From waehlisch@ieee.org Mon Jul 16 13:26:25 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sam@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: sam@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B312511E8118 for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 13:26:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -105.45 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-105.45 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, SARE_SUB_RAND_LETTRS4=0.799, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OIkmodGAakhP for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 13:26:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.rz.htw-berlin.de (mail2.rz.htw-berlin.de [141.45.10.102]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9503E11E80A3 for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 13:26:23 -0700 (PDT) Envelope-to: sam@irtf.org Received: from p5b28a081.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([91.40.160.129] helo=mw-PC) by mail2.rz.htw-berlin.de with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.72 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Sqrsp-0009j4-4q for sam@irtf.org; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 22:27:08 +0200 Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 22:27:22 +0200 From: Matthias Waehlisch To: sam@irtf.org Message-ID: X-X-Sender: mw@mail2.rz.fhtw-berlin.de MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-HTW-SPAMINFO: this message was scanned by eXpurgate (http://www.eleven.de) X-HTW-DELIVERED-TO: sam@irtf.org Subject: [SAM] New Version Notification for draft-irtf-samrg-common-api-05.txt (fwd) X-BeenThere: sam@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "For use by members of the Scalable Adaptive Multicast \(SAM\) RG" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 20:26:25 -0000 Hi folks, there is a new version of the Common Mcast API available: * http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-irtf-samrg-common-api-05 Changes consider the comments of the research group last call, in detail: 1. Added section "A Note on Explicit Multicast (XCAST)" 2. Added section "MTU Handling" 3. Added socket option getAtomicMSgSize 4. Added service call getMaxMsgSize Feedback is welcome! Cheers matthias -- Matthias Waehlisch . Freie Universitaet Berlin, Inst. fuer Informatik, AG CST . Takustr. 9, D-14195 Berlin, Germany .. mailto:waehlisch@ieee.org .. http://www.inf.fu-berlin.de/~waehl :. Also: http://inet.cpt.haw-hamburg.de .. http://www.link-lab.net ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 13:23:09 -0700 From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: mw@link-lab.net Cc: schmidt@informatik.haw-hamburg.de, stig@cisco.com Subject: New Version Notification for draft-irtf-samrg-common-api-05.txt A new version of I-D, draft-irtf-samrg-common-api-05.txt has been successfully submitted by Matthias Waehlisch and posted to the IETF repository. Filename: draft-irtf-samrg-common-api Revision: 05 Title: A Common API for Transparent Hybrid Multicast Creation date: 2012-07-16 WG ID: Individual Submission Number of pages: 39 URL: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-irtf-samrg-common-api-05.txt Status: http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-irtf-samrg-common-api Htmlized: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-irtf-samrg-common-api-05 Diff: http://tools.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-irtf-samrg-common-api-05 Abstract: Group communication services exist in a large variety of flavors, and technical implementations at different protocol layers. Multicast data distribution is most efficiently performed on the lowest available layer, but a heterogeneous deployment status of multicast technologies throughout the Internet requires an adaptive service binding at runtime. Today, it is difficult to write an application that runs everywhere and at the same time makes use of the most efficient multicast service available in the network. Facing robustness requirements, developers are frequently forced to use a stable, upper layer protocol provided by the application itself. This document describes a common multicast API that is suitable for transparent communication in underlay and overlay, and grants access to the different multicast flavors. It proposes an abstract naming by multicast URIs and discusses mapping mechanisms between different namespaces and distribution technologies. Additionally, it describes the application of this API for building gateways that interconnect current multicast domains throughout the Internet. The IETF Secretariat From lars@netapp.com Tue Jul 17 02:00:30 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sam@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: sam@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A20A321F867A for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 02:00:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.047 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.047 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.247, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8, SARE_SUB_RAND_LETTRS4=0.799] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JJHL-8yXrfIG for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 02:00:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx2.netapp.com (mx2.netapp.com [216.240.18.37]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EDAC21F8678 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 02:00:29 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.77,599,1336374000"; d="p7s'?scan'208";a="666301220" Received: from smtp1.corp.netapp.com ([10.57.156.124]) by mx2-out.netapp.com with ESMTP; 17 Jul 2012 02:01:14 -0700 Received: from vmwexceht04-prd.hq.netapp.com (vmwexceht04-prd.hq.netapp.com [10.106.77.34]) by smtp1.corp.netapp.