do not apply when a stateless reset
 ({{stateless-reset}}) is sent.
 
+An endpoint is not expected to handle key updates when it is closing or
+draining.  A key update might prevent the endpoint from moving from the closing
+state to draining, but it otherwise has no impact.
+
+An endpoint that receives packets from a new source address, indicating a
+connection migration ({{migration}}), can discard these packets if they are
+identified by connection ID.  An endpoint in the closing state MUST strictly

I don't think you need "if they are identified by connection ID". (How else would they be identified?)

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1667,6 +1667,18 @@ to any further incoming packets.
 The draining and closing periods do not apply when a stateless reset
 ({{stateless-reset}}) is sent.
 
+An endpoint is not expected to handle key updates when it is closing or
+draining.  A key update might prevent the endpoint from moving from the closing
+state to draining, but it otherwise has no impact.
+
+An endpoint that receives packets from a new source address, indicating a
+connection migration ({{migration}}), can discard these packets if they are
+identified by connection ID.  An endpoint in the closing state MUST strictly
+limit the number of packets it sends to this new address as though the address
+were not validated (see {{migrate-validate}}).  A server in the closing state
+MAY instead choose to discard packets with a new source address and send a
+stateless reset ({{stateless-reset}}) once connection state is discarded.

Remove the second part of this sentence beginning with "and send a stateless reset ..." since what else would an endpoint do after connection state is discarded?

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1667,6 +1667,18 @@ to any further incoming packets.
 The draining and closing periods do not apply when a stateless reset
 ({{stateless-reset}}) is sent.
 
+An endpoint is not expected to handle key updates when it is closing or
+draining.  A key update might prevent the endpoint from moving from the closing
+state to draining, but it otherwise has no impact.
+
+An endpoint that receives packets from a new source address, indicating a
+connection migration ({{migration}}), can discard these packets if they are
+identified by connection ID.  An endpoint in the closing state MUST strictly
+limit the number of packets it sends to this new address as though the address
+were not validated (see {{migrate-validate}}).  A server in the closing state
+MAY instead choose to discard packets with a new source address and send a

This entire sentence may be unnecessary. You already say earlier in this paragraph that an endpoint "can discard these packets".

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1667,6 +1667,18 @@ to any further incoming packets.
 The draining and closing periods do not apply when a stateless reset
 ({{stateless-reset}}) is sent.
 
+An endpoint is not expected to handle key updates when it is closing or
+draining.  A key update might prevent the endpoint from moving from the closing
+state to draining, but it otherwise has no impact.
+
+An endpoint that receives packets from a new source address, indicating a
+connection migration ({{migration}}), can discard these packets if they are
+identified by connection ID.  An endpoint in the closing state MUST strictly
+limit the number of packets it sends to this new address as though the address
+were not validated (see {{migrate-validate}}).  A server in the closing state
+MAY instead choose to discard packets with a new source address and send a

Ok, I sent you a patch with suggested rewording, PTAL.

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----==_mimepart_5a1f4cf6d89b8_61063fe40cbaaf3850934-- From nobody Wed Nov 29 16:13:17 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EC34126D73 for ; Wed, 29 Nov 2017 16:13:15 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.401 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.401 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ySkoz_-I_w8Y for ; Wed, 29 Nov 2017 16:13:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from o7.sgmail.github.com (o7.sgmail.github.com [167.89.101.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 07F35124D6C for ; Wed, 29 Nov 2017 16:13:13 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=+FEwjIwUtI2+/3pTV7Bq+RY+XaA=; b=X4ZvZw+DjL8Jw+ro j+SY4drW3Hkhtx8c9ncN/D9vBg12lFvgnN6/0WTVtCtn+LBC2TgYQubyisoT3KpS vD9Xt0xJqlYgrXehrCpXsr5Cg+27fV35AslWnAWPi6sIQw32m6u1vpBW3Vz8BLs/ bUSa/cAkKEUGiORnD7Y2lwCwUcY= Received: by filter0510p1las1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0510p1las1-22676-5A1F4D18-10 2017-11-30 00:13:12.766302871 +0000 UTC Received: from github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net [192.30.253.16]) by ismtpd0015p1iad2.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id Rk7_BbFlRsuVpiP5AULPbg for ; Thu, 30 Nov 2017 00:13:12.641 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2017 00:13:13 +0000 (UTC) From: Christian Huitema Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Specify new error type, "closed by peer"? (#973) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5a1f4d187c7ab_3efc3fbdc6826f2c3003b"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: huitema X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak3RCDh4F2wvR1zgtjo9WcsBjMzWXmpTo6BUZj OKLHGRlv8i2QtydtabEBGl6eP8I1tjcHFeapXoJvaOFGSK5rrv4Xf0cDRX65MbaB6ZSbVQHd6LGGFZ QN624dnGoV4Zv01vr0uAlqhm+hC+Wl1ZxPKfISfsnTYfv9/HNGUPsR6i7DZxqPKX0JkpHv4ZdDvkJz w= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2017 00:13:15 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5a1f4d187c7ab_3efc3fbdc6826f2c3003b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The updated text in Section 7.9.3, "Immediate Close" states that: "_After receiving a closing frame, endpoints enter a draining period. An endpoint that receives a closing frame MAY send a single packet containing a CONNECTION_CLOSE frame before entering a draining period, but MUST NOT send further packets, which could result in a constant exchange of closing frames until the closing period on either peer ended_." That's fine, but what error type should the peer use? No error? Should we specify a "closed by peer" error type? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/973 ----==_mimepart_5a1f4d187c7ab_3efc3fbdc6826f2c3003b Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

The updated text in Section 7.9.3, "Immediate Close" states that: "After receiving a closing frame, endpoints enter a draining period. An endpoint that receives a closing frame MAY send a single packet containing a CONNECTION_CLOSE frame before entering a draining period, but MUST NOT send further packets, which could result in a constant exchange of closing frames until the closing period on either peer ended."

That's fine, but what error type should the peer use? No error? Should we specify a "closed by peer" error type?

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I think we'd discussed using NO_ERROR for this. 0x0 is analogous to STOPPING, used on a stream in response to a STOP_SENDING.

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@martinthomson commented on this pull request.

I think that we should say something about how this is identified by a client. Maybe:

"A Version Negotiation packet that is received by a client will be initially identified as a packet with a long header based on the high bit of the first octet. Checking the Version field will reveal the packet to be a Version Negotiation packet."

