From w3c-dist-auth-request@frink.w3.org Wed Aug 03 13:50:48 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1E0NOC-0005nr-KF for webdav-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Wed, 03 Aug 2005 13:50:48 -0400 Received: from frink.w3.org (frink.w3.org [128.30.52.16]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA03369 for ; Wed, 3 Aug 2005 13:50:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lists by frink.w3.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1E0NLO-000652-Di for w3c-dist-auth-dist@listhub.w3.org; Wed, 03 Aug 2005 17:47:54 +0000 Received: from bart.w3.org ([128.30.52.40]) by frink.w3.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1E0NLM-00064P-Uy for w3c-dist-auth@listhub.w3.org; Wed, 03 Aug 2005 17:47:52 +0000 Received: from smtp4.poczta.onet.pl ([213.180.130.28]) by bart.w3.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1E0NLJ-0001mR-W3 for w3c-dist-auth@w3.org; Wed, 03 Aug 2005 17:47:52 +0000 Received: from p54989847.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([84.152.152.71]:35557 "EHLO wsamz") by ps4.test.onet.pl with ESMTP id ; Wed, 3 Aug 2005 19:47:35 +0200 Message-ID: <000a01c59853$aeffe2c0$506fa8c0@dom.img.com.pl> From: "Adam Mrozowski" To: Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2005 19:49:20 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C59864.707E15B0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-W3C-Hub-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 X-W3C-Scan-Sig: bart.w3.org 1E0NLJ-0001mR-W3 0d1f85390349b7b2e787d6c23e71e2f6 X-Original-To: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Subject: Caching in WebDav X-Archived-At: http://www.w3.org/mid/000a01c59853$aeffe2c0$506fa8c0@dom.img.com.pl Resent-From: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9778 X-Loop: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Resent-Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Precedence: list List-Id: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: Resent-Message-Id: Resent-Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2005 17:47:54 +0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C59864.707E15B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I wonder if it's possible to omit cachnig in WebDAV. Now if the file is = once read from the server it's cached on the client hdd and next time = the client opens the file it's being read from the cache (not from the = server if there were no changes). Is there a way to force WebDAV not to cache files on local hdd? regards adam ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C59864.707E15B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi,

I wonder if it's possible to omit = cachnig in=20 WebDAV. Now if the file is once read from the server it's cached on the = client=20 hdd and next time the client opens the file it's being read from the = cache (not=20 from the server if there were no changes).

Is there a way to force WebDAV not to = cache files=20 on local hdd?