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/NTAP-1.6) with ESMTP id q6H91CBO027092; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 02:01:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from SACEXCMBX01-PRD.hq.netapp.com ([169.254.2.13]) by vmwexceht04-prd.hq.netapp.com ([10.106.77.34]) with mapi id 14.02.0298.004; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 02:01:12 -0700 From: "Eggert, Lars" To: Matthias Waehlisch Thread-Topic: [SAM] New Version Notification for draft-irtf-samrg-common-api-05.txt (fwd) Thread-Index: AQHNY5FiwgLsrVokwU6M09Jz2N0bhJcto6AA Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 09:01:10 +0000 Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.106.53.51] Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_1EC7AF03-BE1B-404A-941A-F7AE0194DBB2"; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "" Subject: Re: [SAM] New Version Notification for draft-irtf-samrg-common-api-05.txt (fwd) X-BeenThere: sam@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "For use by members of the Scalable Adaptive Multicast \(SAM\) RG" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 09:00:30 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_1EC7AF03-BE1B-404A-941A-F7AE0194DBB2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi, On Jul 16, 2012, at 22:27, Matthias Waehlisch wrote: > there is a new version of the Common Mcast API available: > * http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-irtf-samrg-common-api-05 are these all the outstanding changes? In other words, is this document = ready for IRSG review? I also note that draft-samrg-sam-baseline-protocol-00 (still) has IANA = issues. RELOAD message codes can only be registered via an IETF = Standards Action (see draft-ietf-p2psip-base-22). An IRTF-stream = document thus cannot register these codes. In my view, this means that = draft-samrg-sam-baseline-protocol needs to move over to the IETF. Thanks, Lars >=20 > Changes consider the comments of the research group last call, in=20 > detail: >=20 > 1. Added section "A Note on Explicit Multicast (XCAST)" >=20 > 2. Added section "MTU Handling" >=20 > 3. Added socket option getAtomicMSgSize >=20 > 4. Added service call getMaxMsgSize >=20 >=20 > Feedback is welcome! >=20 >=20 >=20 > Cheers > matthias >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Matthias Waehlisch > . Freie Universitaet Berlin, Inst. fuer Informatik, AG CST > . Takustr. 9, D-14195 Berlin, Germany > .. mailto:waehlisch@ieee.org .. http://www.inf.fu-berlin.de/~waehl > :. Also: http://inet.cpt.haw-hamburg.de .. http://www.link-lab.net >=20 > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 13:23:09 -0700 > From: internet-drafts@ietf.org > To: mw@link-lab.net > Cc: schmidt@informatik.haw-hamburg.de, stig@cisco.com > Subject: New Version Notification for = draft-irtf-samrg-common-api-05.txt >=20 >=20 > A new version of I-D, draft-irtf-samrg-common-api-05.txt > has been successfully submitted by Matthias Waehlisch and posted to = the > IETF repository. >=20 > Filename: draft-irtf-samrg-common-api > Revision: 05 > Title: A Common API for Transparent Hybrid Multicast > Creation date: 2012-07-16 > WG ID: Individual Submission > Number of pages: 39 > URL: = http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-irtf-samrg-common-api-05.txt > Status: = http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-irtf-samrg-common-api > Htmlized: = http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-irtf-samrg-common-api-05 > Diff: = http://tools.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-irtf-samrg-common-api-05 >=20 > Abstract: > Group communication services exist in a large variety of flavors, = and > technical implementations at different protocol layers. Multicast > data distribution is most efficiently performed on the lowest > available layer, but a heterogeneous deployment status of multicast > technologies throughout the Internet requires an adaptive service > binding at runtime. Today, it is difficult to write an application > that runs everywhere and at the same time makes use of the most > efficient multicast service available in the network. Facing > robustness requirements, developers are frequently forced to use a > stable, upper layer protocol provided by the application itself. > This document describes a common multicast API that is suitable for > transparent communication in underlay and overlay, and grants access > to the different multicast flavors. It proposes an abstract naming > by multicast URIs and discusses mapping mechanisms between different > namespaces and distribution technologies. 