From nobody Thu Jun 1 06:59:36 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sidrops@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: sidrops@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A8E31277BB for ; Thu, 1 Jun 2017 06:59:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.101 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.101 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_40=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=zdns.cn Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jUIp3qMuBh-h for ; Thu, 1 Jun 2017 06:59:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.zdns.cn (mail.knet.cn [202.173.10.13]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6E4BB1242EA for ; Thu, 1 Jun 2017 06:59:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=zdns.cn; s=dkim; x=1496930372; i=madi@zdns.cn; h=Content-Type: Mime-Version:Subject:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Cc: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:References:To; bh=65blwuIIk r1NItNXrxMdkQBnzinCvUVFcEngn/H6wW0=; b=d9S7oxd8rQdeu2O1W8bVH/Aq0 ZDPStSjDQJM5VA+lxVz2708yBghY2HZlM3jGwDVixV8gw6JQn3oEEjGWf96ae9nh sgTOkNGDvgz89R7/KTHO92OavtO5rSRN3bAtKcnhzWE1wJAue18MceW2V+tcvhBE YRHVf2BNVNEigGQ+10= X-TM-DID: 2997fee94ad879592fbac2cd24591996 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=gb2312 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.3 \(3273\)) From: Declan Ma In-Reply-To: <457EED60-10C5-4445-AD63-6916A1738484@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2017 21:59:12 +0800 Cc: sidrops@ietf.org, sidr wg list Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <82EE6F8D-2924-4201-85E4-5CF359F28F8F@zdns.cn> References: <457EED60-10C5-4445-AD63-6916A1738484@gmail.com> To: "Carlos M. Martinez" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3273) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Sidrops] [sidr] RPSTIR updated X-BeenThere: sidrops@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2017 13:59:35 -0000 Carlos, Thank you for giving it a try. Your feedback will make RPSTIR a better work.=20 Declan(Di) Ma > =D4=DA 2017=C4=EA5=D4=C230=C8=D5=A3=AC10:01=A3=ACCarlos M. Martinez = =D0=B4=B5=C0=A3=BA >=20 > Thanks ! I=A1=AFll give it a try. >=20 > On 25 Mar 2017, at 4:09, Declan Ma wrote: >=20 >> Hi, folks, >>=20 >> We RPSTIR team just had the very software updated to support the = algorithm specified by Validation Reconsidered = (draft-ietf-sidr-rpki-validation-reconsidered-07) . >>=20 >> Given the SIDR WG has not reach the agreement whether and how new = OIDs should be employed, this release, for the time being, is counting = on the old OIDs. >>=20 >> And we will shift into new OIDs accordingly once the IETF has come = into a conclusion about that. >>=20 >> Welcome to have a try on this new version of RPSTIR. >>=20 >> We would appreciate your feedbacks. >>=20 >> https://github.com/bgpsecurity/rpstir/releases >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> Declan(Di) Ma >>=20 >> ZDNS >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> sidr mailing list >> sidr@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sidr >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Sidrops mailing list > Sidrops@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sidrops From nobody Thu Jun 22 08:36:21 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sidrops@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: sidrops@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68FB3126DED for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2017 21:05:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.901 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.901 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id m_Ok7vRUjRlb for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2017 21:05:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from walnut.tislabs.com (walnut.tislabs.com [192.94.214.200]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 62E62126DCA for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2017 21:05:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nova.tislabs.com (unknown [10.66.1.77]) by walnut.tislabs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEE3328B0041 for ; Wed, 21 Jun 2017 00:05:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by nova.tislabs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B51971F8036; Wed, 21 Jun 2017 00:05:40 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2104\)) From: Sandra Murphy Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2017 00:03:00 -0400 Cc: Sandra Murphy Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <87ACB275-5A80-427B-A6D6-D888CC72E03C@tislabs.com> To: sidrops@ietf.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2104) Archived-At: X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 22 Jun 2017 08:36:20 -0700 Subject: [Sidrops] Fwd: once more with feeling! WGLC for draft-ietf-sidr-slurm-04 X-BeenThere: sidrops@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: A list for the SIDR Operations WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2017 04:05:43 -0000 The sidr working group is in wglc for the draft = draft-ietf-sidr-slurm-04, "Simplified Local internet nUmber Resource = Management with the RPKI". The draft specifies a mechanism that could be of interest to the = operators here. As the draft says "SLURM allows an operator to create a = local view of the global RPKI=E2=80=9D. It would be good to get some eyes here to review the draft. If you have = comments, please do bring them to the wglc in sidr. =E2=80=94Sandy, speaking as one of the sidr co-chairs > Begin forwarded message: >=20 > From: Sandra Murphy > Subject: once more with feeling! WGLC for draft-ietf-sidr-slurm-04 > Date: June 20, 2017 at 11:38:44 PM EDT > To: Christopher Morrow > Cc: Sandra Murphy , Tim Bruijnzeels , = sidr chairs , sidr > Resent-From: > Resent-To: morrowc@ops-netman.net, sandy@tislabs.com >=20 > The =E2=80=9Cnot have gotten much=E2=80=9D was one request from an = author, which got no response from the working group. >=20 > Come on, folks. We can do this. >=20 > Maybe the usual increase in attention and energy of an approaching = meeting will help. >=20 > This starts a second wglc for draft-ietf-sidr-slurm-04. Since it is = the second wglc, it will be short, ending 30 Jun 2017. >=20 > Silence is not consent. Consensus for publication requires actual = comment. Read it. Speak up. >=20 > =E2=80=94Sandy, speaking as one of the wg co-chairs >=20 >=20 >> On Jun 20, 2017, at 11:52 AM, Christopher Morrow = wrote: >>=20 >> Howdy WG folks. this seems to not have gotten much review (after the = authors changed a bunch).. can we get some readin/reviewin/commentin = going on here please? :) >>=20 >> On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 2:06 PM, Tim Bruijnzeels = wrote: >> Dear WG >>=20 >> One thing the authors noted was that there may be discussion needed = around the filtering of BGPSec assertions based on matching SKI - as the = document currently says. This was added mainly in an attempt to make the = spec feature complete and give an operator full freedom on filter rules. >>=20 >> SKIs use SHA-1. And recently it has been shown that SHA-1 collisions = can be generated. This could lead one to believe that filtering of = assertions based on a SKIs may not be a good idea. However, it should be = noted that such collisions are probably irrelevant here. A =E2=80=98malici= ous' CA can always issue another router certificate for an existing (and = requested) router certificate SKI and public key. So =E2=80=98collisions=E2= =80=99 can exist anyway and a more secure hashing algorithm would not = help. >>=20 >> The more fundamental question here is if it is really useful to have = filtering based on the key itself - and if so - should it be possible to = filter on the key alone (as the draft allows) or only in combination = with an asserted ASN for that key (also allowed in this draft)? >>=20 >> As said it was mainly added for feature completeness, but it would be = good to hear from this WG what the thoughts are. Personally I don=E2=80=99= t see a big issue here - and would leave it to operators to use the = options as they see fit. But if there are concerns and there is no = clear use case then I for one would be happy to take it out again in = which case BGPSec assertions can only be filtered on matching ASN. >>=20 >> Cheers >> Tim >>=20 >>> On 10 Apr 2017, at 17:49, Sandra Murphy wrote: >>>=20 >>> The authors of draft-ietf-sidr-slurm-04, "Simplified Local internet = nUmber Resource Management with the RPKI=E2=80=9D, have indicated that = they believe the current version includes all wg comments and is mature = and ready for working group last call. >>>=20 >>> This message starts a WGLC for draft-ietf-sidr-slurm-04. The WGLC = will end 24 April 2017. >>>=20 >>> The draft can be found at = https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-sidr-slurm-04 or = https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-sidr-slurm/. >>>=20 >>> Please reply to the list whether the document is ready for = publication or you have comments that you think should be addressed. >>>=20 >>> Please do read and respond to the list. Remember that responses are = required to gauge consensus, silence is not consent. >>>=20 >>> =E2=80=94Sandy, speaking as wg co-chair >>> _______________________________________________ >>> sidr mailing list >>> sidr@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sidr >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> sidr mailing list >> sidr@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sidr >>=20 From nobody Thu Jun 22 10:08:47 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sidrops@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: sidrops@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBDF3129AF9; Thu, 22 Jun 2017 10:08:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.701 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.701 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-2.8, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); 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Fri, 23 Jun 2017 17:07:02 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "\"IETF Secretariat\"" To: , Cc: sidrops@ietf.org, warren@kumari.net X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.55.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <149826282210.7840.16720540213982546657.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2017 17:07:02 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [Sidrops] sidrops - Requested session has been scheduled for IETF 99 X-BeenThere: sidrops@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: A list for the SIDR Operations WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2017 00:07:02 -0000 Dear Chris Morrow, The session(s) that you have requested have been scheduled. Below is the scheduled session information followed by the original request. sidrops Session 1 (1:30:00) Monday, Afternoon Session II 1550-1720 Room Name: Congress Hall III size: 250 --------------------------------------------- Request Information: --------------------------------------------------------- Working Group Name: SIDR Operations Area Name: Operations and Management Area Session Requester: Chris Morrow Number of Sessions: 1 Length of Session(s): 1.5 Hours Number of Attendees: 80 Conflicts to Avoid: First Priority: idr Second Priority: grow Third Priority: opsec People who must be present: Keyur Patel Chris Morrow Warren Kumari Resources Requested: Special Requests: ---------------------------------------------------------