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
 ~~~
  0                   1                   2                   3
  0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1
++-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
+|1|   Type (7)  |

Rather than enshrine this as a "Type" field, I think that I'd prefer that this be marked "Unused" instead.

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I prefer to have explicit intent with 0, but either works.

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A few nits, but looks good otherwise. > @@ -1151,6 +1140,27 @@ stateless_reset_token (0x0006): : The Stateless Reset Token is used in verifying a stateless reset, see {{stateless-reset}}. This parameter is a sequence of 16 octets. +A client MUST NOT include a stateless reset token. A server MUST treat receipt +of a stateless_reset_token transport parameter as a connection error of type +TRANSPORT_PARAMETER_ERROR. + +An endpoint MAY use the following transport parameters: + +initial_max_stream_id_bidi (0x0002): + +: The initial maximum stream ID parameter contains the initial maximum stream + number the peer may initiate for bidirectional streams, encoded as an unsigned + 32-bit integer. This value MUST be a valid bidirectional stream ID for a + peer-initiated stream (that is, the two least significant bits are set to 0 by + a server and to 1 by a client). If an invalid value is provided, the + recipient MUST generate a connection error of type TRANSPORT_PARAMETER_ERROR. + This is equivalent to sending a MAX_STREAM_ID ({{frame-max-stream-id}}) nit: "This" is ambiguous. I would say "This parameter" > +of a stateless_reset_token transport parameter as a connection error of type +TRANSPORT_PARAMETER_ERROR. + +An endpoint MAY use the following transport parameters: + +initial_max_stream_id_bidi (0x0002): + +: The initial maximum stream ID parameter contains the initial maximum stream + number the peer may initiate for bidirectional streams, encoded as an unsigned + 32-bit integer. This value MUST be a valid bidirectional stream ID for a + peer-initiated stream (that is, the two least significant bits are set to 0 by + a server and to 1 by a client). If an invalid value is provided, the + recipient MUST generate a connection error of type TRANSPORT_PARAMETER_ERROR. + This is equivalent to sending a MAX_STREAM_ID ({{frame-max-stream-id}}) + immediately after completing the handshake. The maximum stream ID is set to 0 + if this parameter is absent, preventing the creation of new unidirectional "new bidirectional streams", not "unidirectional" > + +An endpoint MAY use the following transport parameters: + +initial_max_stream_id_bidi (0x0002): + +: The initial maximum stream ID parameter contains the initial maximum stream + number the peer may initiate for bidirectional streams, encoded as an unsigned + 32-bit integer. This value MUST be a valid bidirectional stream ID for a + peer-initiated stream (that is, the two least significant bits are set to 0 by + a server and to 1 by a client). If an invalid value is provided, the + recipient MUST generate a connection error of type TRANSPORT_PARAMETER_ERROR. + This is equivalent to sending a MAX_STREAM_ID ({{frame-max-stream-id}}) + immediately after completing the handshake. The maximum stream ID is set to 0 + if this parameter is absent, preventing the creation of new unidirectional + streams until a MAX_STREAM_ID frame is sent. Note that a default value of 0 + does not prevent the the cryptographic handshake stream (that is, stream 0) to typo: "the the" > @@ -1160,13 +1170,9 @@ initial_max_stream_id_uni (0x0008): and to 3 by a client). If an invalid value is provided, the recipient MUST generate a connection error of type TRANSPORT_PARAMETER_ERROR. This is equivalent to sending a MAX_STREAM_ID ({{frame-max-stream-id}}) immediately - after completing the handshake. - -A client MUST NOT include a stateless reset token. A server MUST treat receipt -of a stateless_reset_token transport parameter as a connection error of type -TRANSPORT_PARAMETER_ERROR. - -An endpoint MAY use the following transport parameters: + after completing the handshake. The maximum stream ID is set to 0 if this nit: "The maximum unidirectional stream ID" > +A client MUST NOT include a stateless reset token. A server MUST treat receipt +of a stateless_reset_token transport parameter as a connection error of type +TRANSPORT_PARAMETER_ERROR. + +An endpoint MAY use the following transport parameters: + +initial_max_stream_id_bidi (0x0002): + +: The initial maximum stream ID parameter contains the initial maximum stream + number the peer may initiate for bidirectional streams, encoded as an unsigned + 32-bit integer. This value MUST be a valid bidirectional stream ID for a + peer-initiated stream (that is, the two least significant bits are set to 0 by + a server and to 1 by a client). If an invalid value is provided, the + recipient MUST generate a connection error of type TRANSPORT_PARAMETER_ERROR. + This is equivalent to sending a MAX_STREAM_ID ({{frame-max-stream-id}}) + immediately after completing the handshake. The maximum stream ID is set to 0 nit: "The maximum bidirectional stream ID" -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/971#pullrequestreview-80043707 ----==_mimepart_5a1f4fad7a5e8_17613fb99e46af2c13106e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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A few nits, but looks good otherwise.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1151,6 +1140,27 @@ stateless_reset_token (0x0006):
 : The Stateless Reset Token is used in verifying a stateless reset, see
   {{stateless-reset}}.  This parameter is a sequence of 16 octets.
 
+A client MUST NOT include a stateless reset token.  A server MUST treat receipt
+of a stateless_reset_token transport parameter as a connection error of type
+TRANSPORT_PARAMETER_ERROR.
+
+An endpoint MAY use the following transport parameters:
+
+initial_max_stream_id_bidi (0x0002):
+
+: The initial maximum stream ID parameter contains the initial maximum stream
+  number the peer may initiate for bidirectional streams, encoded as an unsigned
+  32-bit integer.  This value MUST be a valid bidirectional stream ID for a
+  peer-initiated stream (that is, the two least significant bits are set to 0 by
+  a server and to 1 by a client).  If an invalid value is provided, the
+  recipient MUST generate a connection error of type TRANSPORT_PARAMETER_ERROR.
+  This is equivalent to sending a MAX_STREAM_ID ({{frame-max-stream-id}})

nit: "This" is ambiguous. I would say "This parameter"

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +of a stateless_reset_token transport parameter as a connection error of type
+TRANSPORT_PARAMETER_ERROR.
+
+An endpoint MAY use the following transport parameters:
+
+initial_max_stream_id_bidi (0x0002):
+
+: The initial maximum stream ID parameter contains the initial maximum stream
+  number the peer may initiate for bidirectional streams, encoded as an unsigned
+  32-bit integer.  This value MUST be a valid bidirectional stream ID for a
+  peer-initiated stream (that is, the two least significant bits are set to 0 by
+  a server and to 1 by a client).  If an invalid value is provided, the
+  recipient MUST generate a connection error of type TRANSPORT_PARAMETER_ERROR.
+  This is equivalent to sending a MAX_STREAM_ID ({{frame-max-stream-id}})
+  immediately after completing the handshake.  The maximum stream ID is set to 0
+  if this parameter is absent, preventing the creation of new unidirectional

"new bidirectional streams", not "unidirectional"

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +
+An endpoint MAY use the following transport parameters:
+
+initial_max_stream_id_bidi (0x0002):
+
+: The initial maximum stream ID parameter contains the initial maximum stream
+  number the peer may initiate for bidirectional streams, encoded as an unsigned
+  32-bit integer.  This value MUST be a valid bidirectional stream ID for a
+  peer-initiated stream (that is, the two least significant bits are set to 0 by
+  a server and to 1 by a client).  If an invalid value is provided, the
+  recipient MUST generate a connection error of type TRANSPORT_PARAMETER_ERROR.
+  This is equivalent to sending a MAX_STREAM_ID ({{frame-max-stream-id}})
+  immediately after completing the handshake.  The maximum stream ID is set to 0
+  if this parameter is absent, preventing the creation of new unidirectional
+  streams until a MAX_STREAM_ID frame is sent.  Note that a default value of 0
+  does not prevent the the cryptographic handshake stream (that is, stream 0) to

typo: "the the"

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1160,13 +1170,9 @@ initial_max_stream_id_uni (0x0008):
   and to 3 by a client).  If an invalid value is provided, the recipient MUST
   generate a connection error of type TRANSPORT_PARAMETER_ERROR.  This is
   equivalent to sending a MAX_STREAM_ID ({{frame-max-stream-id}}) immediately
-  after completing the handshake.
-
-A client MUST NOT include a stateless reset token.  A server MUST treat receipt
-of a stateless_reset_token transport parameter as a connection error of type
-TRANSPORT_PARAMETER_ERROR.
-
-An endpoint MAY use the following transport parameters:
+  after completing the handshake.  The maximum stream ID is set to 0 if this

nit: "The maximum unidirectional stream ID"

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +A client MUST NOT include a stateless reset token.  A server MUST treat receipt
+of a stateless_reset_token transport parameter as a connection error of type
+TRANSPORT_PARAMETER_ERROR.
+
+An endpoint MAY use the following transport parameters:
+
+initial_max_stream_id_bidi (0x0002):
+
+: The initial maximum stream ID parameter contains the initial maximum stream
+  number the peer may initiate for bidirectional streams, encoded as an unsigned
+  32-bit integer.  This value MUST be a valid bidirectional stream ID for a
+  peer-initiated stream (that is, the two least significant bits are set to 0 by
+  a server and to 1 by a client).  If an invalid value is provided, the
+  recipient MUST generate a connection error of type TRANSPORT_PARAMETER_ERROR.
+  This is equivalent to sending a MAX_STREAM_ID ({{frame-max-stream-id}})
+  immediately after completing the handshake.  The maximum stream ID is set to 0

nit: "The maximum bidirectional stream ID"

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----==_mimepart_5a1f4fad7a5e8_17613fb99e46af2c13106e-- From nobody Wed Nov 29 16:25:50 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD2F1126E3A for ; Wed, 29 Nov 2017 16:25:48 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.453 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.453 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id moRCAWzKmenv for ; Wed, 29 Nov 2017 16:25:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (github-smtp2-ext7.iad.github.net [192.30.252.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1C1471241FC for ; Wed, 29 Nov 2017 16:25:47 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2017 16:25:46 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1512001546; bh=YIk5Ki9ugW1Y/XR7iKhOaFrOH9wuDNcToSHD8WMTul4=; h=From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=VQemhy7KIqh0duWI+2cUAYrV1fiGf+ePI8iv98RGfc7a11sHKjl8ClSU5piw4JtaL i0NmBNHflzAT7BLqkAgvqFWTejno4lEoz55eA3f5CYETwv/DiLzTMQEEdts9Tm8Qfq 2DJ9Ru6thc19Z9WdcoUWqRTQlH4Hm88Hu44J5wN8= From: janaiyengar Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Make initial_max_stream_id_x optional (#970) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5a1f500a719b0_43f23fbdf6bb0f281979a5"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: janaiyengar X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2017 00:25:49 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5a1f500a719b0_43f23fbdf6bb0f281979a5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I prefer to have explicit intent with max_stream_id of 0 in transport params, but this works too. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/970#issuecomment-348042219 ----==_mimepart_5a1f500a719b0_43f23fbdf6bb0f281979a5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I prefer to have explicit intent with max_stream_id of 0 in transport params, but this works too.

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Wow, that was sloppy. I should not write PRs, even simple ones, when on an IAB call.

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Merged #972.

