From bclaise@cisco.com Tue Jun 5 06:27:43 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8189921F86A4 for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 06:27:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Rk4Z7Sy5fFFD for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 06:27:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from av-tac-sj.cisco.com (av-tac-sj.cisco.com [171.68.227.119]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DC5E21F8683 for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 06:27:42 -0700 (PDT) X-TACSUNS: Virus Scanned Received: from fire.cisco.com (localhost.cisco.com [127.0.0.1]) by av-tac-sj.cisco.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q55DRfPt008113; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 06:27:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.21.92.6] (sjc-vpn5-1030.cisco.com [10.21.92.6]) by fire.cisco.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q55DReZj022552; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 06:27:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4FCE094C.4010704@cisco.com> Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2012 06:27:40 -0700 From: Benoit Claise User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120428 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tools Team Discussion References: In-Reply-To: X-Forwarded-Message-Id: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------080607080803060505010509" Cc: me , Ron Bonica , "C. M. Heard" Subject: [Tools-discuss] Fwd: RE: URLs for MIB boilerplate web pages no longer work X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2012 13:27:43 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------080607080803060505010509 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, What should be done to have redirects from the no longer active www.ops.ietf.org to http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/ops/trac/wiki/ ? See the full discussion below. Please let us know. Note: in the past, ops.ietf.org resolved to 147.28.0.62, which was the psg.com, administered by Randy Bush. Regards, Benoit. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: RE: URLs for MIB boilerplate web pages no longer work Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 06:03:07 -0700 (PDT) From: C. M. Heard To: Romascanu, Dan (Dan) CC: ops-ads@tools.ietf.org, Benoit Claise , Ron Bonica , "Bert Wijnen (IETF)" Hi Dan, Thanks for your reply. Indeed I did miss the discussion; no surprise there, since I just lurk now and then. In looking through RFC 4181 I see that there are just four unique URLS that refer to www.ops.ietf.org: http://www.ops.ietf.org/mib-boilerplate.html http://www.ops.ietf.org/mib-common-tcs.html http://www.ops.ietf.org/mib-review-tools.html http://www.ops.ietf.org/mib-security.html and I see that the replacements are (respectively): http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/ops/trac/wiki/mib-boilerplate http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/ops/trac/wiki/mib-common-tcs http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/ops/trac/wiki/mib-review-tools http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/ops/trac/wiki/mib-security If an erratum is the best that can be done so be it but it would be a lot less confusing for someone new to the game if the old URLs could be made to redirect to the new ones. That has been done with many of the other URLs in RFC 4181, for instance http://www.ietf.org/ID-Checklist.html now redirects to http://www.ietf.org/id-info/checklist.html (I did a quick check of the other non-ops.ietf.org URLs and they seem to work). I guess this is something for Benoit to take up with the tools team if he thinks it is needed. Regards, Mike Heard On Tue, 5 Jun 2012, Romascanu, Dan (Dan) wrote: > Hi Mike, > > You probably missed the discussions and announcements. We moved all > these pages to the OPS area wiki last year. I think that > www.ops.ietf.org is no longer active. > > I do not know if it is possible for the addresses at www.ops.ietf.org to > become an alias for the wiki pages. If not maybe we can issue an errata > to RFC 4181. Would this be an acceptable use of an errata? > > Regards, > > Dan > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: C. M. Heard [mailto:heard@pobox.com] > > Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 8:28 PM > > To: Benoit Claise; Ron Bonica; ops-ads@tools.ietf.org > > Cc: Romascanu, Dan (Dan); Bert Wijnen (IETF) > > Subject: URLs for MIB boilerplate web pages no longer work > > > > OPS ADs - > > > > It seems that all the links in RFC 4181 that point to > > www.ops.ietf.org are now broken. That includes stuff like the MIB > > boilerplate, the security section template, and numerous other > > things that at one time at least were essential to preparing a MIB > > document. Has this stuff moved somewhere that has not been > > documented, or has it just disappeared? I googled for it but came > > up empty. > > > > FWIW, I think the ops.ietf.org and www.ops.ietf.org pages were > > actually hosted at psg.com but these domains seem not to be valid > > anymore. Maybe it would be a good idea to recover the data from > > psg.com (if it can be found) and get it rehosted by the IETF > > secretariat at the same URLs as in RFC 4181. > > > > I've copied Dan Romascanu and Bert Wijnen since they were previously > > the ADs responsible for this stuff and know the history a lot better > > than I do. > > > > Sorry if this is a false alarm. > > > > Thanks and regards > > > > Mike Heard > > Editor of RFC 4181 > --------------080607080803060505010509 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi,

What should be done to have redirects from the no longer active www.ops.ietf.org to http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/ops/trac/wiki/ ?
See the full discussion below.
Please let us know.

Note: in the past,  ops.ietf.org resolved to 147.28.0.62, which was the psg.com, administered by Randy Bush.

Regards, Benoit.

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: RE: URLs for MIB boilerplate web pages no longer work
Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 06:03:07 -0700 (PDT)
From: C. M. Heard <heard@pobox.com>
To: Romascanu, Dan (Dan) <dromasca@avaya.com>
CC: ops-ads@tools.ietf.org, Benoit Claise <bclaise@cisco.com>, Ron Bonica <rbonica@juniper.net>, "Bert Wijnen (IETF)" <bertietf@bwijnen.net> 


Hi Dan,

Thanks for your reply.  Indeed I did miss the discussion; no 
surprise there, since I just lurk now and then.

In looking through RFC 4181 I see that there are just four 
unique URLS that refer to www.ops.ietf.org:

http://www.ops.ietf.org/mib-boilerplate.html
http://www.ops.ietf.org/mib-common-tcs.html
http://www.ops.ietf.org/mib-review-tools.html
http://www.ops.ietf.org/mib-security.html

and I see that the replacements are (respectively):

http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/ops/trac/wiki/mib-boilerplate
http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/ops/trac/wiki/mib-common-tcs
http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/ops/trac/wiki/mib-review-tools
http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/ops/trac/wiki/mib-security

If an erratum is the best that can be done so be it but it would be 
a lot less confusing for someone new to the game if the old URLs 
could be made to redirect to the new ones.  That has been done with 
many of the other URLs in RFC 4181, for instance

http://www.ietf.org/ID-Checklist.html

now redirects to

http://www.ietf.org/id-info/checklist.html

(I did a quick check of the other non-ops.ietf.org URLs and they 
seem to work).

I guess this is something for Benoit to take up with the tools team 
if he thinks it is needed.

