From prvs=4016baad5=schmidt@informatik.haw-hamburg.de Fri Mar 2 08:24:21 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sam@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: sam@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6105821F8743 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2012 08:24:21 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.249 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.249 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NhkEs6EiJ5mB for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2012 08:24:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx6.haw-public.haw-hamburg.de (mx6.haw-public.haw-hamburg.de [141.22.6.3]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4679C21F873E for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2012 08:24:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailgate.informatik.haw-hamburg.de ([141.22.30.74]) by mail6.is.haw-hamburg.de with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 02 Mar 2012 17:24:18 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailgate.informatik.haw-hamburg.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1D0E104EB79; Fri, 2 Mar 2012 17:24:18 +0100 (CET) Received: from mailgate.informatik.haw-hamburg.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mailgate.informatik.haw-hamburg.de [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 25110-08; Fri, 2 Mar 2012 17:24:18 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.178.36] (g231110254.adsl.alicedsl.de [92.231.110.254]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mailgate.informatik.haw-hamburg.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 416A1104EB72; Fri, 2 Mar 2012 17:24:18 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4F50F43D.3080709@informatik.haw-hamburg.de> Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2012 17:24:29 +0100 From: "Thomas C. Schmidt" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sam Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at informatik.haw-hamburg.de Subject: [SAM] Paris Meeting - SAM slot scheduled X-BeenThere: sam@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "For use by members of the Scalable Adaptive Multicast \(SAM\) RG" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2012 16:24:21 -0000 Folks, SAMRG agenda request has been scheduled: Thursday, Afternoon Session I 1300-1500 Room Name: 212/213 As usual, please send your agenda proposals and slot request to the chairs. John & Thomas -- Prof. Dr. Thomas C. Schmidt ° Hamburg University of Applied Sciences Berliner Tor 7 ° ° Dept. Informatik, Internet Technologies Group 20099 Hamburg, Germany ° ° http://www.haw-hamburg.de/inet Fon: +49-40-42875-8452 ° ° http://www.informatik.haw-hamburg.de/~schmidt Fax: +49-40-42875-8409 ° From lei.liu16@gmail.com Sat Mar 10 07:39:09 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sam@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: sam@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E16221F8603 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2012 07:39:09 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.521 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.521 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.077, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JGI8nAt6MKtU for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2012 07:39:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4831921F858B for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2012 07:39:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by iahk25 with SMTP id k25so5108962iah.13 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2012 07:39:07 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type:x-mailer :thread-index:content-language; bh=Bk6bsodvNP7NfeV6fWOTDAG51qCsns5Zp6YlLb3rkGA=; b=AHW/zYs03oI49EYmpr0LbNL/0bu0SxhMvuuaW8c7Qi4rpnX+RDvbmZZRlw3j7iKFOm LUj6aX6TJIH1vI0xATpseGHAsaSpWRT0LN+do6/vmPY57s5+hH7OKkdo06koQ4TVGWPx 8it3FdGCAU7GXPZgSjdgeZekxKe7g9h79QxA7hdTtaTSOECMnkpQ4wnJCHuBOhZnX4fr lU0R3tMoG0idk3LE9An7BBDMNP9n+3KFrAjitPwm00PgM2VQfSNSGGC1DRfGXm6tdYWD Xg/acbAZ2QtiilwhEcIGJ7XZ7KRvrVxqEqgsxEZuiDMu20TbxXCZEege0Hx38bOcOczV x+rA== Received: by 10.50.203.100 with SMTP id kp4mr9975575igc.6.1331393947811; Sat, 10 Mar 2012 07:39:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from ChrisTHINK ([222.175.103.10]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c2sm5743317igj.1.2012.03.10.07.39.04 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 10 Mar 2012 07:39:07 -0800 (PST) From: "Chris-Lei.Liu" To: Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 23:37:53 +0800 Message-ID: <007301ccfed3$f1034660$d309d320$@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0074_01CCFF16.FF296C90" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: Acz+07/z2kcNhjIWQz2VZRrgbhck/w== Content-Language: zh-cn Subject: [SAM] CFP::The International Symposium on Frontier of Future Communication Networks, Liverpool, UK, deadline=30 March 2012 X-BeenThere: sam@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "For use by members of the Scalable Adaptive Multicast \(SAM\) RG" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 15:39:09 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0074_01CCFF16.FF296C90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit [Please accept our sincere apologies if you receive multiple copies of this email] ************************ FFCN-2012 CFP *********************** The International Symposium on Frontier of Future Communication Networks (FFCN-2012) to be held in conjunction with The 14th IEEE International Conference on High Performance computing and communications (HPCC-2012), in Liverpool, UK. http://www.lrm.sdu.edu.cn/ffcn2012.html Introduction ================ The demand of next generation networks for communications has focused on the trend in technology and the efficiency. Driven by the fancy technologies and the applications, the provisioning of large-scaled and complicated communication networks is becoming an important research issue. Especially over the last few years, there has been an explosion of wireless subscribers and booming growth in the Internet both in terms of users and usage. The trend has led to a new direction, and meanwhile brought many grand challenges to both industrial and academic communication communities. To overcome these challenges, it is necessary to seek new levels of research work on architecture, green networking, performance, and intelligence of future communication networks. All papers will be peer-reviewed and the comments will be provided to the authors. All accepted papers will be included in the proceedings of the main conference IUCC 2012, published by IEEE Computer Society Press (Indexed by EI). At least one author of any accepted paper is requested to register at the main conference. Once accepted, the paper will be included into the IEEE conference proceedings published by IEEE Computer Society Press (indexed by EI). The purpose the 2012 International Symposium on Frontier of Future Communication Networks is to bring together scientists, researchers, professionals, and practitioners from both industry and academia to share the opinions, seek the solutions, and report state-of-art research results. Scope and Topics: ================= -Ad Hoc Networks and Sensor Networks -Social Networks: Architecture, Theories and Technologies -Perspective of Cognitive Networks and Development -Applications and Technologies of Mobile Networks -Systems, Architecture and Standardizations of Internet of Things -Performance, Modelling, Analysis and Optimization of Computer Networking -Design and Development of IPv6 -Challenges and Issues of Bio-Networks -Applications, Theories and Utilizations of Biomimicry Networks Important Dates ================== Paper submission deadline: March 30, 2012 Author notification: April 30, 2012 Final manuscript due: May 08, 2012 Registration due: May 08, 2012 Conference date: June 25-27, 2012 Submission Instructions ======================= Authors are invited to submit manuscripts reporting original unpublished research and recent developments in the topics related to the workshop. The length of the papers should not exceed 6 pages + 2 pages for overlength charges (IEEE Computer Society Proceedings Manuscripts style: two columns, single-spaced), including figures and references, using 10pt fonts, and number each page. Papers should be submitted electronically in PDF format by sending it as an e-mail attachment to Lei Liu (lei.liu16@gmail.com). ------=_NextPart_000_0074_01CCFF16.FF296C90 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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************************ FFCN-2012 CFP = ***********************