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Also, I used the word "period" in a few places where "state" was more appropriate. And, I realized that if a shutdown has been negotiated, an endpoint might as well send APPLICATION_CLOSE with whatever error is appropriate there rather than to use CONNECTION_CLOSE, so it's back to closing frame rather than CONNECTION_CLOSE only for the last gasp packet. 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Also, I used the word "period" in a few places where "state" was more appropriate. And, I realized that if a shutdown has been negotiated, an endpoint might as well send APPLICATION_CLOSE with whatever error is appropriate there rather than to use CONNECTION_CLOSE, so it's back to closing frame rather than CONNECTION_CLOSE only for the last gasp packet. Closes #973. You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/974 -- Commit Summary -- * Followup to closing/draining changes -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (11) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/974.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/974.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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As Christian points out, we should recommend an error code. Also, I used the
word "period" in a few places where "state" was more appropriate. And, I
realized that if a shutdown has been negotiated, an endpoint might as well send
APPLICATION_CLOSE with whatever error is appropriate there rather than to use
CONNECTION_CLOSE, so it's back to closing frame rather than CONNECTION_CLOSE
only for the last gasp packet.

Closes #973.

You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/974

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  • Followup to closing/draining changes

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----==_mimepart_5a1f54e561757_74043fcdb09faf3473997-- From nobody Wed Nov 29 16:47:31 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E03801287A3 for ; Wed, 29 Nov 2017 16:47:29 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.615 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.615 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KMby33a8y-aw for ; Wed, 29 Nov 2017 16:47:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from o1.sgmail.github.com (o1.sgmail.github.com [192.254.114.176]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 89BE11286B1 for ; Wed, 29 Nov 2017 16:47:28 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=PhDq+d8qsqkqI0jT0o1YlF886KU=; b=vDFB2CskKMHHnHlM okBWPEGUKd1mhNgFHWz2CtAWQPeDFx0m6jfSn7juwfYas6CEV0xKb6NtfGdJCmd6 PQS6u16zl7L8ZKPYU4rlW1dYgYl9z2rgkvI6H9hxsjGHjixAnW3SM13hcu1D3Q90 AFkRc+UcJ3R4ewAuBRg3YZgkYfE= Received: by filter0606p1las1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0606p1las1-25070-5A1F551F-16 2017-11-30 00:47:27.658179941 +0000 UTC Received: from github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net [192.30.253.16]) by ismtpd0010p1iad1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id 7qJe48rsR0S_8FT-LDEw_Q for ; Thu, 30 Nov 2017 00:47:27.511 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2017 00:47:27 +0000 (UTC) From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Add separate transport parameter for unidirectional stream limit (#958) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5a1f551f65585_82b3fd33f99cf30691b5"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak0gqFvphokWA1yeim/uetwooREhUVy2PNG2rJ +WteoLEQfWIDOdNAVv3BFUdQwZprsrHxwU7YeNyr5wB6J2aIk26yqhJTyMuMpClGRW8Zq87s0ybVPI uN3FsRKkfyVRQtRKHy/p8jUYg0yKQhirrThYMDRBUIT7o9vbVB80z/cu6hcZiuf2qUyM5O5sggh7s2 M= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2017 00:47:30 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5a1f551f65585_82b3fd33f99cf30691b5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I would also, but I think that this is better for two reasons: * 0 is hard because it is only valid for client-initiated bidirectional streams, and you would have to create an exception in any validation checks. * Now that we have multiple types, it is more onerous to explicitly signal for every type, especially if you never plan to use certain type (as we will for server-initiated bidirectional streams in hq). -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/958#issuecomment-348045972 ----==_mimepart_5a1f551f65585_82b3fd33f99cf30691b5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I would also, but I think that this is better for two reasons:

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  • Now that we have multiple types, it is more onerous to explicitly signal= for every type, especially if you never plan to use certain type (as we wi= ll for server-initiated bidirectional streams in hq).

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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit janaiyengar commented on this pull request. > +An endpoint MAY use the following transport parameters: + +initial_max_stream_id_bidi (0x0002): + +: The initial maximum stream ID parameter contains the initial maximum stream + number the peer may initiate for bidirectional streams, encoded as an unsigned + 32-bit integer. This value MUST be a valid bidirectional stream ID for a + peer-initiated stream (that is, the two least significant bits are set to 0 by + a server and to 1 by a client). If an invalid value is provided, the + recipient MUST generate a connection error of type TRANSPORT_PARAMETER_ERROR. + Setting this parameter is equivalent to sending a MAX_STREAM_ID + ({{frame-max-stream-id}}) immediately after completing the handshake. The + maximum bidirectional stream ID is set to 0 if this parameter is absent, + preventing the creation of new bidirectional streams until a MAX_STREAM_ID + frame is sent. Note that a default value of 0 does not prevent the + cryptographic handshake stream (that is, stream 0) to be used. This is perhaps a difference in usage, but I would have said "from being used" instead of "to be used". -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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@janaiyengar commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +An endpoint MAY use the following transport parameters:
+
+initial_max_stream_id_bidi (0x0002):
+
+: The initial maximum stream ID parameter contains the initial maximum stream
+  number the peer may initiate for bidirectional streams, encoded as an unsigned
+  32-bit integer.  This value MUST be a valid bidirectional stream ID for a
+  peer-initiated stream (that is, the two least significant bits are set to 0 by
+  a server and to 1 by a client).  If an invalid value is provided, the
+  recipient MUST generate a connection error of type TRANSPORT_PARAMETER_ERROR.
+  Setting this parameter is equivalent to sending a MAX_STREAM_ID
+  ({{frame-max-stream-id}}) immediately after completing the handshake.  The
+  maximum bidirectional stream ID is set to 0 if this parameter is absent,
+  preventing the creation of new bidirectional streams until a MAX_STREAM_ID
+  frame is sent.  Note that a default value of 0 does not prevent the
+  cryptographic handshake stream (that is, stream 0) to be used.

This is perhaps a difference in usage, but I would have said "from being used" instead of "to be used".

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@huitema approved this pull request.

Just a nit. Otherwise I am fine with that.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  that receives a closing frame MAY send a single packet containing a
-CONNECTION_CLOSE frame before entering a draining period, but MUST NOT send
-further packets, which could result in a constant exchange of closing frames
-until the closing period on either peer ended.
+closing frame before entering a draining state, using the NO_ERROR code if no

You are replacing the "CONNECTION_CLOSE frame" reference by "closing frame". Actually, I think it is more logical to use the "Connection Close" frame there, since "Application Close" is suppose to only be done at the application's initiative.

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Agree with Mike. It is better to ignore obviously bogus packets than to react to them.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  that receives a closing frame MAY send a single packet containing a
-CONNECTION_CLOSE frame before entering a draining period, but MUST NOT send
-further packets, which could result in a constant exchange of closing frames
-until the closing period on either peer ended.
+closing frame before entering a draining state, using the NO_ERROR code if no

oops, yeah, that's obvious now, thanks

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----==_mimepart_5a1f584ee5057_45cd3fa2676cef28138033-- From nobody Wed Nov 29 17:01:21 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7AD112896F for ; Wed, 29 Nov 2017 17:01:16 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.798 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.798 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.199, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.001, NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id v7IG96j-ovfk for ; Wed, 29 Nov 2017 17:01:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from m71-131.mailgun.net (m71-131.mailgun.net [166.78.71.131]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D2F47124D6C for ; Wed, 29 Nov 2017 17:01:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha256; v=1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; q=dns/txt; s=mailo; t=1512003675; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-Type: Mime-Version: Subject: Message-ID: To: Reply-To: From: Date: Sender; bh=Oq6tvv553VJWISpT5/v/lNKO2GjU/StxuAFmkHWBYi8=; b=KzuJ7UTKsVtatHKMt1MZLVaYGtRamQes908YBuuNsX8hdCgjjn+gpSWtoTdRt3fuxv5Hv1yr apYelMEGjaOnVsFvwBRXCEwedHj89RmscwCAG0+Ma+/QykznKdxI1xWs3nxCYpEgxlVLevOm PrdvmlL8uczR7RyRmKvb/ZE1RuI= Sender: martin.thomson=gmail.com@github.com X-Mailgun-Sending-Ip: 166.78.71.131 X-Mailgun-Sid: WyJhNzYyYiIsICJxdWljLWlzc3Vlc0BpZXRmLm9yZyIsICI0MGYiXQ== Received: from github.com (Unknown [192.30.252.35]) by mxa.mailgun.org with ESMTP id 5a1f585b.7fbfd8561c30-smtp-out-n03; Thu, 30 Nov 2017 01:01:15 -0000 (UTC) Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2017 17:01:14 -0800 From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: Martin Thomson To: quic-issues@ietf.org Message-ID: <5a1f585aa9c3c_52033f8ec44edc38102122@hookshot-fe-92cdb05.cp1-iad.github.net.mail> Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] 0276c8: Make initial_max_stream_id_* optional and default ... 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Either closing frame causes all streams to immediately become closed; open streams can be assumed to be implicitly reset. -After sending a closing frame, endpoints immediately enter a closing period. +After sending a closing frame, endpoints immediately enter a closing state. "a" closing state -> "the" closing state, probably. > @@ -1716,11 +1716,12 @@ Note: control, which are not expected to be relevant for a closed connection. Retransmitting the final packet requires less state. -After receiving a closing frame, endpoints enter a draining period. An endpoint +After receiving a closing frame, endpoints enter a draining state. An endpoint ditto > that receives a closing frame MAY send a single packet containing a -CONNECTION_CLOSE frame before entering a draining period, but MUST NOT send -further packets, which could result in a constant exchange of closing frames -until the closing period on either peer ended. +closing frame before entering a draining state, using a CONNECTION_CLOSE frame +and a NO_ERROR code if no other code is more appropriate. An endpoint MUST NOT nit: since it is possible to send an APPLICATION_CLOSE frame as well, how about simply "using a CONNECTION_CLOSE frame and a NO_ERROR code if appropriate." -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/974#pullrequestreview-80050334 ----==_mimepart_5a1f58d394e09_3ae23fcd4bccaf3023604f Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@janaiyengar commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1699,7 +1699,7 @@ to terminate the connection immediately.  Either closing frame causes all
 streams to immediately become closed; open streams can be assumed to be
 implicitly reset.
 
-After sending a closing frame, endpoints immediately enter a closing period.
+After sending a closing frame, endpoints immediately enter a closing state.

"a" closing state -> "the" closing state, probably.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1716,11 +1716,12 @@ Note:
   control, which are not expected to be relevant for a closed connection.
   Retransmitting the final packet requires less state.
 
-After receiving a closing frame, endpoints enter a draining period.  An endpoint
+After receiving a closing frame, endpoints enter a draining state.  An endpoint

ditto

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  that receives a closing frame MAY send a single packet containing a
-CONNECTION_CLOSE frame before entering a draining period, but MUST NOT send
-further packets, which could result in a constant exchange of closing frames
-until the closing period on either peer ended.
+closing frame before entering a draining state, using a CONNECTION_CLOSE frame
+and a NO_ERROR code if no other code is more appropriate.  An endpoint MUST NOT

nit: since it is possible to send an APPLICATION_CLOSE frame as well, how about simply "using a CONNECTION_CLOSE frame and a NO_ERROR code if appropriate."

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -543,6 +544,17 @@ the server supports, as shown below.
 ~~~
 {: #version-negotiation-format title="Version Negotiation Packet"}
 