Regards,

Mike Heard

On Tue, 5 Jun 2012, Romascanu, Dan (Dan) wrote:
> Hi Mike, 
> 
> You probably missed the discussions and announcements. We moved all
> these pages to the OPS area wiki last year. I think that
> www.ops.ietf.org is no longer active. 
> 
> I do not know if it is possible for the addresses at www.ops.ietf.org to
> become an alias for the wiki pages. If not maybe we can issue an errata
> to RFC 4181. Would this be an acceptable use of an errata? 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: C. M. Heard [mailto:heard@pobox.com]
> > Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 8:28 PM
> > To: Benoit Claise; Ron Bonica; ops-ads@tools.ietf.org
> > Cc: Romascanu, Dan (Dan); Bert Wijnen (IETF)
> > Subject: URLs for MIB boilerplate web pages no longer work
> > 
> > OPS ADs -
> > 
> > It seems that all the links in RFC 4181 that point to
> > www.ops.ietf.org are now broken.  That includes stuff like the MIB
> > boilerplate, the security section template, and numerous other
> > things that at one time at least were essential to preparing a MIB
> > document.  Has this stuff moved somewhere that has not been
> > documented, or has it just disappeared?  I googled for it but came
> > up empty.
> > 
> > FWIW, I think the ops.ietf.org and www.ops.ietf.org pages were
> > actually hosted at psg.com but these domains seem not to be valid
> > anymore.  Maybe it would be a good idea to recover the data from
> > psg.com (if it can be found) and get it rehosted by the IETF
> > secretariat at the same URLs as in RFC 4181.
> > 
> > I've copied Dan Romascanu and Bert Wijnen since they were previously
> > the ADs responsible for this stuff and know the history a lot better
> > than I do.
> > 
> > Sorry if this is a false alarm.
> > 
> > Thanks and regards
> > 
> > Mike Heard
> > Editor of RFC 4181
>
--------------080607080803060505010509-- From henrik@levkowetz.com Tue Jun 5 07:02:59 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89DBF21F86D6 for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 07:02:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.499 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.499 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.100, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PVZ3gIdRRKkf for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 07:02:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from grenache.tools.ietf.org (unknown [IPv6:2a01:3f0:1:2:225:90ff:fe34:720e]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48A7B21F86AF for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 07:02:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brunello.netnod.se ([77.72.226.95]:62217) by grenache.tools.ietf.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1SbuLM-0005eu-2P; Tue, 05 Jun 2012 16:02:44 +0200 Message-ID: <4FCE1183.9060009@levkowetz.com> Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2012 16:02:43 +0200 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:10.0.4) Gecko/20120421 Thunderbird/10.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Benoit Claise References: <4FCE094C.4010704@cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <4FCE094C.4010704@cisco.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 77.72.226.95 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: bclaise@cisco.com, tools-discuss@ietf.org, rbonica@juniper.net, heard@pobox.com, glen@amsl.com, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Mon, 26 Dec 2011 16:24:06 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on grenache.tools.ietf.org) Cc: "C. M. Heard" , Ron Bonica , Tools Team Discussion , Glen Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Fwd: RE: URLs for MIB boilerplate web pages no longer work X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2012 14:02:59 -0000 Adding Glen to the Cc: list. I'd suggest setting up a virtual host for www.ops.ietf.org on the same server as www.ietf.org, and setting up the needed DNS records to point to it. Then set up apache for that host to do http redirect to the appropriate pages on tools.ietf.org. Best regards, Henrik On 2012-06-05 15:27 Benoit Claise said: > Hi, > > What should be done to have redirects from the no longer active > www.ops.ietf.org to http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/ops/trac/wiki/ ? > See the full discussion below. > Please let us know. > > Note: in the past, ops.ietf.org resolved to 147.28.0.62, which was the > psg.com, administered by Randy Bush. > > Regards, Benoit. > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: RE: URLs for MIB boilerplate web pages no longer work > Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 06:03:07 -0700 (PDT) > From: C. M. Heard > To: Romascanu, Dan (Dan) > CC: ops-ads@tools.ietf.org, Benoit Claise , Ron > Bonica , "Bert Wijnen (IETF)" > > > > Hi Dan, > > Thanks for your reply. Indeed I did miss the discussion; no > surprise there, since I just lurk now and then. > > In looking through RFC 4181 I see that there are just four > unique URLS that refer to www.ops.ietf.org: > > http://www.ops.ietf.org/mib-boilerplate.html > http://www.ops.ietf.org/mib-common-tcs.html > http://www.ops.ietf.org/mib-review-tools.html > http://www.ops.ietf.org/mib-security.html > > and I see that the replacements are (respectively): > > http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/ops/trac/wiki/mib-boilerplate > http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/ops/trac/wiki/mib-common-tcs > http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/ops/trac/wiki/mib-review-tools > http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/ops/trac/wiki/mib-security > > If an erratum is the best that can be done so be it but it would be > a lot less confusing for someone new to the game if the old URLs > could be made to redirect to the new ones. That has been done with > many of the other URLs in RFC 4181, for instance > > http://www.ietf.org/ID-Checklist.html > > now redirects to > > http://www.ietf.org/id-info/checklist.html > > (I did a quick check of the other non-ops.ietf.org URLs and they > seem to work). > > I guess this is something for Benoit to take up with the tools team > if he thinks it is needed. > > Regards, > > Mike Heard > > On Tue, 5 Jun 2012, Romascanu, Dan (Dan) wrote: >> Hi Mike, >> >> You probably missed the discussions and announcements. We moved all >> these pages to the OPS area wiki last year. I think that >> www.ops.ietf.org is no longer active. >> >> I do not know if it is possible for the addresses at www.ops.ietf.org to >> become an alias for the wiki pages. If not maybe we can issue an errata >> to RFC 4181. Would this be an acceptable use of an errata? >> >> Regards, >> >> Dan >> >> >> >> >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: C. M. Heard [mailto:heard@pobox.com] >> > Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 8:28 PM >> > To: Benoit Claise; Ron Bonica; ops-ads@tools.ietf.org >> > Cc: Romascanu, Dan (Dan); Bert Wijnen (IETF) >> > Subject: URLs for MIB boilerplate web pages no longer work >> > >> > OPS ADs - >> > >> > It seems that all the links in RFC 4181 that point to >> > www.ops.ietf.org are now broken. That includes stuff like the MIB >> > boilerplate, the security section template, and numerous other >> > things that at one time at least were essential to preparing a MIB >> > document. Has this stuff moved somewhere that has not been >> > documented, or has it just disappeared? I googled for it but came >> > up empty. >> > >> > FWIW, I think the ops.ietf.org and www.ops.ietf.org pages were >> > actually hosted at psg.com but these domains seem not to be valid >> > anymore. Maybe it would be a good idea to recover the data from >> > psg.com (if it can be found) and get it rehosted by the IETF >> > secretariat at the same URLs as in RFC 4181. >> > >> > I've copied Dan Romascanu and Bert Wijnen since they were previously >> > the ADs responsible for this stuff and know the history a lot better >> > than I do. >> > >> > Sorry if this is a false alarm. >> > >> > Thanks and regards >> > >> > Mike Heard >> > Editor of RFC 4181 >> > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Tools-discuss mailing list > Tools-discuss@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From glen@amsl.com Tue Jun 5 10:35:35 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E73B321F8744 for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 10:35:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RFT6yfTn5hRP for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 10:35:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.amsl.com (mail.amsl.com [IPv6:2001:1890:123a::1:14]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8156621F8735 for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 10:35:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by c8a.amsl.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E486E12C769; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 10:35:16 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 10:35:16 -0700 From: Glen To: Henrik Levkowetz Message-ID: <20120605173516.GA2090@amsl.com> References: <4FCE094C.4010704@cisco.com> <4FCE1183.9060009@levkowetz.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4FCE1183.9060009@levkowetz.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: Benoit Claise , Ron Bonica , "C. M. Heard" , Tools Team Discussion Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Fwd: RE: URLs for MIB boilerplate web pages no longer work X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2012 17:35:35 -0000 Done! Glen On Tue, Jun 05, 2012 at 04:02:43PM +0200, Henrik Levkowetz wrote: > Adding Glen to the Cc: list. > > I'd suggest setting up a virtual host for www.ops.ietf.org on the > same server as www.ietf.org, and setting up the needed DNS records > to point to it. Then set up apache for that host to do http redirect > to the appropriate pages on tools.ietf.org. > > > Best regards, > > Henrik > > > On 2012-06-05 15:27 Benoit Claise said: > > Hi, > > > > What should be done to have redirects from the no longer active > > www.ops.ietf.org to http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/ops/trac/wiki/ ? > > See the full discussion below. > > Please let us know. > > > > Note: in the past, ops.ietf.org resolved to 147.28.0.62, which was the > > psg.com, administered by Randy Bush. > > > > Regards, Benoit. > > > > -------- Original Message -------- > > Subject: RE: URLs for MIB boilerplate web pages no longer work > > Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 06:03:07 -0700 (PDT) > > From: C. M. Heard > > To: Romascanu, Dan (Dan) > > CC: ops-ads@tools.ietf.org, Benoit Claise , Ron > > Bonica , "Bert Wijnen (IETF)" > > > > > > > > Hi Dan, > > > > Thanks for your reply. Indeed I did miss the discussion; no > > surprise there, since I just lurk now and then. > > > > In looking through RFC 4181 I see that there are just four > > unique URLS that refer to www.ops.ietf.org: > > > > http://www.ops.ietf.org/mib-boilerplate.html > > http://www.ops.ietf.org/mib-common-tcs.html > > http://www.ops.ietf.org/mib-review-tools.html > > http://www.ops.ietf.org/mib-security.html > > > > and I see that the replacements are (respectively): > > > > http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/ops/trac/wiki/mib-boilerplate > > http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/ops/trac/wiki/mib-common-tcs > > http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/ops/trac/wiki/mib-review-tools > > http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/ops/trac/wiki/mib-security > > > > If an erratum is the best that can be done so be it but it would be > > a lot less confusing for someone new to the game if the old URLs > > could be made to redirect to the new ones. That has been done with > > many of the other URLs in RFC 4181, for instance > > > > http://www.ietf.org/ID-Checklist.html > > > > now redirects to > > > > http://www.ietf.org/id-info/checklist.html > > > > (I did a quick check of the other non-ops.ietf.org URLs and they > > seem to work). > > > > I guess this is something for Benoit to take up with the tools team > > if he thinks it is needed. > > > > Regards, > > > > Mike Heard > > > > On Tue, 5 Jun 2012, Romascanu, Dan (Dan) wrote: > >> Hi Mike, > >> > >> You probably missed the discussions and announcements. We moved all > >> these pages to the OPS area wiki last year. I think that > >> www.ops.ietf.org is no longer active. > >> > >> I do not know if it is possible for the addresses at www.ops.ietf.org to > >> become an alias for the wiki pages. If not maybe we can issue an errata > >> to RFC 4181. Would this be an acceptable use of an errata? > >> > >> Regards, > >> > >> Dan > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > -----Original Message----- > >> > From: C. M. Heard [mailto:heard@pobox.com] > >> > Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 8:28 PM > >> > To: Benoit Claise; Ron Bonica; ops-ads@tools.ietf.org > >> > Cc: Romascanu, Dan (Dan); Bert Wijnen (IETF) > >> > Subject: URLs for MIB boilerplate web pages no longer work > >> > > >> > OPS ADs - > >> > > >> > It seems that all the links in RFC 4181 that point to > >> > www.ops.ietf.org are now broken. That includes stuff like the MIB > >> > boilerplate, the security section template, and numerous other > >> > things that at one time at least were essential to preparing a MIB > >> > document. Has this stuff moved somewhere that has not been > >> > documented, or has it just disappeared? I googled for it but came > >> > up empty. > >> > > >> > FWIW, I think the ops.ietf.org and www.ops.ietf.org pages were > >> > actually hosted at psg.com but these domains seem not to be valid > >> > anymore. Maybe it would be a good idea to recover the data from > >> > psg.com (if it can be found) and get it rehosted by the IETF > >> > secretariat at the same URLs as in RFC 4181. > >> > > >> > I've copied Dan Romascanu and Bert Wijnen since they were previously > >> > the ADs responsible for this stuff and know the history a lot better > >> > than I do. > >> > > >> > Sorry if this is a false alarm. > >> > > >> > Thanks and regards > >> > > >> > Mike Heard > >> > Editor of RFC 4181 > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Tools-discuss mailing list > > Tools-discuss@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss > From bclaise@cisco.com Tue Jun 5 11:20:23 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69FB221F85F8 for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 11:20:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7+BD2HgWM7mN for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 11:20:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from av-tac-sj.cisco.com (av-tac-sj.cisco.com [171.68.227.119]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59C8A21F85E5 for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 11:20:22 -0700 (PDT) X-TACSUNS: Virus Scanned Received: from fire.cisco.com (localhost.cisco.com [127.0.0.1]) by av-tac-sj.cisco.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q55IKITB024006; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 11:20:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.21.65.128] (sjc-vpn3-384.cisco.com [10.21.65.128]) by fire.cisco.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q55IKG2x028580; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 11:20:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4FCE4DE0.2020006@cisco.com> Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2012 11:20:16 -0700 From: Benoit Claise User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120428 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Glen References: <4FCE094C.4010704@cisco.com> <4FCE1183.9060009@levkowetz.com> <20120605173516.GA2090@amsl.com> In-Reply-To: <20120605173516.GA2090@amsl.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "C. M. Heard" , Ron Bonica , Henrik Levkowetz , Tools Team Discussion Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Fwd: RE: URLs for MIB boilerplate web pages no longer work X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2012 18:20:23 -0000 Glen, Impressive. You're fast! Thanks and Regards, Benoit. > Done! > > Glen > > On Tue, Jun 05, 2012 at 04:02:43PM +0200, Henrik Levkowetz wrote: >> Adding Glen to the Cc: list. >> >> I'd suggest setting up a virtual host for www.ops.ietf.org on the >> same server as www.ietf.org, and setting up the needed DNS records >> to point to it. Then set up apache for that host to do http redirect >> to the appropriate pages on tools.ietf.org. >> >> >> Best regards, >> >> Henrik >> >> >> On 2012-06-05 15:27 Benoit Claise said: >>> Hi, >>> >>> What should be done to have redirects from the no longer active >>> www.ops.ietf.org to http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/ops/trac/wiki/ ? >>> See the full discussion below. >>> Please let us know. >>> >>> Note: in the past, ops.ietf.org resolved to 147.28.0.62, which was the >>> psg.com, administered by Randy Bush. >>> >>> Regards, Benoit. >>> >>> -------- Original Message -------- >>> Subject: RE: URLs for MIB boilerplate web pages no longer work >>> Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 06:03:07 -0700 (PDT) >>> From: C. M. Heard >>> To: Romascanu, Dan (Dan) >>> CC: ops-ads@tools.ietf.org, Benoit Claise, Ron >>> Bonica, "Bert Wijnen (IETF)" >>> >>> >>> >>> Hi Dan, >>> >>> Thanks for your reply. Indeed I did miss the discussion; no >>> surprise there, since I just lurk now and then. >>> >>> In looking through RFC 4181 I see that there are just four >>> unique URLS that refer to www.ops.ietf.org: >>> >>> http://www.ops.ietf.org/mib-boilerplate.html >>> http://www.ops.ietf.org/mib-common-tcs.html >>> http://www.ops.ietf.org/mib-review-tools.html >>> http://www.ops.ietf.org/mib-security.html >>> >>> and I see that the replacements are (respectively): >>> >>> http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/ops/trac/wiki/mib-boilerplate >>> http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/ops/trac/wiki/mib-common-tcs >>> http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/ops/trac/wiki/mib-review-tools >>> http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/ops/trac/wiki/mib-security >>> >>> If an erratum is the best that can be done so be it but it would be >>> a lot less confusing for someone new to the game if the old URLs >>> could be made to redirect to the new ones. That has been done with >>> many of the other URLs in RFC 4181, for instance >>> >>> http://www.ietf.org/ID-Checklist.html >>> >>> now redirects to >>> >>> http://www.ietf.org/id-info/checklist.html >>> >>> (I did a quick check of the other non-ops.ietf.org URLs and they >>> seem to work). >>> >>> I guess this is something for Benoit to take up with the tools team >>> if he thinks it is needed. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Mike Heard >>> >>> On Tue, 5 Jun 2012, Romascanu, Dan (Dan) wrote: >>>> Hi Mike, >>>> >>>> You probably missed the discussions and announcements. We moved all >>>> these pages to the OPS area wiki last year. I think that >>>> www.ops.ietf.org is no longer active. >>>> >>>> I do not know if it is possible for the addresses at www.ops.ietf.org to >>>> become an alias for the wiki pages. If not maybe we can issue an errata >>>> to RFC 4181. Would this be an acceptable use of an errata? >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> Dan >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> > -----Original Message----- >>>> > From: C. M. Heard [mailto:heard@pobox.com] >>>> > Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 8:28 PM >>>> > To: Benoit Claise; Ron Bonica; ops-ads@tools.ietf.org >>>> > Cc: Romascanu, Dan (Dan); Bert Wijnen (IETF) >>>> > Subject: URLs for MIB boilerplate web pages no longer work >>>> > >>>> > OPS ADs - >>>> > >>>> > It seems that all the links in RFC 4181 that point to >>>> > www.ops.ietf.org are now broken. That includes stuff like the MIB >>>> > boilerplate, the security section template, and numerous other >>>> > things that at one time at least were essential to preparing a MIB >>>> > document. Has this stuff moved somewhere that has not been >>>> > documented, or has it just disappeared? I googled for it but came >>>> > up empty. >>>> > >>>> > FWIW, I think the ops.ietf.org and www.ops.ietf.org pages were >>>> > actually hosted at psg.com but these domains seem not to be valid >>>> > anymore. Maybe it would be a good idea to recover the data from >>>> > psg.com (if it can be found) and get it rehosted by the IETF >>>> > secretariat at the same URLs as in RFC 4181. >>>> > >>>> > I've copied Dan Romascanu and Bert Wijnen since they were previously >>>> > the ADs responsible for this stuff and know the history a lot better >>>> > than I do. >>>> > >>>> > Sorry if this is a false alarm. >>>> > >>>> > Thanks and regards >>>> > >>>> > Mike Heard >>>> > Editor of RFC 4181 >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Tools-discuss mailing list >>> Tools-discuss@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss > From cabo@tzi.org Mon Jun 11 03:13:17 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E91221F8587 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 03:13:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -105.049 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-105.049 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, J_CHICKENPOX_63=0.6, J_CHICKENPOX_66=0.6, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nvPYxdXiJ54e for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 03:13:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from informatik.uni-bremen.de (mailhost.informatik.uni-bremen.de [IPv6:2001:638:708:30c9::12]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80A5321F8584 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 03:13:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at informatik.uni-bremen.de Received: from smtp-fb3.informatik.uni-bremen.de (smtp-fb3.informatik.uni-bremen.de [134.102.224.120]) by informatik.uni-bremen.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q5BAD70B025313 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 12:13:07 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.217.117] (p54899670.dip.t-dialin.net [84.137.150.112]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp-fb3.informatik.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C2632CEC; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 12:13:06 +0200 (CEST) From: Carsten Bormann Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_D0864076-DDCA-41D7-A69F-D1B18C0C6EAC"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 12:13:00 +0200 References: <068.77212de9fad66455e98c86f6c5974162@trac.tools.ietf.org> To: Tools Team Discussion Message-Id: <57F0BE5F-CB46-41EE-A877-7A4E79196836@tzi.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) Subject: [Tools-discuss] Strange format of ticket mails (Fwd: [core] #207: Add advice on default values for critical options) X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 10:13:17 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_D0864076-DDCA-41D7-A69F-D1B18C0C6EAC Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Something has changed in the layout of the ticket mails the tracker = sends to the WG mailing list, and not for the better. See below. Is that a templating language that is pasted literally instead of being = executed? Gr=FC=DFe, Carsten Begin forwarded message: > Resent-From: trac+core@grenache.tools.ietf.org > From: "core issue tracker" > Subject: Re: [core] #207: Add advice on default values for critical = options > Date: June 11, 2012 11:35:16 +0200 > To: draft-ietf-core-coap@tools.ietf.org, zach@sensinode.com > Cc: core@ietf.org > Reply-To: trac+core@grenache.tools.ietf.org >=20 > #207: Add advice on default values for critical options >=20 > #choose ticket.new > #when True > Klaus Hartke points out that the guidelines for registration of new > options could include a check for an essential property of any default > values for new critical options. >=20 > in 11.2, a change for the registration information could be: >=20 >=20 > o The default value, if any. >=20 > -> >=20 > o The default value, if any. For a critical option with a default > value, a discussion how the default value enables processing by > implementations not implementing the critical option (Section 5.4.3). >=20 > In 5.4.3, add at the end: >=20 > Where a critical option has a default value, this is chosen in such a = way > that the absence of the option in a message can be processed properly = both > by implementations unaware of the critical option and by = implementations > that interpret this absence as the presence of the default value for = the > option. >=20 > Some wordsmithing may be required. > #end > #otherwise > #if changes_body > Changes (by zach@=85): >=20 > * status: new =3D> closed > * resolution: =3D> fixed >=20 > #end > #if changes_descr > #if not changes_body and not change.comment and change.author > Description changed by zach@=85: > #end >=20 > -- > #end > #if change.comment >=20 > Comment: >=20 > Change made in r686. > #end > #end > #end >=20 > --=20 > -----------------------------+------------------------------------- > Reporter: hartke@=85 | Owner: draft-ietf-core-coap@=85 > Type: editorial | Status: closed > Priority: minor | Milestone: post-WGLC-1 > Component: coap | Version: > Severity: In WG Last Call | Resolution: fixed > Keywords: | > -----------------------------+------------------------------------- >=20 > Ticket URL: = > core >=20 > _______________________________________________ > core mailing list > core@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/core --Apple-Mail=_D0864076-DDCA-41D7-A69F-D1B18C0C6EAC Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; 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Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:10.0.4) Gecko/20120421 Thunderbird/10.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Carsten Bormann References: <068.77212de9fad66455e98c86f6c5974162@trac.tools.ietf.org> <57F0BE5F-CB46-41EE-A877-7A4E79196836@tzi.org> In-Reply-To: <57F0BE5F-CB46-41EE-A877-7A4E79196836@tzi.