The International Symposium on Frontier of Future = Communication Networks (FFCN-2012) to be held in conjunction with The = 14th IEEE International Conference on High Performance computing and = communications (HPCC-2012), in Liverpool, UK.

 

http://www.lrm.sdu.edu.cn/ffcn2012.html

 

Introduction

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The = demand of next generation networks for communications has focused on the = trend in technology and the efficiency. Driven by the fancy technologies = and the applications, the provisioning of large-scaled and complicated = communication networks is becoming an important research issue. = Especially over the last few years, there has been an explosion of = wireless subscribers and booming growth in the Internet both in terms of = users and usage.  The trend has led to a new direction, and = meanwhile brought many grand challenges to both industrial and academic = communication communities. To overcome these challenges, it is necessary = to seek new levels of research work on architecture, green networking, = performance, and intelligence of future communication networks. All = papers will be peer-reviewed and the comments will be provided to the = authors. All accepted papers will be included in the proceedings of the = main conference IUCC 2012, published by IEEE Computer Society Press = (Indexed by EI). At least one author of any accepted paper is = requested to register at the main conference. Once accepted, the paper = will be included into the IEEE conference proceedings published by IEEE = Computer Society Press (indexed by EI).

 

 

The = purpose the 2012 International Symposium on Frontier of Future = Communication Networks is to bring together scientists, researchers, = professionals, and practitioners from both industry and academia to = share the opinions, seek the solutions, and report state-of-art research = results.

 

Scope and Topics:

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-Ad Hoc Networks and Sensor Networks

-Social Networks: Architecture, Theories and = Technologies

-Perspective of Cognitive Networks and = Development

-Applications and Technologies of Mobile = Networks

-Systems, Architecture and Standardizations of Internet = of Things

-Performance, Modelling, Analysis and Optimization of = Computer Networking 

-Design and Development of IPv6

-Challenges and Issues of Bio-Networks

-Applications, Theories and Utilizations of Biomimicry = Networks

 

Important Dates

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Paper submission = deadline:        March 30, = 2012

Author = notification:          =             &= nbsp; April 30, 2012

Final manuscript = due:           &nb= sp;         May 08, = 2012

Registration = due:           &nb= sp;           &nbs= p;     May 08, 2012

Conference = date:           &n= bsp;           &nb= sp;    June 25-27, 2012

 

Submission Instructions

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Authors = are invited to submit manuscripts reporting original unpublished = research and recent developments in the topics related to the workshop. = The length of the papers should not exceed 6 pages + 2 pages for = overlength charges (IEEE Computer Society Proceedings Manuscripts style: = two columns, single-spaced), including figures and references, using = 10pt fonts, and number each page. Papers should be submitted = electronically in PDF format by sending it as an e-mail attachment to = Lei Liu (lei.liu16@gmail.com).

 

 