+The value in the Unused field is selected randomly by the server. The Connection

This will make it impossible to determine the packet type by looking at the type byte.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -543,6 +544,17 @@ the server supports, as shown below.
 ~~~
 {: #version-negotiation-format title="Version Negotiation Packet"}
 
+The value in the Unused field is selected randomly by the server. The Connection

That is true, but you can look at the type byte and version fields together to determine it. Also note that this is only sent on the server -> client direction, so you're not going to hit boxes that need to scale this sort of check.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -543,6 +544,17 @@ the server supports, as shown below.
 ~~~
 {: #version-negotiation-format title="Version Negotiation Packet"}
 
+The value in the Unused field is selected randomly by the server. The Connection

True, but why grease it at all? Note that with this proposal, you can't trust the long header type byte at all, since every reserved value could also just be the random value of the version negotiation packet.
This will make parsing long header packets quite painful, you will always have to look at the other fields to determine the true packet byte.
For middle boxes, the version negotiation packet will be clearly distinguishable anyway, so I don't see the need to play tricks with the type byte.

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----==_mimepart_5a1f606c96917_74333fcdb09faf34450047-- From nobody Wed Nov 29 17:41:57 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B567127978 for ; Wed, 29 Nov 2017 17:41:56 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.615 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.615 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 68cgcF87jGZG for ; Wed, 29 Nov 2017 17:41:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from o7.sgmail.github.com (o7.sgmail.github.com [167.89.101.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F1808126FDC for ; Wed, 29 Nov 2017 17:41:54 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=c4nugKHhQXXPF61G62Bl3fdPLdM=; b=lLIaXvCah/Rcnopy NjhH6cFv6vGIx0X99uUHMv9C4byafIyN4LFM9hx9AgjdsPPH961Xv6l3xvQgHFA7 gPPnV4Bf/GqzEB44Ym1KHn+d1+ToBYLdx7kR2SXfq40wo7PkZJDbEWpJFTtY79MU OSD9/K+9BuIn9vX24y+NHXhBVPc= Received: by filter0362p1iad2.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0362p1iad2-19007-5A1F61E1-11 2017-11-30 01:41:53.854578343 +0000 UTC Received: from github-smtp2b-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (github-smtp2b-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net [192.30.253.17]) by ismtpd0007p1iad1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id bDTHhwhFSbyjTbJE187aZw for ; Thu, 30 Nov 2017 01:41:53.863 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2017 01:41:54 +0000 (UTC) From: Subodh Iyengar Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] ACK Frames should be in Increasing Packet Number Order (#969) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5a1f61e1b3b84_b093fc09e446f3044075"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: siyengar X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak3C4LBs2CZQGimvBgqkDQh9ke6qC8sSx9M+PR jnXqh5GrOCE9/iSJ7X1h2kfgzxiauxqt7Ht9GmlBY4SXKWpNmx3wkktTfJAfKa01byMTiOOr2pKlIG vdPNwYWMpuM/cfKvPlVcOiiTwlTQSCroKIbD6yL4/MvQkx3pICFTS3jU6OuasbK8x1v7XDhuO8SWE0 k= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2017 01:41:56 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5a1f61e1b3b84_b093fc09e446f3044075 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think the newest first should be the order. The reason is that QUIC prefers to ACK newer packets over older packets. If we do oldest first, then we would have to do one pass over the packet to calculate the space that we have before we decide which is the oldest packet we can actually encode in the ack. This is harder to do that having the decoder just use a reverse iterator. For this reason I support the current newest first encoding -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/969#issuecomment-348055583 ----==_mimepart_5a1f61e1b3b84_b093fc09e446f3044075 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I think the newest first should be the order. The reason is that QUIC pr= efers to ACK newer packets over older packets. If we do oldest first, then = we would have to do one pass over the packet to calculate the space that we= have before we decide which is the oldest packet we can actually encode in= the ack. This is harder to do that having the decoder just use a reverse i= terator. For this reason I support the current newest first encoding

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+1, this is a follow up to my comment in your PR?

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Why is min_rtt the value based on actual flight times (before subtract= ing the ack delay)? Subtracting the ack delay will decrease this value, s= o the real rtt will be larger than min_rtt.

We should consider the attack where a peer sends ack delays such that = the rtt will end up very close to 0. That way, the other side would incre= ase the congestion window, and also allocate more receive buffer space (a= ssuming it does flow-control tuning). One variant of this attack could al= so be sending ack delay times that are always bigger than the ac= tual RTT, so that the other side doesn't have any useful RTT measurement = at all.

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= ----==_mimepart_5a1f63c0247ff_8093fd33f99cf3042962f-- From nobody Wed Nov 29 17:54:34 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 420A1127B5A for ; Wed, 29 Nov 2017 17:54:33 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.998 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.998 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HiOoXMO892qH for ; Wed, 29 Nov 2017 17:54:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (github-smtp2-ext4.iad.github.net [192.30.252.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1F109126FDC for ; Wed, 29 Nov 2017 17:54:31 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2017 17:54:30 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1512006870; bh=Vea1Bp+jCDdXR2ZKmLOebPWhtJSnUFNjSt37qR5DhKk=; h=From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=ftYdaJUcSNdsKckVndv5TEfzcQi48SP7TovZyEZUISixImqfUUVkDKExu86zmroXD XoZ+0ys6ubEWnvYej12e3kQykWF7QB0QBxup6vY869b15ithh3OkqL0lwAKzBuGaK7 FoDddTOi+kJ+tl9gi7mYFenfF3CAER87ILstswKk= From: janaiyengar Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Move negotiated_version (#959) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5a1f64d678497_ada3fc09e446f30629093"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: janaiyengar X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2017 01:54:33 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5a1f64d678497_ada3fc09e446f30629093 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit janaiyengar approved this pull request. This is basically what GQUIC does. Christian should take a look, but LGTM modulo one nit. > supported_versions list and - if version negotiation was performed - that it would have selected the negotiated version. A client MUST terminate the -connection with a VERSION_NEGOTIATION_ERROR error code if the -negotiated_version value is not included in the supported_versions list. A -client MUST terminate with a VERSION_NEGOTIATION_ERROR error code if -version negotiation occurred but it would have selected a different version -based on the value of the supported_versions list. +connection with a VERSION_NEGOTIATION_ERROR error code if the current QUIC +version is not listed in the supported_versions list. A client MUST terminate +with a VERSION_NEGOTIATION_ERROR error code if version negotiation occurred but +it would have selected a different version if the versions in the +supported_versions list appears in a Version Negotiation packet. This is a run-on. The old sentence reads fine -- leave it as it is. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/959#pullrequestreview-80057739 ----==_mimepart_5a1f64d678497_ada3fc09e446f30629093 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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This is basically what GQUIC does. Christian should take a look, but LGTM modulo one nit.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  supported_versions list and - if version negotiation was performed - that it
 would have selected the negotiated version.  A client MUST terminate the
-connection with a VERSION_NEGOTIATION_ERROR error code if the
-negotiated_version value is not included in the supported_versions list.  A
-client MUST terminate with a VERSION_NEGOTIATION_ERROR error code if
-version negotiation occurred but it would have selected a different version
-based on the value of the supported_versions list.
+connection with a VERSION_NEGOTIATION_ERROR error code if the current QUIC
+version is not listed in the supported_versions list.  A client MUST terminate
+with a VERSION_NEGOTIATION_ERROR error code if version negotiation occurred but
+it would have selected a different version if the versions in the
+supported_versions list appears in a Version Negotiation packet.

This is a run-on. The old sentence reads fine -- leave it as it is.

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I believe what @huitema is proposing is exactly what GQUIC does.

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@janaiyengar approved this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -687,7 +687,7 @@ Pseudocode for SetLossDetectionAlarm follows:
       alarm_duration = alarm_duration * (2 ^ handshake_count)
     else if (loss_time != 0):

I dont think this is an issue. This is at the beginning of the connection, and loss_time only applies to early retransmit. It's possible that loss_time is > TLP or RTO period, but that would be very very strange.

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----==_mimepart_5a1f66c35dc4a_67243fa0076bef2c71016b-- From nobody Wed Nov 29 18:10:12 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C163D1287A3 for ; Wed, 29 Nov 2017 18:10:10 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.473 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.473 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NWEZU35U415O for ; Wed, 29 Nov 2017 18:10:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from o3.sgmail.github.com (o3.sgmail.github.com [192.254.112.98]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7FEF0126FDC for ; Wed, 29 Nov 2017 18:10:09 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=39Uwiq0kNUaULQLef3aH43IimjY=; b=Se1gpaRjTw2lAYqf EI2LspXX9dNjvx524qhURaz5KSvetPlKYf2m4xhbKncdY96OwCtilegxQE6SGIiF Oh2uAex50hpEaCtWzGXcNyU5YonyIjNacB/3gbSn7GRNyQg/mHQByTIqa5Zx/bg5 ck+iU2nsQPbQMIdP0CijuqqoIV0= Received: by filter0389p1iad2.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0389p1iad2-11988-5A1F687F-15 2017-11-30 02:10:08.017740424 +0000 UTC Received: from github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net [192.30.253.16]) by ismtpd0008p1iad1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id eh3UOJW_QMiuh8Bc18hIMA for ; Thu, 30 Nov 2017 02:10:08.279 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2017 02:10:08 +0000 (UTC) From: Nick Banks Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] ACK Frames should be in Increasing Packet Number Order (#969) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5a1f68802ea61_62813fc51e9d0f306639a4"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: nibanks X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak3ehSsnEJ5RopvpiNT/j/Y1clwnztcGbiXjtN 9Iy9uBnWaGtqrN+djAjxmP6QaT217jdn3uzpu9Mxbn6KvAm35YUhp/JPyGWr5ytql5OFwLYEZ8W1DG RYT1/gOSj4IIQYDdbJRC4ZhCfmkNLIjsu9dOfCRMEX6B+AFFP7D0YxYrbEnHQwEhoj5yH4k0ZFpPrs 0= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2017 02:10:11 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5a1f68802ea61_62813fc51e9d0f306639a4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @siyengar The use of variable-length integers prevents reverse traversal over the raw ACK frame. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/969#issuecomment-348060251 ----==_mimepart_5a1f68802ea61_62813fc51e9d0f306639a4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@siyengar The use of variable-length integers prevents reverse traversal over the raw ACK frame.

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The idea here (I think) is to remove the exposure to the ack delay being= inflated (either by malice or by accident) when calculating min_rtt. You = can still measure RTT based on packet arrival times if you assume that the = peer can't opportunistically send ACKs.

The observed RTT would then have a lower bound. That lower bound might = be higher than the actual minimum RTT, but it will be less exposed to manip= ulation through tweaking the ack delay field.

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oh i see what you want to do, you want to handle acks while parsing th= e frame, ya in that case you can't have a reverse iterator. We parse the = packet and then handle the acks which is why we can have a reverse iterat= or. I can see that it's shitty either way, ascending or descending. It ma= y be less shitty as descending :)

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -543,6 +544,17 @@ the server supports, as shown below.
 ~~~
 {: #version-negotiation-format title="Version Negotiation Packet"}
 
+The value in the Unused field is selected randomly by the server. The Connection

Removing version negotiation from consideration makes it possible to grease the type field completely. Creating a carve-out for version negotiation makes it a little harder.

Long header packets are rare, so it seems like hitting the slow path is tolerable.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -543,6 +544,17 @@ the server supports, as shown below.
 ~~~
 {: #version-negotiation-format title="Version Negotiation Packet"}
 
+The value in the Unused field is selected randomly by the server. The Connection

We could exclude the code points defined for Long Header types from the random values that can be used for the greased type byte of the version negotiation packet. That way, we get greasing and easy parsing at the same time.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  that receives a closing frame MAY send a single packet containing a
-CONNECTION_CLOSE frame before entering a draining period, but MUST NOT send
-further packets, which could result in a constant exchange of closing frames
-until the closing period on either peer ended.
+closing frame before entering a draining state, using the NO_ERROR code if no

I guess the correct text would be "send a CONNECTION CLOSE unless the application has already requested closing the connection." But that gets kind of long, and we can also let the developers decide. In any case, a peer in the closing state has to expect either due to the possibility of simultaneous close, so I guess it does not matter for interop.