regards

adam

------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C59864.707E15B0-- From w3c-dist-auth-request@frink.w3.org Wed Aug 03 13:59:25 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1E0NWX-00015R-78 for webdav-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Wed, 03 Aug 2005 13:59:25 -0400 Received: from frink.w3.org (frink.w3.org [128.30.52.16]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA03658 for ; Wed, 3 Aug 2005 13:59:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lists by frink.w3.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1E0NVI-0007lN-4p for w3c-dist-auth-dist@listhub.w3.org; Wed, 03 Aug 2005 17:58:08 +0000 Received: from maggie.w3.org ([193.51.208.68]) by frink.w3.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1E0NVG-0007ko-3V for w3c-dist-auth@listhub.w3.org; Wed, 03 Aug 2005 17:58:06 +0000 Received: from mail.gmx.de ([213.165.64.20] helo=mail.gmx.net) by maggie.w3.org with smtp (Exim 4.50) id 1E0NVE-0005QU-DX for w3c-dist-auth@w3.org; Wed, 03 Aug 2005 17:58:07 +0000 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 03 Aug 2005 17:58:01 -0000 Received: from p508FA397.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO [192.168.178.21]) [80.143.163.151] by mail.gmx.net (mp001) with SMTP; 03 Aug 2005 19:58:01 +0200 X-Authenticated: #1915285 Message-ID: <42F105A4.80701@gmx.de> Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2005 19:57:56 +0200 From: Julian Reschke User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Adam Mrozowski CC: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org References: <000a01c59853$aeffe2c0$506fa8c0@dom.img.com.pl> In-Reply-To: <000a01c59853$aeffe2c0$506fa8c0@dom.img.com.pl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-W3C-Hub-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.0 X-W3C-Scan-Sig: maggie.w3.org 1E0NVE-0005QU-DX 870a9a0e442fd52ecd36573dc78d07be X-Original-To: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Subject: Re: Caching in WebDav X-Archived-At: http://www.w3.org/mid/42F105A4.80701@gmx.de Resent-From: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9779 X-Loop: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Resent-Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Precedence: list List-Id: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: Resent-Message-Id: Resent-Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2005 17:58:08 +0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Adam Mrozowski wrote: > Hi, > > I wonder if it's possible to omit cachnig in WebDAV. Now if the file is > once read from the server it's cached on the client hdd and next time > the client opens the file it's being read from the cache (not from the > server if there were no changes). > Is there a way to force WebDAV not to cache files on local hdd? WebDAV is an extension of HTTP, so whatever RFC2616 says about caching applies to WebDAV as well. Your question seems to be about a particular client, right? If you tell us which, somebody may be able to come up with a more helpful answer... Best regards, Julian From w3c-dist-auth-request@frink.w3.org Wed Aug 03 14:47:52 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1E0OHQ-0004mL-8q for webdav-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Wed, 03 Aug 2005 14:47:52 -0400 Received: from frink.w3.org (frink.w3.org [128.30.52.16]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA06080 for ; Wed, 3 Aug 2005 14:47:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lists by frink.w3.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1E0OG8-0007O4-AH for w3c-dist-auth-dist@listhub.w3.org; Wed, 03 Aug 2005 18:46:32 +0000 Received: from bart.w3.org ([128.30.52.40]) by frink.w3.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1E0OG6-0007NR-7U for w3c-dist-auth@listhub.w3.org; Wed, 03 Aug 2005 18:46:30 +0000 Received: from smtp4.poczta.onet.pl ([213.180.130.28]) by bart.w3.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1E0OG3-0002L2-AZ for w3c-dist-auth@w3.org; Wed, 03 Aug 2005 18:46:30 +0000 Received: from p54989847.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([84.152.152.71]:20964 "EHLO wsamz") by ps4.test.onet.pl with ESMTP id ; Wed, 3 Aug 2005 20:46:22 +0200 Message-ID: <000601c5985b$e5d14430$506fa8c0@dom.img.com.pl> From: "Adam Mrozowski" To: "Julian Reschke" Cc: Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2005 20:48:10 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-2"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-W3C-Hub-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 X-W3C-Scan-Sig: bart.w3.org 1E0OG3-0002L2-AZ 44b8ed97d0d38b11205742a9a0322e22 X-Original-To: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Subject: Re: Caching in WebDav X-Archived-At: http://www.w3.org/mid/000601c5985b$e5d14430$506fa8c0@dom.img.com.pl Resent-From: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9780 X-Loop: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Resent-Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Precedence: list List-Id: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: Resent-Message-Id: Resent-Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2005 18:46:32 +0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks for your quick answer:) You are rigth. I'm using xythos but I think that the problem is still on the protocol side. Let's concider the HTTP protocol. In HTTP header you may set if the page is to be cached or no. I'm thinking about setting it on the protocol side like in http header. Is it possible, because setting xythos not to cache is unfortunately not enough for me (I don't want to configure all xythos clients not to cache)? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Julian Reschke" > To: "Adam Mrozowski" > Cc: > Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 7:57 PM > Subject: Re: Caching in WebDav > > >> >> Adam Mrozowski wrote: >>> Hi, >>> I wonder if it's possible to omit cachnig in WebDAV. Now if the file is >>> once read from the server it's cached on the client hdd and next time >>> the client opens the file it's being read from the cache (not from the >>> server if there were no changes). >>> Is there a way to force WebDAV not to cache files on local hdd? >> >> WebDAV is an extension of HTTP, so whatever RFC2616 says about caching >> applies to WebDAV as well. >> >> Your question seems to be about a particular client, right? If you tell >> us which, somebody may be able to come up with a more helpful answer... >> >> Best regards, Julian >> > From w3c-dist-auth-request@frink.w3.org Wed Aug 03 14:58:14 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1E0ORS-00006o-7g for webdav-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Wed, 03 Aug 2005 14:58:14 -0400 Received: from frink.w3.org (frink.w3.org [128.30.52.16]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA06539 for ; Wed, 3 Aug 2005 14:58:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lists by frink.w3.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1E0OQ1-0000a7-IG for w3c-dist-auth-dist@listhub.w3.org; Wed, 03 Aug 2005 18:56:45 +0000 Received: from bart.w3.org ([128.30.52.40]) by frink.w3.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1E0OQ0-0000Yf-3a for w3c-dist-auth@listhub.w3.org; Wed, 03 Aug 2005 18:56:44 +0000 Received: from pop.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20] helo=mail.gmx.net) by bart.w3.org with smtp (Exim 4.50) id 1E0OPw-0003zA-MK for w3c-dist-auth@w3.org; Wed, 03 Aug 2005 18:56:43 +0000 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 03 Aug 2005 18:56:36 -0000 Received: from p508FA397.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO [192.168.178.21]) [80.143.163.151] by mail.gmx.net (mp019) with SMTP; 03 Aug 2005 20:56:36 +0200 X-Authenticated: #1915285 Message-ID: <42F1135D.5030700@gmx.de> Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2005 20:56:29 +0200 From: Julian Reschke User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Adam Mrozowski CC: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org References: <000601c5985b$e5d14430$506fa8c0@dom.img.com.pl> In-Reply-To: <000601c5985b$e5d14430$506fa8c0@dom.img.com.pl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-W3C-Hub-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 X-W3C-Scan-Sig: bart.w3.org 1E0OPw-0003zA-MK b7d851f8eb6ea751e96792913344c782 X-Original-To: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Subject: Re: Caching in WebDav X-Archived-At: http://www.w3.org/mid/42F1135D.5030700@gmx.de Resent-From: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9781 X-Loop: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Resent-Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Precedence: list List-Id: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: Resent-Message-Id: Resent-Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2005 18:56:45 +0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Adam Mrozowski wrote: > > Thanks for your quick answer:) > You are rigth. I'm using xythos but I think that the problem is still on > the protocol side. > Let's concider the HTTP protocol. In HTTP header you may set if the page is > to be cached or no. Same in WebDAV. > I'm thinking about setting it on the protocol side like in http header. Is > it possible, because setting xythos not to cache is unfortunately not > enough > for me (I don't want to configure all xythos clients not to cache)? I guess you'll have to talk to the Xythos support. As far as I remember, Xythos offers different levels of "sharing levels", which will probably affect caching. Best regards, Julian From w3c-dist-auth-request@frink.w3.org Wed Aug 03 15:31:38 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1E0Oxm-00032g-4O for webdav-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Wed, 03 Aug 2005 15:31:38 -0400 Received: from frink.w3.org (frink.w3.org [128.30.52.16]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id PAA09044 for ; Wed, 3 Aug 2005 15:31:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lists by frink.w3.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1E0Ow7-0007aR-Nn for w3c-dist-auth-dist@listhub.w3.org; Wed, 03 Aug 2005 19:29:55 +0000 Received: from lisa.w3.org ([128.30.52.41]) by frink.w3.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1E0Ow6-0007Zo-3G for w3c-dist-auth@listhub.w3.org; Wed, 03 Aug 2005 19:29:54 +0000 Received: from smtp1.poczta.onet.pl ([213.180.130.31]) by lisa.w3.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1E0Ow2-0008SH-5Q for w3c-dist-auth@w3.org; Wed, 03 Aug 2005 19:29:53 +0000 Received: from p54989847.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([84.152.152.71]:62179 "EHLO wsamz") by ps1.test.onet.pl with ESMTP id ; Wed, 3 Aug 2005 21:29:03 +0200 Message-ID: <000c01c59861$db987aa0$506fa8c0@dom.img.com.pl> From: "Adam Mrozowski" To: "Julian Reschke" Cc: References: <000601c5985b$e5d14430$506fa8c0@dom.img.com.pl> <42F1135D.5030700@gmx.de> Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2005 21:30:50 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-2"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-W3C-Hub-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 X-W3C-Scan-Sig: lisa.w3.org 1E0Ow2-0008SH-5Q b7248a709ad775227663d97aa21040e8 X-Original-To: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Subject: Re: Caching in WebDav X-Archived-At: http://www.w3.org/mid/000c01c59861$db987aa0$506fa8c0@dom.img.com.pl Resent-From: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9782 X-Loop: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Resent-Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Precedence: list List-Id: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: Resent-Message-Id: Resent-Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2005 19:29:55 +0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit OK So do you know Julian how to set the We ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julian Reschke" To: "Adam Mrozowski" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 8:56 PM Subject: Re: Caching in WebDav > > Adam Mrozowski wrote: >> >> Thanks for your quick answer:) >> You are rigth. I'm using xythos but I think that the problem is still on >> the protocol side. >> Let's concider the HTTP protocol. In HTTP header you may set if the page >> is >> to be cached or no. > > Same in WebDAV. if it's the same can you tell me how to set it? are there any standard markers that can be set outside xythos? > >> I'm thinking about setting it on the protocol side like in http header. >> Is >> it possible, because setting xythos not to cache is unfortunately not >> enough >> for me (I don't want to configure all xythos clients not to cache)? > > I guess you'll have to talk to the Xythos support. 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<000601c598dd$683befc0$506fa8c0@dom.img.com.pl> From: "Adam Mrozowski" To: "Julian Reschke" Cc: References: <000601c5985b$e5d14430$506fa8c0@dom.img.com.pl> <42F1135D.5030700@gmx.de> Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2005 12:15:14 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-2"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-W3C-Hub-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 X-W3C-Scan-Sig: maggie.w3.org 1E0cjf-0001tv-BK d87f0e33d3309bed6af4d2ea00964f27 X-Original-To: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Subject: Re: Caching in WebDav X-Archived-At: http://www.w3.org/mid/000601c598dd$683befc0$506fa8c0@dom.img.com.pl Resent-From: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9783 X-Loop: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Resent-Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Precedence: list List-Id: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: Resent-Message-Id: Resent-Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2005 10:14:05 +0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit So I've tried to set "Cache-Control: no-cache" in the header using simple response.setHeader("Cache-Control","no-cache"); the header is correctly added but the file is still saved on the local hdd. are there any other tags that must be set? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julian Reschke" To: "Adam Mrozowski" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 8:56 PM Subject: Re: Caching in WebDav > > Adam Mrozowski wrote: >> >> Thanks for your quick answer:) >> You are rigth. I'm using xythos but I think that the problem is still on >> the protocol side. >> Let's concider the HTTP protocol. In HTTP header you may set if the page >> is >> to be cached or no. > > Same in WebDAV. > >> I'm thinking about setting it on the protocol side like in http header. >> Is >> it possible, because setting xythos not to cache is unfortunately not >> enough >> for me (I don't want to configure all xythos clients not to cache)? > > I guess you'll have to talk to the Xythos support. As far as I remember, > Xythos offers different levels of "sharing levels", which will probably > affect caching. > > Best regards, Julian > From w3c-dist-auth-request@frink.w3.org Thu Aug 04 08:59:33 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1E0fJt-0006mA-2v for webdav-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Thu, 04 Aug 2005 08:59:33 -0400 Received: from frink.w3.org (frink.w3.org [128.30.52.16]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id IAA05572 for ; Thu, 4 Aug 2005 08:59:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lists by frink.w3.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1E0fIf-00060m-7o for w3c-dist-auth-dist@listhub.w3.org; Thu, 04 Aug 2005 12:58:17 +0000 Received: from maggie.w3.org ([193.51.208.68]) by frink.w3.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1E0fIc-0005zQ-Gu for w3c-dist-auth@listhub.w3.org; Thu, 04 Aug 2005 12:58:14 +0000 Received: from nproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.182.192]) by maggie.w3.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1E0fIX-0003ti-50 for w3c-dist-auth@w3.org; Thu, 04 Aug 2005 12:58:16 +0000 Received: by nproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id l37so84463nfc for ; Thu, 04 Aug 2005 05:58:06 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=hJzXyICSVqS/EVVrhCWp41vA/yw5XK7yIJWYaDF75lQPMAM303zBhk0TRbGbDjxoGkYc8IVmZbGiEP2V6ecauMQ5HOrwmdrjo/MurbCayahEJKXT9Qa3f2SICNUolAxmCN7lw8gjotbRTANSGD2R5v/ntdk5QKtfD+6KbvCqHLY= Received: by 10.48.1.18 with SMTP id 18mr59774nfa; Thu, 04 Aug 2005 05:58:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.3.2 with HTTP; Thu, 4 Aug 2005 05:58:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2005 14:58:06 +0200 From: Daniel Klein Reply-To: Daniel Klein To: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-W3C-Hub-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 X-W3C-Scan-Sig: maggie.w3.org 1E0fIX-0003ti-50 c44f6eaaefadd7c606b39c80489b62f0 X-Original-To: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Subject: .htaccess protected webdav folder inaccessible from windows only X-Archived-At: http://www.w3.org/mid/ba28b0400508040558542ff267@mail.gmail.com Resent-From: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9784 X-Loop: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Resent-Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Precedence: list List-Id: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: Resent-Message-Id: Resent-Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2005 12:58:17 +0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, first of all: I've searched for a general webdav discussion mailing list. This is the best I've come up with. After looking through the archives, I'm not sure if this is the proper place to ask webdav related questions--thus, if I'm intruding and in the wrong place altogether, please do let me know (and I'd be obliged if you could point me in the right direction) My problem is this: have a webdav activated folder (using mod_dav for apache 1.3.33) on my webserver. As long as I do not try to protect it, everything works fine: I can add it as a network resource in windows, I can access it from inside word, and if I do a "net use g: " in my commandline, it is properly accepted as a new drive. Now I placed a .htaccess file in the web_dav folder; the contents are as simple as they can be: AuthType Basic AuthName webdav AuthUserFile /home/dante/web_docs/dav_test/.htpasswd require valid-user The .htpasswd file has also been created and assigned proper rights. Accessing this folder with my webbrowser of choice causes a prompt for password, and upon entering the right password, I can see the content just fine. So I tried the same thing as before on windows; no dice. It would keep asking me for the password, no matter how often and how carefully I typed it. This was the same for net use and for creating a new network resource. My next test was to install Cadaver on a DIFFERENT linux server; I used it to connect to my webdav folder, entered username and password and got in just fine. Up and downloading worked perfectly. For a moment I was afraid windows might have issues with the crypted passwords (ridiculous as that sounds), so I changed the passwords in .htpasswd to clear text, but of course that didn't help either. So that's my situation: I can open the folder for viewing from Windows just fine; I can open it as a fully functional webdav folder from another LINUX box; logging in from Windows doesn't seem to work at all. I googled extensively for this (what's up with all the Chinese webdav pages? ;P); I couldn't find anything. Any help would be greatly appreciated! Daniel Klein From w3c-dist-auth-request@frink.w3.org Thu Aug 04 09:23:14 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1E0fgo-0007Lg-FJ for webdav-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Thu, 04 Aug 2005 09:23:14 -0400 Received: from frink.w3.org (frink.w3.org [128.30.52.16]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id JAA09432 for ; Thu, 4 Aug 2005 09:23:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lists by frink.w3.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1E0ffv-0004MD-UH for w3c-dist-auth-dist@listhub.w3.org; Thu, 04 Aug 2005 13:22:19 +0000 Received: from maggie.w3.org ([193.51.208.68]) by frink.w3.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1E0ffu-0004Ld-Ds for w3c-dist-auth@listhub.w3.org; Thu, 04 Aug 2005 13:22:18 +0000 Received: from nproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.182.203]) by maggie.w3.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1E0ffs-0006a8-RI for w3c-dist-auth@w3.org; Thu, 04 Aug 2005 13:22:20 +0000 Received: by nproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id l37so86087nfc for ; Thu, 04 Aug 2005 06:22:12 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=AjYl9WT71PQQFXv47INm2efTE+9RVGk8Khfwn75UwhG/j/j5XG4b30sNF898az7XsfW+z+y/RyIr1mpEA5srnuOmFWe3tvspy1hTPOptYgzTPRwMe4I7F7mjLrFtCm0sU6EUg8p8HzfVs1FkFW2gLWTMwOoYg4cwDf7JiJjgg4o= Received: by 10.48.239.18 with SMTP id m18mr60943nfh; Thu, 04 Aug 2005 06:22:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.3.2 with HTTP; Thu, 4 Aug 2005 06:22:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2005 15:22:12 +0200 From: Daniel Klein Reply-To: Daniel Klein To: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: X-W3C-Hub-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 X-W3C-Scan-Sig: maggie.w3.org 1E0ffs-0006a8-RI ab26ac43c4983755873435e01e2ba5c9 X-Original-To: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Subject: Re: .htaccess protected webdav folder inaccessible from windows only X-Archived-At: http://www.w3.org/mid/ba28b04005080406222b904406@mail.gmail.com Resent-From: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9785 X-Loop: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Resent-Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Precedence: list List-Id: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: Resent-Message-Id: Resent-Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2005 13:22:19 +0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable (a little update on this: I compiled cadaver in cygwin on the windows box in question, and it, too, connects fine; there must be something I'm doing wrong re: windows/password protected webdav) From w3c-dist-auth-request@frink.w3.org Thu Aug 04 12:20:51 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1E0iSh-0004O0-B8 for webdav-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Thu, 04 Aug 2005 12:20:51 -0400 Received: from frink.w3.org (frink.w3.org [128.30.52.16]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id MAA22769 for ; Thu, 4 Aug 2005 12:20:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lists by frink.w3.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1E0iRG-0006Hi-6F for w3c-dist-auth-dist@listhub.w3.org; Thu, 04 Aug 2005 16:19:22 +0000 Received: from bart.w3.org ([128.30.52.40]) by frink.w3.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1E0iRE-0006HA-8y for w3c-dist-auth@listhub.w3.org; Thu, 04 Aug 2005 16:19:20 +0000 Received: from laweleka.osafoundation.org ([204.152.186.98] helo=smtp.osafoundation.org) by bart.w3.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1E0iRB-0007TP-N9 for w3c-dist-auth@w3.org; Thu, 04 Aug 2005 16:19:20 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.osafoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09DF2142264; Thu, 4 Aug 2005 09:19:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.osafoundation.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (laweleka.osafoundation.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 28879-01; Thu, 4 Aug 2005 09:19:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from open-29-67.ietf63.ietf.org (open-26-179.ietf63.ietf.org [86.255.26.179]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.osafoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE4E1142262; Thu, 4 Aug 2005 09:19:15 -0700 (PDT) To: "Daniel Klein" , w3c-dist-auth@w3.org References: Message-ID: From: "Lisa Dusseault" Organization: OSAF Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=iso-8859-15 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2005 18:19:07 +0200 In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Opera M2/8.01 (MacPPC, build 2092) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new and clamav at osafoundation.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-W3C-Hub-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 X-W3C-Scan-Sig: bart.w3.org 1E0iRB-0007TP-N9 e12793cdbe06f8d5d7775256fc95d8a2 X-Original-To: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Subject: Re: .htaccess protected webdav folder inaccessible from windows only X-Archived-At: http://www.w3.org/mid/op.suzrl5o1eochem@open-29-67.ietf63.ietf.org Resent-From: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9786 X-Loop: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Resent-Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Precedence: list List-Id: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: Resent-Message-Id: Resent-Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2005 16:19:22 +0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 04 Aug 2005 14:58:06 +0200, Daniel Klein wrote= : > > I googled extensively for this (what's up with all the Chinese webdav > pages? ;P); I couldn't find anything. > Well I don't know if you were seeing Chinese or Japanese Web sites with =20 kanji, but I can tell you that WebDAV is Big In Japan -- I just got a cop= y =20 of a WebDAV howto book in Japanese from a friend. Very cool. Lisa From w3c-dist-auth-request@frink.w3.org Thu Aug 04 14:14:23 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1E0kEZ-0007AQ-GR for webdav-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Thu, 04 Aug 2005 14:14:23 -0400 Received: from frink.w3.org (frink.w3.org [128.30.52.16]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA27755 for ; Thu, 4 Aug 2005 14:14:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lists by frink.w3.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1E0kDC-0007Bd-RL for w3c-dist-auth-dist@listhub.w3.org; Thu, 04 Aug 2005 18:12:58 +0000 Received: from bart.w3.org ([128.30.52.40]) by frink.w3.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1E0kDA-0007B5-Mv for w3c-dist-auth@listhub.w3.org; Thu, 04 Aug 2005 18:12:56 +0000 Received: from scanner2.ics.uci.edu ([128.195.1.36]) by bart.w3.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1E0kCp-0000FF-Ol for w3c-dist-auth@w3.org; Thu, 04 Aug 2005 18:12:55 +0000 Received: from [128.195.20.215] (doric.ics.uci.edu [128.195.20.215]) by scanner2.ics.uci.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j74IBmKE012666; Thu, 4 Aug 2005 11:11:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <42F25A64.3010606@ics.uci.edu> Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2005 11:11:48 -0700 From: Joachim Feise User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.2; en-US; rv:1.7.10) Gecko/20050716 Thunderbird/1.0.6 Mnenhy/0.7.2.0 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en, de MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Daniel Klein CC: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ICS-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ICS-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam (whitelisted), SpamAssassin (score=-100, required 5, USER_IN_WHITELIST) X-W3C-Hub-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 X-W3C-Scan-Sig: bart.w3.org 1E0kCp-0000FF-Ol 0d364c987f000f312e14dc7d6aa11558 X-Original-To: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Subject: Re: .htaccess protected webdav folder inaccessible from windows only X-Archived-At: http://www.w3.org/mid/42F25A64.3010606@ics.uci.edu Resent-From: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9787 X-Loop: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Resent-Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Precedence: list List-Id: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: Resent-Message-Id: Resent-Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2005 18:12:58 +0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Daniel Klein wrote on 8/4/2005 5:58: > > So that's my situation: I can open the folder for viewing from Windows > just fine; I can open it as a fully functional webdav folder from > another LINUX box; logging in from Windows doesn't seem to work at > all. > > I googled extensively for this (what's up with all the Chinese webdav > pages? ;P); I couldn't find anything. Maybe this helps: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;315621&Product=winxp There is an Apache module to strip the domain from the username: http://www.luluware.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=13&Itemid=38 -Joe From w3c-dist-auth-request@frink.w3.org Sat Aug 06 08:20:11 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1E1Net-0004FJ-81 for webdav-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Sat, 06 Aug 2005 08:20:11 -0400 Received: from frink.w3.org (frink.w3.org [128.30.52.16]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id IAA20312 for ; Sat, 6 Aug 2005 08:20:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lists by frink.w3.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1E1NcI-0004Ax-8O for w3c-dist-auth-dist@listhub.w3.org; Sat, 06 Aug 2005 12:17:30 +0000 Received: from lisa.w3.org ([128.30.52.41]) by frink.w3.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1E1NcH-00049u-1k for w3c-dist-auth@listhub.w3.org; Sat, 06 Aug 2005 12:17:29 +0000 Received: from server3.software-ag.de ([193.26.193.89]) by lisa.w3.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1E1Nc9-0000Rj-7C for w3c-dist-auth@w3.org; Sat, 06 Aug 2005 12:17:28 +0000 Received: from server3.software-ag.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.software-ag.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8804D61CD2 for ; Sat, 6 Aug 2005 14:17:12 +0200 (CEST) Received: from DAEMSG03.eur.ad.sag (daemsg03a.eur.ad.sag [10.20.160.61]) by server3.software-ag.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 763075FD9A for ; Sat, 6 Aug 2005 14:17:12 +0200 (CEST) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C59A80.C684A46B" Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2005 14:17:12 +0200 Message-ID: <4A56A7900065A44BB559A2C929597BB7426791@DAEMSG03.eur.ad.sag> Thread-Topic: Question about XML parsing or validating errors Thread-Index: AcWagMY581BarkXJTrKh0qql2CsVsQ== From: "Weber, Heiko" To: X-W3C-Hub-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 X-W3C-Scan-Sig: lisa.w3.org 1E1Nc9-0000Rj-7C ca42f9c08474f4f826c47dbfabf4a034 X-Original-To: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Subject: Question about XML parsing or validating errors X-Archived-At: http://www.w3.org/mid/4A56A7900065A44BB559A2C929597BB7426791@DAEMSG03.eur.ad.sag Resent-From: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9788 X-Loop: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Resent-Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Precedence: list List-Id: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: Resent-Message-Id: Resent-Date: Sat, 06 Aug 2005 12:17:30 +0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C59A80.C684A46B Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, =20 I'm sure this has already been discussed on this list before, but somehow I could not find anything right away about it. =20 Many WebDAV requests require XML in the body for input. Besides the values of the input being incorrect, there might also be more fundamental problems when the input is either not well-formed or does not validate against the schemas describing the input format. How should a WebDAV server respond in the case of such a fundamental error? Is there some DAV:error description for that scenario, or should the server just respond with a 400 or a 422? =20 Can someone point me to some specs or postings where this has been defined or mentioned? =20 thanks, Heiko =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C59A80.C684A46B Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hello,