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigD602EE9153823C8344547DB7" X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 2a01:3f0:1:0:c9d7:1f5b:a6e5:e7ff X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: cabo@tzi.org, tools-discuss@ietf.org, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Mon, 26 Dec 2011 16:24:06 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on grenache.tools.ietf.org) Cc: Tools Team Discussion Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Strange format of ticket mails (Fwd: [core] #207: Add advice on default values for critical options) X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 12:44:10 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigD602EE9153823C8344547DB7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Carsten, The trac/wiki/svn server died Friday evening, so I've enabled a new one, but apparently not all the configuration changes had been duplicated as part of the syncronization from the previous trac/wiki/svn master. I'll take a look at this as soon as I can. Sorry for the trouble. Best regards, Henrik On 2012-06-11 12:13 Carsten Bormann said: > Something has changed in the layout of the ticket mails the tracker sen= ds to the WG mailing list, and not for the better. > See below. > Is that a templating language that is pasted literally instead of being= executed? >=20 > Gr=FC=DFe, Carsten >=20 >=20 > Begin forwarded message: >=20 >> Resent-From: trac+core@grenache.tools.ietf.org >> From: "core issue tracker" >> Subject: Re: [core] #207: Add advice on default values for critical op= tions >> Date: June 11, 2012 11:35:16 +0200 >> To: draft-ietf-core-coap@tools.ietf.org, zach@sensinode.com >> Cc: core@ietf.org >> Reply-To: trac+core@grenache.tools.ietf.org >> >> #207: Add advice on default values for critical options >> >> #choose ticket.new >> #when True >> Klaus Hartke points out that the guidelines for registration of new >> options could include a check for an essential property of any default= >> values for new critical options. >> >> in 11.2, a change for the registration information could be: >> >> >> o The default value, if any. >> >> -> >> >> o The default value, if any. For a critical option with a default= >> value, a discussion how the default value enables processing by >> implementations not implementing the critical option (Section 5.4.3). >> >> In 5.4.3, add at the end: >> >> Where a critical option has a default value, this is chosen in such a = way >> that the absence of the option in a message can be processed properly = both >> by implementations unaware of the critical option and by implementatio= ns >> that interpret this absence as the presence of the default value for t= he >> option. >> >> Some wordsmithing may be required. >> #end >> #otherwise >> #if changes_body >> Changes (by zach@=85): >> >> * status: new =3D> closed >> * resolution: =3D> fixed >> >> #end >> #if changes_descr >> #if not changes_body and not change.comment and change.author >> Description changed by zach@=85: >> #end >> >> -- >> #end >> #if change.comment >> >> Comment: >> >> Change made in r686. >> #end >> #end >> #end >> >> --=20 >> -----------------------------+------------------------------------- >> Reporter: hartke@=85 | Owner: draft-ietf-core-coap@=85= >> Type: editorial | Status: closed >> Priority: minor | Milestone: post-WGLC-1 >> Component: coap | Version: >> Severity: In WG Last Call | Resolution: fixed >> Keywords: | >> -----------------------------+------------------------------------- >> >> Ticket URL: >> core >> >> _______________________________________________ >> core mailing list >> core@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/core >=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Tools-discuss mailing list > Tools-discuss@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss --------------enigD602EE9153823C8344547DB7 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iEYEARECAAYFAk/V6AcACgkQeVhrtTJkXCP+xwCgqNakmHtaStwsFmRoF7dmvpdx x9QAn07p5Ch4sEIzcmeAaP73Fn0jYlxt =6Qhr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigD602EE9153823C8344547DB7-- From sm@resistor.net Tue Jun 12 14:11:51 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C736911E8073 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 14:11:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.493 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.493 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.106, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Jd8EG7Jd+NSp for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 14:11:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx.ipv6.elandsys.com (mx.ipv6.elandsys.com [IPv6:2001:470:f329:1::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 504E721F86FA for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 14:11:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from SUBMAN.resistor.net (IDENT:sm@localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by mx.elandsys.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q5CLBfi3022678 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 14:11:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=opendkim.org; s=mail2010; t=1339535505; i=@resistor.net; bh=H/Ek/WjQSZVv1htNfJ+x0g/dfAAt7lNSsDHuyikYxWg=; h=Date:To:From:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Cc; b=YMiHprkUBxJaDhi3mHbnTBJeLBGqPRXrwUpViDg4J3VQzYVXU/mwTyaOYx7wGwGZr lhv6tMWStDayQrCRe02VTKPMaApNp9+g6YxRzHttk+2v80bX6384nzO2dermZ4I2zk 7NJFLJdR0yj8RWMtGd/SSOVtGIKtuOm9/CK0vW4M= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=resistor.net; s=mail; t=1339535505; i=@resistor.net; bh=H/Ek/WjQSZVv1htNfJ+x0g/dfAAt7lNSsDHuyikYxWg=; h=Date:To:From:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Cc; b=Fsm8YVZYGxCno/beoFWK+bModHiRu4piHEaI9WIVNe2HFxZ/Mm1/Hs6X8AkI5+5br JAN8RCtSfEwDnUp0L8jOTSaHMIlv28XuFCg3cBkOPXgPoZb1RoHIw5mp2rhBqlIasy MEsTVqm9AdOkAyr3lD/p+TCTsOdX9lvyZqU9zKSo= Message-Id: <6.2.5.6.2.20120612140834.0a683a08@resistor.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.5.6 Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 14:11:38 -0700 To: tools-discuss@ietf.org From: SM In-Reply-To: <20120612210350.6991.33790.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> References: <20120612210350.6991.33790.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: [Tools-discuss] submission.filename in I-D Action X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 21:11:51 -0000 Hello, At 14:03 12-06-2012, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote: >There's also a htmlized version available at: >http://tools.ietf.org/html/submission.filename }}-11 submission.filename in I-D Action message was not filled in correctly. The version number is correct. Regards, -sm From tony@att.com Tue Jun 12 16:47:12 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49EFF11E8098 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 16:47:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id L5tj+ZfYNFqi for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 16:47:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nbfkord-smmo07.seg.att.com (nbfkord-smmo07.seg.att.com [209.65.160.93]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A1D811E8080 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 16:47:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unknown [144.160.20.145] (EHLO mlpd192.enaf.sfdc.sbc.com) by nbfkord-smmo07.seg.att.com(mxl_mta-6.11.0-10) over TLS secured channel with ESMTP id ef4d7df4.0.166611.00-464.471022.nbfkord-smmo07.seg.att.com (envelope-from ); Tue, 12 Jun 2012 23:47:11 +0000 (UTC) X-MXL-Hash: 4fd7d4ff1a6c527f-3afb6ce65f972ac0e7906215600a64c72d8abdc3 Received: from enaf.sfdc.sbc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mlpd192.enaf.sfdc.sbc.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q5CNlAFJ013910 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 19:47:10 -0400 Received: from sflint01.pst.cso.att.com (sflint01.pst.cso.att.com [144.154.234.228]) by mlpd192.enaf.sfdc.sbc.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q5CNl7Og013887 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 19:47:08 -0400 Received: from alpd052.aldc.att.com (alpd052.aldc.att.com [130.8.42.31]) by sflint01.pst.cso.att.com (RSA Interceptor) for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 19:46:47 -0400 Received: from aldc.att.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by alpd052.aldc.att.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q5CNklta019936 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 19:46:47 -0400 Received: from mailgw1.maillennium.att.com (dns.maillennium.att.com [135.25.114.99]) by alpd052.aldc.att.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q5CNkgKX019768 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 19:46:43 -0400 Received: from [135.70.185.60] (vpn-135-70-185-60.vpn.mwst.att.com[135.70.185.60]) by maillennium.att.com (mailgw1) with ESMTP id <20120612234251gw10060lbie> (Authid: tony); Tue, 12 Jun 2012 23:42:51 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [135.70.185.60] Message-ID: <4FD7D4E1.6050501@att.com> Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 19:46:41 -0400 From: Tony Hansen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120428 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tools Team Discussion References: <20120612225807.27661.52237.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: <20120612225807.27661.52237.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-RSA-Inspected: yes X-RSA-Classifications: public X-Spam: [F=0.2000000000; CM=0.500; S=0.200(2010122901)] X-MAIL-FROM: X-SOURCE-IP: [144.160.20.145] X-AnalysisOut: [v=1.0 c=1 a=KRRL0A2O2JwA:10 a=4JAii899aesA:10 a=_IQYlH99Pm] X-AnalysisOut: [8A:10 a=ofMgfj31e3cA:10 a=BLceEmwcHowA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:1] X-AnalysisOut: [0 a=ZRNLZ4dFUbCvG8UMqPvVAA==:17 a=48vgC7mUAAAA:8 a=MNopSnG] X-AnalysisOut: [bLwoOYzpYBvYA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=lZB815dzVvQA:10] Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] I-D Action: draft-hoffman-tao-as-web-page-01.txt X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 23:47:12 -0000 Kudos on the changes to the I-D announce email. However, note the item below on "There's also a htmlized version" with the bad link. Tony Hansen On 6/12/2012 6:58 PM, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote: > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. > ... > > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-hoffman-tao-as-web-page > > There's also a htmlized version available at: > http://tools.ietf.org/html/submission.filename }}-01 > > A diff from previous version is available at: > http://tools.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-hoffman-tao-as-web-page-01 > > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > > _______________________________________________ > ... From henrik@levkowetz.com Wed Jun 13 06:03:54 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C563D21F85D1 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 06:03:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wOURGKKBIO8Y for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 06:03:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from grenache.tools.ietf.org (unknown [IPv6:2a01:3f0:1:2:225:90ff:fe34:720e]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0257B21F85B8 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 06:03:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [2a01:3f0:1:0:2411:b86b:b41a:cfe3] (port=61475 helo=brunello.netnod.se) by grenache.tools.ietf.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1SenEc-0001D3-L0; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 15:03:42 +0200 Message-ID: <4FD88FAE.9020906@levkowetz.com> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 15:03:42 +0200 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:10.0.5) Gecko/20120601 Thunderbird/10.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tony Hansen References: <20120612225807.27661.52237.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <4FD7D4E1.6050501@att.com> In-Reply-To: <4FD7D4E1.6050501@att.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 2a01:3f0:1:0:2411:b86b:b41a:cfe3 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: tony@att.com, tools-discuss@ietf.org, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Mon, 26 Dec 2011 16:24:06 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on grenache.tools.ietf.org) Cc: Tools Team Discussion Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] I-D Action: draft-hoffman-tao-as-web-page-01.txt X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 13:03:54 -0000 Hi Tony, On 2012-06-13 01:46 Tony Hansen said: > Kudos on the changes to the I-D announce email. > > However, note the item below on "There's also a htmlized version" with > the bad link. Thats a funny one. I've fixed the template :-) Best regards, Henrik > Tony Hansen > > On 6/12/2012 6:58 PM, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote: >> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. >> ... >> >> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-hoffman-tao-as-web-page >> >> There's also a htmlized version available at: >> http://tools.ietf.org/html/submission.filename }}-01 >> >> A diff from previous version is available at: >> http://tools.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-hoffman-tao-as-web-page-01 >> >> >> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: >> ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ... > _______________________________________________ > Tools-discuss mailing list > Tools-discuss@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss > From pusateri@bangj.com Wed Jun 13 08:56:59 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66D1621F8525 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 08:56:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.11 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.11 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_05=-1.11] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PnwtH0B7mVm2 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 08:56:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jj.bangj.com (jj.bangj.com [198.86.87.199]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EC9121F851B for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 08:56:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from event-10-1-29-51.venue.apple.com (unknown [204.79.190.35]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by jj.bangj.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 505E3D3A for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 11:56:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Tom Pusateri Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <43DA3239-FF5F-496A-93BD-7BA228F33067@bangj.com> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 08:56:47 -0700 To: Tools Team Discussion Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.0 \(1474\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1474) Subject: [Tools-discuss] audio/slide IETF proceedings X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 15:56:59 -0000 I have been experimenting with augmenting the audio recordings with = slide change information to improve the experience of listening to the = sessions after the IETF is over. The guys at Verilan have been great so = far and I'm excited about the possibilities. Collecting the real-time slide change information is the more = challenging part and I have a few ideas and wanted to get some feedback = from anyone with an interest in this. The goal is to make collecting this information as automated as = possible. Aside from a required minutes taker and jabber scribe, we = don't need yet another person required to be in the meeting to track = slide changes. I've been able to write a small application on OSX that detects slide = changes in Keynote and I believe the same approach will work for = Powerpoint on the mac. This application would just need to be run on the = presenters machine at the time when the slides are being shown. As it = detects slide changes, I plan on having it do several things. 1. perform an HTTP POST with the timestamp, filename, and slide number = to an IETF web service 2. send a scoped IP multicast notification message (in IPv4 and IPv6 of = course) to announce the slide change 3. record locally the change so it can be resubmitted later if there's a = network error Here's the rub. Not everyone uses a mac and I don't know of an = equivalent on Windows. If anyone is a Windows scripting expert and would = like to work with me on the windows side, I would very much appreciate = it. I am hoping we can get the software used by Verilan that records the = audio to listen to the slide change announcements and save them as meta = data in the recording. The current MP3 format won't allow this but the = Enhanced AAC format used by many podcasts these days will. If that = doesn't work out, I am at least hopeful we can put a timestamp in the = audio files as meta data for synchronizing and later post processing = into enhanced AAC files with slide change info. It is even possible to = export the slides and include the slide images in the AAC files. One other enhancement that we will need is to know the original file = names of the slides submitted to the IETF archive. Currently, they are = numbered by the working group name and the order of upload. In order to = synchronize the slide change announcements with the audio in the = proceedings, we will need to know the original file names of the slides. = Maybe the upload procedure can be modified to retain the original file = names? I'd love to get some feedback on whether people think it will be = possible to get presenters to: 1. use a mac for the slides 2. run an open source agent on the their presentation machine to collect = slide changes And if the IETF web services are willing to collect HTTP post data of = slide changes and original file names? Thanks, Tom From arusso@amsl.com Wed Jun 13 10:36:48 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BD9621F8679; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 10:36:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id SPjJ8GBh3sw6; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 10:36:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.amsl.com (mail.amsl.com [IPv6:2001:1890:123a::1:14]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D57AD21F8675; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 10:36:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by c8a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A9F812C7AE; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 10:36:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from c8a.amsl.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (c8a.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MA9zcUhvx8E5; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 10:36:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rfc2.home (pool-74-96-66-108.washdc.fios.verizon.net [74.96.66.108]) by c8a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A602912C7AB; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 10:36:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Alice Russo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 13:36:45 -0400 Message-Id: To: Tools Team Discussion Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Cc: IETF EDU Team Subject: [Tools-discuss] seeking input for the "Introduction to IETF Tools" tutorial X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 17:36:48 -0000 Tools users, I'm seeking your input for the "Introduction to IETF Tools" tutorial at = IETF 84 (July 29). Please reply to me directly, rather than to the list. = Specifically: * What's your favorite IETF-related tool? * Which tool would you say is "great for newbies" or "useful but not = well-known"? Using 'tool' in a broad sense - the tutorial will focus on = http://tools.ietf.org and http://datatracker.ietf.org. More information = is below. Thanks, Alice =46rom http://www.ietf.org/meeting/84/tutorials/intro-to-ietf-tools.html > * Document search, display and print tools >=20 > This covers tools for retrieval of current and old documents based > on part of the filename, or on content; various available ways to > view the documents (plain text, html, pdf, diffs), print them > nicely, and get more information about their status etc. >=20 >=20 > * Draft preparation tools >=20 > A brief mention of xml2rfc but more about idnits, diff tools, = spell- > checking, and maybe XML validation. >=20 >=20 > * Working group tools >=20 > Working group status pages and individual document status pages, > wikis, issue trackers, collected session agendas and session = minutes > marked up with document and materials links. Email aliases for > WG chairs and ADs. >=20 >=20 > * IETF meeting related tools >=20 > Meeting agenda marked up with links to: htmlized session agendas, > jabber rooms, meeting materials, room location etc. Individually > customised extracts from the agenda converted to downloadable and > subscribable calendar files. >=20 >=20 > (And just maybe, if there is time at the end a little bit about: >=20 > * Tool builder tools >=20 > Meta-information about drafts and working groups which is = available > to prospective tool builders - where to find it, what kind of > information is available, and in which formats. ) >=20 From sm@resistor.net Wed Jun 13 10:39:15 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E950A21F851A for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 10:39:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.506 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.506 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.093, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Zvowfd9s8dKk for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 10:39:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx.ipv6.elandsys.com (mx.ipv6.elandsys.com [IPv6:2001:470:f329:1::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64DAD21F853E for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 10:39:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from SUBMAN.resistor.net (IDENT:sm@localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by mx.elandsys.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q5DHd4vS024276 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 10:39:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=opendkim.org; s=mail2010; t=1339609153; i=@resistor.net; bh=XBc8Hy/SpeLunnvNwkFv5SihWQCXoECB6MXHibt0e4c=; h=Date:To:From:Subject:Cc; b=j8UpQezW8FhYIjf1gE6IreJjsTE3eSc/5W29bGw1JzUdayV62fv8IJ8g34BCLX98T +DZO+x0Oa+kv4826nzSblzG0Vh70F+qVZdBhplK4lWFml8B8UkrgAj2R8eEHv8K5Nv 0P/GZvpOIfJ4YCUFLZLfgUAFGJfGvMbFQq7BZ5g0= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=resistor.net; s=mail; t=1339609153; i=@resistor.net; bh=XBc8Hy/SpeLunnvNwkFv5SihWQCXoECB6MXHibt0e4c=; h=Date:To:From:Subject:Cc; b=EHUWeXuKwkN42aC+4J5mg0jBhBNvTUOuynNdSUjXY0stlKRaiBbSBtO2FtOFapSH6 lwJZ+8h8q8eZW8/++YpWnNMe2jDLzRuS17EcFetOCtf65vsxfKAYcHw864TA3yHWat paXDBXe1IiRTSlsn71PaEGm9tc2dA5peESU7rzt8= Message-Id: <6.2.5.6.2.20120613102851.09c90790@elandnews.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.5.6 Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 10:33:27 -0700 To: tools-discuss@ietf.org From: SM Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: [Tools-discuss] WG Status Pages X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 17:39:16 -0000 Hello, The Weirds Status Pages incorrectly shows the WG as concluded. Regards, -sm From bclaise@cisco.com Wed Jun 13 10:51:19 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABC7D11E8087 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 10:51:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.958 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.958 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.774, BAYES_40=-0.185, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Ndq+Re+ipM5h for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 10:51:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from av-tac-sj.cisco.com (av-tac-sj.cisco.com [171.68.227.119]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35A6C21F8567 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 10:51:19 -0700 (PDT) X-TACSUNS: Virus Scanned Received: from fire.cisco.com (localhost.cisco.com [127.0.0.1]) by av-tac-sj.cisco.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q5DHpIdg022150 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 10:51:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.21.123.16] (sjc-vpn6-784.cisco.com [10.21.123.16]) by fire.cisco.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q5DHpIBF008712 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 10:51:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4FD8D316.4090202@cisco.com> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 10:51:18 -0700 From: Benoit Claise User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120428 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tools Team Discussion Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------090802040007050100030502" Subject: [Tools-discuss] http://www.ietf.org/tools/rfcdiff/rfcdiff.pyht issue X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 17:51:19 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------090802040007050100030502 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi there, I've been having an issue with http://www.ietf.org/tools/rfcdiff/rfcdiff.pyht for the last 2 hours. The connection was reset The connection to the server was reset while the page was loading. The site could be temporarily unavailable or too busy. Try again in a few moments. If you are unable to load any pages, check your computer's network connection. If your computer or network is protected by a firewall or proxy, make sure that Firefox is permitted to access the Web. I'm sitting in a hotel room, and I didn't get the tool to work, so maybe it's just me... If this is the case, forget about this ... Regards, Benoit. --------------090802040007050100030502 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi there,