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SARE_SUB_RAND_LETTRS4=0.799, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id frqQZyRBy1B3 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 02:38:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.rz.htw-berlin.de (mail2.rz.htw-berlin.de [141.45.10.102]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6772C21F8566 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 02:38:06 -0700 (PDT) Envelope-to: sam@irtf.org Received: from p5b289e6d.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([91.40.158.109] helo=mw-PC) by mail2.rz.htw-berlin.de with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.72 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Sr4F2-000MVs-Jw; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 11:38:52 +0200 Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 11:39:07 +0200 From: Matthias Waehlisch To: "Eggert, Lars" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: X-X-Sender: mw@mail2.rz.fhtw-berlin.de MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-HTW-SPAMINFO: this message was scanned by eXpurgate (http://www.eleven.de) X-HTW-DELIVERED-TO: sam@irtf.org Cc: "" Subject: Re: [SAM] New Version Notification for draft-irtf-samrg-common-api-05.txt (fwd) X-BeenThere: sam@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "For use by members of the Scalable Adaptive Multicast \(SAM\) RG" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 09:38:08 -0000 Hi Lars, On Tue, 17 Jul 2012, Eggert, Lars wrote: > > there is a new version of the Common Mcast API available: > > * http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-irtf-samrg-common-api-05 > > are these all the outstanding changes? In other words, is this > document ready for IRSG review? > arg, partially: As there is a thorough implementation of the API, I would like to change the status of the draft from "informational" to "experimental". This change I missed in version 05 :( but would like to make. Thanks matthias -- Matthias Waehlisch . Freie Universitaet Berlin, Inst. fuer Informatik, AG CST . Takustr. 9, D-14195 Berlin, Germany .. mailto:waehlisch@ieee.org .. http://www.inf.fu-berlin.de/~waehl :. Also: http://inet.cpt.haw-hamburg.de .. http://www.link-lab.net From buford@samrg.org Wed Jul 18 00:47:21 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sam@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: sam@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E83A721F86DA for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2012 00:47:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100.495 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.495 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id D1RXtbHIaOpm for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2012 00:47:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from oproxy9.bluehost.com (oproxy9.bluehost.com [IPv6:2605:dc00:100:2::a2]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id E775021F86B1 for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2012 00:47:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 31791 invoked by uid 0); 18 Jul 2012 07:48:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO host181.hostmonster.com) (74.220.207.181) by oproxy9.bluehost.com with SMTP; 18 Jul 2012 07:48:10 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=samrg.org; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Date:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Cc:To:From; bh=5azL9iDyUh4L0qkhTVoEyd/TUYkD9RLjsZ3pB+r0YdM=; b=ngICvjJyQ3RXd183+dh0MPoZ4Utdc38TUtPyaX5ZNRgTNPKHgELTMjqm7FAIQiqoEHi5G2LDvHIw8n6Qh2uvHjekxeERRtfeTvzVun3OYMaErjKuraxC4Z02LgSBVYHn; Received: from [68.37.208.245] (port=4784 helo=AGILON) by host181.hostmonster.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SrOzR-0002y8-Pd; Wed, 18 Jul 2012 01:48:09 -0600 From: "John Buford" To: "'Eggert, Lars'" References: In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2012 03:48:08 -0400 Message-ID: <055b01cd64b9$ad1fc440$075f4cc0$@org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AQHNY5FiwgLsrVokwU6M09Jz2N0bhJcto6AAgAEBN2A= Content-Language: en-us X-Identified-User: {2055:host181.hostmonster.com:samrgorg:samrg.org} {sentby:smtp auth 68.37.208.245 authed with buford@samrg.org} Cc: sam@irtf.org Subject: [SAM] sam-baseline-protocol-00 X-BeenThere: sam@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "For use by members of the Scalable Adaptive Multicast \(SAM\) RG" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2012 07:47:22 -0000 We're using the experimental message codes exp_{a,b}_{req,res} defined in 14.8 of p2psip-base-22 in the baseline draft presented at Paris (http://www.samrg.org/paris-83/) However I think when I submitted this draft there was a message from the submittal tool that RG items had to be approved by chairs, I don't think I know how do to do that. John -----Original Message----- From: sam-bounces@irtf.org [mailto:sam-bounces@irtf.org] On Behalf Of Eggert, Lars Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 5:01 AM To: Matthias Waehlisch Cc: Subject: Re: [SAM] New Version Notification for draft-irtf-samrg-common-api-05.txt (fwd) Hi, On Jul 16, 2012, at 22:27, Matthias Waehlisch wrote: > there is a new version of the Common Mcast API available: > * http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-irtf-samrg-common-api-05 are these all the outstanding changes? In other words, is this document ready for IRSG review? I also note that draft-samrg-sam-baseline-protocol-00 (still) has IANA issues. RELOAD message codes can only be registered via an IETF Standards Action (see draft-ietf-p2psip-base-22). An IRTF-stream document thus cannot register these codes. In my view, this means that draft-samrg-sam-baseline-protocol needs to move over to the IETF. Thanks, Lars > > Changes consider the comments of the research group last call, in > detail: > > 1. Added section "A Note on Explicit Multicast (XCAST)" > > 2. Added section "MTU Handling" > > 3. Added socket option getAtomicMSgSize > > 4. Added service call getMaxMsgSize > > > Feedback is welcome! > > > > Cheers > matthias > > > -- > Matthias Waehlisch > . Freie Universitaet Berlin, Inst. fuer Informatik, AG CST . > Takustr. 9, D-14195 Berlin, Germany .. mailto:waehlisch@ieee.org .. > http://www.inf.fu-berlin.de/~waehl > :. Also: http://inet.cpt.haw-hamburg.de .. http://www.link-lab.net > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 13:23:09 -0700 > From: internet-drafts@ietf.org > To: mw@link-lab.net > Cc: schmidt@informatik.haw-hamburg.de, stig@cisco.com > Subject: New Version Notification for > draft-irtf-samrg-common-api-05.txt > > > A new version of I-D, draft-irtf-samrg-common-api-05.txt > has been successfully submitted by Matthias Waehlisch and posted to > the IETF repository. > > Filename: draft-irtf-samrg-common-api > Revision: 05 > Title: A Common API for Transparent Hybrid Multicast > Creation date: 2012-07-16 > WG ID: Individual Submission > Number of pages: 39 > URL: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-irtf-samrg-common-api-05.txt > Status: http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-irtf-samrg-common-api > Htmlized: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-irtf-samrg-common-api-05 > Diff: http://tools.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-irtf-samrg-common-api-05 > > Abstract: > Group communication services exist in a large variety of flavors, and > technical implementations at different protocol layers. Multicast > data distribution is most efficiently performed on the lowest > available layer, but a heterogeneous deployment status of multicast > technologies throughout the Internet requires an adaptive service > binding at runtime. Today, it is difficult to write an application > that runs everywhere and at the same time makes use of the most > efficient multicast service available in the network. Facing > robustness requirements, developers are frequently forced to use a > stable, upper layer protocol provided by the application itself. > This document describes a common multicast API that is suitable for > transparent communication in underlay and overlay, and grants access > to the different multicast flavors. It proposes an abstract naming > by multicast URIs and discusses mapping mechanisms between different > namespaces and distribution technologies. Additionally, it describes > the application of this API for building gateways that interconnect > current multicast domains throughout the Internet. > > > > > The IETF Secretariat > _______________________________________________ > SAM mailing list > SAM@irtf.org > http://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/sam From lars@netapp.com Wed Jul 18 02:42:57 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sam@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: sam@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63C5321F86DD for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2012 02:42:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.414 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.414 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.185, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qChpAGa+y52w for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2012 02:42:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx2.netapp.com (mx2.netapp.com [216.240.18.37]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD61221F86B6 for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2012 02:42:55 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.77,609,1336374000"; d="p7s'?scan'208";a="666777299" Received: from smtp1.corp.netapp.com ([10.57.156.124]) by mx2-out.netapp.com with ESMTP; 18 Jul 2012 02:43:30 -0700 Received: from vmwexceht05-prd.hq.netapp.com (vmwexceht05-prd.hq.netapp.com [10.106.77.35]) by smtp1.corp.netapp.