------=_NextPart_000_0074_01CCFF16.FF296C90-- From lei.liu16@gmail.com Sat Mar 10 07:39:13 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sam@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: sam@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 213B321F8615 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2012 07:39:13 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.523 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.523 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.075, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id X1Xy-vHcym42 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2012 07:39:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-iy0-f172.google.com (mail-iy0-f172.google.com [209.85.210.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35E2721F8613 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2012 07:39:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by iazz13 with SMTP id z13so4311686iaz.31 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2012 07:39:11 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type:x-mailer :thread-index:content-language; bh=S/edwS3qbFIS/nE7SyTkttj3uO0hY5elS+q0dLS8HpY=; b=XcvsJKqARHHct56yoJ773l2hzRppzmdhUCyXOYKSImqJdaWrJnOqDFOAuv0/pLAuNb l8buA0R3DGyucFRzQmsyYJFPuvemm5lNZHVYnezmkc5LXSF/OWp2x4juS7rZ8Bmyv+nb HezquQQBGe5bsZ6UBteOFoHIstEbPoLIvTvRaa4pVPIiN9Ap6ZdPEAY13ANyv7I5YtZu FxiS1xxZ+TyuSlIWKMFiD/6qF2UIITkRzNxsyko9EEvj+WaM0sUe9Gc4Ra5Ec+rAu7ZG xN0ZWEiz8Fij70Jjt66t8WxuYkT68cmQL4dDfWVm7LFhplJj56RL/KcsyqFeBYsPOedd tIjw== Received: by 10.50.180.168 with SMTP id dp8mr542412igc.57.1331393951824; Sat, 10 Mar 2012 07:39:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from ChrisTHINK ([222.175.103.10]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c2sm5743317igj.1.2012.03.10.07.39.08 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 10 Mar 2012 07:39:11 -0800 (PST) From: "Chris-Lei.Liu" To: Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 23:37:53 +0800 Message-ID: <007801ccfed3$f35ec290$da1c47b0$@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0079_01CCFF17.018536E0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: Acz+07/n6nIne/z1QPGyyNVa5kQn/w== Content-Language: zh-cn Subject: [SAM] CFP::The International Symposium on Frontier of Future Communication Networks, Liverpool, UK, deadline=30 March 2012 X-BeenThere: sam@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "For use by members of the Scalable Adaptive Multicast \(SAM\) RG" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 15:39:13 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0079_01CCFF17.018536E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit [Please accept our sincere apologies if you receive multiple copies of this email] ************************ FFCN-2012 CFP *********************** The International Symposium on Frontier of Future Communication Networks (FFCN-2012) to be held in conjunction with The 14th IEEE International Conference on High Performance computing and communications (HPCC-2012), in Liverpool, UK. http://www.lrm.sdu.edu.cn/ffcn2012.html Introduction ================ The demand of next generation networks for communications has focused on the trend in technology and the efficiency. Driven by the fancy technologies and the applications, the provisioning of large-scaled and complicated communication networks is becoming an important research issue. Especially over the last few years, there has been an explosion of wireless subscribers and booming growth in the Internet both in terms of users and usage. The trend has led to a new direction, and meanwhile brought many grand challenges to both industrial and academic communication communities. To overcome these challenges, it is necessary to seek new levels of research work on architecture, green networking, performance, and intelligence of future communication networks. All papers will be peer-reviewed and the comments will be provided to the authors. All accepted papers will be included in the proceedings of the main conference IUCC 2012, published by IEEE Computer Society Press (Indexed by EI). At least one author of any accepted paper is requested to register at the main conference. Once accepted, the paper will be included into the IEEE conference proceedings published by IEEE Computer Society Press (indexed by EI). The purpose the 2012 International Symposium on Frontier of Future Communication Networks is to bring together scientists, researchers, professionals, and practitioners from both industry and academia to share the opinions, seek the solutions, and report state-of-art research results. Scope and Topics: ================= -Ad Hoc Networks and Sensor Networks -Social Networks: Architecture, Theories and Technologies -Perspective of Cognitive Networks and Development -Applications and Technologies of Mobile Networks -Systems, Architecture and Standardizations of Internet of Things -Performance, Modelling, Analysis and Optimization of Computer Networking -Design and Development of IPv6 -Challenges and Issues of Bio-Networks -Applications, Theories and Utilizations of Biomimicry Networks Important Dates ================== Paper submission deadline: March 30, 2012 Author notification: April 30, 2012 Final manuscript due: May 08, 2012 Registration due: May 08, 2012 Conference date: June 25-27, 2012 Submission Instructions ======================= Authors are invited to submit manuscripts reporting original unpublished research and recent developments in the topics related to the workshop. The length of the papers should not exceed 6 pages + 2 pages for overlength charges (IEEE Computer Society Proceedings Manuscripts style: two columns, single-spaced), including figures and references, using 10pt fonts, and number each page. Papers should be submitted electronically in PDF format by sending it as an e-mail attachment to Lei Liu (lei.liu16@gmail.com). ------=_NextPart_000_0079_01CCFF17.018536E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

[Please accept our sincere apologies if you receive = multiple copies of this email]

 

************************ FFCN-2012 CFP = ***********************

The International Symposium on Frontier of Future = Communication Networks (FFCN-2012) to be held in conjunction with The = 14th IEEE International Conference on High Performance computing and = communications (HPCC-2012), in Liverpool, UK.

 

http://www.lrm.sdu.edu.cn/ffcn2012.html

 

Introduction

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<= p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal'> 

The = demand of next generation networks for communications has focused on the = trend in technology and the efficiency. Driven by the fancy technologies = and the applications, the provisioning of large-scaled and complicated = communication networks is becoming an important research issue. = Especially over the last few years, there has been an explosion of = wireless subscribers and booming growth in the Internet both in terms of = users and usage.  The trend has led to a new direction, and = meanwhile brought many grand challenges to both industrial and academic = communication communities. To overcome these challenges, it is necessary = to seek new levels of research work on architecture, green networking, = performance, and intelligence of future communication networks. All = papers will be peer-reviewed and the comments will be provided to the = authors. All accepted papers will be included in the proceedings of the = main conference IUCC 2012, published by IEEE Computer Society Press = (Indexed by EI). At least one author of any accepted paper is = requested to register at the main conference. Once accepted, the paper = will be included into the IEEE conference proceedings published by IEEE = Computer Society Press (indexed by EI).

 

 

The = purpose the 2012 International Symposium on Frontier of Future = Communication Networks is to bring together scientists, researchers, = professionals, and practitioners from both industry and academia to = share the opinions, seek the solutions, and report state-of-art research = results.

 

Scope and Topics:

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

 

-Ad Hoc Networks and Sensor Networks

-Social Networks: Architecture, Theories and = Technologies

-Perspective of Cognitive Networks and = Development

-Applications and Technologies of Mobile = Networks

-Systems, Architecture and Standardizations of Internet = of Things

-Performance, Modelling, Analysis and Optimization of = Computer Networking 

-Design and Development of IPv6

-Challenges and Issues of Bio-Networks

-Applications, Theories and Utilizations of Biomimicry = Networks

 

Important Dates

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

 

Paper submission = deadline:        March 30, = 2012

Author = notification:          =             &= nbsp; April 30, 2012

Final manuscript = due:           &nb= sp;         May 08, = 2012

Registration = due:           &nb= sp;           &nbs= p;     May 08, 2012

Conference = date:           &n= bsp;           &nb= sp;    June 25-27, 2012

 

Submission Instructions

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Authors = are invited to submit manuscripts reporting original unpublished = research and recent developments in the topics related to the workshop. = The length of the papers should not exceed 6 pages + 2 pages for = overlength charges (IEEE Computer Society Proceedings Manuscripts style: = two columns, single-spaced), including figures and references, using = 10pt fonts, and number each page. Papers should be submitted = electronically in PDF format by sending it as an e-mail attachment to = Lei Liu (lei.liu16@gmail.com).

