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Did this get scheduled?

--aaron

On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 12:21 PM, Spencer Dawkins at IETF <
spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:

> Just to try to be helpful ...
>
> On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 2:54 AM, Bob Briscoe <ietf@bobbriscoe.net> wrote:
>
>> John,
>>
>> On 19/02/16 18:23, John Leslie wrote:
>>
>>> Bob Briscoe <ietf@bobbriscoe.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm cross-posting 'cos this impacts 3 IETF WGs and interested
>>>> implementers.
>>>>
>>>> We would like to propose a Bar BoF at the Buenos Aires IETF, about L4S,
>>>> DualQ and solutions to the TCP Prague Requirements.
>>>>
>>>     This feels like it belongs as a non-WG-forming formal BoF.
>>>
>>>     It describes work spanning at least three WGs; and could benefit from
>>> formal scheduling to avoid conflicts with those WGs and others.
>>>
>>>     OTOH, it really isn't to the point where a WG charter can reasonably
>>> be drafted. First we must decide whether the work _can_ be split among
>>> existing WGs.
>>>
>>>     However this may turn out, I wish to participate remotely.
>>>
>> OK, we'll see if the secretariat can help us with that.
>>
>
> I believe that happens at http://www.ietf.org/meeting/amreq.html. If you
> put "TSV" in as "type of meeting", your happy TSV ADs would see the request.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Spencer
>
>
>> Unfortunately we ran out of time for the formal BoF deadline on Friday.
>>
>>
>> Bob
>>
>>
>>> --
>>> John Leslie <john@jlc.net>
>>>
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>>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Did this get scheduled?<div><br></div><div>--aaron</div><d=
iv class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Feb 22, 201=
6 at 12:21 PM, Spencer Dawkins at IETF <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mai=
lto:spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">spencerdawkins.ietf@gm=
ail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D=
"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D=
"ltr">Just to try to be helpful ...<div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div clas=
s=3D"gmail_quote"><span class=3D"">On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 2:54 AM, Bob Bri=
scoe <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ietf@bobbriscoe.net" target=3D=
"_blank">ietf@bobbriscoe.net</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"=
gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border=
-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">John=
,<span><br>
<br>
On 19/02/16 18:23, John Leslie wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-=
left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;p=
adding-left:1ex">
Bob Briscoe &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ietf@bobbriscoe.net" target=3D"_blank">ie=
tf@bobbriscoe.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-=
left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;p=
adding-left:1ex">
I&#39;m cross-posting &#39;cos this impacts 3 IETF WGs and interested imple=
menters.<br>
<br>
We would like to propose a Bar BoF at the Buenos Aires IETF, about L4S,<br>
DualQ and solutions to the TCP Prague Requirements.<br>
</blockquote>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 This feels like it belongs as a non-WG-forming formal BoF.<br=
>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 It describes work spanning at least three WGs; and could bene=
fit from<br>
formal scheduling to avoid conflicts with those WGs and others.<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 OTOH, it really isn&#39;t to the point where a WG charter can=
 reasonably<br>
be drafted. First we must decide whether the work _can_ be split among<br>
existing WGs.<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 However this may turn out, I wish to participate remotely.<br=
>
</blockquote></span>
OK, we&#39;ll see if the secretariat can help us with that.<br></blockquote=
><div><br></div></span><div>I believe that happens at=C2=A0<a href=3D"http:=
//www.ietf.org/meeting/amreq.html" target=3D"_blank">http://www.ietf.org/me=
eting/amreq.html</a>. If you put &quot;TSV&quot; in as &quot;type of meetin=
g&quot;, your happy TSV ADs would see the request.</div><div><br></div><div=
>Thanks,</div><div><br></div><div>Spencer</div><span class=3D""><div>=C2=A0=
</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;b=
order-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:s=
olid;padding-left:1ex">
Unfortunately we ran out of time for the formal BoF deadline on Friday.<spa=
n><font color=3D"#888888"><br>
<br>
<br>
Bob<br>
<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-=
left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;p=
adding-left:1ex">
<br>
--<br>
John Leslie &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:john@jlc.net" target=3D"_blank">john@jlc.=
net</a>&gt;<br>
<br>
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