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/NTAP-1.6) with ESMTP id q6I9hTcd004029; Wed, 18 Jul 2012 02:43:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from SACEXCMBX01-PRD.hq.netapp.com ([169.254.2.13]) by vmwexceht05-prd.hq.netapp.com ([10.106.77.35]) with mapi id 14.02.0298.004; Wed, 18 Jul 2012 02:43:29 -0700 From: "Eggert, Lars" To: John Buford Thread-Topic: sam-baseline-protocol-00 Thread-Index: AQHNZLmv0+Wd/7ENG0+4C9O5C5zCxJcvP3gA Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2012 09:43:28 +0000 Message-ID: <43463C60-CAED-498A-AD80-9FC349833827@netapp.com> References: <055b01cd64b9$ad1fc440$075f4cc0$@org> In-Reply-To: <055b01cd64b9$ad1fc440$075f4cc0$@org> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.104.60.115] Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_2D07D792-A537-4CFB-BE3E-8B4F95E36A90"; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "" Subject: Re: [SAM] sam-baseline-protocol-00 X-BeenThere: sam@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "For use by members of the Scalable Adaptive Multicast \(SAM\) RG" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2012 09:42:57 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_2D07D792-A537-4CFB-BE3E-8B4F95E36A90 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi, On Jul 18, 2012, at 9:48, John Buford wrote: > We're using the experimental message codes exp_{a,b}_{req,res} defined = in > 14.8 of p2psip-base-22 > in the baseline draft presented at Paris = (http://www.samrg.org/paris-83/) Section 14 of the baseline protocol lists 13 message codes, whereas = Section 14.8 defines the four experimental message codes you list above. = How are you mapping the 13 to the 4? Also, the values in the baseline = protocol are different from the ones in p2psip-base-22. > However I think when I submitted this draft there was a message from = the > submittal tool > that RG items had to be approved by chairs, I don't think I know how = do to > do that. Try again and send me the error message, please. 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2012 07:24:24 -0600 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <43463C60-CAED-498A-AD80-9FC349833827@netapp.com> References: <055b01cd64b9$ad1fc440$075f4cc0$@org> <43463C60-CAED-498A-AD80-9FC349833827@netapp.com> Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2012 07:24:24 -0600 From: buford@samrg.org To: "Eggert, Lars" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.22 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Identified-User: {:host181.hostmonster.com:samrgorg:host181.hostmonster.com} {sentby:program running on server} Cc: sam@irtf.org Subject: Re: [SAM] sam-baseline-protocol-00 X-BeenThere: sam@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "For use by members of the Scalable Adaptive Multicast \(SAM\) RG" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2012 13:23:36 -0000 Here is the table in the March draft, section 15: +-------------------------+------------------+------------------+ | Message |RELOAD Code Point | ALM Message Code | +-------------------------+------------------+------------------+ | CreateALMTRee | 35 | 00 | +-------------------------+------------------+------------------+ | CreateALMTreeResponse | 36 | 01 | +-------------------------+------------------+------------------+ | Join | 36 | 02 | +-------------------------+------------------+------------------+ | JoinAccept | 36 | 03 | +-------------------------+------------------+------------------+ | JoinReject | 36 | 04 | +-------------------------+------------------+------------------+ | JoinConfirm | 36 | 05 | +-------------------------+------------------+------------------+ | JoinDecline | 36 | 06 | +-------------------------+------------------+------------------+ | Leave | 36 | 07 | +-------------------------+------------------+------------------+ | LeaveResponse | 36 | 08 | +-------------------------+------------------+------------------+ | Reform | 36 | 09 | +-------------------------+------------------+------------------+ | ReformResponse | 36 | x0A | +-------------------------+------------------+------------------+ | Heartbeat | 36 | x0B | +-------------------------+------------------+------------------+ | Push | 36 | x0C | +-------------------------+------------------+------------------+ | PushResponse | 36 | x0D | +-------------------------+------------------+------------------+ That is, we are using RELOAD exp_a_req and exp_a_ans for all cases. So the RELOAD message code will be either 35 or 36. Inside the RELOAD message body will be one of the ALM message codes. I will resubmit the draft and let you know the specific message. John > Hi, > > On Jul 18, 2012, at 9:48, John Buford wrote: >> We're using the experimental message codes exp_{a,b}_{req,res} defined >> in >> 14.8 of p2psip-base-22 >> in the baseline draft presented at Paris >> (http://www.samrg.org/paris-83/) > > Section 14 of the baseline protocol lists 13 message codes, whereas > Section 14.8 defines the four experimental message codes you list above. > How are you mapping the 13 to the 4? Also, the values in the baseline > protocol are different from the ones in p2psip-base-22. > >> However I think when I submitted this draft there was a message from the >> submittal tool >> that RG items had to be approved by chairs, I don't think I know how do >> to >> do