 

 

------=_NextPart_000_0079_01CCFF17.018536E0-- From lei.liu16@gmail.com Mon Mar 12 23:38:00 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sam@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: sam@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A900321F8890 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 23:38:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.539 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.539 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.059, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zaBQXKKjhbt9 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 23:37:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-iy0-f172.google.com (mail-iy0-f172.google.com [209.85.210.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB96221F8861 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 23:37:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by iazz13 with SMTP id z13so409334iaz.31 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 23:37:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type:x-mailer :thread-index:content-language; bh=fMbPi+7g6Um1imMHWURy1U3GUgYk7lHN9uexecgzl5o=; b=E037BSLLny7GNOggkx7BiYkfevVUqEgBZXMgKqDelRd4yuXjxmS66972QoedpkoWdX 0T8agAJ90ALYeJNVsN1l1bTDbJLNST7jhyHQmigqFJ9p2rUMgL1O1cl43gKQrhNpQtJx XBBIAbmYvwvkSFZCIOKWXFdDODhMQaZV7WF7zB9rbSrV87OzfD6ziF2x3OUBjoHJOAHc oIYiX004FPoq0WR1AtqXp2qqmjrdpHsJidrFZcevoyWe/jVHODheHHo0rMJpJPo/ezcQ jyTvtkGuiFKkoUBNp6fNnXv8gal3PUf22zuxbi9jz6UQjYiyVCQyiWdvjK3XvBVbrgjJ FstQ== Received: by 10.50.203.100 with SMTP id kp4mr2775430igc.6.1331620678533; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 23:37:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ChrisTHINK ([222.175.103.3]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id vr4sm1747372igb.1.2012.03.12.23.37.55 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 12 Mar 2012 23:37:57 -0700 (PDT) From: "Chris-Lei.Liu" To: Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 14:37:03 +0800 Message-ID: <005b01cd00e3$d4f75e90$7ee61bb0$@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_005C_01CD0126.E31D5DB0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: Ac0A468ccFML+oN1Q7m9bQfoPDVpXw== Content-Language: zh-cn Subject: [SAM] Submission deadline is approaching, IntelNet2012, Liverpool, UK X-BeenThere: sam@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "For use by members of the Scalable Adaptive Multicast \(SAM\) RG" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 06:38:00 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_005C_01CD0126.E31D5DB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit [Please accept our apologies if you receive multiple copies of this email] ************************ IntelNet-2012 CFP *********************** The Third International Workshop on Intelligent Communication and Social Networks (IntelNet-2012) in conjunction with The 11th IEEE International Conference on Ubiquitous Computing and Communications (IUCC-2012) in Liverpool, UK http://www.lrm.sdu.edu.cn/intelnet2012/1.htm Introduction ==================== Modern communication networks have been becoming more and more large-scaled and complicated due to rapid development and interconnection among heterogeneous communication networks. Therefore, the management and maintenance of modern communication networks have posed many grand challenges to both industrial and academic communication communities. Especially in very recent years, interpersonal communication has been re-emerging as an important research issue, as people have turned to social networking as a means of communication. Mass media has gradually replaced interpersonal communications a socializing force. Therefore, it is very necessary to find new levels of autonomy and intelligence in designing, deploying, managing, and maintaining communication networks. Meanwhile, analysis of communities, personalization for social activities, and social network modeling, construction of scalable, customizable social network infrastructure have brought researchers new challenges. The purpose of the 2012 International Workshop on Intelligent Communication and Social Networks (IntelNet 2012) is to bring together scientists, researchers, professionals, and practitioners from both industry and academia to exchange ideas, discuss solutions, share experiences, and report state-of-the-art research results on various aspects of intelligence communication and social networks. Scope and Topics: ==================== -Applications of Social Networks -Ad Hoc Networks and Sensor Networks -Advanced Technologies for Enabling Intelligent Communications -Autonomy-Oriented Communication Networks -Biological, Social, and Economic Models for Communication Networks -Bio-Inspired Network Protocols and Services -Community Detection in Social Networks -Cognitive Networks -Complex Dynamics of Communication Networks -Information Acquisition and Establishment of Social Relations -Intrusion Detection in Social Network Evolution -Mobile Social Networks -Network-Aware Social Networks -Scalability and Complexity of Intelligent Communication Networks -Self-Organizing, Self-Adaptive and Self-Tuning Communication Networks -Smart Home Networks -Stability and Dependability of Intelligent Communication Networks -Socially-Aware Communication Networks -Social Networks: Architecture, Theories and Technologies Important Dates ===================== Paper submission deadline: March 30, 2012 Author notification: April 30, 2012 Final manuscript due: May 08, 2012 Registration due: May 08, 2012 Conference date: June 25-27, 2012 Submission Instructions ==================== Authors are invited to submit manuscripts reporting original unpublished research and recent developments in the topics related to the workshop. The length of the papers should not exceed 6 pages + 2 pages for overlength charges (IEEE Computer Society Proceedings Manuscripts style: two columns, single-spaced), including figures and references, using 10pt fonts, and number each page. Papers should be submitted electronically in PDF format by sending it as an e-mail attachment to Lei Liu (lei.liu16@gmail.com). All papers will be peer-reviewed and the comments will be provided to the authors. All accepted papers will be included in the proceedings of the main conference IUCC 2012, published by IEEE Computer Society Press (Indexed by EI). At least one author of any accepted paper is requested to register at the main conference. ------=_NextPart_000_005C_01CD0126.E31D5DB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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The Third International = Workshop on Intelligent Communication and Social Networks = (IntelNet-2012) in conjunction with The 11th IEEE = International Conference on Ubiquitous Computing and Communications = (IUCC-2012) in Liverpool, UK

http://www.lrm.sdu.edu.cn/intelnet2012/1.htm

<= p class=3DMsoNormal>Introduction

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Modern = communication networks have been becoming more and more large-scaled and = complicated due to rapid development and interconnection among = heterogeneous communication networks. Therefore, the management and maintenance of = modern communication networks have posed many grand challenges to both = industrial and academic communication communities. Especially in very = recent years, interpersonal communication has been re-emerging as = an important research issue, as people have turned to social networking = as a means of communication. Mass media has gradually replaced = interpersonal communications a socializing force. Therefore, it is very necessary to find new levels of autonomy and = intelligence in designing, deploying, managing, and = maintaining communication networks. Meanwhile, analysis of = communities, personalization for social activities, and social network = modeling, construction of scalable, customizable social network = infrastructure have brought researchers new challenges. =

The purpose of = the 2012 International Workshop on Intelligent Communication and Social = Networks (IntelNet 2012) is to bring together scientists, researchers, = professionals, and practitioners from both industry and academia to = exchange ideas, discuss solutions, share experiences, and report = state-of-the-art research results on various aspects of intelligence = communication and social networks.