I’m sure this has already been discussed on = this list before, but somehow I could not find anything right away about = it.

Many WebDAV requests require XML in the body for = input. Besides the values of the input being incorrect, there might also be = more fundamental problems when the input is either not well-formed or does = not validate against the schemas describing the input format. How should a = WebDAV server respond in the case of such a fundamental error? Is there some = DAV:error description for that scenario, or should the server just respond with a = 400 or a 422?

Can someone point me to some specs or postings where = this has been defined or mentioned?

thanks,

Heiko

------_=_NextPart_001_01C59A80.C684A46B-- From w3c-dist-auth-request@frink.w3.org Sat Aug 06 09:28:18 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1E1Oio-0001Pj-NL for webdav-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Sat, 06 Aug 2005 09:28:18 -0400 Received: from frink.w3.org (frink.w3.org [128.30.52.16]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id JAA22662 for ; Sat, 6 Aug 2005 09:28:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lists by frink.w3.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1E1OhX-0005r8-H1 for w3c-dist-auth-dist@listhub.w3.org; Sat, 06 Aug 2005 13:26:59 +0000 Received: from maggie.w3.org ([193.51.208.68]) by frink.w3.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1E1OhV-0005qa-HQ for w3c-dist-auth@listhub.w3.org; Sat, 06 Aug 2005 13:26:57 +0000 Received: from pop.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20] helo=mail.gmx.net) by maggie.w3.org with smtp (Exim 4.50) id 1E1OhS-0005Pl-RX for w3c-dist-auth@w3.org; Sat, 06 Aug 2005 13:26:59 +0000 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 06 Aug 2005 13:26:52 -0000 Received: from p508F8F4F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO [192.168.178.21]) [80.143.143.79] by mail.gmx.net (mp021) with SMTP; 06 Aug 2005 15:26:52 +0200 X-Authenticated: #1915285 Message-ID: <42F4BA89.2040002@gmx.de> Date: Sat, 06 Aug 2005 15:26:33 +0200 From: Julian Reschke User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Weber, Heiko" CC: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org References: <4A56A7900065A44BB559A2C929597BB7426791@DAEMSG03.eur.ad.sag> In-Reply-To: <4A56A7900065A44BB559A2C929597BB7426791@DAEMSG03.eur.ad.sag> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-W3C-Hub-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 X-W3C-Scan-Sig: maggie.w3.org 1E1OhS-0005Pl-RX 44fc7009b475aeb8c6ecccf46b8387e9 X-Original-To: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Subject: Re: Question about XML parsing or validating errors X-Archived-At: http://www.w3.org/mid/42F4BA89.2040002@gmx.de Resent-From: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9789 X-Loop: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Resent-Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Precedence: list List-Id: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: Resent-Message-Id: Resent-Date: Sat, 06 Aug 2005 13:26:59 +0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by ietf.org id JAA22662 Weber, Heiko wrote: > I=92m sure this has already been discussed on this list before, but=20 > somehow I could not find anything right away about it. >=20 > =20 >=20 > Many WebDAV requests require XML in the body for input. Besides the=20 > values of the input being incorrect, there might also be more=20 > fundamental problems when the input is either not well-formed or does=20 > not validate against the schemas describing the input format. How shoul= d=20 > a WebDAV server respond in the case of such a fundamental error? Is=20 > there some DAV:error description for that scenario, or should the serve= r=20 > just respond with a 400 or a 422? Looking at ,=20 422 seems to be wrong; so you probably should use just 400. There's no=20 DAV:error code for this condition (yet) -- our server sends a custom=20 code for parsing errors. > ... Best regards, Julian From w3c-dist-auth-request@frink.w3.org Sun Aug 07 10:26:40 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1E1m6q-0000fG-Aq for webdav-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Sun, 07 Aug 2005 10:26:40 -0400 Received: from frink.w3.org (frink.w3.org [128.30.52.16]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA09461 for ; Sun, 7 Aug 2005 10:26:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lists by frink.w3.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1E1m4K-0007tA-Hb for w3c-dist-auth-dist@listhub.w3.org; Sun, 07 Aug 2005 14:24:04 +0000 Received: from maggie.w3.org ([193.51.208.68]) by frink.w3.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1E1m4I-0007s0-V3 for w3c-dist-auth@listhub.w3.org; Sun, 07 Aug 2005 14:24:03 +0000 Received: from mail.gmx.de ([213.165.64.20] helo=mail.gmx.net) by maggie.w3.org with smtp (Exim 4.50) id 1E1m49-0005am-Bw for w3c-dist-auth@w3.org; Sun, 07 Aug 2005 14:24:04 +0000 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 07 Aug 2005 14:23:50 -0000 Received: from p508FB2BD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO [192.168.178.21]) [80.143.178.189] by mail.gmx.net (mp022) with SMTP; 07 Aug 2005 16:23:50 +0200 X-Authenticated: #1915285 Message-ID: <42F61966.6070106@gmx.de> Date: Sun, 07 Aug 2005 16:23:34 +0200 From: Julian Reschke User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org References: <42EA22DF.6000805@gmx.de> In-Reply-To: <42EA22DF.6000805@gmx.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-W3C-Hub-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 X-W3C-Scan-Sig: maggie.w3.org 1E1m49-0005am-Bw 20967485f72eaa10e9d4462824a64eb1 X-Original-To: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Subject: Re: Request for comments: draft-reschke-webdav-mount-latest X-Archived-At: http://www.w3.org/mid/42F61966.6070106@gmx.de Resent-From: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9790 X-Loop: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Resent-Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Precedence: list List-Id: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: Resent-Message-Id: Resent-Date: Sun, 07 Aug 2005 14:24:04 +0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Julian Reschke wrote: > Hi, > > this document > () > describes an extremely simple and platform/browser independant > protocol/format for WebDAV servers to instruct the local webdav client > to mount a specific URL and open a window (for a child collection of > it). We intend to support this format in future SAP Netweaver releases, > but it's designed to be open and extensible (thus we're choosing the > IETF process). > > Server implementation is trivial; at this point we're mainly looking for > the feedback from client programmers (Jim L., are you listening??? :-). > > Note: the draft hasn't been submitted to the IETF yet (because of the > forthcoming IETF meeting). Hi, in the meantime I added some stuff (optional user name, security considerations...); and submitted an initial draft. Edits will continue on . Best regards, Julian From w3c-dist-auth-request@frink.w3.org Tue Aug 09 07:43:49 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1E2SWL-0007Dy-6e for webdav-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Tue, 09 Aug 2005 07:43:49 -0400 Received: from frink.w3.org (frink.w3.org [128.30.52.16]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id HAA00194 for ; Tue, 9 Aug 2005 07:43:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lists by frink.w3.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1E2STs-0005ht-5q for w3c-dist-auth-dist@listhub.w3.org; Tue, 09 Aug 2005 11:41:16 +0000 Received: from lisa.w3.org ([128.30.52.41]) by frink.w3.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1E2STp-0005h7-J9 for w3c-dist-auth@listhub.w3.org; Tue, 09 Aug 2005 11:41:13 +0000 Received: from pop.gmx.de ([213.165.64.20] helo=mail.gmx.net) by lisa.w3.org with smtp (Exim 4.50) id 1E2STh-0007dv-UF for w3c-dist-auth@w3.org; Tue, 09 Aug 2005 11:41:13 +0000 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 09 Aug 2005 11:41:04 -0000 Received: from p508FAAA5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO [192.168.178.21]) [80.143.170.165] by mail.gmx.net (mp023) with SMTP; 09 Aug 2005 13:41:04 +0200 X-Authenticated: #1915285 Message-ID: <42F89643.4030807@gmx.de> Date: Tue, 09 Aug 2005 13:40:51 +0200 From: Julian Reschke User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John Baumgarten CC: WebDav References:

In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-W3C-Hub-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 X-W3C-Scan-Sig: lisa.w3.org 1E2STh-0007dv-UF 96e5b7c923c45c21d6d695c465f911c5 X-Original-To: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Subject: Re: WGLC draft-ietf-webdav-redirectref-protocol-12 X-Archived-At: http://www.w3.org/mid/42F89643.4030807@gmx.de Resent-From: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9791 X-Loop: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Resent-Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Precedence: list List-Id: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: Resent-Message-Id: Resent-Date: Tue, 09 Aug 2005 11:41:16 +0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit John Baumgarten wrote: > > All- > > After reviewing this draft, I have decided that the protocol is too > complex for our needs with .Mac. In particular, the failure of locking > methods that contain redirected resources would confuse our clients. > Instead, we have decided to implement a simpler redirect capability via > a custom property (not a WebDAV resource type) that is only activated > when indicated by the client request. > > Given this decision, I will not be able to provide specific feedback on > the draft. > ... (added as issue -- sorry for the long delay). 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1E4Qku-0005op-RM for w3c-dist-auth@w3.org; Sun, 14 Aug 2005 22:15:07 +0000 Received: from sj-core-5.cisco.com (171.71.177.238) by sj-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 14 Aug 2005 15:15:00 -0700 X-IronPort-AV: i="3.96,106,1122879600"; d="scan'208"; a="654691856:sNHT28364088" Received: from sea-alpha-e2k3.sea-alpha.cisco.com (sea-alpha-e2k3.cisco.com [10.93.132.88]) by sj-core-5.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id j7EMEVpE011508; Sun, 14 Aug 2005 15:14:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([171.68.225.134]) by sea-alpha-e2k3.sea-alpha.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Sun, 14 Aug 2005 15:19:35 -0700 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.1.0.040913 Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 11:25:47 -0700 From: Cullen Jennings To: WebDav CC: Julian Reschke Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Aug 2005 22:19:35.0306 (UTC) FILETIME=[407EA6A0:01C5A11E] X-W3C-Hub-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 X-W3C-Scan-Sig: lisa.w3.org 1E4Qku-0005op-RM f3343b45c66a22c9e225e878607febb6 X-Original-To: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Subject: Redirect summary X-Archived-At: http://www.w3.org/mid/BF24DABB.4BD84%25fluffy@cisco.com Resent-From: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9794 X-Loop: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Resent-Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Precedence: list List-Id: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: Resent-Message-Id: Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 22:15:07 +0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've traced through my email both to the list and private and tried to put together the following key points out Redirect. There are some people that want to be able to solve this problem. There are multiple ways that it could be solved with, I have received email about at least three that are in use. Some people feel the approach proposed in the redirect draft is too complex and do not plan to use it. Some people feel the functionality in the redirect draft is not enough and specifically it does not address authoring of tree-mappings or pattern matching. There are extremely limited number of implementations or groups that intend to implement this draft. We can barely find anyone to review it. There are some issues involving locking that could probably be refined in the draft but that is not the big issue. The points above lead me down the following line of thinking... I'm having a hard time coming to the conclusion that a significant portion of the community feels this is the best approach. However, it is an approach, it works, and if nothing is documented, the community may never converge on any interoperable approach so there is value in documenting this approach. http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-iesg-info-exp-01.txt has some information about experimental and informational I'd like to get the WG feedback about moving this forward as "Experimental". Note that this would not stop this approach from becoming standards track it it became clear over time that it was the approach that the community wanted to recommend for solving this problem. Cullen From w3c-dist-auth-request@frink.w3.org Sun Aug 14 18:18:10 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1E4Qny-0007l5-4f for webdav-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Sun, 14 Aug 2005 18:18:10 -0400 Received: from frink.w3.org (frink.w3.org [128.30.52.16]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id SAA15928 for ; Sun, 14 Aug 2005 18:18:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lists by frink.w3.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1E4Qke-0007a7-0m for w3c-dist-auth-dist@listhub.w3.org; Sun, 14 Aug 2005 22:14:44 +0000 Received: from lisa.w3.org ([128.30.52.41]) by frink.w3.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1E4Qkc-0007Yo-Ed for w3c-dist-auth@listhub.w3.org; Sun, 14 Aug 2005 22:14:42 +0000 Received: from sj-iport-3-in.cisco.com ([171.71.176.72] helo=sj-iport-3.cisco.com) by lisa.w3.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1E4QkZ-0005my-NJ for w3c-dist-auth@w3.org; Sun, 14 Aug 2005 22:14:42 +0000 Received: from sj-core-5.cisco.com (171.71.177.238) by sj-iport-3.cisco.com with ESMTP; 14 Aug 2005 15:14:38 -0700 X-IronPort-AV: i="3.96,106,1122879600"; d="scan'208"; a="332120300:sNHT31555640" Received: from sea-alpha-e2k3.sea-alpha.cisco.com (sea-alpha-e2k3.cisco.com [10.93.132.88]) by sj-core-5.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id j7EMEVos011508; Sun, 14 Aug 2005 15:14:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([171.68.225.134]) by sea-alpha-e2k3.sea-alpha.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Sun, 14 Aug 2005 15:19:20 -0700 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.1.0.040913 Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 09:12:41 -0700 From: Cullen Jennings To: Lisa Dusseault , Julian Reschke , WebDav Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Aug 2005 22:19:20.0587 (UTC) FILETIME=[37B8B5B0:01C5A11E] X-W3C-Hub-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 X-W3C-Scan-Sig: lisa.w3.org 1E4QkZ-0005my-NJ 0429b2a6e2b39001c04e7a7820b68ad4 X-Original-To: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Subject: Re: RFC2518bis, was: BIND and live property value consistency X-Archived-At: http://www.w3.org/mid/BF24BB89.4BD74%25fluffy@cisco.com Resent-From: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9792 X-Loop: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Resent-Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Precedence: list List-Id: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: Resent-Message-Id: Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 22:14:44 +0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 7/8/05 2:57 PM, "Lisa Dusseault" wrote: >> >> So what's your proposal how we the WG should proceed. In particular, >> what about the state of the issues list I asked about? >> > That's up to Cullen, and I don't know the state of the issues list except > that it's out-of-date. I was trying to get bind and redirect out the door before jumping into 2518 but ... I hoping to get this done with the underlying principle being make the AD's job as easy as possible and after that make the Chair's job as easy as possible :-) 1) So first thing is to get a draft we can talk about, Lisa submitted a rev so we have that. 2) Next is we need to figure out the things people want to change and why. Note I said things people want to change not things people don't like. Complaints without proposal to fix are not as useful as ways to resolve problems. I don't care how the editor of any document wants to keep track of these but I do expect them to be reported to the editor in a way that at least shows up on the email list. 3) I imagine most of these the WG will come to 100% agreement on and I can completely ignore. 4) On the issues where one or more members of the WG disagree, I will want to start an email thread on each issue and try and drive it to consensus. This thread will need to develop enough information that I can provide a useful summary to the ADs and information about why I called or did not call consensus on the topic. If there are so many of these that we can't keep track of them via email threads, then there is clearly no hope of consensus and I will probably recommend not moving the document forward as a WG item. (I'm fine if there are a 100 issues at step 3 but I hope there are less than 10 that make it to step 4). Cullen From w3c-dist-auth-request@frink.w3.org Sun Aug 14 18:18:12 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1E4Qnx-0007l3-Vr for webdav-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Sun, 14 Aug 2005 18:18:12 -0400 Received: from frink.w3.org (frink.w3.org [128.30.52.16]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id SAA15926 for ; Sun, 14 Aug 2005 18:18:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lists by frink.w3.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1E4Qkm-0007aa-Gm for w3c-dist-auth-dist@listhub.w3.org; Sun, 14 Aug 2005 22:14:52 +0000 Received: from lisa.w3.org ([128.30.52.41]) by frink.w3.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1E4Qkd-0007Ze-Sk for w3c-dist-auth@listhub.w3.org; Sun, 14 Aug 2005 22:14:43 +0000 Received: from sj-iport-2-in.cisco.com ([171.71.176.71] helo=sj-iport-2.cisco.com) by lisa.w3.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1E4Qkb-0005nD-Kd for w3c-dist-auth@w3.org; Sun, 14 Aug 2005 22:14:43 +0000 Received: from sj-core-5.cisco.com (171.71.177.238) by sj-iport-2.cisco.com with ESMTP; 14 Aug 2005 15:14:41 -0700 Received: from sea-alpha-e2k3.sea-alpha.cisco.com (sea-alpha-e2k3.cisco.com [10.93.132.88]) by sj-core-5.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id j7EMEVou011508; Sun, 14 Aug 2005 15:14:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([171.68.225.134]) by sea-alpha-e2k3.sea-alpha.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Sun, 14 Aug 2005 15:19:22 -0700 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.1.0.040913 Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 09:40:09 -0700 From: Cullen Jennings To: Julian Reschke , Lisa Dusseault CC: Geoffrey M Clemm , WebDav Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <42CEB89F.2000206@gmx.de> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Aug 2005 22:19:22.0400 (UTC) FILETIME=[38CD5A00:01C5A11E] X-W3C-Hub-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.4 X-W3C-Scan-Sig: lisa.w3.org 1E4Qkb-0005nD-Kd a62f359f63f68e236de1da2c1329decf X-Original-To: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Subject: Re: BIND and live property value consistency X-Archived-At: http://www.w3.org/mid/BF24C1F9.4BD76%25fluffy@cisco.com Resent-From: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9793 X-Loop: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Resent-Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Precedence: list List-Id: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: Resent-Message-Id: Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 22:14:52 +0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 7/8/05 1:32 PM, "Julian Reschke" wrote: > to summarize: Lisa prefers to either delay BIND (by making it depend on > RFC2518bis), or to duplicate explanations (that will need to go into > RFC2518bis anyway). Geoff and I think that the draft as currently > proposed is clear enough, and that none of the alternatives proposed by > Lisa are better (Geoff, you'll correct me if I'm wrong here). I am very negative on a solution that duplicates normative text in two documents. It is surprisingly difficult to keep it all in sync. (Note I'm not against non normative duplication but that's a different story) Cullen From w3c-dist-auth-request@frink.w3.org Tue Aug 16 17:44:06 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1E59E6-0002rI-Qg for webdav-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Tue, 16 Aug 2005 17:44:06 -0400 Received: from frink.w3.org (frink.w3.org [128.30.52.16]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id RAA14096 for ; Tue, 16 Aug 2005 17:44:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lists by frink.w3.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1E59Br-0000dZ-2i for w3c-dist-auth-dist@listhub.w3.org; Tue, 16 Aug 2005 21:41:47 +0000 Received: from lisa.w3.org ([128.30.52.41]) by frink.w3.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1E59Bm-0000ZB-Gw; Tue, 16 Aug 2005 21:41:42 +0000 Received: from [201.34.214.226] (helo=home) by lisa.w3.org with smtp (Exim 4.50) id 1E59Be-0005Vp-8g; Tue, 16 Aug 2005 21:41:38 +0000 From: "duerst" To: "duerst" Date: Tue, 16 Aug 05 18:39:51 Hora oficial do Brasil MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed;boundary= "----=_NextPart_000_003C_E51C9893.A3DBE2BC" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 X-Antivirus: avast! 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=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Wilfredo_S=E1nchez_Vega?= Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 09:14:38 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.734) X-W3C-Hub-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.4 X-W3C-Scan-Sig: lisa.w3.org 1E5n2U-0008Ad-6h 670fdc4f9466b1b2321f8db09eba04df X-Original-To: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Subject: If-Match header question X-Archived-At: http://www.w3.org/mid/DE99579A-03F6-4F9E-8FCC-F93082B4F2E3@wsanchez.net Resent-From: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9796 X-Loop: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Resent-Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Precedence: list List-Id: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: Resent-Message-Id: Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 16:14:53 +0000 --Apple-Mail-6-45591624 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit RFC 2068 12.25 says that for the If-Match header, one should respond with 412 (precondition failed) if the header doesn't match up with the ETag of the resource. OK, cool. However, it goes on to say that if, without the If-Match header, the request would have resulted in a 200-series response, that the header must be ignored. This is a little tricky. For example, if a PUT request would error out due to a filesystem permissions issue, the only way for me to find that out is to attempt to write the file. If that works, I'd then have to back out the change and respond with a 412. That seems like a lot of extra work there. There are many less expensive to detect error cases, such as forbidden do the auth config, etc., which presumably is what this line is chasing after, but even these cases seems like a lot of code. Without that requirement, I can do an If-Modified test on all resources for all requests right away and respond with a 412 if appropriate. This language seems to imply that I instead have to put logic into each method which attempts the request and responds with 412 instead of a success code after potentially backing out the operation. 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Mon, 22 Aug 2005 01:30:38 -0400 Received: from frink.w3.org (frink.w3.org [128.30.52.16]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id BAA09602 for ; Mon, 22 Aug 2005 01:30:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lists by frink.w3.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1E74rr-0005oo-VC for w3c-dist-auth-dist@listhub.w3.org; Mon, 22 Aug 2005 05:29:07 +0000 Received: from maggie.w3.org ([193.51.208.68]) by frink.w3.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1E74rn-0005oA-K5 for w3c-dist-auth@listhub.w3.org; Mon, 22 Aug 2005 05:29:03 +0000 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by maggie.w3.org with smtp (Exim 4.50) id 1E74rk-0004Su-MP for w3c-dist-auth@w3.org; Mon, 22 Aug 2005 05:29:05 +0000 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 22 Aug 2005 05:28:57 -0000 Received: from p508FB137.