that. > > Try again and send me the error message, please. > > Lars From lars@netapp.com Wed Jul 18 07:44:44 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sam@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: sam@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD8DF21F8789 for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2012 07:44:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.422 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.422 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.177, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QiaYD9YIFouV for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2012 07:44:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx2.netapp.com (mx2.netapp.com [216.240.18.37]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AD3521F8779 for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2012 07:44:31 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.77,610,1336374000"; d="p7s'?scan'208";a="666833583" Received: from smtp2.corp.netapp.com ([10.57.159.114]) by mx2-out.netapp.com with ESMTP; 18 Jul 2012 07:44:52 -0700 Received: from vmwexceht04-prd.hq.netapp.com (vmwexceht04-prd.hq.netapp.com [10.106.77.34]) by smtp2.corp.netapp.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/NTAP-1.6) with ESMTP id q6IEiqAp013699; Wed, 18 Jul 2012 07:44:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from SACEXCMBX01-PRD.hq.netapp.com ([169.254.2.13]) by vmwexceht04-prd.hq.netapp.com ([10.106.77.34]) with mapi id 14.02.0298.004; Wed, 18 Jul 2012 07:44:51 -0700 From: "Eggert, Lars" To: " " Thread-Topic: sam-baseline-protocol-00 Thread-Index: AQHNZLmv0+Wd/7ENG0+4C9O5C5zCxJcvP3gAgAA9uACAABZ5AA== Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2012 14:44:51 +0000 Message-ID: <8530BDC7-1739-44EA-8E7C-AD8AB747F284@netapp.com> References: <055b01cd64b9$ad1fc440$075f4cc0$@org> <43463C60-CAED-498A-AD80-9FC349833827@netapp.com> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.104.60.115] Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_48724875-EA94-4DA6-B20D-D837F810454B"; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "" Subject: Re: [SAM] sam-baseline-protocol-00 X-BeenThere: sam@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "For use by members of the Scalable Adaptive Multicast \(SAM\) RG" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2012 14:44:45 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_48724875-EA94-4DA6-B20D-D837F810454B Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi, On Jul 18, 2012, at 15:24, wrote: > Here is the table in the March draft, section 15: ... > That is, we are using RELOAD exp_a_req and exp_a_ans for all cases. OK, good. (Since the draft isn't available, it was kinda hard for me to = see this table :-) > So the RELOAD message code will be either 35 or 36. > Inside the RELOAD message body will be one of the ALM message codes. >=20 > I will resubmit the draft and let you know the specific message. Great, thanks. We do need to wrap this up. 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for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 18:20:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dehawshub02.mailcluster.haw-hamburg.de ([141.22.200.52]) by mail6.is.haw-hamburg.de with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-MD5; 21 Jul 2012 03:21:51 +0200 Received: from dehawscas02.mailcluster.haw-hamburg.de (141.22.200.82) by DEHAWSHUB02.mailcluster.haw-hamburg.de (141.22.200.52) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.3.83.0; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 03:21:51 +0200 Received: from mobi14.cpt.haw-hamburg.de (141.22.200.55) by haw-mailer.haw-hamburg.de (141.22.200.80) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.3.83.0; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 03:21:50 +0200 From: Sebastian Meiling Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 03:21:50 +0200 Message-ID: <744FF47A-0F5F-4EC1-97AF-8D13842A1D56@haw-hamburg.de> To: "users@lists.german-lab.de" , "sam@irtf.org" MIME-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) Subject: [SAM] HAMcast 0.5 released X-BeenThere: sam@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "For use by members of the Scalable Adaptive Multicast \(SAM\) RG" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 01:20:56 -0000 Dear all, we want to announce a new major release of the HAMcast prototype, that = is now available online at: =20 http://hamcast.realmv6.org/developers/wiki/download Besides several bug fixes, we also updated the API implementation. These = changes correspond to recent updates on the IRTF draft: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-irtf-samrg-common-api =09 Further information on HAMcast can be found on = 'http://http://hamcast.realmv6.org/' and = 'http://inet.cpt.haw-hamburg.de/'. If you have any questions don't = hesitate to contact us or join the developers mailing-list: = http://hamcast.realmv6.org/developers/wiki/mailinglist. Regards, Sebastian Sebastian Meiling +---------------------------------------+ Internet Technologies Group Department of Computer Science Hamburg University