Scope and = Topics:

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-Applications of Social Networks

-Ad Hoc Networks and Sensor Networks

-Advanced Technologies for Enabling Intelligent = Communications

-Autonomy-Oriented = Communication Networks

-Biological, = Social, and Economic Models for Communication Networks

-Bio-Inspired Network Protocols and = Services

-Community Detection in = Social Networks 

-Cognitive = Networks

-Complex Dynamics of = Communication Networks

-Information = Acquisition and Establishment of Social Relations

-Intrusion Detection in Social Network = Evolution

-Mobile Social = Networks

-Network-Aware Social = Networks

-Scalability and Complexity = of Intelligent Communication Networks

-Self-Organizing, Self-Adaptive and Self-Tuning = Communication Networks

-Smart Home = Networks

-Stability and Dependability = of Intelligent Communication Networks

-Socially-Aware Communication = Networks

-Social Networks: = Architecture, Theories and Technologies

Important Dates

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Paper submission = deadline:        March 30, = 2012

Author = notification:          =             &= nbsp; April 30, 2012

Final manuscript = due:           &nb= sp;         May 08, = 2012

Registration = due:           &nb= sp;           &nbs= p;     May 08, 2012

Conference = date:           &n= bsp;           &nb= sp;    June 25-27, 2012

Submission Instructions

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Authors are = invited to submit manuscripts reporting original unpublished research = and recent developments in the topics related to the workshop. The = length of the papers should not exceed 6 pages + 2 pages for overlength = charges (IEEE Computer Society Proceedings Manuscripts style: two = columns, single-spaced), including figures and references, using 10pt = fonts, and number each page. Papers should be submitted electronically = in PDF format by sending it as an e-mail attachment to Lei Liu = (lei.liu16@gmail.com).

All papers = will be peer-reviewed and the comments will be provided to the authors. = All accepted papers will be included in the proceedings of the main = conference IUCC 2012, published by IEEE Computer Society Press = (Indexed by EI). At least one author of any accepted paper is = requested to register at the main conference. =

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Hi all,

I want to announce our IGM= P/MLD proxy implementation named mcproxy. It is implemented in C++ and=A0co= nforms to RFC 4605. Mcproxy=A0runs on Linux with Kernel version > 2.6.36= .=A0

Its core features are:

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=A0 = =A0 - multiple proxy instances per host: needed for=A0PMIPv6 (RFC6224)
=A0 =A0 - dynamic configuration: add/del downstream interfaces at runtime
=A0 =A0 - high performance and throughput: operates on Linux Kerne= l tables

The latest beta version and further docum= entation of the mcproxy prototype are available at=A0http://m= cproxy.realmv6.org/