I've been having an issue with http://www.ietf.org/tools/rfcdiff/rfcdiff.pyht for the last 2 hours.
The connection was reset
     
           
          The connection to the server was reset while the page was loading. 
       

  The site could be temporarily unavailable or too busy. Try again in a few
    moments.
  If you are unable to load any pages, check your computer's network
    connection.
  If your computer or network is protected by a firewall or proxy, make sure
    that Firefox is permitted to access the Web.
I'm sitting in a hotel room, and I didn't get the tool to work, so maybe it's just me...
If this is the case, forget about this ...

Regards,  Benoit.
--------------090802040007050100030502-- From paul.hoffman@vpnc.org Wed Jun 13 11:02:24 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85F6621F8445 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 11:02:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tKM09AUqiO76 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 11:02:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hoffman.proper.com (IPv6.Hoffman.Proper.COM [IPv6:2605:8e00:100:41::81]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D63EA21F8526 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 11:02:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.20.30.101] (50-1-50-97.dsl.dynamic.fusionbroadband.com [50.1.50.97] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by hoffman.proper.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q5DI256e046546 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Wed, 13 Jun 2012 11:02:06 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from paul.hoffman@vpnc.org) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 From: Paul Hoffman In-Reply-To: <4FD8D316.4090202@cisco.com> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 11:02:05 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <4300824F-36EF-4294-99D6-355336C19260@vpnc.org> References: <4FD8D316.4090202@cisco.com> To: Benoit Claise X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) Cc: Tools Team Discussion Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] http://www.ietf.org/tools/rfcdiff/rfcdiff.pyht issue X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 18:02:24 -0000 On Jun 13, 2012, at 10:51 AM, Benoit Claise wrote: > Hi there, >=20 > I've been having an issue with = http://www.ietf.org/tools/rfcdiff/rfcdiff.pyht for the last 2 hours. > The connection was reset > =20 > =20 > The connection to the server was reset while the page was = loading. =20 > =20 >=20 > The site could be temporarily unavailable or too busy. Try again in = a few > moments. > If you are unable to load any pages, check your computer's network > connection. > If your computer or network is protected by a firewall or proxy, = make sure > that Firefox is permitted to access the Web. > I'm sitting in a hotel room, and I didn't get the tool to work, so = maybe it's just me... > If this is the case, forget about this ... Works for me just now.= From bclaise@cisco.com Thu Jun 14 14:59:18 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 479C721F84B6 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 14:59:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.181 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.181 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.418, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XNenav1Za1ce for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 14:59:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from av-tac-sj.cisco.com (av-tac-sj.cisco.com [171.68.227.119]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAC6A21F84A2 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 14:59:17 -0700 (PDT) X-TACSUNS: Virus Scanned Received: from fire.cisco.com (localhost.cisco.com [127.0.0.1]) by av-tac-sj.cisco.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q5ELxHrO027785; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 14:59:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.21.125.83] (sjc-vpn6-1363.cisco.com [10.21.125.83]) by fire.cisco.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q5ELxG11028180; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 14:59:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4FDA5EB4.9050207@cisco.com> Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 14:59:16 -0700 From: Benoit Claise User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120428 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Hoffman References: <4FD8D316.4090202@cisco.com> <4300824F-36EF-4294-99D6-355336C19260@vpnc.org> In-Reply-To: <4300824F-36EF-4294-99D6-355336C19260@vpnc.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: me , Tools Team Discussion Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] http://www.ietf.org/tools/rfcdiff/rfcdiff.pyht issue X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 21:59:18 -0000 Hi Paul, This is weird. I can do: http://tools.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-ipfix-configuration-model-11.txt I can do: http://www.ietf.org/tools/rfcdiff/rfcdiff.pyht?url1=http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-ipfix-configuration-model-09.txt&url2=http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-ipfix-configuration-model-10.txt However, it seems that I have problem with pushing local .txt files. I'm now on a different network, so I can't really blame my previous hotel network. Let me troubleshoot from home next week. Regards, Benoit. > On Jun 13, 2012, at 10:51 AM, Benoit Claise wrote: > >> Hi there, >> >> I've been having an issue with http://www.ietf.org/tools/rfcdiff/rfcdiff.pyht for the last 2 hours. >> The connection was reset >> >> >> The connection to the server was reset while the page was loading. >> >> >> The site could be temporarily unavailable or too busy. Try again in a few >> moments. >> If you are unable to load any pages, check your computer's network >> connection. >> If your computer or network is protected by a firewall or proxy, make sure >> that Firefox is permitted to access the Web. >> I'm sitting in a hotel room, and I didn't get the tool to work, so maybe it's just me... >> If this is the case, forget about this ... > Works for me just now. > > From paul.hoffman@vpnc.org Mon Jun 18 08:00:35 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B667A21F86DB for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2012 08:00:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mcQoirx8D8zN for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2012 08:00:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hoffman.proper.com (IPv6.Hoffman.Proper.COM [IPv6:2605:8e00:100:41::81]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE48721F86DD for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2012 08:00:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.20.30.101] (50-1-50-97.dsl.dynamic.fusionbroadband.com [50.1.50.97] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by hoffman.proper.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q5IF0TvH027344 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 18 Jun 2012 08:00:30 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from paul.hoffman@vpnc.org) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 From: Paul Hoffman In-Reply-To: <4FDE7202.3080205@cisco.com> Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 08:00:28 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <6E1D927D-4C23-4ECB-874A-F2AA0D208532@vpnc.org> References: <4FD8D316.4090202@cisco.com> <4300824F-36EF-4294-99D6-355336C19260@vpnc.org> <4FDA5EB4.9050207@cisco.com> <4FDE7202.3080205@cisco.com> To: Benoit Claise X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) Cc: Tools Team Discussion Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] http://www.ietf.org/tools/rfcdiff/rfcdiff.pyht issue X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 15:00:36 -0000 Works for me with those two files. Which options are you using on the RFCdiff page? --Paul Hoffman From bclaise@cisco.com Mon Jun 18 09:15:05 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1B7721F86B1 for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2012 09:15:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.227 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.227 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.371, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id l1k9SOiSgoss for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2012 09:15:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from av-tac-bru.cisco.com (weird-brew.cisco.com [144.254.15.118]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96E1C21F8692 for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2012 09:15:04 -0700 (PDT) X-TACSUNS: Virus Scanned Received: from strange-brew.cisco.com (localhost.cisco.com [127.0.0.1]) by av-tac-bru.cisco.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q5IG8Wu8024491; Mon, 18 Jun 2012 18:08:32 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.60.67.84] (ams-bclaise-8913.cisco.com [10.60.67.84]) by strange-brew.cisco.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q5IG8Vtb009759; Mon, 18 Jun 2012 18:08:32 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4FDF527F.2030409@cisco.com> Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 18:08:31 +0200 From: Benoit Claise User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120428 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Hoffman References: <4FD8D316.4090202@cisco.com> <4300824F-36EF-4294-99D6-355336C19260@vpnc.org> <4FDA5EB4.9050207@cisco.com> <4FDE7202.3080205@cisco.com> <6E1D927D-4C23-4ECB-874A-F2AA0D208532@vpnc.org> In-Reply-To: <6E1D927D-4C23-4ECB-874A-F2AA0D208532@vpnc.org> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------090800060202050408020202" Cc: Tools Team Discussion Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] http://www.ietf.org/tools/rfcdiff/rfcdiff.pyht issue X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 16:15:06 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------090800060202050408020202 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 18/06/2012 17:00, Paul Hoffman wrote: > Works for me with those two files. > > Which options are you using on the RFCdiff page? all defaults! side-by-side no column width color of old text: red color of new text: green larger diff text: unchecked Wit the large diff text checked, I have the same error message: The connection was reset The connection to the server was reset while the page was loading. The site could be temporarily unavailable or too busy. Try again in a few moments. If you are unable to load any pages, check your computer's network connection. If your computer or network is protected by a firewall or proxy, make sure that Firefox is permitted to access the Web. > > --Paul Hoffman > > --------------090800060202050408020202 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 18/06/2012 17:00, Paul Hoffman wrote: 
Works for me with those two files.

Which options are you using on the RFCdiff page?
all defaults!
    side-by-side
    no column width
    color of old text: red
    color of new text: green
    larger diff text: unchecked


Wit the large diff text checked, I have the same error message:
            The connection was reset
    
          The connection to the server was reset while the page was loading.

  The site could be temporarily unavailable or too busy. Try again in a few
    moments.
  If you are unable to load any pages, check your computer's network
    connection.
  If your computer or network is protected by a firewall or proxy, make sure
    that Firefox is permitted to access the Web.