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO [192.168.178.21]) [80.143.177.55] by mail.gmx.net (mp012) with SMTP; 22 Aug 2005 07:28:57 +0200 X-Authenticated: #1915285 Message-ID: <43096298.7050603@gmx.de> Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2005 07:28:56 +0200 From: Julian Reschke User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Cullen Jennings CC: WebDav References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-W3C-Hub-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 X-W3C-Scan-Sig: maggie.w3.org 1E74rk-0004Su-MP 3761b0b6fd877ee8c3989487864b0bbc X-Original-To: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Subject: Re: Redirect summary X-Archived-At: http://www.w3.org/mid/43096298.7050603@gmx.de Resent-From: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9798 X-Loop: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Resent-Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Precedence: list List-Id: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: Resent-Message-Id: Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2005 05:29:07 +0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cullen Jennings wrote: > ... > I'd like to get the WG feedback about moving this forward as "Experimental". > Note that this would not stop this approach from becoming standards track it > it became clear over time that it was the approach that the community wanted > to recommend for solving this problem. I think that would be the right approach. However, before proceeding, I'd like to fix the Depth header vs Apply-To-Redirect-Ref issue that Jake B. reported (trying to get this done this week). Best regards, Julian From w3c-dist-auth-request@frink.w3.org Mon Aug 22 01:30:38 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1E74tK-0006vn-AZ for webdav-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Mon, 22 Aug 2005 01:30:38 -0400 Received: from frink.w3.org (frink.w3.org [128.30.52.16]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id BAA09601 for ; Mon, 22 Aug 2005 01:30:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lists by frink.w3.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1E74r0-0005nR-I9 for w3c-dist-auth-dist@listhub.w3.org; Mon, 22 Aug 2005 05:28:14 +0000 Received: from maggie.w3.org ([193.51.208.68]) by frink.w3.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1E74qw-0005mK-Ml for w3c-dist-auth@listhub.w3.org; Mon, 22 Aug 2005 05:28:10 +0000 Received: from mail.gmx.de ([213.165.64.20] helo=mail.gmx.net) by maggie.w3.org with smtp (Exim 4.50) id 1E74qr-0004O0-LR for w3c-dist-auth@w3.org; Mon, 22 Aug 2005 05:28:12 +0000 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 22 Aug 2005 05:27:02 -0000 Received: from p508FB137.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO [192.168.178.21]) [80.143.177.55] by mail.gmx.net (mp006) with SMTP; 22 Aug 2005 07:27:02 +0200 X-Authenticated: #1915285 Message-ID: <43096225.2030902@gmx.de> Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2005 07:27:01 +0200 From: Julian Reschke User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Cullen Jennings CC: Lisa Dusseault , WebDav References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-W3C-Hub-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.4 X-W3C-Scan-Sig: maggie.w3.org 1E74qr-0004O0-LR d0d1418037ddd8611024c1c144c48860 X-Original-To: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Subject: Re: RFC2518bis, was: BIND and live property value consistency X-Archived-At: http://www.w3.org/mid/43096225.2030902@gmx.de Resent-From: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9797 X-Loop: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Resent-Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Precedence: list List-Id: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: Resent-Message-Id: Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2005 05:28:14 +0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cullen Jennings wrote: > 2) Next is we need to figure out the things people want to change and why. > Note I said things people want to change not things people don't like. > Complaints without proposal to fix are not as useful as ways to resolve > problems. I don't care how the editor of any document wants to keep track of > these but I do expect them to be reported to the editor in a way that at > least shows up on the email list. > ... So can we please consider the union of and as current issues list? Best regards, Julian From w3c-dist-auth-request@frink.w3.org Mon Aug 22 15:28:51 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1E7HyT-0005au-K8 for webdav-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Mon, 22 Aug 2005 15:28:51 -0400 Received: from frink.w3.org (frink.w3.org [128.30.52.16]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id PAA07729 for ; Mon, 22 Aug 2005 15:28:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lists by frink.w3.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1E7Hvf-000472-Sg for w3c-dist-auth-dist@listhub.w3.org; Mon, 22 Aug 2005 19:25:55 +0000 Received: from maggie.w3.org ([193.51.208.68]) by frink.w3.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1E7Hva-00046N-Ea for w3c-dist-auth@listhub.w3.org; Mon, 22 Aug 2005 19:25:50 +0000 Received: from mxout-04.mxes.net ([205.237.194.35]) by maggie.w3.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1E7HvW-0004Za-TS for w3c-dist-auth@w3.org; Mon, 22 Aug 2005 19:25:52 +0000 Received: from [172.16.1.2] (unknown [63.96.167.98]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 892F2A32BA for ; Mon, 22 Aug 2005 15:25:42 -0400 (EDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v734) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <52BBE3D3-210D-4F8E-885F-6A2F4657BC48@mnot.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Image-Url: http://www.mnot.net/personal/MarkNottingham.jpg From: Mark Nottingham Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2005 12:25:38 -0700 To: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.734) X-W3C-Hub-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 X-W3C-Scan-Sig: maggie.w3.org 1E7HvW-0004Za-TS 42745d7d83e1cb03d01b112a897d0ed4 X-Original-To: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Subject: extend production X-Archived-At: http://www.w3.org/mid/52BBE3D3-210D-4F8E-885F-6A2F4657BC48@mnot.net Resent-From: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9799 X-Loop: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Resent-Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Precedence: list List-Id: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: Resent-Message-Id: Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2005 19:25:55 +0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Where is the BNF for the 'extend' production, used in section 9.1 of 2518 - DAV = "DAV" ":" "1" ["," "2"] ["," 1#extend] I searched 2518 and 2068 with no luck. Cheers, -- Mark Nottingham http://www.mnot.net/ From w3c-dist-auth-request@frink.w3.org Mon Aug 22 17:48:11 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1E7K9L-00067c-H5 for webdav-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Mon, 22 Aug 2005 17:48:11 -0400 Received: from frink.w3.org (frink.w3.org [128.30.52.16]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id RAA22673 for ; Mon, 22 Aug 2005 17:48:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lists by frink.w3.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1E7K8C-0006iA-1I for w3c-dist-auth-dist@listhub.w3.org; Mon, 22 Aug 2005 21:47:00 +0000 Received: from maggie.w3.org ([193.51.208.68]) by frink.w3.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1E7JvJ-0002Gt-H6 for w3c-dist-auth@listhub.w3.org; Mon, 22 Aug 2005 21:33:41 +0000 Received: from mail-out3.apple.com ([17.254.13.22]) by maggie.w3.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1E7JVv-0007KB-Oy for w3c-dist-auth@w3.org; Mon, 22 Aug 2005 21:07:41 +0000 Received: from mailgate2.apple.com (a17-128-100-204.apple.com [17.128.100.204]) by mail-out3.apple.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j7ML7HhT004775 for ; Mon, 22 Aug 2005 14:07:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay4.apple.com (relay4.apple.com) by mailgate2.apple.com (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.3.17) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 22 Aug 2005 14:07:17 -0700 Received: from [17.203.113.212] (luthji.apple.com [17.203.113.212]) by relay4.apple.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j7ML7H0F017132 for ; Mon, 22 Aug 2005 14:07:17 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v733) In-Reply-To: <52BBE3D3-210D-4F8E-885F-6A2F4657BC48@mnot.net> References: <52BBE3D3-210D-4F8E-885F-6A2F4657BC48@mnot.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Jim Luther Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2005 14:07:52 -0700 To: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.733) X-W3C-Hub-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 X-W3C-Scan-Sig: maggie.w3.org 1E7JVv-0007KB-Oy d28c697c5568e700e40ca3f31dfd33f1 X-Original-To: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Subject: Re: extend production X-Archived-At: http://www.w3.org/mid/CF660B98-AB89-4760-8D08-76ABEC32E28F@apple.com Resent-From: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9800 X-Loop: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Resent-Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Precedence: list List-Id: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: Resent-Message-Id: Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2005 21:47:00 +0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The 2518 bis draft has the BNF for that. It's: DAV = "DAV" ":" #( compliance-code ) compliance-code = ( "1" | "2" | "bis" | extend ) extend = Coded-URL | token - Jim On Aug 22, 2005, at 12:25 PM, Mark Nottingham wrote: > > Where is the BNF for the 'extend' production, used in section 9.1 > of 2518 - > DAV = "DAV" ":" "1" ["," "2"] ["," 1#extend] > > I searched 2518 and 2068 with no luck. > > Cheers, > > -- > Mark Nottingham http://www.mnot.net/ > > > From w3c-dist-auth-request@frink.w3.org Mon Aug 22 17:52:52 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1E7KDr-0006yM-Ip for webdav-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Mon, 22 Aug 2005 17:52:52 -0400 Received: from frink.w3.org (frink.w3.org [128.30.52.16]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id RAA22766 for ; Mon, 22 Aug 2005 17:52:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lists by frink.w3.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1E7KDG-0007S9-Vx for w3c-dist-auth-dist@listhub.w3.org; Mon, 22 Aug 2005 21:52:14 +0000 Received: from lisa.w3.org ([128.30.52.41]) by frink.w3.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1E7KDE-0007Ra-DD for w3c-dist-auth@listhub.w3.org; Mon, 22 Aug 2005 21:52:12 +0000 Received: from smtp4.es.uci.edu ([128.200.80.7]) by lisa.w3.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1E7KD8-00085w-Gh for w3c-dist-auth@w3.org; Mon, 22 Aug 2005 21:52:12 +0000 Received: from [128.195.105.84] (pv105084.reshsg.uci.edu [128.195.105.84]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp4.es.uci.edu (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j7MLpppU021383 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 22 Aug 2005 14:51:52 -0700 X-UCInetID: jfeise Message-ID: <430A4A23.9040505@ics.uci.edu> Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2005 14:56:51 -0700 From: Joachim Feise Reply-To: jfeise@ics.uci.edu Organization: University of California, Irvine User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.10) Gecko/20050716 Thunderbird/1.0.6 Mnenhy/0.7.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en, de MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark Nottingham CC: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org References: <52BBE3D3-210D-4F8E-885F-6A2F4657BC48@mnot.net> In-Reply-To: <52BBE3D3-210D-4F8E-885F-6A2F4657BC48@mnot.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.92.0.0 X-Message: MS Outlook is evil. X-Face: ".VkfaZ'q>9U9_]JOTykMM^88emlx:rG{m-5JHhsQ~\Cj43sZOq"rZTWsJG+%+R8#r_/o 6-TIJFfgXwgkDmCFG-v/3Gkt%k3%HwA#d&j6.R,7gb?UXNP0B;\npi/_a>x"(RyBjiOw*I.;8=.l {N[OuH;-p8LW0>]4$OW!z`-!Iy%2^?v9r.hn6$R+,dpC_zU+}91L{x_!4PK,P7\mv)`w{h(QTE)Z ?(p>OgR}}e!`'4jJ`b|$?lppz@wmLaLi[ Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAHlBMVEUNEwyOlI2nraUABQD N08x9g3xRV1Ds8usABAAAAgBs7OnJAAACQ0lEQVR4nF2TMW/cMAyFBRgQkFFGlF2EjawCBBTJmIN ar/U10uxLYu4NXGgtkMXZOvb+bZ9k52KX8HDmd3yUyGdxXmJ+c0JUzt2t72fxAZDP4f4Ha15Ud3v wZlcg7CeYEb+RYoQU1f0OWCF5DCHyIHbgDfmglNJxEGsTkdPOCeRrMiqwqLbAirGvicjkkgtwzlk eFeUwgeX9BkhGQeMPRJrl1R6Qz0EmcvW+BcemgMMK5jkPDmCsV0CRn5cKAOv4E9zwsEo59yRkuAC dwZ+rs4DQ47PsN0Cg4r2AFwActksTmi/gXIB1slwj+YNSIVbz/L4AZ2XfqxpKRukdEFEdm3LzxoQ 43P+dM7Co0ErdnMiTYkgNsMQMcMLydN1i6lST0n0cZFHBljMwRAdSeCgO1uHWIjOp86EMqcYTZSl RnlKB+xWAYX3P/3XlHnYDzAY4F/I6TNOWuf+wdgWVGwvwGWh+ttXSw1WVzIB822RQXQBGosu1QwZ DPs3afGx6HNSYQM0hAMCoVRn75AMsFeoQ6gwEjIoaJ6+T1zXmSjooEwZ4exBSfMFWU2ph3KBCBqe mBWBx7BJ29zUcMS1CXXzxU8xS3qfUpZ/jkbJ54epb71uGlJ9SmtIrhzx1WHdMnX/QkUUHgIhjbRQ h8YgXmIJFzoJ9g62Visy3eM/b/wC/8CFgrczdAnwBiFfmHp35tAfwWuSADuMxFTBdKlLLWShcF+k teIAO+nSlotuAV3QYVVEC+GyeklK9Uo/l57QDMLRalEr7f0PUUat8ZcMkAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-NACS_ES-MailScanner: No viruses found X-MailScanner-From: jfeise@ics.uci.edu X-W3C-Hub-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 X-W3C-Scan-Sig: lisa.w3.org 1E7KD8-00085w-Gh 9dc8d33bbb9a78101a7d48faed00de08 X-Original-To: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Subject: Re: extend production X-Archived-At: http://www.w3.org/mid/430A4A23.9040505@ics.uci.edu Resent-From: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9801 X-Loop: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Resent-Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Precedence: list List-Id: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: Resent-Message-Id: Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2005 21:52:14 +0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mark Nottingham wrote on 08/22/05 12:25: > Where is the BNF for the 'extend' production, used in section 9.1 of > 2518 - > DAV = "DAV" ":" "1" ["," "2"] ["," 1#extend] > > I searched 2518 and 2068 with no luck. Undefined in 2518, see http://www.webdav.org/wg/rfcdev/issues.htm #49. It is defined in the current draft: http://greenbytes.de/tech/webdav/draft-ietf-webdav-rfc2518bis-07.html -Joe From w3c-dist-auth-request@frink.w3.org Mon Aug 22 20:59:44 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1E7N8g-0007gB-5N for webdav-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Mon, 22 Aug 2005 20:59:44 -0400 Received: from frink.w3.org (frink.w3.org [128.30.52.16]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id UAA08071 for ; Mon, 22 Aug 2005 20:59:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lists by frink.w3.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1E7N7H-0007RW-5j for w3c-dist-auth-dist@listhub.w3.org; Tue, 23 Aug 2005 00:58:15 +0000 Received: from maggie.w3.org ([193.51.208.68]) by frink.w3.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1E7N7E-0007Qr-13 for w3c-dist-auth@listhub.w3.org; Tue, 23 Aug 2005 00:58:12 +0000 Received: from mxout-04.mxes.net ([205.237.194.35]) by maggie.w3.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1E7N75-0007vd-Uy for w3c-dist-auth@w3.org; Tue, 23 Aug 2005 00:58:13 +0000 Received: from [172.16.1.2] (adsl-67-119-69-243.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net [67.119.69.243]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1726BA32D5; Mon, 22 Aug 2005 20:57:59 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <430A4A23.9040505@ics.uci.edu> References: <52BBE3D3-210D-4F8E-885F-6A2F4657BC48@mnot.net> <430A4A23.9040505@ics.uci.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v734) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <72FF9747-BA19-4725-BE4F-FA54A3DF98BE@mnot.net> Cc: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Image-Url: http://www.mnot.net/personal/MarkNottingham.jpg From: Mark Nottingham Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2005 17:57:57 -0700 To: jfeise@ics.uci.edu X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.734) X-W3C-Hub-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 X-W3C-Scan-Sig: maggie.w3.org 1E7N75-0007vd-Uy 52f2957ee46193f73babf2975f12c8b3 X-Original-To: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Subject: Re: extend production X-Archived-At: http://www.w3.org/mid/72FF9747-BA19-4725-BE4F-FA54A3DF98BE@mnot.net Resent-From: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9802 X-Loop: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Resent-Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Precedence: list List-Id: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: Resent-Message-Id: Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2005 00:58:15 +0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks to both you and Jim; that's what I needed. BTW, if 2518 is undergoing revision, the HTTP header registrations should be updated (or made; I think I see a new one in there?); see RFC3864/BCP90. Cheers, On 22/08/2005, at 2:56 PM, Joachim Feise wrote: > > Mark Nottingham wrote on 08/22/05 12:25: > > >> Where is the BNF for the 'extend' production, used in section 9.1 of >> 2518 - >> DAV = "DAV" ":" "1" ["," "2"] ["," 1#extend] >> >> I searched 2518 and 2068 with no luck. >> > > > Undefined in 2518, see http://www.webdav.org/wg/rfcdev/issues.htm #49. > It is defined in the current draft: > http://greenbytes.de/tech/webdav/draft-ietf-webdav-rfc2518bis-07.html > > -Joe > > > -- Mark Nottingham http://www.mnot.net/ From w3c-dist-auth-request@frink.w3.org Tue Aug 23 12:15:35 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1E7bQx-0000Xb-09 for webdav-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Tue, 23 Aug 2005 12:15:35 -0400 Received: from frink.w3.org (frink.w3.org [128.30.52.16]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id MAA12809 for ; Tue, 23 Aug 2005 12:15:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lists by frink.w3.