Any questions and feedback are very welcome.
=
Regards,
=A0 Sebastian

<= /div> --e89a8ff1c60c8fbe3504bbeaa0d9-- From schmidt@informatik.haw-hamburg.de Sat Mar 24 10:49:33 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sam@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: sam@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43E8621F851B for ; Sat, 24 Mar 2012 10:49:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -104.458 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-104.458 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.791, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0O5d2UgGkQpL for ; Sat, 24 Mar 2012 10:49:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.rz.htw-berlin.de (mail2.rz.htw-berlin.de [141.45.10.102]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8930021F8478 for ; Sat, 24 Mar 2012 10:49:32 -0700 (PDT) Envelope-to: sam@irtf.org Received: from g231107199.adsl.alicedsl.de ([92.231.107.199] helo=[192.168.178.36]) by mail2.rz.htw-berlin.de with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.72 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1SBV5n-000HE5-E1 for sam@irtf.org; Sat, 24 Mar 2012 18:49:31 +0100 Message-ID: <4F6E092E.8040205@informatik.haw-hamburg.de> Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2012 18:49:34 +0100 From: "Thomas C. Schmidt" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120312 Thunderbird/11.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sam Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------010807000901040500050908" X-HTW-SPAMINFO: this message was scanned by eXpurgate (http://www.eleven.de) X-HTW-DELIVERED-TO: sam@irtf.org Subject: [SAM] Tentative Agenda for Paris X-BeenThere: sam@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "For use by members of the Scalable Adaptive Multicast \(SAM\) RG" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2012 17:49:33 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------010807000901040500050908 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi all, please find the tentative agenda attached. (Some configuration problems with new agenda tools keep it offline). We do have some time for last minute contributions - please drop us a note. See you in Paris, John & Thomas -- Prof. Dr. Thomas C. Schmidt ° Hamburg University of Applied Sciences Berliner Tor 7 ° ° Dept. Informatik, Internet Technologies Group 20099 Hamburg, Germany ° ° http://www.haw-hamburg.de/inet Fon: +49-40-42875-8452 ° ° http://www.informatik.haw-hamburg.de/~schmidt Fax: +49-40-42875-8409 ° --------------010807000901040500050908 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; name="sam-agenda-83.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="sam-agenda-83.txt" IRTF SAM RG Meeting, IETF 83 Thursday, March 29, 2011, 1300 - 1000 1. Introduction, Agenda - Chairs (5 min) 2. Group Communication in ICNs - Dirk Kutscher (30 min) 3. A Common API for Transparent Hybrid Multicast - Discussion of last call issues draft-irtf-samrg-common-api - Matthias Waehlisch (15 min) 4. Application Layer Multicast Extensions to RELOAD draft-samrg-sam-baseline-protocol - Mario Kohlberg (20 min) 5. Community Software - Thomas Schmidt (10 min) 6. Document Status & Future Work - Chairs (10 min) --------------010807000901040500050908-- From waehlisch@ieee.org Wed Mar 28 08:57:44 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sam@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: sam@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 898DD21F8913 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 08:57:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -105.45 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-105.45 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, SARE_SUB_RAND_LETTRS4=0.799, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VQseZogijWVd for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 08:57:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.rz.htw-berlin.de (mail2.rz.htw-berlin.de [141.45.10.102]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 874E321F8910 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 08:57:43 -0700 (PDT) Envelope-to: sam@irtf.org Received: from dhcp-922d.meeting.ietf.org ([130.129.10.45] helo=mw-PC.meeting.ietf.org) by mail2.rz.htw-berlin.de with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.72 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1SCvFl-0008eX-Nn; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 17:57:42 +0200 Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 17:57:47 +0200 From: Matthias Waehlisch To: John Buford In-Reply-To: <00eb01ccf582$6ee3acb0$4cab0610$@org> Message-ID: References: <00eb01ccf582$6ee3acb0$4cab0610$@org> X-X-Sender: mw@mail2.rz.fhtw-berlin.de MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-HTW-SPAMINFO: this message was scanned by eXpurgate (http://www.eleven.de) X-HTW-DELIVERED-TO: sam@irtf.org Cc: sam@irtf.org Subject: Re: [SAM] RG last call for draft-irtf-samrg-common-api-04 X-BeenThere: sam@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "For use by members of the Scalable Adaptive Multicast \(SAM\) RG" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 15:57:44 -0000 Hi John, sorry for the late reply! On Mon, 27 Feb 2012, John Buford wrote: > p. 11 "Names can uniquely determine a group in a global communication > context". > - regarding "can", should this be "must" or "should"? > - please add language that specifies whether group names are intended > to be unique (by namespace domain, by all domains, across all active > sessions, across all past present or future sessions, other)? > OK. We will also clarify this in the Terminology section. The Group Name is intended to be unique by all domains. > - is the application responsible for selecting group names and > determining uniqueness? > Group Names can be chosen by the end user. Determining which component ensure uniqueness is out of scope of the document, I would say. > p. 11 "Details of service discovery are out of scope of this document" > - is it intended that this be 1) implementation specific detail, 2) > addressed in another specification, 3) use an existing service > discovery mechanism (if so, such as)? > It's maybe more a question to the research group. A separate document is not necessarily required. > p. 12, 15 > > is "sips" a possible scheme? > "sip", yes. > p. 10 "It group communication services ..." ? > OK, "It _provides_ group communication services ..." > p. 19 (4.4.2) > - is Receive meant to be non-blocking or blocking? > It's implemented as blocking. > - Can the application receive an event when data is available to > receive? > That's implementation specific. The current events focus on local state changes. > - How do you see an application implementing multi-resolution > multicast with this? > It's more the question how to apply the API for multi-resolution multicast? You could use the mapping of names to addresses. Considering a domain with lightweight devices that want data in lower quality, for example, the corresponding gateway could map the name to another address compared to a gateway serving devices with higher capabilities. > - how is mobility across multicast domains supported, that is, if a > roaming client moves from an IPv4 multicast network to an overlay > multicast network, is 1) the transition handled by the middleware, > 2) the transition detectable by the application through the API, > 3) requires the application to detect the transition and make the > appropriate calls to the API to reconfigure the membership and socket? > The application operates on the Group Name. The Group Name does not change with mobility. From this perspective, the transition should be handled by the middleware. > - how is XCAST (or, generally multi-destination multicast routing) > supported? For example, the discussion 3.5 Name to Address Mapping > would seem to be effected if we want to be able to associate a group > name with a list of unicast addresses. > XCAST would be a separate interface (i.e., distribution technology). As far as I understand XCAST, the destination list is unordered. If this is the case, it's easy to extend the naming scheme such that the instantiation of the group represents a set. > - msg assembly/disassembly handled by the middleware for messages too > large to send in one multicast packet? > The middleware layer should guarantee some maximal message size to the application developer. We will clarify this in the next version in a separate MTU section. Cheers matthias -- Matthias Waehlisch . Freie Universitaet Berlin, Inst. fuer Informatik, AG CST . Takustr. 