--Paul Hoffman

--------------090800060202050408020202-- From paul.hoffman@vpnc.org Mon Jun 18 09:17:30 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2F2221F8714 for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2012 09:17:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id r6w4OrCNjU9L for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2012 09:17:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hoffman.proper.com (IPv6.Hoffman.Proper.COM [IPv6:2605:8e00:100:41::81]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5CDF21F8713 for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2012 09:17:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.20.30.101] (50-1-50-97.dsl.dynamic.fusionbroadband.com [50.1.50.97] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by hoffman.proper.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q5IGHQ0Q032822 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 18 Jun 2012 09:17:27 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from paul.hoffman@vpnc.org) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 From: Paul Hoffman In-Reply-To: <4FDF527F.2030409@cisco.com> Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 09:17:26 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <82CB836A-D896-4B4A-B60C-E050C8329543@vpnc.org> References: <4FD8D316.4090202@cisco.com> <4300824F-36EF-4294-99D6-355336C19260@vpnc.org> <4FDA5EB4.9050207@cisco.com> <4FDE7202.3080205@cisco.com> <6E1D927D-4C23-4ECB-874A-F2AA0D208532@vpnc.org> <4FDF527F.2030409@cisco.com> To: Benoit Claise X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) Cc: Tools Team Discussion Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] http://www.ietf.org/tools/rfcdiff/rfcdiff.pyht issue X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 16:17:31 -0000 I suspect it is your browser or a middlebox. I just tried this with your = files with both Firefox and Chrome, and had no problem. --Paul Hoffman= From bclaise@cisco.com Mon Jun 18 09:23:00 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94D7621F86D5 for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2012 09:23:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.32 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.32 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.279, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0KOOhjk+xQj1 for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2012 09:23:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from av-tac-bru.cisco.com (weird-brew.cisco.com [144.254.15.118]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5E0121F8602 for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2012 09:22:59 -0700 (PDT) X-TACSUNS: Virus Scanned Received: from strange-brew.cisco.com (localhost.cisco.com [127.0.0.1]) by av-tac-bru.cisco.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q5IGMuX2025877; Mon, 18 Jun 2012 18:22:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.60.67.84] (ams-bclaise-8913.cisco.com [10.60.67.84]) by strange-brew.cisco.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q5IGMu2g020091; Mon, 18 Jun 2012 18:22:56 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4FDF55DF.2000000@cisco.com> Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 18:22:55 +0200 From: Benoit Claise User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120428 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Hoffman References: <4FD8D316.4090202@cisco.com> <4300824F-36EF-4294-99D6-355336C19260@vpnc.org> <4FDA5EB4.9050207@cisco.com> <4FDE7202.3080205@cisco.com> <6E1D927D-4C23-4ECB-874A-F2AA0D208532@vpnc.org> <4FDF527F.2030409@cisco.com> <82CB836A-D896-4B4A-B60C-E050C8329543@vpnc.org> In-Reply-To: <82CB836A-D896-4B4A-B60C-E050C8329543@vpnc.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Tools Team Discussion Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] http://www.ietf.org/tools/rfcdiff/rfcdiff.pyht issue X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 16:23:00 -0000 Thanks. Let me investigate. B. > I suspect it is your browser or a middlebox. I just tried this with your files with both Firefox and Chrome, and had no problem. > > --Paul Hoffman > > From sm@resistor.net Mon Jun 18 14:04:13 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E9F611E80CD for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2012 14:04:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.546 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.546 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.053, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LueJYD8e663T for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2012 14:04:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx.ipv6.elandsys.com (mx.ipv6.elandsys.com [IPv6:2001:470:f329:1::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 461CE11E80CA for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2012 14:04:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from SUBMAN.resistor.net (IDENT:sm@localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by mx.elandsys.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q5IL3xoI004499; Mon, 18 Jun 2012 14:04:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=opendkim.org; s=mail2010; t=1340053447; i=@resistor.net; bh=5dNgNi9G5vpelkLHfMli9s6AjSuAgwyaoZjvSjy3Dfs=; h=Date:To:From:Subject:Cc:In-Reply-To:References; b=VAdmgiIYlop6Z2Ed2tqz/Gv5yiyVqbPhFb7GHozJxXlRsH0vOpEw7sNabaMcLjf7v 5cLaS+p0EvwkW3HSRl0M1aMJT8dstahHduZhKQQqwsfrSo1dOWM/0t+kMEVWsf2uHo HlulYW54CBbOmS1PbzPCipOqx2r3at3/4WExHKHc= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=resistor.net; s=mail; t=1340053447; i=@resistor.net; bh=5dNgNi9G5vpelkLHfMli9s6AjSuAgwyaoZjvSjy3Dfs=; h=Date:To:From:Subject:Cc:In-Reply-To:References; b=LkZLGZmaddoYkl+j77TiiPFRp/iOfb1PhCvVs0c0294GViutXcLiJpQYmClfwKVJF CxaJnHjbJDNmLKYnrsuXd4GZf9Mkx6Fy8/xMvuKv3nusHbUDg7oc4c3nmTMKBxphjx Y7jO5jITPGG0ORemfzFL2Pi1q2odKdNIJ7TbOy4s= Message-Id: <6.2.5.6.2.20120618134823.096f77c8@resistor.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.5.6 Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 13:54:40 -0700 To: Benoit Claise From: SM In-Reply-To: <4FDF527F.2030409@cisco.com> References: <4FD8D316.4090202@cisco.com> <4300824F-36EF-4294-99D6-355336C19260@vpnc.org> <4FDA5EB4.9050207@cisco.com> <4FDE7202.3080205@cisco.com> <6E1D927D-4C23-4ECB-874A-F2AA0D208532@vpnc.org> <4FDF527F.2030409@cisco.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Cc: Tools Team Discussion Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] http://www.ietf.org/tools/rfcdiff/rfcdiff.pyht issue X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 21:04:13 -0000 Hi Benoit, At 09:08 18-06-2012, Benoit Claise wrote: >Wit the large diff text checked, I have the same error message: > The connection was reset > > The connection to the server was reset while the page was loading. The difference is between HTTP GET and HTTP POST. You are encountering the issue on a HTTP POST. Here's a reference for the dev side in case it helps http://lists.unbit.it/pipermail/uwsgi/2011-February/001396.html Regards, -sm From stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie Mon Jun 18 15:39:25 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B15011E80BB for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2012 15:39:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id X3RKPIaQiCGw for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2012 15:39:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scss.tcd.ie (hermes.scss.tcd.ie [IPv6:2001:770:10:200:889f:cdff:fe8d:ccd2]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F07011E80A0 for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2012 15:39:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.scss.tcd.ie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76C13171530; Mon, 18 Jun 2012 23:39:23 +0100 (IST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cs.tcd.ie; h= content-transfer-encoding:content-type:subject:mime-version :user-agent:from:date:message-id:received:received: x-virus-scanned; s=cs; t=1340059162; bh=iGTAv5tRy92Sx4YDG7fpjzMg IeyPVz3o/Z8nUh1PCZw=; b=e96rD0IKbjtcCJWf+tXX2CD+t5W4k1Xnl5P345Z8 M2Zavvb6phjt+FtMERtdIVAtSb5uWVxJC1tmiG0QZaHdocqC1yv4wD6+7/bawVGi ED9o2PoKFcPhFgZ1uX3KHGWykMJmrmbPZ5RuPQfRRw6V8CvMCB5tJjIdycxdvgG2 idRZW0rt9uZPgWr5s7PDs8+4OOJ3KVptX8XVf28dM6kvmkP/kXolzsVmEzu8Wap2 YPrZe19pG6t5Xz4smaaYYya6wXTEmlko5vXq9UziPEIjICOQNBIclfn72E+iNXyO Uh0FkfPpEV08gGI/vwsaxvFRIFmMMhMxX2b+WAU1t/BX7A== X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at scss.tcd.ie Received: from scss.tcd.ie ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (scss.tcd.ie [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10027) with ESMTP id K-ILuKxJGTCp; Mon, 18 Jun 2012 23:39:22 +0100 (IST) Received: from [10.87.48.10] (unknown [86.41.12.186]) by smtp.scss.tcd.ie (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A92E617152C; Mon, 18 Jun 2012 23:39:22 +0100 (IST) Message-ID: <4FDFAE1A.9030404@cs.tcd.ie> Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 23:39:22 +0100 From: Stephen Farrell User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120430 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "tools-discuss@ietf.org Discussion" X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Ralph Droms Subject: [Tools-discuss] Does the IPR link go missing sometimes? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 22:39:25 -0000 Hi folks, The tools page for this [1] doesn't show the IPR link, but the tracker [2] shows there is some. Is it possible that because they posted html as well, that the IPR link falls off the right hand side of the page? Ta, S. [1] http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-mif-dns-server-selection-09 [2] https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/search/?option=document_search&id_document_tag=draft-ietf-mif-dns-server-selection From henrik@levkowetz.com Tue Jun 19 06:17:07 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42A0621F855B for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2012 06:17:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.149 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.149 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.450, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xXBBytAYzdrd for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2012 06:17:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from grenache.tools.ietf.org (unknown [IPv6:2a01:3f0:1:2:225:90ff:fe34:720e]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9879921F847A for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2012 06:17:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brunello.netnod.se ([77.72.226.95]:64096) by grenache.tools.ietf.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1SgyIg-00043E-KN; Tue, 19 Jun 2012 15:16:55 +0200 Message-ID: <4FE07BC6.70704@levkowetz.com> Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2012 15:16:54 +0200 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:10.0.5) Gecko/20120601 Thunderbird/10.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stephen Farrell References: <4FDFAE1A.9030404@cs.tcd.ie> In-Reply-To: <4FDFAE1A.9030404@cs.tcd.ie> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 77.72.226.95 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie, tools-discuss@ietf.org, rdroms.ietf@gmail.com, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Mon, 26 Dec 2011 16:24:06 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on grenache.tools.ietf.org) Cc: Ralph Droms , "tools-discuss@ietf.org Discussion" Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Does the IPR link go missing sometimes? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2012 13:17:07 -0000 Hi Stephen, On 2012-06-19 00:39 Stephen Farrell said: > > Hi folks, > > The tools page for this [1] doesn't show the IPR link, but the > tracker [2] shows there is some. > > Is it possible that because they posted html as well, that the > IPR link falls off the right hand side of the page? No, that's not it. I'll check up if there's any kind of problem with the transfer of IPR information from datatracker to tools. Best regards, Henrik > Ta, > S. > > [1] http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-mif-dns-server-selection-09 > [2] > https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/search/?option=document_search&id_document_tag=draft-ietf-mif-dns-server-selection > _______________________________________________ > Tools-discuss mailing list > Tools-discuss@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss > From henrik@levkowetz.com Tue Jun 19 06:24:35 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78C1421F8568 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2012 06:24:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gurgCfKdtwFm for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2012 06:24:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from grenache.tools.ietf.org (unknown [IPv6:2a01:3f0:1:2:225:90ff:fe34:720e]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9FB821F8559 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2012 06:24:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [2a01:3f0:1:0:3d5c:8cd1:606a:2c40] (port=64153 helo=brunello.netnod.se) by grenache.tools.ietf.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1SgyQ5-0006En-Mx; Tue, 19 Jun 2012 15:24:33 +0200 Message-ID: <4FE07D91.3080807@levkowetz.com> Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2012 15:24:33 +0200 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:10.0.5) Gecko/20120601 Thunderbird/10.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stephen Farrell References: <4FDFAE1A.9030404@cs.tcd.ie> <4FE07BC6.70704@levkowetz.com> In-Reply-To: <4FE07BC6.70704@levkowetz.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 2a01:3f0:1:0:3d5c:8cd1:606a:2c40 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie, tools-discuss@ietf.org, rdroms.ietf@gmail.com, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Mon, 26 Dec 2011 16:24:06 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on grenache.tools.ietf.org) Cc: Ralph Droms , "tools-discuss@ietf.org Discussion" Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Does the IPR link go missing sometimes? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2012 13:24:35 -0000 Hi, On 2012-06-19 15:16 Henrik Levkowetz said: > Hi Stephen, > > On 2012-06-19 00:39 Stephen Farrell said: >> >> Hi folks, >> >> The tools page for this [1] doesn't show the IPR link, but the >> tracker [2] shows there is some. >> >> Is it possible that because they posted html as well, that the >> IPR link falls off the right hand side of the page? > > No, that's not it. I'll check up if there's any kind of problem with > the transfer of IPR information from datatracker to tools. The problem was the triggering of a re-build of the html version when new IPR information comes in. Fixing that now. The html version has been updated. Best regards, Henrik From stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie Tue Jun 19 06:26:45 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8325721F84C8 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2012 06:26:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ifvddVj8xdxw for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2012 06:26:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scss.tcd.ie (hermes.scss.tcd.ie [IPv6:2001:770:10:200:889f:cdff:fe8d:ccd2]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ECE321F84A6 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2012 06:26:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.scss.tcd.ie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8120B17152B; Tue, 19 Jun 2012 14:26:43 +0100 (IST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cs.tcd.ie; h= content-transfer-encoding:content-type:in-reply-to:references :subject:mime-version:user-agent:from:date:message-id:received :received:x-virus-scanned; s=cs; t=1340112403; bh=9tMI2xl/rh22uM 5+pUSnp8ubEissfHXEX6M94E3k0lY=; b=4HmipnqYpi5fSGGzwXd4A8fFcPNE0C +XDX+BhccAZ0X13Xms870D2qsPp+O+qHMSrr4UzLbT2QEFcB/qdKr3a4/uourXOY /O4A52nkS+RPKb+1/brerYIF5KpLmYZDwEcgYjoO7J4KlXz0kyYrShmmG6BZzOsY 0LHbRWE+TNZZEsmPXCxl7OswI71XTSrkspZ+OfpN+eYSCdJfLu3UGaagwl7st9rx 6SFv1ZJdZChBh7uccUWQywMcWcIUM+m+4XuTFQVaD1hqcHDVhZjMnMQXkFlh8I59 ygH+hMYY/dKHrhjLZUN7T9BJt04nWxw7Idz7bmsC3foymvGU/IVKbrzg== X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at scss.tcd.ie Received: from scss.tcd.ie ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (scss.tcd.ie [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10027) with ESMTP id InUfUwwYV1tW; Tue, 19 Jun 2012 14:26:43 +0100 (IST) Received: from [IPv6:2001:770:10:203:94fa:f27:35dd:304d] (unknown [IPv6:2001:770:10:203:94fa:f27:35dd:304d]) by smtp.scss.tcd.ie (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1920F171528; Tue, 19 Jun 2012 14:26:43 +0100 (IST) Message-ID: <4FE07E12.4020501@cs.tcd.ie> Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2012 14:26:42 +0100 From: Stephen Farrell User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120430 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Henrik Levkowetz References: <4FDFAE1A.9030404@cs.tcd.ie> <4FE07BC6.70704@levkowetz.com> <4FE07D91.3080807@levkowetz.com> In-Reply-To: <4FE07D91.3080807@levkowetz.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Ralph Droms , "tools-discuss@ietf.org Discussion" Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Does the IPR link go missing sometimes? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2012 13:26:45 -0000 On 06/19/2012 02:24 PM, Henrik Levkowetz wrote: > Hi, > > On 2012-06-19 15:16 Henrik Levkowetz said: >> Hi Stephen, >> >> On 2012-06-19 00:39 Stephen Farrell said: >>> >>> Hi folks, >>> >>> The tools page for this [1] doesn't show the IPR link, but the >>> tracker [2] shows there is some. >>> >>> Is it possible that because they posted html as well, that the >>> IPR link falls off the right hand side of the page? >> >> No, that's not it. I'll check up if there's any kind of problem with >> the transfer of IPR information from datatracker to tools. > > The problem was the triggering of a re-build of the html version when > new IPR information comes in. Fixing that now. The html version has > been updated. Thanks Henrik! Speedy as always, Cheers, S > > > Best regards, > > Henrik > > From Sandra.Murphy@sparta.com Tue Jun 19 09:05:44 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F5B621F85C3; Tue, 19 Jun 2012 09:05:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.506 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.506 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.093, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id eIMsBAdIs1IN; Tue, 19 Jun 2012 09:05:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from M4.sparta.com (M4.sparta.com [157.185.61.2]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E07C21F8526; Tue, 19 Jun 2012 09:05:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Beta5.sparta.com (beta5.sparta.com [157.185.63.21]) by M4.sparta.