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1E7bOd-0003MS-N5 for w3c-dist-auth-dist@listhub.w3.org; Tue, 23 Aug 2005 16:13:07 +0000 Received: from lisa.w3.org ([128.30.52.41]) by frink.w3.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1E7bOX-0003Lf-85 for w3c-dist-auth@listhub.w3.org; Tue, 23 Aug 2005 16:13:01 +0000 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by lisa.w3.org with smtp (Exim 4.50) id 1E7bOU-0005Xi-K8 for w3c-dist-auth@w3c.org; Tue, 23 Aug 2005 16:13:01 +0000 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 23 Aug 2005 16:11:57 -0000 Received: from pd95b7d02.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO [192.168.1.40]) [217.91.125.2] by mail.gmx.net (mp033) with SMTP; 23 Aug 2005 18:11:57 +0200 X-Authenticated: #1915285 Message-ID: <430B4AC4.2090802@gmx.de> Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2005 18:11:48 +0200 From: Julian Reschke User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Wilfredo_S=E1nchez_Vega?= CC: Webdav WG References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Received-SPF: pass (lisa.w3.org: domain of julian.reschke@gmx.de designates 213.165.64.20 as permitted sender) X-W3C-Hub-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 X-W3C-Scan-Sig: lisa.w3.org 1E7bOU-0005Xi-K8 df427326f89d380d3e7b24b3ba967931 X-Original-To: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Subject: Re: If-Match header question X-Archived-At: http://www.w3.org/mid/430B4AC4.2090802@gmx.de Resent-From: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9803 X-Loop: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Resent-Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Precedence: list List-Id: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: Resent-Message-Id: Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2005 16:13:07 +0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by ietf.org id MAA12809 Wilfredo S=E1nchez Vega wrote: > RFC 2068 12.25 says that for the If-Match header, one should respond= =20 > with 412 (precondition failed) if the header doesn't match up with the= =20 > ETag of the resource. OK, cool. Actually, what's relevant is RFC2616 which obsoletes RFC2068. > However, it goes on to say that if, without the If-Match header, the= =20 > request would have resulted in a 200-series response, that the header=20 > must be ignored. ..other than a 2xx or a 412=20 (): "If the request would, without the If-Match header field, result in=20 anything other than a 2xx or 412 status, then the If-Match header MUST=20 be ignored." So this has indeed been fixed. > ... Best regards, Julian From w3c-dist-auth-request@frink.w3.org Tue Aug 23 13:02:57 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1E7cAq-00041t-R4 for webdav-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Tue, 23 Aug 2005 13:02:57 -0400 Received: from frink.w3.org (frink.w3.org [128.30.52.16]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA15691 for ; Tue, 23 Aug 2005 13:02:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lists by frink.w3.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1E7c9u-0006dm-6d for w3c-dist-auth-dist@listhub.w3.org; Tue, 23 Aug 2005 17:01:58 +0000 Received: from lisa.w3.org ([128.30.52.41]) by frink.w3.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1E7c9n-0006d9-SA for w3c-dist-auth@listhub.w3.org; Tue, 23 Aug 2005 17:01:51 +0000 Received: from mail-out3.apple.com ([17.254.13.22]) by lisa.w3.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1E7c9j-0003Kw-NW for w3c-dist-auth@w3c.org; Tue, 23 Aug 2005 17:01:51 +0000 Received: from mailgate1.apple.com (a17-128-100-225.apple.com [17.128.100.225]) by mail-out3.apple.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j7NH1XCT008525 for ; Tue, 23 Aug 2005 10:01:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay3.apple.com (relay3.apple.com) by mailgate1.apple.com (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.3.17) with ESMTP id ; Tue, 23 Aug 2005 10:01:32 -0700 Received: from [17.221.42.43] (pucca.apple.com [17.221.42.43]) by relay3.apple.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j7NH1WPs010782; Tue, 23 Aug 2005 10:01:32 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <430B4AC4.2090802@gmx.de> References: <430B4AC4.2090802@gmx.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v734) Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=sha1; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-480403268; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature" Message-Id: <8FAD64B5-6962-4717-AD82-2A40BCFFE0E6@wsanchez.net> Cc: Webdav WG From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Wilfredo_S=E1nchez_Vega?= Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2005 10:01:30 -0700 To: Julian Reschke X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.734) Received-SPF: none (lisa.w3.org: domain of wsanchez@wsanchez.net does not designate permitted sender hosts) X-W3C-Hub-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.0 X-W3C-Scan-Sig: lisa.w3.org 1E7c9j-0003Kw-NW 1fe58a923fdc3bce9e9e59caef8f4b05 X-Original-To: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Subject: Re: If-Match header question X-Archived-At: http://www.w3.org/mid/8FAD64B5-6962-4717-AD82-2A40BCFFE0E6@wsanchez.net Resent-From: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9804 X-Loop: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Resent-Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Precedence: list List-Id: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: Resent-Message-Id: Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2005 17:01:58 +0000 --Apple-Mail-1-480403268 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Aug 23, 2005, at 9:11 AM, Julian Reschke wrote: > Wilfredo S=E1nchez Vega wrote: > >> RFC 2068 12.25 says that for the If-Match header, one should =20 >> respond with 412 (precondition failed) if the header doesn't match =20= >> up with the ETag of the resource. OK, cool. > > Actually, what's relevant is RFC2616 which obsoletes RFC2068. Yes. >> However, it goes on to say that if, without the If-Match =20 >> header, the request would have resulted in a 200-series response, =20= >> that the header must be ignored. > > ..other than a 2xx or a 412 ( rfc2616.html#rfc.section.14.24.p.6>): > > "If the request would, without the If-Match header field, result in =20= > anything other than a 2xx or 412 status, then the If-Match header =20 > MUST be ignored." > > So this has indeed been fixed. No, my concern isn't about 412. My concern is about any other =20 possible error, such as permission errors, or other errors specific =20 to the operation being requested. In the case of PUT, if the PUT =20 would fail due to a filesystem error which would result in an error =20 response (for example, disk is full and a 507 is appropriate), the =20 spec as written requires that I ignore the If-Match header. The problem is that in some cases, the only way to know what the =20 error condition would be is to actually try the operation. Doing so =20 could be expensive, and could require restoring everything back to =20 its original state when you find out that there is, in fact, no =20 error, which is presumably the most common case. -wsv --Apple-Mail-1-480403268 Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature; name=smime.p7s Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=smime.p7s Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAQAAoIIIzDCCAz8w ggKooAMCAQICAQ0wDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEFBQAwgdExCzAJBgNVBAYTAlpBMRUwEwYDVQQIEwxXZXN0 ZXJuIENhcGUxEjAQBgNVBAcTCUNhcGUgVG93bjEaMBgGA1UEChMRVGhhd3RlIENvbnN1bHRpbmcx KDAmBgNVBAsTH0NlcnRpZmljYXRpb24gU2VydmljZXMgRGl2aXNpb24xJDAiBgNVBAMTG1RoYXd0 ZSBQZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBDQTErMCkGCSqGSIb3DQEJARYccGVyc29uYWwtZnJlZW1haWxA dGhhd3RlLmNvbTAeFw0wMzA3MTcwMDAwMDBaFw0xMzA3MTYyMzU5NTlaMGIxCzAJBgNVBAYTAlpB MSUwIwYDVQQKExxUaGF3dGUgQ29uc3VsdGluZyAoUHR5KSBMdGQuMSwwKgYDVQQDEyNUaGF3dGUg UGVyc29uYWwgRnJlZW1haWwgSXNzdWluZyBDQTCBnzANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQEFAAOBjQAwgYkCgYEA xKY8VXNV+065yplaHmjAdQRwnd/p/6Me7L3N9VvyGna9fww6YfK/Uc4B1OVQCjDXAmNaLIkVcI7d yfArhVqqP3FWy688Cwfn8R+RNiQqE88r1fOCdz0Dviv+uxg+B79AgAJk16emu59l0cUqVIUPSAR/ p7bRPGEEQB5kGXJgt/sCAwEAAaOBlDCBkTASBgNVHRMBAf8ECDAGAQH/AgEAMEMGA1UdHwQ8MDow OKA2oDSGMmh0dHA6Ly9jcmwudGhhd3RlLmNvbS9UaGF3dGVQZXJzb25hbEZyZWVtYWlsQ0EuY3Js MAsGA1UdDwQEAwIBBjApBgNVHREEIjAgpB4wHDEaMBgGA1UEAxMRUHJpdmF0ZUxhYmVsMi0xMzgw DQYJKoZIhvcNAQEFBQADgYEASIzRUIPqCy7MDaNmrGcPf6+svsIXoUOWlJ1/TCG4+DYfqi2fNi/A 9BxQIJNwPP2t4WFiw9k6GX6EsZkbAMUaC4J0niVQlGLH2ydxVyWN3amcOY6MIE9lX5Xa9/eH1sYI Tq726jTlEBpbNU1341YheILcIRk13iSx0x1G/11fZU8wggWFMIIE7qADAgECAgMNZZAwDQYJKoZI hvcNAQEEBQAwYjELMAkGA1UEBhMCWkExJTAjBgNVBAoTHFRoYXd0ZSBDb25zdWx0aW5nIChQdHkp IEx0ZC4xLDAqBgNVBAMTI1RoYXd0ZSBQZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBJc3N1aW5nIENBMB4XDTA0 MTExMDAyMjkyN1oXDTA1MTExMDAyMjkyN1owggH/MRUwEwYDVQQEEwxTYW5jaGV6IFZlZ2ExETAP BgNVBCoTCFdpbGZyZWRvMR4wHAYDVQQDExVXaWxmcmVkbyBTYW5jaGV6IFZlZ2ExJDAiBgkqhkiG 9w0BCQEWFXdzYW5jaGV6QHdzYW5jaGV6Lm5ldDEhMB8GCSqGSIb3DQEJARYSd3NhbmNoZXpAYXBw bGUuY29tMSIwIAYJKoZIhvcNAQkBFhN3c2FuY2hlekBhcGFjaGUub3JnMR8wHQYJKoZIhvcNAQkB FhB3c2FuY2hlekBtaXQuZWR1MSQwIgYJKoZIhvcNAQkBFhV3c2FuY2hlekBhbHVtLm1pdC5lZHUx IzAhBgkqhkiG9w0BCQEWFHdzYW5jaGV6QGZyZWVic2Qub3JnMSIwIAYJKoZIhvcNAQkBFhN3c2Fu Y2hlekBuZXRic2Qub3JnMR0wGwYJKoZIhvcNAQkBFg50cml0YW5AbWl0LmVkdTEsMCoGCSqGSIb3 DQEJARYdd3NhbmNoZXpAcHJldHR5Z29vZHBsYW5lcy5jb20xJzAlBgkqhkiG9w0BCQEWGHdzYW5j aGV6QGZyZWVtZXRob2RzLm9yZzEfMB0GCSqGSIb3DQEJARYQdG9vbEByYW5nZXJzLm9yZzEfMB0G CSqGSIb3DQEJARYQd3NhbmNoZXpAbWFjLmNvbTCCASIwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEBBQADggEPADCCAQoC ggEBAMdR8Xdk0klE2zVpa5NJPNI1rz1kTWtpPqCz0/h9oI5cdpw8OiJpfD/7npvxTKQk564YwikW wIZ9zkE1Nu9twStukxQb6D8QdAKk+4SVgkDZm62rHBJBoLoBpW9O5qTkHtvuWMVCRuCZW4lAJYdp vZ9FkGrLssn+rBV99LYZPc2D7Y0y4XoAoqvGu1rjkRNXftm49PXXHth/wlgzSiaC7f27M8s7IhuC fcvp04iMok3id03+blIKwmcH7Nb1L7X3wok+5JMhTa1txGds1m9AqN9nb3zav30GEO0LXU2Y7PMV 8De6TYU3cJD95BfATGEx7JhxrPXwKBCbiJDc5dsMPhcCAwEAAaOCASQwggEgMIIBDgYDVR0RBIIB BTCCAQGBFXdzYW5jaGV6QHdzYW5jaGV6Lm5ldIESd3NhbmNoZXpAYXBwbGUuY29tgRN3c2FuY2hl ekBhcGFjaGUub3JngRB3c2FuY2hlekBtaXQuZWR1gRV3c2FuY2hlekBhbHVtLm1pdC5lZHWBFHdz YW5jaGV6QGZyZWVic2Qub3JngRN3c2FuY2hlekBuZXRic2Qub3JngQ50cml0YW5AbWl0LmVkdYEd d3NhbmNoZXpAcHJldHR5Z29vZHBsYW5lcy5jb22BGHdzYW5jaGV6QGZyZWVtZXRob2RzLm9yZ4EQ dG9vbEByYW5nZXJzLm9yZ4EQd3NhbmNoZXpAbWFjLmNvbTAMBgNVHRMBAf8EAjAAMA0GCSqGSIb3 DQEBBAUAA4GBAGtqmsTpUyTIYFCMtTwEM0wg/l0Ul/EOTzfSx9CUni9i32m2DF8h5801L+64LOl8 XawvtrVmE7HCFF3d33/lNd9nmLrGAdEvG7yr++FJ1059puTTgqUChZBL+xkHZp8Yu9d5yPtGxeHZ E3Ke+6t+UuSS9OV8pt2VmzjKwTGjJtJLMYIC5zCCAuMCAQEwaTBiMQswCQYDVQQGEwJaQTElMCMG A1UEChMcVGhhd3RlIENvbnN1bHRpbmcgKFB0eSkgTHRkLjEsMCoGA1UEAxMjVGhhd3RlIFBlcnNv bmFsIEZyZWVtYWlsIElzc3VpbmcgQ0ECAw1lkDAJBgUrDgMCGgUAoIIBUzAYBgkqhkiG9w0BCQMx CwYJKoZIhvcNAQcBMBwGCSqGSIb3DQEJBTEPFw0wNTA4MjMxNzAxMzFaMCMGCSqGSIb3DQEJBDEW BBRdQJeFtSUhVggBYOPn9LoZgKTUsTB4BgkrBgEEAYI3EAQxazBpMGIxCzAJBgNVBAYTAlpBMSUw IwYDVQQKExxUaGF3dGUgQ29uc3VsdGluZyAoUHR5KSBMdGQuMSwwKgYDVQQDEyNUaGF3dGUgUGVy c29uYWwgRnJlZW1haWwgSXNzdWluZyBDQQIDDWWQMHoGCyqGSIb3DQEJEAILMWugaTBiMQswCQYD VQQGEwJaQTElMCMGA1UEChMcVGhhd3RlIENvbnN1bHRpbmcgKFB0eSkgTHRkLjEsMCoGA1UEAxMj VGhhd3RlIFBlcnNvbmFsIEZyZWVtYWlsIElzc3VpbmcgQ0ECAw1lkDANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQEFAASC AQAqAFT3LH7u/MKG85T9VZy1c3ywSYnJD14Q7cfBg4iRkQ2Ou+tc4V2Fhwme9Mcwn9gTuQE4wJXL C6csW0urpwCUuvd6VoYhQ7qycuosTFu8YrSQsR8was/x5imgqwDFZYHOg3qT68T7PX6bVbiWbett lYdOIYv9nIA9Vp1ezvRUN5ixes2+1kvukTMQ2J2EBUX8fLwnP0PsPgGYQWZOaEiMpunuBR1PtBoM OsXQUzGBKkv0ErzYPmByjcEpvgGAxMBXAK1SdTID54VWVYKpthCP4Cmxpi4IIi/KHU27f1z/7IHi 5HIogiD+Dnyh8O5ePDFeIdW0GpE/b8BeU0TxTujTAAAAAAAA --Apple-Mail-1-480403268-- From w3c-dist-auth-request@frink.w3.org Tue Aug 23 13:11:39 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1E7cJH-0006TN-C8 for webdav-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Tue, 23 Aug 2005 13:11:39 -0400 Received: from frink.w3.org (frink.w3.org [128.30.52.16]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA16217 for ; Tue, 23 Aug 2005 13:11:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lists by frink.w3.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1E7cIa-0000Ys-PH for w3c-dist-auth-dist@listhub.w3.org; Tue, 23 Aug 2005 17:10:56 +0000 Received: from lisa.w3.org ([128.30.52.41]) by frink.w3.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1E7cIa-0000YA-0T for w3c-dist-auth@listhub.w3.org; Tue, 23 Aug 2005 17:10:56 +0000 Received: from pop.gmx.de ([213.165.64.20] helo=mail.gmx.net) by lisa.w3.org with smtp (Exim 4.50) id 1E7cIV-0005gG-6J for w3c-dist-auth@w3c.org; Tue, 23 Aug 2005 17:10:54 +0000 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 23 Aug 2005 17:09:46 -0000 Received: from mail.greenbytes.de (EHLO [192.168.1.40]) [217.5.201.10] by mail.gmx.net (mp030) with SMTP; 23 Aug 2005 19:09:46 +0200 X-Authenticated: #1915285 Message-ID: <430B5856.9090505@gmx.de> Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2005 19:09:42 +0200 From: Julian Reschke User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Wilfredo_S=E1nchez_Vega?= CC: Webdav WG References: <430B4AC4.2090802@gmx.de> <8FAD64B5-6962-4717-AD82-2A40BCFFE0E6@wsanchez.net> In-Reply-To: <8FAD64B5-6962-4717-AD82-2A40BCFFE0E6@wsanchez.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Received-SPF: pass (lisa.w3.org: domain of julian.reschke@gmx.de designates 213.165.64.20 as permitted sender) X-W3C-Hub-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 X-W3C-Scan-Sig: lisa.w3.org 1E7cIV-0005gG-6J 74cbd9f5a79a043ed95cca628c150631 X-Original-To: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Subject: Re: If-Match header question X-Archived-At: http://www.w3.org/mid/430B5856.9090505@gmx.de Resent-From: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9805 X-Loop: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Resent-Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Precedence: list List-Id: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: Resent-Message-Id: Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2005 17:10:56 +0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by ietf.org id NAA16217 Wilfredo S=E1nchez Vega wrote: >>> However, it goes on to say that if, without the If-Match header, =20 >>> the request would have resulted in a 200-series response, that the =20 >>> header must be ignored. >> >> >> ..other than a 2xx or a 412 (> rfc2616.html#rfc.section.14.24.p.6>): >> >> "If the request would, without the If-Match header field, result in =20 >> anything other than a 2xx or 412 status, then the If-Match header =20 >> MUST be ignored." >> >> So this has indeed been fixed. >=20 >=20 > No, my concern isn't about 412. My concern is about any other =20 I see. I thought that including the 412 into the sentence would resolve=20 the issue, but it doesn't :-) > possible error, such as permission errors, or other errors specific to= =20 > the operation being requested. In the case of PUT, if the PUT would=20 > fail due to a filesystem error which would result in an error response= =20 > (for example, disk is full and a 507 is appropriate), the spec as=20 > written requires that I ignore the If-Match header. Yes. > The problem is that in some cases, the only way to know what the =20 > error condition would be is to actually try the operation. Doing so =20 > could be expensive, and could require restoring everything back to its= =20 > original state when you find out that there is, in fact, no error,=20 > which is presumably the most common case. I absolutely agree, and I don't think anybody actually implements this=20 per spec. You probably should report this to the HTTP WG=20 (). Best regards, Julian From w3c-dist-auth-request@frink.w3.org Tue Aug 23 13:34:39 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1E7cfX-00033p-6m for webdav-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Tue, 23 Aug 2005 13:34:39 -0400 Received: from frink.w3.org (frink.w3.org [128.30.52.16]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA17383 for ; Tue, 23 Aug 2005 13:34:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lists by frink.w3.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1E7ceQ-0000wu-CP for w3c-dist-auth-dist@listhub.w3.org; Tue, 23 Aug 2005 17:33:30 +0000 Received: from maggie.w3.org ([193.51.208.68]) by frink.w3.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1E7ceL-0000wM-NP for w3c-dist-auth@listhub.w3.org; Tue, 23 Aug 2005 17:33:25 +0000 Received: from mail.gmx.de ([213.165.64.20] helo=mail.gmx.net) by maggie.w3.org with smtp (Exim 4.50) id 1E7ceH-00021q-G9 for w3c-dist-auth@w3.org; Tue, 23 Aug 2005 17:33:27 +0000 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 23 Aug 2005 17:33:11 -0000 Received: from mail.greenbytes.de (EHLO [192.168.1.40]) [217.5.201.10] by mail.gmx.net (mp022) with SMTP; 23 Aug 2005 19:33:11 +0200 X-Authenticated: #1915285 Message-ID: <430B5DD6.7090601@gmx.de> Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2005 19:33:10 +0200 From: Julian Reschke User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jim Luther CC: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org References: <52BBE3D3-210D-4F8E-885F-6A2F4657BC48@mnot.