9, D-14195 Berlin, Germany .. mailto:waehlisch@ieee.org .. http://www.inf.fu-berlin.de/~waehl :. Also: http://inet.cpt.haw-hamburg.de .. http://www.link-lab.net From buford@samrg.org Wed Mar 28 16:02:41 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sam@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: sam@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A763221E8150 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 16:02:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -98.3 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-98.3 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=1.396, RDNS_NONE=0.1, SARE_SUB_RAND_LETTRS4=0.799, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hbx0Vx6V15NI for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 16:02:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from oproxy4-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy4.bluehost.com [IPv6:2605:dc00:100:2::a4]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 4484B21E8151 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 16:02:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 17085 invoked by uid 0); 28 Mar 2012 23:02:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO host181.hostmonster.com) (74.220.207.181) by cpoproxy1.bluehost.com with SMTP; 28 Mar 2012 23:02:39 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=samrg.org; s=default; h=To:Date:Subject:From:Cc:Message-Id:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References; bh=cLjR3Ho/H14HUZ0zGIc7Ccb/m/sVnz36c+9bk/mMvfk=; b=hk/6X49wM78C8j/GcxyZ4Wkx/qbDPQ+qysnMFr0bbiz818jU5qZlaStKcRAzG1MHPa337bl91TLuNQ2JNJ/pnTItpeRsFDJxd9lEPaq5uZcKI2j23lSSctyNJGWgX8L6; Received: from mobile-166-147-111-004.mycingular.net ([166.147.111.4] helo=[10.0.134.163]) by host181.hostmonster.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SD1t0-0001ja-RH; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 17:02:39 -0600 References: <00eb01ccf582$6ee3acb0$4cab0610$@org> In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: <2178E111-A6E6-49A5-8622-033A27506409@samrg.org> X-Mailer: iPad Mail (9B176) From: John Buford Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 19:03:13 -0400 To: Matthias Waehlisch X-Identified-User: {2055:host181.hostmonster.com:samrgorg:samrg.org} {sentby:smtp auth 166.147.111.4 authed with buford@samrg.org} Cc: "sam@irtf.org" Subject: Re: [SAM] RG last call for draft-irtf-samrg-common-api-04 X-BeenThere: sam@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "For use by members of the Scalable Adaptive Multicast \(SAM\) RG" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 23:02:41 -0000 Hi Matthias, I believe "sip" and "sips" are two different schemes, the latter using secur= e connection. So it might be good to indicate whether sips can also be used. Personally I would like to see Xcast supported in this spec, but would endor= se the ID for RGLC either way. John Sent from my iPad On Mar 28, 2012, at 11:57 AM, Matthias Waehlisch wrote:= > Hi John, >=20 > sorry for the late reply! >=20 > On Mon, 27 Feb 2012, John Buford wrote: >=20 >> p. 11 "Names can uniquely determine a group in a global communication >> context". >> - regarding "can", should this be "must" or "should"? >> - please add language that specifies whether group names are intended=20 >> to be unique (by namespace domain, by all domains, across all active=20 >> sessions, across all past present or future sessions, other)? >>=20 > OK. We will also clarify this in the Terminology section. The Group=20 > Name is intended to be unique by all domains. >=20 >> - is the application responsible for selecting group names and=20 >> determining uniqueness? >>=20 > Group Names can be chosen by the end user. Determining which=20 > component ensure uniqueness is out of scope of the document, I would=20 > say. >=20 >> p. 11 "Details of service discovery are out of scope of this document"=20= >> - is it intended that this be 1) implementation specific detail, 2)=20 >> addressed in another specification, 3) use an existing service=20 >> discovery mechanism (if so, such as)? >>=20 > It's maybe more a question to the research group. A separate document=20 > is not necessarily required. >=20 >> p. 12, 15 >>=20 >> is "sips" a possible scheme? >>=20 > "sip", yes. >=20 >> p. 10 "It group communication services ..." ? >>=20 > OK, "It _provides_ group communication services ..." >=20 >> p. 19 (4.4.2)=20 >> - is Receive meant to be non-blocking or blocking? >>=20 > It's implemented as blocking. >=20 >> - Can the application receive an event when data is available to=20 >> receive? >>=20 > That's implementation specific. The current events focus on local=20 > state changes. >=20 >> - How do you see an application implementing multi-resolution=20 >> multicast with this? >>=20 > It's more the question how to apply the API for multi-resolution=20 > multicast? You could use the mapping of names to addresses. Considering=20= > a domain with lightweight devices that want data in lower quality, for=20 > example, the corresponding gateway could map the name to another address=20= > compared to a gateway serving devices with higher capabilities. >=20 >> - how is mobility across multicast domains supported, that is, if a=20 >> roaming client moves from an IPv4 multicast network to an overlay=20 >> multicast network, is 1) the transition handled by the middleware, >> 2) the transition detectable by the application through the API,=20 >> 3) requires the application to detect the transition and make the=20 >> appropriate calls to the API to reconfigure the membership and socket? >>=20 > The application operates on the Group Name. The Group Name does not=20 > change with mobility. =46rom this perspective, the transition should be=20= > handled by the middleware. >=20 >> - how is XCAST (or, generally multi-destination multicast routing)=20 >> supported? For example, the discussion 3.5 Name to Address Mapping=20 >> would seem to be effected if we want to be able to associate a group=20 >> name with a list of unicast addresses. >>=20 > XCAST would be a separate interface (i.e., distribution technology). >=20 > As far as I understand XCAST, the destination list is unordered. If=20 > this is the case, it's easy to extend the naming scheme such that the=20 > instantiation of the group represents a set. >=20 >> - msg assembly/disassembly handled by the middleware for messages too=20 >> large to send in one multicast packet? >>=20 > The middleware layer should guarantee some maximal message size to the=20= > application developer. We will clarify this in the next version in a=20 > separate MTU section. >=20 >=20 >=20 > Cheers > matthias >=20 > --=20 > Matthias Waehlisch > . Freie Universitaet Berlin, Inst. fuer Informatik, AG CST > . Takustr. 