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q5JG5gmD005652; Tue, 19 Jun 2012 11:05:42 -0500 Received: from Hermes.columbia.ads.sparta.com ([157.185.80.107]) by Beta5.sparta.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q5JG5deu007008; Tue, 19 Jun 2012 11:05:39 -0500 Received: from HERMES.columbia.ads.sparta.com ([2002:9db9:506b::9db9:506b]) by Hermes.columbia.ads.sparta.com ([2002:9db9:506b::9db9:506b]) with mapi id 14.01.0355.002; Tue, 19 Jun 2012 12:05:22 -0400 From: "Murphy, Sandra" To: "ietf-action@ietf.org" , "tools-discuss@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: non wg drafts reported in wg draft list Thread-Index: Ac1ONFAaxg88On1YThiPVrjT3eZFfA== Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2012 16:05:20 +0000 Message-ID: <24B20D14B2CD29478C8D5D6E9CBB29F625F2858C@Hermes.columbia.ads.sparta.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [157.185.63.118] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [Tools-discuss] non wg drafts reported in wg draft list X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2012 16:05:44 -0000 On the http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/sidr/, two personal drafts are listed= in the Active Internet-Drafts list. Their states are correctly shown as "= Adopted by a WG". The wg drafts that were the result of adoption are also = listed, with the correct state of "WG Document".=0A= =0A= The two personal drafts are:=0A= =0A= draft-ymbk-rpki-rtr-impl-01=0A= draft-ymbk-bgpsec-rtr-rekeying-00=0A= =0A= and the wg draft replacements are=0A= =0A= draft-ietf-sidr-rpki-rtr-impl-00=0A= draft-ietf-sidr-rtr-keying-00=0A= =0A= Did I do something that made this happen? If so, can you tell me so I prev= ent it happening again? If I did not make this happen, could it be fixed? = (I.e., remove the personal drafts from the Active list and retain the wg dr= afts)=0A= =0A= Similarly, I noted a while ago that the tools.ietf.org/wg/sidr page lists d= raft-ymbk-bgpsec-rtr-rekeying under Active drafts. It also lists the offic= ial wg draft draft-ietf-sidr-rtr-keying replacement under Active drafts. B= oth draft-ymbk-bgpsec-rtr-rekeying and draft-ymbk-rpki-rtr-impl should be l= isted under "Related Active Documents", with notes that they are replaced b= y draft-ietf-sidr-rtr-keying (for draft-ymbk-bgpsec-rtr-rekeying) and draft= -ietf-sidr-rpki-rtr-impl (for draft-ymbk-rpki-rtr-impl-01).=0A= =0A= OK?=0A= =0A= --Sandy= From magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com Tue Jun 19 23:36:53 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2EF221F8573 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2012 23:36:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.249 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.249 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_SE=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WcDSQ2YiZIgF for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2012 23:36:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailgw2.ericsson.se (mailgw2.ericsson.se [193.180.251.37]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AF7D21F8570 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2012 23:36:52 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: c1b4fb25-b7fbf6d000002e5d-f8-4fe16f825cde Received: from esessmw0191.eemea.ericsson.se (Unknown_Domain [153.88.253.125]) by mailgw2.ericsson.se (Symantec Mail Security) with SMTP id 38.05.11869.28F61EF4; Wed, 20 Jun 2012 08:36:50 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (153.88.115.8) by esessmw0191.eemea.ericsson.se (153.88.115.85) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.3.264.0; Wed, 20 Jun 2012 08:36:50 +0200 Message-ID: <4FE16F81.5070108@ericsson.com> Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 08:36:49 +0200 From: Magnus Westerlund User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120614 Thunderbird/13.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Murphy, Sandra" References: <24B20D14B2CD29478C8D5D6E9CBB29F625F2858C@Hermes.columbia.ads.sparta.com> In-Reply-To: <24B20D14B2CD29478C8D5D6E9CBB29F625F2858C@Hermes.columbia.ads.sparta.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFprDLMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUyM+JvrW5T/kN/g+un1S1ap0ZabD8yl9GB yWPJkp9MHpub3zMFMEVx2aSk5mSWpRbp2yVwZRxbO4Wp4A1/xbNP15gaGB/xdDFyckgImEjM mHCFHcIWk7hwbz1bFyMXh5DAKUaJWaf2MEM4yxklLnxexQpSxSugLXH19jw2EJtFQFViVst+ sG42AQuJmz8aweKiAsES06bfY4eoF5Q4OfMJC4gtIqAvsWNbIzOIzSxgKrG6ezZYvbCAi8TL dXfB6oUEQiVWfzkLVsMpECaxae1LFojrJCXuta9mg+jVk5hytYURwpaXaN46mxmiV1uioamD dQKj0Cwkq2chaZmFpGUBI/MqRuHcxMyc9HIjvdSizOTi4vw8veLUTYzAED645bfqDsY750QO MUpzsCiJ81pv3eMvJJCeWJKanZpakFoUX1Sak1p8iJGJg1OqgdFyTsUn1uWPOWJ/Or/a8H8Z U6ru0i/3fzQs4K5jMn78PXepzeStzD+eM9SU3HFrnZgoLljhEsHwJs3V5OUE1TWiahuz/H9U 2qz9+VHEnrPwdtvK/jVXlTYea9P/0M3OEPLJIay17YeK+IqYNVNdlr/Z915+1aXzGt94DrZM nXfvr9D2P53psf5KLMUZiYZazEXFiQAt9kXaLwIAAA== Cc: "tools-discuss@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] non wg drafts reported in wg draft list X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 06:36:54 -0000 On 2012-06-19 18:05, Murphy, Sandra wrote: > On the http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/sidr/, two personal drafts are > listed in the Active Internet-Drafts list. Their states are > correctly shown as "Adopted by a WG". The wg drafts that were the > result of adoption are also listed, with the correct state of "WG > Document". > > The two personal drafts are: > > draft-ymbk-rpki-rtr-impl-01 draft-ymbk-bgpsec-rtr-rekeying-00 > > and the wg draft replacements are > > draft-ietf-sidr-rpki-rtr-impl-00 draft-ietf-sidr-rtr-keying-00 > > Did I do something that made this happen? If so, can you tell me so > I prevent it happening again? If I did not make this happen, could > it be fixed? (I.e., remove the personal drafts from the Active list > and retain the wg drafts) If you put the individual documents into a document state which indicates that they are WG documents they will be shown in the WG part. I would change the state to something that capture that you run the call for adopting them, but that these are not adopted. And then add replaced by information for them. I also noted that: draft-ietf-sidr-algorithm-agility-05 Is down in the active list, because the chairs has put/left the document in the state of "Call for adoption by WG issued". If you change that to WG Document it will show up in the WG documents part. When you start using the tracker, you can't simply stop using it. You have to ensure that you have consistent states with what the document really are in. Cheers Magnus Magnus Westerlund ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Multimedia Technologies, Ericsson Research EAB/TVM ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Ericsson AB | Phone +46 10 7148287 Färögatan 6 | Mobile +46 73 0949079 SE-164 80 Stockholm, Sweden| mailto: magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From sm@resistor.net Fri Jun 22 04:00:21 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6051521F8652 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2012 04:00:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.562 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.562 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.037, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vtX1Mda2bQIK for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2012 04:00:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx.ipv6.elandsys.com (mx.ipv6.elandsys.com [IPv6:2001:470:f329:1::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4846E21F853A for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2012 04:00:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from SUBMAN.resistor.net (IDENT:sm@localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by mx.elandsys.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q5MB0CU7017149; Fri, 22 Jun 2012 04:00:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=opendkim.org; s=mail2010; t=1340362817; i=@resistor.net; bh=0UuC+okYLerKvnrVlEiyRHo5AXqmPu8XkuXWNlp+20w=; h=Date:To:From:Subject:Cc:In-Reply-To:References; b=mjg71M8k7EO0hhFqrgDsP+RXpyDOYwpgBKUux0QrXEjpd8+9k4evbwkZylXrIaltT toWFMQn6Z+bxJaU13HuCSg3UvvAZDzzxdRN6WD4XDNgAcHR79/ccazdFyCgX7OGodR vhQN303jFhstIU0G1qtg3Pwfx+EtUqD5J8zHK78U= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=resistor.net; s=mail; t=1340362817; i=@resistor.net; bh=0UuC+okYLerKvnrVlEiyRHo5AXqmPu8XkuXWNlp+20w=; h=Date:To:From:Subject:Cc:In-Reply-To:References; b=gOiXBqVaXJWqLcwBBeQs+zJYM+r0Edp/QTRrQBgGTE507Y/MKjOeLQNabSSfBE6Uj z11u3Bp/CcSe7u9TzDeNu7/lIGb2pB2WcznQpQ9ypmjiPKyto1Lor3ppyhDX1ceAwf mPZnl9JrJj+ey41YE6xji9rvRwO2Y/g5PwfcH70s= Message-Id: <6.2.5.6.2.20120622034549.089dde08@resistor.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.5.6 Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2012 03:53:00 -0700 To: tools-discuss@ietf.org From: SM In-Reply-To: <048.216735640e2d8e07a931f0a374aba880@tools.ietf.org> References: <048.216735640e2d8e07a931f0a374aba880@tools.ietf.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Cc: sidr-chairs@tools.ietf.org Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] [sidr] #20: http://www.pldtathome.com/Stores/StoreFront/ViewHome/1317/57725 X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2012 11:00:21 -0000 Hello, [snipped unwanted content] At 18:20 20-06-2012, sidr issue tracker wrote: >Ticket URL: http://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/sidr/trac/query?reporter=anonymous shows two reports with content which is unrelated to IETF work. I suggest disabling anonymous reporters to curtail unwanted content. Regards, -sm From Sandra.Murphy@sparta.com Fri Jun 22 06:05:02 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DF5121F866B for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2012 06:05:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.531 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.531 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.068, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3muVIUK5DgmB for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2012 06:05:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from M4.sparta.com (M4.sparta.com [157.185.61.2]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BA6521F860B for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2012 06:05:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Beta5.sparta.com (beta5.sparta.com [157.185.63.21]) by M4.sparta.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q5MD4uAF003632; Fri, 22 Jun 2012 08:04:57 -0500 Received: from Hermes.columbia.ads.sparta.com ([157.185.80.107]) by Beta5.sparta.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q5MD4O3M010327; Fri, 22 Jun 2012 08:04:27 -0500 Received: from HERMES.columbia.ads.sparta.com ([2002:9db9:506b::9db9:506b]) by Hermes.columbia.ads.sparta.com ([2002:9db9:506b::9db9:506b]) with mapi id 14.01.0355.002; Fri, 22 Jun 2012 09:04:04 -0400 From: "Murphy, Sandra" To: SM , "tools-discuss@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [sidr] #20: http://www.pldtathome.com/Stores/StoreFront/ViewHome/1317/57725 Thread-Index: AQHNUGY/rctaMJ2b1EKiBq2NcqGu2JcGTcAC Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2012 13:04:04 +0000 Message-ID: <24B20D14B2CD29478C8D5D6E9CBB29F625F2B792@Hermes.columbia.ads.sparta.com> References: <048.216735640e2d8e07a931f0a374aba880@tools.ietf.org>, <6.2.5.6.2.20120622034549.089dde08@resistor.net> In-Reply-To: <6.2.5.6.2.20120622034549.089dde08@resistor.net> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [157.185.63.118] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "sidr-chairs@tools.ietf.org" Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] [sidr] #20: http://www.pldtathome.com/Stores/StoreFront/ViewHome/1317/57725 X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2012 13:05:02 -0000 Thanks for the suggestion of how to deal with this. =0A= =0A= I had noted the message but had not noted the entries. Thanks for pointing= that out also.=0A= =0A= --Sandy=0A= ________________________________________=0A= From: SM [sm@resistor.net]=0A= Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 6:53 AM=0A= To: tools-discuss@ietf.org=0A= Cc: sidr-chairs@tools.ietf.org=0A= Subject: Re: [sidr] #20: http://www.pldtathome.com/Stores/StoreFront/ViewH= ome/1317/57725=0A= =0A= Hello,=0A= =0A= [snipped unwanted content]=0A= =0A= At 18:20 20-06-2012, sidr issue tracker wrote:=0A= >Ticket URL: =0A= =0A= http://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/sidr/trac/query?reporter=3Danonymous=0A= shows two reports with content which is unrelated to IETF work. I=0A= suggest disabling anonymous reporters to curtail unwanted content.=0A= =0A= Regards,=0A= -sm=0A= =0A= From henrik@levkowetz.com Mon Jun 25 01:05:33 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F17E21F8516 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 01:05:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.299 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.299 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.300, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iBOv1BsA-++c for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 01:05:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from grenache.tools.ietf.org (unknown [IPv6:2a01:3f0:1:2:225:90ff:fe34:720e]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41F9921F852A for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 01:05:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brunello.netnod.se ([77.72.226.95]:58301) by grenache.tools.ietf.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1Sj4IB-0002mz-Ot; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 10:05:08 +0200 Message-ID: <4FE81BAF.4020503@levkowetz.com> Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 10:05:03 +0200 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:10.0.5) Gecko/20120601 Thunderbird/10.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Murphy, Sandra" References: <048.216735640e2d8e07a931f0a374aba880@tools.ietf.org>, <6.2.5.6.2.20120622034549.089dde08@resistor.net> <24B20D14B2CD29478C8D5D6E9CBB29F625F2B792@Hermes.columbia.ads.sparta.com> In-Reply-To: <24B20D14B2CD29478C8D5D6E9CBB29F625F2B792@Hermes.columbia.ads.sparta.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 77.72.226.95 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: Sandra.Murphy@sparta.com, sm@resistor.net, tools-discuss@ietf.org, sidr-chairs@tools.ietf.org, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Mon, 26 Dec 2011 16:24:06 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on grenache.tools.ietf.org) Cc: "sidr-chairs@tools.ietf.org" , "tools-discuss@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] [sidr] #20: http://www.pldtathome.com/Stores/StoreFront/ViewHome/1317/57725 X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 08:05:33 -0000 Hi Sandy, The default setting for the Trac installations on tools.ietf.org should be to require login in order to create or modify tickets or wiki pages. Did you change that setting to permitting anonymous changes, or do I need to go digging through the setup scripts to see if there's a bug there somewhere? Best regards, Henrik On 2012-06-22 15:04 Murphy, Sandra said: > Thanks for the suggestion of how to deal with this. > > I had noted the message but had not noted the entries. Thanks for pointing that out also. > > --Sandy > ________________________________________ > From: SM [sm@resistor.net] > Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 6:53 AM > To: tools-discuss@ietf.org > Cc: sidr-chairs@tools.ietf.org > Subject: Re: [sidr] #20: http://www.pldtathome.com/Stores/StoreFront/ViewHome/1317/57725 > > Hello, > > [snipped unwanted content] > > At 18:20 20-06-2012, sidr issue tracker wrote: >> Ticket URL: > > http://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/sidr/trac/query?reporter=anonymous > shows two reports with content which is unrelated to IETF work. I > suggest disabling anonymous reporters to curtail unwanted content. > > Regards, > -sm > > _______________________________________________ > Tools-discuss mailing list > Tools-discuss@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss > From morrowc@ops-netman.net Mon Jun 25 06:16:49 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C4CA21F8548 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 06:16:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GPPym967W01l for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 06:16:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailserver.ops-netman.net (mailserver.ops-netman.net [IPv6:2001:470:e495:fade:5054:ff:fe79:69db]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 447B321F85F8 for ; 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Mon, 25 Jun 2012 10:02:18 -0400 From: "Murphy, Sandra" To: Chris Morrow , Henrik Levkowetz Thread-Topic: [Tools-discuss] [sidr] #20: http://www.pldtathome.com/Stores/StoreFront/ViewHome/1317/57725 Thread-Index: AQHNUtTAu5Ci0UPsG0W37canVR4edpcLDhzm Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 14:02:17 +0000 Message-ID: <24B20D14B2CD29478C8D5D6E9CBB29F625F2B98A@Hermes.columbia.ads.sparta.com> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [157.185.63.118] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "sidr-chairs@tools.ietf.org" , "tools-discuss@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] [sidr] #20: http://www.pldtathome.com/Stores/StoreFront/ViewHome/1317/57725 X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 14:03:14 -0000 Thanks, Chris.=0A= =0A= I recall that I changed the settings to restrict the ability to change the = wiki when a sidr member added a registration for someone else for an interi= m meeting (that looked like a joke at the time). I had some discussion (wi= th tools team?) about the fact that changes apply to the entire wiki site, = not just one page. When the interim meeting was over, I changed it back to= what I thought it had been. I guess I did that wrong?=0A= =0A= What does it take to get a login account on the tools site? Do you have to= be a wg chair or can all IETF-ers get an account?=0A= =0A= --Sandy=0A= ________________________________________=0A= From: Chris Morrow [morrowc@ops-netman.net]=0A= Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 9:16 AM=0A= To: Henrik Levkowetz=0A= Cc: Murphy, Sandra; SM; tools-discuss@ietf.org; sidr-chairs@tools.ietf.org= =0A= Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] [sidr] #20: http://www.pldtathome.com/Stores/S= toreFront/ViewHome/1317/57725=0A= =0A= It looked, last night, like the settings were not the default. I think I re= stored things close to default (last night).