From nobody Tue Jun 2 17:26:08 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: video-codec@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: video-codec@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79B2E1B3037 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 2015 17:26:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.977 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.977 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, HOST_MISMATCH_COM=0.311, SPF_FAIL=0.001] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cnU76_GB7q-v for ; Tue, 2 Jun 2015 17:26:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.mozilla.org (mx1.scl3.mozilla.com [63.245.214.155]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6AF1C1B322D for ; Tue, 2 Jun 2015 17:26:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost6.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.mail.scl3.mozilla.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDE3AC282B for ; Wed, 3 Jun 2015 00:26:02 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mozilla.org Received: from smtp.mozilla.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx1.mail.scl3.mozilla.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4fgEm0_PUJYB for ; Wed, 3 Jun 2015 00:26:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.252.28.176] (corp.mtv2.mozilla.com [63.245.221.32]) (Authenticated sender: tterriberry@mozilla.com) by mx1.mail.scl3.mozilla.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BC41EC282A for ; Wed, 3 Jun 2015 00:26:02 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <556E499A.2060906@xiph.org> Date: Tue, 02 Jun 2015 17:26:02 -0700 From: "Timothy B. Terriberry" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:29.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.26 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "video-codec@ietf.org" References: <20150603002052.18042.88660.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: <20150603002052.18042.88660.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> X-Forwarded-Message-Id: <20150603002052.18042.88660.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Subject: [video-codec] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-terriberry-netvc-codingtools-00.txt X-BeenThere: video-codec@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Video codec BoF discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2015 00:26:07 -0000 This is a (small) contribution towards the codec specification deliverable. This version replaces draft-terriberry-codingtools-02. I added a section on a new reduced-overhead arithmetic coding approximation we have been experimenting with, but the remaining sections remain unchanged. -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: New Version Notification for draft-terriberry-netvc-codingtools-00.txt Date: Tue, 02 Jun 2015 17:20:52 -0700 From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Timothy Terriberry , Timothy B. Terriberry A new version of I-D, draft-terriberry-netvc-codingtools-00.txt has been successfully submitted by Timothy B. Terriberry and posted to the IETF repository. Name: draft-terriberry-netvc-codingtools Revision: 00 Title: Coding Tools for a Next Generation Video Codec Document date: 2015-06-02 Group: Individual Submission Pages: 20 URL: https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-terriberry-netvc-codingtools-00.txt Status: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-terriberry-netvc-codingtools/ Htmlized: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-terriberry-netvc-codingtools-00 Abstract: This document proposes a number of coding tools that could be incorporated into a next-generation video codec. Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. The IETF Secretariat From nobody Tue Jun 9 14:40:27 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: video-codec@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: video-codec@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D58021A1EF7 for ; Tue, 9 Jun 2015 14:40:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.701 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.701 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_40=-0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id aeXGLoycajab for ; Tue, 9 Jun 2015 14:40:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qk0-f176.google.com (mail-qk0-f176.google.com [209.85.220.176]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8C0FF1A1BF1 for ; Tue, 9 Jun 2015 14:40:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by qkoo18 with SMTP id o18so16118869qko.1 for ; Tue, 09 Jun 2015 14:40:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=TqDnceB+0EBpcHu99jwzZ2UwLdfoFwBKb7aOVlYDIf4=; b=VTZl1zZfi0PprJEi65e03Uf+m7YR3M6AF8rIhKveNo9GB2Jjq6Ug1+BdC3jeutT4ln GsXHO60vC4uMbwSiYdkIVoNoLEV1BOJK3JpxIPyBjG4qHlVcxjC19rfL6pjOZYEp7Vfg BJ09wEImrGt0ixk0bo3PI4iUqoCrpIJY87/tbWBu+6gSGs2CWaeZfrd1EUj8NuPglzvV KYaPvgzsQ3JcAsEmiPfD1sdrA27myTO2/25DxLxvG2E/3MXG03ZCcsTjLG3QL0md04sl 4UqSdQI2sj1gm3lyqfxMD+O2UobiSNvOfh9h97Lp9ZIVFigjSzBwvvfiMO1zgBf4XHsE F7mQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlXALcJ8qDtqcfQtq2ex67h0fkbYdzVCTCH/R9dbFiiUwefUU8eMhnMX3vXNvDXY7H1GRKV X-Received: by 10.140.236.22 with SMTP id h22mr29329453qhc.92.1433886020671; Tue, 09 Jun 2015 14:40:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from panoramix.jmvalin.ca (modemcable074.170-201-24.mc.videotron.ca. [24.201.170.74]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id f31sm3258843qge.27.2015.06.09.14.40.19 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 09 Jun 2015 14:40:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <55775D43.1080109@jmvalin.ca> Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2015 17:40:19 -0400 From: Jean-Marc Valin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: video-codec@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Subject: [video-codec] draft-valin-netvc-pvq-00 