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Received-SPF: pass (maggie.w3.org: domain of julian.reschke@gmx.de designates 213.165.64.20 as permitted sender) X-W3C-Hub-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.4 X-W3C-Scan-Sig: maggie.w3.org 1E7ceH-00021q-G9 4f04856ddf2851128aac4fc7f372d54e X-Original-To: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Subject: Re: extend production X-Archived-At: http://www.w3.org/mid/430B5DD6.7090601@gmx.de Resent-From: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9806 X-Loop: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Resent-Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Precedence: list List-Id: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: Resent-Message-Id: Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2005 17:33:30 +0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jim Luther wrote: > > The 2518 bis draft has the BNF for that. It's: > > DAV = "DAV" ":" #( compliance-code ) > compliance-code = ( "1" | "2" | "bis" | extend ) > extend = Coded-URL | token > > - Jim In fact, this is one of these changes where a fix (extend) has been combined with a *change* (compared to RFC2518). I'm not really opposed to that change, but I'd really prefer is these kinds of changes would indeed be discussed on the mailing list... Best regards, Julian From w3c-dist-auth-request@frink.w3.org Tue Aug 23 13:35:09 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1E7cg0-0003K9-S7 for webdav-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Tue, 23 Aug 2005 13:35:09 -0400 Received: from frink.w3.org (frink.w3.org [128.30.52.16]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA17402 for ; Tue, 23 Aug 2005 13:35:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lists by frink.w3.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1E7cfU-0001io-QF for w3c-dist-auth-dist@listhub.w3.org; Tue, 23 Aug 2005 17:34:36 +0000 Received: from lisa.w3.org ([128.30.52.41]) by frink.w3.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1E7cfQ-0001hS-V0 for w3c-dist-auth@listhub.w3.org; Tue, 23 Aug 2005 17:34:32 +0000 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by lisa.w3.org with smtp (Exim 4.50) id 1E7cfM-0005PR-9D for w3c-dist-auth@w3.org; Tue, 23 Aug 2005 17:34:32 +0000 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 23 Aug 2005 17:34:26 -0000 Received: from mail.greenbytes.de (EHLO [192.168.1.40]) [217.5.201.10] by mail.gmx.net (mp018) with SMTP; 23 Aug 2005 19:34:26 +0200 X-Authenticated: #1915285 Message-ID: <430B5E20.5000104@gmx.de> Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2005 19:34:24 +0200 From: Julian Reschke User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark Nottingham CC: jfeise@ics.uci.edu, w3c-dist-auth@w3.org, Cullen Jennings References: <52BBE3D3-210D-4F8E-885F-6A2F4657BC48@mnot.net> <430A4A23.9040505@ics.uci.edu> <72FF9747-BA19-4725-BE4F-FA54A3DF98BE@mnot.net> In-Reply-To: <72FF9747-BA19-4725-BE4F-FA54A3DF98BE@mnot.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Received-SPF: pass (lisa.w3.org: domain of julian.reschke@gmx.de designates 213.165.64.20 as permitted sender) X-W3C-Hub-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.0 X-W3C-Scan-Sig: lisa.w3.org 1E7cfM-0005PR-9D 2efd3cae5e8a2b2e9801789384dbde15 X-Original-To: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Subject: Re: extend production X-Archived-At: http://www.w3.org/mid/430B5E20.5000104@gmx.de Resent-From: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9807 X-Loop: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Resent-Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Precedence: list List-Id: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: Resent-Message-Id: Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2005 17:34:36 +0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mark Nottingham wrote: > > Thanks to both you and Jim; that's what I needed. > > BTW, if 2518 is undergoing revision, the HTTP header registrations > should be updated (or made; I think I see a new one in there?); see > RFC3864/BCP90. As a matter of fact, this also applies to BIND and REDIRECT. Cullen, should I do that for BIND right away (I don't think we'll need another WGLC for that...). Best regards, Julian From w3c-dist-auth-request@frink.w3.org Tue Aug 23 16:30:22 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1E7fPa-0006Yx-MC for webdav-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Tue, 23 Aug 2005 16:30:22 -0400 Received: from frink.w3.org (frink.w3.org [128.30.52.16]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id QAA09130 for ; Tue, 23 Aug 2005 16:30:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lists by frink.w3.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1E7fOH-0003V8-NF for w3c-dist-auth-dist@listhub.w3.org; Tue, 23 Aug 2005 20:29:01 +0000 Received: from maggie.w3.org ([193.51.208.68]) by frink.w3.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1E7fOF-0003TO-C2 for w3c-dist-auth@listhub.w3.org; Tue, 23 Aug 2005 20:28:59 +0000 Received: from ietf.cse.ucsc.edu ([128.114.52.130]) by maggie.w3.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1E7fO9-0000n8-U2 for w3c-dist-auth@w3.org; Tue, 23 Aug 2005 20:29:01 +0000 Received: (from hunkim@localhost) by ietf.cse.ucsc.edu (8.12.8/8.11.4) id j7NKSnFY032194; Tue, 23 Aug 2005 13:28:49 -0700 Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2005 13:28:49 -0700 Message-Id: <200508232028.j7NKSnFY032194@ietf.cse.ucsc.edu> From: bugzilla@soe.ucsc.edu To: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org X-Bugzilla-Reason: QAContact Received-SPF: none (maggie.w3.org: domain of hunkim@ietf.cse.ucsc.edu does not designate permitted sender hosts) X-W3C-Hub-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 X-W3C-Scan-Sig: maggie.w3.org 1E7fO9-0000n8-U2 3e6af6be3da7c15570ca43d19d91a832 X-Original-To: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Subject: [Bug 86] New: DAV header definitions should use RFC3864 templates X-Archived-At: http://www.w3.org/mid/200508232028.j7NKSnFY032194@ietf.cse.ucsc.edu Resent-From: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9808 X-Loop: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Resent-Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Precedence: list List-Id: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: Resent-Message-Id: Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2005 20:29:01 +0000 http://ietf.cse.ucsc.edu:8080/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=86 Summary: DAV header definitions should use RFC3864 templates Product: WebDAV-RFC2518-bis Version: -07 Platform: Other URL: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-dist- auth/2005JulSep/0101.html OS/Version: other Status: NEW Severity: critical Priority: P2 Component: 09. HTTP Headers for Distributed Authoring AssignedTo: joe-bugzilla@cursive.net ReportedBy: julian.reschke@greenbytes.de QAContact: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Quoting Mark Nottingham: "BTW, if 2518 is undergoing revision, the HTTP header registrations should be updated (or made; I think I see a new one in there?); see RFC3864/BCP90." ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the QA contact for the bug, or are watching the QA contact. From w3c-dist-auth-request@frink.w3.org Tue Aug 23 16:53:20 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1E7flj-0007sX-LE for webdav-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Tue, 23 Aug 2005 16:53:20 -0400 Received: from frink.w3.org (frink.w3.org [128.30.52.16]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id QAA11012 for ; Tue, 23 Aug 2005 16:53:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lists by frink.w3.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1E7fkz-0001i5-9C for w3c-dist-auth-dist@listhub.w3.org; Tue, 23 Aug 2005 20:52:29 +0000 Received: from maggie.w3.org ([193.51.208.68]) by frink.w3.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1E7fku-0001hA-F4 for w3c-dist-auth@listhub.w3.org; Tue, 23 Aug 2005 20:52:24 +0000 Received: from gate.arc.nasa.gov ([128.102.102.51]) by maggie.w3.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1E7fko-0004tO-Vn for w3c-dist-auth@w3.org; Tue, 23 Aug 2005 20:52:26 +0000 Received: from [143.232.66.47] (elias.arc.nasa.gov [143.232.66.47]) by gate.arc.nasa.gov ( -- Info omitted by ASANI Solutions, LLC.) with ESMTP id j7NKoid12715 for ; Tue, 23 Aug 2005 13:50:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <430B8C7A.1000709@cse.ucsc.edu> Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2005 13:52:10 -0700 From: Elias Sinderson Reply-To: WebDav User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: WebDav References: <43096225.2030902@gmx.de> In-Reply-To: <43096225.2030902@gmx.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received-SPF: none (maggie.w3.org: domain of elias@cse.ucsc.edu does not designate permitted sender hosts) X-W3C-Hub-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 X-W3C-Scan-Sig: maggie.w3.org 1E7fko-0004tO-Vn a4d895a40fe892245d1d718742d90c01 X-Original-To: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Subject: Re: RFC2518bis (process) X-Archived-At: http://www.w3.org/mid/430B8C7A.1000709@cse.ucsc.edu Resent-From: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9809 X-Loop: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Resent-Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Precedence: list List-Id: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: Resent-Message-Id: Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2005 20:52:29 +0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Julian Reschke wrote: > [...] So can we please consider the union of > and > > as current issues list? I would think this to be a reasonable starting point for the upcoming efforts. Re: Bugzilla, are we intending to continue tracking issues on the bugzilla installation? I would be in favor of this for a number of reasons that I'll skip over here. (I'll happily enumerate them if asked, but one should think they them to be rather self-evident and well understood.) Assuming all are in favor of this approach, someone will need to take on the task of importing the issues listed on the webdav.org site into bugzilla. . . For historical and other reasons it would be desireable to import all of the issues listed, although a certain amount of pragmatism would dictate that closed issues could be safely omitted. At the very least, an email should be sent to the mailing list with a summary of the already closed issues as detailed within the webdav.org list. Following the import into bugzilla, it would seem straightforward to go through them one-by-one in seperate threads. Cheers, Elias From w3c-dist-auth-request@frink.w3.org Wed Aug 24 06:59:32 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1E7syi-0000by-0u for webdav-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Wed, 24 Aug 2005 06:59:32 -0400 Received: from frink.w3.org (frink.w3.org [128.30.52.16]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id GAA12732 for ; Wed, 24 Aug 2005 06:59:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lists by frink.w3.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1E7sw1-0000R0-4G for w3c-dist-auth-dist@listhub.w3.org; Wed, 24 Aug 2005 10:56:45 +0000 Received: from lisa.w3.org ([128.30.52.41]) by frink.w3.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1E7svx-0000QM-4S for w3c-dist-auth@listhub.w3.org; Wed, 24 Aug 2005 10:56:41 +0000 Received: from imap.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20] helo=mail.gmx.net) by lisa.w3.org with smtp (Exim 4.50) id 1E7svr-0001Gp-3N for w3c-dist-auth@w3.org; Wed, 24 Aug 2005 10:56:40 +0000 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 24 Aug 2005 10:56:32 -0000 Received: from pd95b7d02.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO [192.168.1.40]) [217.91.125.2] by mail.gmx.net (mp012) with SMTP; 24 Aug 2005 12:56:32 +0200 X-Authenticated: #1915285 Message-ID: <430C525D.60303@gmx.de> Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 12:56:29 +0200 From: Julian Reschke User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Julian Reschke CC: Mark Nottingham , jfeise@ics.uci.edu, w3c-dist-auth@w3.org, Cullen Jennings References: <52BBE3D3-210D-4F8E-885F-6A2F4657BC48@mnot.net> <430A4A23.9040505@ics.uci.edu> <72FF9747-BA19-4725-BE4F-FA54A3DF98BE@mnot.net> <430B5E20.5000104@gmx.de> In-Reply-To: <430B5E20.5000104@gmx.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Received-SPF: pass (lisa.w3.org: domain of julian.reschke@gmx.de designates 213.165.64.20 as permitted sender) X-W3C-Hub-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 X-W3C-Scan-Sig: lisa.w3.org 1E7svr-0001Gp-3N 91e009041a226c5bfc3366fbef009f99 X-Original-To: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Subject: Re: extend production X-Archived-At: http://www.w3.org/mid/430C525D.60303@gmx.de Resent-From: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9810 X-Loop: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Resent-Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Precedence: list List-Id: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: Resent-Message-Id: Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 10:56:45 +0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Julian Reschke wrote: > > Mark Nottingham wrote: > >> >> Thanks to both you and Jim; that's what I needed. >> >> BTW, if 2518 is undergoing revision, the HTTP header registrations >> should be updated (or made; I think I see a new one in there?); see >> RFC3864/BCP90. > > > As a matter of fact, this also applies to BIND and REDIRECT. Cullen, > should I do that for BIND right away (I don't think we'll need another > WGLC for that...). Speaking of BIND: this draft only contains an update for the "DAV" header (). Furthermore, RFC2518bis is expected to duplicate this extension. Thus it seems to me that we don't need to add any templates here. The situation for REDIRECT is different; it introduces two new headers; thus I'll update the draft accordingly. Best regards, Julian From w3c-dist-auth-request@frink.w3.org Thu Aug 25 01:57:37 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1E8Ak2-0008Jy-6T for webdav-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Thu, 25 Aug 2005 01:57:36 -0400 Received: from frink.w3.org (frink.w3.org [128.30.52.16]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id BAA17303 for ; Thu, 25 Aug 2005 01:57:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lists by frink.w3.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1E8Ahq-0004s9-DR for w3c-dist-auth-dist@listhub.w3.org; Thu, 25 Aug 2005 05:55:18 +0000 Received: from maggie.w3.org ([193.51.208.68]) by frink.w3.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1E8Ahm-0004rY-At for w3c-dist-auth@listhub.w3.org; Thu, 25 Aug 2005 05:55:14 +0000 Received: from [61.95.192.42] (helo=kaveri.icope.com) by maggie.w3.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1E8Ahk-0008JV-BD for w3c-dist-auth@w3.org; Thu, 25 Aug 2005 05:55:16 +0000 Message-ID: <00b601c5a93a$3a9f6890$1e02000a@icope.com> From: "Melbin Mathew" To: Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 11:29:57 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00B3_01C5A968.527FB040" Received-SPF: none (maggie.w3.org: domain of mmathew@icope.com does not designate permitted sender hosts) X-W3C-Hub-Spam-Status: No, score=1.6 X-W3C-Scan-Sig: maggie.w3.org 1E8Ahk-0008JV-BD 9ca19c1aae5ecac5c4049fffd4d02314 X-Original-To: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Subject: WebDAV X-Archived-At: http://www.w3.org/mid/00b601c5a93a$3a9f6890$1e02000a@icope.com Resent-From: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9811 X-Loop: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Resent-Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Precedence: list List-Id: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: Resent-Message-Id: Resent-Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 05:55:18 +0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00B3_01C5A968.527FB040 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 The problem is there are 40,000 mailboxes and 40,000 users. In this case = there is an application which will be sending some particular messages = to the Exchange server and using the mail client the users can = read/delete those messages. That time i should get the notification that = the message is read/deleted. I can't do anything with the application = that is sending those messages.=20 For this i tried to use MAPI where there is a limitation of 255 = mailboxes is there. Then store wide events (OnSyncDelete) where no read = notification is there. Then i think WebDAV notifications also won't work = because that also have a limitation of 256 mailboxes in exchange server = 2000.=20 I want to use my application in both exchange server 2000 and 2003 = in windows 2000 platform. Now I am trying to do the auditing for getting the read/delete = events. I did it using the webdav PROPPATCH method. I got the Ok = response but not getting any events in the security log. I am sending = the XML request which i am sending for this. Please give me a sloution. bstr_t sReq; bstr_t sNewVal=3D"audit_always"; //audit_on_failure //audit_on_success sReq =3D ""; sReq =3D sReq + "";=20 =20 sReq =3D sReq + ""; sReq =3D sReq + ""; sReq =3D sReq + "" + sNewVal + ""; sReq =3D sReq + ""; sReq =3D sReq + ""; ------=_NextPart_000_00B3_01C5A968.527FB040 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