=0A= =0A= -chris=0A= =0A= Henrik Levkowetz wrote:=0A= =0A= >Hi Sandy,=0A= >=0A= >The default setting for the Trac installations on tools.ietf.org should=0A= >be to require login in order to create or modify tickets or wiki pages.=0A= >=0A= >Did you change that setting to permitting anonymous changes, or do I need= =0A= >to go digging through the setup scripts to see if there's a bug there=0A= >somewhere?=0A= >=0A= >=0A= >Best regards,=0A= >=0A= > Henrik=0A= >=0A= >On 2012-06-22 15:04 Murphy, Sandra said:=0A= >> Thanks for the suggestion of how to deal with this.=0A= >>=0A= >> I had noted the message but had not noted the entries. Thanks for point= ing that out also.=0A= >>=0A= >> --Sandy=0A= >> ________________________________________=0A= >> From: SM [sm@resistor.net]=0A= >> Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 6:53 AM=0A= >> To: tools-discuss@ietf.org=0A= >> Cc: sidr-chairs@tools.ietf.org=0A= >> Subject: Re: [sidr] #20: http://www.pldtathome.com/Stores/StoreFront/Vi= ewHome/1317/57725=0A= >>=0A= >> Hello,=0A= >>=0A= >> [snipped unwanted content]=0A= >>=0A= >> At 18:20 20-06-2012, sidr issue tracker wrote:=0A= >>> Ticket URL: =0A= >>=0A= >> http://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/sidr/trac/query?reporter=3Danonymous=0A= >> shows two reports with content which is unrelated to IETF work. I=0A= >> suggest disabling anonymous reporters to curtail unwanted content.=0A= >>=0A= >> Regards,=0A= >> -sm=0A= >>=0A= >> _______________________________________________=0A= >> Tools-discuss mailing list=0A= >> Tools-discuss@ietf.org=0A= >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss=0A= >>=0A= From henrik@levkowetz.com Mon Jun 25 10:00:09 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CDAF21F852E for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 10:00:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.399 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.399 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.200, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id SmpFumegsZop for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 10:00:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from merlot.tools.ietf.org (merlot.tools.ietf.org [IPv6:2a01:3f0:0:31::14]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5822321F847C for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 10:00:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from h225n11-s-oev-d2.ias.bredband.telia.com ([2.248.171.225]:63444 helo=vigonier.lan) by merlot.tools.ietf.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1SjCdb-0005GR-NF; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 18:59:44 +0200 Message-ID: <4FE898F9.3000401@levkowetz.com> Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 18:59:37 +0200 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:10.0.5) Gecko/20120601 Thunderbird/10.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Murphy, Sandra" References: <24B20D14B2CD29478C8D5D6E9CBB29F625F2B98A@Hermes.columbia.ads.sparta.com> In-Reply-To: <24B20D14B2CD29478C8D5D6E9CBB29F625F2B98A@Hermes.columbia.ads.sparta.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 2.248.171.225 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: Sandra.Murphy@sparta.com, morrowc@ops-netman.net, sm@resistor.net, tools-discuss@ietf.org, sidr-chairs@tools.ietf.org, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Mon, 26 Dec 2011 16:57:07 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on merlot.tools.ietf.org) Cc: "sidr-chairs@tools.ietf.org" , "tools-discuss@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] [sidr] #20: http://www.pldtathome.com/Stores/StoreFront/ViewHome/1317/57725 X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 17:00:09 -0000 Hi Sandy, Chris, On 2012-06-25 16:02 Murphy, Sandra said the following: > Thanks, Chris. > > I recall that I changed the settings to restrict the ability to > change the wiki when a sidr member added a registration for someone > else for an interim meeting (that looked like a joke at the time). I > had some discussion (with tools team?) about the fact that changes > apply to the entire wiki site, not just one page. When the interim > meeting was over, I changed it back to what I thought it had been. I > guess I did that wrong? That would explain the too-open settings yesterday before Chris fixed things. > What does it take to get a login account on the tools site? Do you > have to be a wg chair or can all IETF-ers get an account? All IETF-ers can get an account, but you have to prove email round-trip correctness, so an account also means accountability. There is some behind-the-scenes automatic verification of eligibility, with fallback to manual handling when the scripted routines fail. Best regards, Henrik > > --Sandy > ________________________________________ > From: Chris Morrow [morrowc@ops-netman.net] > Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 9:16 AM > To: Henrik Levkowetz > Cc: Murphy, Sandra; SM; tools-discuss@ietf.org; sidr-chairs@tools.ietf.org > Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] [sidr] #20: http://www.pldtathome.com/Stores/StoreFront/ViewHome/1317/57725 > > It looked, last night, like the settings were not the default. I think I restored things close to default (last night). > > -chris > > Henrik Levkowetz wrote: > >>Hi Sandy, >> >>The default setting for the Trac installations on tools.ietf.org should >>be to require login in order to create or modify tickets or wiki pages. >> >>Did you change that setting to permitting anonymous changes, or do I need >>to go digging through the setup scripts to see if there's a bug there >>somewhere? >> >> >>Best regards, >> >> Henrik >> >>On 2012-06-22 15:04 Murphy, Sandra said: >>> Thanks for the suggestion of how to deal with this. >>> >>> I had noted the message but had not noted the entries. Thanks for pointing that out also. >>> >>> --Sandy >>> ________________________________________ >>> From: SM [sm@resistor.net] >>> Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 6:53 AM >>> To: tools-discuss@ietf.org >>> Cc: sidr-chairs@tools.ietf.org >>> Subject: Re: [sidr] #20: http://www.pldtathome.com/Stores/StoreFront/ViewHome/1317/57725 >>> >>> Hello, >>> >>> [snipped unwanted content] >>> >>> At 18:20 20-06-2012, sidr issue tracker wrote: >>>> Ticket URL: >>> >>> http://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/sidr/trac/query?reporter=anonymous >>> shows two reports with content which is unrelated to IETF work. I >>> suggest disabling anonymous reporters to curtail unwanted content. >>> >>> Regards, >>> -sm >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Tools-discuss mailing list >>> Tools-discuss@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss >>> > From cabo@tzi.org Mon Jun 25 10:25:48 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED43C21F8499 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 10:25:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.474 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.474 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.225, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VKqZPKYzP7ke for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 10:25:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from informatik.uni-bremen.de (mailhost.informatik.uni-bremen.de [IPv6:2001:638:708:30c9::12]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEACE21F847D for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 10:25:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at informatik.uni-bremen.de Received: from smtp-fb3.informatik.uni-bremen.de (smtp-fb3.informatik.uni-bremen.de [134.102.224.120]) by informatik.uni-bremen.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q5PHPbJk027715 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 19:25:37 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.217.117] (p54894D11.dip.t-dialin.net [84.137.77.17]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp-fb3.informatik.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 015CAFFE; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 19:25:36 +0200 (CEST) From: Carsten Bormann Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_BE5E17DB-D54B-4F3F-9EFD-2DF6E8222E4B"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 19:25:21 +0200 To: Tools Team Discussion Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) Subject: [Tools-discuss] xml.resource.org updating nit X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 17:25:48 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_BE5E17DB-D54B-4F3F-9EFD-2DF6E8222E4B Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 These don't get the current versions (of May 8 and May 31), leading to = this IDnits output: =3D=3D Outdated reference: A later version (-04) exists of draft-mcgrew-tls-aes-ccm-03 =3D=3D Outdated reference: A later version (-03) exists of draft-mcgrew-tls-aes-ccm-ecc-02 Who is maintaining this important community resource? Gr=FC=DFe, Carsten --Apple-Mail=_BE5E17DB-D54B-4F3F-9EFD-2DF6E8222E4B Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.17 (Darwin) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJP6J8PAAoJEOJNa+ZMLyoiBfYP/iwz4xy45cAPtQ6cuvXTN/e5 7LJGv96ZXn7clUgPlg5B9L+GrjCWc3tyQDiThb4qEfz6aIVM9aC+7mtp1SDPl9r8 v1RVyayYaNBgXep6aumJNuS1VBDVEXM5MKr6dQedmDkNr8hp4En9NQoPwemGOPwb AQpvy7krWdtb/VWUg4lTcMfDObdWjz8hyrPfMrvBC5zKIAJ5un/Xvs8NWDalI1oV YvUDo1Vb6sVUQABabmoMkPli6b3syAMiQeblkxLpV3Xzv0kwATj1Xu680ZJnjkTW 0oNjWO4kpZdvDZoFW21ehPIyAmJ8ctKVJf2K6jtudUr/dLzR/PsWbYW5GS5AHxau WeaqK4Zhk8EFq4kDzzw0PSE+bTeXeFqaGzJGs25lTQoXSq2U8giG+trtzDvyvqkc DODC8hCyCAQLXn4+H/BakUIrXbu23Z2ycdl6NK562KVssBKrEMbF7frZX57NgMw7 wc+lNkRQxEkbUvc8jbDT2twwxB8RjvnHDGMUtoZBpOpm5pf5xnVatwPLQ69kBckX Gi3+WGhwcxWwi2/m0w0ZTqxlQ+/XRX3tPQonvGHNSQs7KtBszO1/LKNu3EtDTyFy jlejb54jPn19t4kEJRtA88eeKJv8MsCRgUi5UoHjrMpLR8FBlDYCH9sopblBFXpn zfVINgaB/vy0hIEHYPo/ =vwQ1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_BE5E17DB-D54B-4F3F-9EFD-2DF6E8222E4B-- From cabo@tzi.org Mon Jun 25 15:57:58 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6442521F85D9; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 15:57:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.438 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.438 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.189, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WkFJVDYmmeNV; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 15:57:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from informatik.uni-bremen.de (mailhost.informatik.uni-bremen.de [IPv6:2001:638:708:30c9::12]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FC9321F85D8; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 15:57:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at informatik.uni-bremen.de Received: from smtp-fb3.informatik.uni-bremen.de (smtp-fb3.informatik.uni-bremen.de [134.102.224.120]) by informatik.uni-bremen.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q5PMvmvs002893; Tue, 26 Jun 2012 00:57:48 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.217.105] (p54894D11.dip.t-dialin.net [84.137.77.17]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp-fb3.informatik.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E0A85DA; Tue, 26 Jun 2012 00:57:47 +0200 (CEST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) From: Carsten Bormann Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 00:57:48 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: To: Tools Team Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) Cc: ietf-action@ietf.org Subject: [Tools-discuss] Trac mail throttling at ietfa.amsl.com? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 22:57:58 -0000 Is this a bug or a feature: The Trac mails for a number of CoRE ticket changes that happened around = 2011Z are coming in one by one, spaced in multiples of half hour = intervals (well, it seems to be completely stuck right now). It appears this is happening between grenache.tools.ietf.org = (grenache.tools.ietf.org [77.72.230.30]) and ietfa.amsl.com, so I'm = CCing ietf-action (please be careful when replying). Gr=FC=DFe, Carsten Received: from grenache.tools.ietf.org (grenache.tools.ietf.org = [77.72.230.30]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A16511E808C for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 14:45:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35017 helo=3Dgrenache.tools.ietf.org = ident=3Dwww-data) by grenache.tools.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1SjFey-0000U6-Me; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 22:13:20 +0200 Received: from grenache.tools.ietf.org (grenache.tools.ietf.org = [77.72.230.30]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FD9C21F8585 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 14:15:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34996 helo=3Dgrenache.tools.ietf.org = ident=3Dwww-data) by grenache.tools.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1SjFej-0003ch-Tm; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 22:13:05 +0200 From henrik@levkowetz.com Tue Jun 26 00:49:43 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56ED821F8589 for ; Tue, 26 Jun 2012 00:49:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.333 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.333 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.268, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id SFK0epKY49EN for ; Tue, 26 Jun 2012 00:49:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from grenache.tools.ietf.org (unknown [IPv6:2a01:3f0:1:2:225:90ff:fe34:720e]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 941F721F8585 for ; Tue, 26 Jun 2012 00:49:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [2a01:3f0:1:0:182d:b0e5:4246:d5f6] (port=49445 helo=brunello.netnod.se) by grenache.tools.ietf.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1SjQWc-0001VF-QC; Tue, 26 Jun 2012 09:49:32 +0200 Message-ID: <4FE96985.6060300@levkowetz.com> Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 09:49:25 +0200 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:10.0.5) Gecko/20120601 Thunderbird/10.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Carsten Bormann References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigBEC6786F0FBCEB0C615C336A" X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 2a01:3f0:1:0:182d:b0e5:4246:d5f6 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: cabo@tzi.org, tools-discuss@ietf.org, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Mon, 26 Dec 2011 16:24:06 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on grenache.tools.ietf.org) Cc: Tools Team Discussion Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] xml.resource.org updating nit X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 07:49:43 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigBEC6786F0FBCEB0C615C336A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Carsten, On 2012-06-25 19:25 Carsten Bormann said: > > >=20 > These don't get the current versions (of May 8 and May 31), leading to = this IDnits output: >=20 > =3D=3D Outdated reference: A later version (-04) exists of > draft-mcgrew-tls-aes-ccm-03 >=20 > =3D=3D Outdated reference: A later version (-03) exists of > draft-mcgrew-tls-aes-ccm-ecc-02 >=20 > Who is maintaining this important community resource? Essentially no-one. There is an old script inherited from Marshall Rose which runs on one of the tools servers, but given no free time and no inclination towards masochism I simply don't touch the TCL code it's written in... Best regards, Henrik --------------enigBEC6786F0FBCEB0C615C336A Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iEYEARECAAYFAk/paYYACgkQeVhrtTJkXCO1pQCgqUqe2L7OokYIoJwZLST7CPh4 tM4AoLj1Q2/tmKiFihPiLQz5PLLnbsAq =zdnY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigBEC6786F0FBCEB0C615C336A-- From henrik@levkowetz.com Tue Jun 26 00:58:08 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42F3621F8595 for ; Tue, 26 Jun 2012 00:58:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.374 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.374 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.225, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IMRTRbL27lbQ for ; Tue, 26 Jun 2012 00:58:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from grenache.tools.ietf.org (unknown [IPv6:2a01:3f0:1:2:225:90ff:fe34:720e]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F86221F858A for ; Tue, 26 Jun 2012 00:58:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brunello.netnod.se ([77.72.226.95]:49501) by grenache.tools.ietf.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1SjQf0-0006UF-E3; Tue, 26 Jun 2012 09:58:06 +0200 Message-ID: <4FE96B8D.9000704@levkowetz.com> Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 09:58:05 +0200 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:10.0.5) Gecko/20120601 Thunderbird/10.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Carsten Bormann References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig9933BFDF30C2E29048718848" X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 77.72.226.95 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: cabo@tzi.org, tools-discuss@ietf.org, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Mon, 26 Dec 2011 16:24:06 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on grenache.tools.ietf.org) Cc: Tools Team Discussion Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Trac mail throttling at ietfa.amsl.com? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 07:58:08 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig9933BFDF30C2E29048718848 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Carsten, On 2012-06-26 00:57 Carsten Bormann said: > Is this a bug or a feature: > The Trac mails for a number of CoRE ticket changes that happened around= 2011Z are coming in one by one, spaced in multiples of half hour interva= ls (well, it seems to be completely stuck right now). >=20 > It appears this is happening between grenache.tools.ietf.org (grenache.= tools.ietf.org [77.72.230.30]) and ietfa.amsl.com, so I'm CCing ietf-acti= on (please be careful when replying). >=20 > Gr=FC=DFe, Carsten >=20 > Received: from grenache.tools.ietf.org (grenache.tools.ietf.org [77.72.= 230.30]) > by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A16511E808C > for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 14:45:14 -0700 (PDT) > Received: from localhost > ([127.0.0.1]:35017 helo=3Dgrenache.tools.ietf.org ident=3Dwww-data) > by grenache.tools.