X-BeenThere: video-codec@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Video codec BoF discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2015 21:40:26 -0000 Hi, Just to let everyone know that I resubmitted the PVQ draft under the new WG name: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-valin-netvc-pvq-00 For those interested, there's also a demo on the topic: http://people.xiph.org/~jm/daala/pvq_demo/ as well as a conference paper: http://jmvalin.ca/papers/spie_pvq.pdf Cheers, Jean-Marc From nobody Thu Jun 18 22:00:31 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: video-codec@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: video-codec@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E3021A1A6E for ; Thu, 18 Jun 2015 22:00:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.702 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.702 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_40=-0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lQDlrLhpCLcC for ; Thu, 18 Jun 2015 22:00:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pd0-f174.google.com (mail-pd0-f174.google.com [209.85.192.174]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48A8C1A1A6D for ; Thu, 18 Jun 2015 22:00:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by pdbci14 with SMTP id ci14so23736420pdb.2 for ; Thu, 18 Jun 2015 22:00:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=3D0kVz4bPaeyb1A9yyWzsNRLrl9/dpWw3BTlQC4QVZ8=; b=HRmH0xHOGUVSScHug9/twUv1vwp3PvULB4dyiD81KB9uhuZxTlV2uzLWT4V/i6/QVh g6uHOITUVpaN+fODu4V9ZwVPCncMPXhwwTOo6wVh2NjDPjTv32BuuvXilIntRPyHv7lG 5LZv1gPEm3zsBNT9Uwh53zknQQx2TVd92qOd01jW6FO6yfE1MeCSA8L9c6e8MTy+oY6E W4nRD1idx2nTauHU/S6tKe4sVaJInV//yEs7auTYFIM8LbbZglzgd8QdFR7Y1MDoU9KT pQ8uJL/T2eA8Ut+T4+qMddrXBFmb5O3kHTkv9aR0+uoxzohX7e4Qdz7mv3w38mGDMT38 NUow== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkuS+NKhzGoTMJtI7nzs8U5RnGBR0SusIPJM98WCGvx0Wt7k7BBvd6cc1F6yjy+aHJCmVWM X-Received: by 10.68.224.72 with SMTP id ra8mr27979571pbc.29.1434690008645; Thu, 18 Jun 2015 22:00:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.0.120] ([172.56.38.102]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id zf1sm9667628pbc.43.2015.06.18.22.00.06 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 18 Jun 2015 22:00:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5583A1D4.8070701@mozilla.com> Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 22:00:04 -0700 From: Thomas Daede User-Agent: http://a.pomf.se/cszdno.opus MIME-Version: 1.0 To: video-codec@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Subject: [video-codec] Reference frame precision X-BeenThere: video-codec@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Video codec BoF discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 05:00:30 -0000 At the most recent webm summit, early results were presented for VP10 that showed a 3-5% rate savings for using a 12-bit reference frame. In the case of Daala, the savings are similar, however on some clips the gain is much greater due to the particular transform and prediction design (the quilting issues seen earlier). Using full precision increases memory bandwidth 50-100%, depending on the implementation. We need to decide if this is an acceptable tradeoff. In addition, high-bit-depth input will also need this, and although it is much less common, there seems to be a trend towards supporting it in VP9 for hardware decoders. So, the question is more if we want to have two profiles, one for 8 and one for 10-12 bit, or only have one decoder profile mandating 8-12 bit support. From nobody Tue Jun 30 16:01:25 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: video-codec@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: video-codec@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9318C1ACDFB for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2015 16:01:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.91 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.91 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lpNbNWAbH22G for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2015 16:01:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nostrum.com (raven-v6.nostrum.com [IPv6:2001:470:d:1130::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 385D71ACDFD for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2015 16:01:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Orochi.local (99-152-145-110.lightspeed.dllstx.sbcglobal.net [99.152.145.110]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.15.1/8.14.9) with ESMTPSA id t5UN1I4g037691 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO); Tue, 30 Jun 2015 18:01:19 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from adam@nostrum.com) X-Authentication-Warning: raven.nostrum.com: Host 99-152-145-110.lightspeed.dllstx.sbcglobal.net [99.152.145.110] claimed to be Orochi.local Message-ID: <55931FBE.5050609@nostrum.com> Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2015 18:01:18 -0500 From: Adam Roach User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.8; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "video-codec@ietf.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Cc: "Mo Zanaty \(mzanaty\)" Subject: [video-codec] Preliminary Agenda X-BeenThere: video-codec@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Video codec BoF discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2015 23:01:23 -0000 [as chair] We now have a preliminary agenda up for NETVC at the upcoming meeting in Prague: https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/93/agenda/agenda-93-netvc Note that the mentioned Thor document isn't yet in the repository, but we expect it to be available prior to the document deadline on Monday. Also, while the requirements slot mentions only draft-filippov-netvc-requirements, the plan is to incorporate the contents of draft-moffitt-netvc-requirements into that document prior to the document deadline as well. /a