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We don't have greasing yet and nor do we have a spin bit. Though #956 was an attempt to avoid collisions, nor does it guarantee avoidance in future. We can assess the impact on use with 7983, for which I recommend following the guidance [here](https://martinthomson.github.io/mux-principles/draft-thomson-mux-principles.html). In other words, we aren't obligated to continue to make it work, though we might try. That leaves the heuristics (which includes the STUN cookie). As discussed, those can be used, but are inefficient and awkward. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/426#issuecomment-348093217 ----==_mimepart_5a1fa2663ebd4_285f3ff45fad6f2c195195 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Can we try not to lump all the issues together? We don't have greasin= g yet and nor do we have a spin bit. Though #956 was an attempt to avoid collisions, no= r does it guarantee avoidance in future. We can assess the impact on use= with 7983, for which I recommend following the guidance here. In other words, we aren't obligated to co= ntinue to make it work, though we might try.

That leaves the heuristics (which includes the STUN cookie). As discu= ssed, those can be used, but are inefficient and awkward.

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Enters a, not the draining state?

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It would be good to avoid temp allocation beyond a fixed stack allocation during decoding. There is no longer a 256 entry limit.

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I don't see a problem with saying that a server MAY include connection= ID even if the client says omit_connection_id, so this is reasonable to = do. However, I don't understand the motivating use case. ICMP includes on= ly 8 bytes of the IP datagram, which is basically the UDP header. The con= nection ID will not be echoed even if it is present in the offending pack= et. How do you get the connection ID in the ICMP message?

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= ----==_mimepart_5a1fb07592f6f_75d03fadeb9e6f282799a4-- From nobody Wed Nov 29 23:37:18 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B011128DF2 for ; Wed, 29 Nov 2017 23:37:17 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.799 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.799 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-2.8, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CeLZpythoGZO for ; Wed, 29 Nov 2017 23:37:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from o6.sgmail.github.com (o6.sgmail.github.com [192.254.113.101]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1B6411279E5 for ; Wed, 29 Nov 2017 23:37:16 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=OUGte4ScpQdPN9gKNfUKQObJWqY=; b=IrHCa8s6AIOag+nN fTCV9Pwf40lHdNHMWL0lJt56EbQuxP69gaZWohr7AMkYRLkdXGAKN4hHxooJuZK8 BfBNroYrbtE5cqKZhFx3ox3yu/F3+L4pYP0+swjkqO12LKbFMMuMMgymi65F9wC3 JCdLzpQeMFYGxup0oNa6kUL3YOQ= Received: by filter0961p1mdw1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0961p1mdw1-30408-5A1FB52A-A 2017-11-30 07:37:14.879154408 +0000 UTC Received: from github-smtp2b-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (github-smtp2b-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net [192.30.253.17]) by ismtpd0017p1iad2.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id Cid7K1CrRWCwYivCPCBQ3g for ; Thu, 30 Nov 2017 07:37:14.818 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2017 07:37:15 +0000 (UTC) From: janaiyengar Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] QUIC header format/demultiplexing (#426) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5a1fb52aab8ff_7cdf3ff095d80f34329a5"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: janaiyengar X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak19pxdpS6vSHijsa9qkyRyu+FWEpuuzFD9WHw hrSV1kCLH1oRQCwSjHZwvkC/6qKQlq34obHALfQIyIzXKQ3DektdeCKqSD2M5S7Aie+bstO914jfTb KZix2F1JPunaGgc9Ks0GK2ZYSEyLWuWkYt9j+gdm7N4jfMx/BRUv1aTY5TUhX0Wwfk507XKafKmmJQ g= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2017 07:37:17 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5a1fb52aab8ff_7cdf3ff095d80f34329a5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thank you for your draft on muxing principles -- I think that should have been part of the discussion here prior to committing #956. I agree that we don't need to design for things that haven't been agreed upon yet (spin bit, greasing), but it's a conversation that may (yet again) have us changing packet types. I don't see harm in anticipating it, but I agree that we shouldn't hold up progress in anticipation of uncertain issues. That said, AFAICT, we have not agreed on creating a scheme that muxes QUIC with everything in RFC 7983. From the interim, I took away that STUN was probably important, but we didn't care much about the rest of the protocols. That was what I heard @csperkins ask for, and it is what I agreed with -- that maybe we should allow muxing with STUN for now, and I had argued that we leave the rest out. I'm still of that opinion. Practically, if we're only muxing with STUN, we could use a different solution space altogether (basically reserve those 4 types and we're done), but we seem to be trying to accomodate all protocols in 7983. I'd like to see agreement on that. And if we're only doing STUN, then I've missed the discussion on inefficiencies in using the STUN cookie -- it's not on this bug, where is that discussion? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/426#issuecomment-348106690 ----==_mimepart_5a1fb52aab8ff_7cdf3ff095d80f34329a5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Thank you for your draft on muxing principles -- I think that should hav= e been part of the discussion here prior to committing #956.

I agree that we don't need to design for things that haven't been agreed= upon yet (spin bit, greasing), but it's a conversation that may (yet again= ) have us changing packet types. I don't see harm in anticipating it, but I= agree that we shouldn't hold up progress in anticipation of uncertain issu= es.

That said, AFAICT, we have not agreed on creating a scheme that muxes QU= IC with everything in RFC 7983. From the interim, I took away that STUN was= probably important, but we didn't care much about the rest of the protocol= s. That was what I heard @csperkins ask for, and it is what I agreed with -- that = maybe we should allow muxing with STUN for now, and I had argued that we le= ave the rest out. I'm still of that opinion. Practically, if we're only mux= ing with STUN, we could use a different solution space altogether (basicall= y reserve those 4 types and we're done), but we seem to be trying to accomo= date all protocols in 7983. I'd like to see agreement on that.

And if we're only doing STUN, then I've missed the discussion on ineffic= iencies in using the STUN cookie -- it's not on this bug, where is that dis= cussion?

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= ----==_mimepart_5a1fb52aab8ff_7cdf3ff095d80f34329a5-- From nobody Wed Nov 29 23:44:08 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B60B1292FC for ; Wed, 29 Nov 2017 23:44:07 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.615 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.615 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gQJoE9c1aS5y for ; Wed, 29 Nov 2017 23:44:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from o10.sgmail.github.com (o10.sgmail.github.com [167.89.101.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 456B21292F4 for ; Wed, 29 Nov 2017 23:44:04 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=cA+rNyvxNbJiOLYVSxhyDpDrqFg=; b=NhWuhtx7PxOnCsUr 46UkS2Py0G3fR69Yryb8NjL0ZgRyd8EGEyQUzvoqIr6Loc7MGRRjraByHJgMYZLj J35EnmY81iei1mgnaTGXGWuhb939/W5nMgvcm/6YLN0XK0kojJoG9kZ6JwTWjk6G ppisktxgDCayWEPclpKzK5exhLE= Received: by filter0114p1las1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0114p1las1-5707-5A1FB6C3-3 2017-11-30 07:44:03.16968271 +0000 UTC Received: from github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net [192.30.253.16]) by ismtpd0004p1iad1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id 3LoVbCS0T_-4E6h80xMQIQ for ; Thu, 30 Nov 2017 07:44:02.986 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2017 07:44:03 +0000 (UTC) From: Marten Seemann Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] QUIC header format/demultiplexing (#426) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5a1fb6c2d613f_55663fd5d6594f3412304d"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: marten-seemann X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak2GCqiSiWo7Uut1UEbCXyXMQHWAKIOQzL5dUR yXABVsvHr471UbJ+7wM7rhE7t/icUFwGxDiK803YYw8IfEdOg4ZxPaMjnugUdDINZBCRmUWNfJDEb+ 5E1N4BrkEN8RHDysNNjeHWOsvuCiddfdjvh7KOPXPRlqMiUM9HEoIKKeyTJDQjDzSU3d7RsK4PeVTt o= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2017 07:44:07 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5a1fb6c2d613f_55663fd5d6594f3412304d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If we only care about STUN, we could revert the inversion of the connection ID flag in #956. This would make the transition from gQUIC to IETF QUIC easy, and it would give us freedom how we use the remaining short header bits (as long as we make sure that 0x0 - 0x3 are reserved for STUN), be it for measurability bits or for greasing. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/426#issuecomment-348107983 ----==_mimepart_5a1fb6c2d613f_55663fd5d6594f3412304d Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

If we only care about STUN, we could revert the inversion of the connect= ion ID flag in #956. Th= is would make the transition from gQUIC to IETF QUIC easy, and it would giv= e us freedom how we use the remaining short header bits (as long as we make= sure that 0x0 - 0x3 are reserved for STUN), be it for measurability bits o= r for greasing.

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I think it's worth considering all the relevant issues when making this = change, because at some point in the near future, we need to stop changing = the type byte for long enough to deploy some production code on the interne= t.

As Marten said, switching back to "connection ID" from "omit connection = ID" would leave us in a place where we can do anything we want with the rem= aining 6 bits, including greasing and/or spin and still be able to coexist = easily with GQUIC, so I propose we do that unless there's a strong argument= against it?