of Applied Sciences Berliner Tor 7, 20099 Hamburg, Germany +---------------------------------------+ Mail: sebastian.meiling@haw-hamburg.de Fon: +49 40 42875 - 8067 Fax: +49 40 42875 - 8409 Web: http://www.haw-hamburg.de/inet +---------------------------------------+ From buford@samrg.org Mon Jul 30 14:24:42 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sam@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: sam@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7C7411E80F6 for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 14:24:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -99.445 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-99.445 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.251, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553, RDNS_NONE=0.1, SARE_SUB_RAND_LETTRS4=0.799, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id O4ry2m+6Ks18 for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 14:24:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from oproxy5-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy5.bluehost.com [IPv6:2605:dc00:100:2::a5]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id AE4A911E808E for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 14:24:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 1065 invoked by uid 0); 30 Jul 2012 18:33:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO host181.hostmonster.com) (74.220.207.181) by cpoproxy2.bluehost.com with SMTP; 30 Jul 2012 18:33:45 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=samrg.org; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Date:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Cc:To:From; bh=weCUZEUVpKwzcJE81UkP6tdP0QsaOPoSkoWmjWTjAjU=; b=jxs9PS1RyFKBcdxwqf8JNS/hyjbsUvOCKdKV8uL8VsRjbnsHVojHHe9MQDGFAEAl5m3rb9TspDqY4gPAl97Rf3fZsKQDj4Oly9tZreyr/ebRlKxQYrtjYCnmb1twJad8; Received: from [68.37.208.245] (port=1866 helo=AGILON) by host181.hostmonster.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Svumm-0001sp-VH; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 12:33:45 -0600 From: "John Buford" To: "'Matthias Waehlisch'" References: In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 14:33:59 -0400 Message-ID: <0e1601cd6e81$e32fa740$a98ef5c0$@org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Ac1jkWM9lnvOr0S5QVytN6T+oHkMMwK7NiXA Content-Language: en-us X-Identified-User: {2055:host181.hostmonster.com:samrgorg:samrg.org} {sentby:smtp auth 68.37.208.245 authed with buford@samrg.org} Cc: sam@irtf.org Subject: Re: [SAM] New Version Notification for draft-irtf-samrg-common-api-05.txt X-BeenThere: sam@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "For use by members of the Scalable Adaptive Multicast \(SAM\) RG" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 21:24:42 -0000 Hi Matthias, >From earlier comments on -04 version: Can you indicate in the document whether "sips:" URI scheme is supported or not. This typo is now on p. 11 of the -05 draft >> p. 10 "It group communication services ..." ? >> > OK, "It _provides_ group communication services ..." Please indicate in the ID whether Receive must be blocking or non-blocking or can be either. >> p. 19 (4.4.2) >> - is Receive meant to be non-blocking or blocking? >> > It's implemented as blocking. For IRSG review, please note (per RFC 5743, sec 2.1): o There must be a statement in the abstract identifying it as the product of the RG. o There must be a paragraph near the beginning (for example, in the introduction) describing the level of support for publication. Example text might read: "this document represents the consensus of the FOOBAR RG" or "the views in this document were considered controversial by the FOOBAR RG but the RG reached a consensus that the document should still be published". o The breadth of review the document has received must also be noted. For example, was this document read by all the active research group members, only three people, or folks who are not "in" the RG but are expert in the area? o It must also be very clear throughout the document that it is not an IETF product and is not a standard. Thanks, John -----Original Message----- From: sam-bounces@irtf.org [mailto:sam-bounces@irtf.org] On Behalf Of Matthias Waehlisch Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 4:27 PM To: sam@irtf.org Subject: [SAM] New Version Notification for draft-irtf-samrg-common-api-05.txt (fwd) Hi folks, there is a new version of the Common Mcast API available: * http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-irtf-samrg-common-api-05 Changes consider the comments of the research group last call, in detail: 1. Added section "A Note on Explicit Multicast (XCAST)" 2. Added section "MTU Handling" 3. Added socket option getAtomicMSgSize 4. Added service call getMaxMsgSize Feedback is welcome! Cheers matthias -- Matthias Waehlisch . Freie Universitaet Berlin, Inst. fuer Informatik, AG CST . Takustr. 