The problem is there are 40,000 mailboxes and 40,000 users. In this = case=20 there is an application which will be sending some particular messages = to the=20 Exchange server and using the mail client the users can read/delete = those=20 messages. That time i should get the notification that the message is=20 read/deleted. I can't do anything with the application that is sending = those=20 messages.

For this i tried to use MAPI where there is = a=20 limitation of 255 mailboxes is there. Then store wide events = (OnSyncDelete)=20 where no read notification is there. Then i think WebDAV notifications = also=20 won't work because that also have a limitation of 256 mailboxes in = exchange=20 server 2000.

I want to use my application in both exchange = server 2000=20 and 2003 in windows 2000 platform.

Now I am trying to do the auditing for getting the = read/delete=20 events. I did it using the webdav PROPPATCH method. I got the Ok = response but=20 not getting any events in the security log. I am sending the XML request = which i=20 am sending for this. Please give me a sloution.

bstr_t sReq;
bstr_t sNewVal=3D"audit_always"; //audit_on_failure=20 //audit_on_success

sReq =3D "<?xml = version=3D'1.0'?>";

sReq =3D sReq + "<a:propertyupdate xmlns:a=3D'DAV:'=20 xmlns:o=3D'urn:schemas:httpmail:inbox'>";
&= nbsp;
sReq=20 =3D sReq + "<a:set><a:prop>";

sReq =3D sReq + "<b:security_descriptor = xmlns:b=3D=20 'http://schemas.microsoft.com/security/'>";

sReq =3D sReq + "<o:sacl>" + = sNewVal +=20 "</o:sacl>";

sReq =3D sReq + = "</b:security_descriptor=20 >";

sReq =3D sReq +=20 "</a:prop></a:set></a:propertyupdate>";

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