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----==_mimepart_5a2038a22b985_13393f840d262f341997ef-- From nobody Thu Nov 30 08:58:59 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 365F112714F for ; Thu, 30 Nov 2017 08:58:58 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Q-ezSYERHLgA for ; Thu, 30 Nov 2017 08:58:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from github-smtp2b-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (github-smtp2-ext2.iad.github.net [192.30.252.193]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C99461200FC for ; Thu, 30 Nov 2017 08:58:56 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2017 08:58:55 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1512061136; bh=5XyFGUeDZYsijB8xb/l1TWzDRJF0L5VGbVpnijsJzXA=; h=From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=JRLe02MZisHwluQZi4fLxJFgMeGllS5fL5Upvdx7x6vJ0iFYCFsLzxd5Jvn6sNnaE hnS8uO7pJb/tvyzst2FPZIlL6x6aNLudFLwr4pPfbjGy4AFKNAof+2o+XdKFTUAuhB ZmTdFUkiSt7J2o9XG+v8zinlBlISjPiD+gxdUuG0= From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Ack delay in SRTT computation (#961) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5a2038cff32a0_16dd23f84c9182f3032625c"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2017 16:58:58 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5a2038cff32a0_16dd23f84c9182f3032625c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Because min_rtt never increases, and at least some of your RTT samples are likely to have essentially 0 ack delay, it's much safer to not consider ack delay. And as you mention Marten, it'd be pretty easy to set the peer's min_rtt to 0 otherwise. In practice, GQUIC used to allow ack delay to be included in min_rtt, and every once in a while this resulted in an RTT very close to 0 and some weird issues for the bits of code that actually the min_rtt. Not allowing ack delay to be considered has been much safer and seems to result in much more realistic min_rtt values, based on looking at traces. Take a look at #975 for a writeup of this. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/961#issuecomment-348252008 ----==_mimepart_5a2038cff32a0_16dd23f84c9182f3032625c Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Because min_rtt never increases, and at least some of your RTT samples= are likely to have essentially 0 ack delay, it's much safer to not consi= der ack delay.

And as you mention Marten, it'd be pretty easy to set the peer's min_r= tt to 0 otherwise.

In practice, GQUIC used to allow ack delay to be included in min_rtt, = and every once in a while this resulted in an RTT very close to 0 and som= e weird issues for the bits of code that actually the min_rtt. Not allow= ing ack delay to be considered has been much safer and seems to result in= much more realistic min_rtt values, based on looking at traces.

Take a look at #= 975 for a writeup of this.

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@m= artinthomson, I don't think I missed it, though it's entirely possibl= e I misinterpreted it. You said:

I think that we need to be clearer about the use of the long header he= re. I don't think that we should say that it has a long header, only that= it sets the bit (so that recipients will be able to look for the version= field). And we need to explain further about how this is expected to be = identified by a recipient.

The PR now says:

A Version Negotiation packet [...] does not use the packet headers def= ined above. Upon receipt by a client, it will appear to be a packet using= the long header, but will be identified as a Version Negotiation packet = based on the Version field.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -543,6 +544,17 @@ the server supports, as shown below.
 ~~~
 {: #version-negotiation-format title="Version Negotiation Packet"}
 
+The value in the Unused field is selected randomly by the server. The Connection

"the other fields" => version. Since the type byte is version-specific, you should always confirm that the version is what you expect before attempting to interpret the type byte. (Should we perhaps mention this in the details of handling incoming packets?)

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This diagram didn't completely catch up with the conversion to using AES-GCM on cleartext packets. I believe I've caught all the errors.

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One comment/question, but looks good otherwise.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2675,201 +2676,291 @@ created, it MUST close the connection with error code STREAM_STATE_ERROR.
 Stream ID 0 (0x0) is reserved for the cryptographic handshake.  Stream 0 MUST
 NOT be used for application data, and is the first client-initiated stream.
 
-A QUIC endpoint MUST NOT reuse a Stream ID.  Streams MUST be created
-in sequential order.  Open streams can be used in any order.  Streams
-that are used out of order result in lower-numbered streams in the
-same direction being counted as open.
+A QUIC endpoint MUST NOT reuse a Stream ID.  Open streams can be used in any

This used to be Streams MUST be created in sequential order. I think there's an open issue just for that, so I'd rather keep that as is in this PR, unless it's somehow necessary to change it here?

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
-If the application resets a stream that is already in the "closed" state, a
-RST_STREAM frame MAY still be sent in order to cancel retransmissions of
-previously-sent STREAM frames.
+~~~
+       o
+       | Recv STREAM / STREAM_BLOCKED / RST_STREAM
+       | Open Paired Stream (bidirectional)
+       | Recv MAX_STREAM_DATA
+       v

I don't think so?

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Regarding your pseudo code, I think there are a lot of ways to consume a= n ACK. In quic-go, we chose a completely different approach, since iteratin= g over a range sent by the client would make us vulnerable for DoS (when a = peer sends a large range).

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

>  
 Like TCP, QUIC calculates both smoothed RTT and RTT variance as specified in
 {{?RFC6298}}.
 
+Min RTT is the minimum RTT measured over the connection, prior to adjusting

A connection might be long lived, so it kind of feels weird to have this value calculated over the whole lifetime of the connection. Maybe this is ok, since we're only using Min RTT as a sanity check for the ACK delay sent by the peer.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -588,6 +597,11 @@ Pseudocode for OnAckReceived and UpdateRtt follow:
 
 
    UpdateRtt(latest_rtt):

Add the second parameter here.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

>  
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 {{?RFC6298}}.
 
+Min RTT is the minimum RTT measured over the connection, prior to adjusting

BBR does use windowed min, but I think this is a fairly standard definition of min_rtt.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -543,6 +544,17 @@ the server supports, as shown below.
 ~~~
 {: #version-negotiation-format title="Version Negotiation Packet"}
 
+The value in the Unused field is selected randomly by the server. The Connection

Ok, I didn't think about multiple version. Since the type byte version dependent, I'd argue that we shouldn't grease it at all for version negotiation packets.This would simplify the parsing logic, since you could identify the version negotiation packet by just looking at it's type byte (which is a QUIC invariant). For all other packets, you'd know the version anyway (because they're received after version negotiation).
If we want to grease, we could define a greasing mechanism for long header packets.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -543,6 +544,17 @@ the server supports, as shown below.
 ~~~
 {: #version-negotiation-format title="Version Negotiation Packet"}
 
+The value in the Unused field is selected randomly by the server. The Connection

But the greasing mechanism for long-header packets would likely be version-specific. I think the point here is that "version 0" doesn't actually define any semantics for the Type field because it doesn't define any types; it defines a single type, and the value in that field is irrelevant once you've seen the version.

So the parsing logic would be:

if( in_handshake ) {
  switch(packet.version) {
    what_i_sent:  switch(packet.type) { ... }
    0:  version_negotiation(packet)
    default:  return;
  }
else {
  if(packet.version != connection.version) return;
  ...
}

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@ma= rten-seemann If we changed the ACK frame to ascending order, Larg= est Acknowledged would become Smallest Acknowledged and= all the deltas would reverse direction. You wouldn't encode anything twice= .

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -543,6 +544,17 @@ the server supports, as shown below.
 ~~~
 {: #version-negotiation-format title="Version Negotiation Packet"}
 
+The value in the Unused field is selected randomly by the server. The Connection

We should move this to #963, since this is a discussion about whether the issue in #963 is a problem or a feature.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

>  
 Like TCP, QUIC calculates both smoothed RTT and RTT variance as specified in
 {{?RFC6298}}.
 
+Min RTT is the minimum RTT measured over the connection, prior to adjusting

I think it's ok... we can get fancy here (with windowed min), but I think this is good for a simple safeguard.

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----==_mimepart_5a20719911764_4ff43fa14dd4cf2857318-- From nobody Thu Nov 30 13:01:35 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 264EB1294DB for ; Thu, 30 Nov 2017 13:01:19 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.615 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.615 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id oDDHBkS8KOIg for ; Thu, 30 Nov 2017 13:01:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from o8.sgmail.github.com (o8.sgmail.github.com [167.89.101.199]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 221071294D4 for ; Thu, 30 Nov 2017 13:01:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=FG7/PwRG5bcKjIXgjc4xQDAfjCE=; b=Q/ySf4XbHjUlsK5q sgq7NM5WrPgfqqpClBRruYMBcq4yJz8WlXSANe4oeT3aCoE9/2DeVusdmya1hvnG O9EM8dmTilnRP695zrO8t1sQkSThvYDHepI0/L9OFnKKVfmqsxyM+ORF5XenBTJr iKeWuX+avyXjCFNwbAozYWLqI+8= Received: by filter0870p1mdw1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0870p1mdw1-9109-5A20719C-19 2017-11-30 21:01:16.846423993 +0000 UTC Received: from github-smtp2b-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (github-smtp2b-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net [192.30.253.17]) by ismtpd0024p1iad2.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id aprNsphVRxmET4Zft5bg3Q for ; Thu, 30 Nov 2017 21:01:16.818 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2017 21:01:17 +0000 (UTC) From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Version 0 is Version Negotiation (#968) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5a20719c7874c_49793fb5eba04f34514a8"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak2Vl7GKvtlBNRinFPTypVq3LyG2oTwNEkle4u wVsnRNG+SNt3kqs9GoY7vejdCanlg7tGTl5QhbQ0THwNHHSyNh9Z0+5t7PHlyeTKmDxNNeNOliTdez 78TKrJN617Zgk3YcMANOEc8A1oM71gHRHhXSsz0bywcBItmMbOlRvx+OVrfVevEcG9xlj2lhT3NMzW I= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2017 21:01:19 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5a20719c7874c_49793fb5eba04f34514a8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Martin has a draft with limited circulation so far pulling out the invariants into a separate document that hopefully addresses some of these concerns, @mikkelfj. The current proposal in that draft is close to what's in 5.8, though: - The long/short header bit - The Connection ID and Version fields in long headers - The Connection ID bit, and the Connection ID field if present, in short headers -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/968#issuecomment-348319481 ----==_mimepart_5a20719c7874c_49793fb5eba04f34514a8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Martin has a draft with limited circulation so far pulling out the invar= iants into a separate document that hopefully addresses some of these conce= rns, @mikkel= fj. The current proposal in that draft is close to what's in 5.8, thou= gh:

  • The long/short header bit
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  • The Connection ID bit, and the Connection ID field if present, in short= headers

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Defining a fixed value for the type byte of the version negotiation pack= et has the nice property that for the client, the only thing you need to do= when parsing a packet header is look at the type byte (it's the same princ= iple I'm arguing for in #= 426).