9, D-14195 Berlin, Germany > .. mailto:waehlisch@ieee.org .. http://www.inf.fu-berlin.de/~waehl > :. Also: http://inet.cpt.haw-hamburg.de .. http://www.link-lab.net From waehlisch@ieee.org Thu Mar 29 00:14:28 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sam@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: sam@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C271D21E80E2 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2012 00:14:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -105.45 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-105.45 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, SARE_SUB_RAND_LETTRS4=0.799, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id twqyCPbP1YrQ for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2012 00:14:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.rz.htw-berlin.de (mail2.rz.htw-berlin.de [141.45.10.102]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA62E21E80FD for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2012 00:14:24 -0700 (PDT) Envelope-to: sam@irtf.org Received: from mol92-4-82-227-96-34.fbx.proxad.net ([82.227.96.34] helo=mw-PC) by mail2.rz.htw-berlin.de with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.72 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1SD9Ys-00085Z-B0; Thu, 29 Mar 2012 09:14:22 +0200 Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 09:14:29 +0200 From: Matthias Waehlisch To: John Buford In-Reply-To: <2178E111-A6E6-49A5-8622-033A27506409@samrg.org> Message-ID: References: <00eb01ccf582$6ee3acb0$4cab0610$@org> <2178E111-A6E6-49A5-8622-033A27506409@samrg.org> X-X-Sender: mw@mail2.rz.fhtw-berlin.de MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-HTW-SPAMINFO: this message was scanned by eXpurgate (http://www.eleven.de) X-HTW-DELIVERED-TO: sam@irtf.org Cc: "sam@irtf.org" Subject: Re: [SAM] RG last call for draft-irtf-samrg-common-api-04 X-BeenThere: sam@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "For use by members of the Scalable Adaptive Multicast \(SAM\) RG" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 07:14:28 -0000 Hi John, it's no problem to use "sips", as well. The scheme parameter can be extended. We will add some clarification statements regarding XCAST in the next version. Thanks matthias -- Matthias Waehlisch . Freie Universitaet Berlin, Inst. fuer Informatik, AG CST . Takustr. 9, D-14195 Berlin, Germany .. mailto:waehlisch@ieee.org .. http://www.inf.fu-berlin.de/~waehl :. Also: http://inet.cpt.haw-hamburg.de .. http://www.link-lab.net On Wed, 28 Mar 2012, John Buford wrote: > Hi Matthias, > > I believe "sip" and "sips" are two different schemes, the latter using secure connection. > > So it might be good to indicate whether sips can also be used. > > Personally I would like to see Xcast supported in this spec, but would endorse the ID for RGLC either way. > > John > > Sent from my iPad > > On Mar 28, 2012, at 11:57 AM, Matthias Waehlisch wrote: > > > Hi John, > > > > sorry for the late reply! > > > > On Mon, 27 Feb 2012, John Buford wrote: > > > >> p. 11 "Names can uniquely determine a group in a global communication > >> context". > >> - regarding "can", should this be "must" or "should"? > >> - please add language that specifies whether group names are intended > >> to be unique (by namespace domain, by all domains, across all active > >> sessions, across all past present or future sessions, other)? > >> > > OK. We will also clarify this in the Terminology section. The Group > > Name is intended to be unique by all domains. > > > >> - is the application responsible for selecting group names and > >> determining uniqueness? > >> > > Group Names can be chosen by the end user. Determining which > > component ensure uniqueness is out of scope of the document, I would > > say. > > > >> p. 11 "Details of service discovery are out of scope of this document" > >> - is it intended that this be 1) implementation specific detail, 2) > >> addressed in another specification, 3) use an existing service > >> discovery mechanism (if so, such as)? > >> > > It's maybe more a question to the research group. A separate document > > is not necessarily required. > > > >> p. 12, 15 > >> > >> is "sips" a possible scheme? > >> > > "sip", yes. > > > >> p. 10 "It group communication services ..." ? > >> > > OK, "It _provides_ group communication services ..." > > > >> p. 19 (4.4.2) > >> - is Receive meant to be non-blocking or blocking? > >> > > It's implemented as blocking. > > > >> - Can the application receive an event when data is available to > >> receive? > >> > > That's implementation specific. The current events focus on local > > state changes. > > > >> - How do you see an application implementing multi-resolution > >> multicast with this? > >> > > It's more the question how to apply the API for multi-resolution > > multicast? You could use the mapping of names to addresses. Considering > > a domain with lightweight devices that want data in lower quality, for > > example, the corresponding gateway could map the name to another address > > compared to a gateway serving devices with higher capabilities. > > > >> - how is mobility across multicast domains supported, that is, if a > >> roaming client moves from an IPv4 multicast network to an overlay > >> multicast network, is 1) the transition handled by the middleware, > >> 2) the transition detectable by the application through the API, > >> 3) requires the application to detect the transition and make the > >> appropriate calls to the API to reconfigure the membership and socket? > >> > > The application operates on the Group Name. The Group Name does not > > change with mobility. From this perspective, the transition should be > > handled by the middleware. > > > >> - how is XCAST (or, generally multi-destination multicast routing) > >> supported? For example, the discussion 3.5 Name to Address Mapping > >> would seem to be effected if we want to be able to associate a group > >> name with a list of unicast addresses. > >> > > XCAST would be a separate interface (i.e., distribution technology). > > > > As far as I understand XCAST, the destination list is unordered. If > > this is the case, it's easy to extend the naming scheme such that the > > instantiation of the group represents a set. > > > >> - msg assembly/disassembly handled by the middleware for messages too > >> large to send in one multicast packet? > >> > > The middleware layer should guarantee some maximal message size to the > > application developer. We will clarify this in the next version in a > > separate MTU section. > > > > > > > > Cheers > > matthias > > > > -- > > Matthias Waehlisch > > . Freie Universitaet Berlin, Inst. fuer Informatik, AG CST > > . Takustr. 9, D-14195 Berlin, Germany > > .. mailto:waehlisch@ieee.org .. http://www.inf.fu-berlin.de/~waehl > > :. Also: http://inet.cpt.haw-hamburg.de .. http://www.link-lab.net > From schmidt@informatik.haw-hamburg.de Thu Mar 29 08:07:53 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sam@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: sam@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1CFE21E8187 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2012 08:07:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.099 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.099 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.150, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PlC3y3j8jbTk for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2012 08:07:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.rz.htw-berlin.de (mail2.rz.htw-berlin.de [141.45.10.102]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2327A21E813F for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2012 08:07:52 -0700 (PDT) Envelope-to: sam@irtf.org Received: from dhcp-53c2.meeting.ietf.org ([130.129.83.194]) by mail2.rz.htw-berlin.de with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.72 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1SDGx4-000FqS-PT for sam@irtf.org; Thu, 29 Mar 2012 17:07:51 +0200 Message-ID: <4F747ACC.7090506@informatik.haw-hamburg.de> Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 17:07:56 +0200 From: "Thomas C. Schmidt" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120327 Thunderbird/11.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sam Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-HTW-SPAMINFO: this message was scanned by eXpurgate (http://www.eleven.de) X-HTW-DELIVERED-TO: sam@irtf.org Subject: [SAM] Slides and minutes online X-BeenThere: sam@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "For use by members of the Scalable Adaptive Multicast \(SAM\) RG" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 15:07:53 -0000 Hi all, slides & minutes of today's meeting are online: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/83/materials.html#wg-samrg Thanks, Thomas