9, D-14195 Berlin, Germany .. mailto:waehlisch@ieee.org .. http://www.inf.fu-berlin.de/~waehl :. Also: http://inet.cpt.haw-hamburg.de .. http://www.link-lab.net ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 13:23:09 -0700 From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: mw@link-lab.net Cc: schmidt@informatik.haw-hamburg.de, stig@cisco.com Subject: New Version Notification for draft-irtf-samrg-common-api-05.txt A new version of I-D, draft-irtf-samrg-common-api-05.txt has been successfully submitted by Matthias Waehlisch and posted to the IETF repository. Filename: draft-irtf-samrg-common-api Revision: 05 Title: A Common API for Transparent Hybrid Multicast Creation date: 2012-07-16 WG ID: Individual Submission Number of pages: 39 URL: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-irtf-samrg-common-api-05.txt Status: http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-irtf-samrg-common-api Htmlized: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-irtf-samrg-common-api-05 Diff: http://tools.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-irtf-samrg-common-api-05 Abstract: Group communication services exist in a large variety of flavors, and technical implementations at different protocol layers. Multicast data distribution is most efficiently performed on the lowest available layer, but a heterogeneous deployment status of multicast technologies throughout the Internet requires an adaptive service binding at runtime. Today, it is difficult to write an application that runs everywhere and at the same time makes use of the most efficient multicast service available in the network. Facing robustness requirements, developers are frequently forced to use a stable, upper layer protocol provided by the application itself. This document describes a common multicast API that is suitable for transparent communication in underlay and overlay, and grants access to the different multicast flavors. It proposes an abstract naming by multicast URIs and discusses mapping mechanisms between different namespaces and distribution technologies. Additionally, it describes the application of this API for building gateways that interconnect current multicast domains throughout the Internet. The IETF Secretariat _______________________________________________ SAM mailing list SAM@irtf.org http://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/sam From waehlisch@ieee.org Mon Jul 30 23:46:13 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sam@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: sam@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1526F11E80A3 for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 23:46:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -105.45 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-105.45 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, SARE_SUB_RAND_LETTRS4=0.799, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id J7+-pbP3UuQS for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 23:46:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.rz.htw-berlin.de (mail2.rz.htw-berlin.de [141.45.10.102]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C990A11E80EE for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 23:46:11 -0700 (PDT) Envelope-to: sam@irtf.org Received: from s0106586d8ffdf6e5.vc.shawcable.net ([24.85.67.130] helo=mw-PC.vc.shawcable.net) by mail2.rz.htw-berlin.de with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.72 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Sw6DT-0002RY-Gi; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 08:46:04 +0200 Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 23:46:31 -0700 (Pacific Sommerzeit) From: Matthias Waehlisch To: John Buford In-Reply-To: <0e1601cd6e81$e32fa740$a98ef5c0$@org> Message-ID: References: <0e1601cd6e81$e32fa740$a98ef5c0$@org> X-X-Sender: mw@mail2.rz.fhtw-berlin.de MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-HTW-SPAMINFO: this message was scanned by eXpurgate (http://www.eleven.de) X-HTW-DELIVERED-TO: sam@irtf.org Cc: sam@irtf.org Subject: Re: [SAM] New Version Notification for draft-irtf-samrg-common-api-05.txt X-BeenThere: sam@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "For use by members of the Scalable Adaptive Multicast \(SAM\) RG" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 06:46:13 -0000 Hi John, On Mon, 30 Jul 2012, John Buford wrote: > From earlier comments on -04 version: > > Can you indicate in the document whether "sips:" URI scheme is > supported or not. > I'm not really in favor of this due to two reasons. (1) The API spec mentions just some example schemes. There is no claim for completeness. (2) SIPS is explicitly a point-to-point protocol. Thus, if we add SIPS we have to add a side note how this fits into multicast. > This typo is now on p. 11 of the -05 draft > >> p. 10 "It group communication services ..." ? > >> > > OK, "It _provides_ group communication services ..." > > Please indicate in the ID whether Receive must be blocking or > non-blocking or can be either. > OK, it can either. Thanks matthias -- Matthias Waehlisch . Freie Universitaet Berlin, Inst. fuer Informatik, AG CST . Takustr. 9, D-14195 Berlin, Germany .. mailto:waehlisch@ieee.org .. http://www.inf.fu-berlin.de/~waehl :. Also: http://inet.cpt.haw-hamburg.de .. http://www.link-lab.net