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I'm willing to take a slightly slower path in the cases where that's not true. On a client, that's less of a problem (I think), because at any given time, there are at most two versions you could get -- the one you sent, or version negotiation. That means that the type value could be quasi-invariant -- it's version-dependent, except that some value has to be reserved for version negotiation, but since the server obviously didn't speak your version that value has to be fixed across versions. I don't like something being kinda-sorta-invariant, but it would work. On a server, where you come into an initial packet with no advance knowledge of the connection's version, the space is infinite, so the process *must* be to find the long header bit, find the version field, and then either start version negotiation (if you don't recognize it) or begin version-specific parsing (if you do). Servers will have to look at more than the first byte to establish the expected packet layout. And if we're willing to say that you have to look at the version field to figure out the packet layout, then I think the requirement becomes: - From the first byte, you can identify the location of the Version field - If you already know the version, you can identify the packet layout from the first byte (but please verify the version) -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/963#issuecomment-348322783 ----==_mimepart_5a2074b5918fa_57cd3fb8f72e6f2c488d1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

That's a desire I'm sympathetic to, but a packet inherently cannot be se= lf-describing from the first byte unless you already know what version you'= re interpreting the first byte against. I'm willing to take a slightly slo= wer path in the cases where that's not true.

On a client, that's less of a problem (I think), because at any given ti= me, there are at most two versions you could get -- the one you sent, or ve= rsion negotiation. That means that the type value could be quasi-invariant= -- it's version-dependent, except that some value has to be reserved for v= ersion negotiation, but since the server obviously didn't speak your versio= n that value has to be fixed across versions. I don't like something being= kinda-sorta-invariant, but it would work.

On a server, where you come into an initial packet with no advance knowl= edge of the connection's version, the space is infinite, so the process must be to find the long header bit, find the version field, and then= either start version negotiation (if you don't recognize it) or begin vers= ion-specific parsing (if you do). Servers will have to look at more than t= he first byte to establish the expected packet layout.

And if we're willing to say that you have to look at the version field t= o figure out the packet layout, then I think the requirement becomes:

  • From the first byte, you can identify the location of the Version field=
  • If you already know the version, you can identify the packet layout fro= m the first byte (but please verify the version)

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----==_mimepart_5a207ed52aeb0_62a13fd9022a8f30981de-- From nobody Thu Nov 30 13:57:56 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A26EA126BF6 for ; Thu, 30 Nov 2017 13:57:54 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.615 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.615 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AGsXIuIYfXZp for ; Thu, 30 Nov 2017 13:57:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from o8.sgmail.github.com (o8.sgmail.github.com [167.89.101.199]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9FA251205D3 for ; Thu, 30 Nov 2017 13:57:53 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=RJnhV6XBi4kx3wHmuBFzTAM3Isw=; b=nI2R9UJtB7S/pQkR tww6tWjSpOewum9hY15SmVmSpQ97+Cts8nIuRUubRrvPgKfalw+4D7dv8gb5aJyu e3dqLcsHslTdcxvLxHLvliveOkv7MVF9wOGTWGkYdu5utOxk1tfWnbk4NF9bfz5Q e+lXM1GgKmFFO5s7rw0rAwmFess= Received: by filter0156p1iad2.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0156p1iad2-5061-5A207EDF-11 2017-11-30 21:57:52.058778818 +0000 UTC Received: from github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net [192.30.253.16]) by ismtpd0007p1iad1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id FXscF3u3Ttmns_lXmahYNw for ; Thu, 30 Nov 2017 21:57:51.949 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2017 21:57:52 +0000 (UTC) From: MikkelFJ Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] One packet type in invariants (#963) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5a207edfb42a3_2941a3fe3ba1a8f28592e4"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: mikkelfj X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak1dh7nz2TwLdyFVVoeFKvs9/VxqwY7UK+RXZP PY/y4GASK1uak0o3hHvmYfO1MNgxBqJoV13mfAFP6BHAEppwFZN9hgBtcDqyqjJN6HTzPnph/79b4b hgArA0NmEDLk8cGlJl9mSmFfVCCqW/spDTn4d6Oq2WNpV6uZryUBpL60dw== Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2017 21:57:55 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5a207edfb42a3_2941a3fe3ba1a8f28592e4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'd argue for testing long header bit, then check for version 0 and for other known versions. I'd argue against randommizing the type byte for version 0. The reason being that it makes it difficult to multiplex other protocols over the same connection. QUIC version numbers may also be chosen very carefully to avoid conflicts with other protocols where there might be conflicts beyond the first byte when the high bit is set. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/963#issuecomment-348334055 ----==_mimepart_5a207edfb42a3_2941a3fe3ba1a8f28592e4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I'd argue for testing long header bit, then check for version 0 and for = other known versions.

I'd argue against randommizing the type byte for version 0. The reason b= eing that it makes it difficult to multiplex other protocols over the same = connection. QUIC version numbers may also be chosen very carefully to avoid= conflicts with other protocols where there might be conflicts beyond the f= irst byte when the high bit is set.

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There is an extended ICMP unreachable that includes more, but I doubt that's deployed widely enough to rely on. @igorlord, how do you believe that this would be helpful?

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Commit: 11a4ca918284243c62f6db72af4048a47aa7be18 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/11a4ca918284243c62f6db72af4048a47aa7be18 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2017-12-01 (Fri, 01 Dec 2017) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #976 from martinduke/patch-5 Fix errors in handshake diagram Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/c23f9d89946d...11a4ca918284 ----==_mimepart_5a20994a9652_18453fdc908abc3413085c-- From nobody Thu Nov 30 15:50:46 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D3D11286CA for ; Thu, 30 Nov 2017 15:50:38 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.381 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.381 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4UjB6wygNyWm for ; Thu, 30 Nov 2017 15:50:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from github-smtp2b-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (github-smtp2-ext2.iad.github.net [192.30.252.193]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 244CD12704B for ; Thu, 30 Nov 2017 15:50:37 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2017 15:50:36 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1512085836; bh=QCexMoIxqVxqrZZ5qVPtYXig4ArTN5c1XQewPnYTdaI=; h=From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=oyfKcw/QyTRhFAnZYXCu+vSEIzL9FaUbypZ0J8jFGBn6XIGRSVI2BjW7xDdWu5yO2 4VcAJlRFmdWJ954uieMimJhxh536gfOEKjcUvRIupS5x36qOk9o7ASeSjuhoWw2HyN Z4L3jM5eOucfCxq2yvac+rxHf5sPS0LJmodb8f3Y= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Fix errors in handshake diagram (#976) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5a20994c58839_31af3fb829ccaf302374a1"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2017 23:50:38 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5a20994c58839_31af3fb829ccaf302374a1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Merged #976. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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Merged #976.

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----==_mimepart_5a20994c58839_31af3fb829ccaf302374a1-- From nobody Thu Nov 30 15:53:55 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 365EA126E01 for ; Thu, 30 Nov 2017 15:53:54 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id eKrrraN6pJOz for ; Thu, 30 Nov 2017 15:53:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from github-smtp2b-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (github-smtp2-ext3.iad.github.net [192.30.252.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2702E120046 for ; Thu, 30 Nov 2017 15:53:52 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2017 15:53:51 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1512086031; bh=BRlKgtOBReNadXQWkH7upNdOcPkSZd061gzUrBe/kvE=; h=From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=Nhhe8DYlF7zqboYgXacjAP8JDyUqwW6J49PzpTTck5LNBn16GRMYUgLBXdbEEc1WZ 4qEfTc9d4OsboOUsbNmrFaNNQOJLC7DuAl3XqhzLy5P1P1tm0aLr/5i2icAOvHIO7f IdV/V4Y8B+1Q1N+tKr58TA+oX45mo7IcMMvE+VFc= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] More detailed stream states (#894) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5a209a0f6ff1f_14b13ff9e8ce4f38860bb"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2017 23:53:54 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5a209a0f6ff1f_14b13ff9e8ce4f38860bb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit martinthomson commented on this pull request. (Ugh, power cut yesterday dropped my comments...) > -If the application resets a stream that is already in the "closed" state, a -RST_STREAM frame MAY still be sent in order to cancel retransmissions of -previously-sent STREAM frames. +~~~ + o + | Recv STREAM / STREAM_BLOCKED / RST_STREAM I know. But I don't like having two entry points to the state machine, that's worse and the prose is clear enough. Note also here that STREAM+FIN has the exact same effect. > -If the application resets a stream that is already in the "closed" state, a -RST_STREAM frame MAY still be sent in order to cancel retransmissions of -previously-sent STREAM frames. +~~~ + o + | Recv STREAM / STREAM_BLOCKED / RST_STREAM + | Open Paired Stream (bidirectional) + | Recv MAX_STREAM_DATA + v I considered that, and even drew it up, but it makes the states harder, not easier to describe. The Open state is convenient as a way to discuss some of the state transitions when sending, but I couldn't find an analogous benefit on the receive side and only complications to the state machine. The only advantage would be in describing the receive side of a bidirectional stream, and that didn't really need an extra state. Also, it would make the two RST_STREAM frames problem a three RST_STREAM frames problem. > + | Read | | Read | + +-------+ +-------+ +~~~ +{: #fig-stream-recv-states title="States for Receive Streams"} + +The receiving part of a stream initiated by a peer (types 1 and 3 for a client, +or 0 and 2 for a server) are created when the first STREAM, STREAM_BLOCKED, or +RST_STREAM is received for that stream. The initial state for a receive stream +is "Recv". Receiving a RST_STREAM frame causes the receive stream to +immediately transition to the "Reset Recvd". + +The receive stream enters the "Recv" state when the sending part of a +bidirectional stream initiated by the endpoint (type 0 for a client, type 1 for +a server) enters the "Open" state. + +A bidirectional stream also opens when a MAX_STREAM_DATA frame is received. I just added it to the list and added a parenthetical, which is ugly, but breaks the loop of dependencies. > @@ -2675,201 +2676,291 @@ created, it MUST close the connection with error code STREAM_STATE_ERROR. Stream ID 0 (0x0) is reserved for the cryptographic handshake. Stream 0 MUST NOT be used for application data, and is the first client-initiated stream. -A QUIC endpoint MUST NOT reuse a Stream ID. Streams MUST be created -in sequential order. Open streams can be used in any order. Streams -that are used out of order result in lower-numbered streams in the -same direction being counted as open. +A QUIC endpoint MUST NOT reuse a Stream ID. Open streams can be used in any I forgot that I did that. Since it's unenforceable, can't we just concede that open-in-order isn't strictly an interoperability requirement? I could restore text with weasel words, but I've been convinced that strictly legislating here isn't constructive. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/894#pullrequestreview-79730796 ----==_mimepart_5a209a0f6ff1f_14b13ff9e8ce4f38860bb Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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(Ugh, power cut yesterday dropped my comments...)