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.77) > (envelope-from ) > id 1SjFey-0000U6-Me; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 22:13:20 +0200 >=20 > Received: from grenache.tools.ietf.org (grenache.tools.ietf.org [77.72.= 230.30]) > by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FD9C21F8585 > for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 14:15:04 -0700 (PDT) > Received: from localhost > ([127.0.0.1]:34996 helo=3Dgrenache.tools.ietf.org ident=3Dwww-data) > by grenache.tools.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.77) > (envelope-from ) > id 1SjFej-0003ch-Tm; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 22:13:05 +0200 Looks odd indeed. Investigating ... Best regards, Henrik --------------enig9933BFDF30C2E29048718848 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iEYEARECAAYFAk/pa44ACgkQeVhrtTJkXCOy5QCgl5oOXrCDJm+Pa4J94te2HOg2 L8IAoNKJ9c7Vuu//Y/pVSW6xlCwRqfjy =Wtkp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig9933BFDF30C2E29048718848-- From henrik@levkowetz.com Tue Jun 26 01:58:59 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2FC221F8550; Tue, 26 Jun 2012 01:58:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.819 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.819 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.420, BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_43=0.6, J_CHICKENPOX_44=0.6, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id szvqC+JInDES; Tue, 26 Jun 2012 01:58:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from grenache.tools.ietf.org (unknown [IPv6:2a01:3f0:1:2:225:90ff:fe34:720e]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F190A21F8517; Tue, 26 Jun 2012 01:58:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brunello.netnod.se ([77.72.226.95]:50075) by grenache.tools.ietf.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1SjRbX-0002qo-46; Tue, 26 Jun 2012 10:58:35 +0200 Message-ID: <4FE979BA.3040705@levkowetz.com> Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 10:58:34 +0200 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:10.0.5) Gecko/20120601 Thunderbird/10.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Carsten Bormann References: <4FE96B8D.9000704@levkowetz.com> In-Reply-To: <4FE96B8D.9000704@levkowetz.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig7EFF094F5CCF4308E318D2C8" X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 77.72.226.95 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: cabo@tzi.org, tools-discuss@ietf.org, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com, ietf-action@ietf.org X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Mon, 26 Dec 2011 16:24:06 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on grenache.tools.ietf.org) Cc: Tools Team Discussion Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Trac mail throttling at ietfa.amsl.com? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 08:58:59 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig7EFF094F5CCF4308E318D2C8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, Yes, ietfa.amsl.com is throttling connections. Here's a sample from the exim log file on grenache. This seems to have affected all the following= messages too; I would guess that having received 421 replies from a serve= r, exim won't try again immediately for any message to that server: 2012-06-25 22:11:40 [29399] 1SjFdJ-0006q5-Kj SMTP error from remote mai= l server after initial connection: host mail.ietf.org [2001:1890:123a::1:= 1e]: 421 4.7.0 ietfa.amsl.com Error: too many connections from 2a01:3f0:1= :2:225:90ff:fe34:720e 2012-06-25 22:11:40 [29399] 1SjFdJ-0006q5-Kj SMTP error from remote mai= l server after initial connection: host mail.ietf.org [12.22.58.30]: 421 = 4.7.0 ietfa.amsl.com Error: too many connections from 77.72.230.30 This was on the 5th connection within one minute -- there was two differe= nt messages from trac+iab and two different messages from trac+core. The li= mit is probably set a bit too low. Best regards, Henrik On 2012-06-26 09:58 Henrik Levkowetz said: > Hi Carsten, >=20 > On 2012-06-26 00:57 Carsten Bormann said: >> Is this a bug or a feature: >> The Trac mails for a number of CoRE ticket changes that happened aroun= d 2011Z are coming in one by one, spaced in multiples of half hour interv= als (well, it seems to be completely stuck right now). >> >> It appears this is happening between grenache.tools.ietf.org (grenache= =2Etools.ietf.org [77.72.230.30]) and ietfa.amsl.com, so I'm CCing ietf-a= ction (please be careful when replying). >> >> Gr=FC=DFe, Carsten >> >> Received: from grenache.tools.ietf.org (grenache.tools.ietf.org [77.72= =2E230.30]) >> by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A16511E808C >> for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 14:45:14 -0700 (PDT) >> Received: from localhost >> ([127.0.0.1]:35017 helo=3Dgrenache.tools.ietf.org ident=3Dwww-data) >> by grenache.tools.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.77) >> (envelope-from ) >> id 1SjFey-0000U6-Me; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 22:13:20 +0200 >> >> Received: from grenache.tools.ietf.org (grenache.tools.ietf.org [77.72= =2E230.30]) >> by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FD9C21F8585 >> for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 14:15:04 -0700 (PDT) >> Received: from localhost >> ([127.0.0.1]:34996 helo=3Dgrenache.tools.ietf.org ident=3Dwww-data) >> by grenache.tools.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.77) >> (envelope-from ) >> id 1SjFej-0003ch-Tm; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 22:13:05 +0200 >=20 > Looks odd indeed. Investigating ... >=20 >=20 >=20 > Best regards, >=20 > Henrik >=20 --------------enig7EFF094F5CCF4308E318D2C8 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iEYEARECAAYFAk/peboACgkQeVhrtTJkXCMeJwCguCmK21AtKv4cHGk38mV7gFXW cLYAoPeau/QaN6ByS+4ZVKsKYdzw/1q7 =2l1l -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig7EFF094F5CCF4308E318D2C8-- From lars@netapp.com Tue Jun 26 06:44:45 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCAAF21F8646; Tue, 26 Jun 2012 06:44:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -9.943 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-9.943 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.143, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8, SARE_SUB_RAND_LETTRS4=0.799] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cQ5WqrOUs+yJ; Tue, 26 Jun 2012 06:44:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx2.netapp.com (mx2.netapp.com [216.240.18.37]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49D0F21F862F; Tue, 26 Jun 2012 06:44:45 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.77,477,1336374000"; d="p7s'?scan'208";a="658068650" Received: from smtp1.corp.netapp.com ([10.57.156.124]) by mx2-out.netapp.com with ESMTP; 26 Jun 2012 06:44:44 -0700 Received: from vmwexceht05-prd.hq.netapp.com (vmwexceht05-prd.hq.netapp.com [10.106.77.35]) by smtp1.corp.netapp.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/NTAP-1.6) with ESMTP id q5QDiiIJ016993; Tue, 26 Jun 2012 06:44:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from SACEXCMBX01-PRD.hq.netapp.com ([169.254.2.193]) by vmwexceht05-prd.hq.netapp.com ([10.106.77.35]) with mapi id 14.02.0298.004; Tue, 26 Jun 2012 06:44:43 -0700 From: "Eggert, Lars" To: "tools-discuss@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: IRTF & liaison statements Thread-Index: AQHNU6HXZbtrYeuap0mRg3ZOd2KfAA== Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 13:44:42 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.106.53.51] Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_9A860964-A40A-4272-9D2A-B6046677C8C9"; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "iesg@ietf.org IESG" Subject: [Tools-discuss] IRTF & liaison statements X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 13:44:45 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_9A860964-A40A-4272-9D2A-B6046677C8C9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi, one of the IRTF RGs has just received a liaison statement by email from = ITU-T SG13. I believe that SG13 should have sent this via the IETF's liaison system, = and that the RG (or I) should send a reply also via the system. Is the liaison statement system set up to receive and send LS for the = IRTF? At least with my datatracker login, I don't see any options for = this in the new datatracker. (If or once this works, I will contact SG13 and ask them to resubmit.) 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[IPv6:2605:8e00:100:41::81]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AF7C21F8554 for ; Tue, 26 Jun 2012 07:40:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.20.30.101] (50-1-50-97.dsl.dynamic.fusionbroadband.com [50.1.50.97] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by hoffman.proper.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q5QEeLNF004953 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Tue, 26 Jun 2012 07:40:23 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from paul.hoffman@vpnc.org) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 From: Paul Hoffman In-Reply-To: <4FE979BA.3040705@levkowetz.com> Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 07:40:22 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <16CF8DDD-A10C-4BBE-8352-D1C284F05A8F@vpnc.org> References: <4FE96B8D.9000704@levkowetz.com> <4FE979BA.3040705@levkowetz.com> To: Henrik Levkowetz X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) Cc: Carsten Bormann , Tools Team Discussion Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Trac mail throttling at ietfa.amsl.com? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 14:40:25 -0000 On Jun 26, 2012, at 1:58 AM, Henrik Levkowetz wrote: > This was on the 5th connection within one minute -- there was two = different > messages from trac+iab and two different messages from trac+core. The = limit > is probably set a bit too low. The limiter should have a whitelist of every address known for other AMS = systems and all Tools systems. --Paul Hoffman= From bob.hinden@gmail.com Tue Jun 26 09:15:36 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F94321F84A1; Tue, 26 Jun 2012 09:15:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.112 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.112 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.312, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, SARE_SUB_RAND_LETTRS4=0.799, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jDu9uzKhvoNk; Tue, 26 Jun 2012 09:15:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-yx0-f172.google.com (mail-yx0-f172.google.com [209.85.213.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D505921F84A0; Tue, 26 Jun 2012 09:15:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by yenq13 with SMTP id q13so86009yen.31 for ; Tue, 26 Jun 2012 09:15:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=ZrqE1cmSFCkWiImT3SgcGHB0xavX/mAOEqtF3nz+JIA=; b=QuJX8DIwqUPxFYG0272s6jLM0vEXn5G3uDVIr8ALLuX2jGXJ0SKS2PSCReR3iDQYZ6 GhMmRMD7OgEpa8lKFNhRM8oNOjHqNChsIHeDtK/W9ZhWt9V2Jca9EqhUgQ3PvKky/FOC gQgPPcxjrPlON5NyXSmiZ+N/W0LrAhGRS2KNiYJyCP01UBWruaAp6MVwD0YULxA6DvvJ 0w2DaR6FlLIViyIlOfk+PikUlYfFBSrMu1Tmm5p8GuN8WJc7oNKguTYPSmrKIBrgqC0o Sa3qmc57HAos8fGWB7D1H5a0Mmp5eywNaF8xfNpcEiMcPZoU4KHk4GGznBotDkWQwjOm uJDA== Received: by 10.236.165.102 with SMTP id d66mr18225104yhl.54.1340727335493; Tue, 26 Jun 2012 09:15:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?IPv6:2601:9:4080:10:21e:c2ff:febb:8dfb? ([2601:9:4080:10:21e:c2ff:febb:8dfb]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id n37sm60575782anq.0.2012.06.26.09.15.33 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 26 Jun 2012 09:15:34 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Bob Hinden In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 09:15:31 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <0F2E63FE-31B1-416D-9EFA-E4AC3921C983@gmail.com> References: To: "Eggert, Lars" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Cc: "iesg@ietf.org IESG" , "tools-discuss@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] IRTF & liaison statements X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 16:15:36 -0000 Lars, What does it mean for the ITU to have a liasion with an IRTF RG? Could = there be some confusion between IETF working groups that produce IETF = standards vs. IRTF research groups? Bob On Jun 26, 2012, at 6:44 AM, Eggert, Lars wrote: > Hi, >=20 > one of the IRTF RGs has just received a liaison statement by email = from ITU-T SG13. >=20 > I believe that SG13 should have sent this via the IETF's liaison = system, and that the RG (or I) should send a reply also via the system. >=20 > Is the liaison statement system set up to receive and send LS for the = IRTF? At least with my datatracker login, I don't see any options for = this in the new datatracker. >=20 > (If or once this works, I will contact SG13 and ask them to resubmit.) >=20 > Lars_______________________________________________ > Tools-discuss mailing list > Tools-discuss@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From pusateri@bangj.com Fri Jun 29 14:46:17 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70CE321F8599 for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 14:46:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fdKw4dlFJxAW for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 14:46:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jj.bangj.com (jj.bangj.com [198.86.87.199]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B07D21F857F for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 14:46:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.16.21.105] (cpe-024-211-047-123.sc.res.rr.com [24.211.47.123]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by jj.bangj.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 50968D5 for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 17:46:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Tom Pusateri Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 17:46:14 -0400 Message-Id: <2C006962-C300-4FF9-B083-D4269BD962B1@bangj.com> To: Tools Team Discussion Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) Subject: [Tools-discuss] Agenda 84 ics file error X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 21:46:17 -0000 This was working earlier today but is broken now. Thanks, Tom pusateri [glow:1400] curl -O = http://tools.ietf.org/agenda/84/agenda_84.ics % Total % Received % Xferd Average Speed Time Time Time = Current Dload Upload Total Spent Left = Speed 100 75 100 75 0 0 265 0 --:--:-- --:--:-- --:--:-- = 535 pusateri [glow:1401] more agenda_84.ics=20 Error: File /www/tools.ietf.org/agenda/84/misc/vtimezone.ics doesn't = exist From pusateri@bangj.com Fri Jun 29 15:51:26 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EAE621F8685 for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 15:51:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QH+aqfr6XO41 for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 15:51:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jj.bangj.com (jj.bangj.com [198.86.87.199]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7213421F8683 for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 15:51:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.16.21.105] (cpe-024-211-047-123.sc.res.rr.com [24.211.47.123]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by jj.bangj.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 58150D7 for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 18:51:23 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) From: Tom Pusateri In-Reply-To: <2C006962-C300-4FF9-B083-D4269BD962B1@bangj.com> Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 18:51:23 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <40E8D6BA-8B30-4F93-A3D6-3C8602CB4C94@bangj.com> References: <2C006962-C300-4FF9-B083-D4269BD962B1@bangj.com> To: Tools Team Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Agenda 84 ics file error X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 22:51:26 -0000 On Jun 29, 2012, at 5:46 PM, Tom Pusateri wrote: > This was working earlier today but is broken now. >=20 > Thanks, > Tom >=20 > pusateri [glow:1400] curl -O = http://tools.ietf.org/agenda/84/agenda_84.ics > % Total % Received % Xferd Average Speed Time Time Time = Current > Dload Upload Total Spent Left = Speed > 100 75 100 75 0 0 265 0 --:--:-- --:--:-- = --:--:-- 535 > pusateri [glow:1401] more agenda_84.ics=20 > Error: File /www/tools.ietf.org/agenda/84/misc/vtimezone.ics doesn't = exist >=20 It's working again. Thanks, Tom From pusateri@bangj.com Fri Jun 29 19:59:52 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4629121F85A1 for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 19:59:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 60MwksuudPOI for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 19:59:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jj.bangj.com (jj.bangj.com [198.86.87.199]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0801B21F8540 for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 19:59:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.16.21.105] (cpe-024-211-047-123.sc.res.rr.com [24.211.47.123]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by jj.bangj.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 70525DA for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 22:59:44 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) From: Tom Pusateri In-Reply-To: <40E8D6BA-8B30-4F93-A3D6-3C8602CB4C94@bangj.com> Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 22:59:44 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <1D42E1CF-3CD8-4B10-829F-DCBF84AF87E6@bangj.com> References: <2C006962-C300-4FF9-B083-D4269BD962B1@bangj.com> <40E8D6BA-8B30-4F93-A3D6-3C8602CB4C94@bangj.com> To: Tools Team Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Agenda 84 ics file error X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2012 02:59:52 -0000 On Jun 29, 2012, at 6:51 PM, Tom Pusateri wrote: >=20 > On Jun 29, 2012, at 5:46 PM, Tom Pusateri wrote: >=20 >> This was working earlier today but is broken now. >>=20 >> Thanks, >> Tom >>=20 >> pusateri [glow:1400] curl -O = http://tools.ietf.org/agenda/84/agenda_84.ics >> % Total % Received % Xferd Average Speed Time Time Time = Current >> Dload Upload Total Spent Left = Speed >> 100 75 100 75 0 0 265 0 --:--:-- --:--:-- = --:--:-- 535 >> pusateri [glow:1401] more agenda_84.ics=20 >> Error: File /www/tools.ietf.org/agenda/84/misc/vtimezone.ics doesn't = exist >>=20 >=20 > It's working again. >=20 > Thanks, > Tom >=20 Sorry to keep replying to myself but the vtimezone file is missing = again. It seems to come and go but I haven't figured on what schedule. Thanks, Tom