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
-If the application resets a stream that is already in the "closed" state, a
-RST_STREAM frame MAY still be sent in order to cancel retransmissions of
-previously-sent STREAM frames.
+~~~
+       o
+       | Recv STREAM / STREAM_BLOCKED / RST_STREAM

I know. But I don't like having two entry points to the state machine, that's worse and the prose is clear enough. Note also here that STREAM+FIN has the exact same effect.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
-If the application resets a stream that is already in the "closed" state, a
-RST_STREAM frame MAY still be sent in order to cancel retransmissions of
-previously-sent STREAM frames.
+~~~
+       o
+       | Recv STREAM / STREAM_BLOCKED / RST_STREAM
+       | Open Paired Stream (bidirectional)
+       | Recv MAX_STREAM_DATA
+       v

I considered that, and even drew it up, but it makes the states harder, not easier to describe. The Open state is convenient as a way to discuss some of the state transitions when sending, but I couldn't find an analogous benefit on the receive side and only complications to the state machine. The only advantage would be in describing the receive side of a bidirectional stream, and that didn't really need an extra state.

Also, it would make the two RST_STREAM frames problem a three RST_STREAM frames problem.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +   | Read  |                   | Read  |
+   +-------+                   +-------+
+~~~
+{: #fig-stream-recv-states title="States for Receive Streams"}
+
+The receiving part of a stream initiated by a peer (types 1 and 3 for a client,
+or 0 and 2 for a server) are created when the first STREAM, STREAM_BLOCKED, or
+RST_STREAM is received for that stream.  The initial state for a receive stream
+is "Recv".  Receiving a RST_STREAM frame causes the receive stream to
+immediately transition to the "Reset Recvd".
+
+The receive stream enters the "Recv" state when the sending part of a
+bidirectional stream initiated by the endpoint (type 0 for a client, type 1 for
+a server) enters the "Open" state.
+
+A bidirectional stream also opens when a MAX_STREAM_DATA frame is received.

I just added it to the list and added a parenthetical, which is ugly, but breaks the loop of dependencies.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2675,201 +2676,291 @@ created, it MUST close the connection with error code STREAM_STATE_ERROR.
 Stream ID 0 (0x0) is reserved for the cryptographic handshake.  Stream 0 MUST
 NOT be used for application data, and is the first client-initiated stream.
 
-A QUIC endpoint MUST NOT reuse a Stream ID.  Streams MUST be created
-in sequential order.  Open streams can be used in any order.  Streams
-that are used out of order result in lower-numbered streams in the
-same direction being counted as open.
+A QUIC endpoint MUST NOT reuse a Stream ID.  Open streams can be used in any

I forgot that I did that. Since it's unenforceable, can't we just concede that open-in-order isn't strictly an interoperability requirement? I could restore text with weasel words, but I've been convinced that strictly legislating here isn't constructive.

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I made a few changes in the process. The state where all data is available didn't turn out to be any different to the state preceding it, so I removed it. I also found it valuable to recognize that streams might be created for sending before any frames are sent (I considered doing the same for receive streams, but it complicated the transitions more than I liked, I could be convinced to add this still, it just seems less valuable). I added a section on composite states, showing how this mess all maps to stuff you already know (h2). This is still work-in-progress. I have changed the main chunk of text on states, but I haven't changed any of the rest of the document, which still talks about "idle" and all that. I'll do that next if people are generally happy with the direction this is headed. Closes #634. Commit: 7b51511f34545ac9cc49f4e85c109ad54fa9e20f https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/7b51511f34545ac9cc49f4e85c109ad54fa9e20f Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2017-12-01 (Fri, 01 Dec 2017) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Summarize what can be sent and when Commit: a1c1a2de2edbcd82756757e019f23108ac9c9d9d https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/a1c1a2de2edbcd82756757e019f23108ac9c9d9d Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2017-12-01 (Fri, 01 Dec 2017) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- The stream mapping is just a possibility Commit: b52e159725b92ee926d278c6f5364352df20399d https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/b52e159725b92ee926d278c6f5364352df20399d Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2017-12-01 (Fri, 01 Dec 2017) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Don't overdo it Commit: cf6b3eebf3445b71e4bf2ebc2f6d42d0389e1691 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/cf6b3eebf3445b71e4bf2ebc2f6d42d0389e1691 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2017-12-01 (Fri, 01 Dec 2017) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-http.md M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Complete the changes Commit: 613e4e4aa64b39f1c688cdd04f6b5d2c73921aec https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/613e4e4aa64b39f1c688cdd04f6b5d2c73921aec Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2017-12-01 (Fri, 01 Dec 2017) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Forgot about MAX_STREAM_DATA Commit: ff9b1e2b6f9febd23252f24f556d031c1e7433f1 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/ff9b1e2b6f9febd23252f24f556d031c1e7433f1 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2017-12-01 (Fri, 01 Dec 2017) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Giant cluster of review feedback updates Commit: 252d039c8f1b9746c2135256b7c3d9777ccf04fe https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/252d039c8f1b9746c2135256b7c3d9777ccf04fe Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2017-12-01 (Fri, 01 Dec 2017) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Minor reflow Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/b4a6bfb46a0f...252d039c8f1b ----==_mimepart_5a209b40a79fd_6c4a3fc08c353c34830f7-- From nobody Thu Nov 30 16:48:59 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58A7D124D68 for ; 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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -543,6 +544,17 @@ the server supports, as shown below.
 ~~~
 {: #version-negotiation-format title="Version Negotiation Packet"}
 
+The value in the Unused field is selected randomly by the server. The Connection

This looks like a gratuitous change. What exactly is the benefit of not having a version renegotiation packet?

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -543,6 +544,17 @@ the server supports, as shown below.
 ~~~
 {: #version-negotiation-format title="Version Negotiation Packet"}
 
+The value in the Unused field is selected randomly by the server. The Connection

@huitema: can we discuss on #963 ?

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I would rather use a constant value, and actually keep the version negot= iation type that we have already defined. Yes, this will constrain further = versions to not redefine that type. But then, so what?

I am also very lukewarm about the idea of making packet types version de= pendent, e.g. having sometimes the client initial be 17 and some times 29. = That will require implementations to insert some level of indirection betwe= en the abstract types used internally and the type in the wire format. This= looks like gratuitous complexity.

I like the idea of removing the dependency on the sequence number. That'= s a clear benefit, since implementations cannot guarantee that they can par= se sequence numbers from unsupported versions.

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I looks like the only point of contention is the value we put in the t= ype field. Hopefully the draft I'm about to publish will help clarify. = That draft assumes that this PR is merged. Switching based on the type b= yte is possible, and it won't appreciably change the logic.

There is no case where you don't check version before handling a packe= t with a long header. So there aren't any more or fewer checks, just tha= t they are in a different place.

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@janai= yengar and @martinthomson, ICMPv6 includes a lot more bytes, so it can be = used; some routers include more bytes for ipv4, so that can be used as well= . It is true that most often you will not see the connection ID in ICMP (ip= v4), but I want to make use of that connection ID in cases when it is usefu= l. Hence, I want to be absolutely sure that clients are ready for the serve= r ignoring omit_connection_id.

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@igorlord, would you mind creating a PR that clarifies this point?

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Sure, @martinthomson. Would you expect the PR to include just the normative language, or the justification for it as well?

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The text should say that if the parameter is present, the recipient MAY omit the connection ID from packets it sends with the short header. I don't think we need anything else.

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Also, I used the word "period" in a few places where "state" was more appropriate. And, I realized that if a shutdown has been negotiated, an endpoint might as well send APPLICATION_CLOSE with whatever error is appropriate there rather than to use CONNECTION_CLOSE, so it's back to closing frame rather than CONNECTION_CLOSE only for the last gasp packet. 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@m= artinthomson : Agreed, but if you remove that question, i.e., assume = that a type is assigned to a VN packet, then the only thing left in this = PR is the removal of packet number from the VN packet. I am hearing pushb= ack from the wg on the question of whether the VN type byte should be ver= sion-dependent, which is important to this particular PR, and we should d= iscuss on #963 first. It's ok for your draft to assume this PR in the meanwhile.

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@huitema= : are you suggesting that we make packet types version-independent? T= hat seems unnecessary rigidity, since a later version of QUIC shouldn't h= ave to deal with legacy types it's not using. For instance, we currently = use different short types for different packet number sizes; it's seems q= uite likely that we'll change that in future versions.

I think it's a good idea to be clear about what won't change and what = will across versions. Our general premise has been so far to assume packe= t type will change across versions, which is why VN packets stick out, an= d using the version field instead of type for them makes all typ= es version independent. There's value in this that we can unequivocally t= hat packet type must not be interpreted by stateless middleboxes, otherwi= se we have to equivocate.

Agreed on removing packet number from VN packets.

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@= marten-seemann : I agree that it's simpler with simply a type byte, b= ut honestly I don't think it's much more complex with a version field in = the picture as well. It's a bit of getting used to, but the value is in t= he clarity about the type field being entirely version-dependent, for bot= h long and short header packets (which it almost was, but this makes it e= ntirely so.)

Importantly, making the type field version dependent and stating it as= such hopefully forces middleboxes to actually pay attention to the versi= on field, and middlebox implementers to read the spec. This is a big part= of greasing -- to ensure that implementers have to go read the spec to f= igure out how to parse packets instead of looking for patterns on the wir= e -- and having types be different across versions helps, IMO.

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Closes #967

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Commit Summary

  • remove unnecessary pacing text

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Was the text about the pacing rate just unnecessary or was it wrong? I recently implemented the pacing rate previously described here in quic-go, and the results so far look promising.

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Not wrong -- it is what GQUIC does -- but those constants don't add much= value, IMO. We do 2x during slow start because that's what the Linux fq qd= isc does. I'm wary of specifying in an RFC something that's done by one imp= lementation of pacing. You could choose to use 1.25x for the entire thing a= nd I suspect you'll still be quite fine.

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